CFB Week 2 Recap | Notre Dame vs Northern Illinois, Texas vs Michigan, Nebraska vs Colorado

[Music] we are live welcome back ladies and gentlemen I am one of your co-host Blake rafino alongside me is my counterpart and co-host and a man who's probably more Angry than anybody on the face of the planet and who's probably in sorrow Joe Deon good good morning good sir I almost wouldn't classify it as anger at this point I'm dead inside like I I have I I like I got it all kind of out yesterday and I'm probably G to dispel some anger again today when we get to it I'm dead inside I I'm legitimately dead inside we are constantly referring to Notre Dame every everybody we don't even need to explain what I'm talking about we all know what I'm talking about can't just just can't be good just can't be good Blake and I'll save my reaction for it but of course of course week two all I'll say I'm glad that I can focus on the rest of these games because I don't care what Notre Dame does for the rest of the year uh that's not true you're gonna be tuned in for every well I I I have to be I'm I'm contracted by Bleacher Report to do reactions every single [ __ ] every time they play a game so I have to be tuned in that's the horrible part about all of this that's funny yeah uh here's the thing that I think is hilarious and I kind of went on a little war path I saw I saw LSU lost to USC last week and of course here come the Notre Dame fans and then you have the guy always Irish who blistered my mentions all week only for his team to go out there and lose to Northern Illinois here's what I'm going to say and I'm dead serious about this Riley Leonard is not ready that is the bottom line it's not a Leonard thing man this all comes down to Marcus Freeman it's all on Marcus Freeman he had receivers dropping open passes he had his offensive line selling him out third down he had one drop on third down there there was an overall lack of execution that all the offense was asleep after the whole first drive and the whole the first drive was also lackluster I agree with that he's one for seven on third down though by the way you pushed back on me last last week when they went two of 10 on third down they're not efficient on third down well any normal human being any logic would have dictated that you played a really good game on the road and this is where all my frustration like really comes to to just full culmination you play a really good game on the road in a tough environment the offense struggles a little bit and then you have a cakewalk game where you paid to play them to work through your million to get your ass up you would think that those deficiencies on third down would be repped in that game because you're up by 20 points but because you didn't push your team in practice like you do all of the time Marcus Freeman you lose a game that you're supposed to win so I wasn't worried last week and now it doesn't matter after this week because their season is over I don't want to hear anyone trying to to act like it's not Notre name should not if Notre goes 11-1 they should not go to the playoff with a loss to a G5 team they shouldn't be a joke their season's not over there's a lot of things that can happen so I'm not going to say that their season's over I'm not as you know reactive are on that as you are but we'll talk about that game we do got a lot of games that we got to talk about here Joe and in no specific order Texas absolutely houses Michigan Tennessee absolutely houses NC State Nebraska which look we gotta have a serious conversation about Colorado here I kind try to tell you about that you know both lines of scrimmage you wouldn't listen it was what it was uh we got to talk about South Carolina absolutely putting the clams down on Kentucky and then Arkansas and Oklahoma State but here's how I want to start off the show this morning Joe week two in college football was drunk you had a lot of of teams that were supposed to be on the top that came out sluggish you got Oregon in a dog fight with Boise because Genty just goes off you have Oklahoma Alabama LSU all struggling out of the gate here yeah all of them win but struggling out of the gate in the SEC but I even look at some of the other teams and other programs Joe college football is drunk through week two and I got a I got a theory on this that I want to bounce off of you maybe we all need to stop worrying about nil and transfer portal and start worrying about football games because I think a lot of these kids are worried about what they're making their brand and Etc besides getting to work but college football in week one and two has been absolutely insane well the the craziest part and I think you just brought it up here a lot of the teams that are playing the best are the teams that are just on well- coached rosters really good coaching staffs teams that are playing together that have been around one another for multiple years that have been through summer workouts and Spring ball those are the teams that are playing well right now any team I'm sorry go ahead no no no no no what were we gonna say what were we gonna say you know what all of those teams have all of them have one key component you ready what they have an experienced quarterback that is and that was something that we talked about a ton in the offseason the teams that you should back are the ones with talented and experienced quarterbacks but I I think you summed it up perfectly this might have been one of the wildest week twos like talking about like the first month of the Season early weeks that I can remember because normally these games are supposed to be most of them that happened yesterday are supposed to be warm-up games we didn't have a very exciting week to slate but we had a ton of teams Kansas lost Georgia Tech was ranked and they lost Iowa was ranked and they lost we had so many teams lose and then also struggle to separate from teams that they were supposed to dominate until the fourth quarter what of the most insane weeks that I can remember and I think a lot of people can agree with that remember the statline that I gave and and picks I should have taken my own advice every four years Iowa State beats Iowa I should have taken it okay well what that that's just I I don't I hate trends like that but yeah I guess there's TR truth to it it's got to be truth to it it's a statistical fallacy that does not really mean I'm I am a superstitious human being I should have taken Iowa State I would have gone seven and three but to your point Syracuse and I know that Alex is in here we'll get to Super Chat in just a moment s hey all right all we'll get to I'm curious to see what he we we'll get to a super chat before we hit the bre sorry what were we gonna say though but I Syracuse is a very tough opponent they're tough team like Fran Brown came out yesterday in the postgame saying hey just because I'm in the Northeast I've been with Kirby and Nick do you think I was really going to be soft and I'm like damn I mean like that was that was a really good line there but Joe to your Point Oregon has had has been in two dog fights in week two now that's either gonna really propel them or really hurt them their o line I I don't know what to make of their o line and here's another here's another thing too Oklahoma Beach Houston they can't run the football like we talked about their Old Line too they cannot run the football in Houston and that we can also by the way that that Houston team got smoked by UNLV last week so that's a really bad close win for Oklahoma that's like embarrassingly bad how close that game was no doubt and then you have Bama UCF or USF excuse me I mean like now listen I mean they separated in the fourth quarter it was what it was but you know it's just very interesting to me by the we by the way I F the biggest thing that happened to me this week is one thing you want to know what I found out how to say niik im's real name and it's not was it because you're watching the broadcast and they said was watching the broadcast IA emaa you just said two different ways em alava is how he pronounces it em malava is how he wants it being pronounced okay we're sticking with Nico no no ni lava I figured it out because I watched the game and said it three different ways so I don't is how he wants to pronounce but either the way that's that's the big thing here um so we'll get into all these we got lots and lots to discuss we'll get to Notre Dame first we got some comments rolling in here why don't youall do us a favor right now hit the like and share and before we get to the break share to all your people uh elk 70 says told y'all that Texas wide receivers would run wild H they didn't run wild they didn't the tight end ran wild well they they had some good plays I'm like squinting at this second okay so Alex says Howard yeah also Howard is better than Leonard and mcord would be an upgrade over Leonard Joe Oregon on major fraud alert jeremi Smith is him oh look I don't know how you can see the statline and also the throws that Kyle McCord made in that game against Georgia Tech which is a good ACC opponent like that's not a walkover bad ACC opponent we've established that Georgia Tech is going to be a competitive tough out for everybody that play on a week week toe basis I I we can't act like there's this massive separation this was my whole point there was no massive separation between K mord and will Howard they are closer than Ohio State fans wanted to admit and he's capable of putting up big numbers and having big games here's the thing and and Alex I love you you support this show more than anybody yeah appreciate we love you serious for real we love you support this show more than anybody but let me say this Elks you haven't played anybody right and I I I