[Music] oh I no I'm live I can hear myself hang on welcome to back chat I can hear myself as well back chat powered by paywise powered by me uh it's been a week here in the west welcome if you're just joining us for the first time we're live on on uh YouTube every Monday and Friday 4:30 we haven't had a chance to talk about Simo get in the ass [ __ ] it Wasa who whoa well let's we need it right everyone needs to stop saying he got the sack it was Mutual it was as Mutual a decision as [ __ ] World War II I reckon something of that nature just someone getting shot in the head and thought [ __ ] it let's have a big world war it was Mutual yes thank you very much for the update heish welcome backchat Power by paywise you are joined by of course my regular counterpart [ __ ] his hands and clap brw Hammer poo hands BR Shaw uh we will get on to that in a little bit Dan const is not with us he is in America on a holiday good on him Dan how have you gone D you pick a week to go on a holiday to Adelaide Adelaide America America and your coach get mutually leaves M your coach mutually decides to depart the football club oh boy after stating on the news two days prior that he was really came to see out his contract so hopefully you'll be happy it's just heish and I dragging you through the mud today dragging you through the [ __ ] actually yeah correct so you said at the start of this week that if Isaac Haney didn't get off you'd be [ __ ] in your hands and clapping I said well it was just it was the easiest get off ever it was nothing like incident he was a brown L metal favorite he's good-looking and he's inidian they're trying to go the game there and I thought well it's just a guaranteed get off so I said if he doesn't get off I'll [ __ ] in my hands and clap and he didn't get off are we going to be doing that live on the show a little bit later on maybe potentially maybe I mean you are a man of your I'm a man of my word I'm a man of my word I'll keep my word to some degree but that having been said yes the game hasn't started yet I don't know what's going to happen there's a chance that he get he could still play hello to all of our friends over on YouTube I see all of you I'm running the chat tonight ladies and gentlemen so you would interact with us there please do Jeremy McGovern will join us in a little bit the live exclusive not live so Jeremy mcgaven uh brought to you by a athletic by the way gu inter but he is genuinely powered by paywise oh yeah he was revived by paywise he he drove from Melbourne to Perth couldn't fly commercially unavailable to be taken anywhere by Virgin by quis by yep what other ones are there Rex Rexy jet star do they still do anything they scoot no one could get him there and who could get him there Frank Frank over from pay wise thought you know what [ __ ] it drive over right and so he will join us straight off the nullor in just a little bit but before we get there Hammer I thought we'd have a little bit of a chat about what's gone down this week it it's been been a big week it's been a big week right it's been the biggest West Australian week it's been the biggest week in wa football since West Coast won the flag yeah that's probably right no question about it that's probably right uh Ross the Boss when he got sacked no wasn't as big this has been Harley raid getting drafted not as big which is saying something this has been massive it wasn't because it was a surprise though no no one surprised that Adam and finished up in fact I think he'll be relieved I think the club will be relieved media like I was getting sick of talking about should they sack him should they not there there's a there's a lot of Rel the players are relieved apparently correct do you think the West Australians relieved uh no I don't think they are relieved I mean it would be it would be poor by us not to chat about that off the top how do you think it was covered over the journey well over the week poorly like terribly as a matter of fact um look Simo gave them a clip on the way out yes in his press conference a look a warranted clip yeah probably like they wrote a shitload of articles about him which is their job which is their job he's the head coach of a football club the one of two football clubs in the state he's on what a million dollars a year he's and the and his team was not very good for three years so they like deservedly so he's going to be written quite a bit about yes the team was stale there was needed to be change and sort of he was the figurehead for that and as the head coach of a football club you need to be and you got to wear that the clip on the way out I like I got no issue with that yeah mate you [ __ ] written 300 articles about me [ __ ] off yes basically what he said and there's nothing wrong with that but the response [ __ ] hell that was bad like it's it obviously gets ticked off at a number of levels but like oh boy and it was it was [ __ ] it was a really bad article it was [ __ ] just dragging out of the gutter and just thought [ __ ] you I'm going to just you know you've made me you've made us look a little bit [ __ ] so I'm just going to once again smear a big handful of [ __ ] on you and clap on your face were we were we surprised about the re no the reaction were we sured I don't think we were surprised with the West coverage because I I think that's I think they would sit and say that would have been their their biggest trending day on social media in their existence honestly ever and they would be pting themselves on the back for that so I don't think you should be surprised with the front page because that's that's what they are I was surprised by the reaction of the football Community like it went not only West Coast it was everywhere well yeah so my thoughts on that are like speaking directly about Adam Simpson I was on that list for three years and I didn't like him as a coach I was not a great player and got played once yes so like he didn't give me a lot of time yes in my opinion and like yeah look I probably I was a bit of aaran and wasn't probably as good as my confidence around the the foot club and got spat out but I didn't like him as a coach because I didn't get opportunities which half the list doesn't anyway but to play 300 I'm a massive North Melbourne supporter and I'm back on them hard to be a 300 game captain of a football club yep you have to be a good blug there is no doubt in my mind that Adam Simpson as a human being is a good blug and he is and a good person and a good person a very good person like I like him outside of football yes but as a coach I didn't but to see the way that that was written after he got not mutual that's he was sacked the club said it [ __ ] you're done to have that be the picture for him after 11-year tenure [ __ ] making two grand finals winning one of them making seven straight finals and just coping the [ __ ] end of a bad list for three years that was ravaged by everything yes is disgraceful and it was really really bad look yeah I agree with you and that's where I sit like I didn't like him as a coach like him as a person but to see that it's like that's just you feel like oh [ __ ] that's a bad that's a low blow to the nut sack I I spoke to g a little earlier so we're going to play that interview in just a little bit uh Vice Captain of West Coast it' be great to hear his thoughts I clearly know what he says so I'm I'm I'm previewing this interview knowing what the content we speak about I use the analogy that it Simo the West Australian like been going head-to-head like on a footy field right um forward V back and there's been a fair bit of naggle like there's been a bit of off the ball stuff they they they it's not just a normal match where you think all good so at the end of the game as a player it was always difficult to go and Shake someone's hand but you always did it it it didn't even matter if it got personal it didn't even matter if there was cheap shots to the ribs and the guts and and and everything was on the line you you have to sit yourself down and go right the siren's gone it's over yeah you can't do anything after the siren's gone shake hand I'll see I'll see you next battle but the moment Adam Simpson was fired and sacked and he did his press conference Y and he gave his clip to Woodcock and the west and all of that that was the that was the end yeah correct and that was the handshaking movement and if if that means Adam Simpson gets his last he's the guy that has the last say so be it but the hierarchy of the West didn't want that they childishly replied they acted with vengeance instead