Arizonans are tired of campaign stops at the border wall

[indistinct conversations] -Former President Donald Trump made a campaign stop along the US-Mexico border to Cochise County in southeast Arizona in an effort to pull steam from Vice President Kamala Harris's appearance at the Democratic National Convention. Trump found a familiar backdrop. -I said, close the border. We don't have a bill. We don't need a bill. Close the damn border. They closed the border. -The border has become the centerpiece of Trump's re-election campaign, and the wall itself a symbol of what he plans to do with four more years in office. -Thank you, everybody. -As the wall becomes a repeat backdrop for politicians looking for exposure, some Arizonans are getting frustrated that the wall is nothing more than a convenient photo op. -They'll fly in here, they'll caravan to the border, get their pictures, get back in their cars, and leave. Very few of them have stayed more than an hour. -John Ladd is a fourth generation Arizona rancher and outspoken proponent of strict border regulations. He plans on supporting Trump for a third time in the upcoming election. -It's somewhat unusual to see a border patrol up there. This is Obama's 18-foot wall. Same design as Trump's 30-foot, but only 18. And then Trump put the razor wire on it, concertina wire on it. And it didn't work because we don't have enough agents. They use a ladder to cut it from the south side. Just another tool in the box that didn't work very good. And that all goes back to just not having enough agents. -Ladd has conducted multiple border visits for news crews and politicians over the last 30 years. -Some of the politicians that, being on a border tour, that promise that this is what they're going to do, and then they didn't do it, I finally figured these guys out. They'll do whatever they got to do to get elected. -Sheriff David Hathaway patrols neighboring Santa Cruz County, which has the busiest port of entry among the four Arizona border counties and the city of Nogales. -Lots of politicians come in here for the photo op. They go to that fence, they stand there, they get their picture taken. "I was there I was there, and I saw the tragedy." They come to have a picture taken and then they speak some sort of canned rhetoric that feeds into this crisis mentality about the border. I don't see anything except animosity coming from the idea of the the symbolism of the wall, which to me is antithetical to freedom. -For border related... -Unfortunately, politicians that want the Trump, you know, Mexicans are bad dialogue, they go to Cochise County to kind of sensationalize the migrant issue. -Both men have grown up along the border and watched as this line between two countries grew from a strand of barbed wire to a monolithic fence. But they have very different opinions about what the government should be doing about illegal immigration. -The immigration laws and policies -- and Trump had a few new ones, but they haven't been enforced. With enough Border Patrol enforcing our immigration laws and policies, they'd quit coming. If there's consequences for coming illegally, they'll quit. -I don't think this infrastructure benefits anybody in this country. Let's get a robust guest worker program to accommodate them as workers so they can contribute to our economy rather than demonizing them. I would say, let's find a mechanism for them to come here and work. ♪♪

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