Alex Bregman Calls Elbow Injury 'Fluid Situation'

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] FM hc2 Houston Insider access exclusive content sports radio 61 the Texans play here an odyssey sports station check out the betql network we entertainment for every fan get sports betting tips from the best in the game available on the Odyssey hat and our sister station 650 the BET Sports Radio 610 presents Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast we coming to eight time let get the work in man let's go great day great day oh give me some juice l oh yeah cartini lost one into right field playable Tyler O'Neal is there and he puts it away in the Boston Red Sox have won the middle game of the series defeating the Astros for the first time this year that snaps a seven game winning streak for Houston against the Red Sox heading back to last season Astros with a l tonight have still won 11 of their last 13 games tough one tonight hey what's happening everybody happy Wednesday to all of you welcome in Ben Cee that up again this clapping yeah it almost sounds like it's somebody who's in the booth with callus clapping it's definitely it's an obnoxious Bostonian who's right below the right below them yeah but I'm like who at first I'm like who is this Judas with headsets on that's clapping next to callus over there Play One More Time B not thei lost one into right field playable O'Neal is there and he puts it away in the Boston Red so right there sounds like sounds like it's Blum doing Blum like Plum why you clapping we lost you know what they need this they need this little shot in the arm to you know just remind them man it's hard you've been winning a lot of games lately but still I'll tell you what about that as we welcome you in on a Wednesday Sean Pendergast and Seth Payne with you man we got a lot to get to on the show um the uh we'll find something that's what you're supposed to say um I do find that I'm getting a little bit complacent I did not even check to see until I had to do the sports report that I do for the FMS I hadn't even checked to see how the Mariners did last night until they had a late late game and the Dodgers they were winning when I went to bed they were up three to one or three to nothing on the Dodgers and I'm like well they'll find a way to blow this the Mariners and sure enough they did the Dodgers beat them six to3 but the fact that I was only checking it once I had to check it so I had all my information I had to kind of check my myself and say man I got to at least keep my eye on the rearview you know yesterday I said that I'm not wored I'm not to worry before I wreck myself um I'm not worried about the Mariners I'm worried about the Yankees catching the Yankees not worried about the Mariners catching us but maybe I need to good job Dodgers maybe I need to uh yeah help us out thanks buddy yeah the three days a year we like the Dodgers when they're playing the didn't start until 9:00 our time or so so no way in hell can't stay up for that I got enough AL West games I got to stay up I like Astros AL West how you feeling man how you doing I feel good I feel good I know I'm not too distraught over last night other than my lingering concerns over Blanco the Justin Verlander return versus some guy I don't know tonight is something today it's one o00 today excuse me this afternoon is something that uh is should hopefully try to keep you know Blanco's been wobbling on and off the tracks uh over the last several weeks and he just needs a rest he's he's pitched more Innings than he's ever pitched before then Verlander coming back in I the now the other part that goes with that is as I I hope that means good things for Blanco you've also got Verlander coming back who pitched 57 in pitches in his Rehab start but part of that might have been because there was a there was an offensive surge by Sugarland so there was a long time between the second third Innings so who who knows who knows um but he only pitched five innings in his two starts before he went on I too so ver you're you're going to be even one less reliever on the squad to accommodate six starting pitchers Yep they're they're going to be tested they're going to be tested in a lot of ways and it's a very look it's the pitching staff has been great but it's a test yeah Blanco Blanco getting knocked out early last night was was not optimal because Verlander we don't know what kind of pitch count Verlander's on a pitch count as spot was being kind of dodgy about it when he was asked about he's like well just kind of see how it goes and but I I I have to believe once he starts getting up around 70 or 75 pitches it's it's yoink for him which means he better be super efficient on those 75 pitches and he hasn't been efficient this year well and they're in the middle there's no off days coming up anytime soon like they're they're they're playing for the next two weeks straight ver good opponents versus good opponents too yeah I mean they could be playing against the A's and and and all the crappy teams and it would still be a problem just because you know you got to play nine innings and all these things dare I be a Meek enough soul to just say you know what you got to let's let's have some good showings versus these teams but I don't I don't need it to be an impressive Onslaught or anything that like the this is what good baseball teams do you play 500 baseball with surges like they just had uh and get some really good pitching and then there we go yeah yeah we'll keep the pitching going for sure and then Tucker looks like he's doing more stuff before games yeah it's all these updates like hey he's working on running normally there he is cro hopping in the Outfield like he's do weird stuff I don't know um you're intrigued by The Crow Hop why that's uh I don't know cuz it's that's the first I've ever heard a it's the first I've ever heard it called a croop you have that's a okay and B and B yeah I just never heard it called a Crow Hop before B why am I getting updates on it why why like why is that such a big deal that he's Crow hopping I guess um I don't I'm surprised you've never heard the term croop but I guess yeah it's it's it's that he's working on all these basic things like it's almost like teaching somebody uh who's had a stroke how to learn to do the basic things again and it's not it can be a long process in coming back from a stroke they've made incredible advancements in stroke recovery and yet it's long and that's what it feels like with it feels like he had a stroke on his chin well it's funny I brought up God I forget somebody texted me yesterday EA with a fork now yeah I forget who texted me yesterday and I apologize because it might might even be a cooworker I can't I I can't remember but I brought will Anderson's ankle yeah and you and I have talked about how this ankle with Will Anderson is concerning because until we know otherwise this could be an ankle injury that's just a lingering thing from the ankle injury he suffered last year and we invoked the name of Steph Curry and and again somebody texted me yesterday that heard me talking about it either on this show or on the podcast and on the Utopia podcast and they said they had to basically teach Steph Curry how to walk again yeah with that ankle injury so maybe that's what they're doing with Kyle Tucker they're doing all the basics you got to start from Square One how talk how to hold a fork yeah yeah everything um yeah that the well you know what I told you was you're worry with something like this where with a deep bone bruise and when they're swelling potentially you know I don't know exactly how everything went but it shuts everything down so it might be a relatively minor injury and you're going to recover from it at some point but you don't know how or when but in the meantime because you can't use your calf because you can't walk normally or anything all the muscles everything it just kind of shuts down and you get atrophy so yeah there's a little bit of that basic just coming back maybe he'll learn how to walk better maybe he'll learn how to Crow Hop better and run normally better stronger than ever yes I had forgotten you sent me the channel R article this morning I with all these issues in the Outfield the Astros outfield's not good right now they're doing good things like Jake Myers had a nice catch last night Jake Myers has like one catch every three games you're like all right well that's why his 220 bat is in the lineup every day you know he he had that the the the catch last night where he robbed somebody I forget who of extra bases but the outfield's not good right now like Trey cabbage got promoted that's how bad the Outfield is right now got promoted because Pedro Leon SP said Pedro he wanted to see Pedro Leon get some work in triaa he's had he's had years in Triple A he's said and we saw exactly why he's been stuck in triaa yes he's a he's a he's an affront to baseball fundamental he does not have any respect for any kind of rule book I forgot that Abu on the Red Sox was part of that Vasquez Trier Abu this is the big uh yeah this is my they should never let Abu go wer Abu was traded part of their package to get Vasquez right and uh I it made me think of okay all of the scrutiny over the Kikuchi trade and we admitted at the time even though we were skeptical of the Kikuchi trade part of it was that we'd seen these guys plus they were young prospects where you'd seen upside but not enough opportunity to see the downside so you thought oh okay well these guys are phenoms and what the hell you're letting go these phenoms you go to get back to the Vasquez trade and it's not like anybody was crying a million tears over the loss of wer a Brau and yet he's turned into a good player I it was it though I mean they they I don't know if they win that World Series without Vasquez you know it's a obviously he wasn't a superstar of it or anything but you you needed Vasquez on that Squad My Philosophy with that is I Vasquez could have gone 0 for 35 he won the World Series so whatever whatever sets of events you put in Motion in the universe ended up resulting in a World Series so you do everything the same you get no there a lot of stuff without huge production or anything a lot of stuff could have gone wrong with if he had Maldonado out there for more or just whomever else in there Vasquez caught the no hitter people forget that man he was the one behind the plate when Javi and and Company jav and friends threw the no hit he was on our list of underappreciated Astros who might be lost to history like it it'll be a question a trivia question 20 years from now on the TV broadcast you know and only Die Hard Astros remember Vasquez yeah I miss Vasquez I despised him when he was with the Astros because there with the Red Sox because remember they they went through that stretch where they had just so many like dudes that looked alike with beards and everything Bas just they all I had I they had like a Vibe like a gritty Vibe about him that you would love if they were your team if I remember he was good in the ALCS against them too whatever whatever round they played them in the playoffs that year I forget which but so anyways the Astros lose last night six to five and but the Mariners lose as well so all is well in the world they're still up by uh still up by five games Verlander today it's a big Verlander start today man V it's a big Verlander start if because if Verlander looks Verlander looks shaky and we're living in the moment right now right I mean we've got like a month and a half left to the season if Verlander is shaky now you've got Blanco who I don't trust anymore arti who's been who's done good things lately but just inherently with him being a rookie approaching inning Innings he about to pass his like I he he he he may not be in the circle of trust at all this season just based on his profile oh yeah we haven't done the circle of trust what once this season that's how weird a year it's been uh ATI I guess I'm I'm higher on the trust level than you right now I feel good about arti I feel like in the moment I feel good about him but if he's your fourth best starter like going into the postseason and that's why I say verland if Verlander comes back and he's Verlander you know for a few starts and you're like okay well for the time being you know until Verlander pulls a another neck muscle you've got framber you've got Hunter Brown you got Verlander and to me it's in that order right now like Verlander doesn't get anointed and just put back at the top of the rotation framber is your guy right now and so is Hunter Brown they're not maybe the best duo of like the best duo right now in the American League like there's probably an argument that since June 1st or May 15th or whatever arbitrary date you want to slap down post Hunter Browns early season meltdown that they're two of the best five pitchers in the American League right now biggest thing about arag Getti as we enter this stretch where you're going to have one less reliever on the roster because you've got a six-man rotation which is great but arti rarely goes more than six Innings yeah you know and like his last outing wasn't a great one but he's he's had quality starts he goes six Innings pretty regularly but he's not an Innings eater by any stretch of imagination and then Kikuchi same thing Kikuchi can't get to six Innings that's the that's the ceiling that eludes him if he can reach that magical six Innings then we'll really have something with Kikuchi he pitches into the seventh inning and a start it's on there's another thing about the Red Sox right now that makes me a little bit nervous about kuchi okay hold that okay all right we'll do that coming up next we've also got some Texans that we've got to get to coming up up next we got some praise for the Texans from somebody that I loved hearing it but we've got to put it through a filter so we'll do that but first I want to tell you takar us as long as we're talking about the Astros they're an official sponsor of the Houston Astros you see Jeremy pay [Music] [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] who we are Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast Seth showing me croop videos I know what it is now I just didn't know that's what it was called yeah yeah you you had poor instruction in Little League I think probably that's a definite possibility for sure there you go this is this Sean these you just you're just taking that hop to load up and got you ever watch a crow you ever just sit around watching crows they do kind of little sideways hop they're interesting creatures the crows yeah very intelligent very intelligent yes okay better uh they're better at the Crow Hop than Kyle Tucker is right now for sure I'm better at the croop than Kyle I don't watch any videos of crow hops learning to Crow Hop again yeah the way Kyle Tucker is what was your Red Sox thing oh real quick just that the so the Red Sox were on a terar pitching before the All-Star break first half of the season they were awesome uh and end since then they've been atrocious one of the things they did and this is where it's tied into Kikuchi was they just stopped throwing as many fast balls their analytics Bros same way the Astros have analytics Bros realize okay the fast balls people are sitting and waiting on Fast balls they know exactly uh they're anticipating it so they stopped throwing fast balls and they were awesome and then the league caught up and people realized like oh okay this is the deal um so I I wonder with Kikuchi where you know he came in stopped throwing his fast ball as much especially during the Rays that oh okay maybe this will be a different version right I just if there's any kind of catching up I hope that they're more ready for it than the Red Sox yeah I hope so too I like history tells us with pictures pre Kikuchi that the Astros probably do a pretty good job they're not just a one one strategy and then like the the league adjusts like well we're out of ideas sorry we had something there yeah we the idea Factory one idea that's it um so 1:10 p.m. today first pitch Justin Verlander this will be one of the more interesting regular season games today to see what Verlander looks like so um we'll have eyes on that for sure uh Diana Rini was on The Dan Patrick Show yesterday and they they Dan Patrick and the crew asked her about training camps she's been to she and Kay Adams are the two and Diana Rini that have been traveling around to all the camps and doing these interviews and podcasts and she's been traveling around with Chase Daniel M former quarterback like they're doing stuff where they're driving in the car together and like it's it's pretty fun like iel real bright I love backup quarterbacks like good for their analysis because they usually they've been through so many systems usually they've had to make it with gu if they make it a long time League like they have to know the offense you know because they don't have the physical skills of the starters it would be like if they stuck like orlovski with K Adams as a team and now you've got you know now you've got the reporter who's got kind of that soft touch that every all of a sudden you're getting the best information out of these guys and then you got Chase Daniel doing the football stuff anyways Rini has been around to all these different camps she works for the athletic now she's got a podcast for the athletic the scoop and she was on Dan Patrick yesterday and they asked her about what are some of the camps that have surprised you by how bad the team has been and she rattled off a few of them but then said man I was hoping you would ask me what's the team that surprised me how awesome they are the question I I would have preferred was what's the camp I went to where I went oh wow and that was the Houston Texans holy cow I know I knew they were good when I showed up I left like and look I went on a day that everyone told me CJ was unbelievable um but I just was watching going who is going so you're all in they're a Super Bowl Contender all in on the Houston Texans just based on what they're building it's uh and it really is you know Sean you and I were talking about this a couple weeks ago we almost when you're out there at practice every day you you sometimes you step back and you and you realize like holy what am I watching here because there's so much receiving Talent down the field but there but they're having battles with the cornerbacks the starting cornerbacks that there's just there it's a skilled positions on offense and defense you've got a boatload of talent and it's really especially in training camp where the Run game it's impossible to judge whether team's running well or not during training camp I for got my reservations about that but um the the actual skill position players it's kind of freaky to see all those receivers out on the field at the same time yeah you don't get that even on high-powered offenses it's rare that you have three elite elite caliber skill sets at your wide receiver group it's insane because this team has rarely had two really good receivers at the same time let alone three like when Andre Johnson was here this is no disrespect to Kevin Walter but Kevin Walter wasn't any of these guys we're watching now Kevin Walter was a really solid kuak style wide receiver yeah right yeah and was everything that yeah would block real well which they care a lot more about Than People realize but it wasn't right he wasn't an electric wide receiv nobody's game planning for him you know what I mean and and and even when when when Hopkins was here probably the best they had was Will Fuller who couldn't stay on the field I mean you had Andre and DeAndre together yeah but yeah but even like that like it was the first year was deandre's rookie year where he was like a 700 yard guy and then the second year was when Hopkins went up and Andre went down to 900 yards like they weren't like like they weren't at the peak of their power yeah these guys are all like either entering their prime or in their Prime right now so that's exciting Rini said that there were little things she saw in at practice that made her realize what the culture is like here okay something even simple and small this is tiny but this is important and it's been told to me by many people it's important in the big grand scheme of things when they make good plays during the preseason when guys are scoring touchdowns backups players that we may never even that see again in in the NFL the way the sideline the way the starters are running down into the end zone and showing that support cuz what that is that's culture right that's too Ryan that's him saying we are going to be there for everybody on this team not just the superstars well and it does it it sounds kind of silly CU like oh what are we grading celebrating and stuff I would say that you know having been on various teams with various head coaches there's times where the the head coach is a hard ass but tries to coach enthusiasm you guys need to support each other more and cheer louder you need to be more supportive of each other and get excited for but meanwhile you're walking on eggshells all the time cuz you're terrified of getting yelled at or cut and all that so it's it's something that really flows down from the personality of the head coach so that's real yeah I think part of that's an offshoot of just Demo's you know Deo encourages all of it of course but it only H it's got to happen naturally and I do think that there's a certain like there's a certain Joy about the way these guys go about practice that that it's cool to watch cuz it looks like all right they enjoy practicing like they're out there they're having fun but they like and working their butts off but that's the approach you if you go through life with that approach you end up being one of these people or one of those teams that always like never looks like they have a real job because they're just having fun doing what they're doing it was really funny um Kamari Lasser in his media session couple days ago yeah on Monday said something I should go find the cut but it just popped into my head just now something to the effect of like things he can improve on he's like I I probably need to be more enthusiastic at practice this after good plays you know what I get him Deo T had to come to Jesus meeting of called him in bring your playbook and he opens up the Playbook and he writes down have more fun yeah yeah Hile on um no I think that's uh it's it's one of those things too it's where again like that's like if Diana Rini were to say that and meanwhile the you know the and start off 0 and four feel like what the hell are we even talking about the happiest practices ever yeah I but I do think that one of the things is in life and in football so think about in football in an NFL career 10 years 11 12 years you've had a long career and by the time you get to your 9th 10th 11th year you start to realize you do kind of the same thing that you do when you're in your 40s and 50s and a normal job you start just genuinely feeling like oh man I really got to just I got to help the young people out I got to pour out like my asset needs to also be really focusing on everybody else and it just it's a natural thing that happens as you get older and I think like the the faster that you can accelerate that process you are able to end up with just a Flatout better team that you know ideally you want 53 coaches on the field too you know if a guy's if your if your teammate is having an issue on the field and one of the players can help correct him or get his mind right or do whatever that's a hell of a lot more effective than waiting until the sideline or halftime before a coach fixes it a good point and but it's got to be something that happens every day as opposed to just somebody that all of a sudden starts either either helping or you know constructively criticizing some yeah it's it's a culture thing it is a culture for sure for sure and Rini did say this is a small thing like she's she wasn't overstating it I think but it is it's it's uh it's very evident when you're out there for sure um last one here this was interesting too because every you know Stefan did big Topic at this Camp man Texan fans feeling good about Diggs Buffalo fans and viking fans trying to look for every little shred of possible descent with Stefan Diggs here was Diana Rini and what Stefan Diggs is learning about himself Stefan Diggs told me this has just been refreshing for him he's growing up he reflects on some of his younger years and just knows he made some mistakes and is ready now to to to really try to be the best at his position and based on what I was watching out there he he's just been such an added bonus to this offense yeah the um this is where I'm always torn with this because I think the reports of Stefon Diggs in Buffalo for the first two years sounded exactly like they are now the has been the best thing ever for Josh Allen their best buds all of that Bill's fans probably trolling viking fans the way I like trolling bills fansir of life right and so I guess a lot of it is like I don't care I didn't expect like I don't it's he's on a one year contract I think that yes he like we just talked about he'll mature over time the way many many people do I don't think it's going to be a factor but I also do think maybe what what probably is a surprise to Stefon Diggs is being plunged into this environment where you've got a quarterback who's a very heady quarterback like he's a very like High football IQ quarterback and then you've got other receivers to balance things out he might just he might himself have been surprised by how much fun it is being in that environment when everything's just clicking right it's probably you talk to people from the military and they'll talk about how man you go from like one one company to another and there's just different cultures and sometimes you end up in one company and you're just it's it's a bad culture you know and it's just it's not fun and then you go to another company or unit and it's a whole different deal and it's not about as much as like you individually it's like oh things are working well like oh stuff just functions the way it's supposed to function here that's probably a lot of fun it's probably a lot of fun yeah he might rather have a thousand yards receiving being with other great players and obviously winning helps um than go get, 1400 yards being the guy it's fun to be on a good team yeah it's fun being on a good team start feeling a lot better about yourself team yeah now here's where I don't want to be a hypocrite here because I'm really excited about everything now yeah all right I want to stop being a hypocrite um Diana Rini was very excited about the Texans which got me very excited that she had these observations it is only 24 hours ago that I was reading this tweet from Diana Rini with some disdain oh Bo Nicks is a stud he operates in this Shawn Payton offense like a veteran it'd be a surprise if he's not the starter week one Zack Wilson is also having a great camp with Denver strong arm throws on time asking good questions one coach told me he's rejuvenated rejuvenated he is yeah we've seen it before the whole thing with B Knick is the it's hard because I like I'm not trying to be a hater or anything I just do wonder what some of the hubub is about with him because he's done a good job doing what they ask him to do which is not a whole lot he can create he's he's really he can threaten with his legs he makes some circus throws of the shorter variety but I just I haven't seen anything in preseason that makes me think like oh wow this is something different or special Caleb Williams Caleb Williams has some issues with the consistency and his footwork and all this stuff that makes me question but I feel like he's he's done more of the genuinely electrifying stuff I feel like B knck has gone out and he's improvised a little bit but sometimes it's the bad improvise improvisation um and and he's been efficient against vanilla defenses but I I'm not I can't sit there and think oh yeah this guy's ready for action yeah it's of those two I think that bonix has much more capacity for a five interception game oh yeah yeah yeah it's I I'm I'm with you on that I'm with you on that um text message three guys on the Giants ran down and cheered that big man for running down JJ Taylor only three if that would have been our guy that's true can you imagine like if if Khalil Davis ran down you know Khal who pick a running back on some team if Khalil Davis ran down JJ Taylor on that play like the whole defense would have been mobbing him it was he was the same number as khil Davis wasn't he I kind of in the moment I kind of had one of those weird when you forget about the teams and everything I thought it was khil Davis oh really yeah because that's the kind of thing that khil Davis did he's that kind of guy you know I don't know if he's as fast as that but he's got that hustle player he's a blue collar hustle player so I could see him doing that yeah good for that dude not so good for JJ tayor now JJ Taylor had stepped out of bounds and I wonder if he but he didn't know he'd stepped out he might subconsciously known no he did not know he was at top JJ Taylor speed yeah it's an awesome feeling man I I took down Tiki Barber once on the sideline yeah I had angle him yeah yeah yeah we were getting beat by like 21 points I want to mob you right now it was uh no but it was one of those things it was weird I still don't know how I did it it was CU I had gotten the right angle on him so but it ended up being like 25 yards downfield were you jag or Texan at the time oh a Texan you were I think so you and your you were well I just curious if you were an older player or a younger player you know what I mean yeah I was like probably in my you back in your younger years where you ran a 44 I'll look up the box score later but uh enough about me Sean stop trying to make this about me so uh the but oh oh oh I went back yesterday because uh you had brought up how everybody mobbed Lonnie Johnson after he recovered that fumble and and I didn't want to try to th I wasn't like I was trying to throw shade or anything but I said well I feel like they mob everybody yeah they do um with Lonnie it was notable but partly because he was right on the sideline yeah he was actually off the like they were mobbing him on the sidelines so it's a lot easier no no no energy involved so that was more impressive in terms of sheer numbers they were right but yeah my point was I wasn't trying to say like no they don't actually like Johnson no I just meant that it I feel like that's what they do all the time there's multiple people there yeah that makes sense uh all right uh payt and Pendergast with you on a on a Wednesday good to be with you we'll get into headlines coming up next here Astros lose last night but a big day today out at the park Texans made a signing yesterday this is interesting is actually an interesting one I want to get into it headlines as well is a critical one yeah exactly it's a position that's kind of under the radar but I think this guy could really help the Run game is a it's an issue a big issue yeah so we'll talk about that in headlines coming up next but first West Point Lincoln if you are in the market for that new vehicle if you've been thinking about it and you're thinking about it [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] he [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] n [Music] [Music] [Music] play on Broadway in perland together let's drive pain and Pendergast with today's headlines cartini lost one into right field playable Tyler O'Neal is there and he puts it away in the Boston Red Sox have won the middle game of the series defeating the Astros for the first time this year that snaps a seven game winning streak for Houston against the Red Sox dating back to last season Astros with a loss tonight have still won 11 of their last 13 games tough one tonight I like to think that that fan Che I'm assuming that's a Red Sox fan cheering in the background that when Callas got done doing that tag at the end about final score blah blah blah they just picked up his cup and threw it at them yeah oops yeah sorry sorry sorry I had to pee in that cup because of the long Innings I what plans are you making for October since you're team's not going to be playing every Red Sox game lasts three hours so yeah sorry I had to pee in a cup these games have been lasting a little long well when you walk eight dudes uh was there eight walks the Astros gave up last night there was a it was a felt like it yeah yeah um Jake Meyers with a brilliant play in the Outfield that was good to see yeah to rescue Brian King there that was good to see and Y hitting another home run like there there were a few good things but they as callus points out they lose six to five to the Red Sox last night fortunately the Mariners are awful at baseball right now yeah when the As lose so do the Mariners so it's all good they're just rescuing themselves from a a five game sweep in the playoffs at this point at least they'll just they'll they'll get a they get swept out in three games maybe hopefully the Astros won't be involved in that round whatsoever and then there you go that's what I'm looking at man that's what I'm hoping for are they are they in the Wild Card uh earners yeah no they're out of it right completely out of yeah they're completely and so are the Red Sox right now um so the Astros win last night six to five I guess probably the big story from this one Astros wise would be that ryel Blanco continues to show signs of deterioration here he was he was bad from the jump last night he gave up three runs in the first fortunately the Astros kind of bailed him out scored three runs of their own Singleton got a home run that was cool to see um but Joe ASP said just you know not renel Blanco's night last night that's a line know that won't changee much it's it's tough to navigate a couple of times through I thought he after that first inning he settled and start making pitches um but they just make you work they make you work um you know you adding like an O'Neal and and cast through that lineup adds an extra volume of pitches that you have couple extra hitters that H didn't see team and in in Boston but it it's just a tough lineup it's a tough lineup but I thought you know he battled he uh kept us in the game and and I Rin did a tremendous job really good job just keeping us in the game and um we just couldn't get a big hit there at the end yeah and it was uh it was kind of the you know the Misfits from the bullpen that kind of kept him in it it was King it was Caleb Ferguson yeah ort gave up the Home Run unfortunately in the eighth inning that ended up being the final margin of Victory um duban came in and and Dance with the Devil a little bit in the ninth inning you know he put a bunch of guys on base um but um hey man 11 and two in the last 13 games not much to complain it was one I yeah I I wonder if um it's not like you're overly distraught after one game versus a good baseball team it's the it's the blanco scenario that's the most depressing thing about that loss I mean look he gives up three runs in the first inning Astros come right back and tie it right back up very very quickly and feels like oh yeah they still they still got their still on this rooll they're going to fight through anything but Blanco just it continues to wobble on and off the tracks as as we get later and later into the season Verlander comes back today just a few short hours from now they'll go to a six-man rotation hopefully that's the Elixir that just allows Blanco to recover a little bit much more and he just figures out a way to to recapture something here over the next six weeks I'm not counting on Blanco to be honest with like in September and October it's just you know like he's starting to pitch to what his profile is now you know like a 30-year-old you know I don't say journeyman because he's only ever been with the Astros organization but he's I you know we'll look back ultimately I think with Blanco and go okay maybe those first few months where he was an All-Star candidate is just gravy with Blanco without look without Blanco's first three months of the Season that he had this team is probably in a do fight right now with the Mariners instead of up by five games he was the only good thing about this team for about a month and a half as as all these other pitchers were pitching it like three times their career erra it was astounding how bad they were it was really really bad yeah without Blanco they would have been uh up a creek yep Verlander back today uh 110 first pitch here is here's Joe asata on Justin Verlander yeah I think it will help him and I think it will help the you know the entire staff they all can use extra day so having JV back that's that's also um very important just to have him back because he can we could stretch it out a little bit and give those guys an extra an extra day all right so that's Verlander did we say the Astros won someone texted in wait you just said the Astros won no they didn't win they lost if we said they won that was a mistake they lost I probably said it somehow I don't know how I would have said it but you know you know me Jer hit another home run so it felt like a win how's that okay cuz Jer has all of a sudden become one of the best Sluggers at the catcher position in all of baseball the the thing to remember with Blanco though too I I think that when you say I don't know if we can depend on him or not like since June 1st he's still or July 1st he's still a a 3.78 ER guy really doesn't feel like that I know I know I know he's had some bad because I guess the the abysmal outings that came in that one stretch what heed up four runs two two games in a row um but that's I mean that's a that's a better than average Major League pitcher it's not like he's a zero or a nothing it's that you just I I don't know if we can expect him to get back to where he was before the All-Star break which was the lights out All-Star caliber if you're asking me what the best case scenario is in my mind for Blanco when October rolls around is that I don't think he's part of the rotation this is assuming Verlander this is assuming health for everybody okay so I know that's a big leap given the injuries this staff has suffered this year but I think to me if I'm envisioning a best case scenario for Blanco it's one of your regular starters has an uncharacteristically bad outing it happens every year in the postseason and he comes in in like the second or third inning and he gives you three or four quality Innings and you eek out a game you end up winning a game seven to six because Blanco came in and gave you three lights out innings in the middle of a game right I just don't think he's going to be one of your top four guys when the when the playoffs roll around it's just not trending in that direction plus I mean the the other thing too is just the recent starts of just going four and a third inning five innings he's not eating any innings a big thing um the Texans made a signing yesterday definitely was looking forward to talking about this with you Seth because it's a it's under the radar because of the position but I do think it's indicative of kind of maybe what Nick cerio and demo Ryan are feeling is a kind of a semi- triage situation right now with the running game they brought in a fullback yesterday Nick Boden who has not played a ton of NFL football he's only played in I think like 27 to 30 Games somewhere there he's been around the league for six years I don't think he's I don't think he's somebody that they're looking to as the answer but I think with Andrew Beck who's only played one preseason game so far this year he's looked very impressive on the sidelines uh sleeveless he looks boy he looks like that's the fullback I want for this team for sure but it's mostly walking around and doing drills and stuff so um the look The Run game is an issue right now and it's not just Damien Pierce it's not just something that Joe Mixon can fix we went back and going back and just watching the four plays that the starters had there's a lot of bad blocking out there there's a lot of misassignments Troy Harrison when he was the fullback and they were backed up just I don't know if he made physical contact with the with the defender that he was trying to block that coming out of the coming out of the endzone there um the other bad thing that happened on that play was Blake fiser whiffed on his guy completely and it was it was a play that lar me tonsil would have made there were he got he was threatened by two guys and he kind of just got a deer he was a deer caught in the headlights um in that moment like it he didn't have to he didn't have to be a road mauling run blocker because larmy tunel is not that but laramy tunel would have made the right block there so that's in certain instances like that it's going to make a difference Damen Pierce is he's he's an issue he's an issue but like even if we take Damen Pierce out of the equation the starting offensive line in that game did not run block well at all it was way worse than I thought after watching on the T on the TV copy just too many mistakes Boton this is one of the probably one of the rare teams around the NFL that Boton could get signed to in late August and feel like I got a decent shot at making this team you know like these are the fullbacks they have right now either banged up not good or both it's can you go out there and just put your uh can you get your hands on the jersey number of the guy opposite here's your part of the Playbook yeah and part of it too is I mean they're and they're doing this thing this this is stuff that feels like the Bill O'Brien era where man they want to be big F they want to go out there and play with two tight ends they want to go out and have a fullback they want to be rough and physical but I they don't show any ability to actually move people and that's that's the concerning thing and then Sean on the other play that they had when they were backed up uh In The End Zone down there they weren't in the end zone but they were they tried to run the ball I mean you got you end up with like four four linemen on in a tight end on two Defenders and two other guys running free it was just a hodge podge mess it been happening for four years guys aren't getting off on backers somebody yesterday Cory Barrett who has a good follow on Twitter and he does does a lot with the he and I disagreed of um he wanted me to give credit to juice Scruggs and Kenyon green for minimizing Dexter Lawrence in the Run game I'm like well no because they they H Dexter Lawrence is a nose tackle and those guys were not getting off on linebackers they were stuck on Dexter Lawrence so production for a nose tackle is linebackers running free occupying guys yeah yeah yeah like it's not always a Dexter Lawrence knocking out your quarterback or something and I don't they didn't do a good job with that I still I'm optimistic we're in headlines aren't we I'm talking too much sorry I'm optimistic about the young guy the young offensive lineman still it's just that they're not there yet they just need to get there our 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tomorrow so that'll be fun the only joint practice of this preseason so looks like it's going to come off they this time last year they were busy cancelling joint practices with the Saints because of all the injuries they're so banged up yeah and they they've got I mean they've got a handful of guys that are dealing with bumps and bruises I probably the I guess the most concerning one is Christian Harris because it seems like everybody else that's on the list of guys every day that that are not practicing or at least working out on the field next to the practice Yeah whereas Christian Harris has rarely been out there at all he's rarely been out there I guess Will Anderson is the other concern just because now it's it's another ankle injury and you wonder okay I I I really hope this doesn't be become some kind of chronic deal correct if he has just naturally floppy ankles yeah yep Shin angle and all that that good stuff yeah um so uh game is it noon on Saturday against the Rams uh a lot of guys vying for trying to survive here in the NFL right and the Rams don't traditionally play their starters much in the preseason the third preseason game especially I'm curious what they'll do the imagine the Texans are going to play theirs I I wish they would start I wish the offensive line would I Really they need to have some success you know Deo Deo had to venture into coach speak the other day when he talked about the running game and he was saying that he's uh he doesn't want to draw any judgments off of just two runs yeah talking about the first string guys yeah well the first string guys were actually in there for four runs and not a single one of them looked good Damen Pierce did didn't make their right decision quickly enough a couple times but the blocking was not good not just with the offensive line uh it was the whole committee I think there was at least one there was one play where it was either a wide receiver or Cade Stover that made the wrong decision and I think it was a wide receiver that left the defensive back unblocked um fullback whiffed completely and totally didn't touch a single soulle on one play uh linebackers were running free it was ugly it was really it was bad blocking and this is not a team that was running the ball well last year I I would like to see I feel like listen dude if you guys want to if you guys want to be lead pipe carrying mofos then get out there and do it do it versus the Rams backups at what point do we start to point to the coaching of the offensive line I'll do it right now I just like Bobby slowick hasn't yet proven that he can put together uh or Chris Strauss the offensive line coach but I would go with Bobby slowick as the offensive coordinator he was the passing game coordinator in San Francisco he hasn't yet demonstrated whether it's his fault or not he hasn't yet demonstrated that he can put together a good rushing attack so there's a lot of stuff I saw in that game that Jo Mixon wouldn't fix Joe Mixon would have looked better there were a couple plays where Joe Mixon I think like when they were backed up in the end zone I think Joe Mixon would have taken a better line than Damen Pierce did um there was another shotgun run that I think Mixon would have done a better job of but there there's just way too much bad blocking out there yeah for the starters like I don't I don't watch that game and think like oh yeah no reason to put him out there in harms way in a third preseason game I like they got to play the Colts the next game after this is the Colts and they got a yeah who according to ESPN's rankings that we're about to dive into right now Mike Clay is the writer for ESPN he does this every year he does the positional rankings one through 32 of every position group in the NFL quarterback running back receiver tight end o line on the offensive side and on the defensive side he does interior dline edge off ball linebackers corners and safeties yeah so you got 10 positions and then then he ranks the overall Rost so the Texans overall roster ranks 11th according to Mike Clay which sounds about right I feel like they're getting discussed like a team whose roster is more like fifth or sixth um but that's probably because of CJ strad you know the quarterback tends to skew the overall impressions of a team and maybe maybe raise the level of what people feel about a team beyond what the actual talent level or production level is but Indianapolis has the best interior defensive line according to these rankings to point so that that's yeah as of right now that's problematic juice Scruggs and Kenyan green have shown some good things this camp but it's an overall effort with all five guys add in the fullback add in everybody else yeah these rankings this is what I wanted to touch on first because they're fine at quarterback they're rated eighth at quarterback their receiver room is the best in the league they're going to be able to zip the ball all over the place their offensive line is rated 28th on this mhm their defensive line in interior is rated 29th on this yeah I'm not as worried about the defensive line interior I think part of it the same way Sheldon Rankin and Malik Collins even when you look at PFF last year and other things I feel like um people weren't accounting for the scheme and there's there's certain things that might look like a defensive tackle isn't doing a good job versus the run in this scheme where it's it's actually okay because they're going to get they're going to get washed out or hit out of their Gap sometimes because they're just jetting up field that's when it the linebackers to fill in behind them um and I think that fley fasi and Mario Edwards are going to be just fine in that regard with the offensive line part of it is okay people are you know Kenyan green hasn't played well historically but I do think he's a different guy right now juice Scruggs is a complete and total unknown right now and they're going to take their lumps early and unfortunately they face either unfortunately or fortunately depending on how it works out they're going to face Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner in that first game both studs like bigal dudes that know what the hell they're doing like they're if they didn't play for the Colts they'd be one of my favorite defensive line Duos but now I despise them sure yeah of course um yeah so I like as far as blaming Chris strausser or Bobby slowick I there's just some there's some things that they do that I don't I can't tell if it's the way the offensive line is being coached and this is their strategy but there's times where guys aren't all executed it doesn't look like they're all EX executing the same scheme so somebody's somebody's off the page like everybody's Zone outside Zone blocking except for one offensive lineman and and there's some things that might be explained with scheme there or it might be that guys are making mental errors so I I just don't know some of the young guys have really sloppy footwork and it really it comes back to bite them but they're young so I I can't put that on Chris strausser just yet can you get to a Super Bowl with the 28th best offensive line and 29th best interor def line I feel like that ranking is unfair partly because I think they're going to be just fine in pass protection like this is an ongoing 28th felt really this is yeah this is an ongoing theme with the Texans for whatever reason in good years and bad word the pass blocking has been way better than the Run blocking so I'm not I'm not overly concerned about the pass protection I thought the young guys had some really good shots of of pass protecting versus good defensive lineman in that game the other night um you know Blake fiser is still a working progress he got he had some really good reps he also got spun moved to Hell On One play by Brian Burns he did so um no I think that ranking is too low I think if you factor in both the run and the pass they're probably middle of the road right now yeah um CU I think there's other positions like they're 19th at running back I you can get to a Super Bowl having the 19th best running back room the last five Super Bowl winners have all had running back rooms that probably ranked it Isaiah Pacho has been winning you Super Bowls lately yeah and I think that's also it's probably it's a matter of depth more so than anything else it's I think Joe Mixon people aren't overly impressed by that acquisition by the Texans but he's much more solid independable um potential for perhaps being in a new scheme with a different quarterback might give him a little bit of a extra boost but it's who do you have behind him like realistically we got to take our blinders off a little bit here we as a fan base are getting excited about a guy who's coming off of his second Achilles tendon te in cam Acres cam ACR wasn't that good after his first ailles T and tear so I like he showed all of those bursts of athleticism that we've seen he showed them when he was in Minnesota last year but he still averaged 3.4 yards per carry yeah so I I'm I'm hopeful that it does turn out and man they can really capture something with him but it's all unproven people or Damen Pierce who hasn't been good since really before the last few games that he played in 2022 cuz he was getting jumed around he he was putting out some pretty pedestrian performances the last few games before he towards the end yeah in his rookie year yeah man there was a video online I'll get to it later but there was a video that surfaced of all of damen's good runs from his rookie year yeah I've been I've watched him a lot yeah you it was the Jaguars one I think that you sent me was it well this was a cut up of like 20 of them it made me sad um so anyways we we'll get to that later in this ranking on ESPN this positional group ranking the things that are not surprising Texans eighth a quarterback that's about right I think for CJ coming off his rookie year I know a lot of Texan fans would be like you should be fifth he should be fourth it's the whole room for one thing um wide receiver they're first no surprise there which sounds weird to say for a Texans team that they're first among wide receiver rooms and then the edge rushing room is fourth Will Anderson denil Hunter top five that that feels about right I guess the thing that would be concerning for the Texans and where if you if you're buying into these ranking being somewhat accurate Seth is that literally every other position group is outside the top 15 you know everything else is hovering around the middle of the road or in the bottom part of the L running back I mentioned 19th tight end 16th I mentioned the o line and D line 28th and 29th that's the most concerning thing although I'm with you I think I think they got short Change there um linebackers 21st man if Christian Harris doesn't get healthy 21st might be generous right now with that