of respect instead of shaking hands and going well done well played we've played this game hard we've done our job you tried to do yours hey you might have been [ __ ] for the last three years but we can respectfully say good job well done here's the credit that you Reser deserve and then we you know tomorrow which is the thing is newspapers are a day-by-day proposition so the next day they could have come out with hey just so you know we put the we put the Premiership cup up right yeah and he's done well but just so you know the last three years he's won nine games in the last 60 well you could have I'll tell you what they could have done they could have put the I mean you got it was a magical thing that you guys made exactly what it should have been photos photos photos do we have that by the way Jaden do you have the updated back page somewhere that we could put up probably anyway regard there it that was what so that was put up second yes the one you guys did was better um that that one there bang that should have been day one if that comes out in day one you can still write in the article yes his last three years were [ __ ] yes it can still be said but that it's like man like [ __ ] hell yeah they completely butchered her wonder if I wonder if they think they butchered it but anyway uh it's been a tumultuous week over here in the West in the media um my memories on Simo I wrote an article uh not for the West um and I'm not going to promote where I wrote it because I'm not trying to do that tit fortat but I I wrote an article because I I'm writing I can actually get out what I want to say a little bit better than speaking which sounds a bit weird but you think about it when you're writing my memories on Simo and I did a bit of a journey so the first time I met Simo um was 2013 ended 2013 I a b beard big Ned Kelly beard and the word had got back to me masto and JK who had all all had beards at time Adam Simpson's not fan of the beard okay wants you to shave it off okay and so me as a fringe player yep shaved it straight away mate I had a one-on-one meeting at 9:15 the next morning and I went back to a barber I got a I got a Cutthroat shave not even a a I got a skin skin razor shave y I've rolled up cuz cuz um s was the one that passed a message on and said boys you're going to have to shave him he's not happy thinks you're taking the piss doesn't want him can't don't rock up if you rock up with a beard don't rock up at all JK can probably Rock up I've rocked up 95th Dan cling and Adam Simpson's looked up at me the first time I met him and he just goes grinning with this stupid grin on his face goes what happened to the beard I thought it suited you and masted the same gone JK kept it rolled in there with a beard big dog right and he says oh go you know mate it's because you were getting picked and me and master trying to get a game exactly so that's my first memory move forward um uh I was on the outer again 2015 started 2015 Eric McKenzie Mitch Brown first um I grew the beard back but two acl's in the first round back I came back and it was the first time I felt um thly backed by Adam Simpson in 2015 yep and it was cuz he had to yeah had to back we didn't have any other options it was me GV and Tom Baris as a first year player who was well off the mark so it was me and G the only key backs so 20 um 2015 was the first time I felt trusted by Adam Simpson then 2018 I had the ups and downs I got played round one he dropped me round one driving to the airport um to go and pay specs to a mate who had passed away he dropped me so I just I was I was off him for half a year I was off him didn't get back into the side till halfway through the year played some good footy then he dropped me on the eve of the qualifying final remember that and I never forget that phone call I was upstairs in my ladal apartment and he like I knew what the call was about she didn't pick it up can't drop me yeah correct but I I picked it up S and he said uh scy and I was like mate am I'm playing or not and he said M I'm not going to be able to give you the clarity I I want to over the phone I said if what's happening he's like mate we're not going he said we're not going with you this weekend and it just cooked me I uh I was as poor as I've ever felt in my entire life not a great way to be which is interesting given I'd gone to a funeral of a mate lost me old man on the way that moment right there I was in a bad bad way and went to the footy got myself up for the footy Shep HT himself of course his hamstring not his head and the Monday morning after the qualifying final after we' beaten Collingwood Simo pulled me off into the did he sub fuing love him best guy ever took me off into the CH into not into the ch in the best coach ever sio took me off into the subo race because we're still trying subie in 2018 yep and he told me on Monday post the qualifying so still two weeks out from the prelim he said you're playing you're straight in no selection don't worry about you're in and I remember those sort of three things as memories of Simo um and he also told me the Monday before the Grand Final I was playing on Jordan de [ __ ] and I just looked at him and said no see you later that was the only chat we had about the Grand Final that's [ __ ] until I saw him afterwards for a big hug so I had different experiences with him than you did but I was the most dropped player by Adams TI career there you go so I had every right to put that front page together so when I saw that front page I had similar feelings I thought as a coach similar and I buted heads more than anyone ever yeah but I saw that front page and just thought that's [ __ ] you can't do that and as did everyone else yeah it was a big blow up hey I did tell you I was running the comments and we've had a bloody super com I love a super comment yep Maddie put down his hard earn bucks for how much we talking 30 bucks [ __ ] hell Madie okay let's read this out so this needs to be this has to be read and lorded absolutely so um and we have to answer it so I haven't read or okay understood understood understood what the West Australian did to Simo was the Isaiah Thomas refusing to shake Jordan's hand moment it will be immortalized in poor sportsmanship in Western Australian history it will be love your scoy love your Hammer [ __ ] o I love you mdy MD that is M that is firstly bang spot on love the fact that 30 bucks come on that's the best 30 bucks you've ever spent secondly you're dead right like that is going to be set in stone forever as like just the epitome of poor sport throw the to out of the C [ __ ] you like that's bad never be forgotten never be forgotten no one will ever forget it do you think I think Simo and his way out may have potentially shifted the dial in in how mainstream media into interact maybe just a SL way I think it'll have an impact here in Perth at least it has to it it has to I think he yeah anyway I think it's um he'll toss the coin on Saturday yes and I think he will get a [ __ ] rousing Round of Applause before we go to Jeremy mcgoverin which we're going to in just a little bit I do have to announce we are uh all set all guns loaded for our big Derby show at the lead Hotel Hammer Sim's going to beat no he no he's not he could be I might actually ask him he did tell me he so he told me I spoke to him today he told me a couple of things he said I owe you a back chat interview so we will have him here on backat at one stage can I be in that I hated you as a coach you're a good bloke and you play for North I hate I didn't I didn't hate him I didn't like him as a coach in his it was funny when the I know you're about to keep speaking the moment I was no longer he was no longer my coach I could literally tell the SW went to being I was like good Bo in my exit interview I was I knew I was Dlisted yeah he walked in there and before he even said like he Dlisted he goes [ __ ] mate I was so happy we could get you a game I was like oh go I'm done but like instantly just um anyway so Simi is going to be at the thing is live from the Leadville Hotel Friday the 26th of July so in two Fridays time we're going to be live at the ladyy hotel so excitingly 6 P Friday Night Lights myself and Dave Mundy so every time I leave this podcast at Friday go see the concert I go on host Friday Night Live understood that is going to be live from the lead Hotel 6 till 8:00 wow Dave Monday the leading games record holder from the Freo Dockers will scoffield the leading most dropped player at the West Coast Eagles I'm going to ask himo to come down we're going to have special