(EP.568) JIM JONES ON PODCAST AND CHILL WITH MAC G & SOL (OFFICIAL VIDEO) REACTION

what's up YouTube Welcome Back to the channel y'all let's go and let's get it we got podcast and chill up on Deck y'all let's go and let's get it man I'm excited getting this this is episode 568 when the guys was over in America y'all let's go and let's get it man I'm extremely excited of getting this because a lot of you guys have been being patient one of my man you been on me you like Vern react to the Jim Jones episode so I'm excited to get into it we got Jim Jones on podcast and chill all the way from the motherland to America all the way from America to the motherland simple as that let's go and let's get it the biggest the biggest the number one podcast out of South Africa let's go and let's get it episode 568 Jim Jones balling let's go let's get it yo Jimmy you do not look like you want to be here bro someone yo Jimmy you look like you don't want to be here first of all you call this [ __ ] Jimmy but his full name hold on we got to get into this I already know this about to be lit hey thank you for all the chillers for allowing me to chill with y'all and thank y'all for being patient for this one y'all let's go and let's get it you you have to do that Park they're the biggest podcast in Africa you have to be there I never look like I want to be nowhere man you got to part of me but congratulations to yall having the biggest podcast in Africa that that that's very big Africa being one of the biggest continents in the world a lot of people over there he do look nice a lot of [ __ ] he look very nice line but he do look like that in all his videos so he correct but let's go let's get it I love how open [ __ ] is like hey they keeping it big like did your people tell you to get on this just for police no no we really lit they about to turn this up this about to be lit let's go let's get it I'm sorry no man why you so tired bro crazy weekend I've been working all weekend shows different states traveling trains automobiles you know how it be a little bit too much partying yeah road kill he said it's tough but what's up how y'all feeling I'm good bro I literally saw um um I saw your video uh yesterday for your new single the one you shot in Miami two turn temp yeah how you feel about it bro that [ __ ] is lit man looks like a Vibe bro cuz we've been to Miami myself and my partner but we never like experienced the Miami night life we were playing in Florida yeah we're DJing in Florida but two South Africans like the diaspora then West Palm Beach as well you're DJ also yeah like what type of music you're DJ I'm a piano on a piano yeah oh so that's not a DJ you playing the piano that's crazy that is crazy he like in my piano you playing the P oh this is about to be dope because this is making me realize I got a big purpose man I got to let everybody in [ __ ] world know about South Africa and how yall really getting down though I just love this this is authentic we got to take it back we got to he said you put in the piano but that's what most [ __ ] a think that's funny let's go W you DJ also yeah Toano I'm a piano on a piano yeah oh so that's not a DJ you playing the piano what it's a genre no no cuz I'm a piano even you heard it like you saw he did the whole key thing it has nothing to do with piano that's where it started but it's nothing to do with it these days when when I met Charan he did the exact same thing he's like oh so you're a podcaster I'm like yeah and then you DJs so I'm like no I play on my piano he's like you're a Pian man you want talented [ __ ] hold on hey if I know that interview's up so I'm looking for that right after this I'm going for the Charlamagne and our boy m g simple as that cuz I know that was lit but let's go music man what kind of genre is that like it's like slowed down house music with a lot of South African influence that's the only way I can describe it so it's a it's a mix of a marriage house yeah marriage of house music which originated here at Chicago and stuff and then we slowed it down created a sub genre called guo where guys were sort of rapping but very minimalist raps called guo and the kids were born like in the 2000s late '90s then created a whole mesh up of those two genres and it's called a whole piano a lot of Americans think it's um afob beats it's not afob beats yeah a lot of the H hey you know what man I appreciate y'all man y' I'm talking too much but that's what the reaction for but let's go and let's get it man I really appreciate cuz he broke it down for me like I got to run it back simple as that this is the example I'm using for now on when I explaining my piano [ __ ] let's go called quo where guys was sort of rapping but very minimalist raps called quo and the kids were born like in the 2000s late '90s then created a whole meshup of those two genres and it's called a piano aot a lot of Americans think it's um afro beat it's not afro beats yeah a lot of the hence I avoided saying afro beats cuz afro beats is from Nigeria and I'm piano is far from afro beats e beat borrows from am piano Now where's am piano originated from South South Africa from the hoods yeah but when I when I was looking at your video bro uh the only thing in my mind was like bro what's a night like out with Jim Jones bro cuz that [ __ ] looked lit there were [ __ ] everywhere bro um please please describe it night out in Miami with Jim so let's say we're going to Miami right now I mean some nice is better than others but been doing it so long it's kind of like the the bare minimum for us to do in Miami and just having fun but it still work at the same time like every every I'm I'm not just going out partying for no reason nice like that was we knew what we was kind of getting into we wanted to film a video so we knew we was going to ramp it up a bit take it to the to the highest form we going crazy as we could but that actually happened to fall on a big weekend um and one of my dudes was celebrating so everything kind of happened for a reason but yeah Miami could take you for take you for a few a few trips man like okay so so so me and you we get in the car right I'm like yo Jim Jones I'm in Miami i h cuz you got a house there you stay there right yeah I got I got I got cribs there so I'm like yo Jim Jones I'm by the strip you know that Miami strip right yeah yeah yeah I mean see that's the thing about Miami when you come to visit Miami that's where people are Norm at like the strip and things like that I guess stand by Collins and Ocean Drive and all that people that live there don't really do the strip like that you just you dig people congregate usually at night time and all the spots that usually go on down there okay so we got security obviously you got to roll around with security right um yeah I mean that' be the safest thing for me to do so we get out the car with security when we get to the bounces are they letting us in cuz it's Jim Jones or are they checking our IDs cuz they've been checking our IDs just to buy beer here bro check your ID everywhere yeah everywhere yeah no I I don't think I produce my ID and since I was a teenager at clubs but yeah you won't need your ID when you with me so we walking in right yeah we going to get in oh do we have a section yeah they going to give us a section SE VIP yeah they going to give us a section we going to get some bottles and let the night ensue got think called Power Hour and go to the club maybe like 2:45 to 3:45 in and out no that's crazy and that's so true y'all um it's it's definitely I never knew it was called Power Hour but my first time going on in Miami and I could never understand in the bigger city like why the hell do the celebrities don't they don't come out till 2: 3 in the morning for real they don't come out till that time and it's crazy cuz it's like be at the club at 99 10 11 wait in 5 hours you tired drunk you don't even want to see the [ __ ] and they do exactly what he said just pop in and pop out they know for that in America y'all for real for real whole finesse up maybe like 245 hold on he said it's called Power Hour D this facts y'all this is definitely facts let's go yeah they going to give us a section we going to get some bottles and let the night ensue got this thing called Power Hour you go to the club maybe like 2:45 the 3:45 in and out no sweat so what's the what's the purpose of that exercise the Power Hour yeah like why would you be in the cloud for an hour why would I be in a club for 4 hours it's far I mean I've been part I've been partying since I've been 14 I've been making money to party since I've been 18 I'm kind of burnt out so at this point I try to wait till the club is at the most popping or lest moment which is usually that hour right there and I get to enjoy everything that happened T night and leave out of there and I be all burnt out smart what what does your wife say bro cuz you're married man you surrounded by all these girls hold on I got to PIV for getting that he said that that's cuz he ain't letting the cat out the bag they really be big time celebrities like meet millon them [ __ ] they pop in the club for one hour singing rap two songs and then get up out of there and made a whole bag whole finesse so you got to be careful on that hold on we gotta go back because you know Mt about to get real questioning so at this point I try to wait till the club is at the most popping or lest moment which is usually that hour right there and I get to enjoy everything that happened tonight and leave out of