linebacker yeah I think there's a few of these that are I I like what just happens this time of year I think some of it's based maybe a little too heavily on last year's team that yeah Mike Clay is not at every training camp right right right right yeah and I I don't know like I'm I was surprised that the linebackers were ranked as low as they were part of that I think is that if you're looking at the team's base defense then okay it's a 4-3 you're looking at the Sam linebacker Henry toah TOA didn't play really well last year so there's no reason for anybody outside of Houston to think but I think Henry to TOA has made a lot a good camp but um I think Christian Harris is another guy that if you don't if you look at his season in totality last year is not that impressive people that didn't watch the Texans every week don't realize that no his he was Christian harros was a completely different player in the second half of the Season he doubled his production in a lot of regards uh like like actually doubled it in terms of tfls total tackles all of that he was a much different player in the second half of the season so I think they're ranked too low I yeah are you if Henry tooa has to play 50 snaps in the opener against the Colts how are you feeling about he won't um because they don't they're just not in that my my point about the 4-3 was that they don't play the four actual 43 all that much I guess let me clarify if Christian Harris Christian Harris is yeah then I'm nervous yeah yeah if uh it's it's much different and we'll see I like I'm optimistic that he's an improved player athletically he's just not nearly the same thing as Christian Harris right um so yeah that's that's a we'll see I thought quarterbacks being ranked 18th that's an interesting one because again I think they're they're looking at Kamari ler as an unproven commodity I'm pretty bullish on Kamari ler me too so I think that right now they should be the way I expect Kamari lter to play ranked higher than that but then there's also the conundrum of all right we saw some of those backup cornerbacks like Mike Ford who let up a huge uh huge reception downfield for Daniel Jones in that game um Mike Ford has had a rough training camp and mean he's out there playing in the second quarter after the starters go out so depth at cornerback is uh not as as deep as I would like it to be yeah I think I I think that if there's positions on this team where I feel like the the 53 they take into the season um the where guys are on other teams right now at these positions I feel like cornerback depth at corner back and depth on the offensive line are two of them for me yeah where I feel like ultimately the 53 that they settle on heading into the Colts game in week one that those guys are on somebody else's Squad right now I think tan the I I think where it's valid that there's been a lot of commotion about the Texans based on the Improvement last year and then the roster as it's currently constructed is that the positions that matter the most are any position that involves the quarterback on offense or defense so if you look at the wide receivers you look at the edge rushers you look at the quarterback himself and then you look at the starting cornerbacks those I feel really really good about and beyond that you got to you got to have a broad roster of blue Coller dudes that are good players and solid players so if you go position group by position group it can kind of give you a misleading the thought of just how how strong a team actually can be yeah you're right like those positions the one you're talking about should be waiting those are the teams those are the positions that are the highest paid positions in the league yeah because they're the most important they have the biggest impact in the game in the positions where the that though they have the biggest impact in the game I feel really good about all those yeah and I think that's probably why for you know when you got 10 position groups in this exercise that Mike Clay is doing here on ESPN and seven of them you're 15th or lower but your roster is still 11th I think is reflective of that well I would include the offensive tackles in that too yeah yeah I was going to say I would throw laramy into that that that that pot you were just they're the other one of the highest paid position groups cuz it's about protecting the quarterback at SP so laramy in pass protection more so in the Run game is really good but some of the issues that we saw in the game on last week the the preseason game I look I'm optimistic about Blake Fischer I think he's making really good progress but as a run blocker lar me tunel is still much better than him and just in terms of understanding sometimes just like the simplest and easiest way you see with young players ever this is universal across Sports so much wasted movement you know and they get in their own way sometimes by just hyper reacting or overreacting to one thing so then they can't react to a counter that's a little bit where Blake fiser and some of the young offensive linemen are right now they're just taking steps that are too big yeah the veterans know economy of motion is really helpful and you take the you're just taking the the smallest necessary step and that's something that laramy does really well it even in the Run game even though he's not a road grader but there are some of these whiffs in mental eras you're not going to see with him um it's interesting question just based on the conversation we're having Seth and I are talking if you're just getting in your car ESPN ranked all the positional groups in the NFL 1 through 32 and the Texans are fairing really well at a few of them quarterback receiver Edge rusher and then they're kind of middle of the pack or even bottom of the league in in the other seven overall roster 11th random question text page is this team's roster better than and I'm assuming they just mean Talent wise better than the two Texans teams in 2011 and 2012 that first made the playoffs um the total roster I'm going to say I'll say the same thing that Andre Johnson had said and just I I I felt like in those really competitive teams and on some of Bill O'Brien's competitive teams they were very topheavy I think this is maybe I think it's as talented at top level Talent um especially if you include the quarterback POS position I think I think most people woulde I think I think Matt sha would agree that CJ Stout's ceiling is higher than his ceiling was so I would say they are more talented at the top end and much uh much deeper throughout so yeah I think that on paper right now as we sit here in August where everything has been meaningless I think they've got the potential to be a better overall roster than those team it's funny they're they're they're kind of like a Bizarro version in this exercise if you're raiding all the position groups they're not a not a perfect flip Bizarro version of each other but like the 2011 Texans I think Matt sha in this exercise is probably like a you know like 12 to 14 or 15 quarterback whereas CJ's eighth running back they're probably near the top of the league with Arion Foster offensive line offensive line that was a top five offensive line they're 28th in this exercise that was the interior defensive line was depending on how you categorize JJ Watt you know like it was they ran a 34 you know so depending on how you C oriz a 3 four defense in this exercise are your Edge guys really more like the Conor barwin of the world or Brooks Reed right as oppos to JJ well and JJ was just JJ for the duration of the season was a rookie that was showing promise but not necessarily doing a whole lot he he kicked it in but if you look at okay as an edge rusher Brooks Reed or Conor barwin versus Will Anderson and denil Hunter right I think they've got it better like Connor was very good as a versatile three four out outside linebacker where good pass rusher could could actually be relied upon in coverage way more than most outside linebackers but he wasn't the menacing pass rusher that denil Hunter is um I would take Will Anderson over Brooks Reed so I think I I think that again when you get to the Marquee positions the the 2000 this squad right here is better and then I do think just by virtue of maybe special teams play you can see the depth of the roster and they've done it a good job Nick's done a good job with that over the last few years of getting a a pretty deep roster in terms of having guys that are capable of playing special teams yeah um let's um let's relive some of the magic from Saturday real quick because I've got an observation on the Texans and the effect they're having on their opponents here in the preseason Let's uh let's relive the magic of Jaylen Petri getting a pick six Jones fakes to give on second and eight pumps and he's going to be sacked no he gets rid of it last moment it's picked off for a touchdown there's youry Petri to the end zone pick six short range there's your guy VY must have been talking up Petri before the game yeah um and then we have this just a series or two later Jones in the gut he's got time and he airs it out deep down the right side and Stingley has a pick inside the 5 yd line Derek Stingley Jr with the interception there was no way he was going to be denied the pass intended for jayen Hyatt that that catch still it was it was one of those things where you got to credit Daniel Jones partly for it uh you know put it right on the and yet it is it was still an impressive feet pulling it off that the hands catch aspect to it that it was away from sting ley's body and not intended for him Daniel Jones was like I I felt like he was uh maybe maybe he was kind of just fixated on Derek single's hazel eyes or something fix throw pick six in the early in yeah he did drive too yeah yeah so it was uh but yeah it was both a bad pass but also a brilliant interception so you and I had talked before the Pittsburgh game you'd brought this up several times about how it's going to be cool to watch the Texans have an impact on one of the more interesting quarterback battles in the NFL right like and we didn't see Russell Wilson in that game we only saw Justin fields for like a quarter and a half and Fields did a couple good things Pittsburgh people got all hot and bothered and up and really hyped about some of the completions that he had there were Pittsburgh people that were optimistic about that performance well just some of the Articles you sent me the Writ yeah I wonder I bet Steelers fans uh the Smart Ones were not probably but this just in every fan base has dumb fans um it actually may be this quarterback room in New York that the Texans in the short term at least have had a bigger impact on in terms of The Impressions this is a manual AO of FS1 yesterday I'm not a huge AO guy but I loved this analogy about Dan Jones and again this is all on the heels of the Texans making him look like he looked his first couple years in the league this weekend this is a fantastic analogy basically calling Daniel Jones a zero how can you start Daniel Jones you are betraying your running back your tackles your guards your receivers your defensive linemen your outside backers your defensive ends your cornerbacks your safeties your inside backers you are betraying the entire organization when you make Daniel Jones a starter because all of their work is void by starting Daniel Jones that's like adding all of the numbers into a calculator and then hitting times zero you will end up at zero so it does not matter how much you keep hitting plus plus plus neighbors plus uh uh Thomas plus Dexter Lawrence uh plus okay it doesn't matter how many times you continue to hit plus because at the end of the day you have to hit times Daniel Jones and that will equal zero you know what that's really good I like that because uh you know you hear sometimes about people being like well they're Force multipliers a guy that a player that makes everybody else around him he's a force multiplier you can use that same term and say yeah he's a force multiplier you're multiplying by zero Daniel Jones is a force multip what's the factor zero zero the factor that's the word I couldn't think of that's the word I couldn't think Texline tell me if I was right or not I can't remember I was just going to say integer I stopped helping my kid with math about like fourth grade I was like I don't remember any of this crap that was what's algebra like yalls do this differently these days I don't know trig calculus do I use this stuff so uh yeah that's a he's a force factor of zero yeah even in well because it doesn't just affect the quarterback itself it affects the GM and every Joe Shane the GM I I I heard him making some argument about why they had to give him that contract because hey quarterback salaries keep rising and if you look at him now it's uh it's only like the 15 highest paid quarterback right but like so you're still paying for a viable NFL quarterback Sean it's a Triumph when this guy gets more than 12 touchdown passes in a season it's incredible I'm watching Malik Neighbors in that game who had some nice catches after that initial drop because he was terrified of Jimmy Ward um and I'm just thinking I honestly I wasn't even saying this as a joke he's he's he might be good enough to prop up Daniel Jones for another couple seasons and they're going to go through the same old thing like it cuz it's not just giving Daniel Jones the contract it's them then spending the entire offseason on HBO talking about how they can't possibly keep a 27y old running back because we got to find out what we have in Daniel Jones that dude made Daniel Jones the only time you guys were competitive was when Daniel Jones was feeling just right and had some big games I'm not a ex when saquon Barkley was feeling just right Brian dball screwed himself by coaching Daniel Jones up that first year winning coach of the year with the Giants in the year where they were supposed to like the best thing for the Giants would have been if they sucked if they sucked they would have had Bryce young CJ strout or Anthony Richardson one of the three and you're better off with any of them right now than you are with d even Bryce young you're better off with Daniel Jones just because a he can you know there there's evidence that he's a better passer than Daniel Jones to some degree whatever um but at least there's upside with him like Daniel Jones just is who he is at this he is who he is man about how long this this has a Texans tie in how long do we give Brian deall uh his new persona to last remember Bill O'Brien would come in and it seemed like every training camp like this is a Kinder gentler Bill O'Brien then by about the third week of training camp O'Brien would be over there with his face all red fuming about to punch an equipment guy or something uh i' like uh D Ball by all accounts has been much more calculating he's lost a bunch of weight he looks good he has lost weight he's got kind of a little blue collar sexyness to him right now he looks different no he definitely looks women being like there's a man that knows how to use his hands they they they they put he's got to put some grease on his uh forearms and that does it for me that's right yeah just manand some heavy machinery um the pictures they put up of him early on in the off season saying boy he and his wife too like they both you know sometimes you got to do it together like keep each other accountable and the pictures they put up like the before and afters of them I was like okay damn the wife looks good like dball kind of looks D ball kind of looks like yeah I can tell he lost weight but he still looks like a heavy like he still looks heavy like if I saw him on the street I wouldn't say damn that guy's in great shape that game on Saturday though I thought he looked good man like he looks like he's in good shape he's probably continuing to lose weight no but he's maybe it's like a comedian where where like some comedi like Jonah Hill is just funnier when he's fat than when he's skinny maybe D ball is just a better coach when he's fat than when he's skinny you know that's true yeah cuz he's just not he's not so focused on himself he's just shoveling whatever into the old pie hole there while he while his brain is and he's got extra he's got extra glucose in his system to think of the ex's and O's and everything you know he's at a carbohydrate deficit right now you got to find the right balance is a yeah going lowering your carbs is a great idea but it does get you do get to a point where it turns you dumb um and uh but you're reading so much online propaganda about how the ketones are just as good not for everybody man not for everybody you're just it's a everybody's got to find their own balance uh Factor was an accurate use of the terminology according to the text Page good job nerd I remember stuff way to go Brainiac the easiest thing that fourth graders all know yeah good Seth hunting over here yes all right um one more on Daniel Jones here's Dan orlovski on Dan me ever talk about Daniel that's the sticking point for me in those moments of panic with the ball what you do with that decision is really the determinating factor determining Factor on like are you going to be good really good great or subpar and the Giants the One season that Daniel Jones played really good football was two years ago and that's the one thing he got rid of and that right there has to be concerning to Brian dable it has to be concerning because the highs don't Mist C up for it Daniel Jones hasn't thrown two three touchdowns in a game since 2019 he hasn't thrown for three touchdown passes in a game since 2019 so if he was lighting the scoreboard up different conversation but to have that show its rear its ugly head that's got to be an issue that's got to be concerning good job Texans good job you ruined Daniel Jones you ruined the Giants so they ruined they didn't they definitely didn't make the Texans at least kept doubt in people's minds about who the quarterback should be in Pittsburgh I agree with that with the Justin Fields deal I mean for one it's I like couldn't take a snap under Center that was one issue that Justin Fields had in an offense where they really wanted the QB to be under Center a lot um so they injected doubt there they might have started to tap in the the first now on the cofin for Daniel Jones in his career yeah I think Daniel Jones and whatever their other well that's the other thing with ao's take from a few minutes ago Emanuel AO saying that you're doing basically everybody else the other 52 guys are disservice by starting Daniel Jones yeah his backup is Tommy DeVito what the hell's that you know like yeah beloved why he's Italian oh and he's not even you're only voting for him CU he's Italian he's not even interesting either he's doing these videos where he's sitting down with like Italian chefs in New York and he's like he's got the personality of a mash potato he's like I want a stereotypical Italian JY Italian damn it I almost cursed yes I do amp it up a little bit if your name's Tommy DeVito I better feel like you might whack me if I'm in the same room with he's got he's got to be Tom DeVito until he shows reason otherwise I know Tommy they like using they like I know it's an Italian thing I'm saying's Tom or Thomas I thought you meant to make him more Italian de italianized him you're right he doesn't deserve the the the extra syllable on his first name he's just Thomas what's your favorite pizza Tommy DeVito uh dominoes yeah yeah yeah yeah what's your favorite pizza shop I like The Dominoes at the mall sabaro um all right so I'm Gonna Save two of for the next segment uh this is they they need Tommy DeVito in that Michael Scott meme where he's where he's standing in front of saaro go get some authentic new New York slice my favorite spot for a New York slice is sabaro um I guess the um the Bengals and the Colts have been practicing with each other this week yes um and I guess the Bengals were talking all sorts of tra this this is important for the Texans because the Texans play the Colts in week one the Colts had a combined practice for the Bengals yesterday and the Colts will play their starters tomorrow night so you get some prime time Colts action I'm excited about that yeah well you see Anthony Richardson right if they're going to play their starters I guess the this is according to Olivia Ray who covers the Bengals she said the Bengals defense isun running their mouth after a dominant day versus the CT starters now granted this is through a lens of a Bengals person watching this cam Taylor Brit after an Anthony Richardson scramble that's all he do is run BJ Hill throw the damn ball Gino Stone after a Richardson incompletion he only throws to spots he don't throw to receivers yeah yeah it's good trash talk that is honestly I haven't watched Anthony Richardson's SEC second pre-season game the first preseason game I thought there were there was some stuff on TV that or like the TV highlight that made it look worse than it was but he did show a lot of the signs of being a Young quarterback in some of his decisions in that game so I didn't see anything that made me scared now with the one Bengals player saying all he do is run that doesn't help me feel any better because yeah we that was enough was enough that's all he had to do in the first quarter versus the Texans that basically put that game Out Of Reach he he ran and ran and ran untouched although they did uh who was the defensive back that knocked him gave him the concussion on the goal line oh who was that I got to go look that up he ran untouched until he was actually crossing the crossing the goal line and that's where he got his concussion he went back out and played a little bit after that out of the game I want to say it might have been that old DHC character that DeAndre Houston Carson yeah whoever it was don't worry let's not I'm going to look it up yeah I'm going to look it up though um whatever happened to Justin Brit somebody texted in nobody knows nobody knows the last we heard of Justin Brit was Lovey Smith I remember this I was mowing the lawn and I was listening to the press conference and Lovey Smith said I'll let you guys know by this afternoon what happened to Justin Brit and nobody ever heard from him again he didn't say which after he didn't say this afternoon yeah I don't know if Jack easterby has been implicated in his disappearance yet or not um I can't remember whether Jack easterby himself admitt fired by that point in the season but nobody knows what happened to Justin Brit he had not and now I haven't Googled it or anything he might has he might own a woodwork he seems like a guy that would own like a woodworking shop or something yeah you know he's just you know what I could see him being a ship right he would uh and I was out I was out visiting my friend in Seattle farer and he was sitting we were sitting up on this uh this this fire uh this fire pit they had overlooking one of the it was either Puget Sound or one of the water beautiful oh was crazy yeah farer man he's doing all right he's doing good yeah but uh you know sitting there next to a fire pit with with Dave freaking Matthews and his wife oh that's right that was that trip overlooking the sound I'm like oh this is I might have to just start smoking a bunch of pot or something this is uh but uh one of the guys that I was talking to was I was like so uh so what do you do man he's like I'm a ship Builder and I'm like a ship Builder what did you respond to that uh build submarines ad that I see on major league baseball this year and now he's been like for the last 30 years of his life he builds boats I don't think he called himself a ship Builder or whatever like Yachts I think okay but he just builds them by hand he's got like a couple assistants and everything yeah oh my God it's an industry out there in this sound well they got a lot of water I uh I have such respect for people more than in Iowa build things yeah yeah it's a good if you're going to build ships best to be not in a landlock state good call so that's a guy that's I think kind of a blue collar you think Brit could go and he used to play for the for the Seahawks too so he could move right back send him a line and like hey man you always seemed to me like a guy that would be into boat building Good Ship right yeah you should go do it yeah yeah so that's so I we say all that to say we have no idea what happened to Justin Brit texter um just Lovey Smith promised we'd hear something and we're on day we're on day 714 of Brit watch we don't know where he is all right uh pay and Pendergast with you um so uh Tua Tong of vioa took a took big shots at Brian FL called him a bad P literally called him a bad person Brian Flores was asked about this yesterday we'll judge how Brian Flores handled the news that he's a bad person in one man's opinion uh we've got that audio for you coming up next stay there but first Berkeley ey Center if you if you are wearing glasses or contacts right now and you're in your car and I know you're bracing [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] today live from the Twin Peak Studios Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast all right let's reset cuz the big story around the NFL the last two days has been the soap oper between Tua Tonga V aloa and Brian Flores Tua just took aim took his missiles out and just aimed them right at Brian Flores straight from Dan lebatard's couch um to a tongue of aloa had this to say about his former his for leard had him shooting missiles missiles from his couch um this was to a tongue of IO a couple days ago talking about his former head coach Brian Flores and what a drain he was on him to put it in simplest terms if you woke up every morning and I told you you suck at what you did that you don't belong doing what you do that you shouldn't be here that this guy should be here that you haven't earned this right and then you have somebody else come in and tell you dude you are the best fit for this like you are accurate you are the best whatever you are this you are that like how would it make you feel listening to one or the other you see what I'm saying and then you hear it you hear it regardless of what it is the good or the bad and you hear it more and more you start to actually believe that I don't care who you are you you could be the president of the United States you have a terrible person that's telling you things that you you don't want to hear or that that you probably shouldn't be hearing you're going to start to believe that about yourself and so that's sort of like what what ended up happening and it was I mean it's basically been what two years of training that out of not just me but you know uh a couple of the guys as well that have been here since my rookie year all the way till now okay so before we play Brian flores's response the one thing I was thinking about this yesterday and I actually thought about that President analogy again because it's a horrible analogy most presidents do not lack for self-confidence it's uh it's like that's it's one of the prerequisites of the job is that you're going to take a lot of arrows those dudes when was the last president were you're like H if only he were more confident yeah uh but I do think I think that's a little instructive in terms of like in any communication there's the message and and there's the receiver the messenger and the receiver there's person delivering the and when you say the same thing to 10 different people it's 10 different messages because they all hear it through their own filters and I do Wonder exactly what Brian Flores was saying to Tua and like specifically I would love to know what he was saying but then how Tua interpreted it cuz Tua obviously interpreted it as being told that I suck and I'm not here Brian Flores could have said that to us presid president and I think a lot of presidents might have interpreted it differently so I don't know specifically what Flores said but it it at the very least I can say maybe Flores misgauged the situation or misgauged unless he just genuinely did want to destroy his confidence and get out there or something but I can't like this is man I saw all these people lamb basting Flores before they even heard his side of anything and it's just classically uh he said she said all right well this is one dude's version and by the way most qu backs don't come out and Dish like this even after they've worked with I do like I'm not I'm not trying to say too is soft or anything but I think amongst 32 NFL quarterbacks he might be the one who least needed the tough love approach you know well I look at the way he was handling his contract situation Tua is I think and I know he played for Nick Sabin but I think there's a good chance that Nick Sabin might have this Gruff exterior with the media and on the sidelines and things like that and maybe handle things differently behind the scenes and maybe even with Tua offload that to Steve sarkeesian or whoever the OC was at the time there's probably a lot more interaction with that person going on who knows Flores let's let's play Flores here the one thing Flores is guilty of is not knowing what management style works with Tua I think we can all agree on that whatever he was saying to him it it clearly ruined Tua who was a really important asset for that team having used a top five pick on him here was Flores yesterday saying he wishes two of the best I just want to say look I'm I'm I'm happy genuinely happy uh genuinely uh genuinely happy for the success that TS had um and I really wish him nothing but the best uh and you know I think you know player relationships are very important to me um they I think that's kind of the foundation of coaching I got into coaching because you know I was impacted as a as a as a a young guy by my High School coaches my college coaches my going all the way to pop warner U my gu in the coaching because you know I want to make that same kind of impact positive impact pour into young people uh help them become you know as KO says all the time the best versions of themselves um and you know that's really my goal always in coaching KO is Kevin oconnell the head coach of the Vikings who he's talking about there it's um I and it's another classic thing again where man sometimes just different cultures are the wrong fit for different dudes and I think Flores is in a culture of uh this bill parcel's tree of like cuz I played in a bill Parcels tree and yeah there's a kind of a rough culture it's kind of man it's brutal it's brutal like they want to see how tough you are and everything else like that and you do you're stressed out all the time because you're just you're terrified of getting yelled at in films it's uh Ted Johnson and I used to have therapy sessions about this together um like it's a different culture and some guys can handle it and some guys can't I don't think it doesn't mean that doesn't mean that one is better and one is worse I do like having seen the way the other world operates like the Deo Ryan's world and everything I'm like well if given a choice if both can succeed yeah I kind of see the appeal of uh of the the Kinder gentler side of it but I don't yeah I don't like I can't stand here and act like Brian Flores was just an evil person because he he he hurt young tender to a two ofo to to a tongue of ao's feelings I'm 100% with you on that I thought clearly Brian Flores at the beginning of that cut we just played was pondering which direction he should go with his answer CU he one thing he didn't do is deny that he said all those things I feel like he just I thought he prob felt like it was a no win situation I thought he seemed genuinely contrite in terms of this's a way I intereted it by his uh I I think I I interpreted it as maybe he also could have said like look you know I Tred to do this pour into guys and and you know I probably should have taken a different tax with Tua um or I didn't read you know maybe I just I need to do a better job of seeing how it's affecting people or whatever um but I don't like I I it was for me it it seemed like genuinely heartfelt enough that it it wasn't just boilerplate I'm going to say what I have to say about like I don't talk about situations or whatever so I felt like it was a little bit more human than I expected it was way more human than I expected cuz the Pix I don't you know I haven't watched a ton of Brian Flores up in front of the media before like tua's picture that he paints there in that two minutes he was talking about him is the most Insight I've gotten into what Brian Flores is all about who's been following the Dolphins when Flores was the coach there you know what I mean and so I was expecting I was expecting like a bellich type response where he's just not going to address any like we're he's going to get asked about this take 10 seconds deflecting and saying I'm thinking about the I'm thinking about the Seahawks or whoever were playing in week three of the preseason coming up and he did do some of that at the end like and we'll play here's one more from Brian Flores this is Brian Flores on Tua calling him a terrible person that hit me in a way that you know wasn't I wouldn't say was you know positive for me um but at the same time I you know I've got to use that and say hey how can I how can I grow from that you know how can I be better um and that's really um that's really where I'm at from from that standpoint um do I feel like you know that's me no but you know how can I grow from that situation and create a create a world where that's not you know the case that anyone says that about about Brian Flores all right so here's the thing too Seth about Brian Flores is that's getting lost in this I think he he won games with the dolphins like he's two seasons with Tua in the building he overperformed he went 10- six in two his rookie year and he went N9 and8 in two his second year and that's where if I were Brian Flores if I thought to myself man cuz he clearly got fired because he couldn't get along with they chose Tua over Flores and you can tell by the guy they hired to replace florz that that was the issue they H there questions whether yeah Mike McDaniel came in and the first thing he's doing is FaceTiming with Tua from the plane Flores would contend that he got fired because he won too many games you know because he was uh the flores's side of that story was that the owner was actively encouraging him to lose games and he refused right that's right I forgot about that if I'm Brian Flores maybe I'm looking back like okay maybe if I had adapted my management style just a little bit I mean they went 10 and six and 9 and8 with that his functional environment that Tu is talking about they were above 500 both years yeah when that's where it also gets into like okay grading against how you think things should be versus sometimes in Pro Sports especially you got to deal with what the resources that you have and maybe Tua wasn't as tough as he wanted to be or whatever um but you got to realize yeah but this is our guy and we got like I got I got to figure out a way to get the most out of him yeah and he's not a left guard he's the quarterback you know like he's he's face of the franchise your quarterbacks and I I think that um the one thing you've seen out of guys like okay Sabin and bellich through their careers was that I think both those guys and I'm not saying this lightly or anything but at all I'm not trying to say this in a light way but they're like they're I think a little bit on the Spectrum you know like they're incredibly analytical and stuff but early in their career like the human side of things like completely eluded them and and to their credit they both had to work on it I mean bich hired Consultants to help teach them to basically better be better with people so he was aware of it well yeah he was aware of it you know and I think that they had to figure it out and they needed to learn how to soften some of their edges and like I think maybe Flores probably has to go through that transition too when it comes to being a head coach but I but it is it's at the end of the day there's a part I can't get over when it comes to two his side of it it's it's he said she said and it's a quarterback who's doing something that active NFL quarterbacks almost never do that I can remember which is dishing about interpersonal issues in a in an extreme way where they're like basically slinging arrows at another coach right now and maybe that makes him courageous or maybe it makes him a guy that's just more affected by it than than other NFL quarterbacks dude and I know we need to get out here but real quick like you won the war you got your 53 million I I I could understand it more if the Dolphins were Heming and Hauling about paying him and he's trying to use some platform somewhere to say like hey look the reason I don't have the body of work that some of these other guys do one concussions two the first two years I it's taken me two years to get rid of the scars from the first two years yeah you know but you got paid man like just man go follow fall ask backwards into your pile of money yeah up next John Elway tears into Dan Reeves dude you got your two Super Bowls what are you doing all right uh paint and Pendergast we head into the 8:00 hour Astros lose last night but there there is something I discovered this morning that um I need to be a little bit more focused on when it comes to the Houston Astros no and I'm going to bring everybody along for the ride with me on this one because I feel like there's people in the audience that may be suffering from the same thing we'll get to that coming up next Bay Way Ram don't suffer don't suffer when it comes to dreaming about a [Music] okay [Music] d [Music] [Music] [Music] I [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] ltfm ht2 Houston Insider access exclusive content Sports Radio 610 the Texans play here an odyssey sports station Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast cartini lost one into right field playable Tyler O'Neal is there and he puts it away and the Boston Red Sox have won the middle game of the series defeating the Astros for the first time this year that snaps a seven game winning streak for Houston against the Red Sox dating back to last season Astros with a loss tonight have still won 11 of their last 13 games tough one tonight just want to be clear that was not anybody in the booth cheering the outcome of that game loud clapping that was some annoying Bostonian right or just Red Sox fan but might as well be a Bostonian at heart whoever was they were an annoying person somebody on a 99 degree day in Houston wearing a uh sleeveless fleece yeah it was funny the other night when they won on the Yer Diaz walk-off and they're showing like a wide shot of the crowd and and callus is doing the thing that you do when they're showing a shot of the home crowd after a win he recites what the attendance was and said Yer Diaz sending 4,751 home happy and I'm Amy andr watching like not that guy not that guy or that guy or that guy because the Red Sox travel pretty good the Red Sox are one of those teams that has fans everywhere yeah um it's not as bad as it used to be man I remember when I first moved back here in 2007 and going to minute made Park and that was when the Astros were kind of starting on the downturn from the Clemens and Pettit years and boy redx fans would invade that mofo man in 2008 cuz they won the World Series in 2007 so it was Peak Red Sox uh it was Wild Man people on the YouTube stream that was yeah that looked like I got electros shcked yeah so um so Astros lose last night no biggie because the uh because the Seattle Mariners that's all they do is lose yeah they're peeing down their leg in a big big way we should have added them to that segment yesterday when we did peeing down the leg peeing segment we could do that I was talking about what I was peeing down my leg about right we could uh we could do one where we talk about where other people or teams are peeing down their legs various uncontrollable urinators yes adult diaper wearers yes not not no offense anybody that has them but as a sports team that's not where you want to be ideally you know typically when you're wearing an adult diaper you're not in the prime of your you're not in the prime of your uh life we'll get back to the Astros in a second craziest use of an adult diaper not craziest but the people I have a good friend who's in broadcasting who often times has to broadcast three four 5 Hour pay-per-views uhhuh he's older yeah with WWE for a while can put the pieces together yeah he throws a depends on yeah go dark pants and depends I was think about it when I walk past the uh the adult diaper models that they use on the on the packages I feel they're almost they they usually use kind of like a plus-size male model yeah I'm like I feel like I could maybe get a slide into that gig at some point you think model I think now I might be at the right age too where I look like a I look like an adult but I'm not I don't look old yet where they might be like yeah like I feel like a lot of guys that might be in the market for the first time for an adult diaper be like yeah that guy's like me you could make it sexy man I don't want to make it sexy I'm trying to appeal to like the average man that's looking for it you know and now if it is sexy you look pretty good man want to both uh both people however whichever they swing so yeah like I don't look like I'm overtly but yeah yeah good and then we could get a sponsor for the leg peeing male diaper model Seth Payne hey Ben put in the Google Doc of business ideas possible sponsorships for set we need to disrupt that industry I bet there's like some old brick and mortar you know like yeah how about some you know what I would do like what like what they do with Underoos except we do it all from stuff from our childhood I'd have like um or our like when we came of age I'd have like Seinfeld and welcome back under ma diapers right right great this is what we need to right for the ladies we could do Judy Bloom stuff and everything you know Sopranos yeah adult diapers Uncle would I have Uncle Junior or Tony Soprano on it you can have either one you can have want uncle junor they want to be Tony Soprano some people might you know but we can have multiple character under didn't have all the superheroes on him you could be Superman I got to go up and snatch exclusive licensing deals cuz else is going for that right now take the rest of the show off you better do this now CU someone's going to steal this idea all right so um back to the Astros um ryel Blanco concern level on the Seth C pom meter right now what's your what's your concern level not concerned as you are I'm concerned about down your leg about reel Blanco I am a little bit a little bit I'm concerned about Blanco but I'm not concerned about the impact of it until I see what Verlander is okay so here's the difference so we talked about earlier since June I Pro Foot Pro Baseball Reference hadn't updated it from last night's game yet um but he was at like going into last night's game he was a 3.8 ER since June July 1st okay so that's gone up that's it's gone up so he might be around four but he's been an average pitcher so like average MLB starting pitcher is about a 4.0 ra yeah we don't realize that in Houston because we've been so spoiled we look at a 4.0 ER like you should be out modeling male diapers um but that's also been as I think he's just just been struggling with some fatigue or wear and tear of pitching more Innings than he's ever pitched before I do feel like he can reclaim that now that they'll be in a steady six six pitcher rotation more than anything I just want to see him go deeper into games he's had too many four inning appearances and I think that's where you and I differ a little bit is I'm just not as optimistic as you are that this six-man rotation is going to be the exact Elixir that he needs right because they have been able to give him some extra off days over this last stretch too so it's not but I mean and we saw a bump you know I thought yeah yeah yeah no it's and the qu and I'm not s I'm not sitting here saying that he's trash all of a sudden dur the commercial breaks you are that's not true don't dime me out like that Tua what are you talking about yeah um so uh no it's so it's not that I think he's hot garbage or anything like that but we're now back in the world where used to being in which is the Astros are probably going to win the division they're going to compete to at least get a Buy in the in the first round of the playoffs yeah but if they don't this becomes especially critical yeah is is what he's doing good enough to have a job in the major leagues for a an average Major League Baseball team sure is it good enough to throw out there in October when you're trying to beat good teams and win a a five or a seven game or a three game series if you're in the wild card he wouldn't pitch in the Wild Card round I'm pretty confident of that that no not right not not as it is right now be fber Hunter Brown and then if earlander is healthy it'd be him right but I mean we would have said the same thing about Hunter Brown not too long ago he's definitely not a tough three guy I say that I'm acting like well no it is a three- game series it's best two out of three so then the a but then the if you if you got to pitch those three guys if you're in a Wild Card round ryel Blanco enters the chat you know like he's gonna pitch probably in the next round of the playoffs so I guess I'm not I'm not peeing down my leg about him just yet um I feel I have little drips coming out it's not a steady stream right right right right um very graphic uh the Kikuchi Kikuchi is the guy that I'm not allowing myself to get super excited about partly it's because they're facing the Red Sox and this is where I just I hated that I read this article in the athletic about the the demise of the Red Sox pitching this year where they were go they were off on a tear they were like top two in every statistical category for the first part of the season and now they've fallen off a cliff now they're pitching as atrocious one of the things that they did was they had their pitchers stopped throwing as many fast balls because the analytics Bros I think probably like the the Astros all started throwing more change UPS I think they started to realize teams were just really getting good at hitting fast getting better at hitting fast balls yeah so they kind of ambushed the league with how few fast balls they were throwing the league caught up and figured it out and now they're more ready for what they're seeing so with Kikuchi where they they changed up his pitch selection a little bit and we've seen immediate results I just want to wait and see like if it endures and stands a test of time that's fair and I'd like to see him go at least just give me give me onethird of an inning extra just get to get to the Blessed number six please get to six next time get to six all right so afternoon game today Verlander on the mound as regular season games go this one is highly intriguing today Verlander hasn't pitched since June 9th and uh so we're two and a half months with no man credit the pitching the coaching staff with these pitchers give him a lot of credit give a spot of credit for the way he's kind of juggled this staff and managed this whole thing send him a package of Seth Payne brand Under RS yes we have Wade bogs Edition that'll be something like well I guess Wade bogs wouldn't be a good one we'll do a Nolan Ryan I'll talk to him about it there you go uh I'll go through Reed I don't want to Nolan might get offended if I say but like I'll be like Reed Reed you know Flo it to Reed you put Nolan Ryan on a package of adult diapers those things will be flying off the shelves not just like the illegal variety that happens so much at drugstores these days but people will be paying for them paying for yes they they're going to have to start putting the adult diapers under lock and key like the razors yes um yeah I I think you'd have people in their 20s and 30s buying it that don't even have problems with that kind of thing if you put Nolan Ryan on that bad boy so yeah so but the pitching staff deserves a lot of credit both the coaches and the analytics staff so um the fact that they've been able to and and to spot it too just for the overall team being able to manage through so many injuries y um but I like I'm I'm I guess I'm more maybe I'm irrationally confident in Spencer arag Getti uh who's also going to be going over his max here very shortly he's had like five good starts in a row so like it's so I'm enthusiastic about him but like it I think throwing him out there in October is a little different I think he's going to go through his career high innings in his next start as long as it's quality start yeah he's gotten better as the years's gone on for sure hell yeah no and I think with arag Getti the same way it was with you know Hunter Brown just did it earlier arag Getti you can see the growth and maturation you can see them start to you can almost read it on their faces that as they made that transition into being more of a a genuinely professional major league pitcher uh so there's that I have zero concern about Hunter brown right now like he's got a big enough body of work where I feel like okay this is who he is at this point now and some of it with him has to do with like his stuff is just so electric you know like he's he's built for this like he's physically literally Built For This and and I think people forget he threw almost 160 Innings last year you know so he's got a on Pace to throw more but not by an alarming degree or anything break through at some no no no and that's where I mean it's like but it's it's a more manageable feel where with Blanco it was it's a huge difference in comparison to how much he's been as a starting Uncharted Territory for him um I think with Verlander if you look at his Minor League start they had hoped to get him 75 pitches he only ended up pitching 57 but it didn't look like he needed to stop I think it was the people speculated it was just because he had a really long wait between the first and second inning but I wonder if maybe now the pitch count is going to be the same because he hasn't gotten up there yet that it's probably a 75 pitch pitch count he needs to be efficient today that's the biggest thing I I would almost rather how Blanco last night he just he he pitched so many pitches Blanco kind of screwed him last night because you've got you you got Blanco last night who didn't go four Innings threw 84 pitches and then you've got Verlander today who's like if you get if you get five innings out of Verlander I would sign up for that right now five innings out of Verlander because I don't think he's I don't think he goes over 75 pitches today it would be my guess um textt message Sean Blanco makes me dribble yeah that's probably about where I am on that scale someone says I would be the perfect model for Depends and I don't think that's a compliment I feel like in might no well why it's a I I do think I do think when I look at these depend uh or various other undergarments male models that they use I do think that maybe they need to shoot a little bit higher I feel like they're going for like yeah they want we want a guy that's relatable to the people that buy just go ahead and start using like the super skinny freaks use these like 22-year-old male models or whatever and like it making the making the the blue steel face you know just do that you have taken a much closer look at the packaging on male adult undergarments the torture of having my brain is that I can't my brain and the way it operates it's grocery shopping with you I feel like would be a lot of fun it's a I'd say I get a lot of text from my wife when I'm shopping that they're like are you okay where are you I'm like yeah I'm fine she's like you've been at Walmart for 90 minutes where do you get where okay so where where do you get is the answer where do I get hung up where do yes everywhere I get hung up at the outdoors section even though I would didn't have to take a path through the outdoors do you know how long it takes to plan a camping trip that I'm not actually taking Sean I'm sitting there I'm calculating the weight of my pack and like oh what I'm being soft I don't I don't need a camp stove like but it would be nice and then you go out to your car and you just close your eyes for 30 minutes and imagine the camping trip that you would have been on no it's that I'm like fantasizing about it or anything I'm actually planning for it I'm like actually just making decisions that are hard decisions brandy brandy I've got these are not easy decisions the weight of your pack affects the enjoyment you get on that trip by a large degree and God forbid a a snowstorm blows through like you don't want to be underprepared but you also got to have energy to pack out I love that yeah dude Walmart Walmart labor man that's a rough place to go if you're easily distracted man yeah they got everything in there I don't but I don't impulse purchase or anything I just that was my next question like what okay what percentage of stuff that you stop and fantasize and look at conser reports in Walmart way too much I really am I'm like well this is of course a better than why are these priced so differently oh this is an outrage that's great uh all right pain and Pendergast with you on a Wednesday Texans back at practice in about 45 minutes so we got to hustle out there today my friend we'll be fine what are we going to get find run through the cone Sean nobody wants to see that the first thing I did when I retired from football I stopped running through cones yeah did you throw your con pull up short do you still own you used to bring cones with you on the road well yeah I use cones for mental drills when I'm walking through uh get ready for the show get ready to go on YouTube I still have the drills for it no I I don't run at all anymore uh just because of I'm thinking about with these hokas I feel almost like I might be able to jog a little bit don't push man