guests Glen jackovic is going to be down there Lee Spurs going to be down there plenty of six PR talent but I'm going to ask a few others as well hey Miss brw might be there I'll be there with not with Bell on I'll be playing the next day but I'll be there from 5:00 p.m. come down uh you're going to take h down on in a handball competition from 5 we'll watch the footy together we'll listen to some Ys we'll have lots of special guests live radio show and you can get your tickets right now at backchat studios.com this will sell out well no question it's already sold out we've done the early bir the early bir early birders have sold out and the early birds have almost sold out the whole place so get your tickets now correct uh and we moved it to Friday so we can get pissed y I can't yeah but I will uh I think everyone's here to listen to Gob so let's go and listen to our good friend thanks to ID athletic idath ale.com bringing you the vice captain of the West Coast Eagles Jeremy McGavin on his thoughts on the Adam Simpson [ __ ] show and the driver across the null give it to me it's okay come back wow the boys the boys if we're talking about [ __ ] we talking about [ __ ] we're talking about poo all over the keyboard how are you how are you feeling about [ __ ] in your hands and clapping oh not great yes cuz you are going to do that a little bit later on I potentially will do that a little bit later on yeah I'm going to poo in my hands and clap as unless isak gets up he's a chance mate he's a mad chance okay so did you like the fact that Sydney Swans uh rolled him out like he' murdered a guy after that no we're back we're ready go ping done did you like the fact that they named Isaac Heeney yeah that was [ __ ] funny that was quite funny okay all right Jaden's finished shooting the bed and we're going to go to Jeremy McGavin from a athletic thank you very much all right okay after one of the bigger weeks in uh Western Australian football news this man on my right joins me Jeremy MCG Where Have You Been mate why don't you fly back with the boys thanks for coming in thanks for stepping into back chat Studios where haven't I been I've driven the nullable you have driven the nullable so can we start with that story I know you want to speak about Simo and a few of the other things going on at the footy club which has been a big week but you haven't been here for it so what can you take us back what happened youy it feels like I've been gone for weeks to be honest um it all yeah oh yeah obviously I got injured in the game um which happens and um unfortunately I've been through it a little bit with the ribs and stuff and um is it same injury is it a r injury of what uh no no I've just broken me other ribs which I got we big ribs which probably well known now um so yeah that all happened and then uh I was planning on flying back um as you do you got to get tested and scans and stuff to make sure that you haven't collapsed lungs and all that punched lungs and all that sort of stuff and initially the scans looked okay and I was like all right gra fly um and then we heading to the airport and then got a call saying that no you've got a small punch in your lung right so then it was just you're going to have to stay back and we'll try to get you on a later flight but um I found out now which I didn't know like protocol for Airlines is once you've obviously punched your lung or anything uh to do with your lungs in that sort of capacity not all to fly for seven days right so it's it's just said protocol and it's fair enough CU it's obviously risk flying um you have a punctured lung yeah minor minor it wasn't like yeah I was I was fine I felt I felt great I don't know the difference between a minor and a fully like I feel like just a puncture a punctured balloon is a punctured balloon the same thing yeah I would look I didn't it just it's a self-healing one I've I've I've punched it my lung like yeah unfortunately a few years ago that one was different that was you know had to surgery and all that sort of stuff so this one was Miner um and then it was back to the hotel and scrambling to try and get back and then you know back and forth like the club the club did absolutely and the AFL everyone was trying to do everything they could to help get me back yes uh but you know you got to respect the airlines policies and uh the the risk factor and health and all that sort of stuff so yeah then was been Melbourne for a week so that was Monday evening all of that was going on and then back here in Perth there was some other things going on so probably around that time not sure when you sort of found out but Monday night Tuesday Morning Tuesday morning over here Adam Simpson finishes his tenure as West Coast coach so uh you were trying to get back before you knew that but then when you found that out yeah yeah well that's man it was all there was so much going on um that was all happening the club was everyone was doing going above and beyond for me to try and get me back so it was a lot of couple of days of that uh and then it was like all you got to stay um which is fine I stay in Melbourne for a week and catch up with my brother and family just looking at some things to do while I was there and then um yeah found out Tuesday Morning Simo Simo actually gave me a call and just said mate yeah I'm uh I'm finishing up uh and obviously first reactions obviously sad of been with him me whole career um I love him to death so um was initially sad and then it was um after that phone call sort of happened I was felt a bit selfish that you know everyone's putting these re everyone's woring about this but you know this other stuff which is probably a little bit more important than me sitting in Melbourne uh was happening back here so um yeah once that sort of call come through and understood where the club was at obviously was one major reason but two the club as well like C is G through a tough time for sure but so is the club like all the players staff everything it's it's all happening and I just there just part of me I was like I can't sit here while all this is going on um you know and I can't sit here and you know watch if Simo did coach or you know not sort of say goodbye to see want to pay my respects to him um I I spoke to you around that time and you were half consider you were trying figure out if you could play you were trying to figure out if you could come back because at that time was up in the air whether Simo was going to coach again yeah I didn't know that at all and whether he did or he didn't it wasn't really you know if he was coaching of course put me hand I'd still put me hand out to play if I could this week but um I can't but uh yeah like it it was mainly to pay respect to him of course um and to get back and support the footy club and get back to me there's a lot of reasons to come back put it that way and I just didn't feel comfortable sitting in Melbourne while all this was sort of happening and so how did you get back yeah well that that was the next thing is I felt so I felt bad because the you know everyone was going above and beyond like I said at at the footy club and and all this I just thought I you know I stuff I I'll drive and we actually it was a consideration before we this all happened but you know we just thought just chilling Melbourne for a week then this happened and so I just thought stuff it I'm who I got to call someone and see if I can get a car and come back and called Frank from paywise theat Power by paywise yes he it's sponsor sponsor of back chat as well and I called Frank said mate I random one can you have you got a car by any chance at anyone you know anyone who can wants to get a car back to Melbourne um he goes yeah give me 10 minutes gave me a call back said M I got a car for you if you want to drive it back I was thought stuff it I'll I'll do it um went and picked the car up um had no number plates on it the entire way home no the whole way home I I picked it up and I said M what's what what what's going on here there's no number plates he go oh no you'll be righteous there's a permit in there you'll be fine I can drive across 3,000 G without a number I feel dodgy ass already uh and then he's like no you'll be fine just yeah jump in and drive it back so yeah the great man Frank looked after me got me a car drove me and I just started driving and and then from there obviously um Club was worried obviously with the injury and um which is fair enough and driving a Fair Way by myself um your partner Maddie decided to fly adade so I scrambled my way to adelade and met her