Oregon Head Coach Dan Lanning, Florida State Upset, Early Heisman Candidates, and Week 1 Predictions

what was the term he's a boy maker coach is a boy maker boy maker three boys I don't know did did you rub it did you slap I don't know what hold on know what that means hey hey I should have talked to you first cuz I got four girls one boy at least I got my one tape your an tape your ankles Mark tap your tape the ankles oh boy it's like [Music] bondage oh yeah the music means we are back for another week welcome to the second ever edition of the trip triple option Mark Ingram is dancing to the music in South Florida it is presented as always by our great friends at Wendy's try Wendy's new Saucy nugs today keep dancing Mark before we get underway I want to remind you to subscribe to our YouTube channel follow us on Apple podcast Spotify or wherever you get your podcast as well as across social media at 3x option Show new episodes dropping every Wednesday and we welcome in our head coach Urban Meyer our heis been winner Mark Ingram I'm Rob Stone so glad you guys are back here with us um I care deeply about what you guys did between the last episode in this one but um because as Adam Sandler says in The Wedding Singer I've got the microphone and you'll listen to everything I have to say I get to tell you guys about my uh couple days in the great state coach of oh Ohio baby you're supposed to say IO what you've been out of there that long you don't even follow up with an IO my goodness yeah I got to go to Columbus Ohio last week to celebrate the great Aunt Jane's birthday and since I was in Columbus coach I mean if you're in Columbus what do you do right you you dial in favors and you go check out the second ranked Buckeyes and uh coach you helped me out with that and Jerry em the great sports information director at Ohio State um the host if you will I was able to bring my pops along and so me and uh my dad an longtime Buckeye fan there he is grew up on Lane and Tremont got to go check out the facility there at Woody hay look at G Stoner and by the way Woody's got spikes on too right he's got old school cleats on Grand Bob as we call him in our house no cleats right there gr Bob's got to pick up the pace a little bit there you are coach coach you were all over the center and also in the locker room which was really cool we got to go look at coach right there mark younger version right there strutting through the air that hair not moving that Focus the buck the weight room so impressive in there as well everything in scarlet and gray and I I know that's at all these major campuses and these football programs right now this is inside the Horseshoe and yeah you see these signs you know who came up with those signs yeah our guy our guy Urban Meer and what was really cool is I was there coach on Friday and they had practice kind of a kind of a walkth through you know at their normal training facility but then the whole team including my dad and I boarded buses and we took the bus to the Horseshoe and walked into the locker room and they got to go through for the you know the the transfer players the freshmen what game day was like so you're going to go from here to here when you enter the locker room this is how we do it this is how you sit when we leave the locker room it's this team is going this team is going and they went through the whole thing including um they did the uh what's the hand thing remind me coach the uh quick cows the quick cows oh yeah so they practiced yeah yeah yeah Mark they practiced the quick cows it was cool cuz I could see I saw coach day in the background and he was he was doing the quick cows with them um it's that that Friday coach was really kind of unique because at least to me and I don't know what it would signify to you to me it was like Hey guys Camp is over next step is we are getting ready for kickoff yeah your focus has got to be on the task at hand and that is blocking big people taking care the ball uh you know protecting the quarterback and we would always try to all anxiety's got to be taken out as far as where do I go what do I do what do I wear who am I sit next to so I was an extremist about that because I've had many players over the years tell me that and just the psychology piece of it you're you can only handle so much and your job is to go perform on that field and so as often as we can we did it a couple times we had to called them dress rehearsals and where you get taped where you go from tape where you go here what time uh you know what time you get called out to go on the field and all that so yeah I'm glad you got to see that but you know four to six A to B that's a big saying and I do want to hit this real quick mark I'm a firm believer and what you say you're going to do you're G to do that's how powerful your selft talk is and as a coach I think you can somewhat control their selft talk one of its confidence you know if you're one of those coaches screaming at them no mistakes or watch the draw watch the pass watch you know we would never if I'd hear that I'd say stop stop that it's all 4 to six A to B 4 to six is the length of a play four to six seconds and A to B there's always starting point a and a finish point B and I wanted our players just constantly thinking about effort and effort overcomes mistakes so that was that 4 to6 a Tob coach how does that make you feel that signs that you created quotes that you created and you put up in that facility are still up hanging still standing strong to this day to this day they still there because of you how does that make you feel well I'm glad that uh Ryan kept all that and you know from my understanding and you know I talked to Coach day all the time and you know he's part of that infrastructure he's part of the culture at Ohio State and uh I didn't I I hadn't been in that locker room in a minute it was kind of cool to see that though really you know what they call that coach respect r p c k on this week's edition of the triple option we are joined by Oregon head coach Dan Lanning who is a long time subscriber to the triple option that we learned Urban's yeah Urban's odd way of praising football teams you're going to hear about that coach Prime absolutely sounds off and we're going to talk about week zero stunner which is where we begin with any given Saturday yeah we're going to recap kind of the the big moments in Saturday's activity and on Saturday in Dublin Ireland Florida State number 10 in the nation taking on Georgia Tech and we started off the season with an absolute stunner coach Georgia Tech getting a walkoff field goal to upset the seals in Ireland 2421 and I I could feel your head kind of shaking at that moment yeah devastating loss for Florida State you know here's a team that went undefeated last year they wanted to come out and you know they got bumped from the playoffs and you know heard about that all off season and they lost some good players they have an excellent coach and you know I I picked Florida State in that one but man Georgia Tech really did a hell of a job and Mark there's Checkmate moments in the game and we used to always preach that to our players and our staff and you play you play you play and then there's that one moment and it's analogy of when you do play chess when you tip that cane over and it's over we win the game and the Checkmate moment of this game was you think about it go back with 55 seconds left yes sir there was a loss of 10 yards that knocked them all the way back to the 38 yard line they're out of field goal range yeah and and think about this Mark because I want your op every practice at the during training camp you practice situational game situations because the majority of Big Time games comes down to the last two minutes of a game the line of Mark for a field goal to me was always a 25 yard line between the 25 and 30 and if you can get on offense you can get to that spot to hit a field goal uh we would practice it over and over again you have to get to the 25 in between the 25 and 30 25 if you're an average kicker 30 for good kicker that be a 48 yard field goal and sure enough Florida State all they got to do is make a freaking tackle man then uh Georgia Tech loses 10 yards on a on a screwed up play they run an excellent play call they deliver a screen pass and Florida state does not get them down and they get it down to a 44 yard field goal so those moments I'm sure that's driving that team crazy because that was a devastating loss I mean you talk about situational moments and situational awareness and being able to take advantage in those tough situations Georgia Georgia Tech ultimately almost ruined themselves you know it was kind of a mesh the receiver was coming they snapped the ball quarterback got up on them quick 10 yard loss but now what you got to do you still it's third and long you got to get back in the field goal range like you said coach they made a great play executed it to a t