whatever you're doing is working you know don't do something that's going to feels there's something uh I feel like there's something though about actually well like I walk a lot but there's something about running that just clicks something in your body your body was meant to run and there is something like I don't know metabolically or whatever else it's just different than any kind of I could do the exact same heart rate uh on an elliptical machine or a stationary bike and it just doesn't feel like your body responds to it the same way as like doing that exact same heart rate and everything else when running yep the endorphins aren't that's what it probably is I don't think I think your body naturally releases the endorphins when you're running dude I don't get Runners man and my daughter is one she coaches running it's a the biggest thing if you're somebody that's trying to run and you just feel like oh I'm not a runner the problem is don't think of yourself as somebody who needs to run well yeah it's the whatever like when your daughter is running at a five mile clip a five minute mile clip like for most people that's probably like an 11 minute mile in terms of exertion level and everything and if you want to get that that feel that good feel just run it whatever where it actually feels enjoyable where it feels enjoyable you feel you're yeah if you have to walk a good amount then no big deal just to you know go on trust me trust me I I have to walk a good amount uh all right I watched the Highlight Reel of 2022 Damen Pierce yesterday it got me sad thinking about this coming Saturday I will explain coming up next but first prize picks oh yeah I was doing that last night too putting in my lineup on PRI [Music] [Music] oh e [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] free Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast all right so I um I saw a highlight reel of Damen Pierce from 2022 yesterday and it's been you know it's been a while since we've seen that Damen pierce it is it's crazy to go back and watch just how impactful physical yeah how explosive he was back then like it's just it's like watching a different human being no 100% is and I think um I think more and more people are com catching on to my My Philosophy on of it it and you know we talked about this all offseason is that I I think part of it might just be as simple as he needs to be back at the body weight he was when he was playing like that cuz look it's great to experiment with your body weight a little bit maybe be a sleeker athlete and all that but it feels like Damen Pierce has gotten to a point now where it it's like a quarterback who's lost arm strength but doesn't want to let go of it um but then they start to lose their confidence when they realize they don't have their arm strength the with Damien he he doesn't break tackles anymore and now it's almost like he knows that he can't break tackles and it's created a hesitancy in how he runs but he lost all that weight and he lost his superpower and losing that weight but without gaining enough on the speed side to be a fast NFL running back that's right so you're just trying to be something that you're not you know and I think I and I don't know if this is something that you can fix in the next month or so where you you don't want to tell a guy hey go go gain 15 PBS you know like it's some muscle memory to it and everything and he was like he wasn't as lean then as he so he could gain some fat and it might be all right some guys just are better big backs you know at any position in football you got to find your ideal playing weight and this this is not working for him it's not working for him at all he looks like he came back even Slimmer this year than he came back last year right I know I was kind of surprised that some of the I like people were making a big deal about him losing weight this year without mentioning that yeah he lost weight last year too remember yeah and and it hasn't been so hot don't like this right just get back to what was working be like a pitcher that goes back and watches old film Verlander talks about this all the time you go back and watch film from a time when it was working what's different yeah oh I was 15 pounds heavier or whatever it is with Damen yep what do you think the most likely scenario is for this weekend with Damen that he he sits on Saturday like he's a ma guy cuz he's been treated like a ma guy this whole training camp he didn't play in the Hall of Fame game he's getting all the number one reps when Mixon is out we're going to play a cut from Deo here or two in a second that are indicative of a guy who sees Damen Pierce as a lock to make this team do you see him sitting on Saturday playing on Saturday and making the team or playing on Saturday and being either cut or traded I think and honestly if if part of what's leading to his bad decision- making and everything is some kind of a knowledge that he's not breaking tackles the way he used to I don't think that's going to I don't think that's fixed on Saturday um so if he plays uh I think there's a chance he doesn't make the team I don't think they're going to see that click that they're hoping for or waiting for now if he plays and doesn't play well maybe they'll have that conversation maybe they like I'm I'm guessing that they've talked and thought about this about his body weight you know and I mean because it really is sometimes the things are so basic I don't know though nobody thought to tell Hunter Brown to throw a sinker until Alex bregman did you know so maybe they haven't thought about it but it's as simple as this go back to what he was doing when it was working on a worst football team and one of the biggest and most glaring things was it was a different body weight so maybe plays and then that's where they realize or he realizes all right well this clearly isn't working I got to get back to whatever my body weight was my rookie year and maybe they'll see if that's going to work out and they'll give him spot Duty in games to see if it's working but it's um I like I'm not optimistic that he's going to go out there and do anything different because and this is where it gets tough and people want to make it an either or thing the I was not happy with the Run blocking at all I was not happy with it one bit going back and watching it each time I'm like they're making how are all these linebackers unblocked how are there this many mental airs why do we have four guys trying to block two guys with two guys running free it's it was bad but even in in all of that Damien wasn't taking making the bestc decisions are taking the best route and he's not and he continues to not break tackles here here so you think he plays on Saturday I do think he plays and I'm not I'm not optimistic about it maybe I I hope to be proven dramatically wrong but I do too if they don't play him at all then I'll be I'll be if he doesn't play it all and then he makes the team I'm going to be disappointed in the Texans I they're going to make the same mistake they made at the beginning of last year like frankly they're Jose abing it if they do that they're just not they're not acknowledging what they're seeing with their very eyes we've had people make that comparison that's good comparison here was Deo Ryan this was during the Spring program this is during either OTAs or mini camp about Damen Pierce being a one-two punch with Joe Mixon I see Damien having a very clear head space as we're out working and I think that will allow him to have a a really productive year this year um and he has the two he has everything it takes right to be a really good running back for us and I think having him and Joe as a one-two punch would be very beneficial for us all okay so onew punch so that was back in the spring this is from this cut you're about to hear is from two weeks ago when they were in Ohio and Steve W and Brian baldinger were at practice with the Texans and they sat down with the m Ryans and baldinger was kind of gushing about how how Damen looked in practice and here was deo's reaction to that Damen has done a great job since the spring I just see a guy who has a clear mind y fast feet he's playing decisive right I mean he's explosive so you're back to seeing that rookie Damian who can gain a lot of yards for us and and he has a physical mindset to him that I really love love how he finishes the runs I'm excited to see him you know play on Friday to see so everyone can see right this new SL old Damian how he was his rookie year what have I what have I told you over and over again about training camp it lies like training camp practice it lies all the time particularly it favors speed and things like that but you completely remove the genuinely physical element of it so Damen Pierce's calling card the physicality and all of that look man like and looking back on it now I feel kind of dumb for not seeing this and thinking about it or realizing at the time even when they were in you know pads but not tackling Damen was on the ground a lot yeah he'd get somebody would lay a shoulder into him and he'd be on the ground and so when you add the the actual genuine physical element of it cuz I was in that same boat I thought Damen looked really good but training camp lies and and we all get and and and it's it's one of the biggest blind spots you have when you're watching training camp practices is that even as you're consciously telling yourself yeah but this isn't for real it's hard not to notice the positive things yeah but damen's calling card is breaking tackles and he just has not demonstrated any ability to do it and and it's come to it's come to light in actual tack football it's yeah the this to me is the most fascinating thing about Saturday's game there's not a lot that's fascinating about the last preseason game other than the positional battles for spots 45 through 53 in the practice squad and those are fun especially on a team like this because there's good players on this team that aren't going to make the team like it's really intriguing this is the most intriguing thing right now is Damen Pierce gonna play and I'm with you if he doesn't play Then boy is he getting a pass if he does play like is this the last we've seen of Damen Pierce as the second year in a row that they would have gone into the season they did this last year they clung on to it remember it was relatively early in the season I told you Devin single ter is going to be the main running back on this team you did and they continued to just make Damen the guy make Damien the guy you can't do that two years in a row you can't go into the season thing this is the one part where again and this is not like a criticism of them in how they do their jobs in total but every person no matter how smart they are have blind spots they all do and in a good football organization hopefully you have a GM and a head coach where they can see each other's blind spots and they kind of cover for each other that way and I if Damen goes in and he's the backup running back I think this is an a situation where both both uh both Deo and Nick might have a blind spot for Damen yeah and there needs to be somebody else in the organization that's like Hey listen guys I we this we got to see this for what it is right now well here's the other thing and I think you'll agree with me on this one cuz you and I were sitting next to each other and both pointed this out and said H when we were in the Press Box the one rationalization you could have in keeping Damen Pierce on the roster would be kick return the one time he returned to kick on Saturday he paused and stopped when he got to all the bodies there he looked like David he looked like um Daniel Jones going into that slide he didn't know whether to slide or throw his shoulder or whatever so he just kind of limped into it yeah he just slowed down and and and the and the other thing about the kick returning too if this is what the kick return is going to be this year this new format I don't I don't know that damen's style is conducive to this Damen even said last year when he was on the postgame show with me and Clint after the Cleveland game where he returned that kick 100 yards for a touchdown he said I like this cuz this the kickoff feels a lot more like yeah like like the style of running that I'm good at where you just man there's a hole just north south boom go this is a lot more like this this is closer to like a Zone blocking thing going and the other that's the other thing where where he's had a path blocked for him like in the game the other night it's um you know the one the one shotgun run they had down in the red zone it wasn't a beautiful haul like Kenyan green didn't do a great job of kicking out the defensive end the defensive end was able to kind of two Gap him on it but there was a hole there and he didn't hit it tried to bounce it out and again I think cam Acres might have been able to bounce it out other running backs could have um but damen's not fast enough to bounce that out he's got to hit the hole there when they were backed up on the goal line there was some really bad blocking on that play and yet he also didn't take the right he had a he if he'd hit it hard he had a lane he could have gotten positive yardage out of that play um but the reason that Blake fiser whiffed and the fullback both whiffed those guys were able to make contact well Blake Fisher's got guy was able to make contact right at the goal line because Damen just wasn't hitting it as hard as he could have so it was bad blocking yes but where he where he should have really been hitting it and where there was a clear path he just he wasn't doing it with the ferocity that he should have Seth talking about getting distracted in Walmart this is a text message and his wife texting him what's taking so long most relatable segment on sports radio to be clear she she all usually text are you okay yeah she she's not nagging me I think she's genuinely concerned I'm okay uh wheat straw brings up a good recommendation here Order curbside at Walmart it'll keep you from getting distracted but you might enjoy it we do I do like yeah it's like sometimes I just got to go into the store I like going to if I've got a usually what I do is I show up at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday morning um if I go to a big box store and there's nobody there yeah yeah yeah well except you got to compete with those uh the actual Shoppers for the curbside and they and they're good at picking out the strawberries you got to yeah they're going to take all the good ones so I do all my Sho I try to do it one Fell Swoop whichever store I have to go to I do it like at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday morning if I'm going to HB 6:00 a.m. well they don't open till 7 I think but whatever whatever earliest you can get there yeah um also when I was talking about being a a depend model yeah I don't know why Brandy would text this this is making money for the family OMG depends model what the hell is wrong with you she's laughing crying Emoji she's the best uh yeah clearly I mean she's awesome but clearly she's not into money okay yeah apparently she's ashamed of her uh depend model husband uh something Brandy doesn't like capitalism sorry if you can't brag about that to your friends it's paying for the it's paying for the lunch yeah that would be great she's the depends Queen That's it man she just started conspicuously working it into conversations cuz she was so proud of the first lady of depend she like asking for help at the drugstore when she doesn't even know she like oh I got distracted because oh I didn't didn't realize it was right there I was looking say that's my husband H yes imagine that all right um wide receiver drama in the NFL and Justin Jefferson's contract is is killing these teams we got updates on the three big wide receiver soap operas going on right now we will update you on that next but first Dr Ben salento he I tell you what he he killed us [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] live from the Twin Peak Studios Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast all right so CD lamb Brandon auk Jamar Chase those are the three big wide receiver soap operas going on right now credit the Minnesota Vikings for dropping 35 million a year on Justin Jefferson deservedly so I like it's a it's 3 million more than any other receiver is getting I think he deserves it I think he's the best receiver in football the problem now for these other teams is that cidi lamb Brandon auk and Jamar Chase all think that they're the best receiver in football that's a it's a one position group that's the most intriguing in terms of there's 15 guys think they're the best of all the positions in football man which one has the most guys that think they're the absolute best don't it's close yeah yeah I don't it's yeah you're right I don't I don't think that the number of guys who think they're the best at that position probably wide receiver probably wide receiver yeah they've always it's the easiest one though too because there's the wide receiver and I think why they get so diva is sometimes is that they they rely on so many external factors for production got to have the right quarterback got to have other good receivers next to you and everything so they can always they can I don't want to call an excuse they can have an explanation for their in their mind for why their production isn't the same as Justin Jefferson's or what have you so yeah yeah so that so go once Justin Jefferson signs that deal I think yeah every GM with a uh a wide receiver that's got to get paid it's like oh crap my guy thinks he's better than him dude oh Bo and Nico Collins is probably not in that group of 12 or 15 that thinks he may think it but it doesn't he doesn't express it it well yeah he's just he's kind of different he's just he's he's got he's confident but he seems like he's got a very low-key personality in a lot of ways yeah good way to put it all right so let's start with CD lamb this was a couple days ago Mike gfo of the NFL Network gives an update on the Cowboys in CD lamb and where they're at you've seen the reported numbers that are out there about 33 I've seen higher than 33 I've seen lower than 33 my understanding is it's around 33 and for land that's still not good enough the top of the market is 35 with Justin Jefferson so he wants that to come up and the structure I am told via sour is familiar with Lamb's thinking needs to be worked on as well cash flow guaranteed how that's going to be structured on the front half of the deal so there's still a lot of work to be done here and lamb is represented by Tory Dandy an agent who knows this wide receiver Market because he helped set the wide receiver I he's got a ton of receivers that he's done deals for over the last year including AJ Brown who is right there below that tier that the Cowboys are trying to offer right now the thing about this and I think some people might be wondering like why why are people so worked up about this there's two reasons one is it it's the Dallas Cowboys so there's that drama with the Cowboys is always a big head line Grabber people writing the stories get all kinds of Click it's not just Lamb with the Cowboys too they have Prescott M it's a lot the legitimate thing is that it's not just that it's the Cowboys it's that the owner in Jerry Jones now has a long history of just letting things fester and not getting ahead of things like they knew that the cap back when the cap first expanded a lot of teams realized okay there's going to be we got to we got to reset our expectations for what these deals are going to be because there's a lot more money to go around it was one of the biggest salary cap jumps in in free agency history so there's that but the I I don't think that Cowboys fans or anybody else expects Jerry Jones to navigate his way through these three contracts with any kind of alacrity he's going to sit on this thing and let it sit and sit and it's going to take forever the same way his paternity suits do they just go on and on and on and on uh and it ends up like part of that it's hilarious because Jerry Jones is crying about like well yeah but you know and then we have to pay the quarterback and then there's only so much you can do right one of the reasons you're in the situation you're in is because the last time that you did the with the quarterback you waited to sign him so you ended up having a huge deal with him right like you've already been through this before well and you give up your leverage cuz you took out your ability to use the franchise tag on the quarterback too like there's little things like that not even Little Things that's a big thing so that's lamb and for what it's worth the latest latest update was yesterday 17 hours ago Jerry Jones they're having promising talks right now with CD lamb it sounds like they've kind of agreed to what the annual value is but like the structure of the deal is what they're kind of Heming and haing about now so but still no deal done yet and there's some of us who have fantasy drafts tonight by the way um and yet and yet the weird thing I mean the and yet the Cowboys continue to be a very competitive regular season team and they will be this year too they will be you wonder if Dak Prescott's getting to the point where I'd play it out if I were Dak well right I like does Dak Prescott just think like all right there's just something systemically wrong with this team yeah if I mean if they would just let will mlay their director of pro Personnel be the GM it would probably he's I I think he's the big reason that they're as good as they are because they draft really well um but then they've got a guy and Jerry Jones that wants to make all of that as difficult as possible like managing that really good roster yep yep um all right let's get to Brandon iuk so we got CD lamb they're in a holding pattern right now getting closer Brandon iuk how things going with him shefy I think we're at the point now where we're going to start to get a push here to see how this winds up how it's resolved and I think the 49ers would like to keep him want to keep them I still think that's the more likely scenario but to think that there's any likely scenario in this particular situation would be mistake because there was a time when I thought okay sounds like he's going to be traded to Cleveland and then there was a time where I thought well it sounds like he's going to be trade to New England and then there was a time I thought okay he's going to be traded to Pittsburgh and then I thought there was a time he's resigning with San Francisco and here we are on what is it Tuesday August 20th and nothing is still done nothing and I just think that everybody everybody is at the point where they know they need to get resolution whatever that is that was a nothing report by the way I could have given that report well I mean there were people remember the one radio host up in Pittsburgh just flat out said like no it's happening the deal's done Pony it was uh he's part of that Syracuse Mafia yeah yeah the old Syracuse the high flutin Syracuse Communications said the wide receiver is coming to Pittsburgh is what he said I I get this you know what's this starting to feel like probably for San Francisco fans this is a loose comparison but Royce White remember Royce White was kept clamoring for the the protocol the protocol all of that and the rockets were bending over backwards trying to like like yes please we know that we have issues that you need to deal with and we want to help get establish a protocol but Royce White wasn't working with him and meanwhile everywhere else outside of Houston people were paying the Rockets as the villains somehow like well they won't help him with his Proto like no they're trying like hell I feel like the 49ers are like we're we're trying to trade him we've gotten we've had offers and deals that we're ready to pull the trigger on with the Steelers and whomever else but auk just isn't going along with any of this because he won't agree to deals with those other teams that I yeah I don't know what the fan sentiment is like in San Francisco or not but I feel like auk's going to turn into a villain soon because it does it feels it keeps feeling like oh okay we're about to get this done let's be done with it and then nothing he's the one guy these three that's not going to get anywhere close to Justin Jefferson yeah the Lamb's going to get 33 million a year we're going to hear about Jamar Chase here in a second auk it's like the Steelers topped out at 28 million supposedly the Niners I don't think are going past 30 form him they got all kinds of guys they got to pay including a quarterback next year auk's got in terms of the perception of him he's got the opposite of problem of what we talked about earlier where receivers will complain about how they don't have a good Supporting Cast this that the other thing like that you're not going to claim that with the 49ers positions are perfect he whatever situation he goes to is worse honestly that's why I would look at it if and and maybe his agent has had these conversations with him it's like man if you if you want to continue to Just Produce the way you've produced you're not going to find a better situation than the San Francisco 49ers so like however much ego is wrapped up into it and everything man it's like UK's never seen the other side iuk doesn't know how most offenses operate and just how like the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence but man it's not it's not so easy it's not so easy to play good football on struggling teams no no I mean he's he is in the most efficient offensive machine in football in San Francisco all right last one Jamar Chase unlike lamb and iuk he's got two years left on his deal still and he has been he was holding in for a while and now he's just been staying away from the Bengals Jamar Chase here's the latest from Adam schfer on Jamar chase this is from the Pat McAfee show I think right now this is the one that to me Remains the most mysterious because unlike Brandon iuk and CD lamb Jamar Chase has two years left on his contract not one like those other players and we've already heard the Bengals president Mike Brown come out and say that he would prefer to wait to do this deal now I think Cincinnati still will push to get this deal done but from my understanding there hasn't been a whole lot of progress and if there's not a whole lot of progress you wonder what's next now Chad ooso the former Bengals Great Wide Receiver said over the weekend he thinks the two sides will figure out a deal this week but he also added that if the two sides can't get a deal done he does not believe that Jamar Chase will step foot on a football field again until he has a new contract and I think there are other people around the league who feel the same way about that particular situation that I think is flown a little bit under the radar chadow Chinko part of that thing is is what's strange to me like that he's like some sort of advocate for Jamar this would be like Andre Johnson getting involved in niik Collins right right right I talked to Andre Johnson and he said if Nico doesn't get a deal he probably won't be there for week one like I think and you know Chad still works out with a lot of those guys and and he's on Shannon Sharp's podcast all the time he's still out there yeah yeah he's still out there um the the Jamar Chase one is interesting because I do feel like there's something There's Something Brewing in the NFL where this concept of the hold in where Jamar Chase hasn't been practicing with the team he's not holding out he's there but he's not practicing the Bengals might be the team that actually tries to take a stand on this and because they've never been afraid to be unpopular or to do the things that players hate before and like as a former player myself like I skew towards I try to see I try to see the player side of things when it comes to hold outs and everything there's something about faking an injury or just being at practice and not practicing that rubs me the wrong way I I don't like it I don't like it at all and withholding services in the regular season but still trying to play if you know what it is if if you're going to take the fine then so be it but showing up and not getting fined because I'm here I'm available but that's the part that I wonder if the Bengals might be the first one to really push back against yeah do you think a lot of his teammates feel that way probably not his teammates no I don't or or current NFL players this is maybe the crotchy old man in me no I I yeah maybe maybe teammates too cuz I think as a player I would have felt that way like wait a second all right now you're not now you're not actually you're here and you're not getting fined you're you're trying to have your cake and eat it too yeah if you're going to take the if you're going to take your medicine and you're going to actually negotiate or whatever but I feel like you're getting away with like trying to be a hard ass but also not getting punished for it yeah you're it's like you're you're pretending to smoke cigarettes at least right just no inhaling going on boy that guy's a bad you're coughing behind jamar's not even inhaling I can tell uh all right pain and Pendergast into the 9:00 hour we go man a lot of flowers out there for the Texans this one I'm got to put through a filter though um but I think this will 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Rams tomorrow yes so have one practice against the Rams Friday is an off day and then and then it'll be all roads ones versus ones probably not on the Ram side do you think the Texans are going to play their ones I'd like to see the offensive line out there okay no CJ yeah I don't need to see CJ I need to see CJ I want to see them run block uh I feel good about the pass blocking I want to see them run block and actually uh know who they're supposed to be run blocking I think the interesting thing not just the offensive line actually I want everybody because it was it was the fullbacks it was the tight ends it was the wide receivers there were a lot of misassignments in that game and I'd like to see just some a little bit of clarity in the Run game I wonder if Davis plays Davis Mills Davis Mills Yeah well yeah do they want him to even just to get a few extra reps CU because he said he didn't play last week but he had an he was he didn't practice either he had an injury ribs yeah um but even the way Nick was talking about him like yeah Davis he's our backup he wouldn't have played much anyways right so is it hey case you get the first half and Tim Bole you get the second half yeah and may the best man that's also actually they do need to get Tim Bo some reps just in terms of uh there is something you want to be a team where when guys go there and you're a fringe guy that you get an opportunity to play cuz for all these guys and what what the veteran players are telling the younger players and the coaches are saying this right now too is like listen you're not just competing for a roster spot on this team you're competing for a roster spot on 32 different teams this every everybody's watching this film they're going to see some guys that maybe they had a good scouting report on and they liked that if you hit waivers you're going to get picked up somewhere else so likewise with your backup quarterbacks I think they almost owe it to Tim Bole to get him a bunch of reps give him a chance to yeah In Case Keenum I don't I I like they don't I mean case is what he is you know like they know that he knows the offense they know that he's physically not the same guy he used to be and there's no reason to subject him to injury I'm with you except that cerio said in that pregame interview on Saturday like Davis isn't going to play He's our backup he's not going anywhere so now it's about I'm paraphrasing but now it's about finding out who our third string guy is yeah okay so there's that competition element to it but I and I think maybe that maybe okay maybe they do want to see exactly what I think case is going to be the third I think that case playing as much he did as he did was more about being sure that the young receivers uh had a chance to go with somebody that's that's going to have put the ball in the right place y that makes sense uh Diana Rini the athletic the scoop podcast formerly of SPN she's been making the rounds to a bunch of training camps including the Houston Texans uh she's been to a bunch of them she's still going to a bunch of them she and Chase Daniel former NFL quarterback had been traveling around and she was on The Dan Patrick Show yesterday and Dan Patrick and his uh his crew there they actually asked her like what are some training camps you've been to where you've been a little surprised how how bad the team is been she named the Browns well the question was the where you had a bad feeling about it like it was just like oh man things aren't right she named the Browns and she did point out that it seemed to be a particularly bad day like a notably bad day for the offense and that it hasn't always been like that but on the day she was there it felt that was how she reported it well and that was that Browns Vikings day where there were people from beat writers from both sides talking about boy either these offenses stink or these are the two greatest defenses in the NFL right now so she was there for that so they asked her about that about like the negative she herself unprompted said I wish you'd ask me which camp s may have surprised me the other direction from a positive where I said wow the question I I would have preferred was what's the camp I went to where I went oh wow and that was the Houston Texans holy cow I know I knew they were good when I showed up I left like and look I went on a day that everyone told me CJ was unbelievable um but I just was watching going who is going so you're all in they're a Super Bowl Contender I am all in on the Houston Texans just based on what they're building yeah she's all in man she's all in on the enthusiasm she's all in on Bo Knicks too so so take everything with a grain of salt how do we how do you take a report about uh players being enthusiastic in terms of all right this is actually something substantive I do think that there's definitely a different vibe around deo's Camp than there was around Bill you're talking about the players all cheering for each other and stuff we haven't played that yet let's play that let's play that one she's Allin on the Texans and this is a little thing that she saw that made her even more Allin on the Texans okay something even simple and small this is tiny but this is important and it's been told to me by many people it's important in the big grand scheme of things when they make good plays during the preseason when guys are scoring touchdowns backups players that we may never even that see again in in the NFL the way the sideline the way the starters are running down into to the end zone and showing that support cuz what that is that's culture right that's Theo Ryan that's him saying we are going to be there for everybody on this team not just the superstars yeah um I think that I take it with a grain of salt that it's yeah it's really cool there's a fun environment there I mean that and they they do like really seem to enjoy playing football and competing Deo does a good job of keeping it loose but still disciplined but it's one of those things that man if if it doesn't come with wins who gives a damn because there's also there's other teams that are much more methodical and business-like in their approach and it works for them so it's not like that's the otherwise everybody would be doing right right I think that's just I think it's naturally going to be Demo's culture that that's how those teams are going to practice or his teams are going to practice so I like it from that regard uh but I don't necessarily look at that as the reason that oh yeah this team's different no and and and and you know Diana Rini said it's a small thing but you're right um and at least it's authentic I you know it's funny for as many people as are just like just Bonkers about the Texans right now it's very hard to find people that predict number of wins for the Texans right that are going more than 10 wins for the Texans it's interesting I think they love talking about CJ stra and the Stefon digs Dynamic and everything else like that but when they lot of N9 and eight and 10 and seven what's their Vegas win total 9 and a and a right yeah so the computers etc etc that's where they project them I think that it's hard when you look at you look at strength of schedule and the Texans have one of the harder schedules in the season on paper right now it's by the Vegas odds they've got the sixth toughest schedule when you go like looking at adding up the win projections yeah so which is more accurate than using last year's record that's an objective way of looking at it at least is that you're it's still a Futures bet in that you're looking at these offseason additions and thinking like oh wow yeah look they look like a much better team on paper but the free agency in the NFL and I include Stefan Diggs and Joe Mixon in the free agency category they were trades but whatever um it's dicey you know it doesn't always work out so I think there's still skepticism over that I tend to be and I'm close to the situ I'm too close to the situation I tend to be pretty optimistic about most of those Acquisitions but I think the big thing is when you look get strength of schedule you always know all right this always changes and a lot of the teams that are good on your schedule aren't going to end up being good when I look at the teams that are good on the Texans schedule it's hard for me to come up with a lot of reasons for why they're going to disappoint that's where I'm stuck right now is that it's it's not as simple as oh well they had a good year last year or whatever the the only team I really that jumps out at me is that the bills I think the bills are facing more obstacles I think than maybe they themselves even realized because they had to let go of some good free agents they had no money to bring new free agents in and they lost Stefon Diggs which is easier to gloss over because it's it's tempting to think well he wasn't that productive no he was a very big part of the production of the offense when they switched things around the threat of Stefon Diggs was still having an effect on that offense I don't I like that's the but that's the only team where I can really pin it on anything one specific after that it becomes like well I guess the Dolphins didn't look good in the playoffs versus the Chiefs but they I don't think that Tyreek you know Jaylen wad are still not going to be really good for two Tonga v i I think there's a better chance because I tried to go through that exercise last week with hopes that I would find a bunch of Buffalo Bills on there you know that a bunch of teams on there that oh yeah they were 11 and six but that's more like a nine and8 team this year so is the schedule really this hard and this the scary thing is I think there's more teams on the schedule for the Texans that you could make a case are better than their record last year than are worse than I think the Colts if if Anthony Richardson is healthy and yeah that's a big X Factor big X Factor you know the Jacksonville Jaguars you know and and some those two teams will cannibalize themselves a little bit because they play each other twice or whatever but uh I think the Bears you know like hey what if Caleb Williams has a rookie year like CJ strad because they've added a lot to that team outside of just Caleb Williams you know like they've got receivers and they signed it they signed running backs I'll give you the the good thing about the Bears is that reportedly Keenan Allen is fat I heard that too slow they hadn't done much in camp at all uh and just so the everybody's electrified as they were Keenan Allen getting there it doesn't look like it's necessarily so hot right now my my son you were on the group text me me you and my two sons are on a group text together and my son slapped Kelvin Benjamin on yeah that was a good pull James I forgotten about Kelvin Benjamin Saga where he looked like a defensive lineman dude those last couple years he he was heavy so I think that like I just and I don't have the schedule in front of me Seth but just like as far as teams that I think could be better than their records like I think obviously the Jets of Aaron Rogers is healthy they're they're G they should be improved I think the Packers you know the Packers they were nine and eight last year I know I know but I feel like they're in that same they're right in the same category of darling team and I'm just still I like I think Jordan love has a lot of potential I'm not sold that him not like coming back to Earth a little bit this year right he's not as consistent he makes some jamus Winston type plays in dicey situations so I think that you I could easily see them falling back I hope you're right I hope you're right um getting a lot of texts on the Damen Pierce topic we did a segment or two ago the other big x- factor is the Jets too yeah yeah that's what I just said yeah you say the I apologize that's okay um yeah yeah like Von Rogers is healthy that's not a s and 10 football team probably right yeah um does does uh does Damen Pierce get the Kenyan green treatment Chuck in Denver where they just sit him for a year I don't know I yeah that's all the question says must be what that is they like okay just go ahead and call it a call it a season fix yourself go fix yourself kenyon's issues were medical though and he had issues with his play obviously as well but he was it was a long chain of injuries and felt like he just couldn't get right yeah like Dam me and honestly if his body weight is the issue uh look I I don't care if he gains some body fat as he gains the weight back he could probably bounce back to whatever his rookie year playing weight was pretty quickly without being unhealthy about it it you know we might be talking about 10 or 15 pounds but I I would feel like it shouldn't be a last ditch effort or looked at it that way it's go back to when he was really impressive and do those same things one of the big things was he was playing at a different body weight so I think that it's very very clear now that whether the blocking is good or bad On Any Given play he is not breaking tackles and he wasn't last year he slimmed down last year and it's great if his feet are a little bit faster or something his foot speed was fine for what he was doing two years ago I don't need him to have I don't need him to be anatomically any different than he was when he was breaking tackles left and right and he was a machine y his weight class is there's some people that are some people can go down and box at a lighter weight some guys need to be right where they are that's he was right at his perfect weight class when he was uh when he was in his rookie year he was he was uh people saying Texans no Damian's a problem otherwise they wouldn't have signed cam Acres um I don't know I mean we're talking it's a 90 man roster right now you know like and cam Acres wasn't like a big signing at all it was minimum salary yeah the cam Acres one wasn't that's I I think that they see upside in cam acres and they wanted to see what what exactly it was like That's a classic get him in the building yeah you know that all right this is intriguing he's coming off of a second Achilles we can get him super cheap but he did have he had that same speed and explosiveness after his first one he just wasn't tying it in as a running back yeah so he was he just he's averaged since that first Achilles tenant tear I want to say his average is 3.1 yards per attempt it was a little bit better in Minnesota than that like 3.4 yards per attempt but he's looked on his good plays he's looked very electrically athletic he's been better than you and I expected I think right Acres I thought you gonna say better than you and I athletically I'm like oh yeah yeah for sure for sure probably like three days after his surgery he was given the way he uh given the way he re responds and bounces back cam Acres not a future depends model yeah so I don't I don't think that was as much driven by Damen Pierce specifically as much as just the competition of running back he was out there you know like it's I I I could very well see the Texans envisioning a backfield room that has Joe Mixon Damen Pierce and C acres in there you know um text message can you imagine Arian Foster in his prime in this offense with the with the Zone running scheme it would be virtually Unstoppable not with this blocking right yeah they're just not on the same page the way that offensive line right right would be that's disrespectful to that offensive line right right right yeah 2012 it was funny I've showed you before sometimes when I'll go and I'll take a a play from 2011 an outside Zone run and play that for you and then you watch one from the last couple years and just watch the offensive lineman where they that that 2011 Texans team they're all their footwork was all in Unis Unison it was just like it looked like choreography you know where Texans it's a little bit more like the current Texans yeah it's me out there in the chaa yeah yeah you're you're like Steve Martin in The Jerk I'm just no rhythm yeah I'm Titus Howard yeah go watch the jerk you can probably see it on YouTube it's the dumbest movie ever but it's a it's a good one it's very funny it's very funny I I can see the Lions as being one of the teams that the back back backslides a little bit not 100% convinced that the defense is uh built for business all the time yeah I could see that and it is after all Jared Goff it is Jared Goff as well I think yeah and they're and and I and they're playing a first place schedule now too which is the first time they've done that so their three variable games are are good teams they're going to play the ners again they're going to play uh you know the Cowboys and whoever else Texans Texans play them November 10th so we'll know who the lions are Sunday Night Football that's my favorite game on the schedule this year Sunday night football against the Lions is going to be crazy that's a low-key part of that stretch of uh or you know there's the there's the Marquee stretch during Christmas time when it's Chiefs and Ravens and DOL well Dolphins Chiefs Ravens um but I kind of like the two- we stretch of facing the Lions and then the Cowboys well and the the the Jets the week before that on Thursday Night Football that's the stretch that'll decide the season right there weeks 9 10 and 11 that that's is I I'll explain it in the next segment yeah we got we got to get to that also Seth is advocating for something that the NFL is currently trying to do he's advocating for something that I have a huge issue with got a very very world classic of baseball feel to This World Baseball Classic World football classic yeah so we'll get to that coming up next but first West Point Lincoln is Sugarland pick your APR on a 2024 Lincoln Navigator zero [Music] [Music] oh [Music] know [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast it's one of the well it's a simple joys in life indeed there one if you can learn to enjoy the simple joys in life Sean you'll be rich always always that's where the like the the things that the most genuinely enjoyable things in life tend to have no price tag a walk in the park a good poop all those things all those things all sources of you enjoy them just as much when you're uh like monetarily rich as when you're poor you can be bankrupt you can be independently wealthy yes God does not discriminate how those other things feel I'm taking a philosophy class on my imprint app remember I took interpersonal Dynamics and you know how better much better I am interpersonally now you are um yeah but uh now I'm taking this philosophy class and it's hard because the whole time I'm like oh just it reads it reads like motivational Tik Tock I'm like your favor it's the same lessons and everything but you're like oh sure it sure does sound a lot better when David Hume says it then when uh like bro at the gym says it on Tik Tok yeah it's the same thing the transcripts are the same um okay so apparently the NFL is really really really trying to get some of their players uhuh involved in 2028 flag football it's going to be a sport it's going to be a sport in the 2028 Olympics right yeah I saw this and I thought of two things immediately Sean you I thought of Tyreek Hill uh you know kind of Tyreek Hill is definitely going to want to be in this because he you know already has a grudge match with one of the fastest men in the world oh that's true you know he just like to prove that uh I feel like he's gonna I I feel like he's going to have to do it because if he's not on the team whoever wins it he's going to be talking all kinds of smack about how much better he is than them but then I thought of you because this feels a whole lot like the World Baseball Classic yes happens in July it's the world football classic and a guy like tank Dell specifically why are you doing this because Size Doesn't Matter as much at all doesn't matter at all all that matters is what getting open that's where I'm honestly I'm kind of like I kind of don't want the NFL to get NFL players involved in this because frankly I don't know how good they'll actually be at it compared to and those Sports look you've got a this is not some sport that it's like there's a really small pool of players playing it or something there are a lot of really good athletes that may have played college football at a lower level but they only weighed 140 lbs or what have you they are super lightning fast like guys that are tank ell but lighter so they didn't have a chance to go to the next level and frankly I think they're probably better at it than than Jamar Chase or somebody like that yeah dude but tank Dell in in all seriousness yes I would be nervous you know me I I am the person who says I don't want yordon Alvarez doing anything but raking for the Astros that's it like playing Left Field sliding into bases he's got permission for me to walk the bases that's all like I like that's yon and tank similarly I don't need tank doing anything except catching passes for the Houston Texans now that being said you I I feel like he is tailor made he's one of the guys that I think yeah he's not in the category you're talking about with NL players like he would be he would kill people he's the well and I think the the advantage the NFL athletes would have is a lot of it because this the body weight's a disadvantage you know right so one of the things that's a requirement that a lot of the guys that are really good at flag football they just the body weight is what was keeping the out of the NFL likewise the guys in the NFL their body weight is a hindrance it's like it's like being bulked up and going to run a 10K or something you know it's it's a hindrance but they do they're working at Route running and covering receivers as their job 365 days a year so there is a skill set there where it just might be and and that's where tank especially where I think he's just as fast as a lot of the 140 PB guys but he also has pristine route running that's been honed by daily competition here's the question would you want CJ strad playing in this in 2028 yeah quarterback for sure I think I would too I I I'm I'm I'm leaning into the the I'm kind of leaning into the te's here a little bit I think it'd be really fun to see CJ and tank in the flag now I guess I have a question about the rules I have no idea does the do you have to play both ways cuz does the quarterback play I that's the case and I don't want it yeah remember well even in playing defense it's not he's not like he's going to be taking a bunch of collisions but it's a lot of running and starting and stopping and doing stuff guess the roster isn't just seven guys you know what I mean right but there's platooning rules sometimes like in rugby there's 15 guys and like like rugby you can't you're not you're not allowed to substitute in rugby that's why when football players always think like oh yeah let's stick a bunch of football players out there there'll be a lot like no football players when when they first start playing rugby um after like 3 minutes they're looking to the sidelines to be like Hey where's uh where's my substitute what you're tapping their heads like w well what's going on here like it's not so simple there's a lot of it's endurance based there much more so than football someone says how do y'all not immediately think Lamar Jackson I think Lamar would be good I would want my quarterback to be able to I would need my quarterback to be a better passer than Lamar JS I to be more yeah seven on seven your quarterback's just back there piecing you know what I mean and that's not Lamar now Lamar and I don't know what the rules are of quarterbacks being allowed to run in seven on seven I'm I'm very seven on seven ignorant as far as what the rules are for that I always just the highlights that I see are always just quarterbacks just dropping back and just finding guys but a guy that can run I guess the differen is this is what I would say with Lamar one of Lamar's advantages in running against the defense is that he's a much better athlete than seven of the guys on the field um but not as much a better athlete than the four defensive backs so in flag football I think somebody correct me if I'm wrong you don't have as much of an advantage as a as a running quarterback in flag football as you I mean it's good it's if you can do it and everything it's just that it's not as outsized an advantage things like ball placement and accuracy and all that are so I think like I think guys like CJ stoud would probably be better but I might be wrong on that CJ would be fun to watch in that environment man especially as a representative of the United States of America cuz there's nothing more American than CJ strad we're about to