Intro [Music] what is going on everybody hope everybody's having a great week if you have not already don't forget to subscribe down below we're in the B miss any sort of content cover to xbs at JJ in the evening join the conversation over there if you missed our recent episode of Slam session it's the hottest wrestling podcast on YouTube go to our playlist on our on our Channel click slam session you'll be able to check out any sort of episode that you might have missed well week one is finally done and TNF Preview over with that was a wild week one that had couple upsets in there had some teams that are you know hitting the panic button supposed to apparently hit the panic button um and then some teams like the two teams that went to the Super Bowl last year that looked just as good as they were last year if not better um so I there were a lot of takeaways there from week one but on to week two we have the bills and the Dolphins playing tomorrow night on Thursday Night Football there in Miami and you know Josh Allen put on the Superman cape last week um they they they were down there against Arizona 17 to3 and he led back come back there in the second half uh to end up winning that football game Miami also down there in week one against Jacksonville a Tyreek kill touchdown ends up saving the entire uh the entire game there really the punch out on that that led to the Tyreek Hill there um on the next drive that's what really sealed the game up but um so two teams had to come back and win boys how we feeling we got a little skin in the game uh here Tyler so I'm leaning on your expertise here well um talked about it a little bit before the show um Everyone Knows by now Miami just can't beat Josh Allen one time that they have in the past 12 games um was a week two a few years ago in the scorching Miami Heat Buffalo's sideline directly in the Heat Miami conveniently in the shade um we were driving down in the waning seconds and our receiver didn't make it out of bounds we went to clock it to uh stop the clock and time ran out and instead of having one second with a Josh Allen heave Josh Allen walked off and went and gave two a tag OFA a hug because both quarterbacks played their heart out um that's the one time they've beaten us um we've beat him in Buffalo in the snow we beat him in Miami uh in the regular season we've beat him in Buffalo in the postseason um they just can't beat Josh Allen um they had a chance to win the division last year in Miami final week of the year final game of the regular season and they choked that um they even had a lead in that game choked that lead away um because Tua just couldn't lead the offense to do anything bro couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag um if his life depended on it so um is Miami maybe the better team on paper yes but as I said um in the AFC East prediction video they got to play us and it's our division until it's not so I'm still going to take buffalo in this game no matter what some little nerdy expert might say on the internet well let me ask you this so Miami's favor by two and a half what what's what's the the score well what I've always heard is that uh HomeField Advantage counts for three points when you're looking at the spread so um I don't know um I I'm not sure Buffalo's offense I mean we uh we really spread the ball around um against Arizona and I know Jaylen Ramsey was kind of getting dogged on against Jacksonville so I'm not sure uh I'm not sure how Miami's defense performed as a whole um against Josiah and I's favorite quarterback Trevor Lawrence um so so I'm not exactly sure how their defense is looking coming in I know that you know they've got some injuries on the offensive side um but yeah I i' I'd like to see a typical like a 28 24 type game I think that's usually the range of what the bills and the Dolphins put up unless the the bills go out there like they did in 2021 and just kind of or uh 2020 and just kind of put up you know 40 on them you know I I I wouldn't mind that I I would actually I wouldn't feel bad for Miami you know I wouldn't feel bad if we put up a 70 to 20 like they did to the Broncos last year I you know I it would be um you wouldn't find me shedding a tear for Miami after all the [ __ ] that they've talked in the past few years just to come up empty you know wouldn't feel bad just like what do you think I know you got some I know you got some thoughts on this I'm coming Bills Dolphins man you make so many good points but I really really really really love an Underdog Story and I think Miami being at home right now will be an Underdog Story with that being said I've pulled up the last 10 games between the bills and the Dolphins dating back to November of 2019 and it's pretty obvious you I don't need to repeat what you said the bills are dominating in this matchup but look at some of how close some of these games are man 31 to 28 19 to 21 32 to 29 3431 2114 more or less it's a one- score game or less L when you take out the 37 to 20 the 56 to 26 the 35 to zero I mean because you know give credit where credit is due here's the thing here's what I'm looking at going forward in this game Josh Allen is clearly the better quarterback I don't think you can make an argument there two has got the better weapons I mean we saw the Buffalo defense come together in the second half and help climb that team back in the game against Arizona that was