think that there there comes a part two how is Will Howard going to react when he starts playing some better opponents now he could react fine but let's not act like last week that people weren't coming in here Ohio State fans talking about how sluggish they looked so I Elks you know what we're trying what I'm trying to say here we love your support here beef stick with a $5 Super Chat beef stick okay pause he says I hate the fact that I love Notre Dame my current divorce has been easier than being a fan for 32 years on this plant go Irish well first off I'm sorry for your divorce but I'm also sorry that you're an Irish fan and I'm glad that you actually like me as an Irish fan that makes me feel good well maybe congrats on your divorce you never know what situations happening there I'm not going through a divorce but it feels like it it it really feels like the the pain that I'm suffering again I'm dead inside it it feels like a breakup that you're going through because you're just watching something that you've loved and you've poured your heart into die in front of your eyes to all Notre Dame fans this one I'm gonna say because I've learned it more than most okay Joe I'm gonna say this okay and I'm not going to put it in the clip video that we're gonna have so I'm gonna say it here I also remember when LSU lost Detroit now it wasn't year three in Ed orron and then a year later or two years later won a national title with the best team ever so I'm not saying that it's program defining but Ed was in year one right and I think that it's a lot different than than the situation that Marcus Freeman's in and look I I will say this I'm gonna bring this up again later Notre Dame is not a place for a guy like Marcus Freeman to cut his teeth it's not it just isn't and so here's the truth you're gonna have to suffer through some of these things if you're a Notre Dame fan I I told you this two years wait so this is what I'm going to say [ __ ] on we're going to have to suffer through these things he shouldn't be the coach it's over this is done like I'm I'm done getting getting completely you know pie in the face I'm I'm sick of it this is embarrassing pathetic you well you have two options either you're going to let him stay and let him continue to cut his teeth and have losses like this before things are established or it's what's going to happen well it's what kind of Might at this point because you're so far into it you need to let it have happen here's what I'm going to say too you need to recruit through high school at quarterback and develop wait we wait wait we have been CJ Carr was one of the highest recruited kids in this upcoming class you have had in the last five years you've had a new starting quarterback coming in no one's been in that program for more than one year nobody they okay he's only been there for three years so him Brian Kelly included I know okay but he's on a track to be fine at recruiting and developing quarterbacks there's a lot of hype for CJ car well you're about to lose one yeah I mean they need to do everything that to keep him and du night they're not keeping him although I don't know why du Knight would want to sign up to play at Auburn with the way they looked against by the way yes another game we didn't talk about week two Cal goes into Auburn and wins jesz Mary and Joseph uh McGee with a $5 Super Chat says Weir week two even Penn Stak struggled against Bowling Green Joe again we're going to keep talking about these games and I'm gonna tell you something if it weren't for Drew Aller they were gonna lose yeah had had a big game but that was how I thought the Notre Dame game was going to pan out like I really thought that Notre Dame was going to just play like crap in the first half and and then separate but that did that didn't happen but yeah that was a weird game too that was a really weird game all right couple more than we got a really good rolling here veteran on YouTube with a $2 Super Chat says why can't Notre Dame develop a quarterback why is Portal the way I I'll get I I'll go here because LSU's had a lot of success with portal quarterbacks Joe this guy behind me yeah yeah yes yes yes yes yes I'm not disagreeing with you you you got you gotta go out and get the elite portal quarterbacks and you and here's the thing you can't worry about Riley Leonard like Joe in his first game went like 10 for 22 against Miami you got to give this more time and this is the part that I'm talking about about cutting your teeth right this is this is going to be a problem until next year now can he come back next year can Riley Leonard come back next year yeah I think he has one more year of Eligibility good good because listen until you start getting sustainability at that position you're not going to have good you're not going to have good outcomes at that position that I mean look yeah just how I believe it uh M uh Michael Mel Michael Sims Mel Michael okay Michael with a $5 Super Chat says can we stop with the Ohio State hate Kyle McCord left uh he didn't want to compete at Ohio State last week look sluggish but still beat them bad I I don't I don't really know what that means yeah I'm kind of thanks for the super chat but kind of confused with what direction that's going but there is true I mean Ohio State fans need to stop hating on comic cord like let the kid live not only let the kid live but here's the thing you can't say Michigan's been cheating and blame [ __ ] on Kyle McCord yeah that that's something that I've never I haven't been a fan of but I mean you should be rooting for the kid to do well yeah you gotta Play Somebody man and Ohio State fans I love you I have someone very close to me on that staff okay very close to me but the B the bottom line remains okay that you got to stop talking [ __ ] all right you haven't played anybody yeah and so wait until you get into a big game before you start doing that all right Joe we got lots and lots to discuss we want talk about a good buddy not Chris Gates Chris gains his his pit Panthers come all the way back into de beat cinnati talking about our good friend Chris Gates yeah Chris was hyped up after the pit win and if 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what the current pack two is undefeated respect them gotta respect them all right let's go Joe Notre Dame goes down to Northern Illinois in an outright Thriller I know that you don't like hearing that but it was a thriller of a game a hell of a game a fun game if you had no rooting interest which I did actually have a rooting interest for Northern Illinois here but your Northern illino your Notre Dame Fighting iish fall let's talk about this game what did you think of it look I said this after the Marshal loss I said this after the Stanford loss and then I allowed for myself to let Marcus Freeman prove me wrong after Louisville after Clemson I keep coming back to one thing that is so evident for Notre Dame in these types of losses they come out flat there's no attention to detail there's no aggressiveness in an opportunity to demolish an opponent that you're supposed to beat to have momentum to take pride in who you're going up against and that all comes down to the head coach plain and simple I understand a lot of people want to blame Riley Leonard I know that we're going to talk about that I know some people want to blame Mike Den Brock but when your whole team specifically your offense is not fighting on a snap toap basis and is getting punched in the mouth it means your head coach is not preparing your team during the week of practice and is not having the level of discipline necessary for your team to show up and play a great game it was one thing when it happened in year one Blake but we're in year three of this [ __ ] we're in year three I'm over it I said before I would have gladly allowed for Marcus Freeman to prove me wrong gladly absolutely would have allowed him for to him to show some things and he showed me last week but I'm done he's not the guy he is not the coach that is going to get Notre Dame to the National Championship prominence that they could possibly be at he's recruiting at a tremendous level but he does not push his guys to the level that need they need to be pushed on a week- toe basis it shows up too freaking often it is embarrassing that they lost to a pack uh a ma team absolutely embarrassing there is no recoverability from this Blake and I don't care if that is an overreaction they need to get an established sitting head coach and that needs to be the move I don't know when you get rid of him but there is no way that this turns into being a national championship contending team there's absolutely no way I'm not gonna go that far man I do think you're overreacting and let me tell you why let me get Demarcus before I get to the game hold on one second I said this two years ago when you hired him and I'm going to continue to say it every single year and me and you discussed this at Great length multiple times and had multiple debates on this when you hire a firsttime head coach at a place like Notre Dame you are going to have these bad losses and it sucks and you hate it and I understand that you're in year three I get it I 100% get it however even though Nick sabbin in the very beginning of his career had some head coaching experience as an LSU guy I'm going to tell you I'm not saying he's saving don't get what I'm saying Twisted they had some very putur losses very very very bad they lose to a Mac team they lost to ULM but that was in his first year okay he did that at Bama but he did it at LSU too they lost to UAB okay there there have been times that we have seen really good coaches okay legitimately have struggles but the problem is is that Marcus is learning on the job and that's the problem that