gave their kicker a chance a shot and making a long field goal to win the game and he delivered so I agree with you coach I'm sitting there looking at the game I'm like oh they just blew it you know they just blew it now they going into overtime momentum with Florida State you never know how they can shake out and over time but they executed situational football got their kicker chance he delivered and Georgia Tech with the huge upset in earing yeah you could see that player for Georgia Tech knew exactly where he had to get is third down and 18 and the Checkmate moment is get to that 25 between the 25 and 30 yard line and he did and they hit that 44 y field goal so by any means necessary get it for Coach key at uh uh Georgia Tech a former player and he done a heck of a job there and Georgia Tech might be bouncing back now it's been a minute Paul Johnson had him going they've been dead and buried for a while it's a great school my daughter went there that's a great place and you know that'd be great to see Georgia Tech make a move yeah you talk about Brent key the former offensive line coach there and uh he had a couple really interesting quotes uh after the game coach one of them quote were not a gimmicky brand of football right it's hard NOS because for years Georgia Tech if you look at it obviously on the offensive side coach it it it was kind of a gimmick right and he he's a line coach uh he wants to run the ball down your throat I know Mark Ingram likes to hear we love to run the ball down your throat he can tell during his uh interview after the game that he talked like a l L coach you act like a line coach and he act like a player coach how do line coaches act how do Line run the damn ball man yeah that's uh the best line coaches you worry about the line coaches start saying hey let's throw the ball like wait a minute what what did you just say yeah the staffer run the headsets I would look at the line coach say no no no your job is to pound the football so yes it is as a former offensive lineman how much pride did you have watching that group control the line of scrimmage are you kidding me run the ball well you did that extremely well the B his smile gave it away right like oh this this question is wheelhouse for me I'm going to crush this there's no reason a Georgia Tech can't win beautiful campus right there they got the right coach now you watch what great recruiting area obviously it's a great recruiting area but they also have those I mean Georgia Tech's a real one academically they have some limitations on who you're allowed to take so watch for Georgia Tech that's uh this looks like they got the right coach in in and good and good for Georgia Tech right but but obviously Mark the lead story is Florida State number 10 the reigning ACC Champs falling they looked kind of like Florida state in the early days of Mike norell the the skill guys which Florida State should always have didn't really seem to appear and then dju in his first start for Florida State um looked like the guy that Clemson was I guess content to see leave South Carolina and go somewhere else I mean when you talk about losing in likes of Trey Benson Jordan Travis Keon Coleman Johnny Wilson like that's not just easy fix that's just not an easy replacement and then you dju I mean he's he's just been a guy a guy he's just been been a guy you know and so everyone was super excited about seeing him at the nose and um I respect him he's a hard worker he's been but I mean you got to be able to deliver and they didn't they didn't like you said those skill positions they needed to make plays need to show up um Florida state has some work to do man especially losing the opening game to Georgia Tech they have those playoff aspirations schedule isn't like all that so they got a C I think they got Miami on there so that'll have hopefully they maybe they want Miami to run the table and be high ranked so they got a shot to you know get a a high quality Victory towards the end of the season but Florida State's in trouble they got to go to work but I believe in Mike Norville I was up there I visited Mike Norville I had interview with Jordan Travis I I sat down talked to Trey medon last year and um I know he has the right culture I know he has the right mindset I know he has the right attitude so with Mike Norville leading that program I know they're going to turn the I know they're going to turn the page and and focus on what's moving forward but DJ you got to be able to lead this team make play make plays make right decisions and there's going to have to have some Playmakers some receivers some running backs some tight end step up and and and be the playmaker that this offense needs I don't think they can make the playoff Mark if they lose again I think that's how tough that loss was now obviously if they run the table but I don't I don't know that did not look like a team they have to run the table know dju but I also worry about that defense man yeah a defense gave up big chunks of yardage when they couldn't give them up coach they have to run the table and they have to hope for Miami to be highly ranked around the time they play so they can get that high quality Victory as well because the schedule isn't like stacked with just high quality wins you know so we'll see one last stat on Brent key the coach of Georgia Tech as interim or head coach he's been a five times double digit Underdog they're five and0 in those games won all five of those outright and Coach look at you that's our Saucy nug of the week try some at the nearest Wendy's coach Meyer serving up Saucy nugs coming up next we are joined by Oregon head coach Dan Lanning you know the head coach that coach Meyer affectionately recalls a pain in the ass yeah [Music] you've had Wendy's nugs dipped in sauce right Mark you've had the Wendy nugs had and I love but Mark I ask you have you had them covered in sauce Wendy's new Saucy nugs take the crispy and spicy nugs that I know you love and you know what they turn them up to 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decision to call for a sober ride drive sober or get pulled over paid for by Nitsa all right this week we are joined by the head coach of the third ranked Oregon Ducks he's also a longtime fan of the triple option head coach Dan Lanning of Oregon listen to our first show offered us a critique offline we'll get more on that in a second but coach uh I I know you heard it cuz you listened and watched last week's show but our coach Urban Meyer has a very interesting way of dolling out praise take a listen I called Dan lanan and his staff I did this last year I think they're the best pain in the ass staff in the country and that's something that I remember when I was a younger coach we would always do whatever the defense didn't want to see so I'd sit in the defensive rooms and I'd all ask them what drives you nuts and whatever did I put it in on offense on offense I'd ask them defensively whether it be bear whether it be odd four ey whether it be some some kind of Blitz if it was a pain in the ass I went over the decord I said put it in when I watch Oregon play that's them they're were pain in the ass all over the field special teams offense defense and that's a credit to their staff I love watching them play and I'm a big fan of Oregon feel the love feel the love yeah you know I think that my mom might be upset about it but as a coach that's what you want to that's what you want to hear right you want you you don't want to make it easy on your opponent and you know coach Meer and I talked about it several times like you're not trying to do the things that they're able to line up and execute against every day you want to do the things that are really simple for your team but complicated for your opponent so that's certainly what we try to do here and I I think when I was out there with you guys in the spring you have such a good group of Staff good group of coaches that first of all they get along and and the one thing that's always intrigued me is that the most U underutilized resource is each other and when your offensive coaches don't talk to your defense coaches and vice versa I never understood that and so when I actually built a facility at Florida I made sure the two staff rooms are right next to each other and I was really impressed with your staff out there coach yeah you know that's something you know going back to when I was with you know coach uh Sav and Coach smart we always watched practice film with each other in the room a lot of teams they'll go in the offense will go watch the offense the defense will go watch the defense but I want both sides of the ball hearing the issues with each coverage or issues with with uh each side and how can we make it harder so you know we're in there talking about releases and we're like hey if this guy will stall release for a second it's really going to screw up our rules um that's something that you're those