there and not be all burnt out smart what what does your wife say bro cuz you're married man you surrounded by all these girls like you know I mean I don't worry about the women yeah and it's minimal to the money worry about the money more so so a woman doesn't like give you grief when you come home I yeah you get you get grief all the time if you're in a relationship no matter what you do if you had a job on Wall Street you get home you're going to get grief way around it you heard there's wom everywhere unless you work in the LGBT Club then you know mean even there you still going to go home and get like it's no way around you going to get I mean like yeah so you've never had like been home and you had to explain like yo no man I was just doing music vide just work like I don't know that you're going to explain yourself in every relationship and things like that I got a good woman at home who understands the job I have and things like that so for the most part but for the most part I'm a very responsible respectable person when when I'm in the streets and when I do have to interact with females and things like that yeah anyway H ladies and gentlemen welcome to another special edition of podcasting chill so CU yeah I am here we're chilling with the [ __ ] Legend the kings of Harlem please make some noise for Jim I got to say bro I gotta say bro I'm G to be honest with you when I found out your name waso geloo gelo I'm like I'm like Jim Joe's losing some G points here man what the [ __ ] is that not losing some G points this [ __ ] said g gjo hold on what is hold on we got to run this back when I find out your name was guo I'm like I'm like Jim Joe's losing some G points here man what the [ __ ] is that I'm Puerto Rican in the rubyan my pops is Puerto Rican the word gjo means William in English is a Spanish Spanish name cuz you know what I was thinking I was thinking that guy who does the show late night you know the short guy who does like the interviews with um this late night comedian man one of the late night shows oh man not uh I'm bad with these oh gosh the late night guy bro something not C o' Brien not Trevor Noah the other American guy man like uh old new no he's like Jimmy Kim Jimmy Kim Jimmy hey that's exactly what I was thinking but I got Jimmy old new no he's like Jimmy Kim Jimmy Kimel Jimmy he's got that he's got that short guy his name is julo I don't even I don't I don't got got me messed up I don't even really watch TV like that bro okay I'll be out chasing the money he talking about the short Mexican guy that be in Jimmy Kimo movies I mean not movie but skits and [ __ ] sad not Li but let's go I ain't even got time to do that in the and if I do got some time I'm trying to get a little bit of rest or I'm thinking about money [ __ ] is crucial out here right now you better get to your dollar a lot of [ __ ] about to happen and if you ain't got no coins boy you going to be [ __ ] up you ever been to uh Puerto Rico yeah I've been y I'm sorry for for keep pausing but this is big facts if you don't get your [ __ ] together in the next man you got less than [ __ ] 36 months for real next two three years shit's about to get real over here in America and you already know they be they really be hating on us in the motherland so you know [ __ ] going to get tough in the motherland too but y'all got it good but we still just got to be prepared for the worst cuz never know what can happen simple as that but let's go my bad this crucial out here right now you better get to your dollar a lot of [ __ ] about to happen and if you you ain't got no coins boy you're going to be [ __ ] up you ever been to uh Puerto Rico yeah I've been to Puerto Rico plenty of times yeah but business not for the Heritage part of it so like you don't know where like your your parents were at I'm familiar of the place where my father's from but I never really got to do the whole go to give with my family understand the roots understand you know I mean like I didn't get to get to that part of it but I've been to Puerto Rico plenty of times you find like that's important like to know right it's definitely important I had this um I did an interview not too long ago about um how important the roots are and get to know where my family from know I mean so we'll start to do that pretty soon so so your dad you know you know your dad right yeah he's passed away oh okay God bless rest in peace what happened to him he passed away yeah like was it um medical thing or yeah natural caes oh damn like when you're young or um maybe when I was uh 23 24 oh damn bro sorry to hear that man maybe 26 right before my son passed right before my God bless right before my son was born bro but you like 47 right now I look good for 47y old man no homo you know what I mean thank you very much like what's keeping you looking so good is it the yoga yeah a lot of yoga a lot of Pilates I stay in shape um I'm very uh very big on Fitness um work out like five six times a week um it's one of the best ways to stay young and have better chances of living a long life is that why you do it or maybe there's other purpose like you know a lot of people are in gym for their mental health I mean it's very it's very it's very therapeutic I will say that but my main goal is to look good of course but to give me better chances to living forever bro so how you got into rap um I don't know correct me if I'm wrong right but used to skip church and go to the train station to to rap like no I never skipped Church to go in the train station to rap I skip church to go to the train station to go play video games and run the streets and do everything a bad little kid did from the streets of holl when we was like 7 8 and n and things like that I don't know if you know about anything about the subway system in New York but that's the pathway system that gets you to all five burrows and we definitely was on the subway which maybe we shouldn't have been but we was a H um for me rapping actually rapping didn't start later on in life to actually uh C it um they said got a deal and things like that and that was the first time me myself really thought about actually rapping cuz I'll be honest with you like um dipet I don't really know much about dipet however I know about you guys individually like Cameron old boy is like one of my favorite songs uh jul sna had hear that was Kev and jul he both old boy and yeah why don't you jump on those tracks man those tracks are mive was already done I was there for the making of both of them incredible tracks yeah and then how did dipit start start like how did you guys start the whole movement um organically kiss him Harem growing up together um I need you to listen to me [Music] something really bad happened you remember Louis folie from High kids Cam and Mason BL [ __ ] was they ready was doing music um Everybody gradu graduated high school I didn't get to go to college they went to college they got kicked out they got kicked out they come moved in with me from that that was a uh foundation for them to dive into their music you've been in the game for like 20 30 odd years right been in the game for since 1997 how would you describe the different eras of like um hip-hop right especially now cuz um 1997 he been in the game since most of been alive simple as that some of y'all [ __ ] was born in 1997 that is crazy let's go let's get it real OG real legend simple as that let's go let's get it obviously we all all know about the Kendrick dear song they're not like us but I didn't know how big it was until I landed in in in America and it's like it's like a movement shoot the video yeah it's like huge it's massive bro yeah it's a big record Kendrick did that shout out to Kendrick shout out to my boy Drake but what do you think about like the evolution of hip-hop in all the different areas you've been a part of what do you mean what do I think about it it's a great thing to be a part of something that um you can only dream of everybody doesn't get a chance to be in this game um I've been fortunate enough to be here for so many genres and errors and seen so many people come and go I've watched the smallest artist to the biggest artist who you thought would be here forever now gone um I got stories for days I can tell you about um how I feel about it I feel great I feel blessed you know what I mean I feel lucky this [ __ ] don't it's not promised and for me to still be here is definitely a blessing so in the '90s what was the Vibe like man like like in the '90s as far as what in hip-hop yeah it was it was different um '90s was a great era um one of my favorite errors um that was the era we first came outside um thoughted to get ideal very aggressive era uh no social media um cell phones were just being born um everything that you seen you was something that you could grab on to um artists had to go to the towns we couldn't just get on your phone and music you had to go get you couldn't just have access to it so that he is part of the evolution he's part of the evolvement man and he's seen it and that's the crazy part cuz I seen the phones just change how they did you know I remember AOL internet you know before we got to we used to have to be patient to now everything's like this I remember L but the thing is like I respect OG's like cuz they seen it all not only the [ __ ] we didn't seen and they're still keeping up with the world they didn't seen stuff prior to us cuz they're olding us and like I say man life is growing and involving each and every day we should be