Who is Lauren DeLaguna? Gossip & Tea: The 411 of The Content Creator Social Circle ‪@LaurenDeLaguna‬

[Music] let's get started on figuring out who exactly Lauren is I know most of the viewers probably are familiar with you but yeah probably not all of them so I want to make sure we introduce you properly so give us a little roundabout details of who you are what what brought you to YouTube where'd you come from yeah okay well my YouTube origin story is a little bit weird um I am from California I was in law school when I'm when I met this atrocious attorney who I really didn't like she was the district attorney for um for the area in which my law school sat hey there um and she was terrible and so I looked for information about her online and the only information I found was this one journalist named turtleboy who was kind of covering how corrupt she was and so I reached out to turtle boy we quickly became friends I came I watched him uh represent himself Pro say at a couple of cases it was really intered and then um yeah from there I started my YouTube channel like interviewing him and interviewing my ex-boyfriend Martin and then interviewing someone who I thought who I had like a connection with between turtle boy and this other crazy lady who start because after I started going on Turtle boy this crazy lady named masshole Mafia her name's Kate Peter uh started like yeah yeah uh she started like viciously attacking me on her YouTube channel so I was like I'm just going to make my own YouTube channel and give people the benefit of the doubt and she also viciously attacked this guy named Chile dcastro so my first interview ever was with Chile decastro who is crazy he is but I don't think that he should have got nearly as much hate as Kate G him so oh fair enough that's how I started my YouTube career though was just like oh I I see people get shamed online for existing I might as well create a space where uh anyone can talk so I never ban anyone from chat I never uh I let anyone who wants to come on my my channel have the opportunity to speak and it became like this free speech place on YouTube yeah you know I I feel like I I uh run in that same wheelhouse I'm I'm pretty fair as far as leaving the chat to itself um you know I only block people if they're like if they can't move on be there are just a certain few people blocked and they keep coming in with uh other other uh alt accounts and so on and so forth but when they come in and they have the same thing to say every time it gets old after a while and when they are completely downright disrespectful to you as a host and and you know when you try to show an olive branch and things like and they're just even more disrespectful you know then it's like okay well I'm done with you like I'm just I'm over it I don't even want you in my in my world or in my area uh you know so you have to choose your toxicity levels per se uh but overall I chose highly toxic I chose those toxic I'm like I have no uh moderators I have uh I don't block I so it gets it gets bad it gets bad fast but you know whatever fre spe if it floats your boat I mean I'm I'm a big fan of Free Speech but then you know I I have a tolerance level for the toxicity too so uh I overall again I have my wrenches they know kind of where I stand on that we can leave the bulk of commentary in there as long as we're not uh being completely disrespectful or grotesque or saying things that are perverted in a you know to uh standards um but outside of that I kind of don't super unfair that to I learned after so I told people you know this is how I run my channel I don't block people and they're like well don't you care about TOs and I'm like well I'm not breaking to other people in my chat are they're like yeah that's still you violating to like it still hurts your channel when other people say nasty stuff in your chat it's kind of ludicrous I mean it's not I think that's very you can't prevent I mean I guess you could get you could try to block anyone before as they keep saying nasty things but I it's not my actions that are causing anything if anything the P if you're violating TOS in the comment section it should be your channel that like you should I don't know if YouTube wants to block you from speaking that's fine but they shouldn't punish the creators I think that's silly I agree with that as well uh but I also still want people to feel welcome here so if people are saying things that are like racist or or um you know kind of a little just too much per se uh I think that we still need to keep them within the bounds of respecting one one one another and I don't mind the free speech I don't mind them tearing each other up in the chats or on the panels but as long as we're keeping it within reasonable standards uh then it's you know it's kind of like a fair game but I don't want people to be I don't want people to feel scared to participate on panels I don't want people to feels scared to participate in the chat you know but you know my wrenches I feel like they understand a bulk of that um you know they they they get it um but you know let them let them let them each other alive for all I care again comes back to if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen you know so it it is what it is and I'll let them I'll let them do their thing but yeah uh so after you first stepped into uh YouTube and started creating content what made you want to stay and what made you want to participate in the manosphere of all places yeah yeah no that's actually so I was just doing interviews and uh I stayed because I had a delay in my licensing to be an attorney so I was like what else can I possibly do with my time other than kill it and YouTube is like such a great time killer so I stayed on YouTube to kill time while waiting for my license and then um I got into the isphere because my friend was like hey have you heard of this show called The whatever podcast and I was like No And he was like oh it's really popular you should try to get on it and then I just messaged and pretty much if you have you could get on the whatever podcast it's like the easiest show to get on so I reached out and they put me on and then I you know I kind of got big from there and then um after whatever podcast um I was asked to be on fresh and fit and then while I was on fresh and fit Destiny reached out to me and asked me well actually I reached out to Destiny and then he asked me to come because we had like a debate about my ex-boyfriend and after that debate um he asked me to come on his show and so I did that and so I kind of got wrapped up into the manosphere on that end and then I became friends with Amy Dangerfield and she was like my best friend and then I moved in with p and so I was like my entire life started being integrated with manosphere people and it's so like okay whatever but yeah if you could do it all over again would you go into a different Community instead or would you still go the manosphere route I probably would go like if okay in a vacuum I would probably go a different route but because of the manosphere I met so many amazing people like if I hadn't gone into the manosphere I would have never met pixie I would have never met Amy I would have never met like the majority of my friends that I'm currently hanging out with that are just unbelievably wonderful people so it's in that in that sense I'm very happy that I went manosphere route but it is getting a little bit um I don't think it's like very it's a lot of the same conversation repetitively yeah and then it's also a little bit lower I like I kind of like more legal discussions really like the law the law side of YouTube like uh law talk with Mike or uh looking at legal stuff or which is literally just reviewing court cases all they do is watch court cases and review them and I think yeah yeah and I think that's a little bit more my speed fair enough I can respect that too because it you know especially if you're coming from law school and and and obviously that's something that you enjoy right um I think that having more it's hard to say intelligent conversations without sounding insulting to those other conversations but more intelligent conversations about more important things and things that can actually you know have a cause and effect and um you know Place steak in society's downturn or upturn you know so I can understand and respect that uh quick shout out to the chat I know it's starting to build up holy cow there's 42 of you in here tonight so I figure why not I'm going to go ahead and pop my bottle I see Lauren is already sipping on a wine what kind of wine do you have tonight I have my roommates wine it's delicious I asked my roommate as I walked in the door do you have any wine she's like yeah and hold on I'm supposed to show up with a drink what am I doing um so shout out to the chat I see we also have uh lfas in the house crack lacken cougs Johnson just a guy sieg D Doug the thug Fist and no Doug I was not drunk when I made you a wrench I decided uh the other day when I saw you in the chat that I said you know for somebody who's so loyal and always shows up you're the one that I want on my team so congrat ations you are now wrench don't abuse it along with every other wrench in my chat there we go um party hats on folks satisfying pop oh it is I love the pop uh who else do we have silently oh yeah I could I have I've gotten very good at controlling the pop of the you know cork because I don't want to waste any so you know they're they reason behind that is pretty epic not because like safety not because like just keeping things easy but because I don't want to spill a drop okay this I don't want if you do it wrong it's gonna all come flying out you're gonna lose some and and that I'm not a big fan of and I also have this huge huge fear of popping a bottle and it ending up uh the cork ends up in a light bulb or a you know some type of glass in the house you know and breaking it so that's another thing I don't want to see happen oh yeah and Mom thank you for the Christmas glasses um so obviously they're being used that's your Christmas gift to me that I've been using uh just another quick shout out we've got Don Juan as well uh great pill podcast Chad gentlemen uh we've got tar in the house I think he's here just for you Lauren I I think he's here just for you we've got Chris Hill uh who is Templar where do you come from I remember seeing your name before but I don't know where I've seen you before D Forest definitely some vinyl community in the house definitely some manosphere we've got Uncle guns I saw Vega a minute ago Stone balls I love that name uh but shout out to the chat and everybody showing up again we're over 40 this is impressive um especially for the start of a show I love you all and this is why so we we're here for you you uh so Lauren back to you uh I wanted to know uh so obviously the YouTube kind of happened by happen stance but I don't think your law degree and you know wanting to become a lawyer happened by accident so what made you want to go into law oh gez well um I had a math so in college I really didn't know what I wanted to do uh I was studying engineering at first when I was in the Air Force and because I was like because I thought I was going to be in the Air Force for the next 20 years obviously that didn't happen um so I started engineering because