little things like that I think are really critical to hear from from each other you know before I turn this over to Mark as I was in the spring also was very unique way of going about your business where you kept I kept saying where's your offensive line and you're mixing matching can you kind of explain to the the theory behind that in Spring practice where you you know you just kept trying different lineups and there really wasn't a first second third string it was just moving people around and first time I seen that I I I got an understanding once I you explained it to me yeah you know a couple pieces to that first in in Spring ball all I'm trying to figure out and even early in Fall I'm trying to figure out who's above the line and who's below the line who can play winning football and there hasn't been a year where I've been coaching where your lineup the way it starts is the way it finishes so it's not about finding just 11 guys that can play it's about finding as many guys as possible um that can play and then the last thing I want is guys worried about where where am I in the pecking order all that like I just want guys to go play great football but we change the matchups every single day to make sure okay I'm gonna get this defensive lineman versus this offensive lineman all right we I chart it you know throughout spring how many reps got this guy get at left tackle left guard you know so I can also say okay who's our back up backup left tackle are we getting him enough reps it guard if our Center goes down who's the next guy snapping it so I think the easy thing is to say okay here's your 11 go practice with these 11 and and make it work but for me as much as possible you want to move those pieces around uh see how many guys can play winning football are you giving the uh the quarterbacks a fair chance if they're always throwing to the best wide outs do you get do you get an opportunity to change which guy you're throwing to who you're going against so definitely believe in iron sharpens iron we have uh you know periods where we got to be the best versus the best but I'm I'm more interested in changing those lineups up uh until you get or you know a little later in Fall Camp to see uh can guys work in multiple spots and and how many players you have above the line to play winning football yeah coach you talked about iron sharpers iron and you have a lot of not just Talent just a lot of top talent coming in Oregon I'm hearing rumors about guys flying in on private jets and all type of good stuff like that what is it like having the backing of the Juggernaut that Phil Knight in the Nike br is yeah I think if you want to be you know one of the best teams in college football you better have resources uh to be there and Phil is always been yeah and and I think a lot of great teams do right the great teams have support right uh but Phil has always been an unbeliev Phil and Penny have always been unbelievable uh supporters of Oregon I think everybody always thinks about Oregon Athletics you you should see what they've done to the school you should see what they've done for cancer research you should see what they've done just in in their communities um but yeah you have have support to be an elite team right now uh and I think that sometimes people get carried away and start talking about all the things they think happen when that's not really the reality you know we're a competitive football team and to be a competitive football team you better have resources right now just a quick followup coach how involved are you with the Jersey selections and the 30 different options y'all have I just have V I really have veto power Mark that's it I can see it and you don't like it you just overturn it that's it that's it like if I see something that's too extreme I'm like guys we ain't doing that but most of the time by the time we get to Saturday I don't really know what we're wearing you know our players our that you got to give your players something that they can be in charge of our equipment uh guy here Kenny far is unbelievable and obviously our relationship with Nike is really special but they make these jerseys a couple years in advance my wife probably has more to do with it than I do coach when that cell phone when you look at that cell phone it says Phil Knight or or what is Phil Knight in your cell phone as Lord Knight big Phil yeah he's in there as Phil Knight it actually I don't know why you know how it saves like uh the picture or or whatever somebody has saved as their profile it actually has a basketball saved on it you know for him which I don't understand why basketball's Dana Alman hacked your phone that's what it is Coachman jumped in there uh when you when you see that Phil Knight is is calling you or texting you what is your immediate reaction excitement I mean I'm I still pinch myself every day I wake up that I get to walk into this facility get to be the head coach at Oregon um I remember the very first time I ever talked to Phil I get off the phone my family and I when we go on vacations we do audio books sometimes and we listen to the book Shoe dog together and my oldest son kayen goes is that the Phil night from shoe dog I was like yeah that's him so I still get excited uh when when when I get to talk to Phil on the phone it's uh it's fun to be able to you know pick his brain you had bo Nicks last year Bo Nicks last year you had Dylan Gabriel this year uh obviously two transfer quarterbacks uh great players are you worried a little bit about getting in that routine where you're always going to get transfers as opposed to taking that high school player and interesting uh you know that in the last 10 years uh Joe burrow is the only transfer at ever wi at all so I'm just curious that is that is that a plan or is that just the way it worked out you know I think college football's changed you go look at the Heisman Trophy ceremony last year you see Michael penck transfer right you see a guy from LSU transfer bod Nick's transfer um trying to remember I guess Marvin was the other guy up there right but he was there the whole time our goal is certainly to recruit high school and developed Talent um but number one goal is to go win football games and we you know Dante Moore is a great example of a guy that was committed to us all the way until Signing Day ended up going somewhere else and then came to us so uh I I think you want to be able to sign High School talent and develop High School talent and and grow from there but your job first is to make sure that you have a competitive roster to go compete you know on Saturdays Brave New World that you're in coach uh transitioning from the Pack 12 rest in peace to the Big 10 how has that changed your philosophy towards recruiting towards scheduling towards just managing your program as a whole yeah uh a couple small changes nothing you know nothing huge I still think winning football is winning football regardless of what conference you're in and when you want to play you know where we want to play at the end of the year um it it's it's going to take big teams up front you're have to win in the trenches you G have to have great skill outside and you're have to play as a team you have to be playing disciplined football that certainly exists in the Big 10 that's something I'm excited about the Traditions there I do think it opens up our footprint from recruiting there's some places that you know we weren't playing before that we're playing games now that's going to create some opportunities and time um for us to be able to go attack so I'm I'm certainly excited about that um you know but outside of that I don't think it changes a whole lot you know as far as when you you uh in the future you know we play in five years in advance who our non-conference games are you're probably looking for something a little closer to home because you're going to be traveling more in season there's no way you don't have a big circle around October 12th when the Ohio State comes out to Eugene how much coach and I would talk through the years and every day Ohio state did something to prepare for that team up north how much are you preparing right now whether it's through fall camp and as you head into week one for that date with Ohio State yeah you know I don't know that we we are just just on them in fact I know in fact I know we aren't you know what we are is we definitely studied in this summer um we definitely took some time uh to be able to look at them as a team and what what their talent is and what we think we will need when we get to that week um to be able to play those guys but the unique unique thing now in college football is there's a chance you can play that team multiple times too so um it's going to be interesting I've I've always been process oriented I've always been you know let's focus on the team that we have right now um and who we have to play right now that that being said uh that's certainly