too simple as that I love cuz he involved man for real for real let's go it was it it was a hunt um we had to touch the chanels kiss babies do radio everything like it was just a different who was around like during that time when you who was around like Tupac was did you like meet Tupac Tac I didn't get to meet Tupac um Tupac passed away what 95 was that yeah right big in '97 um now I got to see Tupac do a few times in h um that was dope but um I Tri I pass away before we got to get in the record game but I've seen a lot of a lot of artists in my time from a young age to old age we were partying in clubs as teenagers before we even got a record deal and things like that like we were in clubs since high school and [ __ ] like that so and interactions with Big L he was from Harlem right yeah shouts to Big L Big L was definitely from Harlem um 139th NFL Big L um I was one of Cam's uh close friends um actually put cam on a dope record that started to give uh Cam and bloodshed and her mcre her was already popping to but got gave him some notice when it came to R so when you come out like who's who's popping at that time is it gunit is it Mob D it's way before G when we came out I was like Eminem just try oh [ __ ] this Slim Shady not em like Slim Shady I remember that that was like cam had dropped and Eminem had dropped DMX had dropped Nori had dropped Big Pun had dropped Chris L had just started coming out um ell Ellie down down baby yeah shout outs to coola love um damn yeah that type of error shouts to bust shouts to Fat Joe shouts to Buster they was already in it uh Nas was already in it Jay start going crazy that's when he just started taking over with the 1 million 2 million 3 million 4 um yeah very competitive very edgy um a lot of the big dogs um had real roots in the streets um especially in the streets of New York so that put that put a real mque on everything when it came to the music um all events with Top Notch um it just was a different feel man it was a heavy heavy dope boy era um this was before the drug dealers wanted to be rappers this when the rappers wanted to be drug dealers yeah you know what I mean and and that errow was a very dope high impact trenel and rushing it was a was a great era bro I S into it was like a movie real I'm telling you them [ __ ] that grew up back in the day they that's what he talking about right there that real de life [ __ ] that [ __ ] was like a movie man when Street [ __ ] was like we all looked up to the street Heroes we looked up and wanted to be them when they was the real I don't want to say that type of word but like gods and stuff he talking about back in the day for real for real but let's go let's get it man some of y'all may be a little too young and some of Y already know what I'm talking about but let's Bo you did corre me if I'm wrong be paraphrasing but you mentioned I wasn't trying to say God I was trying to say Hood Heroes that's what I was trying to say my bad but let's go a place called the tunnel or something where everybody would be and you guys were [ __ ] [ __ ] in the bathrooms please describe that greatest cuz a place like that couldn't exist right now bro the greatest Club ever yeah and the canc know but I would say it was probably the greatest Club the hip hoppers ever seen and it was during the 90s era it was the Golden Era um in New York they got he stories about like Studio 54 in that era when everybody used all a biggest a big used to go to Studio 54 well the tunnel was what Studio 54 was to that era to our era and it it mix so many people and nationalities and genres and just everybody was like a big po Gumbo all for the sake of the culture you had some of the flyest models to some of the biggest drug dealers biggest gang bangers I mean every for of elic street life you could think of was in the spot along with the biggest artists and rappers and actors and models that you can find and all athletes um yeah it would definitely like that um and was this like per invite or just like anybody could Rock up there n you couldn't just rock up there this is '90s entry was like $100 first of all $100 for a club that was the first time we ever heard of it and that was a lot of money back then especially we probably started in '94 going near teenager so $100 was St a lot of money in New York at the time sneakers wasn't even costing $100 um to get in the club you definitely had to be connected to know somebody or you had to wait on a long line that usually was a block long um they had like an Express line you could pay $100 to get on Express line that'll get you to the door quicker and then you pay your entry fee um streets was blocked off he was a big dog you was able to bring your cars down there I was able to bring like four five of them if I wanted to um yeah the club was just it was different man pull up to the door security they taking people's shoes off they searching your jacket twisting people inside out like they about to go into rers Island I got to I gave security high fives I never took my shoes off and not since high school when we used to go in high school we used to get our shoes taken off and things like that make you feel like you going to sental bookings and [ __ ] like that so what gave you that clout that allowed you to bring four cars in when nobody or you had to be a big dog to bring four cars in when you could just give them a high five instead of removing your shoes and you're young by then like what gives you that CL I was the big dog is a small pup bro yeah man what give you those you know credentials at such a young age to supp all these people cuz Dr Trey was there yeah you're putting in four cars not removing shoes I was a good L biding citizen everybody love Jim [Music] Jones even even the girls like you just rock up this say let's go to the bathroom that's it yeah now that I well yeah there was a lot of that going on on they had a the layout was different first of all the club was a block long a whole city block um wow there was like three other four other clubs within the club or spots that look like clubs um the main floor was humongously big the DJ was like a a lifeguard Tower in the middle of the club um you go upstairs they had a VI big VIP upstairs and then go through a door it open up to the bathroom the bathroom was like a un sex club had a big ass bar in the middle of the bathroom uh bunches wow like [ __ ] is really lit in NYC simple is that man this is crazy just off his like the way is this isra come on bathroom bar in the bathroom really stay stay drunk 24/7 simple as that let's go stalls lined up um that [ __ ] was like a hotel inside lines cocaine everything yeah they was going down a lot of sex was going down there a lot of a lot of drugs was going down in there um yeah the tunnel was definitely uh a landmark to New York City when it comes to the clubs I I definitely um always think about that club um it did a lot for me in my life um it gave me a lot of imagination when it came to the culture and the things I was seeing from a young age as to where I want to be in the direction I want to go yeah we was going this since high school so when you seeing people like Mike Tyson and all these people coming in big jury on and just having their way A kid got got to go to school the next morning you in school think about that [ __ ] like why man this school [ __ ] [ __ ] this school I need some money and I need to go to the tunnel that's all I want to [ __ ] do that's wild man now can you imagine because we Ina right we're looking at all the videos that you got are pulling out there like we're looking at this lifestyle and then he F Track to 2024 right mhm and the P didy thing breaks out right I mean I rather not even to get into that just don't I rather the do I don't you know I mean like it's not it's not my business oh you I mean like just you heard God bless it's too much n yeah and it's not me to have an opinion on certain things cuz I ain't perfect I've been through my own [ __ ] in life yeah I see a lot of people that have even doing too much just know that I ain't perfect so I choose not to talk certain [ __ ] that you know I mean a lot of other people been talking about I let them keep doing the talking I got other [ __ ] to work on I'm trying to work on me being a better person yeah I respect I respect that man but were you even part of any gang or like you sound like the FED never hey what on the FED sou Africa he said hey gang hey gang you sound like 911 you sound straight like the feds [ __ ] ask that question he got to know how to M got to know how to eat it but I think M just extremely nervous right now he's like got a Les this is one of his favorite this is so big for him right now and he's just trying to be cool cuz he's just I think he a little intimidated like cuz it doesn't look like Jim Jones enjoying this but Jim Jones Just A og like that man OG sometimes [ __ ] just be looking cranky but you see how he was talking about the whole history and everything going on he's looking up like he's looking read oh he really enjoying he's enjoying his stuff but M just got to chill a little bit let's go but were you even part of any gang or like you sound like the F never hey what on the F sou Africa mans I'm just playing with you yeah I've been affiliated with the bloods in New York City um entree yeah um yeah bro it's so crazy have you ever been to sa like have you ever been to Africa or um I've been to Africa wait where did you go um Gabon damn gab perform there um I want to perform there but uh got