I think that people are continuing to miss here okay hold on BL I don't mean to cut you off but we said this last year after the Louisville game we said this last year after the Clemson game and at least those games were against competitive ACC teams it was one team that went to the ACC Championship game it's year three they lost a ma team a ma team Joe you've never hired a coach that's never been you've never had at Notre Dame and maybe in a long time you've never had a coach that's never been a head coach before you hired him you're going to have these situations now okay wait wait wait of course he's given the look I understand what you're saying that like he he should be given a little Grace for like oh no I'm not giving him Grace I'm not giving him Grace what I'm doing here is is just advising that when you make a move like this and your ad okay doesn't want to be that guy Notre Dame should let me tell you what Notre Dame should be okay and you push back on me on this all the time Notre Dame should be and I hate to say it like this they should start putting their nuts on the table with as much money as they have they should be running the sport and doing whatever they want but here's the thing that continues to plague you you you settled and you will continue to settle now here's where I'm going to defend Marcus Raymond to this part Joe Northern Illinois had 190 rushing yards on you and then Antonio Brown kid went absolutely bananas now the part in this is yes it is Marcus Freeman's job to get this team up it's Marcus Freeman's job to get them Inspire for every single game but at what point during that game did that really good Elite defense not look each other in the eye and say man we got to put this team away we that's Marcus Freeman's responsibility that's his responsibility for they they play whole game Ben Morrison gave up a crucial third down on Third and eight because he got beat not on Marcus that's on you not want that's not on you not wanting to be there and here's another thing too but that's the coach's responsibility to to motivate his team want to be there Joe you can't put it all on Marcus when you have three defensive linemen they're getting their [ __ ] pushed in sorry when you have wait wait when you have guys that are good enough to dominate in those games it's on your head coach to not motivate them when they're down 16 to 14 or when they're down early in the game or they're tied early in the game at what point did they look each other in their in the eye when when did they quote unquote look their yourself in the mirror and say you know what we're kind of getting our asses beat and we better turn it up I've never seen Marcus Freeman this this something I pointed out yesterday to Sean I've never seen Marcus Freeman go up to guys on the sideline and yell at them and try to motivate them to try to get them motivated sure yeah it it would be great if the defense rallied around themselves but why isn't the freaking head coach doing that why is it why do we have to rely on the players to motivate themselves he is the head coach he does nothing to motivate them no Elite dudes govern themselves and you okay I no come on man we this is you're making an excuse for Marcus Freeman he no I'm no he done this too many times there's no more excuses that can be made no they lined up ran it right at you and you're and how cross that dline got their [ __ ] pushed in let's call it because of the head coach he is on the field talk about he on the sideline just standing there Stone faac emotion defensive lineman got his [ __ ] pushed in Blake when this when wait when this did he not no no stop for stop stop stop stop when your when your team does this multiple times I have watched this happen five times now against weaker opponents it has to go on the coach we can't keep finding different reasons for like oh well maybe it was this this game well yeah the defensive line didn't play well oh well Riley Leonard uh you know made some really bad decisions the general tone the general tone and feel of this team was pathetic it was effortless we have to look in the mirror and acknowledge that it is the head coach is responsible for for rallying his team at halftime okay can we get past that for just a second okay Define what happened in the running game against Notre Dame because here's the truth two things happened in this game why you lost in my opinion you couldn't stop them running the football at a consistent basis especially on third and fourth down and then on and then you you got away from running the football now I love Mike more than anybody but Mike has a tendency of getting away from running the football Jeremiah Love should have had 25 touches after he broke that long run yeah so again you say whatever you want about Marcus Freeman I got I understand what you're saying but there comes a part where you couldn't line up dominate Northern Illinois and then you got away from the running game that's what got you beat if a business is failing and you know everybody's making mistakes across the board you have to and you will go and look the man running the operation the CEO is the one who is making the mistakes you have to you have to point to that if a if a if a ship is crashing and going down it all comes down to who is piloting that ship who was the captain of that ship sorry I love you to death you can't come in here and blame everything on this on him when you have multiple hold on when you have multiple all all-americans okay a Bros award finalist okay and you know what else you can't do Marcus Freeman I guarantee you would not have told Riley Leonard to throw that deep post into double coverage sorry I'm I'm not absolving everyone else of blame there were there were tons of issues right Leonard played a bad game Mike denrock called a horrible game they should not have been throwing a deep post when you have four minutes to go to just close out the game that was insan he had Chris Mitchell open at the sticks but he they shouldn't take that shot anyways they should have just ran they should have just ran the ball ran out the clock the game would have been over and you get out of there but they're trying to put points up the on the board so it looks like they won by more points than they actually did but BL my my issue and what I'm going to keep repeating is that if this was a one-off instance and this happened one time and it's just a frustrating bad loss it'd be one thing but when we're in year three and the same problem keeps happening that does not happen for other teams around the country top teams don't do this they don't lose to Mac opponents at home in year three when you have National Championship expectations you just don't let's get to something that we talked about all off season Joe I'm going to look again what have I been telling you about Riley Leonard all off season I'm going to let I'm gonna let you tell me because I don't want to be that guy what have I been telling you about Riley Leonard all it wasn't good enough of a passer that he wasn't a good enough of a passer but what was the bigger thing what I don't I don't remember that when you miss that much time with a new OC and you're not on the field doing it [ __ ] like this is going to happen now well that's the whole point of that game is to reestablish that chemistry that's the whole point of game they don't have chemistry to start off with you can't reestablish chemistry when you've never had it so the depost I I I'm gonna be a little real with you I don't know how much I blame Riley Leonard don't get what I'm saying Twisted but there's a chemistry issue there now Riley is in a very interesting situation I texted you when he threw that first interception Joe he panicked and that first interception that he's trying to check down to is a bad throw it's a bad decision and and look listen as somebody who has conversations and had conversations with Mike and covered him the last two years knowing Mike's off offense the way that I do and have seen the last two years that is not the way that it's supposed to be run Mike's Mike's offense is predicated predicated on Dunk Dunk Dunk deep Dunk Dunk Dunk deep that's all he does and then he'll get some running game in there Riley something is off with the communication between him and den Brock on how they want to accomplish the game plan but here's a here's the big thing and I love Mike Joe the bottom line was he got away from running the football Jeremiah loves a dude he that that kid is a dude and getting away from him I I think he had 11 Carri 79 yards why are you not giving him the football more that see this is why I'm saying to some extent and this has got to be on Marcus when you hire a guy like when you hire a guy like Den Brock he's got to be yelling at Den Brock saying run the damn football if I'm going to blame Marcus about something the thing that I blame on him the most is not getting in Den Brock's ear and saying run the football but this is my whole point what it all comes back to Marcus very clearly he's not you can tell that he's not confrontational because again we have never panned to the sideline and seen Marcus Freeman walking over to his offensive line and saying guys you need to lock in you need to get focused it's always just him standing there in his tight do you really think that he's not doing that by the way I don't have evidence of it and the way that they play suggest that and to your point yeah he probably should have pressed Mike denrock and I know that he didn't I know that he didn't no he probably didn't here's another thing too before we wrap up this game yeah essentially you had four turnovers you had the two interceptions by Riley Leonard and the two block field goals that's basically four turnovers right yeah Joe