get an education on the text line from people that actually know flag football that's cool we have to educate ourselves no I'm here for it I that's fine I I'm I'm admitting to being somewhat uninformed about the format I can remember going when I was a player in the NFL I remember going watching some flag football like some of the competitive stuff yeah and being like like in person and totally seeing like yeah that dude if he were just 30 lounds heavier that's as fast is like the the guys in the NFL for sure and that's what makes it interesting internationally I guess because someone points this out on the text Page uh 7330 it's like the three on three in the Olympics in basketball how many NBA guys do that none of the NBA the the star of our three on three team was Jimmer fredet remember old Jimmer fet from back in the day I think from BYU um we stunk at three on three we like we were one of the worst three on three teams in the United States in the entire Olympics we stucked at it and it's not even like you think about just yeah in actually grabbing the flag and everything that's refs man yeah to be just to be able to actually grab the flag that's a lot of hand eye coordination everything I'm imagining the guys that play flag football all year long are much better than that than guys that are just doing it for to try to get ready for the Olympics you know what I'm here for it put tank in the one yeah I'm put tank in there tank and CJ as long as CJ doesn't have to play safety or something I'll teach him my old uh gym class flag football trick of tying a knot in your flag so they can't just tie it in a knot on the belt so they can't FL I bet nobody's thought of that before way man yeah now you're giving away Trade Secrets here on the radio we I didn't do that my friend Aaron lefave did that cheater yeah did farer do it far no farer okay that's my guy yeah um yeah it's like giving away the guy I gave away my trade secrets on parking spots for the Astros game last week um the guy texted yesterday he's like dude great cheat code on the parking for the Astros I'll give it again since there's an afternoon game today uh all the lot along Preston yeah Preston is the street that leads if you drove down Preston towards the stadium and just kept driving you would drive right through the glass in center field and probably run over Vanessa Richardson and Brian bogusevich today yeah that pain a picture yeah yeah that's don't do that I'm just saying I'm I'm painting a picture of which street it is um but uh there's parking lots all along that street and there like you can reasonably priced you can get within three or four blocks of the stadium for for 15 or 20 bucks that's big these days huge man I walked to Chipotle the other day usually it's no big deal the one near the station yeah yeah like I'll go down there if I'm here late I'll just go and you know get a Chipotle dinner how bad were you sweating it was all it's usually never like and I don't like the heat but usually it's a short enough walk that I can re I can feel that the I can feel that I'm on the precipice right about the time I get to the air conditioning this one it was like I didn't even get a I didn't even cross the damn intersection before I was sweating already yeah it's hot out you guys notice it's hot out it's hot out it was my my truck said 93 when I got in it this morning 93° crazy I mean I don't think that was accurate given the sun was down and everything but I don't know it might have been man it's been it's been hot yeah it's been really hot um reminding me we're going out to practice in 24 minutes um CJ played flag football at the Pro Bowl that's right they did a seven on seven at the Pro Bowl and CJ threw a dime that's right Jamar Chase Jamar Chase yeah he was recruiting Stefon Diggs he was throwing di that when Jamar first thought like you know what I think I am worth more than uh yeah I yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hold in this and then he's like you know what it would be really cool to play for the Texans and then overwalk Stefon digs just shoved him with two hands said I'm playing for the Texans did we any did we get any clarification on any of the definely wrong things we said about the QB only can Rush when they are blitzed oh okay Lamar Jackson's in there you're just not blitzing we're not blitzing yeah making play coverage seven on seven they get an automatic free rusher QB has to run throw on the Run Kyler Murray would be good Shan says oh okay that Kyler would be good at that yeah that's Kyler finally becomes the American hero that we all knew he would be and that his agent and that his agent okay wait but people are given seven on seven rules but like what about I know people know seven on seven with flag football is we're not talking about seven out seven we're but I think that I think they're one and the same are they not no they're not I don't think so okay 7 on Seven's a drill you do in football like I like there's just a there's a whole different set of rules and everything yeah but they play seven there's like seven on seven leagues down here in Texas right right but this is flag football but I think they but seven on seven is just FL flag football is just seven on seven but with flags with flags I'm pretty sure yeah I'm pretty sure like I don't think there's blockers I these Olympic sports though they always add extra rules to stuff all right text in text in uh SE uh 7135 724 610 all right um two a killed Brian Flores how did Brian Flores do former coach of the Dolphins current DC of the Vikings how did he do in responding to TU a Tong of vioa literally saying he's a terrible person and we'll get you ready for Justin Verlander today big big day for the Houston Astros that we will get to coming up next men's tea Clinic German I 10 [Music] woo [Music] [Applause] [Music] n [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] d d [Music] [Music] the [Music] [Music] it's e [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] more Spirit Ry whiskey live from the Twin Peak Studios Sports Radio 610 presents pay and Pendergast man I'm still now we've heard from both sides Tua and Brian Flores and um I guess like if we're tying it to the Texans like Brian Flores was really close to becoming the head coach of the Houston Texans before they hired Lovey Smith and then subsequently wound up with Deo Ryan and now we are in this era of football Bliss here with the Houston Texans who knows what would have happened who knows what the fork in the road would have looked like if Brian Flores became the head coach of the Houston Texans he's embroiled right now in a little soap oper with his former quarterback Tu a tonga vioa they've got the first take is in is on the TV in our studio here and they're talking about it and the caption at the top says two a tells all yeah like a two-minute clip on The Dan lebatard show like it's some expose on who Brian Flores was and we all knew those two didn't get along that Brian Flores can be a little bichan and things like that yeah um but here was Tua just to reset because we're going to hear from Flores in a second so we'll kind of do our scorecard on this thing uh here's Tua on The Dan lebatard show describing what his experience was like with Brian Flores as his head coach in 2020 and 2021 to put it in simplest terms if you woke up every morning and I told you you suck at what you did that you don't belong doing what you do that you shouldn't be here that this guy should be here that you haven't earned this right and then you have somebody else come in and tell you dude you are the best fit for this like you are accurate you are the best whatever you are this you are that like how would it make you feel listening to one or the other you see what I'm saying and then you hear it you hear it regardless of what it is the good or the bad and you hear it more and more you start to actually believe that I don't care who you are you you could be the president of the United States you have a terrible person that's telling you things that you you don't want to hear or that that you probably shouldn't be hearing you're going to start to believe that about yourself and so that's sort of like what what ended up happening and it was I mean it's basically been what two years of training that out of not just me but you know a couple of the guys as well that have been here since my rookie year all now we'll uh we we'll play Flores here in a second Flores was I thought pretty contrite about the whole thing you you'll hear from him in a second I do wonder the part the two words that have gotten the most run from Tua in all this are terrible person you have this terrible person that's saying such and such I I do wonder if Tua gets a chance to walk it back if he walks that part back because it's not he didn't say Brian Flores is a terrible person I think he was making an illustration there yeah and probably just sort of doing like colloquially saying you know like I think he man antagonist probably more than terrible person like I I don't know if Brian Flores is a good person or a bad person um if if I had to guess if Tua gets a chance to expound upon it or walk anything back that maybe that maybe that'll be it maybe he you know maybe you know we didn't get along he wasn't a great coach for Me Maybe terrible person was a little much that part clearly impacted uh Brian Flores Ben let's skip to Flores 2 here real quick and then we'll get your take on this Seth but but here's Flores responding he said he wishes two of the best we'll we'll play that in a bit but this is him being asked about two of calling him a terrible person that hit me in a way that you know wasn't I wouldn't say was you know positive for me um but at the same time I you know I've got to use that and say hey how can I how can I grow from that you know how can I be better um and that's really um that's really where I'm at from from that standpoint um do I feel like you know that it's me no but you know how can I grow from that situation and create a create a world where that's not you know the case that anyone says that about about Brian Flores yeah I look this is um for one I've only heard tua's side of what was allegedly said and he didn't even say it with any specificity I just know that man whenever a message is delivered you could give the same message to 10 different people and those 10 people are going to hear 10 different messages and some they're all going to see it through their own filters and I I just wonder how much tua's sensitivity to being coach like that may have factored into it and to the point where Tua thinks that Brian Flores is a terrible person I don't recall hearing other people say that Brian Flores is a terrible person no um and like I and honestly like Tua couldn't have used the worse analogy than the US president because walk that politicians have a very specific profile of they are those types of dudes that like almost nothing can destroy their confidence they have a great capacity for hearing negativity and not having it affect them all that much their very job you're the you could be one of the most popular Presidents in history and you're still despised by nearly half of the the population at any given time y so it's um I think that there two things can be true that Brian Flores was probably should have done a better job of reading the room when it comes to dealing with his quarterback into a tongue of AOA but also Ina being the only quarterback I can ever recall that sounded this emotionally hurt by a coach who was an a-hole um that maybe two like twoa was Dua has a sensitive side to him that most really good quarterbacks don't most real most really good quarterbacks are like presidents you know like they can kind of they can handle a whole lot of the pressure the scrutiny that's why I never worry about like hurting a young quarterback's confidence by putting him in a competition like nah if he's the right guy it's not going to affect his confidence yeah so um and I just like I can't like I've lived life long enough to know that when I hear one person's side of a story I don't take it at face value even if I really like that person yeah the the what's said behind closed doors you just never know exactly what was said look from a Content standpoint I'm thrilled to has said what he said it's given us a few segments and it's an inter topic I just don't know like if I were in two's Inner Circle would I have told him to go light up ran Flores on a podcast like you dude you just signed a $212 million deal you won the war there's no like there's there's you know you look a little petty if you know you look a little petty uh which we can get at times I I can be Petty at times but I to a I think Tu is sensitive and I think I think the I think the journey to arrive at that contract exposed some of his Sensi he was the one guy out of all these quarterbacks that was openly talking about how it was affecting his psyche not having the contract done like I I would be like I I don't know man like how the big thing is like how do you feel if you're a dolphins fan today are you like yeah to a get him or you are you like I'm like yeah kind of felt like he was on Oprah you know I feel like if Oprah had gotten it out of him I would get it but it was Dan levard like yeah you should have been power ranking uh brands of socks at that point in the interview or something like wait a second you're going to open up like this to Dan levard best breakfast tacos in Miami I like Dan levar's interviews and everything I like the way he operates but like this is not Oprah come on yeah that was a lot so uh yeah I think Florida is honestly there it is and it's kind of falling by the wayside as a as a person I prefer coaches and teachers and anybody else that can kind of cut out a lot of the extraneous BS when it comes to trying to act like a tough guy and all that but because I grew up with nothing but WN to be Old School coaches or genuinely Old School coaches where it's just it's a brutal environment you know um and both both tactics work and the parcel's tree it's brutal man like those coaches are just constantly they want to turn the screws all the time Tom coffin used to tell us no pressure no diamonds no pressure no diamonds like they wanted to put you in a boiler and that's life and it and it creates results you know there's other ways to do it too and it doesn't mean one's necessarily better than the other it's a lot more fun to go through life with like the Mike McDaniel way I think clearly he also got destroyed in the playoffs last year so we don't you know um yeah that's a great Point there's no it's not proven that that's working in Miami right racking up a lot of yards right that's fun I mean there's a whole lot of there's a whole lot of misery in highlevel performance sometimes and different people do it differently and I think there are a lot of people that can function and thrive in an environment like a Brian Flores environment or a bill bich environment or whatnot but then there's others that just kind of it's not for them just a different culture as you pointed out those Miami Dolphins teams under Brian Flores exceeded expectations they won football games despite they over they outplayed their roster yeah Flores was not a trash coach let's remember flores's lawsuit one of the contentions was that the owner was trying to actively encourage him to lose and Flores was saying Hell no so without getting into the actual lawsuit itself or whatever there was like there were there were it was just kind of it points to the fact that he did overperform there um despite obviously not having a great relationship with Tua yeah yeah he was 5 and 11 his first year there and that was the year where they were that was the year they upset the that was 2019 that was the year they upset the Patriots in week 17 as like a two and a half touchdown Underdog like 17 20p point Underdog and they knocked the Patriots out of getting a Buy in the first round of the playoffs that year cuz Flores was trying and I think you could you could look at that now and go man it was like maybe some of the roots from that 511 season where they're trying where why they were 10 and six and n and eight next he was really mean to me and then also he didn't trade for Tyreek Hill and I noticed that when Mike McDaniel started being positive that the they also traded for Tyreek Hill and that was a big difference that's a great point I had even thought about that like yeah Brian Flor has never got a bite at the apple with Tyreek Hill on the team yeah that's a that's a really good point um text message Tua is soft text message Tua sucks bottom line text message Pacific Islander should take away tu's Pacific Islander card you is it wasn't to his dad like a real hard ass yeah I think so I thought that was always the story like his dad was tough on him I guess sometimes that scars a kid man maybe that's what it is he's having like PTSD when his coach is coming in there think back to his dad's his days with his dad um here's Joe aspat shifting gears quickly before we get to the guys on in the loop here top of the hour they'll take over um Joe asata talking last night about Justin Verlander starting this afternoon coming back from a neck injury yeah I think it will help him and I think it will help the you know the entire staff bill can use that extra day so having JV back that's that's also um very important to just to have him back because he can we could stretch it out a little bit and give those guys an extra extra day the journey back to a six-man rotation like we haven't even talked about that like a we're here yeah it's been a long road back there were at a time this was a team with a four-man rotation and a bunch of Bullpen guys it doesn't you know there have been a lot of times in recent Astros history where we were like ringing our hands over the fact that the Astros have too many good pitchers like well what are we going to do we've got seven starting pitchers what the hell's going on uh where now it's h it's like oh okay yeah thank God we've got a six-man rotation because I I don't know if you've paid attention this year or not Sean there's a chance that even one of these guys might get injured so there's pitchers do get injured everybody don't don't let the recent stretch of awesome luck oh if it's like in which one of your two pitchers you hoping to come back this year is definitely not coming back in Luis Garcia yeah if it's like the rest of this year it'll happen in the next two days did we even address the fact that Luis Garcia is not coming back I think we mentioned it as a news item yesterday but that's where it's got that's how callous we've gotten to all of this I was very optimistic about Luis Garcia's return uh not too long ago and I felt like that last setback was like well whatever it's Luis Garcia everything's going to be fine yeah it's just I've gotten so numb to the pain of losing of losing starting pitchers that I kind of once I realized like oh okay spot said he feels good that's theow theoretically there could be a lot of bodies in spring training next year that we're not part of we got nine starting pictures what the hell are we going to do you know what though actually when you start to factor in okay the pipeline is the pipeline but when it comes to trade assets or trade ammunition yeah they've got lot of starting pit on the roster that's a good point um let's go out to Twin Peaks I 10 and Kirkwood that's where in the loop is I wondering where these guys were I for to walk they ever gonna show up yeah John Lopez Reginald atat Tula fellas how we doing doing all right fellas how about y'all we're good man we're good which Twin Peaks are you at this is they're at the kirwood I 10 and Kirkwood yep yep so uh so you're going to be out there while a little stros game is going on that'll be kind of funb baby yeah yeah yeah um hey do you guys have have you taken a in the TU of versus Brian Flores thing yeah I was listening to you guys uh and man it's amazing how all of a sudden there seems to be a shift toward Brian Flores uh and and I just think it's as simple as I don't think Tua respects Flores you know and so anything he says that berating him and demeaning him he's like dude you don't know what you're talking about yeah you know what about you Reggie uh I think I might exist on Tu Tong OFA side here funny enough although don't think that Brian Flores was done particularly well in Miami but uh there was I'm sure you guys heard the audio of him uh yesterday talking about this answering questions yeah we played it yep he didn't he didn't like roundly deny that he was out here uh being kind of a jerk to that man and so yeah like I I I took that to me yeah man you were probably getting after that dude and the way that tul was talking about this it seemed like uh there was a little bit of like personal animus not just to two but to a few dudes and I thought that that that took it to a place where I was like yeah I don't really love that yeah I guess I'm also the where like listen man whenever I hear one person's side of a conversation I just I've I've lived life long enough that I'm like oh well that's their side of the conversation I feel like there's uh there's plenty of NFL quarterbacks who have played for coaches who are a-holes who didn't need to feel go all Oprah on Dan levard about it so that kind of the I got to look through it that filter through that filter of like yeah maybe Flores was a jerk but also like all right Tua get over it I things happen yeah well we also have uh like and and usually it's a coach cuz I fell in that category even in high school a coach that was really hard on you and you end up respecting and loving that guy and still being in contact with him 40 years later which is the case in me but there's then there's guys that are just a-holes and it's like it's your read on what the person is is how I feel or they didn't make you better you know like that guy probably made you better Tua didn't respond to there's probably plenty of guys Flores as coach with that style has made them better football players not everybody Cut From the Same Cloth yeah a lot of these Vikings dudes out here right now seem to Rally around him they're standing up there on the deis with him I might be I might be just like uh inclined naturally against what is like just uh the I don't know historic kind of view of football and like the you know machis machismo that's in there and everything and so I'm like oh yeah fight back against it but you know it might be very particular here that maybe Tu is just being a little soft about it all right gentlemen we're going to let you hash this out long 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looking at a Texas team that has been kind of incredible for us for us I mean just like the different place that this team is now compared to like the last what four or five years yeah um is kind of incredible and with that you were asking this question I think it's a really good one what is the most unbelievable thing about where we stand with these Texans right now you can always get involved with the program by texting in to the text line at 713- 572 4610 look man uh it truly is it truly is unbelievable what what this team when you think about a year ago even but more specifically like two years ago a year and a half what you thought of this team and more importantly what this team felt like uh you know in terms of from a Nationals perspective and I mean this team didn't get any respect no like like zero like zero respect and I'm looking up at some of the things that people and we're saying it and other people around the country are saying it and it's like oh the Texans and we're going to hear some of this stuff over the course of the show uh you know people talking about how the Texans and uh I was watching one thing and not only can can CJ strad win a Super Bowl I think it was uh I forget who it was but uh they can win a Super Bowl this year and and there's variations of that everywhere so I'm like what is the most unbelievable thing not just the fact that they are look at completely 180 differently like they are looked at like a veteran team that has been there and already done that you know and that's weird they haven't been there and they haven't done that sure but they're being treated like that and so I think that's that's where I'm going to land but there's a bunch of answers you know that that you could give and maybe you have a different one 713 572 4610 but to me they are a polished mature team and those are two words that I've never used with the Houston Texans there's been hope there's been years there's been anticipation and all that but they are a polished mature team it's like we're we're talking about maybe not the Chiefs they're in their own category but like the Ravens like like they've been around forever they're they're they're you know Personnel staff is topnotch you respect all the decisions they make their coaches like their coaches regarded as like oh well they're going to be well coached you know like their quarterback is oh all he needs to do is take the next step like it's like when did the Texans become the Ravens and and and the answer is this year right and it's unbelievable yeah it is incredible like I'm glad that you took it to the place where it's organizationally right it's not even just the team and we could talk about the players on the field that level of this but there's a level of respect in what's happening starting with like guess the most forward- facing of the people on the staff which is demo Ryan I don't know that I mean anywhere around like the National Football landscape that anybody has negative things to say about him and it's not just that like there is a a widespread trust in his decision making in the way that he goes about things like people treat him not like a second-year head coach right they treat him like a dude who has done this for a while whose decisions are to be respected in a similar way like you're talking about if we're going to use uh the Ravens as to me that's like the example when did they become the Ravens right John Harbaugh is a dude who when he makes decisions and sometimes he'll make spicy decisions right sometimes he'll he'll go with the analytics in a way that's kind of odd and sometimes he'll and it's not always consistent or what have you but by and large uh the smartest people in sports look around and they go no that's a good coach and he knows what he's doing Deo Ryan has given that level of Grace pretty widely already yeah like even in their own division when when John Harbaugh makes a decision people in the division are like uhoh I don't know if that's going to be good but I bet you it is you know because you have that respect you know they draft somebody where you're like like a Kamari Lasser something of a surprise right yeah and people in the had the Ravens done that people in their division would be going uhoh what do they know that we don't right well we're finding out that you know demo Ryans and Nick Caserio do know something that others don't because Kamar lassard is probably going to be a starting quarterback you know so it's it's like it's unbelievable how far this team has come and you know the most unbelievable thing to me is I don't feel like we're setting ourselves up for disappointment yeah yeah like that there's definitely places around this league where something is done that you know ESS sensibly is a good move and people go yeah we wait till it fails and you look there's places where if you wanted to have that that particular negativity about things you possibly could right like free agency is something that gets the people going in football because it is it is you know the sexy por portion of roster building but like there's arguments to be made that you know free agency is not the most effective way to build a team absolutely and the Texans have existed have done made some big free agent moves this off seas and so there's reasons to maybe go huh let's see let's see if you made the right decision in acquiring this player let's see if they still have in them what you were looking for and whether that money that you ultimately signed them for even if they do have those things is proportionate to what they deliver you in value yeah I think with Nic cerio everybody's like yeah I think that I think the right mov like all these moves like I think that you did what you were supposed to do and just the idea that not only did you make those moves and I don't think there's a lot of doubt I think that also just the idea that you were able to convince players to come to this place without too much uh I think uh koling well CJ Stout help with that sure sure absolutely like having a a a quarterback that is very good and on the upswing but that's another comparison yeah for sure yeah you know and the other thing is and I know this is going to sound a little bit hokey but I think it's very real like the character of The Players while they are still dogs yes like like like I was listening to Kamari Lasser and I'm like uh I was listening to to Moo talk about Kamari Lasser and Lasser himself and I'm like how is this dude 21 or I don't even know if he's 21 hell he might be 20 but but but you know how was he's a kid and he sounds like and you're right he is 21 years AG yeah yeah like he sounds like a guy like he said part of it was he he goes well rookie is just a a a tag or a name or something like that let's hear from his his mouth figgy you got cut eight ready for me as this is Kamari Lasser and his media availability what was this two days ago they didn't have Med availability yesterday this was him talking about you know being a rookie I feel like rookie is just a word honestly I mean I was I was brought here to you know come and do a job so I feel like if I'm not doing my job to my standard or the standard that you know that the organization has then it don't really matter so I mean I mean it's a balance I know I'm going to make mistakes I'm not you know going out there trying to uh walk on eggshells know I'm going to play fast I'm going to play physical I'm going to play my brand of football but at the same time I want it to be right I wanted to be decent in order and I wanted to you know uh match the center of our organization you know I'm I understand that you know it's my first year it's going to be a lot of things that I don't know or that I will see and that I will have to you know come across and and make better but uh in terms of me kind of making that balance is just going out there playing fast playing confident and then um just learning from our mistakes do you have any idea how far from that I was when I was 21 oh buddy I bet if we open that up to the text lines if we open that to the sex line 712 or 713 rather 572 4610 and let me know how far you were away that level of I guess introspection and perspective at the age of well that's that's the that's the audio that made me think polish and maturity like that is a polished dude that is a professional and that is a very mature dude and I was so far away from that at 21 it's not even funny but I think that's part of that's part of like why they've Advanced so quickly to this level and I mean I think this ties in with a couple of things that we were just talking about right like um Deo Ryan in his last media vill was talking about the idea of Kamari Lasser and how the or the impact that playing for Georgia had on it right Georgia has a defense that is complex right they're not out there with very simple keys and telling you hey this if if you see this then this is how you play like there there's some reads there's some keys there's a lot of uh moving Parts within the Georgia defense and Kamari Lasser was able to exist in that and flourish in it and that's one of the things that uh allowed de Ryan to talk glowingly about Kamari Lasser and one of the things that it seems like gives him confidence that Kamari Lasser can step into a starting role on the outside and be able to have some level of success in the NFL and being able to identify then I know that you might look and go hey you know blue you know Blue Chip Prospect from a a big blue blood uh program hey that's not too uh that's not too difficult to identify but the idea that that that's the way that the Texans went with cerio and the decision makers and then also Deo Ryan like that also adds into that that polish that maturity that you're were able to see yeah and I you know I talk about how fast they've come here like a year and a half two years two seasons ago let's say if the Texans were starting two rookies in the secondary we'd be like well they're done you know and now we're like cool you know they're ready you know they must be they must be ready so it's it turns into stability it turns into confidence it turns into just you know the the the the the I hate to say it again but the culture of this team yeah is is just it's just amazing that we've gotten here so quick you know I I I am surprising myself with you know all the confidence I have in this team but I think it's well warranted yeah and in addition to it right I think what makes it really unbelievable for me because we've seen teams like you know go from worst to first or we've seen teams you know improve their status in the world right that's the nature of this thing you know the great teams are not great forever the bad teams are not bad forever these things shift and change but like the speed the quickness that this happened right and we'll talk more about this in varying degrees during the course of the program all the way till 2 p.m. but I mean you got a rookie quarterback in and he immediately flourished in a way where people are willing to put him in the top 10 of their quarterback rankings pretty pretty early right a lot of folks and maybe not everyone but you have that right the ways in which we talked about the free agencies and free agents rather that you were able to get in very quickly and I mean remember last year and I know that from a local perspective there was probably a little bit of optimism but from a national perspective there were people that were still dogging this Texans team oh yeah especially like the idea that hell man you traded up for Will Anderson Jr you gave away your first round pick when you're expected to be at the top of that draft again and you looked up and they were not they of that draft again and that speaks just how quickly this happened and it seems to be like the one of the things that's amazing for me is just like the the unity right the Synergy that's H when it comes to perspective and the way that they want to do things they seem to have their ducks in a row in that way whether it comes to like the way that the physicality is going to be on defense everybody knows what the time is and everybody is operating on that time right uh when you talk about the maturity levels in that way as well like there's various different degrees uh where you talk about the dog in them but also still being you know within line still being uh the right kind of guy so to say and so no I I've been thoroughly impressed looking at the way that this Texans team is now we are in the time period of the of the schedule Oh everybody's optimistic this is the optimistic time but like at least they are they are clearing all the bars that you imagine for this time period in that way no it it it absolutely is but uh uh when you talk about the maturity of this team and we heard from last it's not just him it's like if you were listening during training camp just consistently Blown Away by the the way these people these players you know perform on the field like dogs I mean I mentioned yesterday the AL Sher quote hey if you're soft you might go play somewhere but you ain't going to play here yeah you know and and yet off the field they all seem to buy in and that look that's it starts with d obviously uh and and that's why I made that I made that comparison to uh to the Ravens it's like Deo from a player perspective forget what we think you know forget what people nationally think players are like I want to play for that dude cuz he's the real deal would you say that Deo then deserves the most credit for this now understanding that it's probably a pie where you have to slice it up and get you know handsome to everybody but when it comes to like the the primary uh person that you give the credit for this this particular particular uh place that the the Texans are in it's because they got here so fast like like obviously Nick cerio and and I said last week you know that I think he's already the best general manager this organization's ever had just because of everything that he was able to do and adjust to with a new coach and all that so he gets a lot of a piece of that pie as you talk about but the big portion of it has to begin and end with with Deo and and and it's been stunning to be honest that that we're here you know absolutely and look this has been a incredible thing to watch like um and of course I'm I can speak mostly from afar but it's one of the reasons and we'll we'll talk about if we're drinking too much of the Kool-Aid later in the program but it's one of the reasons why I feel so positively is that on a national scale you can see uh d Diana Rini you can see like all the rankings that are putting this this team as like maybe Super Bowl contenders or at least borderline Super Bowl contenders in that way um and that positivity is because of all of things that we're talking about like the the indicators of things that will make a team good all point in the upwards at least from a from a 30,000 foot view now of course that's where it's our responsibility to get down into the nitty-gritty of hey what's happening here when we talk about you know depth when we talk about the the areas of you know of potential weakness but I it it we do have to make sure that we're very uh cognizant especially because of the uh the the the dry parts that you've gone through uh of how this team is not the team of 5 years ago it's not the team of the David cly era it's not the team of that time it's definitely a new era I mean and and from the 281 on on the text board 7135 72 4610 two years ago we were talking about a total rebuild and now we're talking about a Super Bowl that doesn't happen no it never happens that fast I mean you know that that's what I was saying like this is this the stunning part like when I when I was thinking total rebuild I was thinking six years you know sure at best well we're here and that that's Domo uh that that and that starts with Domo demo I mean Will Anderson Jr um all sorts of folks and speaking of Will Anderson uh that we we got we have one of his uh jerseys an htown Jersey that's going to be giving away here at Twin Peaks uh I 10 and Kirkwood also Christian Harris helmet will be giv away Jaylen Petri football will be giving away and maybe some tickets for this weekend how about if you come through say what's up to in the loop John Lopez Reginal attitude we got figgy fig my man back in studio holding us down uh com up next here on Sports Radio 610 see we're going to talk to Adis Spain at uh 10:40 so we'll move up the question of the day right till 10:20 what's the most old school thing that you still do of course I'm talking to the OG John Lopez talking to me there's some 20 somethings that do old school things man tell me about it uh we'll talk about that next all right right now low Center Low center.com uh is the website you go to that website and 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and and it's going to be on we're going to be watching baseball in here by the way real quick before we get to the question of the day uh Alex bregman back in the lineup lineup just dropped excellent so Alex bregman back in the lineup a lot of positivity that's another thing that we'll definitely have to talk to talk about rather with Adam Spain when he joins us here in about 15 minutes but uh right now question of the day is what is the most old school thing that you still do uh let us know 713 572 4610 is the number to text because um we're out here like I mentioned at TW Peaks and one of the fine gentlemen out here stopped by was talking yeah Scott was talking to us and he was like did you see my my Jeep out in the parking lot I sure as heck did my man has a jeep that is completely like wrapped and everything and it has like the love you Blue um going back to the Houston or the logos got the helmets got the Derek got the color and I'm like that's old school and of course that's a light bulb moment you know uh what's the most old school thing that you still do he's still uh rocking that that Oilers color Oilers color a lot of those people are around town for sure I guess I shouldn't have said those people but anyway wow wow guess I shouldn't have done that you hear this F crazy but I am old school like but at the same time as much as I'm old school and and you know our listeners in figgy and know this and you're going to learn I I I'm really kind of into like the new crap I'm always everything anything new I'm going to try you know whether it's data you know or or websites or or apps or all that stuff but I got two that came to mind okay that I am I am still old school what's the most old school thing you still do we'll see what you guys say and figgy I still use and this is old school okay I still use north south east and west when I'm giving directions or you could have just stop that you were you give direction right like everybody's just like what's the address I'll put it in the app exactly yeah you're like all right so wait okay let me not tell you what you are let me ask do you use landmarks when you're giv directions no well I usually use the app but but like if some like especially when I'm on my boat you know I have I I have the GPS and I have the sonar which will tell me exactly where I want to go but I have just in case it goes out just in case there's a problem I still have a compass on my boat so as I'm leaving I still say okay I'm going North by North by East at at this many degrees or whatever just in case everything goes out I'll know how to come back and if somebody says Hey where's such such and where's where's Twin Peaks on Kirkwood I'll say well it's it's just south of the freeway got you you know and people like what I'm amazed that people don't have that that that innate sense of uh Direction gu I've just been blessed in that way uh what's the most old school thing that you still do folks already texting in uh let is this does this cons count as old school from the 409 still put potato chips on my sandwich I don't know don't that's a good question that is old SCH old that that's what we're asking that's that's a good question um now 512 I'm here with you on that though they said when it comes to old school it's music right they said they were told at the fire station that uh that they wouldn't listen to it unless uh it was blasting out of a T-top or Trans Am yeah man I I love going back and listening to old school stuff to the point where uh with my little brothers I'm I have will very much do the um what you know about that uh well you know that this this is this was sampling uh this song from that I'm like okay yeah you sound like somebody's daddy you need to stop yeah well figgy knows I'm old school Funk man like I pretty much if you if you're listen if I'm listening to music it's going to be you know baray brick commodor earthwind and fire I mean just go down the list that's why I always get a little hop in my step on the intro to our uh because that's an old school beat yeah that's an old school beat it sure is uh and the other one uh that I still do old school I fig I want to ask you and I'm going to ask obviously uh Reginald on this is I this is like old man stuff but I don't care I've been doing it since I've been my 30s I'm kind of a lowkey amateur birder I love wow love identifying Birds looking at Birds I got binoculars on my front porch cuz I got two bird feeders out there oh that's a blah blah blah you know that's an old old that's an old man activity but I was doing it when I wasn't an old man I just love birds I just love I mean if you like it I love it that's not that is not something that I particularly have an interest in but I do find it fascinating that folks had that kind of like wherewithal to be able to identify serious things that's a nor eastern bluebird that's a blah blah blah that's a you know what about you you got to have something yeah okay so I was thinking about it um and for me I think that my old school thing is I'm still going to go pick it up in person right there's so many people that have adapted to this new world of delivery deling groceries or I mean pizza delivery is not new but everything delivered to the crib and I'm like if I'd much rather go to the the brick and mortar store I'd much rather go in and talk to some but you do Amazon I mean I do for sure but if I have the option to go and get it locally I absolutely will 100% man I my Amazon guy I'm a first name hey how's how's Carol you know right how's the family that's incredible uh fig is there is there something that comes to mind for you on the question of the day what old school thing do you still do yeah so I was thinking and we actually talked about this yesterday man how whenever I show prep man I can't really do it from my phone I got to I got to break out a laptop I got to set out a computer to focus I can't a lot of people get a lot of work done just from their phone I got to have a mouse in my hand man I'm sorry I got to have a mouse and the keyboard it's it's hard for me to even work on the iPad because there's no physical no physical keyboard or Mouse so I I guess I'm old school when it come to that where do we fall on this one from the 409 I haven't done this in forever I still leave people voicemails yeah that's old school that is old scho nobody listens to them yeah that's the problem that's exactly the issue right you leave and you having the voicemail etiquette right leaving your number and everything yeah nobody nobody John call me at right call me back yeah if if you really need it go ahead and text that in so I because nobody is actually calling their voicemail line no I'm with you that's that's that's that's tough um how about this um this is something I feel like we need to not make old school we need to just have all the way around from A2 still wave at people when I cut them off or when they let me in 100% yeah I'm I am on that and I get insulted if I don't get the wave yeah exactly if I let if I let somebody in and they don't wave like hey thank you I'm like okay I shouldn't have done that yeah man we just need some courtesy we definitely need some courtesy um shout out to to the 281 who says they listen to in the loop on the radio not the app the YouTube or the twitch we appreciate that but I mean any way you get at us if you're hanging out with us we appreciate this we were having a little conversation about this one in particular cuz this person said they use cash no matter how inconvenient and yeah that's the place where I'm new school as heck I no I can't I don't like dealing with cash at all no no uh me neither I have a friend that uses exclusively cash oh like and I I've given him such a hard time I'm like what are you doing why are you doing this it's just it just doesn't seem right uh but yeah some people some people do that for sure yeah man so many of these coming in you know what we we'll keep going here uh let me see if I can speedrun some of these fish with the cane pole that's going to be in your oh know that's been uh decades that's been decades um let me see someone else said that uh they don't play about getting their feet swep by a broom is that is that an old like kind of wives tale cuz I'm I'm I'm not going to be that sound like man oh my gosh I don't even know that one okay let's see um someone said they still have a rotary phone and I don't know there's no way this is this is one I do pretty often too like remember back in the day in the car you couldn't if you had the AC on you can't roll the windows down or it's going to burn the gas up and all yeah I still feel that way man I I'll let my windows down if I got the AC on you're wasting gas right burning my gas up for sure and then another one when I'm getting gas I got to make sure I like touch the um touch the car first ah to release the uh static electricity I feel like that's just look even if that is old school that's just good business that is good business just tap the car a little bit that's just good business I like that no reason to take any chances with that tap the car on the ass a little bit Yeah zero social media from the 979 they I don't know how you can survive 9 79 what from the 832 yeah go ahead and use that one this one I'm 100% with 713 still use 59 yeah I was like that's a question I needed to ask the people are we actually on this calling calling Southwest Freeway 69 we still call it Southwest Freeway yeah I was like I got I got it back to town I touched down and I was like what is this about it being 69 I don't like that at all no I like Southwest Freeway North Northeast free Northeast uh ktie freeway gol freeway uh I like all that it kind of separates us from uh from the pack so to speak uh but yeah you know there are some old school things some people said read a newspaper hey shout out to you I I'll read it digitally I'm not getting a paper well yeah that's what say I don't mind the digital stuff I don't see how you could mind it mine mine is like why why would you do that Comfort it feels good and you know what like there is something nice about having physical copies of things as somebody who likes doing a lot on like I have a million tabs open that being able to quickly get to you're looking for pH matters a whole bunch so I I I think that there's benefits to it I'm just not going to do it no me nether you know what let's find out what Adam Spain what he uh what the old school thing that he still does is in addition to talking about these uh Houston Astros who will be playing a day game to finish out a set with the Red Sox we'll do that next the Texans closed down the preseason at NRG Stadium against the Rams on Saturday cue the game here with pregame coverage starting at 9 it's kickoffs at noon with Mark Vander Mayer and Andre [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] I [Music] a [Music] [Music] [Music] n n [Music] w oh [Music] by ten in Kirkwood it's in the loop with John Lopez and Reginald atula who they want who they want who they want who they want who they want baseball SP baseball Spas this intro is hard I'm so excited to talk to our guy Adam Spain who is our Astros Insider here on Sports Radio 610 uh Spain what's happening man hey Reggie it's good talking to you and I'm I'm looking forward to to meeting you uh sometime here in the near future but welcome to the station um question number one why do you have the hardest intro that I've heard far that that is all figgy Yours Truly man yeah let's be honest I am the exact opposite of that intro too you know what I never would have guessed that uh never would have guessed that spit some bars on that song too man yeah we got to get you know say I'm ball SPO I think that'll work I think that'll work I think that'll go um so Spain before before we get into like the baseball of this all we were just uh having a conversation about the most old school things that we still do some folks were talking about the ideas of still using cash we just had someone from the 832 texting about how they need a physical printed ticket with sporting events which I imagine is impossible how do you get those to handle right now is there something that comes to mind for you about like oh this is a real old school thing I still do not off the top of my head you know I I don't use cash I I guess I will use cash sometimes and it's just at the gas station because it's like 10 cents cheaper so I guess that's like the one thing that I all right true all right a little frugality there that his money I like that yeah yeah that's good all right so uh we were wondering about Kyle Tucker and Alex bregman but we got an answer on Alex bregman today didn't we yeah bregman's gonna play today he's dhing and play and batting in the leadoff spot I think he probably could have played last night he he was holding a bat uh and ready to to pinch H in the nth Jo said though that he was never going to play I think he wanted to the team obviously was going to be extra careful with him uh so he's in the leadoff spot today my guess is uh he might be able to play Third Base when they get to Baltimore tomorrow um yesterday uh as of yesterday he had really only played light catch so we'll see if maybe that's something that they've been able to uh increase the intensity of uh in the last 24 hours but yeah bregman is back uh right now I'm looking at Kyle Tucker he is playing catch out in the Outfield right now um so again it's been a holding pattern here really for the last you know two and a half months at at this point but Dana Brown did uh he did an interview earlier this morning and he said that they're thinking the first week of September now that's 10 you know September 1st is 10 days from now so that's basically what a 17-day window where he could come back but it feels like to me there are still a lot of hurdles that he he still needs to cross the starter for today for the Astros is indeed Justin Verlander as he makes his return to the club uh he has only thrown what 57 pitches he's worked his way up and after ronell Blanco had you know a pretty short outing how how well situated are they with the pen to be able to handle uh what is going to happen over these uh this next stretch um the bullpen is not in great shape um you know when you have kakuchi uh only go what five and two3 in the game on Monday and then Blanc they had to really deep deep into the dig deep into the bullpen last night just to get 27 outs in that game and you know Verlander they'll probably say and we'll talk to a spot here in about 15 minutes uh they'll probably have him at about 75 pitches today but against this Red Sox lineup the idea that he's going to be able to get through five innings