Kyler Murray with Marvin Harrison Jr and I couldn't even tell you anybody else that's out there right now that's how bad that team is and you guys struggle in the first half Miami is a team that you can't struggle against they're just they'll blow it up you're gonna put Let me let me talk I let you talk I let you talk let me talk let me talk I'm talking can I do the side like let me do the KLA Harris side ey real quick okay KLA you're speaking now you have the floor I I I I am speaking and I want to thank my opponents okay back to the track here guys Tua has Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Wadd who does Josh Allen have now Miami is going to be without moer it looks like uh they're going to be without H and too he's a game time decision there with that ankle injury did I pronounce his name right Josh aan oh you're an aan anyway they still got Jeff Wilson Jr they've still got this rookie that they're very excited about that could be in this game buffalo's defense is not a good defense I don't think we need to give them all the credit there they have not has have a they do not have as good as defense that they have in the past and I think I think it's going to show today or tomorrow excuse me it's going to show in the game because you're going to be in Miami it's going to be a loud crowd Tyler what is the Dolph or I'm sorry what is the Bills game plan to stop Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Wadd because you've been able to do it in the past with a great defense but now I I just don't know man we saw how much that defense struggled against Arizona Allen there's no doubt Allen's gonna have a great game I think this is gonna be a high-scoring game I think it's going to be a field goal or one- score game it's going to be like some scor gami like 37 to 29 you know it's going to be a crazy game I think it's going to be a really good one a lot of points scored and there's no doubt these offense are going to go off I I I think I slept on Jacksonville's defense a little too much but I I tell you right now Lawrence sucks but the Jackson defense played a lot better than I thought okay I like I hope you like that Josh it's gonna be an offensive shootout and at the end of the day Tua has the weapons to win the shootout that in this case Josh Allen does not what are they going to do to stop Tyreek Hill and Jaylen w um I don't know but I think I remember you saying that Miami is not a team that you can like start slow or struggle against but but what happened last year the last week of the year when when they had a lead going to half and and then they [ __ ] the bed with a division title on the line at home with the number two seed on the line and and who remind me who won that game cuz who wait who who who was the who was the quarterback that that threw a pick in the waning minutes of the game because they tried to fit a ball in to chase Claypool and they threw it like four yards to his left because I remember Tua doing that to Taylor rap and and I remember the call from the announcer was and that's a wrap um and I remember Buffalo actually taking the division and I remember you said that Buffalo doesn't have a good defense and you want to give Arizona all this credit but you remember when Buffalo was down 17 to3 and then Josh Allen he we scored right before the half and then our defense actually didn't give up a touchdown in the second half we actually outscored him 21 to3 um and it was actually our kick return we actually gave up a kick return touchdown so our defense actually kind of got their [ __ ] together and I'm just wondering like what has Miami done to get better to address the fact that they got to play us because I don't know what did they do they got rid of Joe Barry and they got um they got some [ __ ] bum they got Odell that's the bum that you're talking about Odell's an hold on hold on they got some [ __ ] bum as their defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver it says that he was the dline and the associate head coach of the Baltimore Ravens so what is there there's a reason therea okay let's hear it watch the shots all right there is a reason the Baltimore defense lost six coaches this off season because that's what happens when you have good defense Anthony Weaver is a great coach he's coached with us for a very long time I'm excited to see what he's gonna do in a full season in Miami but you're talking about oh whoa didn't didn't Miami have have the game in half and [ __ ] the bed yeah in [ __ ] January dude it's going to be 89 deg tomorrow this is prime to a weather in Miami with a very explosive offense I'm not discrediting I'm not discrediting Buffalo's offense they're gonna go toe-to-toe but both defenses suck they just suck I mean you lost big I'm not done you lost your big Christian defensive tackle there who went over to the Raiders right you lost Andrew van gingle who went to the Vikings and had a pick six on Daniel Jones this week Miami lost a lot of Defense too they never did resign xaven Howard he's got seven kids to pay for somebody signed this man so you got to understand both defenses are going to suck in this game I'm talking strictly none of these defens are going to be able to stop these two quarterbacks or offenses going head-to-head it's going to be a shootout it's going to be who has the ball in their hands last and in this situation it's going to be Tua with that