some great friends there they actually had ran the country at the time this was before big yeah yeah overtaking and stuff like that but I had a ball out there I got to go to an island called poting me um that was a dope experience as they took me to the jungles I got to see some of the indigenous people um it was like a a real um life Awakening TR and I got to see how also the rich people live out there also like I got to see both sides that you know what I mean it was it was a great experience I out there for like a week um I haven't been back since but yeah it was dope you never been to South Africa never been sou afria bro so the reason why I asked that is because like yo bro like American culture has infiltrated South Africa like you can't believe like you know we got people worshiping you guys you know Jim Jones rappers and everything so we've got rappers who rap just like you and you'd say they're like Bloods and Crips but they've never they've never left sa you know cuz that's how influential uh the culture is right but from you when you see or hear that like what do you guys think like do you think it's like some [ __ ] like or like leave don't don't follow the gang life you know what I mean um oh as far as that is concerned um get you some money two sides to that get you some money this is what you do as a gang member that turns into something that becomes a crime or whatever that but the Brotherhood part of it is what the most of us joined up for when we coming up in the hood and need that Brotherhood and lean on somebody is that type of camaraderie that pretty much stood for and there's a lot of other great attributes that comes with affiliation of you becoming a part of a gang um it gets twisted up because we all come up in these urban communities and our back is against the wall we don't have no opportunities um very dormant uh we on top of each other so naturally testosterone testosterone wins in a lot of these situations where these kids findel in bad situations and for that I would tell people to kind of stay away from this type of life um I don't want to oppose my will we all going to experience what we going to experience but I can't tell you the consequences to this type of life that could be very dear you heard E A lot of people don't get to make it where I made it and Escape that lifestyle that could have put me away or could have put me in the dirt I mean so I'm hit basically said a lot of [ __ ] could have retired he basically retired he made it out man so and it's not it's not for everybody and it's not for nobody but some people boring it totime you got to do what you got to do man and we all deal different cars just how we um play them simple as that man but hey we not promoting no violence and if you is man some people got to step man but I pray that if you are if you getting influence that you just move step differently and don't get influenced by their own [ __ ] man simple as that man cuz it can just put an end it can just speed life up for you and we don't want that let's go as a Living testament to tell you that these consequences are terrible the odds on you making it out of that life in a positive manner are very slim I mean but if you are in that life and you taking it as a Brotherhood and try to uplift your brothers I know there's a lot of people around you that are doing a lot of [ __ ] that that that that that's very crazy you know I mean if you're a part of that and you got the positive monster then you try to uplift your brother and instill some positivity within them because it's very cold out here so I've always been curious bro like so when that when you you you start getting immersed you know or Affiliated in the gang life how does that affect the conversation at home with your parents like your mom your dad and just the domestic you know Dynamics I a't even growing my parents I was a grown man I was like 15 I made my money since I was like 16 my grandmother left me in high school I was raising my sisters by myself in a project so I hustle every do I ever got in my life that's why music saved my life I was so grateful to be able to be next to cam and him getting a deal at such a very young age to be able to still be making money off that [ __ ] right now you were NR for one uh music group yeah I was the director of a for war music group um years ago uh shouts to Kevin L shouts to Leo K forgive me the opportunity um great opportunity I excelled at it extremely very young with a lot of power but didn't understand what I had at hand um didn't have too many people in my corner that were telling me the things that I should have been doing with that type of position as opposed to certain type of weird way be hating I mean so that's what happened but as you get older you learn you learn move on who who did you discover while you were in that position uh I would tell you a story I I know I've helped tra songs uh become the tra songs that you know today he's always in hey he's always in we know why oh I wish we had somebody to check fact that that's big statements he said trigger come on man hold on big statements oh y i i I know I've helped tra song uh he come tra songs that you know today he's always iny he's always in we know why what do you mean by help like couple tracks more like I want to know man I want to know sorry y'all no n well he was a young kid at the time and uh they were actually going to cut him from the label we had a big uh um it's like uh one of them uh some events that doing not the talent shows the uh it was something like that all the artists had to come perform and then they pretty much didn't know that they was on a chop in Black at the time when I was an executive and he was one of the artists that they were going to cut and I remember Kevin L specifically ask me what we should do with him I'm about to cut him I don't know what to do with him and when I heard him uh singing and I saw him perform I was like this is this is one artist you should keep and did that and now we all trck songs on so dope ass records is it true you could have signed Drake yeah I had a chance to sign uh I had a chance to do business with Drake um through Allan Grumble um when I was doing business at cotch um it was a different errow I didn't understand with Drake I didn't understand the whole the whole thing his whole look when he show me who it was and things like that yeah he's not like us yeah yeah yeah man yeah it's understand everybody going my God I understand the hate man the hate is so phenomenal it's just how this game go man this game is so tricky man these [ __ ] just like females in this game we ain't going to get into that man there's a lot of uh but wait wait wait so so with Drake like are you are you seeing him perform like try songs or like you just heard of the guy just a conversation Alan call me siging a kid let me hear some of his music um and I was like the kid know how to rap but I don't know what to do with him his image is crazy and couple years later heard him on Wheezy mixtape going crazy was like wow this kid is about to go whammo inside of this business and he sure did Andy I'm trying to call wezy like yo man I got to get that kid or something n he was already signed a young money and jcole did you missing jcole as well I could have sign jcole bro J Cole's in the studio with me every day and at that point jcole I he he remind me of he said Jimmy a knockoff Drake and not to say it like that but that's who he sounded like he came to my studio every day rapping to these Drake beats rapping like Drake Cadence like Drake he could rrap his ass off yeah yeah you heard yeah but it was already a drake out there he had the Caesar it was different like two light [ __ ] might not k D but you never know what you got in front of you man you dig and those are lessons I I've took with me to moving forward when I see artists and and I hey artists I always give them more than just hearing just just I got to I got to I got to try to capture the whole picture I make sure I just don't you mean so I don't miss nothing else cuz I missed a few people and I've helped a few people um gain a lot of success in in my time in this industry whether it been by me having a meeting with them or me having an influence on them or you know I mean so you know and there's never like any animosity like Jake Cole or Drake never came up to be like yo you could have signed me look at me now bro I mean me and Drake is cool as [ __ ] um I see J Cole I don't think he I mean I don't think that's no car some [ __ ] he might keep to himself not to be like that sh the cold yeah he not that type of artist he's not mean yeah you dig I look I look at as we can see I want to mention an artist who like I'm really fond of like I think this guy's [ __ ] amazing musically talented everything that he touched like turned to Gold who's that uh kid Cy bro kid Cy yeah yeah did you help him with his career yeah I'm birth kid cutting wow jimy I said jimy ma is killing me with that so bro Earth them nobody would know who kid Cy was at all if I didn't jump on his remix record but it wasn't even remix he wasn't even a nobody like I tell a story all the time I had a intern that used to work for me said he got some dudes that do videos they were like to do a video for me told them come let me see they work they show me their videos the first video they showed me was of the kid Cy record he's on the top of a roof some simple video the record sound more wavy than that opportunity for them to do a video I'm like well if you