there picked her up and yeah we drove back what' you do talk about tell what that's a first we covered a lot of different areas and it was uh it was good it was I'm glad she comes she's she's a legend she always supports me and does everything she can for me uh yeah everything she absolutely can for me and I was wondering why she put her hand up so quick and I just thought she was a couple of days away from the kids are again so um no it was great she she come over and drove most of the way obviously um being a little bit sore with the ribs and stuff but um yeah and I was uh I got I got a cutle hours in and I was thinking [ __ ] this is a this is a long long way um stop stop past quickly and so big Scotty loss in nade did you yeah and I just said M where am I stop what's to going he's from shun area he's like she's stopping there so I stopped there and had a good look and I've always wanted to do it the N but and now you've done it now I've done it it's like TI great I've done it but I wouldn't recommend doing it in a rush like with a bunch of yeah with with with some sore ribs and um all those circumstances that's for sure but respect to the truckies man the truckies those BLS are legends like they're one what they do two on those Road they you know when you suck on a truck yes and you're half poking your head out to see M that every single truck he's throwing indicator on giving you a wave through like it's perfect time to overtake mate just those little things on the road the courtesy stuff I just I loved it and I followed I followed them to all the road houses I know where all the good roadh houses are so why did you feel like you needed to drive across the nullor I by the sounds of been talking to you it's like for Adam Simpson why why do you feel so connected what's What's um other than the obvious I suppose I don't know yeah like obvious s was the main reason and I think just for me like we've been through so much he's he's the one who gave me my career really um as you know I was uh I needed some work as a young footballer um but I didn't really have a lot of uh I had my own belief I guess but I don't know Simo it's it's weird because when he come he obviously he banished me from the up yeah and was that his first year his first year I I think I was the example I was the example and he set the ex and it was fair enough it's not was an example I bought on myself um and he obviously banished me but there was just like this underlying belief like you could just see he was disappointed in me not more you know you're embarrassing it was just more I'm disappointed cuz you know and he told me after that he thinks I can play and he wants to get me in the side being a rookie see so far off a just hearing that you know it just gives you gave me about a confidence of you know the Senor coach thinks I can play so obviously off the back of that built a little bit of confidence up and um yeah the banishment story we've gone over that many times I don't yeah I don't want to go too deep into it but you know and it's sort of my relationship with him started from there and I guess from that day it was I was I was just loyal to him I guess he gave me my first game first opportunity um didn't look at me purely as a fat kid from Albany football he was actually looking at me holistically he like this guy's good footballer we need to get him right um and I guess from that day I just tried to do everything I could to One play for him two um not let him down cuz he you know he's sticking his neck out a little bit for me um and then from there yeah we I had yeah my whole career so far today with him um it kind of jumps to mind given youve got a rib injury now was Simo involved much with the 2018 Grand final decision to play cuz we're talking about that here as well that you were 50/50 right up until an hour before the game did did he have much to do with that or was he medical guys make the call and yeah you would have had conversations with him surely yeah yeah there was and there was never like any conversation of you know playing like I can't play it was none of that he was just more and this is was our she was like mate if you're ready to go I'm playing you so you just going to let me know um and I trust your decision so um and that was sort of our relationship throughout my whole career you know it just backed you in so much and trusted you so much which I did with him as well so um yeah he he wasn't there nagging me pushing me none of that he just let me go and um you know asked me if I'm ready and I sort of half nodded like yeah mate I I think I'm I think I'm right I don't think he wanted to see the fitness test which he steered well away from but um yeah it's just that was just our relationship over many years and bought me into leadership roles you know at the footy club which I never thought at all was a thing for me um he yeah spoke pretty early to me say man I think you can you've got leadership qualities and I want to try and help develop you and that just all those things you know as as a young player coming through just having the lacking of your Senor coach or a person within that footy Club just helps you grow as a footballer and as a person um and that was the biggest thing that I've Loved about Simo who's at yeah was football of course 100% he was you need to perform you know do everything you can to play footy but at the same time he was really invested in you being a good person and trying to help you be a better person a better dad now you know all these other little you cared about me as a person rather than just footballer so um yeah it was it was a Nob brainer for me to do whatever I could to get back and try and show some respect to him and thank him I guess in a way you're obviously uh I don't know how many people are on the list that you drive across the nullor for but you're clearly connected well to him it's probably him couple mates no look yeah you're a loyal person though I do know that but it's a bloody big effort yeah I it's not like I yeah I it was just the circumstances don't get me wrong I'm not you're not praising myself and pump myself up hitting driving the null at all it was just more a values thing for me and you know it's whether I was down the road or whatever it was I just do everything I could to try and get there to one just show some respect and um just acknowledge that I I care about him and and appreciate everything he's done for me and my career I'm not sure if much media coverage got uh to you along the Journey of the nullor but have you seen much of the coverage back here in Western Australia have you got any thoughts on that not oh no not I mean specifically the the front page of the paper got a lot of coverage over here yeah look yeah I did of course yeah that was going around and you know I'll got to be careful what I say because for me I'm I'm biased towards Simo and um it's not just I don't even think it's about Sim I just think it's just about a little bit of respect for him um for him but also um I think he summed it up pretty well in his press conference with you know I'm a player I'm in it now um feel like sometimes it does lean towards a little bit of disrespect to the actual individual um and the person rather than you know I'm not going to say we we're in a sport and a job that is criticized and that's that's what it is for sure but the Way Simi put it I think is pretty good of you know we are still human um and the angle and the way it's portrayed sometimes does seem like a bit more of a personal attack thing and uh I think just the way it's yeah that that washed up was um it was just really disappointing for me um one for Simo purely because you know that's his last sort of har this a time to celebrate him um which we are now um I am anyway and I know the clubbies there's a lot of people throughout wa who are but I felt like the the West australi had a really good opportunity just to you know thank him for his time and thank him for the 300 times they put him put him on the on the back back or front page but look I'm not judging them individually but I just yeah I thought it was a little bit disrespectful to to siman and the footy Club I I liking that to a little bit uh bman V forward on the field so the west and CMO gone ah head to-head right for three years yeah at the end of the game I think most shake hands and say good job that that was probably the opportunity missed um yeah oh look yeah you can argue yeah just some people say it might be the right thing great but my values in the way that's exactly how you look out of thanks man appreciate