offense end of the end of discussion but okay you say it's Prime two a weather so what happened in Buffalo last year on week four when we beat him 48 to 20 that was let me check uh football reference here does it fck [ __ ] say that the weather I don't know it was a [ __ ] October 1st in Orchard Park so I can figure it out October 1st last year in Buffalo yeah it's proba I'm guessing [ __ ] like 78 I don't know bud they ain't got the baseball reference would have the temperature football reference okay then then [ __ ] lacking but anyway what happened then oh oh oh it was 70 it was 70 degrees okay 71% humidity too all right the fact that we determine whether a quarterback is going to win a game or not based off the weather is absolutely insane and not even just like weather conditions temperature yeah temperature like every quarterback struggles there in the rain because the ball slips out of their hands you know or they they slip there on the field um if it's snowing obviously you're gonna be running the ball more often it's cold and that's why you play that bad yikes I I I'm I'm taking Buffalo too CMC Injury Niners have a bit of a problem on their hands um so about a month ago chrish mcaffrey was starting to get limited there in practice then wasn't practicing but it was for an injury and kind of the conversation surrounding it was just that they were being overly cautious they didn't want him to end up missing extended time there um in the regular season and then he misses week one and looks like he's not going to be playing now week two obviously Jordan Mason has a great game this past week but kind of weird you know that that we've been so vague on the whole thing and if if he's not seriously hurt he ended up saying apparently to Kyle Shanahan that if it was a playoff game that he could have played but because it was a regular season the doctors were not willing to clear him um so that tells me that obviously it's not 100% but where's that percentage at um and when do you kind of get to a point where okay now we're we're we're asking Brock to do a little bit or are we almost being overly cautious just to ensure that hey Brock can work with a little bit last year uh and still end up producing at a higher level because Chris McCaffrey after Trent Williams was out last year and Debo was out he was still able to win well I guess Trent hna BL in I think two of his games but lost de and and and still end up winning those games losing mcaffrey and still winning like they did there on Monday night at least for me answered some questions if he continues to do that over the next few weeks I'm I think I'm almost holding mcaffrey back just so I can make sure that Brock pry is the guy I want to pay at the end of the season because he's G be do a contract I don't know what you guys think about that so I think P's asked I don't think I need to tell you how I feel about that as for the Christian mcaffrey playing in a good enough playing a playoff game any NFL player in their right mind who's making as much money as they are will play an NFL game if they're 85% even 75% compared to a regular season game obviously the 49ers didn't miss him so I don't see a big deal about it let the man rest let him heal up he's not the only running back hurt like I said we were talking about the ones in the Dolphins game Kenneth Walker's out with an oblique injury running backs are getting injured but Josh this is no this is nothing new we had this whole conversation last year about the stability of a running back how much it's worth paying and it's cheaper to have three solid options than one super good guy who's always hurtt unless you're the Eagles saquon Barkley worked out really well so I think mcaffry is gonna be fine if he says he's good to play I trust him he he went back to practice last week and was a last minute game time decision even though they told the backup Friday he was gonna play doesn't matter mcaffry is gonna be fine the 49ers got a couple easy schedules so let him get through it let him get his rest and they'll be just fine the 49ers will still be two and 0 three and0 maybe even four and0 before mcaffry returns as for the bed as for the bed guys because you you know you told me you wanted me to take Caleb Williams on the under right that's what we agree on Tyler is that we agree on yeah I think if you want to keep keep on yapping then yeah fantastic of course I I would love to because they play the Houston Texans and his under is 219 and if he couldn't put up more than 100 on Tennessee ain't no way in hell he's putting up more than 100 on the Texans man more than a hundred the the under is 219 that's easy money I'll throw under 219 I could see but no no no don't back out now you're the one who's talking about these these uh two and a half Point favorites or make a big difference I I could see him going under 219 now you're finally taking my side because of where the BET says it is let's just talk under 219 wait a sec let just talk facts Caleb Williams is trash and he is gonna be under 219 right now $20 where's the camera at can you guys see that [ __ ] pays out 38 boom bet placed we're gonna make big money I'm gonna use these $38 to buy a Miami Dolphins t-shirt so I can come on here Friday and flip you both up next Friday yes of course or Monday whatever comes first depends how quickly I can get a shirt I can go to Meer and get a hat so I'm sure