I that was like really helpful to the Air Force to have Engineers um and then I had this one math teacher just convinced me like you're good at math you're I like I really want to be your Mentor throughout this like and I want to like help you on the math route and so I switched my Majors to math and then uh and then I transferred school so I don't even have that Mentor anymore but after I transferred schools I was like I don't want to give up my math major and I really enjoyed that but then when I graduated or was actually right before I graduated I had a couple professors come up to me and they're like hey what are your plans after graduation I'm assuming you want to go to Grad School for Math and I was like the [ __ ] no where did you get that idea and they were like no really you should do grad school and I'm like um I have no desire to do grad school for math and they're like well then what you want to do and I and that was when I realized it like what can you even do with a math degree other than teach you unless you want to get a PhD there's really nothing you could do with a math degree other than be a teacher and so um I was teaching for a little bit after college and I really didn't enjoy working with children like I love working with kids but not constantly like I like having adult interactions as well and so um um I was like okay teaching is not for me so I'll try a new job so I started working as a law clerk like a paralal and I really enjoyed it and then Co hit and I was like [ __ ] like um what am I going to do with the whole world's ending and I'm just cooped up in my room and I was like I was so scared I was so scared when covid first happened I was like petrified so I was like I might as well live I might as well like try to do everything I wanted to accomplish in life so I started applying to law schools I didn't even finish my law school application when the school reached out to me and told me I was they were going to admit me and not only were they going to admit me they were going to put me on the two-year track and not only were they going to put me on the two-year track they were going to give me a 50% scholarship and uh because I was previously in the Air Force I hadn't used I my my grandma and grandpa said a little money aside for me to go to college but I didn't use I didn't touch any of that and so I had just enough money to get me through law school without going into debt and with this 50% scholarship so I was like okay I'll go to law school for free it only will take two years why not so um I did that and then I was like because it was just free and easy and I was already kind of in the legal field and so um that's what got me into law and I went to the same law easy yeah at the end of the day the entire synopsis is it was free and easy guys [Laughter] so like what else was I doing with my time anyway like sitting I could sit on or I could get like a JD and I was like okay fine I'll just get a JD why not why not um and so that's what I did and I'm and yeah that's that's fair we are it only took two years it was like the quickest thing it's like the quickest thing ever yeah especially during and it's funny that you say that because I originally wanted to be in uh like architecture or some type of um engineering field of some sort definitely needed the math and and I remember one of my friends is a uh mechanic IAL engineer and he's like Sarah you're seriously you're going to sit around play with pipul all day and it's the thing a pipul right and he's like you're going to sit around playing with pipul lators all day you're gonna sit behind a desk it's gonna be really boring you're not GNA like it I'm telling you I know you you're not gonna like it and then finally I I think I ended up in a law class uh it was pretty early on um I forget which one it was but it ended up being kind of like taking it as an elective to fulfill another credit of some sort and I remember I took the class and I was like wow I really like this um and then you know later went on for my jurist prudence and then my uh my ma is legal and ethical studies the only thing I didn't do because I was in the Air Force to the only thing I didn't do like you was actually go to law school because I mean I debated like even just a PhD for government and public policy but I was like H I'm done I'm done so kudos to you you for continuing on and and finishing that out what would you say your favorite uh uh like specialty or study you know would be like contract family dead people my favorite study like what I really enjoyed studying in law school was probably evidence and uh contracts but my what but what I like to do in practice is uh criminal law so which involves evidence obviously you need like you need to understand evidence to do criminal law but uh contracts isn't a huge part of criminal law like at all like it barely touches it and then also I if you were like under the like the white collar crimes you know where people are like uh screwing people over financially then contracts would probably come into place where the fine print is important uh but that would be the only scenario I could think of where there is a victim and it's considered criminal yeah yes even then usually it ends up being like a civil issue if it's some sort of like violation of the contract but there are absolutely white color crimes um I would know because of my ex so uh yeah but I that wasn't because of contractual issues um yeah and then also throughout law school I I had so many friends have an interest in family oh I love nyel um I had so many friends have an interest in family law and I was like I don't get that interest it's so boring and then and it was a required class so I took the required class I found the class boring everything about it it was just like G this is so boring but now when I watch YouTube the majority of the time I'm watching Family Court hearings because they're fascinating because what's so fascinating about them is a good portion of the time the people are uh representing themselves they don't hire attorneys yeah and it becomes a show real [ __ ] fast and it's it's very interesting to watch thank thank you the only good thing that came out of Co or Zoom Court hearings because now you can watch them on YouTube oh yeah and they contined doing Zoom court so after Co yeah is that even allowed I thought Family Court hearings uh especially if there were children involved were locked down as far as uh to the public really I had go very open wow I mean I know mine was closed off uh like Family Court as in in what would be an example like divorce for custody divorce uh yeah like any it's so interesting there's very few things that are I even saw one case where the where one of the parents did have an attorney and the attorney asked can we take this off Zoom my client wants this off Zoom she does or she at least if we could have it it wasn't that they want it off Zoom they want it off YouTube um and the judge was like this this is because we're doing it via zoom and it's open courts we are required we are required to have this on YouTube and it's crazy there's this one channel called looking at legal stuff and all she does is she takes a bunch of court cases and she like she gets every single hearing for a bunch of for like the same person they'll have like multiple hearings and she watches one and then she gets the update and she and she puts them all together and uh it's really fascinating it's just it's kind of crazy that it's just all out there in the public it's so that's so nuts I mean I like I mean when I did some of my credits we had to go and sit through court court cases look I already can't talk um and we because of that you know you're in the courthouse moping around looking for different stuff but I remember walking in on a family court hearing just cuz you're beeping around the the the courthouse like you're allowed to do that and you're like to poke in at one door and Pok in another and I remember walking in one now it might be be I think that one was a juvenile actually so I did get booted from that but I feel like it had I got to think it through but I remember there was a juvenile involved in it but um I got booted from that one I didn't you know the judges were really nice I I did like that but so all all the things that are on YouTube as soon as they're about to bring a juvenile in court they take it off YouTube and then it becomes a Clos ask every so uh my dog hold on give me one second my dog all take your time shout out to the chat tonight you guys are all on fire while she's tending to her little doggy uh I love you all I'm glad you're all here oh yeah no worries yes so um the yeah so if as soon as a juvenile comes on it's a it's closed but uh if it's an open court then they keep it on YouTube the judges have their own YouTube channel they put it on YouTube and it's actually kind of wild to watch yeah wow I gotta go check is that all still a thing right now or like are they all still on YouTube what's crazy is after Co a lot of cour houses were trying to require judges okay CO's over time to go back to in-person hearings and a lot of judges are like I'll quit if you make me go in person and again on quit in fact entire there were entire cour houses where every single judge said yeah if you try to make me come in all quit and so they're just continuing Zoom it's just zoom hearings are now just like a permanency as as of right now and so it's crazy this it's like all open and you could just watch these people and yeah so family law is really crazy when you watch all of the pros say litigant and just uh trying to represent themselves and they don't know how to ask questions and they're screaming at each other and they're interrupting each other and they're calling each other and I guess you could still hit you could still hit the you button if I were a judge if I were a judge here's what I would here's what I would have to shut people up all I had to do to have you was sign of for2 of your cuz I want so see exactly you're doing exactly what everybody does when I play it it's so cute and funny and it's you can't go wrong with it and it just it shuts people up you know and then it gives everybody like 20 seconds to go and uh you know wind down for a second find your find your find your inner piece oh I like totally went out there we go um yes exactly but it it just kind of calms everything down so if I were a judge that's what I would have is like hold on for just a moment let's play this um so gosh I wonder because I know for my divorce our pre-trial um like for all the scheduling and stuff and and figuring out like mediation making sure we have all the boxes checked that that was a zoom call is that going to be on YouTube Somewhere or probably already is it probably already is on YouTube but um but people if it's not interesting people aren't going to blast it and what's really funny is some of these prate litigants are like legitimately back crazy so every once in a while you'll have like three hearings and at the fourth hearing the litigant will go hey people are making fun of me on YouTube um that's not okay and and then they add that to the YouTube series and it's just a whole mess it's a mess in a half quite wild yeah some of these PES blow up and go viral viral here's where I question it because essentially like if I were B bopping