seems pretty unlikely uh so I'll be interested to see if if maybe their plans have changed with the bullpen um here today and just because also they optioned Seth Martinez who did not pitch in either of the last two games so he would have been fresh a and so that's one less option that they have coming out of that Bullpen today so it's going to be tough to get them through this game and that's the hard part about going to a six-man rotation is that you have one fewer arm in the bullpen and so when you have a starter who does not go deep into into a game then that really puts the onus on everybody else to go deep into the game but obviously I don't know if Verlander will be able to do that and then you go to tomorrow and I don't know if Spencer arti is going to be able to go deep into the game against that very good Orioles lineup I thought maybe that they would piggyback arag Getti uh with furlander today but it doesn't seem like that is uh in the equation as erati is walking out here to go through a throwing program so I don't think that's going to be the case well we definitely are in the mode of looking toward the postseason uh which is in itself a story uh how's the Outfield going to look they've been trying some things they signed they they brought in another guy Chaz McCormack has struggled mightily as we all know although he had a good game the other day how would you predict this Outfield to look as we get into September yeah I don't I don't know uh obviously a lot of it is going to be dependent on Kyle Tucker coming back which again they seem to think that he'll be back here in the next two three weeks um but Jake Meers is pretty much entrenched into center field you know I know offensively he hasn't been very good lately but he does play Elite defense at that position uh they'll play yordon Alvarez uh in left field every now and then they've had to play him more in left field recently just because they've wanted to get U some of their other bats into the lineup but I think that you're going to see them really start grasping at straws and that's the Ben gaml move that they made yesterday where they claimed him off labors from the Mets he's only played in six major league games this season I think it's maybe only 24 Major League games the last two years but they have been really working the waiver wire all year whether it was for pitching whether it was for bench bats and I think that they'll continue to do that and you know any anybody that they add between now and September 1st is eligible to be on the postseason roster but even if they get you know past September 1st they could still look to add guys remember they added Bennett Susa after September 1st last year and he got them a lot of big outs out of that Bullpen uh down the stretch even though he wasn't eligible to be on the postseason roster so they're going to try they they are going to search long and hard to see if they can find options uh to improve the club um they they've been doing it all year nobody really has worked uh but I don't think that they will stop trying so we mentioned Ben gaml the the dart that they're throwing to try and help with the Outfield what what would be a success for him what would be necessary for him to be successful and help the Outfield um that he's be able to stay on the roster for now until game 162 I think that's really you know they they've tried all these guys and very few of them have even been able to stick so I I think that you are looking for someone who can provide you you know around League average offense and hold up defensively because that's an upgrade over what they've been running out there at the corners here since Kyle Tucker's been hurt that's what's been pretty remarkable about this run is that they've been able to do it with just kind of piecing together an outfield at this point where it's McCormick and right or maybe sometimes it's St cabbage and R or it's Mauricio Bond playing the corners so I I just think that they are looking for someone who can provide them not even League average offense but close to League average offense at this point for the corners yeah and and and and I'm glad you said that because bregman to me is so huge not just because he was on such a tear but when you look at this this everyday lineup and it it sounds almost Blasphemous to say this because they've been so hot but the bottom of the order is still not exactly ripping it you know ripping the cover off the ball so you know they they need they still need to get the bottom of the lineup going and and bregman's probably going to help a lot with that well the bottom of the order is bad I mean let's just be flat out the bottom of the order that last half of the of the lineup is just not good and especially when you have guys who aren't you know if Chaz McCormack got back to being the Chaz mccormic from last year then that changes things a little bit but he's not and they are asking a whole lot of Mauricio duvon by asking him to play every day and basically playing you know one of the corners here so the drop off between Alex man and Shay Wham who's been playing third base for the most part the last five games that's pretty steep you know the the drop off from Kyle Tucker to whoever they've been playing in right field has been pretty steep and that's why you know their depth they just don't have it you know they don't have it really and this is you know what you've seen the last you know five games without bregman is kind of a look at what you might be seeing you know next year bregman does choose to leave in free agency uh they just they just don't have a lot and they they've tried they've tried bringing guys up from from Triple A it hasn't worked they've tried bringing guys in from outside the organization that hasn't worked uh again it is pretty remarkable that they are where they are now when you consider how just devastated the roster has been with injuries now SPO you know a familiar face is out there on the market as we talk about the idea of going and just picking Folks up Hector nerys was uh released by the Cubs is that is that give you any level of intrigue are you interested in that at all for these Astros yeah I think that that's something that they will certainly expl War um he hasn't been that good this season I know the ra is okay but when you really dig deep into the numbers it quite hasn't been that good and even last year I know the ER I think was under two last year he wasn't quite that good but he's a guy who they know he's a guy who um was a leader within that Clubhouse last year he's pitched in a lot of big Innings before and you know again you look at the the the last couple of guys on that staff they are not established Major Leaguers they are not guys I think that you would trust to to get big outs in a big spot and I do think that nerys would be the opposite so yeah I do think that they will explore uh bringing in Hector nerys I think that naris will have a few suitors uh at this stage uh but obviously going back to the Astros would give him a chance to win it's a familiar place he's well liked within that club out so I do think that that's something that they'll they will certainly explore and you know who knows that that might be something that works out for them one more on uh on Verlander because we have our opinions but I want to ask you you mentioned about what to expect you know today and maybe the shortterm term but what what is he going to be for this team what does he need to be I should say uh for this team to go ahead and and make this run even even more special uh I just think realistically yeah I think that you're not you're not getting a sa young guy anymore I mean I think that that's been the case really for the last couple of years what he did in 2022 was pretty much an anomaly and like a one of one type season for when you consider the age I think that you are looking at a guy who can give you a quality start you know you're looking at a guy who you're hoping he can give give you six and give up two or three runs I think that's what you're looking at right now I I don't think he's the type of guy who's going to be able to give you seven eight Innings anymore I I think that he's going to go out and give you a professional start he's not going to blow up on you uh you know that if he pitches he's probably going to be able to at least give you five and um you know maybe maybe you're able to get six out of him at this point um he understands his body he understands when he can let it go I think just reading about his last uh Rehab start you know he was kind of sitting 92 93 for the first three Innings and then he really let it go uh once he got to the fourth and was back up to 95 96 so he's the type of guy who's going to be able to get him through the early Innings and then when he needs to bump it up he's able to bump it up but he just can't go into the tank as much as he could in the past so to me if you're looking at like getting into the playoffs if I'm them I'm saying okay we're g to give you two times for the order we're going to give you 18 hitters you can air it out then and then we'll have somebody in behind you who can really clean up and bridge the gap to those last you know to the last few Innings with the bullpen so I I think you're just hoping you're you're just hoping to get decent starts you're hoping maybe to get through the fifth maybe if you're lucky you get to the sixth there you go SPO appreciate you giving us a little bit of your time talking Astros enjoy the game today man thanks Reggie and again looking forward happy to have you at the station looking forward to meeting you in person thank you my man likewise there you go Adam Spain our Astros Insider here on Sports Radio 610 join us every Wednesday yes sir 10:40 looking forward to that every year especially the way that the Astros are playing uh yeah going to get even more interesting it sure is it sure is so the verland are going today I believe that's a first pitch 110 if I remember correctly you watch it right here that's right where we are uh I 10 and Kirkwood it's Twin Peaks and we're getting ready to open up here shortly so come out have some lunch sign up for some potential giveaways I mean there's a jersey there's a signed football there's a signed helmet and you know there might be some tickets as well so come out and say what's up to us out here at Twin Peaks coming up next though we go around the NFL where the Brian Flores Tua Tong OFA thing continues as the as the world of the NFL turns yes sir ability trees right now ability trees.com and Lewis Flory what a good dude he is I've known Lis [Music] [Music] w w [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] w yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] I I [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] Insider access exclusive content sports radio 61 the Texans play here an odyssey sports station let's go around the NFL in the loop style here's John Lopez and Reginald adula now if you want to Crown them then Crown their ass on Houston sports leader Sports Radio 610 yes let's go around the NFL here Sports Radio 610 in the loop uh we are live Twin Peaks uh doors are open I 10 Kirkwood yeah doors are open folks are filing in and that means that the the food's about to start flowing here soon as well which I know that John is excited about You're darn right amongst other things I ain't going to hide from that grill wings man I ain't okay yeah good that's the recommendation I had forgotten about the grill wings got those grill wings a couple weeks ago man we sure did I appreciate the heads up cuz I completely would have forgotten U that's the first thing I thought about well I I definitely can't forget about this here uh in the NFL cuz Tu Tunga went on Dan levitar show and he he stirred some things up uh talking about his relationship with Brian Flores and maybe some of the ways that it wasn't the the rosiest right there there was some uh negativity there it seems um but Brian Flores obviously being a being a prominent member of the U of of the NFL and so being in front of media was asked about tua's comments and being uh calling Brian Flores a terrible person and so if you can give me cut nine here fig this is Brian Flores at the podium responding to uh those those allegations so you know that hit me in a way that you know wasn't I wouldn't say was positive for me um but at the same time I you know I've got to use that and say hey how can I how can I grow from that how can I be better and that's really that's really where I'm at from from that standpoint um do I feel like that's me no but you know how can I grow from that situation and create a create a world where that's not you know the case that anyone says that about about Brian let me ask you how did you interpret his his response cuz something very clear came out to me well for me there there wasn't an outright denial that's so that was like okay there's probably some validity in here however I think there is something to be said for this is a man who you know took the NFL to court like he put a whole bunch of names on it like I feel like he is not unwilling to stir some things up but I also think that maybe that experience has given him a little bit of perspective possibly yeah that hey man going back and forth is probably not beneficial and he went further to talk about um in a little bit of that audio how you know he's focused on you know the guys that he's dealing with right now who apparently showed him a lot of support and came to his defense came to his defense those Vikings players right now yeah it's fair there is that um but yeah so look he he he seemed to at least be handling it in the way that he talked about it in a relatively healthy way but no there was not a Flatout denial of of the the allegation well see that that that's what jumped out to me it was like he was saying yes I treated him like crap I mean if we're going to interpret what he said yes I did that hopefully I can evolve so and I'm just you know kind of s trying to succinctly you know put what he said in context yes I did it I'm going to try to evolve so so what what as far as like taking sides which is what we do everybody does it just naturally you're going to take a side do you believe this or do you believe that um I I do side with Tua in the sense that I think this dude was a real not just coaching you know trying to help the guy I think he was a real jerk to him now I mentioned this with with Sean and Seth about an hour ago we all have people in our lives whether it's high school football coaches that's the example I gave or people in business or or work or school that were just tough loving our asses to death right you know they were just tough loving us to death the example I gave was a coach that I had that the first couple of months I met him I knew him U I hated him I still keep in contact with him today because after about two months I'm like this dude is great for me you know so there's a difference between a guy that is tough loving you and a a-hole yeah and I think that that's a big thing we talk we talked about that yesterday with be Scott is that there's sometimes where and a lot of times particularly in sports where that that line that delineation we're not good at identifying that it's one of the things that really upset me you remember when the Last Dance came through and everybody was like oh well that's what it takes to be a champion I was like no he's a sociopath what are we talking about that's right right like he was great at basketball and he was terrible to people those things aren't you know necessarily uh those things don't have to be they're not mutually exclusive yeah there you go that's the phrase so yeah I was like I I wonder if this this might be one of those things that's in there where he recognizes maybe he was trying to coach him hard as we talked about it's possible within the the the the case of though that coaching tree that bich coaching tree with the way that he is very difficult or tough on his players but maybe he took it to a place where it was maybe a little too personal or maybe he wasn't good about it and that the the one thing I could say is on the back end of it what was done what was done I I appreciate the idea even if I don't know if there's like full accountability necessarily that he's like look I'm going to try and make sure that nobody says is that about me again and no matter which side you take to of aloa is better because of it he's better now that he's not under Brian Flores I mean that much is obvious like whatever it is that Mike McDaniel is doing is a much better way to coach him you know sure yeah there's definitely a system that that's better suited to his uh to his skill sets right now with Miami with yeah the Miami Dolphins uh elsewhere around the NFL we got a little news on the Sunday Ticket uh situation are you a Sunday Ticket guy uh no I've got the others I got every I can watch all I've got Red Zone on my xinity I've got Hulu you know all the other ones so I don't actually have Sunday Ticket uh but I probably should I always felt like it was a little excessive cuz like yeah you already have you have your you know three National or I guess five National games that you get locally and then if you really kind of want to see some other things Red Zone will give you the The Slice of Life they'll give you kind of a taste of everything else Red Zone I'm a sicko when it comes to Red Zone like that's all I watch likewise I have I have that on one of the televisions then local broadcast on another but um if you want a very particular Game On Any Sunday Sunday Ticket is the product for you with the NFL and it's the thing that the NFL has been embroiled in lawsuits about because of the pricing and Buddy the pricing is is still indeed pricing there's a report that the NFL Sunday Ticket is now available on the Apple App Store forget this $679 man. 99 man and if you want to add red Zone it's $739 which come on you can't throw red and also how much is that to add Red Zone there like that is a what an extra $60 for Red Zone oh you want that well let's stick it to you here too I if you love your team they know you're going to pay for it that's all this is I mean it's like you live in Pittsburgh and you're a Texans fan uh they know you're going to pay or if you want to see all the other games they know you're going to pay if you're that big of a fan and I hate it but I get it I hate it though I I hate that that's that's a bleep ton of money for one sport yeah for one sport I mean what does that work out to if we talk about the NFL season what five six months five months 100 something uh yeah that's that's a good price but hey at least you would get to watch every single game of the NFL I don't know how you're finding the time to watch every single game but shout out to you in that regard um we missed this cuz this happened been a little bit earlier in the week but I found this to be interesting as getting a feel for the Texans and you know the environment Cal McNair obviously is a person of interest when it comes to these Houston Texans and he's been really Hands-On and like uh really fan forward of late and you know kind of exemplifying that is he did an AMA in the same way that we kind of did on Monday for me um he got on on Reddit and was open to the fans ask uh their questions and so he got on there some questions I don't think there was anything that was super Illuminating about the team itself I think someone asked about the uh more more former players around the team right now and you know just kind of speaking to the way that the team is good and demo being around kind of helped that out other than that seemed like C was just having fun on the internet there was a lot of fun my favorite part was uh was the the the exchange he had uh that Hannah mcir weighed in on and that was the question of if Bobby slowick got sick and had to miss a game could Hannah call plays Hannah weighed in I like this idea I would Blitz all day think about that for a second because Cal McNair did and he said babe Bobby's on offense yeah yeah not really Hannah knows better than that however now if if you allowed her to play you know call the plays on defense and she Blitz all day would you have an issue with that would that be a problem for you everybody likes a good Blitz right everybody likes a good blit engage eight that's the way some us play Madden anyway so yes exactly yeah but I mean it it's really fun to see him have and then on top of that if you if you are a redditor and a Texans fan it seems like the that Texans Reddit is something you should be involved in because he also gave away the football that he had in front of him as he was doing it he gave away a jersey I think a demo Ryan's jersey signed in fact to Texans fans so yeah shout out to Cal McNair getting in touch with the people because it's all about the people um some other things around the NFL here so the Washington command ERS did something I found was kind of I don't know interesting I I didn't understand particular the reason is what I'll go with so there was an NFL free agent he's a punter his name is Drew Chrisman and you know he's 27 year old been looking for a job for a year after he was cut by the Bangals and so for the last 12 months he just worked out with various teams and I feel like a lot of folks now are a lot of there there's a lot of folks in this Lane they where they kind of are content creators as well yeah um I don't know if it's a supplement income or whatever or just a fun thing that they do but he does that and so in order to kind of give a little bit of insight into that experience um he do did some behind the scenes kind of looks at what the experience is of trying out for an NFL team and one of those videos was about the commanders and so they they tried him out August 13th yeah and 5 days later he released a video that showcased everything uh with it interesting you know talked about what a punter goes through during a triy out which I mean I don't think I ever had any idea on what that entails right like you just go kick for a little bit right um so he went through the tri kick the ball right he like can you kick the ball yes cool can you not no all right all right we'll see you later um but no he shared the video and then the Commander's legal team came by and called him and told him to delete it he actually posted a picture of his agent texting him letting him know the legal team let him know that they needed to pull the video down is that fair or foul to be like yo you can't be putting a video of us trying you out I mean I think like technically it's fair right like I guess there was some privileged information maybe that they didn't want out uh from from a football standpoint or from an organizational standpoint I just thought you know I thought the biggest reason uh that they did that is cuz they were embarrassed you know I thought they were just a little bit embarrassed like like or or whatever aware maybe a little self-conscious uh of of some of the the tough things that that he has to go through some of the the situations and some of the uh I guess like the the the things that he has to go through to become to to finish this process weren't exactly first class all the way you know so I thought they were like all right don't make us look bad you know yeah so I I thought that was kind of wild to have that happen like you know hey take that video down we we don't need that um some other things around the NFL uh the Cowboys seem to be having a tough Camp obviously you know the big ticket things which is they can't get any of their dudes signed but even on a smaller level things are going all sorts of bad so one on one front uh defensive tackle Mazy Smith out there there he missed their preseason game this past weekend cuz he had an allergic reaction to some milk it's no joke yeah apparently no joke apparently he has a peanut allergy and in some way I guess the milk had become contaminated um so he had an allergic reaction that kept him out of a game and on top of that the because you know the the Cowboys aren't like the Texans like they don't they don't do their training camp locally they they ship out to oxar California and so they have hotels and stuff that they work that they you know work with in order to be able to accommodate them yeah and they had a fire this week at their hotel as well not a not a cheap fire either it was legit like it was it was it was pretty big as I understood it anyway if you needed like an omen when it came to what that thing does look like with the Cowboys like this feels like that's it right yeah that that that's it it does like things are not going well for the Dallas Cowboys let's let let's put it that way I I I I you know on the peanut allergy thing as a lot of our listeners and you know my my my wife is a School director a preschool and kindergarten school directories you can't even have it in the room like like if there're kids that have peanut out you can't even have anything no peanut butter and jelly sandwiches nothing it can't even be in the room uh so I'm buying that but but there are a lot of Omens going on with the Dallas Cowboys man got fires you got peanut allergies you got milk you you got all kinds of these things you got an inability to sign your best players you got that you got uh you know I wouldn't necessarily say uh I'm in a hurry to sign oh I don't know our best wide receiver a lot of things happening with Dallas man yeah so uh real quick before we go uh the Texans did make a signing a fullback um are you interested at all in this because fullback has been a position of great consternation here I'm not interested but I think there is something to be uh read into it and maybe I'm reading too much but uh I think this is kind of a sign that the the Texans are in fact going to have practice today by the way they're they're going to be they're wrapping up practice as we speak some interesting good things happening out there and maybe we'll get into that like Joe Mixon is on the field and and and uh breaking off some nice runs but I think the signing itself because it's a it's Camp body Nick Nick Bowen yeah he's a fullback yeah which they're kind of thin at fullback so that tells me that starters ain't going to play on Saturday like nobody correct nobody because they're trying to just bolster the back end of the roster and and our man Nick doesn't care here uh because he's getting something on tape anyway so maybe somebody else will be interested so yeah that that's the story there like I think they're going to go hard tomorrow uh in the joint practice and then see you later there you go a little bit around the NFL I actually also needed to make note of someone went on the I um I believe it was weeks if I remember correctly um I'll I'll I'll clean that up as we continue here in the loop but you are indeed in the loop here on Sports Radio 610 we are live at Twin Peaks on I 10 and Kirkwood come out and say what's up to us people are already sitting here enjoying some drinks some food yeah we're getting pretty full already and we're going to have some um Raffles correct for yes you know a Will Anderson Jersey a Jaylen Petry football Christian Harris uh helmet and some tickets uh this weekend to this weekend's game so you'll want to come out and say what's up to us here in the loop coming up next it's 11:20 um do do you have what I have here because my internet's down uh where does this division rank in the NFL oh yeah cuz it should where does this division rank in the NFL let's discuss that next sir [Music] la [Music] w [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] I [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] The Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast h Sports leader Sports Radio 610 Sports Radio 610 presents live from Twin Peaks off I 10 in Kirkwood it's in the loop with John Lopez and Reginald atula that's right we are indeed in the loop and we're hanging out at Twin Peaks off of uh Katy Freeway I 10 and Kirkwood come out and see us already folks hanging out getting something to drink get something to eat here um and look John do you want to call an audible here we wanted to talk about where this division ranks in the NFL but that's something you can talk about anytime when the when the coach of the Houston Texans is talking I feel like you want to hear it so big practice ahead of what is going to be an important practice in the uh The Joint practice with the Rams tomorrow and so Deo Ryan's talking today after they finished practice today let's roll a little bit of that fig get a little bit of a feeling what the heck coach has to say why not why not now how you guys doing good having ly and the caliber of tackle is how much does that mean to this offense laramy is one of the best tackles in the league so having him back out here working with us I mean he's done a phenomenal job he's been top tackling this throughout his entire career so anytime you get a guy like that of his caliber back it helps our entire team uh lar is is uh you know he's doing a great job here practicing uh he's looking like himself uh he's doing really great job of leading that group o line group so I'm happy to just see all those guys working together right that's how you build that continuity guys have to be out there be in the fire together and they've been doing it for the past couple weeks D you got change up scy tomorrow with the Rams coming what you want to accomplish a workout with guys yeah we're excited to have the Rams come in and work with us on tomorrow it'll be a lot of situational football talking with uh coach McVey just want to work situations that normally wouldn't come up or things that we can manufacture ourselves and get just good clean work amongst two really good teams so I'm excited our guys are excited to work work with the Rams uh you know they have a ton of respect for Coach McVey and what he's done you know throughout his career uh he's always had his team ready to go and I'm just excited for our guys to get a chance to get some different looks offensively and defensively so we can strain ourselves mentally you have a philosophy on the the physicality of the joint workout just to make sure out Health well best you can I think that's the main idea behind the joint practices is you get a chance to you know you get to get a chance to play physical football you Thug guys up right we're we're still not going to the ground we'll treat both teams you know treat each other like teammates like we would normally practice uh no cheap shots or anything like that but it's about getting good quality work in uh one of my you know thing I don't like it guys just coming out ready to just make it a shelving match that's what it's not about it's about getting you know good work with different schemes that's what it's all about and we'll get that work tomorrow coach look at some of these guyss that are on the bubble it may not be to some of the fault of their own it just may be some of the positions may be crowded what can they do this last week in this last preseason game to maybe change change some Minds for guys who are in this this spot you know trying to crack the roster they just have to focus on what they can control uh you never know what happens that roster you know get set next week but that's never the final roster that's always my message to guys is even if it's a uh a no on next week like that's that doesn't mean it's a a definite no for the season so you just always have to remain ready always understand like how are you controlling what you can control that's your attitude your effort and your commitment if you control those things you'll be just fine what's uh D the biggest off right now yeah Damian he just we got to get him some Ops in the game you know get him some more Ops running the football but Damian has done a great job out here at practice I don't think everybody's seen that in the game cuz you know when he had his opportunities we got guys unblocked in the hole so he doesn't have a chance to really get started so you know we just have to give him more opportunities but we have to block it better up front so he does have opportunities to make some plays in a running game speak know there's a young man here today from Make A Wish Lucas want to be Stan digs and gotu what's it mean to be able to host a kid like that family look forward up next it's very special moment for us today to host Lucas with a make a wish his favorite player Stefon dig so for a young kid 10 years old to get the opportunity to hang out here with Steph today uh it's a special moment that he'll always remember and that's one thing for all of us just create memories in life enjoy every day enjoy every moment create those special special memories something we can hold on to we had Lucas break us down today and all of our guys you know were excited to see him we'll take a few more coach a have day back in practice today and uh he made some very good throws to me and the Hut yeah Davis made some big plays for us see see he uh he stepped in made Big Time throws he commanded the offense really well think lot of it was exciting to have him back seeing the play plays that he was able to make that was that was pretty cool we asked you about war PR Bullock Kay Kaylin's been steady he's been uh making plays for us he's been consistent throughout practice he finds a way to get his hands on the ball every day in practice so I'm I'm excited about his growth and his development as a young you know safety in our system I think he has a chance to be one of the better ones uh that I've had a chance to work with when you were talking about last one getting back out here and how that feels for everybody is kind of the same thing get Joe back out here with that group today yeah anytime you get your your starters back out it's just it's good for everyone to see see those guys working right kind they set the tone for our team so to see laramy to see Joe and just see the type of workers that they are like it helps everyone around them see if you want to be a good player you have to push and work like those guys work all right thank you guys all right yes sir this Deo Ryan head coach of year Houston Texans talking after their practice today and some interesting things that he got into there obviously this is a important time in the roster building process obviously the big thing is Damen Pierce right big thing is D and the continued I support the right word but the continued kind of uh careful wording that he's used around Damen Pearson his evaluation of him it's it's it's definitely protecting him a little bit from some of the the you know the criticism that's out there here and it's not really so much criticism as just sort of you know kind of stating the obvious but he when he said he needs more reps hasn't had a chance to get started in games I was like like I me I looked at you and I talked to figgy over the line like what need need some more reps yeah need some more reps he's gotten all the Reps right especially with the first team but I think this is where it gets interesting for me because I it seemed like Deo was trying to make a distinction between we've seen him in practice do good things you guys aren't seeing that necessarily translate to the games um and the reason why we can continue into but is that a problem in and of itself if he ends up being kind guess practice guy and not a gamer you that's problem if that is what we're setting up or if the other thing that's being set up and shout out to of course uh Seth Payne on this because he's been big on this is the offensive line not doing nearly a good enough job blocking this up because I know that we talk about you know cam makers and we've seen you know JJ Taylor and all these other folks uh get behind this line and look better even if they don't look incredible but if if if you have the you know first team offensive line and your head coach is like yo they're not doing a good enough job and that's why this dude is looking as poor putting up as po performances as he is that's your starting line for the most part minus laramy tunel that's who you're going to have Joe Mixon running behind and that's who you're going to be depending on to have your run game be some level I've I've questioned or wondered I should say the the the the same thing I really wanted to see someone else run the ball Against Behind the first team offensive line I really wanted that um now I I think there is a little room for interpretation here okay because let's let's be very clear about what happened today and what's going to happen tomorrow the starters are out there and they're and they're going hard larmy tunel you heard Daman uh excuse me you heard Domo talking about that ly tunel was out there today he was he damn sure is going to be out there tomorrow against the Rams uh Joe Mixon was out there today and and you know breaking off some decent runs I think he had an 11 yard run on one and uh at least from what we're we're seeing and he he's darn sure going to be out there tomorrow kayin bulock on the defensive side yeah got a name drop in there worked with the first team today and got his name dropped from by by demo Ryan quote one of the better ones he's had a chance to work with that's a mouthful right there when you talk about that so so let's interpret the Damen Pierce thing with what we're seeing today and going to see tomorrow the ones are going getting a lot of reps the ones are going hard but he also said Damen Pierce needs more reps so Dam Pierce is probably going to play on Saturday yeah I could see that right for sure because I I don't think the starters are if they're going hard today and they're going hard tomorrow I don't know how much if any that they're going to play uh on Saturday but Damen Pierce uh and this is just me interpreting it will so that kind of means or it just means that they're going to try and get him a lot of reps tomorrow in the in the practice joint practice uh but he was talking about the offensive line and all that stuff well the starting offensive line going to be there Saturday so uh there there's some room here for interpretation but I think Damen Pierce is uh definitely kind of playing for his position on the depth chart if not his position on the on the roster uh was there anything else that you found to be particularly interesting well all these star's a lot of stuff in there there's a lot in there all these starters playing but no Will Anderson so there is clearly some little something that's still hanging on that's hanging on same thing with Christian Harris there is still some little something uh that's hanging on I wouldn't worry too much but I wouldn't expect them uh tomorrow and then the other thing uh one two of them are are obviously Texans related the other one is just really really cool uh I always I'm a sucker for this uh the Kalin bulock thing stood out to me he he got reps with the first team he's going to be your starting safety like like you know this is the time as you're wrapping up training camp as you're wrapping up you know the the the the meat of the training camp schedule because then then it's on after this weekend sure uh kayin Bullock is going to be your starting safety that's pretty that's pretty impressive and for Domo to say he has a chance to be quote one of the better ones I've coached man High Praise man and and if you compare that and I don't know if this is a direct comparison that you want to make to the way that he's been very careful about Dam Pierce like you I if you if you're willing to look at demo Ryan as he's trying to be careful and not put his guys in a bad position that means that he really truly believes that praise cuz you're you're putting a lot of expectations on he not being careful with kayin Bullock yeah the other thing on the field uh Davis Mills had a good day Davis Mills is going to be your backup quarterback Nick cerio said as much flat out before the game on Saturday yes cerio said as much I don't know if push comes to shove uh if they're going to have the confidence in him that they have right now because they they've gone with with Case Keenum in the past so that's that and then just I'm a big sucker for this uh they had Lucas out there make a wish kid a guest of Stefan digs and you know you heard him right there saying he broke us down dude that's so awesome I mean that that's just come on I mean that's so awesome yeah I mean just like a community perspective 10 years old making sure making sure to you know remember who we do it for in some ways that's pretty awesome there you go a little bit of from Deo rise from practice earlier today with the Texans um big big news being it seems like uh they're going to get a lot of good work uh in the joint practice but then de uh Damen Pierce is going to get a lot of work in the practice and maybe even game on Saturday it's in the loop right here on Sports Radio 610 coming up next we'll find what popping on the day according to Ron if the Texans want a Super Bowl they need to fix one glaring issue your running game can [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah w [Music] [Music] [Music] head to Walmart or visit straightalk.com today switch to Straight Talk less dollars more cents straight Savings Plan enrollment requires compatible unlock device and new line of service bonus device credit requires 12 months of active service offer ends of eligibility requirements are no longer met taxes and fees apply for Network management practices see straight talks terms and conditions the biggest stories in sports and entertainment Sports Radio 610 style in the loop presents what's popping that's right let's do a little what's popping live from Twin Peaks on uh Katy Freeway I 10 what is popping come see what's happening what's popping is that there's some good food coming we put in our orders can't wait to Grub uh you can come out you can grub right now a lot of folks getting some lunch and you can sign up for uh giveaways we got Will Anderson Jersey Town Edition we got jayen Petri football we're giving away Christian Harris uh helmet and maybe some tickets how about no no maybe let's give away okay all right OG decided we're giving away some tickets you want you want to come out see us uh sign up for that but when it comes to what's popping elsewhere M just Verlander Verlander will be going today uh excited to see that um what are you expecting from the man in his uh in his return well what I expect and and then what I want because those are those two different things and we might we might dig into this a little bit more tomorrow we got a lot more Texans to talk about today a lot of stuff Happening Here uh in in the last uh two hours plus what I'm expecting is Justin Verlander the one thing about him is that dude knows how to get ready uh for a and look I'm not trying to State the obvious here no duh but I'm just saying like he wouldn't be coming out here he's taking his time he knows what he needs to do to to get five maybe six innings in and and Adam Spain uh you know joined us earlier and you can listen to that whole thing on the Odyssey app and I thought he was tack on I thought like I I don't expect more I really don't even expect Justin Verlander to go five innings today and I know that's almost Blasphemous hey that's Justin Verlander but he knows he knows what he you know they're starting a stretch here where they're going to have a six-man rotation get your feet back under you if you can get four Innings out of him great if you get more outstanding but if you get four Innings out of him great and just keep you know keep them at Bay you know you're probably going to give up some hits maybe a run or two but keep them at Bay and then ramp up because you know the Astros are now in a situation where we're thinking postseason yeah you know we're thinking postseason so get get to the point where you're good there fig if you can get me cut too uh today or here because Verlander's going today with an opportunity to try and win the series because unfortunately last night this happened left field side this ball hit well the other way jiren Durant having himself at night has just given Boston a 6 to5 lead Duran on base for the fifth time tonight four hits in a walk and he scores his third run as he hits his 17th home run both home runs in this series have gone the other way into the Crawford boxes yeah six to five would ultimately be the final there uh didn't go very long for ronell Blanco in this one and that's something I want to dig into uh because we're traing into some territory for the starting pitchers that are young or or have not been regular starters that are a little bit not concerning but you you just got to kind of watch and I thought yesterday last night uh nothing to to panic about but some familiar little issues you know resurfaced with no bregman uh in the lineup L Yesterday by the way he's in the lineup today he is dhing not playing just yet but he will be in the lineup yeah so with no bregman in the lineup it really just magnifies no bregman no no Tucker you can't have an off Dave by yordon Yo yordon cannot afford to have a bad day and I think it was 0 for three uh because the bottom of the lineup Is Not Great uh you're going to maybe have some traffic but you're not going to have uh the Run production that that you hope so nothing to panic about but you you know you really really really really need to get these guys back Kyle Tucker more than anybody and bregman of course yeah and I mentioned ronal Blanco three and 2/3 Innings uh five earned runs from him so in this stretch where you're playing 18 games in 18 days you really need your starters to pick up as much as you can one fewer Bullpen guy cuz they're going to the six-man rotation to try and help this out as Verlander is coming back today I mean I know that he has not been you know stretched out nearly as much as you would hope but he's got to give you as much as he possibly can give me four man yeah I mean four would be nice if you can give me five I'd be even happy um so hopefully you can get that going um they also the Astros did signed or claimed rather off of waivers Ben gaml just an outfield you know addition uh not I don't know that he's there to do anything major but hopefully he can help you out in the Outfield a little bit I was looking at him his his slash line is not great over the entirety of this season he haven't played a lot of these games but since the All-Star break 286 444 uh on base if you can if you can do that right even if he doesn't have slugging which he does not like get on base give me some some of those things and then be confident in the Outfield and maybe you can help the S and you're kicking the tires on everybody you can in the Outfield uh Chaz McCormick is a problem and uh Jake Meyers you know pretty much entrenched at center field but you got to you got to have more offense so I think you're just kicking the tires on everything at this point so there you go um some other things that are popping the Texans signed a fullback Nick Bowen B Baldin B A wdn I realize that I'm I might be mispronouncing the man's name uh due respect to him and I do apologize what's happening with fullback here well they're thin at fullback um and I and I actually look at this if you weren't listening earlier kind of as an encouraging sign that you know tomorrow's going to be a big day and then they're going to kind of ramp things down uh and play a bunch of backups on uh on Saturday simply because like Nick Boden is not going to be uh a fullback on this roster I think we can probably agree on that unless he does something ridiculous yeah it'd be weird to bring someone at the very end of camp and be like here now you are the guy that we trust to do these things yeah but but it's it's a it's a guy that's going to have an opportunity in NFL Camp so you take it uh maybe put something on tape maybe do something in the game on on Saturday and turn some heads uh but I wouldn't expect this is this is for as far as the Texans of 2024 this is very much uh kind of uh not a a big move but but I think it's going to tell you they're going to play a bunch of backups Bon's going to get some time uh you know maybe you know some of these other guys are going to get some time and and that's just going to be for film purposes little bit of a negative news for one of the young tight ends on this squad uh Dalton Keane mhm uh unfortunately is been put on injur reserve after he tore his a CL yeah well that'll obviously end his season this year 25 years old drafted in 2020 out of Virginia Tech by the Patriots and now uh he was going through camp with his Texans team that's unfortunate for the young men it is very much so they they there is opportunity at tight end it wasn't a big opportunity for him but tigan ciano has been injured uh so now it's it's Brevin Jordan Dalton Schultz and Kate Stover by the way uh Kendrick green uh also was down uh today briefly at practice but did did end up getting uh getting back on his feet so we're going to have to kind of monitor that as we move forward as well okay so we we didn't get any we didn't get any further news but we will try and keep our eyes on that uh our guy spoke Adam Spain we talked to him earlier as you mentioned letting us know that Ryan Presley threw a bullpen today Joe spot said that he didn't think that he would need a rehab assignment and so that sounds like if we're trying to take that uh for what it's worth it sounds like when he's available or eligible on August 29th to make his return He will he he probably will which is going to be good it's going to be very necessary because that uh very back end of the bullpen is something that is trusted when you have them fully uh fully together and Ryan Presley is definitely a part of that um some other things that are popping on this uh on this Wednesday um we got a little bit of news when it comes to minute May Park not specifically but minute May Park is going to be host to a pool pool B game in the 2026 World Baseball Classic I mean how excited were you for the World Baseball Classic CL this past time that it came around I wound up more excited than I started like At first I was kind of like eh you know whatever we'll see uh but then I kind of got into it like I got into it big time uh and and this is this is really really big uh for for many M Parker and for Houston Baseball fans uh pool B of the 26 World Baseball Classic uh is you know right here in Houston you're going to have Team USA and Team Mexico that's going to go oh boy really well that's going to be a big time crowd uh every time they open those Gates and the fans are going to be absolutely uh nuts with it and it also had me thinking a little bit about what I mentioned uh during the Olympics with with the way that the NBA just helped itself so much in these Olympics uh whether it's individually Steph Curry LeBron you know their star Rising even more than than than they were were before the way the the country just embraced uh you know basketball all of sudden again uh in this country Major League Baseball's got to find a way to pause the schedule and get Major Leaguers into the Olympics in La they've got to they like you know you were asking the question off air a little bit about like what you know how how how much is baseball you know really on on your agenda on your radar this much outside of the local teams I think most Baseball fans even adamant Ardent Baseball fans will say not much you know not much I'll watch whatever the highlights I'll watch we'll talk more about that at 140 yeah let's get into and and maybe we'll revisit this because I think like major league baseball it is going to be a big time hassle to pause the season for the Olympics I think you have to I think you have to you got to figure it out hockey does it yeah hockey does it hockey schedule isn't as condensed as baseballs is like baseball has a wildly condensed schedule all the way through do you think that you can play baseball games even further like into November in that same way I think that ends up being a question that has to be asked no find a way and my answer is like oh you can't do that look what happened with the NBA look what happened to these guys look what happened to basketball in this country and other countries uh because of how big the Olympics were uh for NBA Talent across the world but especially for the United States uh baseball is is it needs it baseball needs that world you know that world I guess footprint even more and I think it gives you like as you talking about what what it did for those players but not necessarily on profile what it did for them like and their energy you saw the excitement when it came to not just basketball but all these different um different competitions like folks got up for it right there's a different level of pride in playing for your team and you see that in the World Baseball Classic I still vividly remember how excited I was watching Mike Trout sh Otani go up against each other yeah in that at bat I mean and when I say that at bat that sounds insane but I think a lot of people are like oh yeah I remember that exactly at bat those are the types of things that come together in a way that I don't know that you would be excited in MLB if they if those teams match if there's a couple of teams that match up where you have star with the Olympics but yeah if you if you have something like that World Baseball Classic alone was entertaining so where do you fall on that I think I think you have to I think you have to pause the month the season for a month get your major league baseball players into the Olympics and then you're going to benefit from from it I mean I like the idea I just wonder if if that's feasible to pause the the the season I do wonder if you would have to like do something almost like soccer does where you allow and I know they have international windows but at some point where you just kind of allow some guys to go in the midst of the Season you keep playing baseball games without some of some of your best players which I it would be wild in and of itself as well um some other things that are popping and this is I'm going to be a little bit um self-indulgent here please do um when I was