give me the beat to this record I'll remix this record and then y can shoot the video to that record wow and that's what they did and then um the radio station ripped the record off of YouTube and start playing it at Hot 97 and K Cy was born bro what do you think especially about kid Cy cuz from him when I listen to mus music right it wasn't no no other kid Cy record besides the one that I was on yeah man he's not in they don't play his records where I be at at all not to be funny wow and we listen to them like all that day and night you know yeah it's the only record I know unless it's like a pop record that everybody know and I and I'm not paying attention to it but he don't his records don't get played nowhere that I be at they nice about all I know of off the top of the head for real for real y y let me know in the comments what y'all think let's go like that unless I go into a different farm and that's the type of music they playing one of these funny clubs that play fist pump music and pop music yeah F pum not into like you dig like they don't play his music in the clubs I'll be at maybe in Vegas and [ __ ] like that but that's not they not pumping the [ __ ] in live they're not pumping the [ __ ] in Atlanta they not pumping this [ __ ] down the staff room or or you know I mean like they I'm not saying nothing like that but I don't hear it in the strip clubs I don't hear like you know what I mean so but he's a very successful person you with some of the race like Kanye to put him in a position to win and [ __ ] like that and I think he's way more better as a actor than he is a musician and that's just my POS that's just my opinion he did I seen him in the movie uh about the race car [ __ ] where he was F the playe like he got a lot of Charisma and [ __ ] like that on camera for what I can see and [ __ ] like yall know the movie he talking about please put it in the comments cuz I don't suppose that but let's go just find the pl like he got lot of Charisma and [ __ ] like that on on camera for what I can see and [ __ ] like that you know what I mean bro I mean for you as Jim Jones to to see these kids you're introduced to them by an intern and then to hop onto that song it's something selfless you know to just give these unknown kids an opportunity of sharing a song with you where do you think that selflessness comes from I'm that unknown kid I'm still an unknown kid anytime I get an opportunity that's the opportunity I should be able to give to somebody else bro the fact that you could even come to pod shout out man yeah man you didn't even know us exactly what you're saying yeah bro what's his name I don't it's F you he knew his name was U but so so puka but he said what's his name that's he said I don't just keeping it in the bill that you could even come to our part car shout out man yeah man you don't even know exactly what you're saying yeah bro know what's his name I don't it's fine you know who did the video for video you I remember I remember like that kids that got the biggest African podcast I'm definitely going is my guys right there appreciate I really mean that that sincerely and [ __ ] like that you know what I mean I I bumped too many people in my life and been across too many people in my journey actually remember everybody's name but the face and the cause and I mean bro I want to understand right the first time you came up with the concept for Love and& Hip Hop where were you what was happening um that was something like uh me and Christy she had opportunity to do uh her own reality show um and actually fell through and that kind of she was kind of she wanted to do that I can see she was eager about doing that when it fell through kind you know mean [ __ ] with her mood and [ __ ] like that so so so so the initial concept what was it was just Chrissy just showing like what's life the initial concept was about she had her own thing going on about a group of women that was supposed to do a reality show had nothing to do with me yeah that [ __ ] fell through she lost that opportunity to end up not going people have been begging me to do reality TV for past couple years at the time and I and you react to TV gold man I refused to do it yeah and then when that happened I was like all right I got I'll do this for you and we'll make it about you and females that have to that are involved with artist such as myself and show what the relationship side is when you're dealing with a high-profile artist and you know what I mean hold on so Jim Jones to help create Love and Hip Hop like I need to know I need to know I'm learning from this too so I know y'all learning let's go that have to that are involved with artists such as myself and show what the relationship side is when you're dealing with a high-profile artist and you know what I mean how so that's how that started bro and that thing became a monster super monster like it's still big till this day bro 100% so do you have like uh ownership in in that we we really control that um at that time maybe the second season we just in a position where we refuse to compromise our dignity for anyone or any dollar and sometimes it be like that you know what I mean um but ain't no stress off my back took my hat to him you but but we got to talk about that cuz you see like this podcast um it's blackowned right it's just me and a couple of other people that are involved in the podcast right and we is striving for ownership so a lot of um Brands and investors have come to try to buy the podcast and we say no cuz like we believe in ownership and telling the story the way we want to tell it right so what went wrong in that because as a hustler I believe like that's your also end goal mhm um it was a something that I was just a lot of different layers and [ __ ] like that and I was too worried about doing other things and we had an opportunity to gain all ownership 50% of the whole TV show and all that but it still wasn't worth GE bro that's insane just lick go like that yeah a br chop didn't know Jim Jones created or helped created or was a part of the creation of Ling hip hop stop playing let's go bro there is no love and& hip-hop without you bro I still got a brain you heard yeah those are for people that don't have a brain that lack creativity people that Ste things from you lack what you don't have yeah remember that yeah whe it's money whe it's creativity whatever it is they lack what you don't have ultimately they steal from you you heard I mean we didn't even know C beef wasn't for L and& hip hop right yeah yeah fre game they lack what they don't have so ultimately they going to steal it from you come on man steal things from you lack what you don't have remember that yeah whether it's money what it's creativity whatever it is they lack what you don't have ultimately they steal from you you heard I mean we didn't even know C it beef if it wasn't for Love and Hip Hop right yeah yeah yeah definitely yeah bro you give birth to so many people man like by their careers that's the G it that is crazy we got a real Emoji they got this is one of Mac favorite podcast cuz this is one of my favorite podcast like favorite episodes favorite interviews sorry I forgot cardi B came for love of Hip Hop we wouldn't had black and yellow wouldn't have nothing red about none of that if it wasn't for [ __ ] Jim Jones man [ __ ] better start giving this [ __ ] his flowers man I ain't know I ain't going cap I need to give one more of his F cuz I'm a big fan of [ __ ] camon simple as that and I've been wondering like why what's the beef why did not accept no more you know it don't even matter everybody in their own lane everybody did what they did for the culture and [ __ ] need to start giving flowers we need to give this [ __ ] Jim Jones FL cuz without him we wouldn't have cardi b and a lot of other [ __ ] simple as that y'all let's go and let's get it that's big facts and that's big facts all the way from the motherland to America that's why I'm always going to be good yeah GE man so any other shows that you're working on like in the pipeline that you want to dozy I was telling I'm working on um a late night show late night um a late night variety show live in studio audience hopefully we'll be filming in about 40 to 60 days um beautiful concept I do I do believe people going enjoy the show um like I was saying I can't do um a podcast is too personal for me and [ __ ] like that and me watching these podcasts um dealing with these artists me myself don't have the temperament for it you know what I mean um I I [ __ ] I tip my hat to y'all to have to deal with artists such as myself cuz you never know what type of mood they going to come in you know what I me some of these artists have a air to them where they feel like they better than most and they would never sit and have tea with the with the maintenance guy you heard me myself me maintenance guy going to smoke blunts before I get on stage difference my life and and and and currently uh before we let you go man what do you think about the state of hip-hop cuz like statistically numbers wise it's not looking good man uh e beats played all over newk there now the Pian this is this is what they want you to do this is how to get us to go against each other It's all under the same culture umbrella the afro music I'm a piano I'm a piano explain that what do you mean by that R&B what do you mean by that ultimately it's all from under the same origin and creativity of the same person from the same color as all our thing nah but let's be