around a courthouse and went and sat in on any court case I couldn't just whip my phone out and start recording right no so it's not something that I could oops not something I could publicly take away with with me and go and blast it on YouTube so I question the idea of uh the courts doing this and opening it up to YouTube you know is it is it uh is does it still sit there you know like the idea is that you could always be B you could always be poop around you you could always be pop around the court so just like this you could always just be pop around I don't know if they keep the videos or if it's just live stream to YouTube that I don't know that's my question yeah that I don't know if it's just live but see anybody can anybody with a like me when I'm watching somebody who I know like Andrew Wilson for instance I know he has a habit of tucking away his Stream So if he says something I'm like oh I need that I need that right now and it's ly cring all right the floors are you andw Wilson fan I'm I'm a fan of everybody I I don't hate anybody I love everybody for all their craziness because we're all crazy no damn it I went out again there we go we're all crazy yeah just like like Kraken says I love crazy and to me everybody in the manosphere or anybody that's willing to get on YouTube and talk to a bunch of other crazy people we're all crazy so I'm not uh I don't I wouldn't say I'm in anybody's pocket I wouldn't say I owe any type of uh homage to anybody I'm not like BFFs with anybody am I respectful to all absolutely will I talk a little and have some fun of course but I don't uh I don't take sides on any side for instance so I would love to hear your take on you see that oh okay well I had a debate with him and it was in good faith and everything was fine after um and then thank you Barry and then um we were friends and we were talking in the like we were dming each other over Twitter and just like talking like friends uh and then his wife said something stupid so I challenged her to a debate and then he was the middleman she refused to speak to me like so he had to be the yeah she refused to DM back so he was the middleman he set up a debate between his wife and me and he was really unclear about the prompt and I tried to before the debate started I was like just to reiterate this is the prompt of the debate correct and they didn't give me a clear answer so I I don't know so then at the very end of the debate Andrew was like that you didn't even get the prompt right and I was like that's why I clarified in the beginning of the video you have this whole um moderator dude that you required that I don't give a sh your friend I let moderate which is like wildly biased and he didn't even know the prompts so this is not a me issue this is a you issue and I I also wiped the floor with his wife like just wipes the floor with her and she just looked stupid the entire street I was wearing a kind of provocative oh if you wear anything provocative you're GNA throw Rachel off to begin with let's just start there that was that was Ashley's first experience with Rachel Rachel was more concerned with uh like the fact that Ashley's boo were hanging out or whatever and and claimed she wasn't wearing a brawl or something like that so um yeah but what was so what was the debate about I know right they're just say even who's to say even what the debate was about because apparently I got the prompts wrong I thought the debate was whether or not secular marriage should be legal and they thought the debate was whether or not secular marriage was a good idea and it was like that's not really a debate topic yeah so um right and I was like okay if you don't like secular marriage then like okay whatever then fine then don't do it like I I don't know what toing tell you man but like whether or not it should be legal is a legitimate topic that we could have actual back and forth debate on and so that's what I thought the prompt was and she didn't know sh about law it's like a legal based prompts and she and it was so embarrassing because I would try to explain very very very basic legal ideas and she couldn't wrap her tiny little head around it and I explained it to her like seven times and then after the debate ended this Zen Shapiro [ __ ] like Z looks up from his solitire game for the first time and goes oh and he basically asks me the exact same thing that I already explained seven times and I'm like so you didn't even listen to the debate and then he admitted later that he was playing solitire the entire time and I was just like that's kind of insulting as the moderator you know like that's your job you had one job kind of thing yeah and then after that they like they knit picked on me because I I confused one of their [ __ ] guests for or [ __ ] fans for a different [ __ ] fan and I accused him of something that the other guy did and then they were like a defamation and that's what the entire thing became about instead of the fact that I for three hours or however long it was wiped the floor with her I made one statement about one of their fans that was inaccurate and they're like oh Lauren's a liar and it's like oh my God a so that's like you're G to you're deflect from the entire debate you're G to negate everything else that I've said all night over this one little piece but hey that is not only YouTube but that is the manosphere and that's like kind of where that wheelhouse sits you know like you could you could have all of these great streams and and have all the these wonderful amazing talking points and then you make one video or you do one thing and everybody's like oh but that one thing but uh I think it was the best thing I ever heard was something like uh people people only remember you for what you did like two days ago or something like that uh you know they get over it they move on your your fans are still here your people are still here for you and and so on and so forth uh what about Bas Oracle Lauren Siege wants to know Bas was on here the other night tearing it up for sure I don't know too much about him I don't know I just remember immediately after the Rachel the B Britney venty came out with her expose on the Wilsons did you see that yeah yeah I actually did I did a um you know roasted tomatoes episode on that expose um just because I felt like bringing the kids into it the kids aren't here with the debates the kids aren't here with the arguments they're not the ones walking around you know causing a bunch of Riff Raff or or doing anything and I think that that was kind of a low blow I like Britney venty and I like the kind of work she does and I can appreciate her satire and sarcasticness but I don't like the idea of like CU if somebody brought my kids in like that that would piss me off you know like just but she didn't mention like yeah she didn't mention like the kids' names or anything I think her point was more so like you brag about liking virgin women you you say that you want young virgin hot women and if you're not a young hot virgin you're essentially useless yet you Andrew married a woman with two prior baby daddies and then knocked her up while she was married to another guy while you were 19 and she was in her 20s and it's like it's not so much about the kids it was just about the fact that she has more baby dades is necessary that piece I didn't have a problem with giving a full layout of child one child 2 child 10 whatever you know and saying here's when they got married here's they when they had you know baby number three here's When Rachel had baby number one that part I didn't have an issue with at all it was when her and Britney venty and just tree 411 both went into the idea of uh like bringing up the the eldest daughter and her like uh Eating Disorders or you know hoing her I didn't hear about that oh yeah the whole expose that Brit did I heard the hoing out part I heard the hoing out part I didn't hear about the yeah eating disorders and um dep like I think it like a a realm of depression because of the eating disorders and then bringing up the the death of uh Andrew and Rachel's son that to me was a little messed up you know I think that like I and I don't even care if it was at fault nobody's fault somebody body's fault whatever fault that's not even God why am I going out today I'm my camera does not want to FOC you're not going out on my end like like at least I don't see that you're I can see I can see like I'm fuzzy like I'm still here but it's like it gets fuzzy um I think because it keeps trying to pick up on my my mic like the the focal point yeah the F goes to the mic and to you yeah yeah and uh no I agree like bringing up the the depth I understand the point as to why because they're trying to say like she's a bad bom not only is she you know a reckless with her coochie and letting anyone put a baby in it but also after she one of her crotch fruits comes to life she doesn't even take care of it so um I wish I could claim the term but it's not oh my God hold on I got to make hold on hold yeah but that that one I got from turtle boy oh thank you turtle boy oh shisa um I mean I just think here's how I look at it okay you're not going to hurt Andrew ra or Rachel's Feelings by bringing up stuff about their kids or you know saying that she was a baby mama who married Andrew later and he's a s because he whatever that you're not going to hurt their feelings on any of that stuff you're not even going to hurt their feelings if you start talking about their kids uh I think the death of a child that's probably going to stir some and I think that's going to stir some old emotions you know you're ripping off a Band-Aid um and and I think in any event talking about the death of a child should be out of the mouth of anybody especially if you're trying to use it as a an argument or a deployment per se of a point um but at the end of the day who is really going to be affected by that especially if the eldest daughter who they talked about the most and they they talked really poorly about her she's like what in her early 20s I think um she's an adult she can find this information she can see these videos I'm sure her friends might be watching it or or be made aware of it and that's who you're hurting you're hurting somebody else who has nothing to do with any of this and that's where I think the justification is not there you know because you're bringing is disgusting like tree of logic will will attack anyone she she's like claimed that I had herpes she's like claimed she's like claimed really disgusting things about me she just like blatantly lies about me nonstop she has like and like I would sue her if she wasn't so poor but um yeah it's not I don't want to spend $25,000 on a lawsuit yeah and I I don't want to spend $25,000 on a lawsuit to a woman who doesn't have $25,000 to take but you could take you could take all of her she gets a lot of super chats and stuff you could just own the rest of her super chats for the for she would just stop working she exctly my point Lauren oh I don't want to shut her up though cuz she's so entertaining I love making fun of her how can I make fun of her if she's not online she reminds me quite and I don't mean this as an insult because I do like this character so much it's one of my favorite characters but the Donkey from Shrek the way she laughs and her entertainment style that's just who