growing up one of my favorite games Backyard Basketball in that Backyard Sports vein um and I I'm sure there's a lot of people that there you go I knew fig would know it's coming back baby Backyard Sports video games are back so there was it started we like a social media page I believe it was on Instagram popped up that seemed to have the similar imagery and people were like what does this mean ultimately playground Productions which is a company dedicated to uh familyfriendly content announced earlier this week that the video game series of the 9s and 2000 is indeed coming back and we we don't know necessarily if they're going to have the tie-ins as they used to have with like professional players they would have like I remember Kevin Garnett Lisa Leslie were in some of these but like the the names that you're familiar with Pablo Sanchez and everything my that game oh yeah Pablo Sanchez was a legend incredible that was my point guard he he he was my Carlos a Royo on my on my little team so no I I I'm super excited to see this and I do Wonder like you know when we talk about games sometimes we view this as like an entry point for the Youth into sports CU that's something that all these all these Sports uh leagues are worried about is how do you make sure that you continue to get younger Generations who have so much so many things available to them to interest them to be interested in the sports that you have and things like this I know for sure uh brought me the animation was outstanding it was fun I mean it wasn't necessarily like the most you know you know Innovative uh animation it was just cool and again I I lived this through my kids you guys lived it but I thought it was damn good figy you you picking up the backyard baseball as soon as it comes out right oh 100% man 100% man I I miss them days just sitting at a a computer we talk about old school sitting at a computer playing that game all day long day oh my goodness man yeah yeah everybody was super excited for that college football to come back I I think I might actually more little bit more backyard wild to believe but that's where we are here we go we're in the loop right here Sports Radio 610 having a blast at Twin Peaks uh I 10 and Kirkwood is where we're at I think our food just got here we might have to get a little bit of snacking in but we do 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a Super Bowl Contender you know you want to see okay can they be elite and then what are the barriers or the obstacles that will get them there well we talked about the defense let's talk about the offense which honestly it feels like those of the ball that uh The Outsiders but even folks that are you know are Texans fans or Texans onlookers or whatever you'd like to say are probably the most excited about is offensively but what what are the things that will make or break the offense being Elite this season you know I was thinking about this and you know I I've used the term aam's Razer before you know sometimes the most obvious answer is the right answer correct that is not the case in my view right now okay because the most obvious answer is oh running game man you don't have a running game you're in trouble sure I don't agree with that I I think if you're just okay they were okay running the ball last year 15th I think you talk about it like like like I would love to have Joe Mixon go for 1,200 combined yards and uh cam Acres you know show what he's shown here and and be a solid number two with 600 yards or whatever it is and and even whether it's Damen Pierce or or or Jordan jair or or Dar you know come in and spell him I don't feel the most obvious answer is is the answer when it comes to make or break on the offensive side because we saw it last year last year they were all you know they were okay and they were a passing team they ultimately turned into a a passing team correct and took the World by storm took the NFL World by storm I think the most obvious I mean the the make or break on this on this offense is right up front man I mean that's maybe a little obvious too but if Kenyan green is the deal you know if he is andrs I think is I'm aigan ofrs I think he's a b Shon is an automatic like he is just GNA be good if Titus Howard stays healthy and even if he doesn't Blake Fisher is ready to step in uh and laremy tunel we know what we're going to get out of him you have a you have an upper end I'm not going to say Elite cuz that's asking a lot but you have you have a high-end offensive line we're on to something yeah we're on to something as I was trying to double check as take a half step back looking at uh EPA kind of some of the advanced statistics um not I'm not going to drown you in them but I I like looking at EPA expected points average added rather and then success rate right how many plays uh how many of your plays ended up being successful further down and in both those categories Texas were actually bottom third last year running the football that's what I'm saying so I mean even even lower like 26th and 27th respectively so yeah I guess in theory you don't need to be great at that in order to be the good team that you were but now we're talking about a level of that's true and I think that if if you want to be that it definitely is the Run game but I think that we still end up in the same place cuz Deo Ryan's and maybe this is some level of defense or if you even want to be super critical maybe like hiding of uh Damen Pierce but he keeps pointing to the idea that hey man your starting line was not blocking up the way that you needed to blocking up the Run game you had unblocked folks in the gaps in the hole that you wanted to run into that's going to be an issue like your offensive line needs to be on their PS and q's and this this was an offensive line mind you though that was better at pass blocking last season like they were help by CJ absolutely but yeah the offensive line is going to be one of the big things and maybe you go hey Reggie of course that's obvious right like that everything starts in the trenches in these game but like you mentioned there you have guys in the interior of this offense that you I don't want to say you have questions about and maybe you can say that flat out but at you have concerns about in some ways you're like questions for sure okay yeah questions for sure cuz I don't think anybody's really convinced yet about Kenyan green no you know I I think you're getting convinced you know it's nice to hear what deo's saying about him every week so far but is anybody really convinced on on juice scrubs in there I am I I I I've been watching them during practice and these games and I'm not breaking down film I don't get me wrong I'm not an all 11 guy but all2 all 22 whatever you want to call it that's how much I know uh but no I I like what I'm seeing out of him so if that happens and then and know by the way the running game will be all right again like just by default if you have a really good offensive line it won't May doesn't have to be great but it'll be all right you know yeah I I think so like it's okay so we both ended up with the offensive line I think running back itself if this thing I think the 53 man roster and how you kind of square that away will pretty much settle that because I think the big thing with running back that ends up catching our focus is Dam because it feels like he's not maximizing the runs that he has available to him but it's also because it's in Ju the position with we believe that we know what Joe Mixon is as a running back flat out right and then you've seen cam makers kind of do some nice things in that regard you've seen and dar you've seen JJ you've seen J like you start naming all the other running backs that you saw at least make the most of the blocking that they had whether good bad indiffer or what have you um is there is there any other place outside of offensive line that you point to and you go that's a distinction or a factor yes there there is uh I I I think we have a good kind of base level of of an expectation at tight end yeah but you know this last game kind of really opened my eyes I was thinking I don't know man I you know dton Schultz is going to probably be a little less productive because of all the receivers uh you know Kade Stover okay but a rookie I don't think we can believe in Brevin Jordan just yet because he's been so up and down but then I saw Dalton Schulz be really showing exposing the the the middle of the defense you know in Saturday's game sof soft Parts zon getting the ball you know consistently from CJ strout and I saw Kade Stover running fullback and motion out of the back field and all this I'm like man I mean this is the old Patriots thing if you get two tight ends you know if you get two tight ends with a quarterback that's that's that smart like like CJ strad man it it could be we could be having a lot of fun we could be having a lot of fun and I feel funny because when we did this conversation yesterday when we talked about the make or break aspect of it we talked about the make right we talked about all the things that were good that were going to help this defense potentially be elite we started the offense today and we started about the breaks right but like the makes are all there right and tight end is an interesting one as well because and I wish figgy I wish I had hit you up with this earlier dton Schultz in some of his Med media availability a couple of days ago was talking about uh you know what this wide receiver cord does for him and it's because you have guys that can take the top off the defense they have so many people that they have to cons concern themselves with in the wide receiving core that now the tight ends can just they get even more space they go it goes from maybe being like five yards underneath that defense and now maybe you have eight yards underneath that defense that you get easy they're just giving you maybe even up to 10 gaping holes easy I got that a I got that audio by the way if you want Master producer figgy fig let me hear it big dude like when whenever you have like vertical threats like teams drop deeper linebackers now their hook drops are you know 12 yards instead of eight like it's it it affects it affects everything you when they feel that like vertical push the guys are trying to stay on top and when you got two burners when you had ni to that mix like the three guys can stretch the field man um so it it it opens up stuff underneath sometimes and in certain coverages and honestly like it creates space for for us in the backs and like I love having it cuz it's playing playing defense is like hard in practice cuz like they're in your hip all the time whether they're zone or man it's like it's frustrating and you get to some games and it's like teams are just spot drop and you feel that space you know what I mean and so it's very beneficial for sure so yeah the tight ends are going to get theirs for sure but again coming around to the makes it's obviously obviously this uh wide receiving core that honestly you look around the league and the you know a lot of people that evaluate this go that's the best wide receiving core in the NFL yes I dude what he just said there and and you know this I was talking about this after the game I mean it was like obvious like there were gaping holes behind the linebackers or or with the linebackers trying to cover in front of the safeties of the cornerbacks like I thought I I thought Dalton Schultz would have a reduction in in you know production this year yeah hell he might have a real big year he might have a real big year and then you go back to just like also they do it in different types of ways it's not just burners it's not just like rans they got all of those things I still vividly like seared into my brain against the Steelers that the uh tank Dell touchdown where he just puts his foot in the ground and I mean I had the Good Fortune to being able to watch that with uh with Pendergast with uh sterer and we we were all super excited hopping out of the seats like they have that type of ability in all sorts of different facets so no the wide receiving core is clearly that um we'd be remiss if we did not hit the easy point which is a quarterback in CJ stad that seems to have a command of the game well beyond his years that's what I'm saying and that that that adds to the tight end discussion to me because we all know I mean the the elite example is Tom Brady but it's not just him Drew Brees would use tight ends like that uh you know a lot of time I I think uh obviously uh in Buffalo uh they use tight ends like that when you have burners oh by the way Stefan Diggs was in Buffalo uh but you know it it it became so obvious to me I'm like man I had I was looking at this all wrong I was looking at this like it's a lack of production they might have an even bigger year and then the other part is if you get another one you know if when you go to tight ends and you have Kate Stover there I think that's going to be the top candidate like everything's wide open with these guys so you talk about make or break that that could be special with they have it tight end do you have any concern that like too much of a good thing is a bad thing in some ways right like you have a lot of mouss to feed and I know that um um Matt sha who was on a little bit um I know the chronicle got to sit down with him and just kind of asked him about obviously having Andre Johnson which is a fantastic piece but when you have that guy does that then maybe draw you in to trying to get him the football force him the football at times and that's clearly something that CJ strad is going to have to deal with he's said like obviously no and that's some of that might just be Andre Johnson is an Immaculate Pro maybe one of the the best of us but like yeah you have a lot of guys that you want to try and get involved you talked about Dalton Schultz obviously the three-headed monster Joe Mixon is going to get involved in there either handing the ball off but also throwing the ball out of the back field do you have any concerns at all about trying to like keep everybody Fed so to say I think I think you're kind of fooling yourself if there's not a little bit uh but I think also you you you temper that and I always do this who's guaranteed you I look at their contracts like because if you let the payroll dict yeah because if you're if you're Joe Mixon you got contract what the hell do you care as long as we're winning you know you you want your numbers you want to get your touches and all that stuff but you know then there's Stefan playing and I'm not saying this because he's an air air quote Diva or anything but he's playing for money yeah so he might you know so like he could at times I see what you're talking about if we're being realistic here it's the bottom line you know and so I I could see where Stefan and I'm not saying there's going to be a big I'm just saying because of his contract situation because he's playing for another one uh you got you got guys like Nico got paid he's going to want his touches but I don't think he's going to gripe too much if they're winning you know what I mean but they so tell me their contracts and I'll tell you if they potentially gonna be a problem and we'll talk more about this as we continue uh the show but I think this is where again buying becomes a big thing and and winning right winning of course right that's that's the ultimate Panacea right win and cures all but when it comes down to it like I think this is why at least for me it feels like it matters when all these dudes are celebrating When anybody on the roster is doing something when you know dudes third fourth string are doing things and these these guys seem to be excited for one another because that's hopefully you something that you hope translates so that when you do have the five-headed monster and one guy is it's one guy night to go off everybody is still excited for him and not necessarily in the mindset of okay but when do I get mine right and that speaks to the the what we talked about in the very first segment today like this team is so far advanced in terms of Polish and maturity I think they are very ipped you know to to kind of handle that and to understand the right type of guys the obviously you know obviously the right head coach that can can you know temper anything and then the the most important part is CJ strout like CJ strout nobody's going to say hey man you know in the moment they're going to say I got this guy you know throw me the ball but in terms of big picture stuff they're they're not going to be griping to CJ strad cuz he's going to get them the ball eventually you know yeah and so look clearly having when you have one of those quarterbacks at a high level you already then have an opportunity being Elite you've given him the the talent the tools to play with I think that again it's going to be if you can run the football and that starts up front and if you can make sure that that interior is not allowing like pressure up the middle right what we talk about with quarterbacks like that that's the place that they dislike the pressure the most right pressure if you're not allowing pressure up the middle if you're making sure to keep uh the quarterback protected yeah clearly obviously in this Bobby slowick offense year to real real opportunity to have um an elite year for the offense absolutely you you have a great quarterback too like I'm trying to remember exactly there was a couple it was a it was a training camp preseason uh video I saw it was a bad quarterback that couldn't get a receiver a ball and I'm like of course he's going to complain cuz he's not getting the ball uh but CJ St is going to get you the ball he sure is he will get the ball I mean we learned that very very quickly with that man all right it's in the loop right here Sports Radio 610 we're live at Twin Peaks right on uh Katy Freeway I 10 and Kirkwood is where it is if you need the address to put it in I know we talked about directions earlier 11335 Katy free just a little south of I 10 west that's right and we've got look we've got some giveaways that are happening out here so you want to come out and say what's up because there's a jersey there's a sign ball there's a signed football helmet and there's some tickets so you want to make sure to show up and say what's up but coming up next time to do a little uh lunchtime confessions all right let's go to the LTI Center like literally let's go first to [Music] [Music] low oh [Music] [Music] [Music] wowowow wow wow w [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] wow yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] Radio 610 I can get my Astro 6 anytime anywhere on the free Odyssey app yeah that's right download The Odyssey app now and don't miss a minute of the conversation Houston's Sports leader Sports Radio 610 sometimes it's Sports sometimes it's not whatever it is Reginal and John are keeping it real it's in the loops lunchtime confessions brought to you by Sagamore Spirit Ry Wiis this are confession let me start with a mini confession before my actual two confessions okay um I consider myself somewhat of a worldly man sure you know I've been lived in Houston for 35 years and uh obviously like uh every all the culture and different people that live here traveled the world been a very lucky guy I had no idea there were as many Nigerians in Houston as we are seeing since You' got here that's I feel like that's hard to do like Nigerians are we roll deep here dud like since you've gotten here like i' I've Just Seen A you know a bunch come up text you know guy fella just came up to you uh talking about his wife I guess is Nigeria one of our our our staff here yes sir said uh he's uh he's ebo yes I'm like I thought I knew a lot about Houston I had no idea was that big of a Nigerian Community we're going to we're going to teach you yet we're we're going to get you I'm in you know I'm in yeah yeah yeah the food's great parties LEL definitely partook uh in that no doubt about it kind of it's kind of rude right there no we're good I guess my confession is I am becoming friendly with the staff here PE they're eating off your plate all right so let me let me ask you then F fig I need you to be my Arbiter here all right so we just had a lovely lady that works here at Twin Peaks didn't ask walk over and she did not ask but she grabbed a couple of these uh mozzarella bites that are on my plate here um smiled and walked by and I have to ask you does that mean that you know does it mean that we're friendly around here or does it mean that I'm the mark am I the Mark is that what's happening you're the mark all right yeah you're the mark congratulations man I guess so yes she did I guess yes she did so there you go sign received yeah excellent and uh we we I got I got an hour and a half until until we can uh handle up on that that's right all right so here's my first real confession I saw this this morning and it just got me thinking uh one of our listeners jakara uh tweeted this uh she says I don't trust people who have four favorite sports teams in four different cities oh oh and she's on to something here here's here's my conf this is what I think well you know you talk to somebody you meet somebody at a party you sports fan which I don't I never asked that but let's say it comes up yeah and they go oh well I really like you know I'm a big fan of the Red Sox I love the LA Rams you know I'm just you know I do watch a little bit of uh uh of hockey and boy Montreal is my team and college football come on now Nebraska when I hear people say like when when I hear people say their four favorite teams are in four different cities I don't think they're really sports fans wow I don't think they're true sports fans I think they've seen what's a true sports fan then like they don't you know how can you live and breathe like just those examples you know Rams Char or excuse me Rams Red Sox Montreal and Nebraska I mean often times I will say I I I feel you in some ways because I I look and I'll be like huh they're paper fans that's that's odd but you know sometimes and I think a lot of times in fact you'll find that their stories there right like especially because Sports fandom a lot of times has there's no I'll give you one there's genetics and stuff involved in some ways I'll give you you grew up here and yeah you move around or hey you know my dad happened to you know went to this T you know this this this school or you know was lived out there for a while and he passed that's one I like I've I've met people like I'm a fan of this over here this over there and maybe three you know but go ahead I think the infamous ones is the people that's like Oh I'm a Yankees fan I'm a Lakers fan and a Cowboys fan it's I wonder why like all right yeah that's only Mo uh some of the three most popular teams in history yeah I don't trust those people okay I think long story short and by the way they that person stay in Ohio it's just like yeah right yeah exactly and they're big Ohio State fans yeah no I feel you like I can understand like not NE neily trusting them but I also look for me personally there's a lot of folks that I'm like you don't have to stick with them they that team not treating you right right and so with that I don't know how mad I could be at someone being like yeah I'm going for the easy I'm going for the I'm going for the the one that makes me feel good right I'm going for what makes me happy I don't know that I can necessarily be too mad at that um especially although like hey man you also have to recognize that at least for the period if when you were just you know fortunate as a sports fan which in in Houston right now there a lot of good that can doans for sure [Music] [Applause] yeah all right so speaking of being fortunate as a sports fan in Houston I was watching the Astros game last night and obviously in the top of the first give ronel Blanco gives up three runs and I'm like oh my goodness yeah and then in the bottom of the first the Astros like no that's not an issue they three runs back and I was like oh yeah that's right like this is a different place uh again uh to to open this up last previously I was up in the Dallas for Worth area they didn't do that as much no no um you know I'm I'm watching the Rangers a lot at that point and the Rangers this year stink offensively like they're they're not very good uh the way that they probably should be or at least the way they were last year and I didn't realize that I had scar they had scarred me you scarred I'm I the confession is I'm super excited watching to this excited to watch the team they can go get it when they need to and also it's like hell on the base pass man Altuve got on base stole second and sold third and I was like I love this so much that's my favorite part of baseball don't get used to Altuve being a good base right okay that's I appreciate that heads up but yeah man super excited to watch a team in the Astros that I know go get some runs so I was flipping around um the uh television stations speaking of old school doing that and um I was on ESPN too and I was watching I'm like man what what's going on here so they were doing a um Fantasy Draft a ESPN fantasy draft so you had some big names like Adam Sher Damen Woody Jeff Darlington people like that and they were actually making their fantasy football picks it was they kind of made it like draft style and I got I got to confess man I'm look I'm not the fantasy football guy but to me that looked kind of corny man do people want to actually watch other people pick their players and fantasy football I just not unless you're in the league yeah yeah exactly if you're in a league you might be interested like oh he likes him that much you know that kind of thing yeah like I I mean I don't want to sit nobody else uh see watching sit and watch somebody else make their picks like I I would do it if it was mine but to watch like to watch it on TV and the broadcast like that I thought it was a little too much man yeah I don't know I don't know that I'd personally be up for that but also like I'm on the boundaries of fantasy sport I'll dabble here and there like I'm not completely out on it but yeah it it doesn't end up being such a big thing to me so yeah that that that would definitely not but you know what like there's we're finding especially with like the democratization of the internet in ways that like there's there's a stream of everything there's streams of like kids unboxing toys that other kids will watch there's an audience for it apparently like there is an audience out there somewhere for it so more power to them folks yeah I'm not so sure I'd watch either figgy but I'd be interested to see if like shefer has some running back as a first rounder because all of a sudden he would know you know so maybe I can use the information or whatever yeah but I wouldn't necessarily see the thing is they they do have TV shows where you know they do break that stuff down saying well this is true yeah you could get the player in this round but this seemed like it was more of a ESPN office pool and they just and they just broadcasting I'm like man I don't care about y'all who y'all got y'all that's the worst thing you can possibly go through man somebody is Sting oh I got this person on my fantasy team yeah just like I don't give a damn about your F care that's a tried and truee uh the truism that I believe in is nobody cares about your fantasy team you care about your fantasy team nobody else car about fantasy team stop bring that up to me man watch this all right so I saw this mostly this morning are you cleaning off your shirt right now I spill food on my shirts all the time oh my goodness figgy how much do I spill Rego this is an ongoing thing with him goodness how much do I spill food on my shirt every day unbelievable it's it's very believable Lopez is clumsy man when I'm eating clumsy dude when I'm eating it's a it's a contact sport oh okay all right it's a contact sport uh all right so I I saw I saw this mostly today uh so don't go down the political path because it wasn't about that I just thought it was damn cool the most boring thing you get in either party at their conventions is the roll call the great state of milwa of Wisconsin says blah blah blah blah right dude they had a playlist for every state it was I downloaded it it was it was badass like like I forget what you know what it was last night because I know that's a polarizing thing and I don't care uh but uh they had like was it Lil John that came in for Georgia live yeah and he he performed live in doing that turned down for what they had uh they had everything from Leonard skill skinnard to The Killers Alicia Keys they basically were picking artists from that state and playing a song as they were doing it &m was for Michigan obviously Beyonce was for Texas Texas hold them if you're interested uh Kansas was Kansas like it it it was I mean I I like these good ideas like this that kind of make something immensely boring uh very interesting and I downloaded the playlist I'm going to see what it's like good for you I'm glad you got some extra music to listen to although obviously it seems like they're picking a lot of like the most obvious you know no but it's a whole the the spectrum of music is what I'm saying obviously um yeah look you got to do it when you made a boring thing into a TV produ product I mean like this this is what we've seen with the NL draft like I always call it an HR meeting right we're telling a whole bunch of you know young men that hey you are going to work in Houston and you're going to work in Philadelphia and you you're going to work in Seattle right like this is an HR meeting and so in order to make it interesting we got to have you know all of razzled Dazzle and similarly with uh you know the the national conventions the thing that I do like and I think commedian Roy wi Jr was talking about this on Twitter is like you will get a whole bunch of uh little facts like useless facts about the St and that is nice right it's like it's the state that invented the cream corn and it's like what really okay all right shout out to North from the great state of Wisconsin I don't know why I'm saying Wisconsin all the time you know yeah you must like quite where cheese curds is a you know whatever yeah they always get stuff like that this um I realized earlier today that um I really like the the warm I want I was about to say the hot but I mean I don't know anybody leg just likes the pure hot yeah uh because today when I was leaving the apartment I was like look it's hot out I'm wearing a t-shirt and shorts and I did not do any like thinking as to we going to be in Twin Peaks where they keep it pretty pretty chill and I've been cold all show yeah really I actually wore jeans and I was worried about it I I wish that I I I would much rather in this moment and tell me I'm crazy blank My Confession is I'd much rather be doing the show out right now well that girl might hug you she was eating your TOS you know I I like what you're doing was like it definitely down sounded weird but I I appreciate your attempt at solving problems you got anything else you got time for another one yeah yeah please this so I've been holding on to this confession for a long time man I'm listening so I I want to say it was like a month and a half ago I tweeted out I was on my way to work and I tweeted out that I was um in a Al Green type of mode and you know I was listening to Al Green in the car and the way to work and B Scott respond that said are you okay everything good I I was thinking like yeah man like what's wrong with listen to Al Green and then I thought about I'm like wait a minute like I know Al Green ain't the type of artist that you listen to when you sad that going through something so I got to confess I I kind of feel a little I don't I don't know how to feel man because I I listen to Al Green probably like five times a week man like something now always the re but yeah but he he made me feel like I I feel like I'm you in the place yeah like I maybe I'm this emotional guy now I'm just ain't nothing wrong with I mean I don't even get it Al Green got some slaps man where you ask dance to man I don't I don't go to Al Green when I'm feeling sad yeah what's funny for me is that I end up in that place a lot how just because I'm not or I'm less of because I don't want to act like I'm some super special person but I'm less of somebody who listens to music based on mood like quite literally how I listen to music is I'll go in my uh music streaming app and I hit Shuffle on my entire uh entire whatever comes up comes up and so if it's if it's a sad a sad song but I'm happy no problem that's not really something that's an issue for me and so there will be times that I'll be listening something they'll be like are you are you good like yes fine so I don't know if fig if that played into it for you as well is it just like even if it is maybe quote unquote a sad song it does not matter for your emotions you just here for the jam it do not matter man my playlist if I show y'all my playlist it's completely random man I would go from Al Green to 36 mafia to um to Leonard Skinner to Anita Baker so my playlist is all over the place but I was like man I never looked at Al Green the sad artist yeah that's fair cuz I I honestly hadn't thought of Al Green as a sad artist I'm might have to go and examine that as well but again I don't really think of Music in that way I was just looking at Spotify like I I don't get it that one I just don't get yeah when I think of s art I think of Adele I feel like Adele oh for sure oh yeah like n that would put my mood down a little bit makes you want to sleep in a closet but a beautiful voice just oh gorgeous Inc she the music you play at a funeral yeah wow wow wow not okay make you want to cry man every time listen want to cry but yeah man that kind of bothered me a little bit man I like how you're just so offended for the Reverend algreen yeah all right excellent shout out to B Scott uh making a little bit of a a roundabout way into in Loop as always uh there you go lunchtime confessions in the loop right here on Sports Radio 610 we're still hanging out here Twin Peaks right on it 10 and Kirkwood still got some giveaways going yeah we do all right let me see if I can rattle these off one more again uh Will Anderson htown Edition Jersey correct jayen Petri signed football yes sir Christian Harris signed helmet yes sir and some tickets to Saturday I got some good tickets for so look man you want to come out have some great food enjoy uh the the the eats drinks the scenic views say what's up definitely say what's up to me because I mean we' got a lot of people here but I'm not going to lie I felt a little a little ugly stepchild in this one because we we've only had a couple people come up and actually say hi now people are probably you know getting their food and getting back to what they got to get to I think they're intimidated by you n there's no way there's no way um so yeah come out say what's up and then make sure get signed up for these giveaways that we're happen having here coming up next uh do you want to start or sit a rookie quarterback Tom Brady has thoughts on the matter let's talk about that next yeah let's talk about the loan group the loan group at Keller Williams platinum as [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] la [Music] w [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] I [Music] dealer generators Super center.com Sports Radio 610 presents live from Twin Peaks off I in Kirkwood it's in the loop with John Lopez and Reginald atula you damn skippi it's in the loop John Lopez figgy fig and myself Regal atat Tula hanging out with you on a Wednesday in the great Greater Houston area um thanks for hanging out with us and thanks for listening however you're listening wherever you're listening thanks for making us a part of your day uh Tom Brady who is now a broadcaster but largely believ the greatest quarterback in n history he weighed in he joined uh Stephen A Smith on the Stephen A Smith show the podcast that he's doing or what have you I guess YouTube show um that Stephen A is doing and they talked about all all sorts of things it was at uh the Fanatics Fest that happened this past weekend and they had they did this as a live show and it was packed it looked like one of a it it looked pretty cool the bigger rooms that they had out there but amongst all sorts of other things one of the things that he weighed into was kind of this longstanding thought or question rather uh when you have a rookie quarterback do do you start them or do you sit them or like which is the better to go with right putting them uh setting them and throwing them into the fire immediately or letting them sit behind a a veteran learn some things before you get out there and so Tom Brady this this was how he kind of talked about that particular dilemma there used to be College Programs now they're are college teams you're no longer learning a program you're learning A playbook and the program is ultimately like in Michigan for me that was a pro style program 5 years I got to learn how to drop back pass to read defenses to read coverages to be coached I had to learn from being seventh quarterback on the depth chart to moving up to third to ultimately being a starter I had to learn all those things in college that was development then I went to New England and I was developed by coach belich and the offensive staff there I didn't start my first year I think it's just a tragedy that we're forcing these rookies to play early but the reality is the only reason why they cuz we dumb the game down which has allowed him to play it used to be thought of at a higher level we used to spend hours and hours in the offseason in training camp trying to be a little bit better than next year but I think what happens is discourages the coaches from going to deep levels because they realize the players don't have the opportunity to go to a deep level so they're just going to teach him where they're at a tragedy John Lopez you agree with uh Tom Brady I I get his point 100% I mean obviously he's a Football Genius there's where it gets interesting for me cuz cuz what he said was obviously accurate you used to have Pro style offenses you used to you know uh have this development under the center drop back pass all that good stuff and you would absolutely need development I mean without a without doubt now no matter what program you came from and he just talked about it he came from Michigan after 5 years and still needed that development here's where it gets dicey for me like he said like coaches just have dumbed down the off offenses well they've dumbed them down because it works because it's a different game now it's not it's more of the wide open put some pressure on the re receivers to to read the the coverages and make their things and know where the ball's going to be make their reads and know where the ball's going to be so while he's right it's not as complex in offense the quarterback maybe doesn't have I mean they have options you know go here first go there second still a lot to be done they're they're not like calling the game at the line of scrimmage like old school stuff but the reason they're not is cuz that's where offenses has G have gone this year and it works yeah you score more points you know right and I I think that I think that also there's a lot of situations where depending on how you feel about a subject you can you can frame the same thing and make it sound negative or make it sound positive right you can call it dumbing down the offense or you can call it simplifying the offense and I think that there is something to be said for things being being simplified um in the NFL in particular and I would kind of honestly uh quibble or with with the you know idea that this filtered down because the NFL was like hey we you know we don't have the people that are capable of doing it I think in some ways it's kind of filtered up that's kind of what I'm saying we saw that with uh with art bals also and I mean p n gr but like when you talk about like the actual football Acumen you saw him go from high the concepts he was doing at high school to now then being copied in college and then when the NFL looks around and says that's that's an advancement in the game they bring that up as well and so I think that that is somewhat that portion of it but when it comes back to like whether you start or not I do think that he has a point and he is right that there is less development that there there used to be so much more development and the reasons why is where it gets interesting because some of this is the players have kind of negotiated out some of the opportunities for de development for good reason right in order to develop you had to beat these players into the round with so much practice and drills and all these things in order to get that level of development so much of that has now been place on the players plates to go you have to handle this at home this is your homework you you make sure you make yourself a better player on your own time and when you come in here now we're worried about putting in the offense and putting in the defense putting in like the the you know the scheme but the actual development is Now Inc combing upon you and you've seen that also on the college level as winning becomes even more of a priority as opposed to development for the NFL I also think there's a very practical uh element here that that is is is has become incred much much more important uh than back in the old days the Practical element now is let's say you draft a quarterback in the second round not the first round because that's a five-year rookie deal second round so you got four years to find out right yes you're going to sit him for two the Practical element is you can't really do that anymore because if you sit a guy developing for two years and then you get into the third year of his rookie deal and he has a decent year yeah then you get into the fourth year of his rooky deal and you're like I don't know especially when you have the J position you have the J position of quarterback is commanding more and more of the percentage of the salary cap when you're paying them you know after the rookie deal and thanks to Sam Bradford the rookie deal is now a lot more manageable compared to that big money so these are the years we've honestly seen some teams lean fully into the idea that the way they're trying to go for a championship is to have a rookie on a on a quarterback on a rookie deal and then use that money elsewhere to make the rest of the team better and so I look I lean towards you start that player if if they're capable of playing right if if it's not a that's guy that guy's not capable of getting out there right CU if that guy's not capable of getting out there putting him out there is a bad idea Point Blank period but if that guy is capable of getting out there maybe you know there's a little bit finding you play him because of the monetary aspect that you're talking about as well and also I understand what he's talking about but I also don't know that we are guaranteeing that sitting a quarterback definitely makes them better I think Tom Brady would have been a great quarterback if he had started because as he's talking about he had a lot of development in Michigan he already was ready for that in some ways as well I just I just uh the times Chang man we all know that and even from the Tom Brady era uh and and he gets it obviously he's not not been out of the league very long but like if I'm a if I'm an owner and I'm a coach and I got a a rookie quarterback that I think is going to be really good and the clock is ticking and we still don't know for sure if he's good right that's a problem because they either either you're going to have a Daniel Jones situation you know where you're paying this dude $160 million and you still don't know if he's good or he might be great but then you don't have any money to pay anybody else yeah so if they're at all just showing hints of grasping the offense and and being being able to contribute then you play them and I look on the text line and again that number to get involved 71357 24610 from the 713 he said they're they're actually going so far against Tom Brady here by saying the this generation is actually more prepared than Brady's generation because you're getting kids and this is something that this leads into a whole another conversation the specialization at Young ages like kids aren't playing all different sorts you're you're finding them at seven years old like I'm playing quarterback I'm playing football and they have private coaches and they're playing seven on S and they're playing year round there's there's actually a lot of opportunities for development ends up being fun because a funny word because sometimes these guys are just kind of going and playing Techni a fication of it but at least they're getting a lot more experience than I think any at any time in the pass no no I think they are and and and it's been proven that the quarterbacks that have done the seven on seven from middle school on or whatever uh if you get the right coaching you're going to you're going to probably have better mechanics better footwork be a little more comfortable throwing the ball uh and all that that still doesn't get you ready for an NFL or even a college you know uh a a college system but the systems have been simplified and I'll go back to how this whole conversation started because they're successful yeah ain't no coach going to change the way they do things in the NFL if it's not successful you know the the the bleach influence the you know all these influences from uh West Coast offense if you want to go back to that uh and all that hell there's some run and shoot elements out there now you know in some teams you think they'd be doing that and simplifying things if it didn't work no it works so that's why they're doing it yeah and so the tough thing about it is that I ESPN put out a piece talking about the same thing when you talk about Bryce young and you know CJ Stout obviously ends up being the other side of the hey you sit him and I think again we can find success stories that started immediately and we can find you know failures that started immediately and I think likewise we can find success stories that waited to to be started and we could probably find failures of quarterbacks that were you know sat behind I think ultimately a good quarterback is something that is one the base talent and then two I think also the surroundings of them what what you have around them is going to dictate how they how successful they are a lot more than we' like to give credit me thinking a little bit here what was the last quarterback that sat for a couple of years and was successful I know momes sat a year Jordan love is talking was it more was it more than a year I thought it was just a year Jordan love maybe more love had a couple he ended up in that place that you were talking about where he was he was about to start in his what third season and we were like oh we got to figure out if he's good because you have to start deciding what the money looks like that's why you have to to find out on these guys so soon uh it's just a different world man it's a different world than than Brady grew up in uh in the NFL so I'm I'm all for it uh because all of a sudden you're going to have I think I think we're I think we have a good quarterback oh crap we got to pay everybody else now and him and thankfully that the Texans are in this place where they went with the startom immediately and it paid off I mean it paid off incredibly because we talked about them turning this thing around and part of that is because you saw immediately that oh CJ stra can do this at an incredible level so I I I disagree with a Hall of Famer and uh I do that kind of uh begrudgingly because you you it is Tom Brady but I do too yeah there you go uh we're in the loop here Sports Radio 610 coming up next final out of the show starts we still got some giveaways so if you if you're out there wondering hey can I still get in there yes you can get in here get your name in the raffle before we uh call it quits at 2 p.m. and hand over to the drive but coming up next are we guzzling too much of the red Kool-Aid when it comes to these Texans or are we all good let us know 713- 572 4610 we'll discuss it next according to run if the Texans want a Super Bowl they need to Fig [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he he [Music] [Music] n [Music] [Music] he [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] L FM ht2 Houston Insider access exclusive content sports radio 61 the Texas playay here an odyssey sports station Sports Radio 610 presents live from Twin Peaks off I 10 in Kirkwood it's in the loop with John Lopez and Reginald atula yes indeed we are live from Twin Peaks on katd freeway it's I 10 in Kirkwood if you need that address 11 or 11335 Katy Freeway yeah see I know what I'm talking about right there we go uh we're having a blast out here I just put in an order of some wings and let me tell you those grilled smoked Wings they do something to them hey hey Texas cheese steak is dang near Elite I had never had it here I've never had it here before that Texas Tuesday man yeah so swing by we got one more hour on the program and that means you got one more hour to swing by this location sign up for the possibility to win Will Anderson uh htown Edition Jersey yes sir jayen Petri football uh Christian Harris Helmet or you know maybe some tickets maybe some tickets for Saturday um so yeah you want to come in and a regie out of two little autograph yeah I can do that for you no problem I don't know if it's going to be worth the damn but I'll do that for you for sure know um but yeah we're excited it's an exciting time for the Texans and we have shown that we as a show are super excited but it it's worth you know being self-aware it's worth taking a second to look at it and so are we are we are we being drinking the Kool-Aid a little too much yeah I became a little self-aware this morning when we were talking about uh uh the show today a lot of people know this it's not like I'm I'm like whatever negative or whatever I I'm I'm not a big drink the Kool-Aid kind of guy you know I I try to be very honest about what is happening what I see what I think and and just go with it you know whether that's good bad or indifferent but I kind of feel like I'm trying to find the warts on this team and and I'm like there ain't a lot I mean there's some questions but there ain't a lot of warts so I I was asking you like am I this is not me but am I guzzling the Kool-Aid too much uh and and the reason I asked that is like any other team any other Texans team yeah especially that starts two rookies in the secondary yep I would be worried because we're looking at obviously Kamari Lasser and then and kin Bullock uh and yet I'm not and so I'm kind of like all right what what am I not seeing here but I think what going on is there's so much confidence in what I've seen them do on the field at practices and training camp and the preseason and and demo Ryan I'm kind of like cool two two rookies in the secondary no big deal yeah I think some of it also was just like we are we are working off of that intrinsic trust that you have already established in Deo Ryan's capability he's got bonafides already even as a what third year head coach like that's that's wild to consider um on top of that um the reason why and I know for me I'm fairly positive because look man I'm I'm descending on this upon this team now I've tried to watch it as closely as I can from afar because this has been a team of intrigue if you are a football fan all the way across but when you take a 30,000 foot view on teams I think you end up being more General and when you're General with this team it's easy to see the positive yeah great Young quarterback talented uh you know I guess skill positions although I always am tent to use that word because them big boys in the trenches they got some skill to them Man U but you know really talented skill position you've got you know potential defense of the player Defensive Player of the Year type defensive Talent when you talk about obviously Stingley is coming to that place will Anderson is an incredible uh defensive pass rusher denal Hunter has been in those type of uh categories so like you have all those things and it's like there's clearly things to be positive about and so that's my general disposition but then also man once you dig into the weeds there's some what should be yeah absolutely right it's when you get it's when you get uh the closer view when you go okay but here are the issues right you know all the good things here are the issues the reason why I'm a little hesitant and you guys let us know again 7135 72 4610 are we drinking too much of the Kool-Aid the reason why I'm hesitant to say that we are like definitively taking too drinking too much of the Kool-Aid it's a lot of the other folks the national folks but then a lot of the folks that you know cover football um they look at this team and they have some of the same you know Positive Vibes about it as evid by Diana Rini Diana Rini uh she works for the athletic she hosts the scoop City Podcast and of course longtime NFL um NFL reporter National reporter um she was on Dan Patrick Show yeah and Dan Patrick they asked her about you know maybe the the training camp as you know she's been visiting a lot of training camps the training camp that she's visited that you know she was a little bit um a little bit disappointed in and she ultimately said the Cleveland Browns right but then she decided to try add to that and I believe this is cut 11 figgy um that she she actually wanted to go to the positive side of the question I I would have preferred was what's the camp I went to where I went oh wow and that was the Houston Texans holy cow I know I knew they were good when I showed up I left like and look I went on a day that everyone told me CJ was unbelievable um but I just was watching going who is going so you're all in they're a