going to be a big game in od I know our fans are excited about and our players are excited about biggest game in Oregon football history in your books or at least in most recent that's gonna be a big one man you know certainly biggest game Sorry my ear Ear Pod fell out here certainly uh my biggest game you know I think probably since since I've been here as the head coach um and certainly a huge one you know here yeah that's going to be a monster but um coach now that you're in the Big 10 I know you've went from the Pack 12 rest in peace what Rob said you went from playing schools that were all around you now you have an average travel schedule of 2300 miles 2300 miles 2300 miles wow how are you managing that logistically and also the expectations of family members that wanted to see their you know children play Closer To Home well if you walk into our locker room Mark you're not going to see a lot of guys from Oregon so everybody was always traveling to come play here and to be honest I mean we traveled to Texas Tech last year we had some long you know long trips I don't think the game's that different for us East for us East Coast trips you know I'm shocked to hear it being 2,300 miles I honestly didn't know that you know the reality is we go to Wisconsin we go to Purdue we go to Michigan those are our our long road trips for the most part we're still going to be playing kind of relatively close schedule we go to La we went to LA before right um You Know It times we're going to be traveling the Pacific Northwest so does a lot lot change no the one thing I do did do is visit with some NFL staffs about when you're traveling multiple time zones okay do we want to travel a day earlier do we want to make that look a little different but uh I don't think it's going to be you know huge it's different in football now other sports I think it's a big deal right um but you know for us I don't think it's going to be drastically different you talked to those NFL teams are you going to fly a day earlier and anything else that you took from those conversations that you'll adjust for your program yeah we'll fly earlier you know Purdue was a game that um that we were going to be going a day earlier now we're playing on a Friday night don't think you necessarily have to go earlier but uh some of those other ones will will end up traveling earlier best pregame speech in 2023 you're getting ready to play Colorado I know me and you talked about that and it always shocked me when I see those darn cameras in the locker room but let's go ahead and run that and hear your comments on that rooted in substance not flash rooted in substance today we talk with our pads you talk for your helmet right every moment the Cinderella story is over man right they're fighting for clicks we're fighting for wins there's a difference right there's a difference right this game ain't going to be played in Hollywood it's going to be played on the grass right it's going to be played on the grass let's [Applause] go let's go so good let's go coach how much of that was pre meditated how much of it was in the moment I I mean I always feel like before I talk to our team I want to know what I'm going to be able to say but the the message for us like I I've got messaging for every week kind of already mapped out General thought and then I think you adjust it for uh when you get into that week what that team's going to look like um you know so the things we're talking about in that locker room a lot of it got trimmed out and it became about something it really wasn't you know the real message was who are we right who who is our team we were talking about how connected we are we talked about the Redwoods um and how the strength of of the Redwoods are in their Roots right and their Roots really don't grow deep they grow together so that's really what that was about is us being a team that day and and avoiding being you know individuals when we knew that there was going to be some distractions some other pieces to that puzzle uh it was a great lesson for me as a young head coach when somebody asks hey can we come to your locker room we're g to make sure we don't uh share stuff that you don't want being shared and you run out to the practice or run out to the game field to go coach and don't watch it for first you know uh sometimes that's not necessarily result so I don't know if you'll ever see cameras in our locker room again but it it it ended up not being a horrible thing I guess no that was a great thing you went they went out there and answered the bill so that's all you answer for from your team yeah yeah coach I I did a uh um a little crowd sourcing here so I got a question from an Oregon Alum and an Oregon resident good friend of mine Chris Turley once he heard I was uh talking to you he he fired me off a laundry list of questions he wants answer all right so I cleaned them up I clean them up this is a good one though this is kind of for Oregon Nation as a whole he says Uh there's always talk about Aon Stadium being expanded in seating size especially now that it's sitting there in the Big 10 do you think your Stadium needs to be bigger well I mean this year all our season tickets are sold out you know the our opening game against Idaho is sold out several of our games are already sold out I think that's going to be Trend here you know as long as we continue to do our job so if that's the case we certainly have to find some ways to be able to get more people in The Stance and we have an unbelievable environment uh and I think that the great thing about Oregon you talk about one of the reasons you come here is because it's about Innovation and they're always on The Cutting Edge so if there's an opportunity to grow here I think that uh we'll we'll be taking advantage of that I see that smile I I see what your answer is saying right there hey Euro uh mark what was the term he's a boy maker coach is a boy maker boy maker three boys I don't know did did you rub it did you SL I don't know what hold on know what that means hey hey I should have talked to you first cuz I got four girls one boy at least I got my one but tape your ankles Mark tape your ankles tape the ankles those boys like I don't know what any of that means and I'm going to transition off of it so coach you got three boys your oldest is Titan by the way that is a name youngest youngest is Titan you're Titan is 14 Cadence's 14 12 my 11year old is Titan he's my young bu so Titan's 11 by the way strong name selection I heard a rumor that Titan was practicing with you guys last week is that right yeah he got out there on the field with us little bit you know I I've always wanted my boys to do exactly what they're interested in doing and what's what's fun is all of them are all three different but I was certainly pretty pumped whenever Titan it's like Dad I want to play football you know I I got excited about it and the other day you know School hasn't started yet for these guys so he asked me if he could come to practice and I was like hell yeah let's go so it you know I told him you need to be involved what he can do he can do but when he came to the drill work he needs to do the drill work behind and around the team I look over the very first period of practice he's in the middle of a drill running the drill I said no no no you you practice after practice you know during practice these guys practice but he just enjoys being around the guys and he's getting infatuated with the game so it's fun to watch shout out to Titan I'm a firsttime uncle my sister my baby sister had a son and named him Titan so shout out to the titans of the world man they Legend there coach one more one more more quick question um so you listened to episode number one and you listened to the interview we did with Coach Sabin uh what did you extract or what did you learn from that conversation uh I just I just enjoy hearing you know coach Sab coach Meer anytime I there's a coach that I've got a lot of respect for um for me it's it's an opportunity for me to learn a little bit and uh the way he went about his process every single day was something that I got to watch you know as a year as a ga with him um but just listen to his you know his thought process for me is always exciting uh to pick up whether it's how he recruited you know even hearing him talk about Mark's recruitment on that last episode and how involved he gets you know as him as an assistant coach you know whether it's doing the grade checks or meeting the girl friends you know that stuck out to me uh about how detailed that he would be and then getting that to go full circle where he gets to coach a former players song that's that's pretty awesome awesome hey coach I I I I admire your offense philosophy I would have loved to play in your offense it's wide open it's explosive it's exciting you know we we know you lost B Knicks Bucky Irving who I was a big fan of Troy Franklin is there any players that