she reminds me of and I again I don't mean that in like a derogatory hateful way you can't unsee it you cannot unsee it go ahead tell me you can't unsee it now she's like she's like the donkey but way angrier the donkey's always happy the donkey is happy she would be the angry donkey she' be the angry angry dony she's the donkey that didn't get the dragon she's the donkey we're both going down for this one Lauren you know it whatever she's already she's already gone in on me oh she used to like her favorite thing to say about me was that I was uh like sucking Alex's Wang in order to get on his speed dates and I'm like I'm sitting there laughing to myself I'm like Alex calls me last minute because I'm like the veteran speed right like he knows I'm not I don't want to come do speed dates if he needs somebody and if I know if he's calling me he's gone through the whole book okay like because I've speed dated just about everybody on there at this point that it's it's not it's not new anymore it's not fun it's like now I'm just there and annoyed and I'm like God I hope I have alcohol in the house to do this right uh but you know so that's what makes me laugh is that uh you know she's like oh yeah she's over there sucking Alex's Wang just so she can get the attention so she can go on his show and I'm like I like come on lady tree is just sitting there like why can't I get invited on everything why am I never asked to be on anyone else's show it's probably everybody else that's what it has to be it can't because funny thing anything interesting I worked it out to where she I was going like she was going to come on with uh Alex and I worked it out so because she didn't want to do the speed dating but she wanted to be on the critic critiquing side of it and so I messaged with Alex went back and forth I'm like would you be willing to host that and he's like yeah sure why not and I'm like I'll even do the speed dates if you if you need girls for it you know um and so I would like we were linking all of that up and that was going to be a thing and then she just all of a suddenly came out with like this I hate Alex video of like making fun of him and talking and just like dismantling him in every which way and then um yeah and it was like why did you you could have you know and and one of the things that she says is that she always likes to punch up to get the views and to you know like I mean we're all clout Chasers at the end of the day right but she said says I'm clout chasing and I only punch upwards like I don't punch down I punch she punched downwards to me I have a significant smaller Channel and she's literally lying about me having STDs she's lied about who I've slept with she's lied about me non stop and I only punch I guess I guess she knows that I'm better than her so I guess technically it is still punching up even though I have like barely 5K subscribers but whatever hold hold on just a second if you can just entertain the crew for just a moment I will entertain the crew I just want to thank you all for being here and I'm sorry for tree for your face and what you were born with and the way that you are um I'll read some chats if anyone wants to put some interesting chats uh yeah I talked to Lauren on Instagram you do emperor of masculinity or DVA Mar I'm actually pretty open with my Instagram DMS for for the most part um I do have like a request section and then I have like a hidden request section and I don't always check that and so sometimes I miss a lot of stuff um and also if you send me a message and it goes in my request folder and it's boring I'm definitely not going to respond but otherwise if you send me something interesting on Instagram I'm pretty quick with um replying am I single I am single but um I did just meet a guy recently and we started talking I met him through Amy and he lives in Alaska and I think I'm going to visit him soon to check out the Northern Lights which I'm really flipping excited about because I've never seen the northern lights and I've never been to Alaska not Alaska Canada it's in Canada near Alaska where did I graduate law school yeah I have like an internet boyfriend in Canada uh where did I graduate law school it's suffk University it's a law school but has a two-year program two years and they gave me a half scholarship H yeah it's pretty bad I'm pretty sure like a good portion of my classmates were clinically [ __ ] but um yeah and the pass rate for the bar from my law school is so bad like like I don't I hope it's above 50% but I don't know like like if you go to Harvard the pass rate for Harvard is like 97% like it's like everybody who goes to Harvard Law passes the bar but um the kids on my school do not do not always pass the bar no they do not really no they do not uh where did I pass the bar I passed the bar in I'm reading chat sorry I passed the bar Arizona and Florida yeah Arizona and Florida are is he flying you up or are you going to fly yourself up Lauren he is flying me up he's a fancy dude he's fancy and he's fun and he's funny too and he's like into the online stuff and so he likes my online Persona which is cool because I've dated guys in the past who've asked me to take everything down offline and I'm like oh you don't like that part of me like you don't think that's kind of fun and they're like no like I'm a private person if we're dating can you be private I had I was dating one guy once during speed date and I and I sent him like I was like oh my God I'm doing speed dating with Alex and I sent him the link and I was like you should do it you should speed dat he's like I find it inappropriate that we're dating and you're dating other guys online and I'm like if you think this is like legitimate dating and like you're jealous of the guys I'm speed dating with on that podcast right you wish you that's a problem and can I even uh I don't know I was dating somebody and and he didn't have a problem with the speed dates at all he laughed at it because you know he knew that like he was coming over you know while I was uh like finishing up on the speed dates and he would be sitting here in my basement watching me do them and laughing hysterically knowing that he's got my bottle of prco waiting for me and you know like he's the one that actually gets to spend the rest of the evening with me and we can laugh and joke about how hard's you know but I think think I think it's you know reasonable to say like we're not dating for real it's not real the girls are there we are Crash Test Dummies that's how I like to consider it um you know and we're just there to if you put it in a humanitarian aspect we're there to help we're there to give them you know practice and give content as well but we're we're there to essentially give good feedback and I think I think I go down in the record on playing with fires having some of the best feedback and the kindest and the most uh applicable um but but I think that you know we're there to essentially one we're having fun we're creating content we're exposing our names we're getting ourselves out there but the humanitary humanitarian side is we're doing our civil duty to the men of the manosphere and helping them get better at practicing talking to girls especially pretty ones such as yourself that's exactly what I that's what I told the guy I was dating we we're no longer dating but that's what I told him I was like imagine being in your 30s and having never been late don't you don't you want guys to learn how to talk to women like I've never seen anything like Alex speed dating where you get like a quick date you learn how you learn what you did wrong and then you could try again next week and that and it's repetitive like that and these guys legitimately get better and better every week if they keep going and so it's like and and then apparently they use it in real life and they eventually can get laid so like why wouldn't you want this for the betterment of humanity like I feel like the majority of hateful awful people are just PE are men who can't get laid so let's make the world a better place and get everybody laid come on exactly uh great pill to correct it I believe she was saying that she was dating a guy and she told him to come on this dates and have some fun with it or at least to watch it or something but I don't think she dated him from the speed dates I don't think that was the case but honestly if you I think it was your speed date with um oh my God what was his name I was there that night too he's so adorable what is his name he's a mathematician too do you know who I'm she oh oh uh not know you're talking about would go on a date with him again but probably more platonic I think I said what was no girl you were totally into him it was so cute and I was like please get married Johnny Kay it was Johnny Kay okay do you remember him I remember the date I remember yeah yeah he was really into math horable I just I was falling in love with love I believed in Romance again I was like this is straight out of like princess you know princess fairy tales Disney 101 with math it was adorable it was adorable yeah um oh crap where were we we were talking about um I'm I do apologize to you thank you for holding down the fort and to our viewers uh my son it is a Saturday night he doesn't have to go to bed right now but he was having an issue with his iPod and couldn't figure out his Roblox game or something was was making him quite cranky and he started crying about it so mommy had to go be mommy for a minute but all is well in in the world now because Mommy fixed it Roblox Roblox is such a does he ask for roblo all the time he does but he doesn't get them I'm like look like if it's a free game can you go earn ro ro ro bucks yes fine then go earn them but mommy's not paying for them so yeah right we don't we don't pay for games a cheap mom yeah I understand that yeah so Mama tomato yeah Mommy time yeah but thank you again for holding it down and and and talking at the chat I always appreciate that when you know it's so hard sometimes uh streaming um this is why I typically go at 9:15 at night because usually the kids are in bed by then but given its spring break it's a weekend um things like that and he's just kind of he's he's excited to be awake tonight and he you know like he understands mommy's on YouTube mommy's gonna get a million subscribers and we're gonna be millionaires and you know and it's cute like I love how he he doesn't know the content that I do obviously we don't talk about that and he doesn't get to see mommy's videos of course but um but he's just excited that mommy's on TV or you know like on you yoube as he calls it so yeah it's fun it's cute it's a whole like family Family Affair to try to you know uh get mommy to be able to stream that night you know like okay we're all getting in bed this is gonna happen it's like you know Mommy goes on in like 40 minutes we gotta go chop chop bath and bed guys let's go let's go so you know that's cute that's cute as heck I really want kids I really do yeah crotch fruits I really want my own crotch fruits never heard yeah like I just I can't say anything derogatory like I can't even I couldn't even call my kids a brat for instance like my daughter she created a chat name of Brady tomato she's only showed up in one stream and of course I kind of like shut the Stream down and shut the chat down like