[indistinct conversations] -Former President Donald Trump
made a campaign stop along the US-Mexico border
to Cochise County in southeast Arizona in an effort to pull steam from
Vice President Kamala Harris's appearance at the Democratic
National Convention. Trump found a familiar backdrop. -I said, close the border. We don't have a bill. We don't need a bill.
Close the damn border. They closed the border. -The border has become
the centerpiece of Trump's re-election campaign, and the wall itself
a symbol of what he plans to do with four more years
in office. -Thank you, everybody. -As the wall becomes
a repeat backdrop for politicians
looking for exposure, some Arizonans are getting
frustrated that the wall is nothing more
than a convenient photo op. -They'll fly in here,
they'll caravan to the border, get their pictures, get back
in their cars, and leave. Very few of them
have stayed more than an hour. -John Ladd is a fourth
generation Arizona rancher and outspoken proponent
of strict border regulations. He plans on supporting
Trump for a third time in the upcoming election. -It's somewhat unusual
to see a border patrol up there. This is Obama's 18-foot wall. Same design as Trump's 30-foot,
but only 18. And then Trump put
the razor wire on it, concertina wire on it. And it didn't work because
we don't have enough agents. They use a ladder
to cut it from the south side. Just another tool in the box
that didn't work very good. And that all goes back to
just not having enough agents. -Ladd has conducted
multiple border visits for news crews and politicians
over the last 30 years. -Some of the politicians
that, being on a border tour, that promise that this is
what they're going to do, and then they didn't do it, I finally figured these guys
out. They'll do whatever
they got to do to get elected. -Sheriff David Hathaway patrols
neighboring Santa Cruz County, which has the busiest port
of entry among the four Arizona
border counties and the city of Nogales. -Lots of politicians
come in here for the photo op. They go to that fence,
they stand there, they get their picture taken. "I was there I was there,
and I saw the tragedy." They come to have
a picture taken and then they speak
some sort of canned rhetoric that feeds into this crisis
mentality about the border. I don't see anything except animosity
coming from the idea of the the symbolism
of the wall, which to me
is antithetical to freedom. -For border related... -Unfortunately, politicians
that want the Trump, you know, Mexicans are bad dialogue,
they go to Cochise County to kind of sensationalize
the migrant issue. -Both men have grown up
along the border and watched as this line
between two countries grew from a strand of barbed
wire to a monolithic fence. But they have
very different opinions about what the government
should be doing about illegal immigration. -The immigration laws
and policies -- and Trump had a few new ones, but they haven't been enforced. With enough Border Patrol enforcing our
immigration laws and policies, they'd quit coming. If there's consequences for
coming illegally, they'll quit. -I don't think
this infrastructure benefits anybody in this country. Let's get a robust
guest worker program to accommodate them as workers so they can contribute
to our economy rather than demonizing them. I would say,
let's find a mechanism for them to come here and work. ♪♪