I could find a shirt at Rally House or some well so Tyler are are you are you in that same thing there with like like did Brock pry not tell you anything there or show you anything there on Monday night without m because Josiah is acting like that that did nothing for him cry like burrow is a system quarterback Tyler go ahead I'll be honest I didn't watch it I was asleep to bad understandable man we had to work the next day I was asleep after the second quarter well so I guess what what are you looking for then at Brock pie Tua vs. Purdy if because everybody says you know he's winning all the time I I I've have been in the camp I think he's a right-handed uh version of of Tua like in terms of how he produces I think that he's you the the whole Bryce young comp like I I I definitely don't want to end up you know losing that at all because I was 100% right on that but the the K roua and and perie I think comes from the system and the amount of guys around them now Miami's about to figure out what Tua is sure they have t Hill and Jaylen wad there on the team long term that's going to basically beat the entire offense and and and while that may kind of already be the case now the offensive Line's going to come down you're not going to end up getting a blocking tight end either the Run game I think that system kind of runs through through running backs you're gonna be fine with pie it's kind of that same setup the only difference is a lot of these guys are older so p is supposed to be the the you know the guy that's almost leading the charge here for the next group as well that's why they paid auk um I was looking for him to have a a good game there without maccaffrey and if I I I understand that he had a little bit of time there to throw the ball but if the Jets defense is supposed to be as good as everybody says that it is and and that's the only reason why you would think they'd be a Super Bowl contender in the first place I have to then think that Brock pie end up having a very impressive game and and answer some questions can I chip in yeah all right Tyler I know you got so much you want to say about this game you slept through uh but I need to say this because the way Josh is slinging these words is complete bogus you know you were impressed with how pry played without mcaffrey you I could think of another quarterback who played very impressive when they didn't have lindani and Tomlinson and when they didn't have Austin Eckler and that's Philip Rivers and that's exactly what you're looking at Philip Rivers was a system quarterback developed by the Chargers they were a great team great talent but Philip Rivers didn't system quarterback then right me finish let me finish I'm talking side Philip Rivers did not win the charges of Super Bowl he went to Indianapolis gr he was old completely [ __ ] the bed just like Matt Ryan did is Matt Ryan a system quarterback are we back on the Matt Ryan's overrated train let's go two2 [ __ ] but listen when it comes down to it C's a system quarterback he's never gonna win a Super Bowl and it doesn't matter what pie you put out there the 49ers going to win because they got great talent around that team you could put Baker Mayfield and win a Super Bowl I'm doubling tripling quadrupling down on that statement and I will continue to Okay Tyler go ahead um something that I'm looking at looking at the comparison between Tua and Brock is it seems like that Tua is successful with Tyreek and Jaylen wad because one of them goes in between the hash marks and Tu makes a 15 yard pass and then it's Off to the Races that's when it seems like they're the most dangerous is when you know they do that [ __ ] and they just Dink and dunk [ __ ] you know 22 yards here [ __ ] 20 yards there 25 there 30 there and then eventually they're just going to [ __ ] break one you know or eventually they're going to hit you over the over the [ __ ] top of the top of the field for like a 55 y I don't I don't know but and then it seems like the San Francisco offense is successful because guys are always in motion like they use they utilize the Run game a lot more with you know obviously Christian mcaffrey catching it out of the out of the back field than they do in Miami but I don't know that was a bunch of [ __ ] word solad uh what I'm looking at right now is the the passing from last year and I'm looking at the intended air yards per ass per [ __ ] per ass attempt per pass attempt so whether it was completed or not uh [ __ ] you laughing about huh I'm thinking about the per asset temp that's yeah peret temp got a little ring to it all right so so will Levis in only nine games he was averaging 10.6 air yards per aetp and uh so he was number one CJ strad was number two at nine J Allen was 8.7 Herz 8.7 herie was 8.2 Tua was all the way down damn eight 7.7 down there with the [ __ ] Matt Stafford and Justin herberts and the [ __ ] Bryce Youngs of the world so I don't know man I just think that [ __ ] it seems like two is a damn [ __ ] 15 yard over the middle [ __ ] Dink and dunk just let [ __ ] reek and jayen WD do the damn do the dirty and you know pry I I've said on this show before I don't watch much NFC football I can't watch football like that if it don't like if it's not a major game or if my team's not in it I really gotta be like interested to watch it I don't know man do do you guys think I'm [ __ ] like uh do you guys think that there's