listen Brady tomatoes in the house for her one and only time we're going to keep this PG rated okay and everybody did I was very grateful that the chat it was a calm night so we didn't have to worry so sweet chat like Pretend We're different Pretend We're nice normal got it we got it Miss tomato but then then it was so cute because my daughter shortly after said she's like you're boring I'm like good I'm glad you like because that means I shut it down in such a way you know what I mean like because we're not in Hot Topic World we're not I didn't have the panel open yet or anything like that so it was just me monologuing and of course I had to monologue in such a way that okay brat Tomatoes is watching but inevitably I could never actually call my children derogatory names like your brat or you're a sh or you're a you know like I've heard other parents do that and I'm always like why would you call your kid a name like that I don't I don't get it so crotch fruits even more so I I still can't use that one because it's to me it's derogatory like I'll call my kid are they not the fruit are they not the fruit of your the fruit of my crotch the it's AR even derogatory how what part of this is it's just the facts every child I don't know it's the idea I don't I mean like we all know where they come yes and F trophy is what I've the best the best term I've ever heard them called is trophy right um but I still obviously if I'm not willing to call them brats like I obviously can't call them trophies um but yeah it's to to me oh you're calling them a trophy they're a trophy that you got you got a being and now everyone displaying your child every time you introduce your child to someone you're basically telling someone hey at some point in my life I got that's all you're doing so just remember every single time you introduce any of your kids to any one that's what you're telling the world no I'm just kidding oh I had to regain my uh no she's not ghost watching Vega I'm I'm well aware of this I know where she's at and what she's doing right now and the last thing she's going to be doing is watching me I don't even think she subscribed uh she according to her I'm really boring you know so I'll leave it to that as long as she thinks I'm boring and not watchable she'll never watch so and I don't have to worry about her friends watch watching too um you know cuz I mean they all love me I'm Miss Sarah I'm the cool Mom I'm the fun Mom I'm the one that you know they all enjoy when I get to be the one that takes them to the mall or takes them to dinner you know they stay the night over here because I'm the fun mom the cool mom you know I'm also the youngest mom of them all so um the rest of their moms are all in their uh like mid-40s and I'm not saying that's old but I'm in my mid-30s so uh there is a difference you know and I do say if you can have your kids while you're still in your early 20s go for it because I got all the the chasing toddlers out of the way early on and now my back hurts so I would never like that would be a really hard one to do now so yeah oh man I too late for me I have been uh wasting my time I guess but uh I yeah I'd love to have kids the problem is like I I really want to find a good guy that I could have kids with and those those are way harder to find so um a guy I guess I could just yeah yeah it's hard to find like a a guy because like when I'm dating these days the the number one thing I'm thinking of when I'm dating someone is like would this make a good Future Part like parent would this be a person that I would want to parent with and worst case scenario if we were to split is someone I could co-parent with and um the guys that I date these days some of them like are are very legitimate but then like we're just not compatible for whatever reason and then other ones are just not there not at that level so it's just hard yeah you know one thing one what are you like 25 I'm 30 oh okay so we've hit the wall together it's fine no big deal um so one thing that a lot of people or the best advice I was ever given is you're never prepared to be a parent no matter how much you always say like oh I want to make sure I have money in the bank I want to make sure I'm you know married and have this prepared and that prepared and that prepared prepare prepar prepare prepare prepare you're never prepared and I can tell you right off the bat I was 22 when I had my daughter I was a baby myself and actually it was so cute because she was looking at a lot of the pictures of uh her like the day she was born recently and she was she was cracking up and she's like Mom what do you what are you sure you weren't 16 because I did I I mean I actually I got I got mistaken for a high schooler the other day when I went to her school cuz I had to like drop off her sports gear cuz she needed it last minute XYZ and they just open the door and they're like hey come you know come on in and usually you have to like go through all of these other things to get in the door as a parent and they just let me in and then the lady as soon as like after she let me in she stopped for a second she's like wait a minute are you a mom like you're not a student here and I was like no I'm definitely a mom like my daughter you know goes here and she's like oh my God but of course I had a backpack on with like her Sports gearing out of it and you know I fit the roll um but but inevitably like that's not the first and I don't think it'll be the last time I get mistaken for as a high schooler uh but my daughter was going through and laughing at all these pictures saying how young I looked and and I I in the the midst of that was looking back and thinking like how young I felt a baby having a baby and I kept thinking you know in that moment of like what am I going to do how am I going to do this like you know I'm going to be a single mom and like all of this like all of this just flood works of craziness go through your head um but we made it and here we are and I wasn't prepared for sh and I didn't know if I was going to co-parent with this guy I didn't know how things were going to work out I mean we get along we make things work you know it's always like that you know comes down to the best interest of her for the most part um but that's great that's really great I mean I know not everybody can sing that song I'm aware of that but I think at the end of the day the more you try to think about it and overthink it the harder it's going to be on you mentally you know try because once I just accepted it and just was like you know what it is what it is let's go with what we have make the best you know we're making lemonade out of lemons kind of factor uh the minute I did that that's when it kind of like everything smoothed itself it smoothed itself out and I'm like an expert mom at this m moment you know yeah yeah yeah but I mean inevitably if you're trying to find a guy to be with you know think more of what where where your principles and values sit and what's important to you don't worry about the future stuff that will all fall in line as it comes along if he matches your principles matches your values you're on the same moral ground and you believe in a lot of the same Concepts the rest will fall into place don't don't overthink it there looking for for for a while I started only dating guys who were like really conservative and like modest and D D D D but the problem is they like even though we have the same values um they're a little boring in terms of like and they want me to be boring with them and I don't want to change who I am I like who I am but um so I don't know I I'm excited to try to date I have that date in Alaska or whatever or I keep saying Alaska Canada or whatever and he seems a little bit more he's conservative but he's really weird like super weird like but so are you Lauren in a good way exactly so and I and he's weird in a good way too and so I think that then also we have a lot of the same like values in terms of like caring for others and being nice and yada yada so I think that's more my I'm going to try to shift up the types of guys I'm I was dating these like super straight laced conservative go to church every Sunday super like probably has a body count of two you know guys and and it was on accident he slipped and fell into that one it was Pur right right uh so I don't know I don't think I want to be doing that anymore I think I want to be dating more just like fond outgoing guys who also have um similar values they don't have to be like so straight Lac though yeah yeah we don't have to restrict ourselves from fun just because our belief system like we can still go out and enjoy life and do fun things but we don't need to sit around and read a book all day just because you know we want to avoid sin right um yeah I get it well I can tell you right now there's a whole Chat full of eligible bachelors um I'm willing to bet they would all come on and speed date you and try their try their hand at you at some point this evening when we open up the panel and to the chat I will open up the panel here in a little bit but if you don't mind I'm in enjoying having Lauren all to myself right now um I know she's a beautiful young lady I know you all can't wait to be able to talk to her and and you know shoot your shot with her even just being on panel but she's all mine for now I'll I'll open it up here in just a little bit but I'm enjoying getting to know her and and understanding who she is and bringing I'm bringing Lauren to the table folks that's what I'm bringing to the table there you go um actually I wanted good good I'm glad actually I was gonna say our um my first true introduction to you was your little hos with Ashley do you remember that I do she's now one of my favorite fans and that's how most people start with Ashley and that's what I love about her is that most people start off as like no you know and then once they actually sit and get to know her and then they get to understand her and realize that she has a lot of great talking points and she can make a lot of good sense um and that she's willing and and and open to having discussions greater than just her own ego um you know once they get to understand those things oh there's Papa tomato the grumpy tomato hi Dad love you I'm glad you missed I'm glad glad you missed whatever was prior to this cuz we were talking about the crotch fruits and it was comical but I don't know if you'd like that one but anyways um you're his crotch fruit well kind of you're more Tomatoe crotch fruit what would you call it for a dad then aside from the the F trophies old people Rock yes they do yeah I don't know we'll have to think of a better one for men we'll have to we got a like a what would you call the spawn you got to it's got to be the spawn of something the spawn of Victory I I don't know you know what's weird about men though I I kind of feel this is kind of a random talking point but I kind of feel like all babies should be DNA tested at Birth to make sure that they're d is truly their daddy that I just feel like I know for my dad uh my brothers and I like putting us all three of us next to each other and putting us next to our father there's 100% there's there was no testing required to to determine that one we all look alike we all have the same manorisms we're all dorks just the same uh we all do goofy things um but