when you have that many turnovers you are not going to you legitimately are not going to win football games and I'll say this too Joe you have a problem on offense you have a massive problem and it starts it starts with Riley Leonard you better line you better line up and start running the football because until you start giving that kid more reps in this offense you're GNA continue to have problems or Here's a thought you did it with Jane Daniels in 22 run the piss out of Riley Leonard run the piss out of him run the football you hire here's what I think has happened you hire Mike Den Brock thinking that you were going to have a highflying offense and Joe I'm going to tell you something you're going to hate you don't have the weapons on the outside the way that you think that you do you don't I hate that you come I I think it was just poorly schemed in execution of trying to get those guys the ball there was no separation from your wide receivers to their DBS and you know that the the route Concepts that they were calling were I I don't I don't I still refuse to accept that I think that there's plenty of receivers that were not set up in a position to succeed again it it's a it's a coaching it's completely a coaching issue but I mean like I can't wait for them to fix these issues and to play in the Mayo bow like the Duke's Mayo bow like I can't wait for that man it's really exciting stuff what they're doing it's just really competitive great football that yeah you know tough loss they're GNA they'll rebound they'll figure it out they're going to figure it out and they're going to go nine and three they're going to play in the Duke's Mayo bow really highly accomplishable stuff Marcus Freeman's [ __ ] it's that he's not the guy the quicker that they realize that the better for noted aame fans and they need to have a higher standard go get Eli drinkwitz go get Bill O'Brien I think that if the Giants fire Brian dball that should be the guy that they hire who Brian debal go hire an NFL guy you want Notre Dame to hire Brian deal I think Brian dbal is a great coach with a really crappy situation because he's screwed over by Daniel Jones I would absolutely believe in him he you he don't like the recruiting like that Joe you know you know who you know maybe think of him wait you know what maybe think of him Pete Carroll Pete Carroll was fired by the Patriots and then we saw what he did USC listen to me you don't want that for your program I do okay we need somebody who's been relationship with somebody that I had with on the Alabama staff and now is at Ohio State I'm telling you D ball hates recruiting all right yeah go ahead go ahead and hire him see what yeah you know what know what he loves recruiting he loves recruiting go hire him I'd rather have I'd rather have a guy that screams at his team than one who recruits and and doesn't doesn't get them up no you don't trust me no you don't all right you want to get to Texas Michigan yeah let's do it Joe Texas absolutely obliterates no I probably shouldn't start off like that hold on no they o they obliterated them correct okay Texas goes up to Ann Auburn absolutely manhandles Michigan in a really good game for Texas when you looked at this game a noon kickoff I thought it was really competitive early what did you think of this Texas Michigan game yeah um I talked about this whole offseason that I thought that this Texas team was going to really prove themselves potentially early and I I thought that their secondary was going to be a lot a lot better their secondary played great I know it wasn't exactly against a super potent passing attack but they made some plays their coverage was really strong I thought that their defensive line stepped up in situations when they needed to I'm not going to fully go in on the Texas will beat Georgia not going to do that but I think that I was affirmed that this Texas team deserves to be in that top four National Championship contending conversation I am replacing them with Oregon I think that Texas is going to go on a tremendous run this year and it all comes down to the performance on defense but more importantly the way that Quinn yers has taken the step forward that I needed to see which is he is no longer hesitating that I feel is completely out of his game certainly there are going to be mistakes but he's willing to trust his traits and his teammates to make play into aack downfield and that is what makes this team dangerous what makes any team dangerous when you have a quarterback with a big arm that can fit the ball into Tight Windows and is willing to take those risks he is no longer being overly hesitant like we saw in the past I'm believing in this Texas this Texas team until they prove me otherwise I feel really good about them they were very very dominant in this game from the minute that it kicked off I see Steve in the chat said that Texas established to run there is one concern I I have have Ryan Wingo the long Ryan Wingo play was technically a rush that was given on the stat sheet Joe outside of that they had 88 rushing yards I agree with you Quinn ERS being the H having the experience you know what he went in there I feel like him and Sark did don't overreact Dink and dunk him down the field and let's go score because they're not it felt like that they knew that Michigan wasn't gonna score right like their game plan their thought process was like Hey man we know for a fact that they're not going to be able to score on us don't don't give him them reasons to be in the football game right like it's not as if that Texas came out there and did things elaborate look Quinn went 24 of 36 I thought he did like you said Joe made some really good throws thought he had some throws that he could have gotten back to you know what I mean like missing 12 of those passes like there were multiple times he could have sustained drives and didn't but here's the thing that won them the game and why they continue to look dominating it's because their offense was on the field the whole damn time yeah they went 10 of 16 on third down they completely did whatever they want in the passing game on third down wink Martell got out out coached sorry I mean it's not as if Michigan doesn't have the dudes sarkeesian put one on them and they were just constantly on the field Joe I I I don't want to say it like this because I think Texas had a really good performance because it's really tough to go up to Ann Arbor and win I think think that this Michigan team is just might be that bad though like if you're running like here's the thing that Sark said in the post game I wouldn't listen to it this morning Joe when Alex ory ran out there he literally said that they were blitzing that they were going full after because they knew he wasn't going to throw the football and I think that that has a part to do with they have no identity on offense and they have a guy that was a former walk on who they're trying to get established with guys Joe with guys on the side they can't get moving and by the way when Davis Warren was moving the football down the field lovelin fumbles the football like he's not getting any breaks either and then one of the interceptions his receiver stops because he doesn't think he's getting the football I mean it's just they were so clunky in so many areas man look I I mean I agree with you I think that this Michigan team is going to obviously take a step back and that was the whole conversation that we had in the preview that we were very wary of that they they have a lot of deficiencies especially on offense trying to throw the football but they're still like a at least in eight and4 maybe nine and three football team they're still really good on defense I don't think that we should take anything away from Texas I really don't I don't want to either but you can't look at what Michigan did offensively and say to ourselves like Hey Joe we I think Texas was challenged don't get me wrong especially their offense was challenged but Joe having 88 rushing yards outside the one long technical run by Ryan Wingo Joe you couldn't run the football well I mean wait wait wait wait hold on one second they're they're doing that against a really good defensive line and also we need to we need to remember here the injuries that they had at running back coming into the season and then Jaden blue I think it was an ankle issue he got banged up early in that game I think for the offensive success that they had with all of these injuries at running back it actually makes me feel better about Tex it really does I I'm GNA preview this and I don't want I'm not going to talk about it long can't do that against Georgia though obviously obviously that's what I'm trying trying to set up here look I thought Quinn was highly efficient I mean Gibson went 10 of 36 I mean three yards a carry uh blue had nine for 22 the other back had nine for 30 again that's the part that I'm talking about there's one thing that Texas that I wanted to see how they looked was how did they produce in the running game against a really good front seven they didn't produce well at all and I Texas fans are going to get mad in the chat I I could care less about that I wan to I want to take a look though Joe at at we already talked about Michigan here too but let me ask you this it was announced this week that Chiron Moore doesn't have a contract okay and that was weird so what do you think about that I mean you're going into this situation your head coach doesn't have a contract and you look like like you do offensively Joe I do think that they might be in a little bit of trouble if they can't score then what well there's a lot of teams that they're going to face in the Big 10 that like their offense is going to be better than theirs I I don't know