something there like do you think What offense do you think is more dependent on their wide receivers and their Playmakers uh rather than their quarterbacks do you think that's a good question do you think that like both quarterbacks would succeed in the others system yeah you know what I got it I'm gonna say this really smart so Josh can't troll me later I'm going to say for a quarterback strictly being based on players is Tua in Miami and here's why because the 49ers great Playmakers great team plug-and-play quarterback to to go win a Super Bowl pry won't win one though but they've got Kyle Shanahan and this is a guy that Josh has had tremendous respect for for years now I've got respect for him you got a great coach you got a great GM and John Lynch you got a lot of great things working for the 49ers you got history I mean every 10 15 years no matter who they have they're making a Super Bowl run they haven't gotten that sixth yet but they will eventually if they get rid of pting but for that specific reason Tua and the Dolphins definitely rely more on The Playmakers because when you have a great coach you can find great Playmakers whereas Tua we know as a cheat code with Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Wadd finally if you were to swap both quarterbacks I think Tua has much more success in the 49er system than he would in the dolphin system Josh go ahead you said two would have more success in San Francisco system that the weather's better out there well Josh Rosen would win a Super Bowl with the 49ers you know what Nathan Peterman would win a Super Bowl with the 49ers that's how much I am on this great coach great system no because if that's the case then Jimmy Garoppolo or Brock py would have end up winning because those quarterbacks are better than than Nathan all due respect I always thought Garoppolo was overrated and injury-prone well he was definitely injury-prone I don't think he was overrated I think he was closer to a c quarterback I think per is a b maybe he's closer to a B minus and than a full B but I I I I I just thought about that but I I I think he is closer to to a be than anything um P's not my top 10 or my top 15 he's better than Tua Brock p is 100% better than than Tua no I'm gonna say no on that one buddy wow hey Tyler can you pull up a side by-side comparison of perie and Tua and see what we're looking at yeah I don't know if they got per it won't even matter I mean it's well let's see let's let the stat boy decide that that's why we brought him on here so when you make your B claims he can back up to show me why I'm right there we go so I'm gonna share this I want you to see who's at the bottom here well this is damn dam in the [ __ ] 6.4 what the hell they mahs too that's good company Ms too yeah Mahomes got a bunch of [ __ ] convicts out there running routes man look at that all right anyway let's get this [ __ ] on here almost like that was actually a good stat for Joe burrow right there appreciate that man shut up Josh [ __ ] compare we got less than three minutes just an FYI guys so this figure I know how to do it on I just go to stat Muse and put them next to each other St Muse was the [ __ ] man it is it still is it still is but I don't have the subscription anymore I used to um but then I got information I'll send you the password I got it what yeah I've had it since we started the show I thought you had like when when I when I uh canceled my service I actually wrote an apology in my thing I was like it was never it's not your fault like I found an app that was that that was free that was you know similar to it I appreciate you I cancel my PFF because they were just they jumped the price from $5 a month to $25 a month to do these fantasy drafts get the out of here yeah that's crazy all right here we go here we go 223 uh so two would definitely pass more same completion percentage one extra game because py was resting in week 17 yeah so you would you would probably assume that touchdown interception ratio is better average is better pass rating is better yeah so so jiah I'm gon tell you right now you don't have an argument he beats him in every C you I don't need to remind you that P's 11 interceptions five of them came against Baltimore keep that in mind for help my argument so so 31 and six against everybody else no because I last I saw Tua can beat Baltimore very easily actually with making incredible comebacks okay I mean Brock Brock py can win playoff games I don't think Tua can do that because he has to go plate in a CO he's got he's got to do what I got to do whenever I end up shoveling snow wear five sets of gloves and your hands are still cold look at the end of the day Josh I'm looking at these numbers and and they're very similar I think you can make case both these quarterbacks are the same but we got 50 seconds so if you want to fight about till the timer goes out be my guest perie sucks Caleb Williams sucks Miami's going to beat Buffalo deamar Hamlin love you buddy HUD day trade Jamar that's right I'm on that train now trade Jamar don't pull that up I don't want to see this that looking real good I don't want to look at this yeah yeah better than pie right Josh that's what I'm see right now it's against the division rival if we were watch pie is going to throw py against the Rams look it up pie four interceptions against the Seahawks book it Closing [Music] [Music] [Music] a