honest Jimmy hip-hop hasn't involved bro when I was listening to Eminem what do you want mean what do you mean hip-hop hasn't evolved you guys are still rapping about the same stuff you you missing the point of what hip-hop is yeah hip-hop has evolved to a point that you can be the music genres you're talking about can be noticed you think that if there was a hip-hop that I'm a piano would be noticed or afro Beach will be noticed think about that and not to take nothing away from yall because you always have culture and yes that music might be big within the continent of Africa right but to cross over to American Fame and commercialism you don't think that the hip-hop culture played a big part in that that's that that's a different argument now you want to have a different argument I'm telling you the semantics of where we going with this you dig like you talking about uh the the hip-hop music is damn percentage that's how they want us to think when it's really not cuz we all uplifting each other you heard you think that the country music that's going on in the black people winning is not because of the hip-hop culture no no no I think no one is disputing that however that when you say hip-hop numbers are down and down for who no no I'm talking about I I know what you talking about but down for who tell me who it's down for cuz I'm still making the money I make yeah I do believe there's still a lot of artist that's making a shitload of money that they make I don't think it went down for them yeah you know what I mean but I understand what you talking about they say the numbers and then rock and roll genre might be up like I don't really you heard like that's I'm into this a business you heard and it's always up for us you heard cuz this is a business we make money out of nothing it's never a downside to this and that's why I love music that's why I love hip-hop and you hear what he said we make money out of nothing man for real I respect all artists I respect all because they got a talent where they can put that pad put that pencil to the pad and put their emotions and feelings and the words and track and make music and multiple people can relate to it that's talent that's gift man and that's why I really love it man it's magic all artists they they just chefs they be cooking up like nasty seat simple as that y'all let's go let's get it like I don't really you heard like that's I'm into this business you heard and it's always up for us you heard cuz this is a business we make money out of nothing it's never a downside to this okay and and that's why I'm saying I think we're having two different conversations here cuz the conversation I'm having is I'm having I'm having right is that in as much as he's saying yeah the numbers are down cuz they orchestrated and whatever I get that right but also that's why I asked do you think Hip-hop has evolved cuz I grew up on hip-hop right and the same things um quote unquote you guys are rapping about in the '90s how can how can hip-hop evolve in the same thing that Africa been Africa been going on since the '90s aren't yall going still going through the same thing we are huh we are so how could the music evolve when the music reflects the time okay get you tell real stories what you want us to rap about [ __ ] that that we don't have ah we talk about [ __ ] we dream about all the time that's the good The Good Life the color is the Rose we talk talk a [ __ ] talk Jim Jones this is real facts I love how like I love how the OG's defending hip-hop right now and it's big facts he like what what else do you want us to talk about this is what we see every [ __ ] want that nice car that chain that watch them Hood trophies y'all let's go let's get it how could the music evolve when the music reflects the time ah okay get you real stor what you want us to rap about [ __ ] that that we don't have we talk about [ __ ] we dream about all the time that's the good The Good Life the colorin the r we talk about but the truth is how the music going to change when our position hasn't changed we still going through the same [ __ ] we've been going through okay and y'all being from Africa should know that more than we know that yeah that's fact big facts it's [ __ ] cycle we in y'all we got to break the chains we got to free yourself man let's go let's get it y'all being from Africa should know that more than we know that yeah that's fact that's fact gold own gold own yeah yeah yeah yeah know W bro that's a valid fact but how do you feel man like you've come from an era where you guys when what you you said in your rap I mean evolved as far as addiction as far as what we rap about cuz we still stuck in the same place but as a business it has evolve to one of big time yeah yeah biggest big time money making machines you can attach yourself to this Mak some of the richest individuals whether you're the rapper the lawyer the executive like that's true the you know what I mean the supply chain then I think that's why you know when you get the likes of a West coming out like Kendrick Lamar they stand out like a sore thumb because like they are rapping about but that's what music is about to stand out for those who don't want to look like every body they don't get nowhere why you think dip was so successful successful yeah because we stood out on purpose we don't want to look like or hit a sound like no one else we want youall to above all see us when we walk in the building and hear us when we get on that [ __ ] mic you heard why were you guys the diplomats I never like where did that come from the diplomats the name the diplomats yeah we diplomats oh ah okay sounded cool no we diplomats we are har diplomats and we take it as that you heard we go to the Embassy when we land in country y all right okay okay I I sort of get that bro so in the business and how you still making money right now like from music just like how is it royalties Dam you asking a lot of questions bro I want to know bro I'm so I've got so many questions I want to ask you bro I'll tell you this music is supposed to be used so you can make as much ancillary dollars as you can because the music ain't promised everybody 15 minutes of fame ranges from a small 15 minutes of fame to a run like we having within that minute the 15 minutes of fame you better do a lot of other things to secure your bag because music is not going to be thing you be able to get paid off forever unless you're the Jes and the J that's not even 1% that's you know what I mean so you think about that so you better have some hustle you better learn how to you better have some business sense you better put your credit in order you better do a few things to secure you if you are artist [ __ ] Lage powerful yeah man how do you feel man when these kids these days rap about you know trying to act tough and rap about stuff they never done like you guys red about stuff you live I mean I do believe a lot of these kids are going through a lot of [ __ ] that we went through and then a lot of the kids are talking about [ __ ] that they see but most of the kids are all growing up in the same community that all of that [ __ ] is going on so who tells them they don't have the right to talk about [ __ ] that they not doing when that's still [ __ ] that they're saying oh sure Ah that's powerful but the problem I have a problem when they rapping like they did it but they just rapping from somebody else's Vantage Point understand that but most of these artists that you've seen in the game some of your favorite artists been rapping like they did it they never have they never tried none of that [ __ ] till they got famous FS big FS well so it's possible Jay never sold Coke or something I mean I don't know about that possibility I'm pretty firm in his in in his music that I'm a believer that he did some of that [ __ ] he talk about me I don't know you possibilities are possibilities some things just seemed correct you know mean I can't tell you for sure cuz it is music you know what I mean but something seem correct [ __ ] man bro you got to come out to his say man you got to we know we haven't had a proper uh hip-hop concert in they say like since 50 N since you come on back to the city do concerts man ah those are for old people they bring empd artist in South Africa right Hip-Hop Hip-Hop uh there's a guy called nesty but nesy came here he doesn't even know hey who who he say first nasty C stop playing aka the Shelf stop playing stop playing uh there's a guy called nesy stop playing but nesy came here with f poopa who's that n f Nigerian West African artist mive he used to pop not now for real massive because than like B boyo still it's different type of music oh stadium is 50 60,000 people like what always got a following this gu what's his name f poip f po I don't know him bro he's from Nigeria yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah pretty pretty big yeah humongous bro how big was was 50 Cent bro like during his Reign man like how big was 507 [ __ ] retardedly big it wasn't nothing bigger than him just was Drake before Drake was dring he was oh [ __ ] he did it like it was like 50 was on a run that he never even touched the club bro like [ __ ] never seen him in the club you only did Arenas I never knew too many artists that just did that you dig like the [ __ ] was super massive every [ __ ] re came out with was was going platinum and I'm just telling you the facts you heard I always got to speak factual matter how I feel about a person a [ __ ] was on top Super on