if top my head who they play but like teams like Minnesota and Maryland are not going to really threaten them I think that they're going to be fine um but the whole Chiron Moore thing is really weird and it's really concerning because it kind of makes me wonder if they're waiting to see what the punishment handed down to him is and if they just want be able to quickly cut ties if there's a severe allegation against him for Cheating in the manner that he did um I I I I don't understand the the point of it though like I don't understand which side is being so hesitant I agree with you though that there are issues though with Michigan clearly offensively you know what I thought about the first time that this thing happened with Chiron Moore boy does Michigan get could Michigan get out of this one pretty easily I still think that Chon Moore is a great coach and that he's going to figure it out he he was he's being handed probably one of the worst situations a firsttime head coach could possibly be handed which is um so you're him more grace than Marcus Freeman you talked about earlier yeah because this his first year it's his first year he's he's stepping into into a situation where your team is being accused of ridiculous or not ridiculous because they're true but massive allegations of cheating and on top of this you're also losing your entire offense and a ton of defensive players he was given a really bad hand of cards and we're expecting him to hit a royal flush it's just it's not going to happen I I'll give shl more three years year three if he's still doing this crap and they're and they can't play against big opponents then we'll have a different conversation I think he's a sacrificial lamb it does kind of feel like that which sucks it feels like he's a sacrificial lamb because Joe here's the truth he's the pending head coach but he's not the head coach and I'm going to tell you what's about to start happening in Michigan too if you're Ohio State and they got some recruits on their program or you phone's going to be ringing hey man they don't even trust in the head coach because they think he's cheating and when that snowball starts going down the hill it gets really bad all right let's get you want to get to Tennessee and uh and NC stay here we got a lot more we got Nebraska we got Kentucky South Carolina Arkansas Oklahoma State so we got a lots to talk about Tennessee takes on North Carolina State Joe yester and look man this was an outright beating and I got to say this about Tennessee a lot of we talked about this in the offseason about Tennessee that I think people don't realize everybody looks at Josh hypo and says man they're flashy offense very flashy on all the things that they do the running game in defense on what you and I talked about all off season is coming to play out Dylan Samson running the football that front seven defense they showed up and showed out last night for the volunteers it was really annoying to me this week that when we both put Tennessee in our top 10 because we said watch watch what's going to happen this week everybody just just sit sit down for a second watch what's going to happen against ten state and you're going to understand why we put them there so many people pushed back and you know what I was quickly reaffirmed on that we said last week this team is really well-rounded they belong in the bucket of top teams that can contend for a national title I know that that bucket's a little big right now but we're in week two too we can throw out six seven names until things start to whittle themselves down and injuries happen and uh you know certain guys start to to slow down being hot I was affirmed that this offensive line is freaking fantastic that they're able to create um easy rushing lanes for Dylan Samson they're able to protect Nico I I was really affirmed on one key thing Nico was the perfect quarterback for the system I wouldn't be shocked if he's not getting attention for the Heisman at the end of the year but more importantly next season we're going to be having some serious conversations of him as the Heisman favorite first overall favorite this team with how they play on offense how quickly they can score points and how smothering and the same thing we said about Miami last week smothering aggressive downhill turnover creating on defense makes them a tough out against anybody that they play that was a ranked top ACC NC State team that they made look like an FCS program they are really freaking good and they could be top five good in the next few weeks okay here's how I want to break that down number one I think Nico I malava here there you go um I thought he finally looked human if that makes sense the interception that he had it was an overthrow that got picked off and then the second interception his arm gets hit the ball flies up and it gets picked I'm kind of in a way if I'm a Tennessee fan a little bit happy about that let me explain why because now hypo gets to correct him on certain things on what he should and shouldn't be doing I thought he had a great game I thought he still looked really good and really efficient great throw of the football 16 of 23 to1 and two and two but Joel the thing that's helping him right now that a lot of young quarterbacks don't have is Dylan Samson 20 carries 132 yards and two touchdowns they're running the football and playing good defense you know I think of the will Brooks pick six last night as something like hey man you don't have to do this on your own so those shots that you're taking you don't have to take them because we're going to make these stops for you now we'll get to NC State in a minute but Joe where the game was won last night why I think it's starting to be a little bit of hey man what can this Tennessee team be is it's not the highflying throwing the ball all over the place that people associate hypo with it's that they're running the football at an efficient rate now they're going to get tested against Oklahoma they're going to get tested in these next couple of weeks but they're shutting down the run and running the football and going right at you you know there was a play where Nico got hit out of bounds and then the very next play the offensive line I I forget to player for NC State they absolutely drove him out of bounds got flag for it you know they pretty much Michael Ed him on a double team they are a nasty group up front now they're going to get tested and we're going to see how good they they're going to be but when I look at Tennessee and I and I see that Nico still ran for 65 yards in a touchdown and Samson did what he did Joe I I think it's what we talked about in the offseason with them on paper they look like they're more balanced than anybody's given them credit for coming into the season that's where I keep coming back to I feel like um just generally a lot of apprehension for some reason to like really back Tennessee I think a lot of people were hesitant of like are they gonna falter anywhere the welled you got Oklahoma you got I mean look you're going there that's going to be a tough game and you know Oklahoma's gonna play up to that you got Georgia you got Bama yeah and Joe here's the thing that I'm trying to I want to be cautious where I think Tennessee may be good I still understand that they got three defensive lines that they're about to face in the next couple of weeks or next couple of months that okay it's one thing to do this against NC State can you do that against the big dogs that's the part that they're going to have to answer obviously there's still time to be proven but we're like we're in week two and we're going off of these teams facing against lesser opponents so we don't have enough true evidence to know how do you step up in the big games because that's where the real separation is that's where the separation is where ton times we'll have these really talented types of teams like Tennessee but they don't know how to get up for a big game also I just love to keep ding bringing this back to Marcus Freeman that's how a team's supposed to look in year three that's how a team's supposed to look in year three under their head coach well it's year four fiveable is it yeah I think it's year four is year four never mind ignore me I'm just being a dick um well it's what it looks here's what it looks like too when your Collective and your Administration and your coaching staff is aligned and you get quarterbacks and you're getting good offensive and defensive linemen they are they are very established at Tennessee from top to bottom you know coaches talk about then use the cliche word alignment all the time that's what alignment looks like Georgia that's what alignment looks like so we'll we'll see how they look here's something that I look at them though Joe that that worries me just a little bit okay Nico got confused by under underwhelming secondary there were some throws that he got really confused in now I'm talking about that for the beginning part of the season because he's going to be a superstar I just want like for example I think Brent vinal can throw throw some really weird things at you you get what I'm saying like he can he can dial some things up so if there is a concern I would say that but it's not a massive concern I'm I'm trying to be very nitpicky on this yeah I mean I I understand what you're saying but like I almost like don't even if I'm a Tennessee fan I'm like not even like worrying about that because it's his third ever start the pick that he threw that was an overthrow it always comes back to what I talk about with these talented quarterbacks that have thre in a triple cover that's the well no well not necessar he really necessarily throw that in triple coverage he he was breaking down the middle of the