Super Bowl Contender I am all in on the Houston Texans just based on what they're building okay something even simple and small this is tiny but this is important and it's been told to me by many people it's important in the big grand scheme of things when they make good plays during the preseason when guys are scoring touchdowns backups players that we may never even that see again in in the NFL the way the sideline the way the starters are running down into the end zone and showing that support because what that is that's culture right that's demo Ryan that's him saying we are going to be there for everybody on this team not just the superstars and I felt it when I was there I had conversations all of that that's positivity that's a lot of positivity yeah I mean I mean the the emphasis she put on oh wow like that's no I was GNA say been around the block that's not what I mean wow Diana Rini has been well that's still not good Diana Rini has covered a lot of football and she knows a lot of football and she knows great teams and she just came out of here like unsolicited not only unsolicited she you know she brought it up uh like contrary to what the question even was you know uh hey let's talk about the Houston Texas because they got something really really good going on down right and so like this is one but I mean I was looking at I believe the ring um they were talking about things and uh how will every offense perform in 2024 was the the piece that I was reading by sh capadia does good work as well around the NFL number one he likes the Green Bay Packers number two he likes this Houston Texans offense right like and you can go around in various um Publications and types things and see the Texans getting a lot of love and so I understand that again 30,000 foot view it's easy to like this team but I think that that's the place that exist in now are there concerns yes because you're in a salary cap sport that and that salary cap is there to try and create uh that level of parity and they do that by making sure that no team is going to be perfect everyone is going to have some level of wart or some level of weakness uh to try and balances out so you can look at the idea that okay uh as someone text it in on the text line Run game and run defense are a concerned absolutely okay I'm glad they did that uh because that that that's kind of where I'm like questioning myself am I drinking too much Kool-Aid talked about two rookies potentially starting in the secondary there is one proven running back sure one and you haven't seen him yet with until today I really haven't seen him in P yeah uh so that's another situation where any other season any other team any other environment I'd be like oh that's going to be a problem I'm not really feeling that's going to be a big problem like like they cam acres is shown enough you can maybe uh get a good you know a good feel for there a good backup uh so yeah no like there are in the weeds type questions but I guess because of everything else you don't really you know put as much stock into it yeah and so look I I I'm I still feel very positive but but like I want to take that step back especially because as we talk all the positivity you you heard uh Dan Patrick ask Diana Rini a to the terms of like Super Bowl Contender and it didn't I don't know that she sounded like she was like absolutely but she did say she was all in which makes I makes me Le or leads me to believe that she did mean yes to the point of being like Super Bowl Contender the one thing that like kind of stops that that makes me go okay maybe we're doing a little too much all of the predictors right when it comes to these things all the predictors when you talk about uh what's the record going to be you look at Vegas I think the the the number is n and a half I've saw I saw various I'm trying to remember what publication put one out uh just kind of doing a analytical through their through their um their formulas or what have you and they gave it like a 9 point n and 9.8 wins is what they figured you're seeing a a 9 10 wins still which you don't think inherently is a Super Bowl team but like again that's the one thing where I go okay are we getting a little too over our skis because we may be talking about them like they're a 12 or 13 game team but it seems like folks are still putting them in that 910 range looking at the schedule I I I I actually think that's kind of of a compliment okay uh and the reason is uh this might be the toughest schedule the Texans have ever had like ever they've had first place schedules before but you know we're talking uh Green Bay and Jordan love Indianapolis Colts you know who knows I think they're going to be a threat Jets Aaron roders Detroit uh uh golf uh Dallas Dak uh I mean Miami Tua Kansas City uh momes Baltimore uh with Lamar Jackson they've got some quarterbacks there facing so if you're going to tell me they're going to win 10 games with that schedule that's a compliment yeah you know and still like we we we didn't get a chance to really dig into it but this division is going to be interesting but I also don't know that I could put any of these other teams where I feel confident that they get 10 wins and so if you go into if you go into the playoffs and of course now we're really ahead of ourselves but if you go into the playoffs as a division winner you still have a good shot of doing something special and so yeah man I look I we maybe maybe we are right like ultimately maybe I go to the place where I go maybe we are maybe getting a little too ahead of ourselves in some ways but one it's a time of year to do it and two it's not like we're doing this out of thin air there's good reason from what you look at when you talk about training camping practices in these games and just like the bonafides of the players that you even brought in there's reasons to think the way that we we are right now and and there's validation it's not like some fan that has only read a couple of things online but is excited saying oh yeah they're going to win a Super Bowl or they're they should be a contender no it's people that are in Camp in every Camp around the NFL and can compare and contrast right and they're like no man the Texans are real uh that that's the validation you get from from the things that I'm seeing yeah I'm right there with you so like may maybe we are drinking too much of the Kool-Aid but as of right now it tastes good and honestly imagine right take yourself back a year a year ago I'm interested John how were you feeling at that time because again I just I mentioned uh like an hour ago the idea of everybody was laughing at the Texans for trading away that first round pick in the next year because they thought that this team would be the worst of the worst and it turned out no that's a pretty good team no it's a very good team right and so how did you feel in that moment because I I don't know that you were did you feel like you were drinking the Kool-Aid no no that that's why this is so uh interesting to me how how I'm playing it here because like obviously we didn't know we we liked what we saw but we didn't know uh about CJ strout but go well beyond that I mean you know clearly you you talk about some of the receivers that were Nico hadn't done Nico things you know he had tank Dell was a rookie looked very very impressive but he was a rookie no not even close uh to how we're feeling here and if you want to go back a little further and we mentioned this a little bit earlier like from where they were you know two seasons ago to now it's one of the most remarkable turnarounds that you'll ever see in terms of just perception within the league you know all right look maybe we're drinking the Kool-Aid maybe we're not but look I'm excited fun Seas of Tex football and you should be excited for an opportunity to win some things that are associated with Texas football um so yeah come out hang out with us here sign up for our giveaways we're still here till 2 p.m. but coming up next here on uh in the loop we got to get into figgy mixtape fig figgy what we got man we got different forms of delusion and I'mma play some and play some audio and talk about some delusion that I just want to know if I'm if I'm in the right place of mine when it comes to delusion or no all right we got that next the Texans Clos down the preseason at NRG Stadium against the Rams on Saturday [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he he [Music] [Music] [Music] w w [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah new episodes every week on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast Houston's Sports leader Sports Radio 610 pass the oxx cord and crank up the volume figgy figs in the driver's seat sit back relax and enjoy the ride it's time for figgy's mixtap on sports radio 6 yes it is figgy figs mixtape on sports radio 6 happy hump day to everyone out there and the theme of this segment is delusion I've been seeing a lot of delusional people out there on social media probably the last 24 hours and I'm going just run down the list man so okay uh delusional guy number one I know you guys been seeing this whole uh flag football debate if NFL players can play in it and all this other stuff it's a man that been kind of the guy in the front that been talking about this his name is darl or derell duett yes and he's a quarterback and he been he he been having some strong words saying hey I know y'all athletes but hey this ain't the same so I I got something to say I've been doing this for a minute and he has he's he's the quarterback of the Team USA flag football team he's he's been uh running it for a while in fact I think 2018 they did a flag football players versus former NFL players in a flag football game and the flag football players won so like sen Wallace and his boys got out there playing with NFL guys they lost to him that name a long time you're welcome by the way but he has some things to say about uh so he was talking about Patrick Mahomes oh no oh yeah nobody else he went there I want to know is he delusional here you go at the end of the day I feel like I'm better than Patrick Mahomes because of my IQ of the gang I know he's right now the best in the league I know he's more accurate I know he has all these intangibles but when it comes to flag football I feel like I know more than him is my man delusional okay that's like I I I know I'm I'm older I know I'm a little overweight uh I know I'm not the best looking guy in the world I know I'm not the smartest guy in the world where was I going with this that's what I heard that's what I heard like where where was I going with this uh no he's not I just a man you got to pick somebody who you're not in a losing battle with like he immediately started with some if if somebody wanted to try and hear you out you made it really difficult by picking Patrick Mahomes like the I think the dude that Drew uh our guy whoos is his nickname is who uh Mr duett um I think that the person that Drew his ey was jayen Herz cuz Jaylen Herz got out here talking like immediately like he was going to be the dude who would be the quarterback uh in the Olympics in 28 when flag football came through and that made my boy mad because he was out here like hey wait you can't just assume you going to take my job you going to get out have to get out here and earn it yeah If he if he has that same um same statement but he says Jaylen Hurtz do you think that works a little bit better cuz I think that goes over I mean maybe it does for some it it wouldn't for me and here's and here's why like I'm pretty good at pickle ball I'm pretty good not I'm not great but I'm pretty good you think cuz I know the angles I know how to do it you tearing up raing the doll I'm not going to sit here and say I'm better at pickle ball than Patrick momes because if Patrick moles just learned a little bit of what I know he would kick my ass so that's what he's saying yes he's good at flag football because he knows how to play flag football you know there are certain intricacies of the game that are that are you know unique to flag football how you play the game where you go Etc so as soon as Patrick home give him a week give him a week and he'll kick your ass you might be being a little disrespect no give him a week give him a week he'll kick your ass yeah see and see I and look I I kind of understand what the gu's coming from because a lot of people assume that anybody that play in the NFL could just beat beat good in flat football and I understand that's not the case you can't call out Patrick Mahomes like that man that's that's that's like people so in the Olympics they had the three on three basketball that's like somebody playing in the three on three basketball saying you know what yeah Micha like yeah I got I got Braun yeah I'm better than Braun he can't get this three on three yeah man like I know it's a different game but sometimes some athletes can just do anything I I I put Patrick Mahomes in that category of yeah if he if he can get a week or two he can be a beast yeah man help yourself out a week give him a week help yourself out don't go after the dude that is like there there's so many people that you you can find a debate on like who if they're good or not Patrick Mahomes is one of the few things in honestly American life that we all have largely come up with the consensus on that we're like no we agree right there's not very many things in American life that we're like we agree across Lo many different lines Patrick Mahomes is one of those things he was like nah better than that what are you doing I'm better than that my IQ in flag football is better than that buddy like all you doing the week so my man is delusional right 100% absolutely all right so I'mma go to my man number two so um I seen this so this video is a couple years old this is um from Undisputed with skip Bayes and Shannon Shard rest in peace of that show but um this clip was so funny to me because sometimes you know Skip Bess he could be a little delusional at times yeah and so he was sitting there pretty much with a u a NFL Hall of Famer uh a a Super Bowl champ Pretty much telling them he no you don't know what you talking about in this game here's here's Undisputed right now if you look at the Christian Kirk first touchdown when they pitch it DW has contained can I get that skip I want you to show I I want to show this pull this up for me why is he inside he has contained how do you know that I I think you can't know that seriously I think you can't know that unless you interview those people and find out what the defense call let me tell you what let me tell you never know you never know I know this cuz I've been doing it for a long time and if I that back in the day somebody could come to me and say you have no idea what defense got called there just for the record SC bis are you telling me my 14 years of playing this game I'm saying you never know you never know I know I tell you what to do I tell you what to do if I'm lying if any Cowboy player say Shon sharp you don't know what the hell you talking about write it okay write it you don't know you can't know you can't you just can't you're upset you want Mike no G I know what they're doing is wrong you can't tell me you C it I was in the hle okay I was in the locker room I was in the meeting room you weren you were not in this huddle and you weren in this I know that defense Shannon you were not I know that defense you do not know that defense you have no idea what got caught oh my goodness is my man skip Bess delusional right now just going back and forth with a 14-year vet of the NFL who's a Hall of Famer who WS a who won a Super Bowl is my man delusional right now the short answer is yes but I'm just sitting here thinking you know it's amazing that show didn't work out you know it's pretty was that was pure entertainment I had forgotten how much I missed uh Shannon sharp yo skip um I just kind of not he's kind of not wrong though no no no he has a point he has a point but he is wrong I think that there you go short of short of seeing the play it was probably just some basic you got to contain right you know uh and Shannon was probably there I ain't never been on a team where you didn't contain there the knowledge base was was such yeah I mean Ian if if he was talking most anyone else I think that the point would have been able to land a little bit better which is you don't know what the play call is sometimes there are different designs that we may not be able to tell and that's something that we always have to be careful about when we are armchair QB and evaluating these things no no his his his concept of of his point was right I wouldn't have went that hard at St a sharp about it though but like if if if I'm just thinking if it was that obvious and Shannon's like come on that's you give it to Shannon you know give it to Shannon being a person that's like I I don't want to get I I don't like calling people out on their jobs or anything like that if you if I'm we work around a whole bunch of people that played in the NFL if they telling if we telling if they telling me that no this was the play I I remember seeing this I've been in the game for this amount of years I'm going take I'mma take a backseat I'mma take a backseat but skip Bess was like you don't know what you talking about you don't know you don't know and the thing about it is is like I think in that instance yes the point is that he he might not know absolutely but he might know 95% and 95% is good enough in this for our services you know so yeah I he we can go ahead and put skip bis into the delusional pile as well all right delusional guy number three and I'm sure this this this one actually has some local ties to it and if you wasn't on social media um you missed a lot because um in case you didn't know calman there did a uh a Ama on he did pretty much asked me anything and it's it's always pretty cool when he do stuff like that but um uh uh uh a person from somebody a Titans fan pretty much who runs a podcast I ain't going to say the name of the podcast it ain't worth it yeah they don't need that burn yet yeah but um this person that runs this podcast page for the Tennessee Titans um pretty much retweeted the picture of cal um of Cal with the football and all that stuff in the caption said H is up htown I I I know you guys heard that term before right yeah yeah H is up htown so this guy tweet retweeted that and said look at this so many Texans fans cry about the Titans stilling culture telling Titans fans for years that Titan up is the worst Logan in football yet here are the Houston copycats once again using H's up you mean like Titan up for team and the fan base that cries about culture stilling so much just to be Kansas City name using Titan colors want to be generic looking Atlanta Falcons hes up sounding ass franchise does the Texans franchise ever come up with anything on their own he did start to try and cook there a little bit I'm not going to lie however let me get this right it it is he trying to claim or they I don't know who are they trying to claim that the word up has been claimed by the Titans or it sounds like how different you cannot use the word up or else the Titans will come for you at least H is up has an actual visual like H is up yeah put put the H up yeah yeah what is tighten up I have song AR it's a song by Archie Bell in the drill it's actually very good I think that you should listen and and and like this this is about as delusional as you can get yeah that's wild what nobody talking to you right now yeah and look and look we've been having the whole back and forth about the uniforms and the Oilers and stuff like that and I ain't going to lie look I I feel like when they talk about the the uniforms and the players and stuff that is theirs technically that's theirs so I ain't got no push back to that that's technically that franchise but let's not let's not take it this far y'all so you ain't create the word up so so if that's the case so George Jefferson moving on up that's y'all yeah that's where it started cardi B is up cardi B if it's up then it's stuck that they take it from it started baby man this got to be the most delusional fan base I seen and I I don't like to call out a whole fan base but tighten up you think we we think the city of Houston was sitting here like o tighten up you know what let's use H's up let's take that from the Houston from from the Titans yeah give me a break that was so delusional man I agree too that's stretch man that's too much of a stretch brother that's all I got man up yeah tighten up and I what's funny is I actually like tighten up I feel like that's a cool little hashtag yeah I mean hey I'm old enough to remember the dance to tighten up absolutely I may have danced the Titan up oh I Need video at some point um yeah cuz there's there's other teams that do various UPS like don't don't don't the Chargers do like uh bolt up or something like that I don't know if that's I don't know but but there are there are other yeah they didn't event that so that guy was stretch arm trying to get something out of that man yeah all right well delusional number three do we did we go three for three on delusions we did we sure did it was it was a delusional 24 hours man we we got a do we have like a an outro on figgy uh mixtape or we good here um I'm actually looking I'm actually looking at uh videos of the Titan up from back in the Archie Bell and the DRS I love that song so very much I'm a big fan from Houston Texas I didn't know that that's right that's right okay man this this city has given so much culture to the world you're welcome world yeah uh figgy Smiths tape every day at 120 at this time and I will talk to y'all tomorrow there you go figgy mixtape you leaving must listen must listen right here on sports radio 16 you're in the loop coming up next uh baseball is on the TVs here where uh at Twin Peaks and Verlander is on the mound uh but just in a more General sense are you enjoying baseball or are you enjoying watching baseball as much as you have in the past cuz there's some numbers that maybe could uh lean into that idea we'll discuss it next new co-host same old Lopez [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] e [Music] he oh [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] wow [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] Sports Radio 610 presents live from Twin Peaks of I 10 in Kirkwood it's in the loop with John Lopez and Reginald atula appreciate you hanging out with us all day long in the loop Sports Radio 610 John Lopez I'm reg I I'm here for you buddy figgy fig we just got through figgy mixtape enjoyed that quite a bit just a little bit more time for you can come and hang out with us 11335 Katy free you like that I do I put a little time in remembering what the address was so I should probably use that Twin Peaks always here for you with eats drinks and Scenic views and on the TVs a lot of the TVs big TVs all around here Astros baseball happening currently Down 2 to one to the Red Sox Verlander throwing a lot of pitches about 43 4 four through two innings what did spoke give us as a potential top end 50 75 rather I think so uh I think he really you know I agreed with this uh you know give me four Innings and four Innings might be about the max right now yeah man um he's currently trying to get through the second all good they're only down got the top of the second so um yeah they're only down two to one you saw bregman in his return from his little elbow thing sent one yard so that's good picked up where he left off and so yeah the Astros down two to one so in in the individual obviously this this is exciting baseball to watch and this especially this stretch that the Astros have been on really uh finding their bats finding their stride again and getting a lot of wins giving themselves a nice Gap in the AL West which is funny because you think about it and there's a time where they were down 10 games and now they have the possibility to probably be the first team to clinch yeah their division obviously in part or in large part because the rest of the division is boo boo but yeah that's that's such a wild turnaround so it's been fun watching this Astros team as like an individual however I I have a question like are you enjoying watching baseball in general and and look okay so we are so much of an outlier in Houston or as Astros fans wherever you are because what they've done has just made this city watch everything I mean you you have to watch the Astros like it's just a must because of the last seven years that that is not the norm around the country hell even even even in the Metroplex like they won the World Series yeah and I can guarantee you that place doesn't get full I guarantee you the TV is ratings are not quite the same for sure um and and the buzz around town well of course it's Cowboys town but last I heard anyway it's a Cowboys town that might be changing uh but anyway like forget the Rangers even like in most baseball cities it's like it's it's a Pastime it's it's what they say it is it's National Pastime hey you want to go catch a ball game yeah sure hey how'd the team do last night I don't know I didn't watch uh you know so it's like one of those things why it's a mood you know you want to watch baseball it's not top of Mind whereas we consume the NFL and college football like we have to consume it and especially like as a national product it's funny because baseball I I my personal belief is baseball worked best as a regional product it's why we have 162 games because you follow your team you follow and you learn a little bit about most of the teams around the league through following your team exactly and it works regionally but now baseball understanding the world that we live in trying to make itself more of a national sport um I'm wondering how well that's going to Fair because we're seeing an some interesting Trends in baseball MLB is seeing that offense is down this season but not just the season like it feels like it's trending it's trending downwards that's right and it feels like that trend is as opposed to maybe just being a blip on the radar as sometimes happens in any there's going to be fluctuations up or down this might be a closer to like a new reality and I'm wondering like is that allowing people to enjoy watching baseball as much as they previously had because it is but particularly offense and it's not it's not just bading percentages right when we think about the um you know change of Swing angles and those types of things as people are trying to go go for the fences as opposed to maybe put the ball in play average is down but then also power is down as well and those numbers are somewhat mirrored as well by the Astros um you're seeing that same thing happen with the Astros as you're seeing on the larger scale um the Astros still seem to be able to put up runs at least in this stretch you've seen it go back but like are you enjoying baseball in general because I feel like this trend might change the level of enjoyment possible baseball is a game that isn't the most exciting and flashing and you need that offense periodically to make it to give you that that inry I I I think it I think it's not being enjoyed and and I I'm being honest I I don't enjoy watching any national games I used to be plugged into the national games Sunday Night Baseball I used to be plugged in but here's why like you have I said all that about the Astros to basically say set them aside yeah like like set the Astros aside they're like the the Iowa women's basketball of of this league I feel you know what I mean like like they Iowa women's basketball fills up their Stadium everybody's plugged in can't miss a game that ain't how women's college basketball is the reality is like National Baseball is not as interesting as it used to be it's just not I think there are ways to repair that I think they're working on ways to repair that but you you you kind of you you you you kind of be fooling yourself if you think boy this is an interesting product when all you're watching is NFL college football college basketball NBA some of these you know these unique sports that are kind of taking over uh on our televisions and stuff extreme sports all that stuff that's not interesting to by and large uh to most Americans baseball is not as interesting by and large to most Americans I I me all right let me go back to this cuz do you agree with the premise that like baseball needs offense at as much as possible to be interesting because that that ended up being a big uh thing in the last decade or two about baseball was because it felt like for a lot of purists that baseball gave it soul up in order to um you know establish and substantiate that offense that you offensive uptick that you saw in the steroids era and immediately thereafter um but now you're getting to an Era where you're seeing Le you know that off or that offense kind of decreased and I know that for like a purist or somebody that like loves the game that hit back uh pitcher hitter kind of interaction of what is the sequence what is what is the are you challenging him what are you throwing him like all those things matter but I feel like for the average viewer that's not where you tap into baseball you tap into baseball on the base paths yeah I I I think speed EXC all that stuff cuz you know they for a while there before they they went back and kind of you know manipulated the shift and all that stuff and Pitch clocks it was a home run game that was boring like like it was home runs and strikeouts it was home runs and strikeouts and that's about it uh and yeah there was a lot of scoring and when you see it you're like oh that must be an exciting game no it really wasn't fun to watch I mean unless you're the Astros again set them apart because they they're they're in a different category but I I I just I I just feel like baseball on a national scale is maybe never going to be what it once was because the the the the competition is so strong and it's just not an interesting product for the generations that are coming up now I I said maybe there's some things that they can do to fix that I I think and I mentioned this earlier I I think they should take a take a Quee from the NBA and when you're cheering for that American flag man you start learning everything you can about the players and the game and everything else oh you're back to this Olympic thing I think that's one I think that's one of the solutions uh or at least to help become a solution um and you know what like I uh the idea of trying to find time in the middle of a season because it's a you know it's a summer summer league are you going to be able to find time in that summer to allow for the summer games or for players to go exist in the summer games and I think the schedule would be impossible if you're doing 162 games where you get interesting is if you are willing to pair back on games and I do wonder if pairing back on games is just something that would be necessary for baseball in general when we talk about but I just don't know how you do that because that that's inventory and the inventory is how what helps them make generate the money that they have when they sell to these TV um products as well because you have things that you have more and more uh advertising uh you know avenues for these uh TV stations or whatever that are buying your product if you're selling them 20 fewer games does that then per team right does that then cut into your uh there is a way there is a way to do it there there because if they can suspend the season for a month and put their best players uh in the Olympics the entire country is going to be so plugged into USA baseball just like I mean just take a queue from the NBA like it changed the way people look at the individuals and the game and where this you know where the you know where where these teams these players are coming from Etc like just don't have an Allstar Weekend one year uh the Olympic year and extend it by two or three weeks you know yeah and and maybe extend the season it's worth it but even just setting that aside you know baseball does have some issues in terms of just uh being interesting uh on a national scale and I I don't I want to be careful to not go too far on this baseball still exists in a pretty big place right they still generate a good amount of money like they're on par with the NBA exactly when it still comes to like making money so I don't want to make it I don't want to to the place yeah but I do think that they have something interesting that they're having to contend with and you know that they're actually contending with it because you've seen the ways that uh baseball has tried to make itself more relevant and I appreciate like some of the new Chang that they've had to try and speed up the game and maybe and you know get folks back on the Bas pads I was talking about with a you know technically a safety measure but maybe something that helps when you make the sizes of the bags bigger I just don't know when it comes to the actual like hitting portion of this which is the thing that we're talking about the trend down and hitting that we're seeing over baseball I don't know that there's rules that you can do to incentivize hitting to get back like there's definitely ways you can incentivize various things and we know that they're trying to get like uh trying to incentivize starting pitchers longer with that rule that's being floated out there of possibly Mak I kind of like that actually you like the idea of like a having a play uh six Innings at first I didn't because I was looking for all the exceptions oh what if he gets hurt what if gets rocked you know what if uh this or that and they have some some things you know uh safeguards if you will to for those things and I I think it'd be pretty interesting and and you hit it like not only is do I think and you think and a lot of people think that baseball might not be as relevant in terms of entertainment value it's still relevant I'm with you let's not try to get send the wrong message here uh but relevant in terms of Interest especially for nearer Generations um I with you that it's it's definitely you know hurting there but they're telling us it's hurting there they've changed rules they've implemented a a pitch clock they've brought in you know the shift rules they're talking about a starting pitcher having to go six Innings just so they can have more of an identity you know with with starting pitchers and and and more old school interesting uh baseball so it's not just you and I saying boy it's not what it used to be in terms of entertainment value for for the masses they're telling us that right well thankfully at least you you started us out by kind of separating the rest of the league away from the Astros and the Astros have been damn fun to continue to watch throughout this Verlander just getting out of the third so he's he's making his way through this man like thankfully he's he's seeming like he will give us the four they call it battling B battling battling for sure um from the from the 346 on the text line they said I think you're absolutely correct Lopez for all the fair weather fans that come around in October they really don't have any interest in the regular season B uh fair weather fans it can be boring during the regular season the Olympics would be a great idea cuz we know Japan Puerto Rico and there's a lot of competitive countries and you you've got you got a little bit of that effect with the World Baseball Classic but here's my here's my thing about and I think this is where you're right where the Olympics differ from the World Baseball Classic World Baseball Classic is a lot more Niche oh big time you're in it you're in on it if you're in on baseball the Olympics is I like to call it sport sports for folks that don't like sports and so everybody comes to the table and then when they're here they get a little bit of all these things and maybe baseball can bring some more folks back to what was what has always been America you see you want to see major league baseball players play Cuba in the Olympics hell yeah I do sure sign me up yeah get an opportunity to see yordon do something in a different in a in a different perspective as well terrorize America right back that'd be hilarious so there you go man uh just I I found that interesting because those those numbers would seem to indicate that we're in a place where offense is indeed going down in this thing so there there you go uh let's welcome in our fellas from the drive Clint Ron how y'all doing today fellas what if we wern't ready to be welcomed in yet you wer ready my bad you want me to go back you want me to talk about something else good we're good man you're having a good time out there you you had one of our favorite spots now buddy we are having a blast good eats uh we we a drink nothing though uh we know we we we're we're tea tolers today or water in my case I will say this fellas um I y'all are y'all are the kings of Twin Peaks you ain't never had camera angles like we've had camera angles mhm just just read the text board oh just read the text baby you got background background music all I know all I know is we've got some listeners that are absolute pigs I know you got one I know oo is back there trying to get you to position position the camera a certain way he hey Ryan can you position that camera out just a little bit better there's a little chocolate magic walking behind you I need to see nasty absolutely uh so one of the things that we also saw out here was that uh we were talking to our guy Scott right and our guy Scott has a really sweet Jeep out here in the the love you Blue got the logos and everything on it and that got us asking like what's your uh what's the old school thing that you still do I use north south east and west right like I still I still will prefer to go pick things up in store as opposed to get them mailed and all that type of stuff some people are using cash do you fellas have something that's like oh yeah I still do this and that's old school I got a bunch of them cuz I'm old okay I got a bunch of them I prefer I prefer writing things down on a piece of paper with a pen versus taking notes in my phone um I can see that I do prefer in fact I ain't going to lie to you my wife annoys me a little bit with the with the HB scheduled pickups I like to go in the grocery store and pick things up and make sure um my man I mean mean damn but I'm I'm 46 hell I can rattle off few of them what you got for me I I I check all the eggs I roll oh there's nothing wrong with I old school but but I've been but I've been there and I've been there for about 5 minutes and I've gone add that to the list of things I can't do because my wife wants to pick them up yeah right exactly right what am I supposed to do if I open up the carton and six of them are cracked ain't nothing me and figgy me and maybe these ain't old school things me and figgy talked about this not too long ago I I make sure I turn off everything when I'm getting gas oh okay okay AC everything I still and I still keep quarters in the Crown Royal bag okay I like that I see what you're doing there dirty red you don't still eat your boogers though I don't eat my boogers anymore I did that took that took a hard lab foron about it took a hard laugh right there proud that you're not doing thatas you want me you want me you want me to pick anything up for you before I head back that way when days are over for me you better leave them all there excellent well nipple hey she listening fantastic but you guys make sure to do some good broadcasting you're listening to klt klt HD2 in Odyssey sports station and Let Me Tell You Folks the drive is live yeah the drive is live and uh thanks for the handoff the fellas at uh Twin Peaks they should probably sit around and have another drink or three just enjoy themselves why not um we'll get you updated here the Astros are trailing 2 to one right now but uh Alex bregman is back Alex bregman however he is not playing in the field he is dhing today but back in the line up leading off with Jose Altuve uh in uh in the lineup or not in the lineup today at second he led off today and let this sucker off with a Brey bomb can I can I can I can I hear that bad boy can I hear that bad boy he let this thing off and I was I was wondering I was in the car I ain't heard it yet I was wondering I know it's I know it's August August is his month and uh he had five home runs in 12 games in the month of August and we know he's missed the last five games but uh it's uh it was a one to nothing the Red Sox were leading and then Alex Brigman came up to the plate lead off hitter against Criswell and he drills one to left field that's goodone welcome back Bry into the Crawford boxes a TI at one as if he never left still scorching hot he likes it spicy enough August Bry bomb to get things going shout out to my guy Alex bregman there you go appreciate that uh CJ uh yes that is uh uh a big shot coming right on in welcome on back Alex bregman as he goes deep immediately uh in this game but they Trail two to one right now Verlander has thrown a lot of pitches I don't know how much longer he is going to stay in he had his first uh pretty easy inning in the third as they uh as they in the bottom of the Third right now but uh he's uh he's well over 50 pitches at this point uh and we'll see how long he goes in this game but that is the update here two to one as the Astros look to win this series against the Red Sox oh panty dropper up to the up at the plate with with uh first and second two out panty dropper let's see let's see what we can do see if he can come up come up with a big hit to try to uh drop them pñ to at least get this thing tied maybe even more coming up all right a lot to get to today Brandon Scott coming up at 4:40 uh with his Texans report so stay tuned for that uh and Clint was out at practice we'll get his thoughts real quick but I I got to like I got to address this with Tyler I've never I have I don't think I've ever heard of this before before we were walking out Tyler said his ears get hot and it happens every summer he's had blood work he's done everything I have never like I want you to they turn red too you can tell like I want you to describe like they just you're like all of a sudden nothing else on your head it just your ears just get fiery hot and like uncomfortably hot are they red right now they all looks red yeah they're red are they red yeah they're red yeah I've never I have never experienced or heard of that I wish I did my ears think my ears have gotten hot before but I think there was there was a reason like I either had a beanie hat on and over you know it was over my ears some talking about you or somebody hit them or something you know like if you graze you hit your your ear on something it gets hot not just randomly in the studio when it's when it's but you said it happens every summer this is a yearly thing well well y'all know and maybe some of the drive family don't but I'm like I'm Mega hot nature dude like I I'm really just always hot so Summers just suck for me and once it gets to this point this hot as hell August in Houston Texas things start happening but it's just the ears wow I mean I'm the rest of me is hot but I can really feel my ears burning and it's bothersome doctors out there 71357 4 medical professionals anybody out there listening is there uh anybody maybe have an ear fetish you studied the ears a bit is there uh what what's going on with like I've never just sit there be like damn man my my damn ears is on fire it happens to me a lot in the evenings like sitting in my living room like all of a sudden do you think it has anything to do with your your uh your energy drink uh issue uh it's possible it's I do have a high consumption of caffeine I got to tell you big changes feel feel great without the energy drinks haven't had one since I I met with low energy this my in my doctor I haven't had one since and that that was that was weeks ago I hadn't had one in five five plus weeks right here picked this up on the way Little Five Hour Energy took took one took one little pull took one little pull off up first one and damn near six weeks good for you I feel I feel know why I did to be honest with you I feel I I didn't know man I feel I feel feel pretty good about I feel great without knocking it down and maybe maybe some change that would be a damn thing if it was like if Tyler just stopped with the monsters and then his ears just became regular temperature that would be an amazing not be asleep though look it it wouldn't shock me one bit if if I mean I I've seen Tyler take a take a 5H Hour Energy to the head and and wash it down with a monster so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if if it wasn't no he's can't he never done you've done that I've watched do within the last week like you take a 5H Hour Energy drink and then you that's when I start sipping on my monster oh I don't know I've seen that I know it's bad dude by the way like I'm not I'm not sitting here and Deni acting like this caffeine stuff isn't bad for me but it is what it is someone suggested maybe manop Paws uh is what you're going through right now I don't think that's thing I still got uh still got all my ovaries and Fallopian tubes and such good one dude good one texter I mean things do change as we get get older te I know you're a little young punk be ready for that low te read cing things oh I maybe he needs to go to maybe he needs to go to low te no my testosterone is through the damn roof well do you know have you seen the hair I produce on my body I mean I'm still hairier I'll get out I and and mine was low I'm telling you do you know your number hey fellas if you don't know your number your ass is missing out now get down to low Center get that number in in check now go down go down to my guy down at uh Kenny Kenny out there in the the Katy location man he'll take care of you ass even young dud like me slide through there Tyler I'm telling you I don't know blood work when I when I went to low for some reason that power eight that gave me I don't know what that like when I walked in the door free Power they threw that power raate at me like that that I was like this is this is where I'm supposed to be a blue these guys I know they know me already BL power and they it was like they did research I'm an orange power Aid they knew my color what bam blue Power Ra is the only way to go I'm not a big fan of the blue only Power nothing out there to our Crips said listen I just I'm not a big I like the or like like the blue flavor for me like I'm I'm orange first I really started to like the grape and I'm think I'm think this Gatorade to I've really started to like the grape and then red Le the lemon lime stuff I don't like that at all orange red and lemon lime I'll take I'll take any three you can have the blue you can have the gr you have all these new exotic flavors that GLA that cherry Glacier that's kind of that kind of hits a little bit that clear one but yeah I'm more orange first it was like but it was like they knew they toast that orange I said damn hey the the the uh the drinks in and the snack all joking aside that the the options the options in the low te Lounge I'm telling you man they have it for you wow didn't know we was getting that L got a little extra today all right um Astros continue to Trail 2-1 we'll keep you updated Verlander starting his fourth inning uh at uh at 58 pitches right now all right Clint you were out at um at training camp today this is uh this is the the final practice before they uh they meet the Rams in a joint practice will be at tomorrow uh the only one day they're doing it but you out there today uh give me a couple of things that jumped out to you a couple of things that uh that jump for you hey and start with like hey right now you know what they need all right our listeners need positive first no or no stop it I don't give a damn and our listeners need positive first okay L luckily luckily on my list the first the first bullet is is extremely positive Kamari Lasser Kamari Lasser in team drills today and and if I'm being honest over the last two weeks has just kind of chipped wood just continued to be in the right place and and kind of open eyes I'm not I'm not ready to give him stingly uh stingly uh uh um um what was what was it that uh Johnny Harris is stingly treatment I'm not I'm not giving him stingly treatment I'm not real sure where I where I sit at this point with Kamari Lasser but there is no there's no doubt in what you see man and today was a seemed to be a pretty physical day one ones versus which lends towards him lot lot of ones versus ones with with CJ strout and Company out there um I mean all the receivers were go Dalton Schultz I think was go everybody was go and um I looked up and it was your classic outs side receiver is going to run off the corner in other words just take him as deep as you can get him and get him turn his head and chase you that way that that'll open up the out route by the inside receiver and or kind of a corner route by the inside receiver and um and CJ overthrew Diggs should have never threw the ball but he overthrew Diggs tried to fit it in overthrew him and Kamari Lasser um with his eyes in the right place he peeled off of of tank Dell on the go route and just sat right there and caught that caught that int it was it was a Hy very Hy play second one of the camp yeah very Hy play for for the young fella and then they flip it around and they go another team period and and they're they're going to run tank Dell on just a real quick out route and just get get a cheap four five yards real quick and lasted or ran a route for him got a got a pass break up uh on the uh out of bounds right there it it was an impressive two play wasn't two plays in a row but it was impressive two two Reps for Kamar Lasser in in a very short period of time man I'm telling you um the the the kid is is is looking better man you you're seeing some flashes now is he going to be able to sit on routes in the game we'll see is he going to be able to run with guys down the sideline in the game we'll see but for right now I can't I can't wait to see tomorrow puka and uh and and tomorrow some of those guys that's going to be fun joint practice tomorrow joint practice tomorrow want to be fun to see to see as you said like you've been through it we've we've seen this I've covered NFL teams for over 10 years like you can get in training camp at some point like some of these guys start knowing these like start knowing these routes sure there's some of that going on and and know that which is helpful this one here you know that's why to me the preseason games and Joint practices are are a little interesting too because you know they don't really know exactly what the Rams are running they're not you know they're not they come out it could be a lot of they don't know the tendency of the offense they don't they don't know the the tell Tales of every receiver when he's going to drop his weight when he's going to turn inside turn outside they don't know what his favorite routes are and and have been this camp and so yeah it's going to be a different animal you're right the the uh to tomorrow's joint practice will be a a a mustsee for me uh and I think Kamari Lasser is at the top of that list in terms of who you're watching def some receivers and this is this is a quarterback that that is kind of in line with some of the guys they going to face that's right face today so uh so Camari lard he's one of them what what else you see today uh just generally speaking Joe mixon's back out there with the one on and and he's he's big and moving well man he's just he's just impressive he looks good looks ready you're not you're not coming off of your best uh your best running back you've seen in this uniform no no no no I'm not not at all let's get it off baby I'm not at all now I'm I'm a little I'm a little concerned about how well received that's going to be given this offensive line cuz now we got to get to we got to get to a negative do you want to go here or did you want me to hold this one for later no no I want you go I want I want you to go go ahead and go I don't know and maybe this is a new age thing so big cuz Mixon looked good behind what well I mean when I say Mixon looked good I'm just talking about forget the the scheme or the result of the play he finishes every rep right running down the field full speed and it just it's a big goodlooking thorough bread running down that sucker boy he is a horse now he's a bigan he he's going to be fun to watch if they get this thing right but but on the flip side I I don't know about well I do know Ron H I know you ain't that you ain't that damn young you know back in the day man when offense or defense when you just had a a a just a terrible rep just a a rep where you're just like what in the hell was that everybody on the field knew it we we going to line that thing back oh oh I can't remember the term coach used to use we going we going to run this one again did it last night with the Southside Saints yeah we're going to run line up man what the hell are y'all doing we're going to do this again man there was two run plays today in the team period and these these were within a matter of four or five plays together so I'm not saying the whole practice was this way I'm just saying it I mean it happens right in front of Deo Ry CJ stad turns around hens that thing to Joe Mixon and there are two white jerseys Scot free like I'm not talking about somebody was on his on their hip and pushing them wide and trying to give give Jo just completely like like I don't know if everybody went the wrong I don't know what the hell happened we don't like that we just huddled up I mean it was awful we we Hudd up run another play and it wasn't it wasn't it had to be two or three plays later it was something that was so cuz you you can see it's addressed on film you could see it could be addressed in film but it was so much so for you you're like yo we we we got to stop and talk about this right now well we got to clean this up right now somebody was somebody and it's multiple it sounds like looks