I think I you know I leave that up to the dad I I I don't think there should be like a mandate because the government you know the government has already kind of like honed in on enough right like like they do have their limitations of privacy right and and actually we are limited we we do have the right to privacy um you know this is why uh uh why gay marriage or even like uh like what you do behind the closed doors that that was an actual what Supreme Court ruling right is like basically what you do Behind Closed anybody else yes but that's that's a because roie Wade was overturned if that gets questioned again and they it's very likely that that would be a returned as well so hes be Overfelt is what you're talking about and there's other yeah and there's another case that I always always blank the name I always mess up the name but there's another one as well that rely on the idea that privacy is like within the penumbra of the Amendments even though which is like a it's the first time that legal concept has been used so typically uh what the Supreme Court is doing is looking at the Constitution and amendments to the Constitution to determine whether or not something is lawful or constitutional and what the Supreme Court did for privacy is they looked at a bunch of amendments and they were like hey there's not a specific amendment that says you have a right to privacy but based on these other amendments you could kind of read in the shadows of it that the constitution wants us to have a right to privacy but now that's kind of been overruled with the overruling of roie Wade so it's going to be interesting to see how we progress whether or not gay marriage gets overturned or whether or not liberals uh get it codified as a amendment to the Constitution or so there needs to be something in the future so it should be really interesting to see uh as for like government involvement yeah I don't like more government involvement and that would be an absolute uh requirement for the automatic DNA testing something like getting more government involved in our lives which is not good but simultaneously it is a lot to act like to have the dad have to go through the D DNA testing your the dad has to essentially kind of accuse the mom of cheating a little bit or it it becomes like an issue between the couple whereas if it's automatic then there's no har at the end of the day nobody's accusing anybody of anything yeah I see where you going with that um but maybe there might be some dads out there that wouldn't care one way or the other or some dads out there that um I don't I don't what if his dad doesn't even think about that he just trusts his partner implicitly and then two or three years after their first baby then what if let me let me send question back what if a woman just trusted a man you know to do the right thing and to be there for her and trusted him with the right thing though I don't know it's the right thing just stick by woman just BEC if she cheats on you then you have to respect yourself too but is it the right thing to you know is it right or wrong to you know have sex with a woman she gets pregnant and then to roll and and not be involved in that or to have nothing to do with it I mean we could we could take this all we can Rabbit Hole this all day long right and and that is even the father of the child you know and I'm not I'm not feministic like in this conversation I'm not like feminizing the conversation I'm just saying we can go down a lot of different rabbit holes with the idea of what you're saying like you know can we can we just should we just can we blah blah blah like we can we can do that all day long yeah I just yeah I just feel like um the consequences to Dad's not knowing so first of all I think a lot of men will just like trust their woman like okay yeah she didn't cheat on me why I have no reason to believe she cheated on me this is my child like most most of the time I don't think new fathers even think for a second that it's not theirs and then they'll spend you know a lot of money time effort raising a child that they had they known it wasn't theirs they wouldn't have done that and I think and then also yeah there are as I saw in chat there are medical reasons why kids deserve to know too whether or not they're are truly biologically theirs and and fathers you know there's there so I feel like everybody has a right to know uh without having to cause the whole scene of well let's do a DNA test and the mother going what you think I cheated on you and the whole rigoll and I forgot what percentage of it but there is a large percentage of men out there who are raising someone else's kids without knowing it and I just feel like there's something wrong about that well the great thing about DNA tests is It's a cotton or you know Q-tip swab in your mouth and a Q-tip swab in baby's mouth and then you send them both off so I think even if a father were to question his CH his the the biology of his child per se you can still do that behind the scenes without mom knowing without offending anybody you still you have like it's not like it's not like oh you take that baby home you sign your name on the the birth certificate and it's yours and that's it and that's how it should be and no ifs ANS or butts about it and and you're stuck for the next 18 years of life no no if you get home and you start looking at that baby because babies biologically are born right to look more like the father to present like the father so that they know that's theirs right like that's why somebody I'm sure somebody will come on here on the panel and explain this later but there's a whole biology behind babies looking like their fathers when they're born so what pisses every mother off I'll tell you I'll tell you that because you go through nine months and you go through all of this child labor just for that baby to come out not looking a slight bit like you my daughter nothing like me my son nothing like me like Daddy 100% and you're just like um like friend had a my friends had a baby recently and mother's white father's black and that baby came out white and so like pretty white and so I'm like is he curious but he's like posting pictures he's very happy it doesn't seem like there's any like it doesn't seem like there anyone's questioning anything like you read the comments and their pictures everyone's like beautiful baby beautiful baby stunning and I'm like I think maybe it's baby skin color can I mean you even have albino babies versus you know like it it can go and eye color eye color even can you know because it's recessive versus and it can go all sorts of different ways um I was hoping my babies took on my green eyes but but they didn't they took on the brown eyes and it pissed me off I was very insulted I worked really hard on these okay we are We Are The Rare Breed we're dying we're dying um yeah I'm too are you really oh I guess you're not close well I thought I was blue-eyed I thought I was blue-eyed my entire life oh yeah you're definitely definitely I thought I was blueeyed on my driver's license ready for my closeup mom on my everybody leaves they're like I can't I can't these girls are morons I thought it was going to be pretty girls drinking on here no what is this just like up my nostrils like Hey Y'all how how's it going how [Laughter] oh man I haven't left this hard in a while look my face is all red now you know why I'm the tomato is that where that came from the hor maxer the hor maxer named me yeah oh I actually did hear that story my face got all red tomato you're a raging tomato and I'm like okay the piece of work he is an interesting piece of work you know what in his world he perfectly normal to his peers in his chat his viewers he's perfectly normal but to the average person I don't know you tell me not normal that's what I'll tell you not the normal nowhere near normal no he's a little unhinged okay the my first interaction with him was doing speed dating with Alex of course and um and his first uh his first uh question to me was uh what was it do do do do you like sex clubs do you want to go to a sex club and I'm like H probably not definitely not but does this work for you is this a thing like how does how does this like does this typically work out and and of course it naturally doesn't and we've all proven that because every girl I know that has gone on a speed date with him has all every single one of them has turned him down so cheers to the hor Max we all all your weirdness cheers um yeah I I wonder why he doesn't change up his tactic you would think and it seems like he's the horr minimizer he really dries up my panties like hair desert as soon as I hear that man and I'm done with the internet folks thank you so much come for the entertainment stay for the stake um but realistically you know I don't actually want the hor maxer to change anything about him at all if that is who he is and that's who he wants to be I am 110% positive there will be a female out there it might be harder to find but there will be a female out there that will say oh my God yes I do love going to sex clubs first thing after just just meeting somebody for the first time there will be somebody out there okay it's not going to be me it's not going to be you that's for sure but I'm not negating the fact that there will be somebody however comma if he changed who he was and tried to be somebody different wouldn't that be even harder because now he's faking who he is and he's not being realis to himself and what he wants now I'm not again I'm not saying it right it's right what he does or what he says to women but stay true to yourself and you will inevitably find the other half of you who would appreciate that sense of enthusiasm for sex clubs I have a question I why is he not meeting any women at the sex clubs wouldn't that be the perfect place for him to find a woman who likes sex clubs is he just lying about going to set sex clubs no cuz I remember he streamed one time on his way into one and of course he had to like turn off the stream or something I remember like seeing something pop up about it but he was like on his way and waiting at the door or something but I think it's actually harder for men to get in as singles whereas females getting in as singles is like based on what I've heard him explain it as I've never learned this by experience by the way um by any means but I've learned that sure dead serious I've had a lot of experiences in my life but that is not one of them um and I'm kind of actually proud to say that so uh but in any event uh to what he was explaining was that men have like if they're coming in as a couple then they can get in no problems no issues there if you're a female coming in as a single no issues but if you're a man coming in as an individual just like at any nightclub to be quite honest it's you're standing in the line waiting per se and it would be harder for him to get in so that's my understanding imagine waiting to girl who's been by like 30 other guys that night like waiting in line okay like you're killing it hor maxer you're really like risen it up should he get a trophy or like just the participation ribbon you know everybody gets a participation trophy it makes all the men feel very good there you go it's like an In-N-Out Burger I guess I think we're all going to I know Burger tastes good but it definitely