field it was a really tight window that he knew he had the arm to take that risk but he misfired and he overthrew it which led to the interception the thing that I always come back to with quarterbacks there it as as gifted as Nico like cord Quin yers um Jackson dart's another guy that I think of that's got got really good traits these guys that can take these risks I want to see them take the risks because sometimes they're not going to pay they're not going to pay out but when they do then your offense is going to be able to produce huge chunk plays and you can really stress defenses so risks to me are are are not an issue I I confusion is reps it's more opportunities to learn to your point I like I just said to all Tennessee fans that want to come in here I'm being very nitpicky you know what else I want to see niiko do I think he wants to stay in the pocket a little too much to some extent use had L usism and go get yeah he's a he he could I think he could use his legs a little more I think that that would be great for if he got on a phone call with Jaden Daniels I think that that or Lamar or anybody hooker his the guy who was there really benefit him a little bit look man we we put Tennessee in our top 10 last week got a lot of push back by people for us putting Tennessee in our top 10 doesn't look that bad now Joe any thoughts on NC State they shouldn't have been ranked and I'm done talking I'm talking about done talking about the ACC you know I don't think that the ACC is going to really put up much of a fight there is one good really good team and that's Miami and we're going to just see the rest of these teams cannibalize one one another the rest of the year I I it could be the most random second highly ranked ACC team it's probably going to be Clemson maybe Syracuse sneaks their way in there Georgia Tech will probably be in that conversation I'm gonna throw this out there I love the way I know it's at State I love the way that Clemson responded do you know so we didn't give I didn't we don't give betting picks on the show uh my betting pick my lock of the week was Abate yeah was that dbo was going to cover against AB State because of course he shows up and completely knocks the crap out of a completely meaningless opponent so that he can act all all smug and oh look look how good we are look at how we put up 60 points look how potent this offense is it's the most Dabo thing that could have happened but yeah it's a it's a nice win for them I hope maybe maybe it'll do something for him look will Brooks's pick six was phenomenal and great play great play they're really good on on defense here's the thing Grayson McCall is trying to stream up paddle without a without a or go up stream Without a Paddle dude has no outside of concepion and Hollywood he has nobody and I feel bad for him I don't think this NC State team's that good all right let's get to Nebraska Colorado we got a couple more games here Joe Colorado goes to Lincoln Nebraska and absolutely gets pushed around I'm not going to how do I want to say this I'm not going to BS around this because last week I came on this show and got a lot of Hate by Colorado fans I don't know when I I I literally went through all of our YouTube comments and asked hey how long have you been a Colorado fan to all the Colorado fans there's one thing that I told you that was gonna happen and it played out your o line and dline was going to get pushed around and Joe Nebraska came out and physically dominated up front in my humble opinion from the first snap to the last snap and beats Colorado 28 to10 and I want to say this too Nebraska fans were in our comments all week telling us and I quote this is the biggest game that we've had in the last seven years and they showed up and they showed out it meant more to them than Colorado by a long stretch I I think like the biggest takeaway for also wait first by the way I've said this too many times I'm done talking about Colorado I I can't believe I win you picked in the win yeah no but that's my that's my point is like I'm I'm sick of this like there's no there's no reason to support them and and I let the the love that we got after the first week from the Colorado fans kind of go to my head I'll be completely honest with that and I completely deeply regret it Nebraska though on the other hand it really showed the difference between these two teams in the way that they're building The rosters I think that Matt Matt rule is developing an amazing Foundation you've got this gunslinging quarterback who is going to stick around and help develop and recruit this team and bring in better players I think if they have a great portal Hall next season they're going to be a top Big 10 team they're going to be a playoff team knocking on the door they have a physical offensive line they have a physical defensive line they have the makings of a team that is going to continue to get better and better every single year and Matt rule another one of these guys just like Bill O'Brien who gets clowned on by NFL fans because he wasn't meant for those opportunities but is really just such a good coach and a great leader of men that he is deserving of recognition of being a tremendous motivator team Builder all of those things only thing on Colorado Blake um just like we saw and we talked about with Florida State you can't you can't build a team through the portal you just can't the the lack of communication and flow and Chemistry Between just the interior of the offensive line just that grouping your Center and two guards the amount of pressures that we watched in the past two weeks come up the middle and completely blow up plays inability to run the ball up the middle inability uh for shador to have a clean pocket you can't build by recruiting through the portal this much and it's blowing up in in Deion Sanders's face he needs to he absolutely needs to recruit better at the high school level look it's going to take a couple of years no it's not he had two years and he didn't do it I mean he he he pushed a lot of people out of Dory you know the Louis bag thing I'm bringing my my luggage and it's called Louis or what however he he claimed it Joe they have no team culture they have no team chemistry and this is what I was talking about in the pre the pre-show when we broke this game down I looked at last week and Colorado fans pushed back at me you can't run the football and the best thing that you can help a quarterback with is running the football Joe 22 rushes 16 yards they lined up they were down seven to nothing they went for it on fourth down it was fourth and a half a yard and they can't get a half a yard that's insane that's insane it's not no no it's not because when you recruit the o line the way that Dion did okay it's built when you can't build an offensive line and defensive line like that through the portal you got to establish recruiting through high school and developing you can't do what he's doing doesn't matter because he's only there for a probably for specific reasons anyway Joe I'm gonna say this and you're gonna you're not GNA agree with me Dylan Rola out play chador Sanders oh I agree with that I completely agree with that but way by the way before before you finish your thought so I had a lot of Nebraska fans that were like pissed at me because I made the statement that he tries to do too much we can't we can't compare him to Patrick Mahomes and Caleb Williams and not acknowledge that that archetype of quarterback likes to take risks one of the touchdowns that he had the last touchdown that he had he threw the ball into cover almost got picked and it bounced into his receiver's hands for a touch good thing that you're willing to take those risks but trying to do too much is not a bad thing for a Young quarterback it pays off sometimes like it did on that play and sometimes it leads to turnovers but your your point on Rola I agree here's another thing shadur doesn't have any help when it comes to pass block or pass a run game any of it Joe Nebraska had six sacks he looked confused when the crowd got really loud he had a pick six in the red zone and here's the thing that I I talk about why the running game is so big you know Joe I'm G to be real with you I don't blame the run I don't blame the pick six on shador let me tell you why it's first and 10 from the three yeah you gota you got to be able to run the football you're putting your quarterback everybody knows that he's throwing the football Matt rule in the postgame said this he said when when they caught the pick six you know what he told his defense guys they're not going to run the football like bite on anything when they're throwing and they did and caught a pick six I think that shador is a going to be a really good quarterback the problem is is that he has zero help around him and he set it for failure by Pat Shermer who sucks who's the offensive coordin can I be real with you I'm gonna be real with you I know you hate Pat shmer but let me tell you this Pat shmer isn't developing in reference or he's not building the team through recruiting that's not his what he was supposed to come in and do that's a look I get I get that but he called a lazy game like he always does let me tell you why he didn't call a lazy game you know why why you defending all these coaches today I don't understand why you keep defending these coaches here's sucks I'm not defending Pat shmer what I'm doing is is that is his his head coach kicked an entire offensive line out and put him in the portal meanwhile they can't get a yard that's not on Pat Shermer that's not that part that that part isn't but also his play calling was was inept like you just pointed out why are we throwing the ball with your with your quarterback standing in the end zone because