we don't know of who's gonna make a big splash who we should be aware of I I always say you gota you gotta sit and watch man I need some of that Insider info coach I need some of that I apologize mark But I tell you this like every every week I get this same question in every PR press conference and say you guys watch the game like I watched the game you know you got to make plays in practice to make plays in the game I've seen some plays in practice but I never know how you know the great thing is there is no script to this right so you got to go see how the guys perform we have talent um we have some guys that can create issues for the opponent uh certainly but it's got to all come to fruition on game day so there when there it's a little different when somebody's out there pressing you it's a little bit different when there you call a play into a blitz and you don't realize how it's going to play out so I'm excited to see it you know come full circle and then it's our job as coaches to figure out what our players do best so they they can you know utilize those skills I'm excited to see it too coach I'm high I'm high on the Ducks right now I'm high on the Ducks you feel me appreciate it yes sir coach Landing thanks so much for joining us on episode two we can't wait for your postow critiques to come in on H Wednesday evening I'll get them to you no doubt thanks coach best of luck this season enjoy your [Music] opener are you hiring what type of position do you need to fill well whether you need to hire a civil engineer in New York a pediatric nurse in Nebraska an attorney in Colorado or I don't know even a mascot in Michigan you need zip recruiter zip recruiter finds qualified candidates fast for all kinds of roles and right now you can try it for free at ziprecruiter.com Option say your favorite school fire their offensive coordinator in the middle of the Season zip recruiter lets you connect with top candidates a app you can use zip recruiters pre-written invite to apply message to 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award like I feel like if I wasn't on a tremendous team that had a lot of Victories coaches put me in position it was just so many hands that got into me being successful and me having the opportunity to go to the Heisman presentation represent my school um I'm just thankful for everyone who had their hands in it because all I did was just do my job and it was just a Define him you're forever defined though as a Heisman Trophy oh look at the smile right away it tells you you're forever defined as a Heisman Trophy winner when people bring that up and say it to you and it's hanging right over your shoulder I mean what what is the internal reaction that you get I'm thankful man I'm humbled I'm honored and to be the first one at the story University of Alabama I mean it it's a it's an amazing feeling it's something that uh etched in stone forever you know you can't take it from the boy you know what I mean boy is going to be the first not the second the first you know I mean boy go on no but it it was just a blessing man I'm grateful I'm thankful had a lot of hands a lot of people who poured into me and help me accomplish that but I was just doing my job coach I was just toing that pig skin hand it to and let me tote it that's all I was doing and it's a team award as well that's what I've always looked at that we were lucky to have guys in the invited to the Heisman quite often and we had one Heisman winner with Tim ironically I had two Heisman guys that didn't play for that played for us then transferred Cam Newton and Joe burrow so I coached three Heisman guys only one played for us but I I I do think this too Mark and Rob is that it's also the coach's responsibility when you recruit these fine players like a Mark Ingram or Zeke Elliot we had JT Barrett you know we had these guys that every year would have an opportunity to become a Heisman candidate and in the back of your mind even the front of your mind it's your obligation to make sure you get them touches you keep them healthy because that's the great promotion for your school and recruiting plus that's a coach's job when you when that Mom and Dad hand you that player say take care of my kid you make sure you take care of that kid and that also means you get them every award that's possible and and you do right by him you know it's interesting coach we talk about Heisman numbers and Heisman moments you know through a course of a game how much of of those attributes or those stats are you or somebody actually tracking when you know you have a legitimate Heisman candidate on your roster yeah I wasn't say anything to anybody other than uh my my guy that was next to me Quinn or or or Brian volan and it would only be in the games where you're outmatch the opponent where you're you know when you're supposed to win by three four scores and the game starting to go a certain way I would in I think we talked about that I think JT Barrett one time we're playing ironically Bowling Green a place I used to coach but we threw the ball in the second quarter every snap and the reason we did that is I wanted to get JT some stats before I pulled him out of the game and so we I think we had six touchdowns in the first half and then you pulled him out so he at least could leave uh you know leave that day with some stats to get him in the Heisman running I'm sure Bowling Green appreciated that seven 710 defeat that you handed him your former School the school that gave you the start I Ziggy Zumba a little shout out to Bowling Green by the way I hope big noon kickoff can somehow find their way to the campus of Bowling Green at some point that be great gosh I would love a they have a good team this year by the way let's go let's see if they the Falcons can do it talking about Heisman facts we're gonna and you mentioned Cam Newton coach going back to the year he won the Heisman in 2010 12 of the last 14 winners Mark cover your ears have been quarterbacks those poor running backs those poor wide receivers of those QBs five from the secc three from the Big 12 two each from the Pack 12 and the ACC Mark I I'm going to give you a trick Rob one second I want to give you something but guess who the Guess Who the three non quarterbacks guess where they went to school it's three non- quarterbacks since I left guess who guess guess where they went course Alabama uh-huh roll damn tied we don't give a piss about nothing but the tide baby you so you're including yourself in those three right because Derrick Henry and 15 we can we can excl we can exclude me we can exclude me we can't exclude you you're you're a you're our Heisman Trophy winner my friends so let's talk Heisman real quick we know Heisman are not one in August or September it's more of a November type trophy but as we go into really week number one here Mark who are some of the Heisman favorites that that are on your radar right now I mean as you said this Quarterback Award you have to be very special have a very special season even be you know considered for it if you're not a quarterback so even a quarterback you have to have a special season as a quarterback so let's just go from the top of the list down number one Carson Beck returning third year as a starter leader of that team and he is a player he is a ball player then you go to number two Oregon Dylan Gabriel if he has a great season and Oregon is doing what they're supposed to supposed to do he'll be in the running for it then you go to number three Ohio state will Howard if they have a good season and will Howard is getting numbers obviously they're going to run the football two Elite running backs but if Ohio state is having a season that everyone thinks they should he will be in contention then you go to Texas Quinn uers then you go to Five Alabama Jaylen milro these are all guys with a legit shot at winning this Heisman Trophy then now I got some dark horses like you you could throw somebody like maybe Travis Hunter has a huge year playing defense intercepting the ball maybe he has some big plays on offense you got to be able to do them both um Damen Martinez in Miami running back you know what I mean uh uh he has had like 2,000 scrimmage yards over the last two seasons all Pack 12 he's down there at Miami if Miami has a big season and he's running hard running big and having big plays big numbers maybe he's a a non-quarterback uh potential candidate but um you know these teams that are everyone's expecting for them to do well look for those quarterbacks and somebody from those positions to be able to rise to the cage and and uh be in contention for the Heisman but that's what that's week one that's that's my thoughts that's week one may maybe one other quarterback because you know you didn't mention enough quarterbacks Mark um Jackson Dart Jackson Dart Old Miss yeah former USC guy Old Miss um look the lane train is going to put up passing numbers right we we know that Dart