does not make you feel good later and anyone could have it actually that's not true cuz kind of exclusive to California but it's expanding it's expanding it's horing out I guess Nevada yeah yeah not here in Florida yet right it's not here in Florida is it in and out let me look I mean it's not here on the East Coast I know I mean I'm in Maryland so I haven't I don't think we have one here yet either um while you're looking at that I'm just going to take a quick tinkle Break um if you can entertain the chat and all of their craziness this is why I love you guys you guys have enough going on in the chat that I know that she can read this and be entertaining nonetheless so you go chat go ahead ask all the questions you want yeah you there's no In-N-Out Burger in Florida but there's definitely one in Vegas there's one in Arizona there's one in plenty of places so I go every time in Vegas yeah that's right my studies so yeah um I don't think that going to sex clubs is a particularly good way to prove that you're a Riz Master but you know hey what do I know oh there is one question from chat that I've been meaning to answer no I'm not going to read Rachel Wilson's [ __ ] book for several reasons one it was expensive kind of like 30 bucks I don't feel like giving her or Amazon 30 bucks for no reason um another reason I'm not going to read her book is because I feel like I got a pretty good gist of what her book's about by reading the um the reviews on the book and apparently she didn't even get an editor so it's just like riddle with spelling errors and grammar errors and grammatical errors I should say and so um and also I just think she's exceedingly low IQ so I I couldn't imagine you know wasting my time I have so many great books that I could read let's see I have Catch 22 I have um I have a book about Obama Obama enforcers I have this really interesting murder mystery I have like 60 books I have my legal text books I have uh J shetty's book which is pretty good I read about half of this one so far um so yeah I have a plenty of good books why would I uh read a [ __ ] um so yeah book Maxon that's right yeah why be a horror maxer when you could be a book maxer um those were some lame reasons well I don't give a [ __ ] I'm not going to read her Dum book so yeah yeah she's just I was going to if she wasn't so stupid and rude at the end even though she was stupid and even though I thought she made bad points um she was so unbelievably rude at the end that I'm never really gonna and then she blocked me on Twitter after that she literally blocked me right after the debate so like what do if I read her book I wouldn't even be able to debate her about which is like a huge point of me reading her book so I have literally no reason to read that woman's book but yeah does she have an audio book no she has like a book book that apparently is just riddled with you could get it on Amazon and apparently it's just like riddled with grammatical errors and spelling errors and it's all about um why it's and it's based apparently you could really only um connect with the book if you two are ex like very Christian like very deep in your faith and I'm like I'm Jewish so I don't know how much I'm gonna are you really and I'm yeah I'm I'm Jewish well my mom's Jewish my dad's Catholic so I'm a cashew and yeah so I don't I don't really have I'm so curious now how how was the find like were you raised One Way versus the other so my mom never really gave a crap about religion my grandma she survived the Holocaust so part of her wants to keep on like the Jewish tradition so she took me to like kabad and um some other like Jewish events and she kind of engaged in like yam kapor and like rashash Shana and Hanukkah and like the holidays and stuff but uh we weren't like that into it it was just like my grandma kind of tried to keep it alive and then my dad he really wanted us to be Catholic but my grandma didn't want us to get um didn't want us to receive communion and also my parents didn't my parents were dating and then I guess they broke up and then my mom wanted kids so she asked my dad like hey can we have kids to can we just have kids and co-parent and live our separate lives and my dad's like yes but then when I turned five my parents got together and married each other so they kind of did things backwards so um yeah so my grandma really didn't want my dad to have like control over the religion and so like I I kind of ended up in nowhere's land I didn't go to church I didn't get baptized I didn't uh I didn't get a bot Mitzvah I didn't so I haven't done like you didn't get either of either which kind of makes it sad because there's a lot of great traditions on both ends that you can experience you know I mean me I am Catholic so I grew up doing the you know obviously I was very very young when I was baptized and then um I did my Holy Communion that I remember doing that um I actually did my confirmation as an adult but like I remember my reconciliation I remember Sunday school I remember like I was uh an altar girl you know during church you know all of those different things so it was it was a staple for me so um yeah my dad was an alter boy oh so he kind of wanted to he wanted me to be like a part of the Catholic tradition and he used to somewhat take us to church every once in a while but not that much and the only thing the weirdest part about church for me is I became friends with the kids and I would play with them and yed and then all of a sudden their dad OJ Simpson went to jail one day and they stopped coming to that church I don't yeah so that was an interesting one but my dad so I don't know that's all I really got out of church is that I was friends with OJ's kids weird one of my neighbors just text me random L I hope everything's good with your neighbor well asking about a girl's name I hope she's improving but I don't know who the girl's name is so I think you just uh can you repeat it online can you dox it dox the name do the name do I don't want to say the girl's name but it's not my daughter's name I'll say that um oh it's a child don't do that then yeah thought you were talking about like an online person oh don't yeah you don't want to do you don't want to dox Children otherwise you be tree of logic you don't want to be like tree of logic you don't want to be like Miss donkey no not at all so okay so Primal had a really good question uh would you want your uh I don't know assuming boyfriend to be husband you inevitably do you want him to be the same religion as you but can you even answer that question because do you claim a religion so because of my experience and my lack of religion I think what I would do is I I really do want to find a man that I would stay with and I that's always the goal but like I really want a man who is going to want to be a father and so if he has a particular religion that matters to him then I I don't have a particular religion I'm not anti- being Catholic I'm not anti- being Jewish I'm not anti- being Christian so I think I would just follow whatever my husband wanted I don't think it would be very difficult for me to genuinely believe it I've tried it would be very difficult for me to genuinely believe it but I think I could raise kids to genuinely believe it because I think people who do genuinely believe in some sort of a religion tend to be better and happier people and I would want my kids to be as happy as possible and to be as like great as possible possible and so I would want them to grow up in a faith and so uh I think I would just follow whatever particular religion he is and what if he was something like a Muslim or I don't know some off landish that wouldn't fall under Christianity as a whole um I don't no I mean I know a little bit about the Muslim religion I've never really dated I've talked to a couple of Muslim guys I don't think I've ever dated anyone's Muslim like very seriously um I know the Jewish side of my family would probably have an issue with me raising my kids to Muslim um especially because of the whole strictness of how they treat women in that religion I feel like that would be really hard for me but then again Judaism is actually very similar like if you're truly a very religious Jewish woman you don't show your hair you keep kosher there's like there's female roles there's one of okay I was hanging out with my Rabbi one time and we were doing a prayer and he was reading it in Hebrew da d da and he's like this is the man's prayer this is the woman's prayer read your prayer I'll read my prayer and I go okay what what does my prayer say he's like well your prayer says thank god um thank God that I have the life that I have as a woman to do my duties to love my husband y y and I was like what does yours say and he was like well mine says thank God I'm not a woman like it was like so sexist like thank God I Thank God I'm a man and thank God I don't have to do like it was like so weird I was like wait this religion is just so I think every religion at its core I don't know so I don't know how I feel about that I just don't so I don't want my kids to have to wear burka I I think essentially and this comes down to that um the values and principles concept you know like finding somebody that matches you in that realm and I think if you're Jewish or even Catholic you may not fully have the same principles and guidelines and values and moral background as per se a Muslim would um um you might still have like a good standing in one place but it may not be necessarily the same grounding and Foundation um so what if he was uh like agnostic what if he didn't believe in God at all I'm agnostic too so I think I would vibe who I feel like I Vibe with agnostic people like I really understand them because I I feel like I'm agnostic as well um but simultaneously then when it comes to raising the kids all right how do you do you raise the kid to be I kind of like actually now that I'm thinking about it I guess I wouldn't have an issue raising the kids agnostic either because you're basically just saying hey I'm not really sure whether or not I believe God exists or doesn't exist maybe you should do your own exploration and then we'll support you with whatever if you want to go to church on Sundays or if you want to go to Sabbath on Fridays or Saturdays you know or if you want to do uh or not satday if you want to go to the temple on Fridays or Saturdays or if you want to I I would like to support my kid in Exploration as well because there's something beautiful about just choosing your own religion instead of being told you believe this because your parents believe this you know so I I'd be open to that as well yeah I mean I think it really to to me a value system comes into place when you have a religion right you know for for instance me I'm Catholic and I'm I'm I don't believe in abortion I don't believe in um me neither I'm very I it goes yeah it goes all over the place right there's a lot of like belief systems that I have I feel like I'm much more conservative the than the average girl in in a lot of ways um not to say that I'm perfect by any means so all of you that are about to blow the chat up saying stupid [ __ ] hold it to yourself like I'm not perfect I am still learning I believe we are in a lifetime of learning I get better the perfect little ripe tomato and I'm the ripe that was so perfect I'm a