they can't run the ball and he knows that cry give it a shot he did Joe 22 rushes 16 yards that's not that many rushing attempts okay fair but you still can't run the football here's the thing think it's the I hope this gets clipped here's the thing with Colorado they are they are not good no that's why I'm done talking about them I mean they'll be lucky to scrape together six and six that's there was a play that chador over threw Travis Hunter and Travis Hunter comes over to Dion as complaining their culture is not good enough to win football games at this at this league no no it's just not so look here's what let me ask you about this before we we move on Jo Nebraska uh uh I'm not going to say there a contender but is Nebraska a team that you could see get nine eight nine wins this season I think this year they're good enough with a winnable schedule to go eight and four and then next year and we're going to spend the whole offseason talking about them as a as a big 10 Contender I I really I it's we need to have some foresight without getting too amped up because this team is Young I totally see the vision like I really totally see what Matt Ru is trying to do that is a program being built the right way I see it for next year I don't see it I don't see nine and three this year that requires like to be super well-rounded and I think that just the youth is one thing that's going to catch up to you when you play your you know your tough Big 10 opponents the only thing the only thing that I worry about with Nebraska and rola's just gonna have to work through this three and 12 on third down okay he made a lot of throws in front of the sticks and he's going to have to learn in the in games like this you got to throw beyond the six on third down here's another thing too Joe uh shador Sanders was three of 11 on third down horrible abysmal all right we got a couple more before we get out of here want to go to Kentucky and South Carolina well well I kind of wanted to opt out of that I want to I want to talk about Oregon and I want if we're getting get to two more games can we talk about Oregon and can we talk about Arkansas no you no no I admittedly did not get enough of an eye on the South Carolina game to talk about it that's of course you did I was watching that I had to watch the Notre Dame game all right well can I go on a tangent for about South Carolina for five minutes all right go ahead all right we're not going to break the game down then allegedly but here's what I want to say about South Carolina Joe I get that what they're doing doesn't look pretty and I know that Kentucky offensively is horrendous but we need to have a serious conversation now they placed LSU this week meaning South Carolina Jo I don't know if Shane Beamer didn't recruit a defense of front seven that is not freaking really good Joe they're I wouldn't I wouldn't go as far to say really good I think it's a good defensive front and we knew out of the ODU game that they were gonna be tough in two games they're only allowing eight points a game that's number three in the country yeah but they played ODU and they played a Kentucky offense that was extremely overhyped no what we thought we thought here's what here's what happened in that game South Carolina did exactly what we thought that Kentucky would do yes yeah and I'm going to be real with you Lenor sers made enough good throws against a really good defense that beat him yeah I I just I I don't know if I jump right into that did all right you better get it's a it's a it's a really strong defensive line but is a dude absolutely absolutely is they've got some very they've got some very good players but I just I'm not going to completely jump down the I will never give Beamer credit that he deserves let's go to Oregon Boise State then y Joe Oregon wins a thriller against Boise State I'm going to kick it over to you A lot of people are panicking on Oregon I guess I'm just gonna kick kick it over to you very quickly your thoughts on Oregon barely a field goal game getting out of there beating Boise State uh uhh what are your thoughts yeah I think that the Panic is Justified because when you're a really good team you're I think you're always allowed one bad performance against a worse team which they had against Idaho you can't play the way that you did you can't play the way that you did in back-to-back weeks against boy zate a lot of the same issues and deficiencies showed up in this game and they're going to continue to show up when they face off with Ohio State in a few weeks they're their offensive line is seriously having issues they're allowing way too many pressures on on Dylan Gabriel they're not running the ball as effectively as they can and they're overly rying on throwing the ball throwing the ball and more importantly man they are giving up way too many huge rushing gains to opponents they did a little bit against Idaho but Ashton gy who's probably the best running back in the country was our number two back me two back yeah our number three back I think he was my number two I don't know if he was on your top five no he was he was in my he was my number three I went back he was my he was in my top five okay um I remember b a lot of Boise State fans were mad at you for something I forget what because I said he's not Elite um boy do I look like an idiot yeah uh he exposed that defense there there could be some serious problems down the line I think that this this Oregon team is strong but they're going to lay an egg I I really think that this Oregon team's going to lay an egg I'm sorry I'm sorry to be the bearer of that news all right I I think that there is reasons for concern Ste this dude Steve in the in the chat hates my guts man I'm just going to throw that out there oh well Steve you're still in here watching and every time you watch I get paid so jokes on you um so listen by the way I'm not wrong went 13 and seven last two weeks you can kiss my ass all right um here's the thing that I think about with Oregon I agree with you I think it is a I'm not going to say it's time to panic because Joe what's the word panic mean right like I mean Panic is when you lose one of these games Panic is Notre Dame right now sorry I don't mean to cut I don't mean it like that I mean that's true I mean it is time to panic if you are a Notre Dame fan it's time to panic I don't I'm not there yet okay yeah with Oregon no I I agree with you here's the thought that I had watching that game last night that I can't get out of my mind two things Joe if they if Boise State had a better quarterback outside of madx Madson they probably are going to win that football game yes because he went 17 to4 he was very inefficient but then number two how bad is Malachi Nelson right like I I mean well I mean we don't need to waste time on that because that has no implications on either of these team but Jo here's the thing you almost got beat by a team and they barely can throw the football that's the real talking point they're lining up and running it right at you now I don't I mean you're facing Ohio State in a couple weeks and they got two backs just as capable as Genty now I don't want to take anything away from jenty as well because Ashton jenty dude 192 yards in three touchdowns do what put the team on his back I I mean absolutely went off but that front seven for Oregon That was supposed to be his strength got pushed around I I mean Joe they're stacking the box and it didn't matter they're literally here's the thing that I thought about last night too Joe the last long run go back and watch it they had eight dudes in the Box eight and it did matter well let me add to that too you talked about how the front seven was supposed to be a strength the offensive line was also supposed to be a strength you're two t the offensive line though too I I can't do that because they're banged up there very banged up on the offensive line but they were giving up pressures off from their tackles and their tackles are supposed to be two of the best in the country and I look I just am underwhelmed when a team when your position groups that are supposed to be an anchor or not forget about playing well not carrying your team that's a problem like that's a problem that we thought that those were supposed to be your biggest strengths and they're not panning out the way that we thought I'm not saying that this Oregon team is going to completely crap the bed like Florida State and that they're going to completely fall apart not what I'm saying this still a really gifted team but they're not they're not National Championship ready they're just not they're not there yet they're a couple years away of of getting where they need to be they are deficient where they need to be dominant and it's going to catch up to them when they play other of the these top teams in the Big 10 this isn't the Pack 12 anymore well Joe if that's the case we've said this about Notre Dame we've said this about Oregon then who's going to make the playoff well uh well I mean some of the teams that the teams that we've backed that I feel good about Tennessee Tennessee Miami um we know that Georgia is good we know that Texas is good we know that Old Miss looks pretty good until they get tested I mean they're playing Ferman I don't know we we we hyped up Tennessee after they beat the crap out of an NFC actually played FBS opponent well but I think that I think if to what besides the point but you're right this it feels I think that the playoff field is going to be so it's going to be so off from everybody's predictions and Oregon's proof of that you know what Joe you have a I'm going to throw this out there about the Big 10 you have a USC team that's out there that doesn't look that damn bad now do they I think that I forget