what he had uh 3,300 passing yards 23 touchdowns also rushed it for eight scores last season the question for him is how good is the Old Miss team going to be again preseason top 10 if they can get themselves in the you know 101 win category and get themselves in upset somewhere over one of the big dogs in the SEC I think we're going to be talking about Jackson D coach did we miss anybody actually you know what funny Coach I remember we talked about will Howard and Heisman I think it was last week or maybe it was off camera at some other point you you kind of scratched your head about that you weren't fully believing that one I'm I'm more on Mark's Point like if Ohio state is number one and you're the quarterback and you put up pretty good numbers you're definitely going to be in consideration yeah but you need more than pretty good though Mark and that's the only concern is they they have the two first rounders at tailback they have yeah an incredible group of receivers I'm just not sure I think he's a great player and I think he's gonna you know he's gonna run one of the top offenses of the country but when you get to November you have to have the stats you know I've been down that road before and you know that's at times you would actually feel guilty because you didn't give the guy enough carries it was Zeke Elliott or you had you know JT just didn't give them enough touchdowns because at the end of the day yes you have to be part of a great team but you have to have the stats and that's my concern about will Howard I just don't see him you know having that uh 40 touchdown passing uh season or a you know I I think he'll be a very good runner for a house tap but not enough statistically to uh put him in Heisman and schedule so soft early on too you think that's going to have a negative impact on Ohio State candidates I worry about that I mean you look closely at that schedule they're five weeks until they play a game now the the game they play in five weeks is a real one but they have three uh games where their 50-point favorites a by week and then Michigan State like we said a shell of themselves and you know you're playing 35 40 plays a game and you have all those other Talent on that field how do you walk away from those games without you know and you're going to pull in the third fourth quarter how do you do that you know and I I just I'm I'm worried about that if he has Rudy pools the first five weeks he's going to put up numbers and then you go to Oregon you you if you go to Oregon and you put a great performance together and win on the road in Eugene that right there is going to put you in consideration I don't care what his numbers are looking like it's about what you doing with your team putting them in position to win that naty that's going to that's what's going to be to will Howard's advantage and you say he could run the ball so he going to have some Rush yards maybe some Russian Tes we going to see we going to see it's week one it's all speculation but even last year will Howard was 24 touchdowns and uh and uh 359 rush yards I just don't know if that's obviously I think you have some better numbers this year and and better support and cast now he has a better support and cast now he was at where Kansas Kansas State yeah and he's leaner and he's faster uh and and he's certainly on your own people coach it ain't a good look oh not he won't have the stats he's just he's just a truth provider all right it's time for heard that each week we're going to bring you a clip that caught our ear holes and this week it comes from yes our good friend Deion Sanders coach Prime so yeah so here's the background right Colorado the university the football program informed The Denver Post that coach Prime other members of the football team would no longer take questions from one of their columnist Sean Keeler after what was perceived as personal attacks on Dion Dion through the course of those columns now after that ban Mark kizla a writer for The Denver Post and keeler's coworker obviously asked coach Prime if he feels persecuted by outside noise I don't know about persecuted this is a way of life for me you you guys act like this is the first time I've been shot at I've been lied on cheated talk but this treat that's the gospel song this is not the first time for this but as I mature instead of shooting back or lashing out or just dismissing you I want to know why like let's help each other let's figure out the why because if you understand the why in people that that helps you tremendously because that's all I come from I just come to find I want to know why what provokes that what was your reaction when you heard that coach I've known Dean a long time time and and uh he says things that uh most people want to say uh I've never seen a guy ban you know guys from asking questions or all that there's been times all of us wanted to but I think there's two-sided responsibility there one is the coach probably can't you know he'll catch a lot of heat for not allowing people to ask questions but then I I do believe journalists have a and I use that term sometimes you know journalist that you know when their personal attacks or just constant you know antagonist because there there are there are guys out there that's how they make a living you know they don't really report it but they're you know it's almost shock jock where they antagonize constantly so I get it you know and um I can see exactly where he's coming from but I know he threw himself out there he's going to get I'm sure there's a lot of media now we're going to just start swarming him ironically some guy's trying to get clicks from coach Prime right and and that's that's part of it I I agree I think on the surface it doesn't look good for Dion um I but there are certain you know and Mark knows it too and there's certain profile of uh of once again I use that term journalists that they're not covering your team you know they're not covering the the player the coach the university the team they're simply that's how they you know the they get hired to go just be an antagonist uh for people and and and they're out there but you know trying to get a quote and only put like seven words of a quote to fit their story that fit their narrative that F their article but hey man negative energy negative people do away with them do away with them yeah well I think that's what coach is saying right I'm doing away I'm doing away with you uh you know maybe the two of them should come together behind closed doors and and and talk it out um unfortunate that it has to come to that we're know that instead of firing back I thought that was really uh uh actually I want to know why thought out I to know why I just want to know why what's what's your problem why why would you you know call whether it be the coach or players names you know to me like I said there's there's there's accountability on both sides of this deal that yes the head coach and the team have to be available for the media and I think that's probably right but then also why I I'm I like that I don't know if the guy answered the question and I didn't read the guy what Kinsler you said his name was or something yes was he attacking and what did he say what did he say it was it was things that were perceived as we mentioned as personal attacks and remember the other element to this is um you know coach has got kids his his own kids his own DNA his blood on that team and you can go after your team and a team is a family but when you're going after your family right if he's taking shots at your kid um that's awful D I think I think the hair raises up a little bit more on the back of the neck and you get a little I did read that he did he he was calling them names if I remember right some nicknames yeah yeah Planet Prime false profit deposition Dion seen Bruce Lee of BS the Dion Kool-Aid and circus I mean I get it dude's a hater basically dude's a hater got some good he's got some good nicknames though I'll give him credit there false profit is crazy and hey what's that old saying you know any news is good news right you're out there and people are talking about Colorado we're certainly not talking about Colorado as much as we were at this point last season but let me tell you if coach Prime and the Buffs get off to a hot start you I'm going to tell you right now big noon kickoff start packing your bags for going go back you know where we going ecoa JS baby pasta jasta J's getting a shout out this week though we're going to be in Morgantown West Virginia we're going to talk about that game coming up next with pick six brought to you by bet MGM place your money line prop parlay and same gay P same game parlay bets at betmgm download the app today please gamble responsibly so betmgm every week uh through the course of this conversation we're going to have the dece deuce dog of the week Mark I need to remind you apparently that you have to pick the underdog