the battle over the years um but I respect you as a person uh where that sort of maybe come across that we don't respect you at all Simo which is a little bit sad but you know we we'll rally around the big Feller and selling celebra him as much as we can are you trying to get back to play this year yeah yeah of course yeah for sure um I want show serious yeah the rib lung expert I now just book book me in if you've ever had a broken re [ __ ] um yeah now for sure I've I've only got back a couple hours ago so um I got to go and see the docs tomorrow and we'll come up with a plan and and see how soon I can get back to play but yeah definitely man we're um we're in a tough spot like obviously the footy Club at the moment and we need everyone on deck and yeah I going to do everything I can to to get right so I can get back and help these boys new coaches are on the agenda now um let's talk about Jared scoffield who's taken over the Reigns I I met sko for the first time last week properly had a good chat to him yeah um I had a few text messages congratulating me on the job um so good luck good luck coach of the Eagles during the week which is very funny but can you tell us AIT about Jared scoffield I don't know much about him and you would aach the last couple years at the club no SC is a ripper mate we've um obviously had him last couple of years um I knew him before he obviously went over to port for a bit obviously his record at subie speaks for itself um but now he's a great coach um he's yeah he he Relish in that role and I know we do everything he can to help us push out the back end of this year and um whatever happens from there sort of happens I guess but um now he's direct he's what sort of coach is he um yeah he's direct direct coach which not everyone thinks Direct as he no it's not not that it's just more outline clear Direct on what we're doing um you like that I do like that yeah so um I think he's I think he's going to be great and not just SC we got obviously a lot of other coaches around him um I'm sure they will be working together try and do whatever they can to for us to keep moving forward which is that's that's what we're doing so um yeah I'm stoked for SC and um I'm looking forward to actually to playing under him as well so as much as my loyalty with Simo he's he's always going to be there um you know switches across to him now and uh we'll do everything we can for him there's a few former teammates former coaches of yours that are in the running for the position as well as Jared scoffield there's others being Flo a lot of rookies actually Dane Cox uh former rookie with the club Ash Hansen I believe could be very disrespectful to Ash but I think he could have been a rookie might not have been and Jamie Graham of course all uh former at West Coast uh and coaches as well if you you've been able to look at any of those or your job at hand what are your thoughts on any of those those talks oh look at the end of the day like it's it's a complete Club decision um you back the club in for sure and um they'll make decisions that they need to obviously getting some past players back would be awesome but um yeah whoever gets it gets a role so um for for me yeah I'm not too worried about that aspect I guess it's that that's a club thing for us it's just I think as a playing group as Club whatever fits fits best for us to to keep improving and and hopefully get back to uh to some quality form which we're all chasing the whole club is playing group everyone so um yeah what will happen what happen in that space but um as much as it's sad seeing Simo goes it's it's exciting as well on the on the flip side of it of you know fresh voice um you know so different ideas I guess and different way of doing things that's a little bit exciting as well so were you driving back for Simo or you driving back for the past players box that they've set up at the ground for simos know you not a past player but I I believe um Simo has got some things on for his final game he's um I think he's flipping the coin so yeah I think he's flipping the coin and wave into the crowd sure pumped by that you have be a fake coin he'll probably put that coin in his pockets you and you'll get so angry me saying that but um there were few few past players hang around and clearly people of been impacted by S more across the way too yeah and that like that's the beauty of what like as much as this all sucks you know like you want him to go on forever but that's just the nature of football that it doesn't happen but um when these things do happen there is this good beautiful side of it in a way of you know the 18 boys and a lot of pass players have coached under him you know all getting together and chilling the fat again so hopefully we'll see a fair few of those boys around the club throughout this week and over the weekend so I'll be catching up hopefully catching up with a fair few of with the 18 boys and and whoever's floating around so that's that's a nice thing that comes of these tough situations so um yeah it should be good seeing a few boys hopefully I'll be looking after myself and making sure I'm respectable I can't say say the same about a few of the boys that count to box with free I don't know if they're free beers but box with fre beers um and a few of these boys there I might L up a little bit I think uh any final thoughts on Simo on uh future of the Club the playing group how do you think the players have feel I know you haven't been back to the club but yeah it's hard for me to judge yeah I I haven't been back at all but um I'm sure this mixed emotions like we we've all got mixed emotions about the whole thing and like I said it's it's sad saying my coach or our coach I guess if you've been with him for so long um leave but also at the same time it's it's a little bit exciting but um no I'm just uh I'm soed to be a part of um C coaching career and um I'm honored to you know call him my coach for for a long time and I couldn't thank him enough um one as a footballer but two as a person he's he's helped me out so much and um yeah I'll be forever indebted to him and you know he's he's a coach for such a long time but I do really think he's a mate now um that he's finished up I really do look at him as as a good friend and someone I'll I'll forever lean on I'm sure um but uh yeah it's he's not dead like he said before he's not dead but uh you know I I'll wish him and his family and Nikki and everyone all all the best going forward and um I'm looking forward to seeing what he does and uh hopefully hangs around wa and have a beer with him one day and we can we can Che the fat about some of the old stories um before I let you leave it would be remiss of me to not mention the Jack Buckley medal the back chat bman of the Year award Tom Baris is in the top five at the moment um you I don't know if you've got many votes this year not obviously not D enough you you've been kicking them allall very well very well maybe a bit too much I wish I knew that before I come on you so t five it's actually just on your left of Jack Buckley it's right there in the casing so that was the in overal medal I'll have a look at it now cuz I don't think I'm ever going to win one well well you might um uh Tom Baris tell us about him in his year and what do you think he's D enough to go and win the Jack yeah man TB for sure who's going to win it I hope what top five is he yeah so uh Harris Andrews is in there Sam Collins is in there Jack Buckley is in there Jacob weering is in there yeah look some good backman mate great backman there's there's so many good backman in the league at the moment um and I can't argue with any of them um except I'm not in there but that's no look to be honest I yeah that's a serious caliber top five for sure but um yeah I hope my boy TB gets up there we've got a seven games left now so I'll um have a word yeah I'll have a word to him let him know he's in the running for that sure Dar ax spoils even even sort of you know cracking the shits when your opponent kicks a goal that sort of stuff we can get him doing that for sure no yeah that's M that hope Obie goes well in that big TB um it'd be an honor for him to win it it would be great a West Coast player ever won it well it's just started Jack barckley last year so so is it forever Jack Buckley yeah it is yeah that's amazing good I mean could go back to back cor correct just for the eternity of Jack butley career just wins it um but no M yeah I'm glad you're doing it for the backs The Backs need a little bit of love and I and I uh as a bman appreciate as much