top it was no way to knock him off his d i remember Jay-Z dropped the this track on you did you guys resolve that beef I think you were not happy with them as the president of Dev jam oh man um we never really had a beef um we had some feuds back and forth through the situations that were going on over other people um and me being who I am I had to hold my ground um but to know that he actually talked about me in multiple of his records mean that I was pretty big in his eyes you dig cuz I didn't hear him talk about too many people in his career and if he did talk you talk about you on the record that meant something you know what I mean and I was done so for me that I I I took that like what it was like you dig like yeah J doesn't respond took the time out to say my name if I'm if I'm not that big of a deal to you you would never ever am am I right talk about a person you heard true it's it's a form of respect and acknowledgement 100% am I right in saying a lot of [ __ ] are scared of Jay-Z bro cuz we interviewed D mean I don't I don't know I'm not a lot of [ __ ] you heard I'm a man so I couldn't I couldn't tell you that you heard I ain't scared to nobody but God and the dentist and everybody will tell you that that DST he said God and the dentist Jim Jones is smooth I mean I don't I don't know I'm not a lot of [ __ ] you heard I'm a man so I couldn't I couldn't tell you that you heard I ain't scared of nobody but God and the dentist and everybody will tell you that that dentist yeah dentist got me there you can walk in you can walk we about to fight right now a dentist walk in you got it got it you got it bow down you got it I don't want no smoke me get out of here M of fact bro Jimmy before you go man uh what beef did you have so you had some beef with Jay-Z right no man I just told you we had some feuds stemming that's beef bro stemming from other things that were going on um I probably like it was all part of Us coming up in the game and things were happening we were sign a Rockefeller cam was sign a Rockefeller actually then we got an opportunity to Diplomat record some the split between uh Jay and Dame came um artist took sides some took the Jay side some took the the D side which side were you on we was on the Dame side Dash yeah D Dash do you think Dame Dash is misunderstood bro huh you think Dame Dash is misunderstood um not for his own good if you have the opportunity again sometimes being the smallest person in the room could be held against you especially when you want everybody to know that you're the smartest person yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I get give a second chance would you still sign with Dam never you would never whoa I never signed a Dame at all that no no no I sided with him took his side oh give a second chance I wouldn't have sided with none of them I would we would have minded our [ __ ] business but you learned that with age yeah you heard we had no business butting into that because it wasn't a street beef and this wasn't some [ __ ] that had to do with us ultimately we were holding our [ __ ] down and [ __ ] like that but business-wise if we would if we knew what we knew now we would let them get into that they s y'all can handle that because we got records to put out and music to make and we got our own record label to run you dig and this my hinder what we got going on by us taking size and that's why I tell people now even when people seeing all the Diplomat [ __ ] like y bro don't don't get in to takeing sze with me and my bro because you never know how that might end up and if it end up to a point where we do figure out our situation then I'm looking at you funny now me and you got forever you heard you dig and there plenty people that did that and plenty people that did it and plenty people that showed the same amount of love that they showed to me that they showed the cam when we were going through uh imaginary situations and [ __ ] like that cuz it's all imaginary when you know you can figure it out now there was one G that was about a saying that like don't just be in people's business when especially when they beef and take sides cuz and I I had to learn that a lot I had took me a long time to learn that because of how we come up in the codes that they supposedly treat us and teachers in the street and [ __ ] like that but sometimes that's not the smallest thing that we can do and then uh push a te did you have beef with him nah that was some [ __ ] that we was on record um he did some [ __ ] I did some [ __ ] he did that was it I never follow that I didn't even know did you know there was a pusher T I ain't got no I don't know I know you're from I know you're from Africa and [ __ ] like that but people don't play with me yeah for real and I don't I don't play with people I know yall from the motherland and [ __ ] but [ __ ] don't play with me and I don't play with people vill on his thug thug on his ganger on his G [ __ ] push your te I Ain got no just know I don't know I know your from I know you're from Africa and [ __ ] like that but people don't play with me yeah for real and I don't I don't play with people it's ain't no playground you heard this is the street it's two ways don't get caught up in a yellow line it's going to be hard to cross bro yeah you heard no I don't trust me I'm from Africa but I saw what happened at the airport so escalated [ __ ] that was self-defense man God yo bro it looked like that guy was just oh I do remember that video that is funny that is funny he said that [ __ ] escalated fast J Jes did pipe up real quick you heard no don't trust me I'm from Africa but I saw what happened at the airport so that escalated [ __ ] that was self-defense man yo bro it looked like that guy was just messing with you bro I wish that could have never happened cuz I was trying to avoid that by all CA but [ __ ] happen sometime man you dig and definitely not not going to allow anybody to do anything to me at all bro when I saw that video right like I don't know I just met you today right but I saw when you lifted that guy from the escalator threw him down he literally just went on survival mode bro like it's like there was a button that you switched on and you was just like I don't [ __ ] care but yeah yeah no I mean no that's a button that I choose not to push you heard yeah exactly like you can go there quickly I choose to show strength for a lot of reasons in my life I got one of them buttons I choose not to push that [ __ ] cuz once I press it it's like a rocket [ __ ] it didn't took off ain't no coming back man and I understand what he coming from man but hey we got to also know I know how to control M so you don't know how to control yours get the control support that but let's go we almost do this y'all let's go and sometimes it's hard to you dig but where I'm at in life right now I choose positivity over all the other things that come out my way because I know how it is to be negative I was once that negative person that was very aggressive and ready to do something to you over the minimal alistic of things and [ __ ] like that so I'm blessed to be here to try to be able to show strength and so so the guy so the guy at the airport you guys on the same plane yeah we on the same plane so you don't have a private jet no I don't have a private jet I'm not a rich man come on Jimmy you made so much money over the years but anyway so you're in the plane what's he what's this guy saying to you like um I don't know man just [ __ ] happens I don't know just the started from the plane just know that what you see happen on the on so it starts on the plane you restrain yourself you're like all right cool my dog say whatever you want to say yeah when he gets to the airport I mean the escalator that's when I think he starts hitting you or something right yeah something like that he tried to do something like that so we we see man but like I said this is not something that I want to glorify it's not you think he knows who you are um if if he didn't he know now no I'm sorry see sorry CU some people just provoke you cuz they know who you I believe he was he was trolling a little bit and things like that which is cool you know I mean I'm if if you in New York 9 times 10 you do know who I am so you know I believe it was a bit of that but God bless man hopefully that they all right hopefully the old man um cool you dig like are you spiritual cuz you mentioned God a lot man yeah I'm very spiritual very spiritual very spiritual I've been my whole family is spiritual and what does that mean in an American sense cuz um us as Africans for me it means a lot of different things um I was told I was told what the church was as a young age as they drag you to church every Sunday your grandmother with your moms and your family and things like that and you really don't understand what that is from that young but as you get older and you go through certain things and you make it through certain things you understand that I just got a question how many of your grandparents dragged y to church like he just said when you was younger cuz my grandma did let's go what that is from that young but as you get older and you go through certain things and you make it through certain things you understand that there is a God and everybody has a relationship with their God different and sometimes going to church doesn't mean that you love your God any less or he loves you any less you dig and you say spiritual I'm very spiritual I say my prayers as much as I can sometimes two