you think will outright win I love the sound so good all right so reminder to everybody who's out there listening and watching these lines are current as of Tuesday obviously they can change and we're always going going off the BET MGM line so Mark we're going to start with you that quote unquote neutral sight game although I guess it kind of is for these two programs a little bit number one Georgia number 14 Clemson the handle which is the total money that has come in as of Tuesday right now it is split right down the middle how do you see Georgia Clemson I like Georgia oh I'm sorry Georgia 14-point favorite and it's split down the middle people are taking the points split down the middle yep I'm laying the points I'm taking Georgia to cover Carson Beck Kirby Smart dline o line I'm looking to see what's going to happen with the running back situation here yeah etn might be suspended you know what I mean so I'm looking to see what happens with the running back situation here but I think Carson Beck in Georgia is just on another level right now so they're going to need some receivers to step it up we're going to see how the secondary they lost some people in the secondary we're going to see how they do but I know Kirby Smart he was my defensive coordinator when I was Alabama I know he going to have that defense ready to roll and I know he going to run that ball and I know Carson Beck Going to ball so I'mma take Georgia okay with the points so not I got them covering not your dece Deuce dog of the week so they not the dog of the week even though they the dog not the dog of the week all right maybe maybe number two will be your dog of the week it is uh it's no dog of a game I'll tell you that it it is a sneaky good Regional rivalry game and the three of us will be packing our bags heading to Morgantown West Virginia I'll see all there on Thursday first big noon kickoff on Fox of the Year number eight Penn State an8 and 1 Half Point favorite coach at West Virginia in this line it has moved two points from the opening spread so originally Penn State favored by 10 A2 now down to 8 and A2 and 65% of the total money going towards West Virginia and the points coach wild Place Mark I can't wait to get down there I was there one other time and and uh Rich Ro was the coach there years ago a good friend of mine and then obviously Don nean this is years and years ago we're going old the fans are and I talked to uh Neil Brown the coach at West Virginia he said those boys and girls are not going to be sleeping I mean this is going to be rocking and rolling uh huge game I I've been all over this for about two weeks now West Virginia has one got one of the best unsun players in the country Garrett green the quarterback is a beast he's a a runner thrower perfect for that offense he's a big part of the Run game an option football and Q reads the coach actually told me that he kind of came out of nowhere last year and really finished strong and they had a great year last year but he'll be the guy that 80 to 90% of the time he'll have to make a decision in the Run game that means it's not just traditional run so he can run pass option they'll call it a draw play and he's allowed to throw the ball he does the traditional reads where he's reading the defensive end and he can pull it so he's a hell of a player here's the thing Penn State has got two new coordinators Tom Allen on defense they not going to change much on defense and Jerry dardo went to visit uh Penn State for training camps at their defenses Elite the difference is on offense col necki from uh C University of Kansas is the OC now he's a very creative Guy matter of fact the two games that I saw three games that I saw about 10 to 15 snaps per game different people like up at quarterback Mark he does a lot of Wildcat one game I counted four different players lining up at quarterback obviously you got your quarterback then you got three three other players in a wild cat type SE uh uh uh style of offense so very creative I like West Virginia to cover I think West Virginia might win the game if uh if Garrett green has goes off and has one of his days but Penn State Defense is tough number one Rush defense a year ago and West Virginia was number one Rush offense in power five a year ago so strength on strength environment's going to have to count for something I think West Virginia covers that spread and Stoner and Coach you know what that is that's my my dog of the week D with the squirrel hat that's I'll tell you the crowd man that is going to be wild this might be one of the best we've had for big noon yeah taking us all the de Duce dog of the week West Virginia is going to win outright over Penn State uh coach that crowd what do you think a field goal difference makes more than that yeah more than that I I think whenever you bring in a new coordinator and on defense they're not going to change much but they're bringing that Kansas offense that takes a minute that means they CH I bet they change terminology because a guy like that doesn't leave the job that he had unless James Franklin gave him complete control and when you change everything it takes a minute to uh for everybody to get on the same page and and the question mark Drew Eller is he the guy that can get Penn State to the promised land such such a conservative offense right very limited if you will shots down the field you know or or passes in the 20 yard range look for more of that from the Penn State they got to have it Rob they got to have they got to have a receiver uh come come out there and be number one you got two stud running backs everyone's like their production is down yes their production is down because everyone knows if we stop them they can't do anything else that's what happened last year exactly especially in the big games it was it was we were there for a couple of them the Michigan against the Buckeyes and the Wolverines and it was it was tough to watch all right again pick six brought to you by bet MGM so two games down four to go Miami a two and a half Point favorite on the road in Gainesville the canes rank number 19 Florida unranked coach coach uh hold on real quick coach 68% of all the bets placed for Miami wow the you I'll tell you got a q the out of the jump this is a must win for both programs Mario crystal ball has really struggled he's he's lost 10 of his last 13 games versus Power five no that's Florida I'm sorry Billy Co schneier has lost 10 of last think about that at Florida lost 10 of the last 13 games against Power five Mario Crystal Miami is 12 and 13 the last two seasons the Florida Gator have the number one most difficult schedule in the country it's brutal I see them being under dogs in possibly eight games this year so this is a must-win Miami's got a transfer quarterback cam Ward for Washington State I went back and watched him he's excellent player was one of the top transfer guys available in the portal last year they have two great receivers and they got Ruben Bane the top defense transfer defensive end so I like Miami to probably win it I think Florida will cover I think it's going to come down to final possession and uh it's going to be a hell of a game you like Florida to cover it's a two and a half point spread I think it's going to be one point I think it's GNA wow I think it's going to come down to a field goal win I this is a must win game Who whatever whatever team loses their fan base is going to be in shambles oh I know a mess whatever team loses their fan base is going to be not a fan anymore State of Florida right the Tallahasse is already a mess now you're going to call out Miami and Gainesville all right uh Mark let's go to you de duu number seven Notre D on the road at number 20 Texas A&M the agies favored by three A&M in College station uhhuh Notre Dame banged up injuries another new quarterback Notre Dame banged up injuries a new quarter back three sophomore lineman two freshman linemen going down there to College Station against a d li who is really like that I'm taking A&M I'm taking the maggies gigum did you feel in our colleague Brady Quinn a little hesitation when he starts usually he's swinging really hard when he talk about the Irish itation I think he impacted Mark's pick by the way hey a young yeah a young hey you got to start listening you got to start listening to the people man you got to be receptive of information I'm receptive information we on the call I'm here in BQ Notre Dame God little G Notre Dame God he he he ain't confident I'm like oh well why should I beat in yep y you got hey you got to listen to the people you got listen to the speaking of listening to the people I listen to the people I got the next game number 13 LSU 4 and a half Point favorite taking on number 23 USC this game in Las Vegas the Vegas kickoff classic 56% of the total bets are going to the favorite which is LSU so a couple interesting wrinkles to this one both head coaches Brian Kelly um and obviously