as I'm not in there I I appreciate everyone acknowledging some of the backs and hard work they doing yeah those boys that are playing uh that top five at the moment they're are they're all flying so um could be anyone's but um I'm glad you you're knuckling it down a little bit more and looking at bit deeper than just actual playing you're going directly on Batman a which is corre credible that's what we need um that's what just you just need something as a backman we don't get much so that that's nice back TR powered by paywise of course for season 2024 and Jeremy mcar joins us in studio thanks to paywise because they got him across the got me acrosso and the boys mate go get some sleep thanks for joining us I do thanks y there we go Jeremy McGavin fresh off his trip from the nullo thanks athletic thanks to paywise for bringing us the vice captain of the team pretty good effort from GV great effort from GV and shout out to the truckies sh shout out to the truckies seriously shout out to the truckies shout out to Frankie and the boys at paywise me uh wow what do we have any more paid comments or so just back on YouTube thanks for joining us ticked over 500 people simultaneously watching that on YouTube thank you and some friends on Instagram as well hello hello Mitch MCG watching now MD set things off here with P com one of the best Timmy dogen's followed through with another one what has Timmy got for us TD says Adam Simpson on his first day as coach you need to shave yep to you Adam Simpson on his last day as coach you need to shave to biley Williams very good Timmy I like Timmy deser letting us know now this one says this one tells me let's celebrate their first Super on a live stream so a super comment Wow Let's Celebrate for and this is from Simo this is from this is from Simo this is from Adam Simpson this is Adam Simpson congratulations now this is from just Simo stop Lads did Simo allowing an unfit and unmatch ready Willie roli straight back into the side after his drug ban caus him to lose some of the players at the time good question I was Dlisted uh I was also Dlisted I think this was 2021 when Willie came back I believe so knowing a few players that were playing at the time I I don't think that was ever really an issue um the heart I mean when you think about that unfit unmatch fit had two years off the most talented player I've ever seen yes so like you're just playing it yes I think um so yeah I don't think that would have lost any players no I mean but again I can't tell for sure I've asked for a few more questions who do you think wins the flag this year from Brandon Brandon I think Sydney is still the best team so I think you can't pick Sydney free man I reckon Freo just starting to move up I think Freo will finish second get a home home final and then go bang bang Grand Final on on freeo Zenith asks can HH give us odds on Andy leaving Freo at the end of his contract the and the odds on Andy leaving Freo at the end of his contract zero like you'd get a $101 for him staying and okay very good and Bri okay there you go Freo take that to the bank so when he tries to pull the go home card he just pull that out straight there this is what your brother said Bri says go home we're all here for Hammer no one's asking me any questions how many everyone's here where you going how many handwashes are on the cards at the end of this episode 15 at a minimum I think old Pooh hands brw shitty hands brw clapping his hands uh sorry [ __ ] his hands and clapping off the back of the ISAC he he still a chance hey I asked go about Jared scoffield and clearly he comes into the side at West Coast with he's dropped JD yeah yep he has dropped Jack darling thoughts um ah look I I don't think JD's been too bad to be fair no but I think Jared Scofield's coming in he's going to make CH got to make got to play the young fellas got to play everyone that you can that's under the age of 24 uh and that hasn't played you know as many games try comes back in dropped rothy rothy out dropped Chessa Chesser out dropped darling darling out out Zane TR is playing I think Harry Edwards is back in yes uh Edwards other Edwards Luke Edwards so there's some guys R comes back comes back in yeah there's guys that you have to see um I wonder if I'm not sure if you know this Andrew Gaff is three games away from alltime 300 Club so the AFL life membership right so preseason games included all the rest of it all that sort of stuff right comes together and if you hit 300 of those games it's AFL life membership so I play 194 yeah but I'm I'm in the 200 Club because of my preas game so gaff's uh two tickets every game forever y so he he's in gaff's two games away from AFL life member which gets you what I wonder no idea two better tickets probably it probably does tiet it probably does um so he's two games away he's three games away from that he's on 297 297 total games do you my question to you if you're Jared scoffield do you play him three more times you could just say if you're scoffield yeah if you're scoffield which you are do you play him three more times even as the Sub sub counts now start sub that's interesting oh no I'm airm yes airm yes I think the the fan base would burn down if they were playing Andrew Gaff I think they want the youth I think if they said hey guys on the back of all this respect stuff about Simo being whacked if you said hey this guy has been a champion for us for a long time we're not we're blooding all our young youth he's only going to be the sub but we are going to get him to that if they just came out and said we're getting him there yeah see I'd like that I think that'd be great I think it is a I don't care we get no it's not we okay thir Luke Edwards you're not you're not playing mate we're playing gaffy yep Luke Edwards okay so pick a guy that's going to get a contract next year what do you mean so okay Jeremy MCG no not Jeremy McGavin let's say for example who's a young player that's probably going to be on the list next year Brady Hoff Ruben jimy the boy yeah Reuben Rubes your GRS are cooked rubs your grins are cooked have a rest we're playing gaffy you're happy with that I'm I am more than happy with that what because I think or like dougo [ __ ] your body's about to break down mate have a week off gaffy you're in and say to the group boys this bloke he's going to be you know he's one of three players that we've ever had that'll get to this Milestone and he's done a lot for this footy club and we are going to get him we're going to honor him by getting him to AFL life membership okay very good uh yeah I think it's great I think true fitting uh form thanks to paywise for bringing him across the null Bo thanks to Jeremy McGavin for coming on the podcast I think we should go and hear from our friends at paywise and he from our friend Jeremy mcgoverin the all Australian hi I'm will and I'm a bman and I'm G and I'm a paywise brand ambassador and you're a Batman yes I am but I'm also a paywise brand ambassador and I know that the best way to get into your next car is through the paywise noad lease to learn more about novad leasing contact paywise today or just ask jerem mg you got the [Music] TCH you got the power don't know where they are all sorry T touch you're not getting your little socks yeah great you got my hat yeah you got Hammer's hat I'm wearing a back hat uh it does it's it's great um look as you would be aware if you've been strong fans the podcast we put together a bed every week for tab touch been average we've not gou have been just taking everything we we have not taken we have not taken their money we did the very first time we ever did a bed I think so awesome so we had a decision to make three weeks ago do we keep going down this line and I said we wouldn't y after last week and we did and we did well you've actually you've actually set the scene here I have so I'll take so can you just let me know what we're doing here for the tab touch back the bman so I I'll run through the last probably eight weeks it was a great idea to back the backman and we thought what better way to back the backman than just to put odds out tab touch collaboration that no player from an opposition team will kick three goals we thought [ __ ] perfect it lost every week repeatedly there were games though during the week there were no but there were games during the week that teams wouldn't kick three goals and it's like [ __ ] why didn't we get on those guys and there was no real Rhyme or reasoners to why it was just sort of a gut feel from us we were picking we were picking who we liked we were picking