ripe tomato that's that's that's still that's still in fruition okay um but in any event uh I think that you know at the end of the day you're really religion and the way you were raised right and so it sounds like to me the way you were raised might have not really had a a steady Foundation except the idea that there was no Foundation right that was the only thing that was constant was that there was nothing that there was nothing it was really confusing because my dad would be like Jesus is your lord and savior and then I'd go to my mom and be like who's Jesus and she's like some guy that like other religions think is the Son of God he was just like dude he was like I guess he was like kind of a prophet but he's just some dude he just talk some words it's okay and then the worst part though was hanging out with my Jewish cousins and I was really trying to find Faith especially when I was younger and I remember one time I was like you know Jesus is a Son of God Jesus is like a really you know I was really trying to be like Christian because like most of my friends were Christian or Mormon or whatever and my Jewish cousin would be like no Mary's just some [ __ ] who got knocked up and who was embarrassed to tell everyone and so she made up this story about getting this Immaculate Conception and it turned into this whole and I was like what where and so I heard that story and then I I don't know I was like so confused for a while because like my Jewish cousins would like [ __ ] with all of my chran beliefs yeah very imagine that would be because it's two very conflicting religions by way of who is Jesus and if you don't have a common denominator for who Jesus is you're not going to get along on any other talking points in the Bible or any any other Factor like that comes with like your religion as a whole and the foundational concept because uh Catholicism especially we love Mary you know we don't believe she was some [ __ ] that got knocked up like she's the Virgin you know who had an Immaculate Conception and all of these other factors you know I've even debated not debated but I've even brought up the concept as you know somebody tried to make fun of me being a single mom I'm like well technically Mary was too if we really want to think about it like Joseph was the stepdad like he raised he raised another man's and they got married they got married after she was pregnant she got pregnant first before they got married yes unless I'm wrong that that was my impression so yeah yeah exactly so I think that um hold on I just I had to make my dad a wrench so that I could clearly see so I'm going like text I was like Dad say something in the chat so I can make you a wrench because I I don't feel like going back and finding your name any have I met Lauren before for as in one no uh so father my lovely father um all of these friends these are my internet friends so when I say I'm going to go hang out on the internet and play on YouTube these are all of my wonderful internet friends and even Lauren and I we've only had like what two two other I think two maybe two other interactions I know for sure we've been on um playing with fire for the speed dating together but I think before that was with you and Ashley and I wasn't even necessarily involved I just kind of got dragged into a thumbnail or something because I remember me with the pumpkin head on the thumbnail I was like why am I even on this I'm not involved um yeah but no yeah there's something with Ashley I even forget what the argument was originally about but she ended up being really funny and she ended up being a big supporter and then um there was a video that you made that you tagged me in but I wasn't really like prominent in the video and so that was how I first heard of you you tagged me like you tagged me and Lauren Southern in the same yes cuz you were calling out Lauren Southern and I was like it was something about like who Lauren oh oh I she not sleep yeah and you were like she's sleeping with Destiny she's sleeping with this she's sleeping with this she did I say that I didn't say that I don't think I leaked that detail I she did right now I'm going to pull it up right if I it before then I guess I remember you want to hear something really so I invited Destiny to my birthday and I also invited this other guy who also hooked up with Lauren and and hooked up with Lauren since Destiny and Destiny made a like scene at my workday he like blocked the guy like got super super with him and was like yeah Destiny's such a little [ __ ] it's pain really embarrassing I'd imagine him kind of being a he didn't even pay for his own dinner at he he spent like a hundred bucks and then didn't pay damn okay that's kind of dirty it's your birthday if anything it yeah for my birthday 's all for then right what I said what's all oh here it is what's all those super chats for oh you know what makes me sad my dad my me my dad and my older brother are hanging out and then they're on FaceTime with my younger brother and they're all drinking and they're all doing this without me they're all probably maybe watching making fun of me right now but um hold on let me find I found the episode I just got to find the spot there's Kevin Ray Wilder talking about toilet Rolo Andrew Wilson that was comical oh here it is okay yeah again I love everybody but I Rob did you finally show up for one I love you Rob listen Rob we're about to open the panel up here in probably like maybe 10 minutes because I think her and I are getting intoxicated enough to handle all of you little [ __ ] um but we're going to open it up and I hope you show up for this one Rob um all right let me see let me present screen share screen uh yeah because this is where's the beef all right did [Laughter] [Music] Souther well it looks like Andrew did a great job staying on topic and pushed so that was that was when I was really good friends with D I was really good friends with Destiny and I was like I had his back I kept all of his Secrets I was like I was really really loyal to him and really and I was like why does everyone backstab him like he's such a good guy he was my best friend for like a really long time and then somebody was like Hey you know just so you know he has multiple group chats where all he does is make fun of you here's an entire conversation where he's on you also he's been see and then he also sent me like secret recordings of other women in his apartment and I've been in his apartment so now I'm worried that he secretly recorded me and it's just like okay so you're just a dis and then and then isn't that illegal friend it's super illegal in Florida yeah it's a felony and he's done it like at at least six times that I know of at least six four times on one woman and then two other times that I know of to two other women and um it just really upset and then and then I have a a mutual friend with him and he tried to convince this mutual friend jasman to just like stop being friends with me and it's like you're a piece of I've always even in that clip that you just played when Andrew asked well hasn't he banged Lauren Southern I kept his secret because I was like this is dis it's not your business lay off of him well if you're going to just spread my destiny yourself like why should I Lauren in love with her he told Lauren he was in love with her and then she married or he was he was married he was married and he tried yeah he tried to leave yeah he tried to leave M for Lauren and Lauren was like no thank you and then he was like okay yeah he's embarrassed he's a bad person I'm glad that he's not my who else has Lauren Southern been with in the manosphere can somebody answer that question what are you talking has Destiny has fed myin has um who else did Rolo say that like oh a hunter Avalon um who else why am oh come on Alex you really don't want to lick a Lolli she she hasn't avalone I'm pretty sure hun avone doesn't have a penis um those were people those were people she was accused of sleeping with so I was trying to like list even though I knew even in thatp I was trying to defend Destiny I was trying to defend his Secrets I was trying to be like a good friend but he has been backstabbing me my entire relationship with him so I'm done I'm done keeping his Secrets he's a piece of you could go or clever story here be friends with everybody be coexistent but never trust or if you're and if you're gonna be friends with someone don't do not be especially if someone's been loyal to you from the beginning why backstab them repeatedly my daughter does this stuff what is this thing what what I don't know I'm hanging around my roommate I I have a new roommate and she's very Italian so maybe I'm getting used to the hand signals we're gonna do the I've got an off you reviews don't you know oh my God Lauren this has been absolutely fabtabulous I'm having a blast how about you oh I'm having a great time this is probably my favorite stream that I've done in a while this is a good one well good I'm that's exactly what I like to hear I like to appease not only to the audience but to the people that are coming on as guests you know um and this is the best way to spend a Saturday night quite honestly because ladies and gentlemen I don't have to drive anywhere I don't have to get a babysitter I don't have to do anything except for I'm literally in sweatpants and a nice cute sweater that I stole out of my daughter's closet don't tell anybody don't tell my daughter I totally grabbed this one out of there um but she does have way more fashionista scents than I do so by all means yes and Primal to your point we are saving on on a barab this cost me $13.99 that was it no Uber no bab no tip no nothing all I had to do was buy one bottle and that was it I'm laughing is like right after this stream ends I'm supposed to go out and grab an Uber and pay for drinks with my friend that sounds like a personal problem all right but see we're our goal is to try to keep you here long enough tonight AR aren't you East Coast or are you over in California now no East Coast but I'm East Coast but my friends like especially this one she goes like she starts her nights at like 11 12 so and then we go out until like 4: or 5 and then and I'm not working right now because the government ain't giv me my license and they're gonna pay me for having it broken back in the military so it they want me to drink okay government wants me to drink right now guda I do not have a man nor do I want one at this point in time because my days are are already long my time is spent here with you all I mean quite honestly could you imagine me trying to date while I'm I stream three nights a week I have a job five days a week and I have a two children seven days a week for the most part every once in a while I get a little mommy break but no I I'm not dating right now I don't want to date right now um I actually had this conversation with somebody the other day about how I am single serving Sarah I only enjoy like a first date going and doing something fun like indoor rock climbing paddle boarding um you know something that's an experience and that's about it um but outside of that I don't have time for a relationship realistically speaking if a man wanted to take me on as a relationship it would take a lot of work it would take a whole lot of work and I vibrator just get a vibrator dildo [Music]