you know what Coach Riley has done at USC both of them in their third year both of them breaking in new quarterbacks Garrett nus Meer red shirt Jr watch out for him he could be a breakout candidate for LSU and then Miller Moss takes the snaps Caya Williams gone and you know if what we saw from him in the bowl game where Moss play you're saying to yourself well we might be getting ourselves another Heisman in Southern California but it's just one game so I listen to the people as well who did I go to guys who did I go to for a little USC Intel Matt ler you bet I did you bet I did I said Matt in no specific order give me give me a USC concerns list all right and I think a lot of these we can figure out pretty easy really yeah I didn't need Matt for that one but number one he goes he goes defense um some new coaches there they were one of the worst defenses in the country a year ago defense is an overall concern more specifically up front they've added size they've added some depth but can they play week in and week out against that new grueling Big 10 schedule which is part number two of course the LSU game a bit of a early measuring stick home Penn State Nebraska Notre Dame Wisconsin on the road at Michigan at Washington so they could easily lose according to Matt five games again this is Matt liner USC Heisman Legend Number Three Miller Moss morvin un known again we talk about that bowl game he was fantastic following a Heisman winner challenging this is interesting though even though I do think Lincoln Riley will enjoy coaching him more easier in a lot of ways what does that mean coach I I think whenever you have a player with the Persona of Caleb and the expectations uh at times could be hard to coach I don't know the inw workings of that relationship between Lincoln Riley and them we all admired Caleb as a player and I mean my gosh as far as the skill set maybe the best in the last decade at that position but it can wear on you a little bit when you you know I imagine the coach just felt so much pressure to put him in situations to win and here we are one of the greatest players a Heisman winner one of the greatest players talent-wise maybe in the past 10 years and he leaves USC without a ring on his finger that's that's terrible I mean that's that's you just feel awful about that so maybe it's just a fresh start out in southern K Matt ler would know much more than he he's probably got his thumb all over that one and and you know it's always interesting to me in any sport if you have uh if you've got a dog dog right if you got a dece deuce like Mark Ingram or somebody on your team the whole team just kind of leans on that human right just like all right it's up to you it's up to you when that big personality when that big player leaves I think sometimes he takes that vacuum with him and it creates this this opening pasture for more players to contribute and feel like hey I need to play a bigger ger part in this game so a lot of times it feels like addition by subtraction even when you're losing a mega Talent like a Caleb Williams all right let's go back to Matt liner he's worried about the loss at wide receiver of course Zachariah Branch I mean a tremendous special team threat um he is the guy but who else is going to be there to throw it to the awful uh awful offensive line coach the old line uh they got to get uh they got to get bigger they obviously grew in size he recruited pretty well but certainly concerned and then his one he gave me a Matt ler gave me a bonus concern about USC Lincoln Riley and the expectations here in year three if they struggle he doesn't think they're going to be calling for his job yet but those expectations what what is it about year three coach where the expectations automatically become I think elevated by by the press and and by the fan base as well we need to see results now yeah right we need to see results now we gave you time we need to see results now you got momentum keep in mind these are College players and college coaching staffs and the the point the most important thing in college is getting recruiting great players once programs start to lose momentum it's hard to get it back and you see it all the time where all of a sudden you whether it be a Florida whether it could be a Miami and game one if they lose momentum you're going to see recruiting really start to struggle I think USC is at that point right now where yes since he's when when Lincoln Riley went over to USC that was The Story of the Year a great coach that took Oklahoma to the playoffs has not got Southern Cal another blue blood I mean that southern cow should be a top five place every year have as good a recruiting Talent within a 50 mile radius of that campus as anywhere in the country a great history uh but if you lose momentum it's hard to get that ship back on track so that's why year three is always so critical yeah and again Brian Kelly in year three LSU the favorite and I think LSU is going to cover their favored as of Tuesday by four and a half points so I got LS winning and covering yes sir there's going to be no defense in that game both those defenses were bis I didn't talk about the over under I just said LSU is going to cover they're going to win by the way we gave Matt some love we love Matt liner right we love him guess what he's got a new podcast Throwbacks it launches next week and you can find it wherever you find your podcast wherever you find the triple option just go ahead and start downloading Throwbacks Matt liner and our boy Jer yeah Jerry's going to be doing enjoyed meeting Jerry good dude a good Mana Proctor on power AKA whatever the other show is too what's the other show Jerry does yeah Turtle well yeah well that was his role Entourage Entourage yeah let's go all right last pick here for the pick six brought to you by bet MGM and we're going to talk about about Florida State we talked about it at the start of the show um the seminal returned to Tallahassee on Monday and they returned in the ACC seller again that three-point loss to Georgia Tech in Dublin I'm curious where the trust level is with dju another kind of off game um I think there's going to be some Rumblings about the rest of the quarterback depth chart again Florida State though a 17 point favorite at home to Boston College our good friend Bill O'Brien back in the college game so he the new head coach at BC an extra week to prep again the Eagles went seven and six last year Patrick pton off the edge he could be a Difference Maker for Boston College they strengthen their defense through their portal their quarterback Tommy castellano's Elite Feet the arm can be a bit of a roller coaster uh and again Florida State favored by 17 83% of all the bets are going for Boston College including 90 97% of the total money and guess what in this one I'm not a leader I'm a follower um I think Florida State's going to win but Boston College guys is going to cover in Tallahassee silence silence that mean that means I nailed it I got it right well Bill O'Brien took over for Jeff Halley and Jeff Halley was like Chip Kelly he left the head coaching position at a really good school to become an assistant and uh you just wonder why you wonder you know when that all happened what what what's going on at Boston College because my friend Steve adzo was a coach there went to I don't want to say six bowl games in seven years and and BC should be a bow Team every year so I just wonder what what what is in the cupboard there what kind of players I just don't know much about Boston College but people just watch that Florida State game and I imagine that's why the the betting has changed a lot of concern in Tallahassee right now about by Florida State but by the way right Sal it you know you're going to get your loss out of the way week one and the schedule that they have in front of them um I will say this though if Mike Norville gets a chance to get up on BC because he's got to get momentum back in the program he's gonna put the pedal to the medal if he can get up on him I don't once again I don't know much about Boston I don't think anyone knows yeah there's a lot of unknowns about the team in Chestnut Hill and again BC at Florida State the null 17-point favorite but I think Boston College is going to cover so that's it guys two shows down we've got um do do we've got a big trip to West Virginia next week though you know what the game we're going to be talking about Texas on the road at Michigan big noon kickoff is going to be there as well and uh our thanks to coach Lanning who Urban by the way we we found out is uh more than open to sharing some insightful criticism oh yeah sure some critiques about our show he threw our way already like we willing to listen we willing to learn I love it coach Landing what a great what a great week when you learn you're going to earn Nick saving week one Dan Lanning week two uh wait till 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