yeah anyway and then we thought oh let's get behind the back chat backman of the year later so we went to Brisbane and then someone kick three goals not on Harris Andrew that's backing our backman yeah backing our backman we need to back a whole back group we need back back men I've thought about it we thought about sacking this and going elsewhere yes but we're anything but disloyal we are loyal to the core and we are loyal to back men and women we have jumped back on the BET yes the way we' figured it out though actually put some work into we've used the JBS we've used the Jack Buckley system I thought to myself I've made a [ __ ] algorithm that tells you who the best defenders are every it tells you who is the best defender every week and we've been not even looking at it for this bet stupid what I've done I've gone back through last week's uh results yep uh did this on company time by the way so thank you Frank sh out the chat just before Frank sure you on the chat Frank did this on company time now just kid I didn't I took it I did it on the company computer took it home um so thank you cuz actually don't have a laptop outside of work anyway I took that home and we did this work and what we ended up going with is when you see that how I did it when you look at a team Sheet it has full back back pockets Center half back Center uh half back flanks yes half back flanks are too flashy for me they're not they're not Dow they don't come into account for the JBS yes but your Center half back does your back full back does does and I think you back pockets of Dow Defenders for the most part BL so what I've done is I've just gone through every all 18 clubs from last week and done the JBS for those listed starting four right the listed starting center halfback the listed starting halfback fly uh sorry fullback and the two back a while took a while took about an hour it was worth it though it's going to be worth it it's going to be worth it when we all win um so what I've done is I've calculated all of that and I've summed it up who's the team we're back in the Saints we're getting on the Saints getting on the sers the sers had the combined total of 18 points 18 JBS points was we talking Dall Howard talking DG we're talking Cal wil we're talking Jimmy Webster we're talking there was one other whose Name Escapes Me M Wang or no no no he was in he was uh I can't remember who it was it was another Dow operator um I'm go to the teams it could have been Wang M to be fair but he uh he was uplifted by the rest of them anyway they got a combined score of 18 and they got it done how many goals was your leading goal scorer for Sydney last week do you ask I I do ask that question two is that right we had a go on the Saints last week they get up and they win it is that so off the back of that we're backing in the Saints who are playing over in Adelaide it was Josh battle Josh battle there you go that was it was Josh battle uh they're playing in Adelaide yep they've got the Adelaide forward line no Isaac Ranken huge he could a kick four yes but he can't because you're not playing we suspended him for thissed exactly so they're playing Adelaide they're over there they have got the defense to do it no one from Adelaide kicks two sorry three corre yeah they might kick two but they three against Jack Buckley system backline go to the sports special uh special section on the tab Touch app download the app might want to have a look at it might be a little little special that might be a little might be a little how it could be a little special on there might be a little bit of how and this one I've actually we haven't just pluck this out of nowhere yes this is research based right so if this loses we're done we're done with this losers okay what's gambling costing you for free and confidential support call 1 1800 858 858 or visit gambling help online. Au .org do Au it's time for the back chat back [Music] page well I tell you what if we haven't seen enough media this week I don't know when we will the back chat back page not the [ __ ] front page like we saw on the west the back page and I thought I'd kick things off with a little special from our friends over at the West Australia our going west coast Eagles coach Adam Simpson admits players not shocked by his departure admits it like he wasn't interviewed about it he was in his press conference T got sacked uh outgoing West Coast coach Adam Simpson admits there were mix mixed emotions about his departure but says he doesn't think players were shocked when he when told decade long tenure had come to an end the Eagles hit the training track moments after the club announced it had parted ways with the 2018 Premiership coach and later fil uh filled a press conference fronted by Simpson CEO Don Pike and chair Paul Fitzpatrick on Tuesday there were no tears shed by the playing group who instead laughed and cheered as Simpson fired a parting shot to the media and delivered self-deprecating jokes in what could be his last address as Eagles coach Wow way oh [ __ ] me there's no tears that's good y uh NRL sharks versus tigers live Rudolph swipe at the AFL in turf war o talking about Opus probably no no different type of turf war in terms of whose Turf is it the Bloods or the you know whatever the other one is the Crips at Hensen Park we talking gangs well we're talking a bit more than that haven't L to this at Henson Park half erect AFL po s back is Marsh AFL post at hson Park half erected AFL post sit at either end of the ground a de demountable with AFL logo sits is there too but the ground is known as the spiritual home of the New Town Jets despite the AFL Presence at the ground sharks prop Toby Rudolph didn't even realize when asked about it on Thursday for the launch of the beer food and footy Festival firstly that's the first I've ever heard about it I didn't know about it he told the media [Music] they've been trying to take over Sydney for however many years now and that's not really working is it it's kind of like us the NRL down in Melbourne Melbourne's always going to be an AFL Town Sydney's always going to be a rugby league Town that's true they can try and dig their claws into in but New Town Jets is a foundation Club since 1908 people around here have been going to these games for a century I don't think a couple of demandable are going to do much about that so the reason I bring that up is the new town jets are soon to be the new town Bears because they've moved them away from that [ __ ] ground and they're over in wa you dumb [ __ ] so they have given up after 100 years they're gone ah NRL good job rugby oh they've done the AFL we've been digging our claws in there and they didn't [ __ ] get Isaac Heeney off old [ __ ] hands brayshaw is not happy about that one hold poop in his hands and clap brayshaw what about this one a little bit more serious former West Coast Defender Brad Shepard is launching a lawsuit against the AFL and his former Club following persistent issues relating to concussion Shephard who retired at the age of just 30 in 2021 is suing the league the Eagles and a pair of Club doctors Jared Taylor and Alex Strawn for medical negligence now 33 years of age shepher played 216 AV Games but unluckily missed out on West Coast 2018 Premiership thanks to will scoffield uh blah blah blah goes on about it so Shep is suing the AFL and the club he is I've seen that I think we might kill that for the back page yeah wowers um just to follow off on on that like I probably won't say too much don't sue me ship um me either please uh thoughts feelings well he's like yeah it's not great obviously I'm pretty sure his fiance wife is a doctor yeah so she I mean yeah she he's probably got a bit of medical understanding in the family but look he um he obviously feels hard done by and his life is like the thing about the concussion [ __ ] is that it ruins your life afterwards if it's bad yes and his is yes and like he can't look at a computer he can't do there's heaps of [ __ ] that he can't do anymore and like if you feel like you were un misdiagnosed or mistreated during your time and pushed onto doing other [ __ ] that has caused that I'd be rable obviously he is he's suing him yeah it'll be interesting it's a it's effectively a flagship type uh lawsuit that hasn't been done before so be like 800 people on that class AC there is but this one's a bit more specific across directly at at at doctors at the club in the AFL I don't think we've seen that in a personal nature so will be interesting we will follow along with interest uh here at back chat hey a couple of