three four times in a day you dig doesn't take away from what I do and who I am because I'm still in the line of everything else everybody's in but I know every day that I'm able to wake up and every day I'm able to make a dollar and every day I'm able to keep living the life that I am I should be thankful you heard cuz that's not just me that's a higher vibration that's definitely a God you diging I'm well aware that I've escaped many things in life that Lord knows I should not be here but then again I should be here cuz he put me here for a reason he gives it's toughest battles to strongest people what the Bible say you heard and I've made it through some very tough battles which are minimal to some of the people that I had next to me in their battles you know what I mean so it's like we all got to figure it out Jim Jones thank you so much God give his toughest battle to his strongest people so for any y'all that feel like it's lot in your back feel like you can't get it through just know God chose you to make it through simple way simple as that and the only way through it is through it simple as that but let's go let's get it one more time I've made it through some very tough battles which are minimal to some of the people that I had next to me in their battles you know what I mean so it's like we all got to figure it out Jones thank you so much man and thanks to God for bringing you here man definitely I appreciate making time for us bro thank you man appreciate you you tired when you got you I appreciate the fact that you could even make it man got any last question yeah man bro you said you've gone through some tough battles and you mentioned how you lost your dad at like 26 but also that you you pretty much raised yourself from the age of 15 you know from that relationship or lack of it like has it affected how you father your children 100% it's made me the best father I could be but me my relationship with my father was always a great one even though he wasn't there because every day he wasn't there I loved them even more I wasn't one of them kids that was bitter you did got to understand that everybody went through something and at that age what he was going through there was a lot of drug addiction and I knew that from a very young age h what drugs was and how they were tearing up my family I never held that against my father and I was just blessed able to get back with him before he passed away so he can see that his son was making something out of himself at that time I was already signed to her uh think we just got the Rockefeller deal so it was a very big deal for me to be able to get back with my father to show him that he's somebody that you should be proud of and I know him looking down right now I got be like damn I did that so you know and that's how I feel and then in turn try came my son I don't you know what I mean like I just you know I pride myself on making sure that I turn my son into somebody that was way better than I could have a be yeah that's my guy shout out to you man is your son still wearing Crocs you bro yeah he's a Croc guy you heard yeah Crocs for Life CR for Life jumping out the be with a fresh PIR of Crocs on I don't understand him Jimmy before you go your top five rappers all time my top five rappers all you got to give us the top five bro yeah Tupac definitely Jay-Z Drake um Drake us said by default of course [Music] um rock cam no Eminem No whoa not even bigy from NY that's and not to take nothing away from him he's extremely nice it's [ __ ] nice when it comes to rap but I listen to artist that kind of you know what I mean do something for the life that I live and kind of what I've been through and most of these artists artists that I'm talking about people that you know I mean like or n better stop hating on my boy Drake all of a sudden Drake I I get it you a like us let's not do that you got to give us the top five bro yeah Tupac definitely JayZ Drake um Drake he not like us said by default of course um rock cam no Eminem No whoa not even biggie from NY that's and not to take nothing away from him he's extremely nice is retardedly nice when it comes to rap but I listen to artist that kind of you know I mean do something for the life that I live and kind of what I've been through and most of these artists are artists that I'm talking about that you know I mean like Nas better stop hating on my boy Drake all of a sudden all Drake SL I I get it you ain't like us let's not do that let's not forget the 15 years he been spanking [ __ ] around this [ __ ] all all all over this [ __ ] all the Aly he been giving most of these artists that are now seeming to be turning on them let's you know some of them gave him their best hits let's not forget the big picture here and [ __ ] like but what the Hip Hop culture and this game is built on competition so yeah but what what is he with it you heard you better put your best foot forward but what has Drake giv back to the culture that you so love here we go um what is's he giving back to the culture I seen him take a lot of people on tour and turn them even richer than they already was I I seen him give a lot of people hits that they would have never had if he wouldn't have got record things for the culture that wouldn't have happened in turn records that we would have never knew about records that the culture love and things like that I mean he's not from here Canada from the hood I don't believe he owes America too much but the monster they giving back to where he's from maybe we should ask about what has he done in Canada giv back to his community as opposed to giving back to the culture of the United States when this is not he's from and I think that's the Divide right there now if we talk about what he's done in Canada and if it's not up to par then maybe we can talk about oh you dig but that's I think that's for the people of Canada you dig like yeah CU but it's the people of America in the hood who made him of course you heard but but that he didn't grow up in America he didn't grw up here you heard so if you was an artist from Africa yeah like bur boy yeah do you think burn boy responsibility what do it for Niger United n I'm taking it back home bro super duper big yes but that's what people that will call a culture vulture cuz you come into a space you know do what the people of that space do benefit from them it's it's is you understand what we doing like it's bro it's not because he's not take so he's not taking benab boy is Nigerian it's a Nigerian culture that is now popular in America so Drake took an American culture and enriched himself but what he's saying is that he doesn't owe anything to America cuz he's not from here right okay argument got no obligation argument like he Liv if he lived like I don't I don't that's how I see it you heard like that's how I see it you dig but all these [ __ ] we talking about are filthy filthy filthy rich off the opinions of men you heard what we're doing right now just put more money in their pocket both of them okay so should we should take this sock never never but what I'm just trying to tell you is how this game is played yeah you heard yeah peace man the more we talk the more they get paid the loser still gets paid too if there is a loser I don't think there's a loser when they all getting Millions off of this [ __ ] I don't think I mean yeah everybody everybody eat be all in the whole circle of it but I'm I've been in this [ __ ] for so long I miss you can see man the politics of really get you to understand of what's really going on and [ __ ] like that what's going let's get it man let's pop it up for this episode [Music] 56 on podcast South Africa number one podcast simple as that all the way from the motherland to America simple as that in this case episode 568 from the motherland I already said that from the motherland to America simple as that but let's go let's get it man I really enjoy this one this is really eye opening this is just really um a culture Vibe a lot of knowledge in it a lot of things I didn't know about Jim Jones and so great interview let's CLP it up for the interview just breaking down my piano um breaking down um Jim Jones life and learning he put a lot of people on especially with loveing hip-hop just seeing you created that Jim Joe's is a OG he's a legend he's a goat man I know this is M favorite podcast I mean favorite interview man I know this one of his favorite interviews simple as that because it's one of my favorite interviews man like I said I really enjoyed this one this is really eye opening y'all let's go on let's get it man especially how even um so puka how he was breaking out my piano in the history like this is very eye opening man so it's one of my favorite episode a lot of knowledge in this episode thank you'all for being patient I appreciate all the chillers for allowing me to chill with y'all my man's that was only head in the comments ver get to the Jim Jones episode thank you thank all yall I appreciate y'all man I enjoy this I hope y'all did too so do me a favor if you watch this video to this point hit that like button you KN you're not part of the team not part of energy not part of the family what you doing what you doing hit that subscribe button just to click to support if you're part of the team keep your smile in your face stay prayed up keep your faith up get the comments down below feel it's not an option simp that and all you guys make sure you have a blessed day blessed night I'm I'm up out of here guys have a bless one