if Oregon plays USC I think that they do yeah they play USC I forget what weak it is I I might pick USC in that game I really might as much as that hurts me USC's defense is is insane and I'm gonna tell you man you better not let Lincoln start getting that running game going like they did last night yeah I mean look Joe here's how I would how I'd frame this if Boise State's pushing you around there's going to be a a lot of teams in the Big 10 they're going to push you around too that's how that conference Works they're going to line up and run the ball right at you and if you can't stop that you're in you're in trouble now I don't think I don't know outside of Ohio State if anybody has a back as good as jinty but they got better offensive lines than Boise you state that's for D yeah that's where the real not good bud yeah you're gonna be playing a big 10 schedule that's going to try and run the ball and establish the run it could be it could be really sobering dropping a game to a random mid-level Big 10 team because they run the ball well I know Penn State you know was in a dog fight but uh Joe you start getting to a point these couple of teams in the top of the Big 10 you know there's Penn State who has a very favorable schedule throughout here you know what do they look like and I'm going to tell you the truth a lot look what what do we talk about in the preview of LSU versus USC you know what was the biggest thing that I hated everybody [ __ ] on Lincoln all offseason and they and here's the thing they took it more personal than anybody they read the pr press clippings they went full Rocky Balboa and Rocky four jogo they did I mean dude they are a Joe the simple fact that they lined up yesterday and and did whatever they want to and then won against LSU I don't know if USC is not a a contender here that people need to watch out for they're saying that Oregon does not play USC I guess that's weird why don't they play USC why wouldn't you deliberately schedule the West Coast teams to play each other year Well Michigan plays USC in a couple of weeks do they not I believe that they do and I'm going to tell you Joe that's going to be another is that game an in orber I don't think it is me see dude USC might be back they oh wait they have oh no USC has a buy already and then week four uh that's that's in an arbor they go to an arbor and win USC might be back dude you get leaking you give Lincoln two weeks to prepare for Michigan oh God I hate it I hate it so much at least they didn't lose to Northern Illinois all right let's wrap it up here [ __ ] you you deserve that you glad we went an hour and 15 minutes on the show before I brought that up and said something like that all right let's wrap it up with Arkansas and Oklahoma State m Joe I hate it for Arkansas fans right now now they were in our comments all week saying that they were going to blow out Oklahoma State and I just and they were going to they were after the whole first half they were they had them Blake sorry continue it's not how you start the game it's how you finish it I can't believe I predicted the game perfectly and and they just completely crapped their pants I I I that that is that is the most frustrating incorrect pick I had this whole week so so you said that they were going to blow him out and I got to be honest the no no I didn't said that they were gonna blow him out I said that they were gonna cover and they could win you said 14 10 to 14 plus that's not what I said what uhuh Arkansas over o Oklahoma State I said they were gonna cover and that they could beat them I didn't say that they were gonna blow him out okay um Joe how do you have 648 total yards 33 first downs 11 for 19 on third down and still lose I'll tell you how because it's basically like you had three turnovers you had three massive turnovers and then two missed field goals that's how you lose football games and I gotta be real with you I thought ton green showed flashes Joe of s like I know you're a draft guy dude he showed serious he's bro you know who he is I'm gonna say it I'm gonna say it he's got Lamar traits he really does have Lamar Jackson traits uh he's cam without running you over okay they're same size pause Joe when you let teams stay in games like Arkansas let Oklahoma State stay in you're GNA lose here's the thing too I felt like that once they got up Sam Pitman told Bobby patrino to go conservative and it bit him in the ass well okay I actually put I actually completely don't even like the wording of um letting Oklahoma State stick around in it they literally open the door and let them walk back in unscathed as easily as they could have when they had their foot on their throat to close out the game here's my prediction that game really solidified the the conspiracy theory that a lot of people had during the offseason pitman's gonna get fired in a couple of weeks Bobby patrino is going to be the interim coach Arkansas is going to finish the year strong Bobby patrino will be the next head coach of Arkansas football and look it comes down to what you just said 600 yards of total offense the offense was not the issue they played unbelievably well the yards and the plays that they were able to create and generate was at an elite level they were embarrassing Oklahoma State jaquin and Jackson ran all over them green made so many big plays but what killed them was a lack of discipline with penalties and turnovers and just dumb silly mistakes that's the head coach that comes down to the head coach and preparation and focus and again discipline discipline discipline discipline one of the most important things in football I I think that patri uh pitman's done I I that is a I'm not going to say that after one loss I'm not going to do that because we but it's been it's for two years now come on but they have UAB then they have Auburn lose Auburn it's over well that's fair if they lose to Auburn it's it's over but are Auburn just lost to Cal you think that that Hugh isn't pissed off and trying to I I I I think Hugh's got to bench Payton Thorn is what I think but that's neither here nor there uh Joe they gotta clean [ __ ] up and they got to clean up the turnovers I think that they look good really good on offense I think they look here's the crazy thing I actually think that they looked good their linebacking core looked pretty good even though they were supposed to be bad like they were getting after Oli Gordon they bottleneck Ali Gordon but the problem was is you know what it came down to the team that had been together the longest knew how knew what adversity was and knew how to overcome it and I don't here's the thing that I don't want to do I don't want to completely take things away from Oklahoma State either because Joe they could have folded they got handed that win they got handed that okay that's fair but you know what they also did they also had four straight stops against Arkansas's offense to go in and then take the lead that's what I know so there comes a point where I get what you're saying but how are you going to defend four straight stops and then them coming back to tie it like there's got to be you get what I'm trying to say here like I actually I'm going to I'm going to complete this screen I'm not going to give Oklahoma State they went 0 for four on third their last four possessions they had to give the ball back then they make a stop and they muff a punt that's not on them I get that they did not they 0% deserve to win that game z% Des put the game away and you know that yeah Oklahoma State could not have handed them that win any more than they did or Arkansas could not have handed them that win any more than they did there's something to be said about four stops at the end that Arkansas couldn't Prevail from and here's the thing too that overtime sack that ton green took was the back breaker yeah the back breaker so I don't know man I I I hate it for Arkansas because they by the way Arkansas fans told you about Tesla maybe you should just shut up and listen sometimes but Joe offensively I I I've been I've been the the champion of Bobby patrino taking over like I've been the champion of that just another step step in that another step in that in that fold so look they got UAB who lost to ULM last night General booty spanking that ass and then at Auburn so you got two games before you got A&M Tennessee and LSU here's the thing with Arkansas Joe at the end of September and early October is that one of the more brutal stretches A&M Tennessee LSU that's where I think Sam pitman's going to Define if he's going to be the ne is gonna be Remain the head coach yeah of Arkansas so we'll see all right an hour and 20 minute show we had a lot we had to get to there was a lot to talk about you know we we should have come been able to come in here and not have to spend 30 minutes on Notre Dame but we only spent 15 we spent the start of the show and then we did a whole segment lot about Notre name today all right we'll see y'all again tomorrow we missed some super chats I was told Elks says Joe it's up to them to give a [ __ ] and go play talking about that was that yeah no that was about that was about Notre Dame when I was yeah when we were yelling about the players I mean I would disagree with that but I still still on Marcus Freeman still they still got they still got to go out there and play man dude you here's the thing I'm gonna leave it with this Howard cross in that Ander defensive line got pushed around on critic yeah they did they did and it's Marcus Freeman's fault you know what Notre Dame is can I tell you what Notre Dame is here's my last thing you know what Notre Dame is they are the New York Bagel of college football teams overrated all right now you're just being Hur tomorrow yall have a good one peace