emails are com into you highly read it you sent it we highly read it thank you um hey Feeling by the way are you feeling like you need to go and take a bit of a I need a we at some point yeah but I'm then I'm going to have to [ __ ] and then grab it great on the way down great I'm looking forward to that good day Lads and Dan you reckon Simo has booked his flights up to Croatia for the next two months and come back to Adelaide dimmer Style just super tan also what do you think Simo actually wanted to say compared to what he did say in the press conferences cheers will my finger do yes it will firstly uh secondly that's the first time we've had a get Lads andan and you read the andan real quick on the end that was bit disappointing not the first time no but it's it's been it hasn't been a while it's been been reading maybe he's just been yeah it's been a while that we've had had a l of lads and Dan um what do I think about Simo what he wanted to say in the presser I would have given a like I would have loved to have just had a no B hey Simo here's a mic cuz like you weren't okay couple things wasn't Mutual no question it wasn't Mutual he got sacked no so he's T he's taking a bullet there he's taking a massive bullet he said cuz he's [ __ ] he's a loyal man correct and he's taking a bullet for the footy Club there yep no worries oh can you imagine what he wanted to say when [ __ ] said we want him to coach this week because he obviously didn't he's not coaching can you what oh imagine what he wanted to say then like are you sorry mate what the [ __ ] are you kidding me no [ __ ] o I don't want you're sacking me oh imagine that and then getting and then getting red up he you know when I so I know this was presented in the west as oh he was having some you know bit of banter back and forth uh with with you can tell when Simo is pissed off when he starts to quiver when the lip goes and if you watch that clip back his his lip starts going a bit that means he's yeah that means he's angry that's how he that's how he that's what he said to me after I called him ay saw that just really wanted to Belt me um oh he would I would have really liked it would have been great to just say here's an open mic for him for you like to Harley read you another email sure go for it hey dredges yep and Dan yeah it does say this by the way it actually say oh says dot dot dot ellipses uh Aiden chis long here yep Aden chis long eight inches long thank you do you think NBA locker rooms have the footy style showers and if they do do you think bronny James will share a shower with the [Laughter] BR so D Willie shower with his dad um well willly have socks on I I hate to break it to you 8 Ines football at AFL level is moving on from the old style real issue it's terrible you can actually pinpoint the you and I nearly literally we we nearly went to the board and said we need to tear these things down you can pinpoint the downfall the West Eagles got cubicles in there cuz we won 2018 before we went into before we went into La we went into Laine the showers at subie by the way for everyone who it was just it was W it was a room it was a big square and there was showers along the wall and I remember one time Louis jeda bringing a plastic chair into the middle and having all 15 showers or 16 showers pointed in the middle and he was just sitting there for about an hour so he used to do that a bit so we'd put him all on it' steam up so you couldn't see and then I was in there one time he did that and then he unloaded one of the soap dis fences all over the ground and he came sprinting from one end of the locker rooms and slid on his chest naked obviously on his chest and Dick straight into the far wall of the change room sorry keep going so that was what the old situation was that's the Old Situation fun times great times nothing better like hey mate like nothing better than just bonding with a boy good times bad times hey mate you played [ __ ] that's all right we're naked and we having we naked and we're having a shower then what happened and then they put the well not full cubicles but they it would have been better full full cubic would have been better they put these like blockades like little sort of [ __ ] posts were were screens screens boards sh screens you can't see I can look if I'm looking at the camera right there if it's me and you and I'm eyeballing your [ __ ] and balls I'm still talking to you and I'm looking down no question but if sco's right there could I can hear him but I got to poke out and have a look it was poor set up horrible set up and I was yeah I knew I had not a lot left to give in uh in my career for your issues to really take up yeah I had to pick and choose my battles and one of them was trying to get a game and not rip down the cubicles in the toilets but that was the downfall Ah that's very good but yeah I don't to back to the question 8 inches yes I don't think I think bronnie would be sharing with his dad in his Jo I want to I want to do a couple of things before you're going to go take a [ __ ] in clap in your hands it's going to be so annoying our path to Paris continues on Wednesdays um who have we got this week Jaden coming up relle Hawks is out this week sorry relle Hawks is out this week which we spoke about so make sure you go and listen to that great how's doing I saw sus O'Neil slide into our DMS did she sus O'Neil metam butterfly sliding into our DMS on back chat right and she and she told us how good the chat was so make sure you go and listen to that or watch that on how's my man s going s um fory yeah Mark Foreman uh going very very well uh doing tremendously you call him sir around around the traps no I haven't I mean it's a little bit disrespectful just I'd love you to roll with cir he doesn't know what it means bit sensitive for um come on yeah correct got to know what it means what sport could you do I want to tell you right now what's that if you had four years if the next year when's the next Olympics 2028 uh what sport are you going for you get or shooting R I think it's the most achievable CU you can go lock yourself in a room every day for 365 days a year for four years shoot at a Target you get good at it I'm getting pretty good at I don't reckon you can get good at 100 me Spring do you I mean like there's a there Talent would out ways yeah you got to have some people aren't born to shoot like you know no you're correct I would do either archery as or I would just eat like a [ __ ] truck get to 200 kilos and do shop put that's not bad you could probably big enough you prob you you you have to be bigger than two you have to be power would be the one though like if you could lock in um yeah so ask cir that question next time you see I will we have the derby show cir will be at the show Derby show l Hotel FR I'm going shake his hand and say good uh he will be there as will Friday night light 6 PR Dave mondy and myself live from the Leadville Hotel that'll be a derby preview go and buy tickets right now it will sell out backchat studios.com I can't wait any longer I've just been talking [ __ ] I've been thanking sponsors I've been going say byy tickets are we just going to do this yep let's do it [ __ ] hell wakey wakey over there he will not get awake uh mark my words if he does I'll shoot in my hands and clap all righty this is off this is the afl's tribunal system at the moment literal [ __ ] how did Isaac Keeney not get off he didn't do anything he's going to in the brown load and I said I'd [ __ ] in my hands and clap it's disgusting a hammer ew it's a [ __ ] in my head clap your dog [ __ ] you I kiding [ __ ] the IFL it stinks [ __ ] he will not get awake you are many things but one thing you are is a man of your word you actually shot in your hands and clapped okay full disclaimer that was not human pces I didn't literally [ __ ] in on in a public park um yeah there it is look you can see it [ __ ] squished oh look I uh oh that's bad yeah I didn't actually people are just dropping off the stream at this stage people are just running for the exits I didn't def about to start I think the footy just started just started I didn't actually [ __ ] on the in the park that was a dog poo that we found and picked up but that's as good as you getting from me uh I've yeah that's as good as you're going to get hey uh well done Hammer that was BL thanks to our sponsors paywise tab touch Shel Brewing Co whipper snapper whiskey ID athletic M digital West Plumbing camera electronic sign up as a VIP backchat studios.com I got a pink conert to get to [ __ ] yeah I wash my hands again byebye