like was completely wrong and didn't understand their assignment now let's let's line up and do this again to make sure that we get this assignment and it wasn't three plays later Joe Mixon on a little toss little outside play to the left it's same thing I mean it's two two or three white jerseys Scott free back there and I'm just going how do you given what the given what we've watched and this offensive line has got to be better man they've got to be just I mean you was this this is the ones I take it if mixing with Joe Mixon was out there I mean it's just it's just I understand in a game of football at the NFL level you're going to you ain't going to block up every damn Run play Perfect you don't have a hat for a hat but damn it in practice we can we can at least not give two to three interior defensive players in thebox players free runs at our running back as he's catching the ball or he's touching the ball like I I mean we would have been doing laps back in the day me Ry you they said hey hey Clint take your offensive line take Ron s take Ron Center take his ass too and uh y y'all do a lap and come on back I mean it would have been I see I put you at Center I probably should have put you at running back I could have put you at running back huh my bad um I've never never had that position well I mean I could at least get did you a solid right there um but yeah no I I don't know I just I mean it's just kind of hoong let's see let's keep this thing rolling let's keep practice on track wait a minute man what what are we doing and I can't see what's going on I I don't know I'm just watching I got a nice little view from behind the team and I'm watching I'm just like how do how do the coaches how are how do we not have four coaches unloading on whatever the hell just happened and I know times have changed I know I'm old school but damn and then you when cuz when you watch the film that's exactly what happens too much penetration guys not getting off double teams and get up to the second level too much run through and and at some point in time Bobby slowick and and Deo are going to have to move off of the manw close stuff yeah that's the part of it it does it does mirror more of what we saw last year than than something new this year I it's but we see that and I you know I I know I said that the other day is just far too many times and this is with the first unit the second unit the the third unit and I I'll repeat like at at some point because we've been watched this for two years it's almost like are they teaching it this way yeah yeah yeah no I I mean I don't know if they are or not but your question is very you know I mean like and I don't and I don't believe that Bobby slowick and and and Company are teaching it this way but you look at it and you're like how do we see so many guys that are just that appear to be look like they're left free yeah just running through like and and how you how you miss guys so much so so I well even even if you you know because a lot of times you can chalk it up to let's say Deo Ryan because we heard Dalton sheltz yesterday talk about Deo ry's defense is suffocating basically I'm paraphrasing that's basically what he said and maybe we can chalk it up to to just hey man if we were if we were playing in a real game we'd play action over the top we do some things to take advantage of it but even if that's the case like okay Deo call the dogs off and let's get let let like like back up a little bit and let's let's see what this run game looks like versus a a a front where we should get a hat on a hat yeah like like somebody just text in the Old Line isn't nasty enough to run the ball see I from what I'm not going to argue that hello but from what I'm seeing and what you're saying and what you're seeing it's it it it it's it's something even before you get to the nastiness it it it is something with like and I I I was joking when I when I said this about the my son's Little League football team but I'm working with the o line and dline and a lot of times I just say to him do you know who you have yep walk up to the line point to them who you sometimes it seems like when we the the amount of guys we see running free it's not even getting to a nastiness point it is getting to a execution Point 100% And it's you know it's it's odd with guys that have that have been here for over over a year is you just see so like guys before we get to the nasty part like I agree with that point I I just don't think that a that a laramy tunel Titus Howard Leed group is is going to be just like like Trent Williams in the 49ers like you just not gonna get that but what I'm talking about is just like guys like allowing at the point of attack allowing a guy to split a double team guys clearly have control and and you're passing off the double team so that you can get to the second level and you're late or you're on time and you just run right by the linebacker and as if you didn't see him like there's just way too many like mistakes like that that just they doom every run damn near right and it's not gonna be perfect every time I get it I'm not asking for it just happens way too much with this group all right let and I think this is a place we can kind of stay because I know I know you watch the all 22 on every single Run play that Damen Pierce had yesterday yep or on Saturday all four of them and I know you watched it and we'll just say it it it it it was what whatever you walked into thinking before you watched it it was worse it was worse we'll discuss that coming up next all right all my whiskey blood [Music] 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plays in a running game he said it twice Clint he said it twice to the offensive line we got a block it better uh you haven't seen that a lot in the games because uh he's not it's not being blocked well for him all right you sat and watched you did a you did a lot here with the uh with the four what you have four or five runs four runs four carries you did a lot with the four carries he had on Saturday in the game uh and and against the Giants and you looked at this you watched the all 22 you took it to another guy who is a coach and it was as bad as you thought it was going to be when you watched it live I assume yeah I mean it was just it's you would I would just expect more um out of both the offensive line and and out of Damen Pierce it's it's both it's it's it's both having almost an equal an equal hold on yeah well I mean it's just two different conversations Ron at at the end of the day I I don't want to muddy the waters in in either conversation right I mean if we want to talk about Damen the truth of the matter is is that he's not been good it whether we're talking about when it is blocked up and there's a crease and you run up Kenyan Green's tail end instead of getting the crease would it have been a would it have been a home run hit you head on the goal post no but it have been a 5 six yard gain and with his ability once he gets to the second level who knows what would happen but instead you run up you run up Kenyan Green's tail end um and and you know the the the the outside Zone play the toss play to the right the first run he had where there's clearly a guy unblocked in the hole which by the way I I would I would I I got a real problem with the way that Bobby slowick and Company have had that blocked up and have the receiver the receiver is going to block a safety that the snap of the ball is 15 yards deep dang it he's running right by a corner that's up on the line of scrimmage and and and you're you're leaving a corner and and a linebacker both unblocked you don't have enough guys schematically was a bad scheme but if you look at how it all it all worked out if Damen Pierce dips inside where unblocked Defender is and then bounces it outside where the guard had pulled and took the corner instead of the the linebacker inside then you've got again a chance where five six yards maybe a big play down the sideline but instead he just runs right into the the the unblock guy so um you know there there's I mean d flat out there ain't no way around you demo can dance around at all all all he wants with with with Damen Pierce there's no doubt about it that as an offensive as a coach as an offensive coach for damn sure you watch it and you go we need more out of the guy we're handing the football to we we you we you can't in the Red Zone from the 10 yard line you can't create a crease where you can go get five yards and instead we run up the offensive lineman's tail in like if you want to bounce it outside and like even take that that guess or or or or think that may be the right okay Bounce It Outside you can't run up his tail I mean it's it's it's that easy you can't you can't trip him you can't run so there's there's and Dam and Pierce and one of the plays is is a is a looks like a power play um so it's a g scheme where they're pulling a tight end and a and a I mean I'm sorry a guard I think I think it's a guard and a tight end and he just passes up the tight end like doesn't follow the tight end doesn't lead so it's one of those where it's just with with Damen Pierce there is there is clearly something missing than from what we've seen with particularly cam Acres at this point in time last year it was uh Devon single ter now it's now it's it's uh it's cam Acres so I I think he's got to be better you're seeing both I mean we talked about what you saw today but you're also on this on on the all 22 on the film you're seeing it from it it being him but also it being the guys in front because that's what Deo said in that cup we just played there is no doubt about it without a doubt I mean can you you know the the play where they were backed up coming out of the end zone for those that paid that close attention and and the two ends collapsed on him look the fullback completely whiffs on blocking Brian Burns you don't even have to all you got to do is get in his way like don't just completely whiff and you and you've got to play there and he he just completely whiffs um and Brian Burns is in the hole makes DP adjust and and it's it's it's a no game kind of deal or whatever whatever the result ended up being um could Kenyan green on that that play inside the 10 yard line I was just talking about where he ran up his butt could Kenyan green maybe be a little more decisive and either kick him out or or or log him sure he could be right um and and so there's there's things like that um throughout where you just the as a whole it's easy to sit around and go man we're close it's like like we said last year you turn the film on you you turn every week you turn the film on it's a different guy it's the tackle it's the guard it's the fullback it's a tight end you're not close you're not close it's it's not it's it's not close so um yeah they they've definitely got to block it up better uh but it's not going to be consistent until Damen Pierce gets better and they block it up better both both of them are two are two big concerns I mean you the the thought is is that that Joe Mixon will be a big upgrade Joe Mixon will be able to make guys miss but but again to your point that you made earlier in the week is like your your run game can't depend on you know a running back having to avoid contact two or three yards deep in the back field every damn play text line coming up you let me get this straight you kept ler on trial but you give Pierce a pass okay I just don't I don't think you're listening to keep ler on trial I don't think you're listening to the show we I just spent I just spent 10 minutes talking about how Pierce has got to be significantly better and giving you specific examples of how he was bad yeah you you said that I'm not giving anybody a pass he's on the verge of getting cut you said camer camer should be too has passed him up I said I said they need to they need to move on from each other yeah I mean I did man I'm you know what listener I'm not gonna I'm not going to put that on I'm going to listen back to that in the hold on I'm gonna see how that could have been confusing to you that we uh that we gave Damen Pierce a pass not giving Damen Pierce a pass or the guys up front a pass uh with things like that yeah good point nobody even Deo didn't get a pass right there no Deo Bobby didn't get a they get a pass this passing game is is is insane it's nuts and they going they going to they going to do a whole lot and hurt a lot of Defense with that passing game that run game they got they got to get it to a space where it's it's it's productive enough to at least keep people eyes it's not the fullback it's the tight end if it's not the tight end it's the tackle T somebody slipped somebody yeah somebody yeah every time damn somebody slip dog or or the running back didn't hit the right hole I mean it's it's always something dang just got around just that quick all right coming out uh coming up Verlander is uh has really come back in this game and looks uh I think no matter what happens in today's game you got to be extremely happy with uh with what he's done he has finished we'll give you an update on that and the Astros are doing something that I love and hope they continue as they head to the playoffs we'll discuss that coming up next all right if you're trying to sell a home and move into that new home whether it's just in [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] and everybody's happy I'm telling you Orchard is the way to go man one Orchard customer a happy one at that said Orchard sold my home for far more than I expected so I bought a new golf 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Phil you kind of feel himself very he threw 76 pitches today five innings four hits two earned runs six strikeouts I believe Tyler made some money off of that to one walk CH that's the first outing out got up to almost 80 pitches five innings in that against a like if you if you've seen the series you've watched the series you've watched the Boston Red Sox they are a team that makes pitchers work kikuchi's pitch count got up everybody's pitch count has gotten up in this series because of uh their approach at the plate one through nine and uh to see him come back settle down and be really really damn near dominant in the third fourth and fifth inning and get them through five uh was big from verland that's the story no matter what happens that's the story of the game yeah no doubt man 95 Plus on a 76 pitch his last pitch as as uh today in this game um he was actually getting stronger as the game went along with the the the pitch count caught up with him so yeah big I mean great regardless of how this game win win loss how regardless of how it turns out this is a big day uh for the Astros getting Verlander back into rotation and uh and him dealing yeah he looked he he looked after that those first couple Innings and the the thing that he is really great at um is his ability to just to minimize damage when he gets in trouble when he gets like when he gets and has problems his ability to minimize damage is insane and you know you look up there and you'll see boy could have been three runs could have been four runs could have been a crooked number and and and he's able to kind of Bear Down when he needs to even comeing back so this looks good they're going to go to a six-man rotation uh cuz I'm tell you that fell last night may need that more than anybody R Blanco is and and he is he's he's on fumes I think he's outside of framber thrown the most Innings of anybody on the team uh this year and uh they need that from him so so big all right I'm looking up at the plate right now Jer Diaz who uh who is rolling right now and tonight he is playing or today excuse me he is playing first base again and I just I just I just would throw this out I I think that this this should be the the thought that they push forward there he is gets the second hit of the game just now I think this is the this is the the move and the spot that they should press forward right here at first base I think you've talked about a lot of times their best lineup and I think defensively there isn't a a big shift held they might gain something at least behind the plate a little bit uh but I think they should let him learn first bit as much as he could so hopefully he can get better with with things that happened the other night on that throw from Altuve but it seems to me like car Tey and him in the lineup together is is potentially the best that they can put out there with those two with all these guys and I I would even I would even entertain bringing up Salazar to have a third catcher and have whoever is playing the elitmus Diaz and GRE CER role that just is never going to get in the game and play I I I would rather have that a third catcher up here because I I think clearly he is coming on offensively I think it probably helps keep his legs playing first base and as I said I think it's their best lineup I I love the idea of him being at first base and having kartini in there too yeah I'm with you man I I I just don't know how definitely with Kyle Tucker out and Hell let's be honest bregman's been out for five games with with those guys out yep and with Tucker still out I mean I don't know how you leave kartini on the on the pine I I I don't know how with all the tinkering that they that they are obviously very comfortable with doing and in in both Corner Outfield spots um and first base and I guess you can throw catcher in there given that Salazar and kartini and Diaz of all caught the they are obviously extremely comfortable in in in moving guys around trying new things I I I can't I can't push back on you Ron I agree with you man I'd love to see I'd love to see Diaz and kartini in this lineup um and and and I'd like to see it even even when Tucker comes back to even yeah I agree I I agree but but it's it for me it's now with where we're at with Tucker out it I mean you almost have to just to give the lineup a little bit of length and get another bat in there and I think these last what 30 35 how many games they got left to get him as much experience and playing at first base right now before you get to the games that matter in the postseason that's that to me should be what the the thought and the build is and you've got first Bas you got first basem that you just you clear like you don't want to play and you know you don't like I mean well you've shown that just just rotating these guys through that it though you get it with Singleton and maybe the the Zack Den zenzo thing has kind of run his course a little bit and get I mean get that guys bat in there kartini has that's the thing is kartini has swung the bat at a at in a in a place that he's earned it and almost forced it and you thinking God boy do I want to have kartini in there five times four times at the plate or do I want to have Zack Den zenzo or John Singleton in there four times yeah right there so so to me that's a that's a uh that's a decision I hope they they continue to push forward our baseball talk is presented by T-Mobile switch to T-Mobile and you can get tons of benefits and still save on every plan versus AT&T in Verizon use their savings calculator to find out how at t-mobile.com switch all right uh Clint Hey Ron real quick before we get off our T-Mobile baseball talk I'm very rarely in in at the Major League Baseball level St and stop dur your multiple times today he plays center field I mean that that that last play was ridiculous on r i mean this kid and you talk I mean he's flashed he's flashed three times in this game of he's a smaller cat and he's and when he throws the ball he has to throw it with every every bit of his being got a and he is I mean dude it's this dude special man no he he plays he plays short and Center good job and he's as good in Center is he is in short I'm going to tell you man it's a that's a fun watch man he's nasty I know you were out at camp today and uh you uh you and Seth had a Seth Payne catch him every morning right here on Sports Radio 610 pay and Pendergrass 6 to10 a you uh you all had an interesting conversation about jayen Petri who I'm starting to get a little I'm starting to feel a lot better about and get excited about based on what we've been seeing yeah yeah I I I feel really good about it um but but yeah Seth and I had a good conversation and it just got me to thinking man I mean you know Seth's thought of of you know how do you you know how are they going to use him is he going to be able to handle um the the man-to-man coverages and and and just the overall how's Jaylen Peter going to look at at at nickel Defender um it just got me to thinking and and and Seth's question was more about cuz you know he said hey man have have you been able to pay much attention to to what jayen Petri is doing from a standpoint of his physical getting up at the line of scrimmage and and bump and run and and and getting you know again getting him up there in their face and uh so we went back and forth about that but the overall point is it got me to thinking of like he's not going to have a choice like with with tavier Thomas it was like I don't think anybody in the right mind thought we were going to play man with him out there for the most part unless we were forced to do it um but it was it was play soft play man come downhill play The Run be physical kind of I when I look at jayen Petri the way in which jayen Petri is going to have to be used is up and in the face of the tight end up and in the face of the split end or the slot receiver he's going to have to be that way I don't care what you do off of it right like I I don't I don't care if you play man I don't care if you pressure I don't care if you back up and play zone but he is going to he's not going to be a guy that you can set at8 to 10 you know eight yards seven eight yards deep and and then just kind of react because everything Jaylen Petri brings to the table like the reason that Jaylen Petri has a chance to be special is first and foremost the instincts around whether it's a run blitz or just simply play in the run or it's it's a pressure where he's in a blitz package to to go get a sack like you can't Bluff those things from seven yards deep like nobody ever thought tavier Thomas was a threat to to to to to I mean they obviously he's a football player they thought it but just like I'm talking about like constantly go knowing where where Jaylen Petri is because he can either play man get physical line of scrimmage he can pressure he can play he can trigger and play the run immediately or he can bail and play zone I I guess my overall point is Jaylen Petri is gonna be an in-your-face kind of Defender regardless of what they do on the back end you can't protect him the way you you you can't cuz what makes him special are those pressures and you can't pressure from seven yards D no and you can't and and he's going to have I mean that's the deal of like playing there he's going to have to yeah he's going to have to do it because you one also as you said you can't you can't use him in the way that makes him as you said special but also you can't just sit there and just make it very very easy for think about the quarterbacks on their schedule p uh Patrick Mahomes uh Josh Allen uh Trevor lawren Aaron Rogers uh J Jared G Dak Prescott you can't make it easy for those guys to know what coverage you're going to be in every time Jaylen you just jayen Petri is in the game you can't get eight games into the season Ron and be like a if if Jaylen Petri is is is is playing a certain technique there's 75% pressure like you know what I mean like you you've got to you've got to show you got to show a look a good chunk of the time and then be able to do anything out of that look and I think that look that you show more times than not again to to cater to or play to his strengths which are the pressures and the play and the run off the off phys you know physically off the line of scrimmage you're going to have to be an up in the face kind of guy I mean you're just there's no choice there's no way around it I mean your Tendencies your Tendencies are going to show if you don't yeah no yeah it is and that's that's the big thing is like you may be able to got they may be able to go to have gotten away with a little bit last year when you think about uh some of the quarterbacks and the guys they played last year what they got to about eight or nine weeks before tavier Thomas started to to understand hey when he's in the game his Zone Jack but you can't I mean you just you just can't do that against offensive good offensive coordinators but you can't do that with Jaylen Petri right I mean cuz Jaylen Petri because he's playing left-handed now he's playing to his weakness right the the the strength and the and the the scar scary part of Jaylen Petri is he'll be on top of your quarterback before you know it he'll be hitting your running back in the back field as the exchange happens right you can't do you can't pose that threat from regardless of what you end up doing he's making a play like the pick six he got Saturday where he's right on top of the receiver yes yes like you you can't you just can't consistently pose that threat from sitting back playing the tavier Thomas way Seth Payne is got a knife to us as he's walking by I don't know why he just walked past the window with a knife like gonna stab all of us all right coming uped it off when I was 17 there it is big three at three as we'll get you updated on what's going on with the Astros in this game and some pregame info from uh from the manager Joe asata we'll uh we'll get you ready with all of that coming up next but uh you hear us say this we talked about it earlier on the show and maybe Tyler is we'll get him oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] n [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] hey he he he [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Sports R 610 presents the drive with sterer and hugley with the biggest stories of the day it's the big three at three number one the batter here one for two and he hits this ball down the line and left and he's going to add to the Red Sox lead with an RBI double yordon will dig it out of the corner s on thought about three but yordon gets it back in so it's now a 3 to one lead as Rafael knocks in his second run of the game on a double all right that's where we sit there as uh they just finished that inning three uh 3-1 lead for the Boston Red Sox as Justin Verlander started today I think that's the main story and you know with the five-game lead in the in the division over the Mariners who are a game away from being uh uh no longer being above 500 by the way that's that's where the Mariners are I know we said the Astros are 61 and 38 with yesterday's loss in that and I I would love to see what the Mariners record is in that time frame and they've got to be 10 to 15 games under 500 the way they have they they lose today they'll be at 500 uh but anyway with a five-game lead over the Mariners uh in these games right here is it feels like they're going to they're heading to the playoffs I think the most important win or lose in this game is Justin berland and what he was able to do and he started off really really um I don't even want to say slow but in a situation where you didn't think he'd be able to last very long because you knew there had to be some sort of a pitch count after the first two innings he had given up two runs and it was and he was at 41 pitches well his final line five innings pitch four hits two earn six strikeouts one walk and he got to 72 or 76 pitches 33 swings and Miss uh or swings and miss or 10 swings and misses uh in that in that time frame so he uh he was really really really really good for being out for as long as he was and not throwing more than 57 pitches uh in any of his rehab starts so today to me was about Justin Verlander and he looked really really good ain't no doubt about it man got him back in the in the in the road R ation it didn't need to be a piggyback start he was able to throw 76 pitches he ended as strong as he started uh in terms of his stuff and and it appears I don't know flare up or anything like that obviously could happen but it appears that that jv's back it's going to be a six-man rotation with the Astros which is a a huge plus down the stretch for some of these young guys that haven't handled this kind of workload before and um yeah it today's no matter what the score ends up here today was a big win for the Astros getting JV back in in the saddle that's that's what that's uh that's the big thing is it's not just oh man you know sometimes you can see a line Clint like oh five innings four hits two runs like like they it wasn't like and I know I know uh Tyler was in there watching it due to doe to the money aspect for him and someone text in and said Tyler kind of got took one on the chin yesterday hopefully JV got you back right um it it looked good all around you know outside of a couple of guys no one was just AB absolutely that tattooing it and hitting it to people there wasn't much you know much hard many hard hit balls he was striking guys out like you said man he got stronger in the third and the fourth and the fifth inning he was it was strong like you were looking at it and it was like the only reason he's coming out of this game is because prior to the game it was clear they had some sort of a what you understand some sort of a pitch count yeah that was it because the guy that was walking out of that game at three end the fth is a guy who looked like he had two more inning two to three more innings in him so that's that's the big part is you almost forget what you had there when you haven't seen him in a while hadn't pitched since since June 9th now you look at it you're like oh okay that's right this this is the Ace this is the front of the rotation guy and what they had well that's the beautiful thing about all the success that the Astros have had of late man is is assuming it works out in our favor which it did today with Justin Verlander I mean you're already the the hottest team in baseball I don't know I mean you're already doing things tracking down the Mariners after being 10 down before the damn Allstar break I mean historically uh the the best hunt that that we've ever seen in Major League Baseball and by the way you got Verlander coming back this week which was today turned out well you got Tucker uh hopping around in the Outfield which is is is far better than than what we had seen uh the last last week from from Kyle Tucker so he's going to come back at some point in time you play you've been one of the hottest teams in baseball and and and done historically great things without those two big guns literally and to know that they're going to come back and be uh you know part of of of the the move going forward is is that's beautiful man all right prior to the game as uh they got a little day baseball Joe asot the captain uh spoke to the media and this was his update as we know Ryan Presley that back injury uh was placed on the iil this is uh his update dating the latest with Ryan Pressley I was actually just watching him he stuff looked pretty good I didn't get a chance to uh you know finish his Bullpen I got to come here and hang out with you all the fact that like it doesn't seem like he stopped throwing since you guys put him on the aisle does that suggest that like he may not even need a rehab come after 15 days no I don't think he will be necessary I think he's you know he's in pretty good uh shape I think you know the fact that he continues to throw he feels good I don't think it's necess we we could always do like a little live BP for him you know face some of our hitters so right now I don't think that will be necessary all right so that's the latest there with Ryan Presley of course he's uh he's looking good that's the latest with Brian Presley take their time with him make sure he gets right uh and then Alex bregman who did start in this game and has homered let off the game for the ashro with a homer uh he's not playing in the field though this is uh Joe asot speaking about Alex bregman who's obviously in the lineup but giving a more of an update to that yeah I would like to keep him theh um if there if something happens that you know this game you know Xtra in in games I'm sure he could go there and play defense but I will try to avoid that if I can all right he wants to still avoid that so they're not something is holding them back to putting him in the field at this point they they they want him to to only DH at this point so we'll see how long that is but uh it was just big to at least have him in the lineup and hell if he could DH I think they can you know you want him to be at third but I think they they can at least fill that in yeah yeah look I mean just getting the bat back we said this about uh Kyle Tucker as well man I mean the minute they can swing a bat hell get them in the lineup um I mean I mean if it's if it's just DH great you you've got you've your dh's can go out and play in fact I mean obviously the one guy that you would rather be a DH fulltime yordon Alvarez is is is playing Left Field a lot more because so so you can bounce around and use use different guys in that DH rooll so uh it's not it's not something that's foreign for the Astros get these guys back in there hell I mean this bregman showed exactly why today I me John Singleton he is swinging so hard he swung the damn he swung his he swung his uh his elbow pad on I didn't know what that was did he break it cuz he didn't put it back on I'm not sure hey did did y'all see his bat flip on that home run either it was either last night or night before the other night he once again nobody bat flips like big John and he's he threw that his efficiency with it he's so quick with it yes that's what he is but damn he I mean he he is not getting cheated I mean he broke he broke the damn elbow pad oh going it John then he took one swing it 3-1 still uh in uh ad minute made the uh the Red Sox lead in the seventh the Astros do have some runners in scoring position they got a chance to get this thing back tight again big three and three number two all right Clint I know you were there uh the Texans practice today one more day until they meet uh the uh the LA Rams with a joint Practice coming up tomorrow that will be that that sadly enough will probably probably be bigger than the game because I think I think the ones are actually going to play in in tomorrow's uh scrimmages I'm not sure if they're going to play in the game coming up on Saturday but um what are you what are you looking for tomorrow what what things are going to are you you're going there if you got in your mind I know you like to keep notes on a pad you got in your mind what what are the things you're looking at as uh as the Texans get ready to play the ring well I think when you look at this the starting the starting 22 um the one thing that we will be able to see uh not just I'm not just going to just say well I want to watch this this or that cuz there's a bunch of things that I'd like to watch but I think on the offensive side of the football it's that offensive line man I mean there there's got to be some semblance of getting a hat on a hat moving folks and and giving these running backs some some some opportunity um you know the as we talked earlier man the Run throughs the the not getting to the second level the the guys being unblocked in the hole I mean that that stuff um that's got to get better man and hopefully with Joe Mixon in the mix and hopefully with laremy tunel in the mix that gets better in the team sessions with the Rams tomorrow so I think offensively that's the one big we I look I fully expect all these receivers to participate and go off I expect two tight ends and Brevin Jordan and Dalton Schultz to to make plays um I expect Joe Mixon to be out there it's just a matter for me man up front can these guys some space just just block it up man and and and give these guys some some opportunities and and again I don't expect it to be every damn play but boy we it's it's getting tough to watch from go ahead that's what I say my thing I'm really watching there's a few things right we can get to Kamari lender that was that on the defens side of football that's the one I'm I'm but to get to stay there it is Joe Mixon cuz I'm telling you I've wanted I've been wanting to see him in with the ones and against you know another team and with the Rams and their guys in front I've been wanting to see him in there to see how different it looks with him in the in the lineup like I want to see him behind the same blocking scheme the same things that you that we've been watching I want to see what that looks like with him and and and people have been pretty impressed with the Rams defensive line people have liked what they've seen there with their young guys those young kids they got from Florida State that's that's that's the big thing I want to see to see is all right Damen Pierce and that running attack those guys look rough in game against other opponents I want to see how different it will look with Joe Mixon and I think that will give us a better gauge on like all right the Run game will be where they need it to be because that combination of Joe Mixon and the offensive line can seem to find some yeah yeah no I mean seeing Joe Mixon this this will be the livest action that we've ever seen Joe Mixon behind the line assuming that he's going to go I would imagine that this will be the last run for the starters the last high intensity work for the starters before the Indianapolis Colts game week one um and so I would imagine it's going to be some some uh probably some the intensity is going to be a pretty pretty good way up there so um no doubt the Run game as a whole I mean what what are we looking like up front what does Joe Mixon look like we hadn't seen that in live action and then with the Damen Pierce situation does he look better in practice I you know I think I I think we'll be able to get a good a good gauge on all of that on the offensive side of the football defensively you you mentioned it I think it's again I'll say it again every defensive what if or what I'm watching or whatever nuggets you want to look it starts with Kamari Lasser you got a rookie corner uh opposite Derek Stingley you've got at least the first line when everybody's healthy you've got you've got some some dudes that are pretty established or or or we're pretty confident in the one the one we haven't seen is Kamar Lasser um you know he's he's the one that I think for the first month of the Season we're all going to have to be watching to see what what he's made out of had a hell of a day today now um but but you know we got to see it in in in real live action and this is going to be uh this will this will be the the the the realest livest action that he's seen I I hate to think that the Giants are anywhere remotely close to the ram so that game action last week was was damn near waste of time to be completely honest with you this is this is the real the real deal as as real as he seemed this is a coordinator this is a coach who knows what he's doing quarterbacks receivers and and and you talk about trying to confuse a young kid this is kind of a group that will do that I don't know how much they'll show yeah girl but this this is a definite definitely a a challenge potentially in a space where he can get better big three at three number three all right uh we were just talking about the Texans number one uh rookie they drafted in Kamari Lasser well uh we going to have a lot of rookie starting quarterbacks Clint and sea Payton your old guy uh with the Broncos the head coach there he is officially no nobody's surprised by this uh but he is officially named rookie first round pick Bo Knicks as uh Denver's new number one quarterback those countries are you more are you more impressed that Bo Nicks is able to pick this up or that our guy uh what's Zach's last Zack Wilson Zack Wilson funter got over there I think I think many people thought all maybe maybe he gets to start one year that's right no man he he don't even he he he's not even starting the game he's not even coming out of there like what a Miss Zack Wilson was yeah look I I don't I don't think to me it's it's the the other kid there that that that no no that the other quarterback up there the one that that U come out of Auburn man Jared STM yeah uh to me it was it was either STM or Bo Knicks I mean I look I just don't yeah Zack yeah Zack wasn't even G to be the third streak Z Zack Zach don't ring like the whole the whole like pretty boy um you know I don't know he he's got a certain Vibe about him that I just I just never thought was going to was going to work with with I think it's a good pickup but I just I don't think that Shawn pyton was going to go that route now it doesn't shock me one bit that Bo Nicks is that dude an older more mature uh grounded grinder tough ass dude that that doesn't surprise me that that Shawn Payton went with that guy and I mean look you look at at BO Knicks I admit one time I was so low on Bo Knicks I wasn't a fan at all uh he got better at Auburn then he goes out to Oregon and lights it up the fact that he's he learned several offenses he he's was in college as long as he was um I mean I mean he's from from a mental perspective from a cerebral approach to the game he's he's probably ahead of most rookies because he played so much college football Clinton it's just wild when you look at it like all the aspects you're talking about control understanding of the offense knowing what he wants to do what he's reading I mean I don't I don't know that Zach Wilson has ever been as comfortable as Bo Knicks has ever been in these what's he been the quarterback in the NFL what two months yeah oh no but but I mean you we see that he was he was high strong and didn't know what the hell he was doing when he was in college he run all over the place yeah I it's just it but it's just wild like he's been in the league how many years Zack been in the league three years four right he's never looked that way I mean he had a he had a a good half against the Texans last year but he was erratic in the first like I mean it's erratic is the right word I mean that's just been his whole his whole you see that like he's got the the talent in arm arm strength everything but he has never looked like he has ever had control of the offense of what he's doing from from the two games I've watched with B Knicks Ronnie he's he's he was a guy and this this was Bo Knicks early on at Auburn too by the way but but he's always Zach Wilson has always been a guy Ry that wanted to play a backyard style of ball that was that was okay playing outside the pocket and off schedule off platform that was almost willing to play that way and it's it it's it's damn near impossible to play that way at the NFL level we watch some of the most talented dudes on Earth struggle at least struggle in a sense of trying to win championships because they can't learn to play in the pocket from the pocket on time commit to it damn it don't I don't like it should be it's about it's it shouldn't be about what you can do off platform although that obviously ends up being a huge part of quarterback play like the real the what you what you really want is a quarterback that can handle the biggest how what is your threshold how much chaos can you handle in the pocket before you hit the eject button not the first the first sniff of a little bit of pressure boom you hit the eject button how much can you weather how much chaos can you handle before you're like I got to get the hell out of here and Zach is a guy that with with just somebody breathes on him Bo he's out of there out and he's not a good enough athlete to times he'd stay but yeah yeah erratic as as we said all right coming up uh is there is there a guy on the roster that could even be this is there anybody that could be the 2023 version of Nico Collins we'll discuss that coming up next all right Clint sterer here looking I want to take a minute got to tip my cap [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] he n [Music] [Music] [Music] w wow [Music] [Music] [Music] free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast Houston's Sports leader Sports Radio 610 Sports Radio 610 presents the drive with sterer and [Music] huley and he got him chasing not the best at bat for yordon took an 01 strike fires the helmet away as he's swung it a pitch well off the plate to strike out to end the inning with the bases pull I'm I'm currently watching his reaction afterwards he just F he just threw the bat threw that damn hand well this is not good what would y'all be would you would if you struck out like that it's got to be frustrating for that good of a hitter to just kind of just a awful offer at a sweeper away that you knew you couldn't hit it like I mean are you breaking the bat you throwing the bat you throwing the helmet you you you kicking the dirt what what are y'all what kind of I mean Tyler I feel like I'm going Bo Jackson you're breaking the bat yep you're breaking the bat of course in this in this uh scenario I do not have my twig legs because I think the bat would break me but yeah you could get yourself in trouble that with with your current state but but but if I had jordon's legs I'm snapping that thing snapping the wood what would you do yeah I'm not bringing injury into it um I'm going yeah I'm going I'm going probably fire the Hat the the hat in the H in the in the bat toss the helmet the Hat my my my I'd be in just I'd be very similar to him like you know there would be a there would be cuss words to myself yeah F me oh I'd cuss out loud I mean no I mean it'd be L it' be mine would probably be a turn aimed at yourself I got you turn and I'm a I'm a big the guy with the yeah yeah yeah yeah the lips like when I'm frustrated cuz we're in a seventh we're in the seventh inning eighth but it happen that was the seventh it was the seventh inning of a all right like we're all right like this H in the playoffs B is used who El the playoffs I me I may have had to go walk down that into the entire entire clubhous yeah yeah I think you what I am I am a would have fired it fired the bat and and did everything no I I would have I would have calmly carried my bat back to the Dugout but I would have tried to drive that bat through the the the back of that bat rack you done with it oh D like I would have put it in the right hole and I would have tried to blow the back out of you know what that's one that you don't need to do that's not one I need to go watch uh get get the tablet for swing the swings he had hey coach I know what the hell happened man I don't need to see the tablet I don't I don't need to I don't need to watch the T it's proba it's probably good for yordon today after that ATB that he had to run back out to left field cuz he had to just sit in there and stew with that till the next time he came up to the plate like he'd have been he'd have been smoking 3-1 right there and uh and as Clint Tyler talking about a huge moment in the game the Astros get the bases loaded with one out and in the lineup today I'm not so sure there's anybody else that you rather have up to the plate with bregman and yordon Alvarez coming up with the bases loaded and then two outs or I mean one out and then bregman pops up to shallow right and then obviously that just horrible strikeout uh and when I say horrible strikeout just the pitch that he swung at that bat seemed like yordon doesn't normally come up doesn't appear like he has a plan and he's up there just very rarely does B he look he looked like he just was they swinging yeah bregman gets bregman jumps on a first pitch I believe popped it out to to short right field was the second baseman end up getting that no he right field came he was running in and then uh and then yine struck out boy that that was that that hurt yep that hurt right there top nine 3-1 Red Sox lead as Seth Martinez is in to try to hold it down we'll keep you updated on that all right um look Nico Collins hell I I listen he shocked all of us and I refus to even hear anybody saying they saw that n00 yard 80 catches like I I I just refuse to believe that but he to me shocked everybody shocked the league with his production not not just as much he could play but he just he was at a pro bowl level and I'm not necessarily saying up to that performance but there are there are folks and guys out here on this team we're not talking about we're not thinking about that could have a big big impact that I don't think we're predicting hey Clint I I I know there's there's some extra want to for this kid for me but man I I think khil Davis is going to be somebody we're talking about at the end of the year in in a way that I don't think we're thinking about right now I think khil Davis is playing a position Clint that is kind of up for the taking for somebody to step up get it's like it's not like there is somebody that is there there not a Derek Stingley standing in front of him there's not a dig standing in front of him I think he'll get opportunities and the time he got last year I think he played really really well uh and and and and you can see him getting better today he had a really good practice as well uh being reported from people I think khil Davis is a guy I'm not saying he's going to go pro bowl level play the way Nico did but I don't think he is a guy that we're thinking about right now I don't think Texans fans a lot of Texans fans are thinking about right now I think by the end of the year khil Davis is a is a guy that we're talking about as a major major part and has really St the different slots and and table games and and Off Track Betting and and all I mean everything you can think of you're left wanting for nothing the res sports book which I briefly mentioned I'm telling you it's it's off the charts they got 18 convenient beding kiosks they got 40 plus TVs they got a big time Lounge uh they got the cun bar bites and and uh they got that cun Vibe you know what I'm talking about three big beautiful 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one uh we'll see if they can get a comeback it would be their first comeback all season after trailing after eight Innings they are 0 and 43 this year when trailing after eight Innings 0 and 43 when trailing after eight Innings so um uh that is what uh that is what is upon what is upon them right now we'll see if they can uh they can uh find a way to to break that 0 and 43 Street see if they can do that but uh we'll keep you updated I don't feel real good about it right now I'll be honest with you I ain't feeling it right now man right quick work at Jake that'll help well do B try to S guy don't hit it to him um yeah don't hit it to him Jake dubon combo that didn't that didn't go didn't work out real well real uh shout out to uh Bost boss lady happy birthday to boss lady it is our boss right y see y'all see the big pick and and the graphic on the on the wall in there went up theh baby yeah wrote it down solid pick man wrote it down took a picture of ity birthday to you happy birthday to you feel this in my soul you going to hit this next one happy birthday dear Sarah Boss Lady Sarah happy birthday to [Applause] [Music] you God it's the run I love you Tony good good job of pausing that and putting the right name in there yeah smart smart boss SAR but uh Happy Birthday Sarah Frasier um yeah I did take note of that took a uh sa took a photo of it saved it in my phone contract time I want to I'd like to get I was like where is this I'd like to get that in my contract on your birthday you needed on all the TVs around the building yep I don't know if you that that's what I was thinking yes I mean I'd love to see you up there that big smile that big grin I'd love to see it up there man that'd be I'd like to pick the photo because I feel like somebody would actually I check I think if that's Leroy I I do I I trust Leroy I trust Leroy I'll Trust Leroy um I'd like to get maybe about maybe him to send me about five or different five or six different ones he's thinking of so you really don't trust lero I do trust him i' just like to see where he's leaning and maybe we could come together as a group but I'll let him have final say would you like to be smiling or would you like to look hard or like what what would you what would really what do you think you go with I'd like to first year hard Smiles I mean big big big smile oh the first time it happens big big smile yeah don't want and I want it to be single don't want in my kids or anybody in it coordinate just me just you okay is that my boy Ron Oh Hang yeah baby maybe put why why no kids and wife why this well this celebrate me just on that day man I'm you know I'm obviously it's the one day you get the show man you know someone here who just kind of gives it and gives it to others just give me that one give me yeah man I me that day I think it' be nice it be nice right there give me that photo right there I like I like I like the thought of it it's like that time when I uh when I came in here they really got me that day I came in here to visit it was the it was the first time I came here we were doing we were doing the show for the first time together working in almost almost a a tri out type of situation I came in here Tyler I walked in and right behind in the big Studio the TV right behind uh right right behind Leroy was all KU stuff oh that was oh I remember you telling me about it was all it was all Kansas stuff lit up all around then that TV right there when you walk in I said damn man they really want me they're really recruting I mean they're recruting going down I promise you hey I text all realize that was the same day they just said but they just but she is obviously like over the alumni the KU alumni and she was had just so happy to be leading uh a meeting there here that day and that's why that was up here but I'm texting everybody at the house like hey man they are I mean they this is the big time here they are recruiting the hell out of me they really want my ass get here you know you didn't know the boss lady was I didn't know that was had nothing to do with me I they didn't even think about me I said damn boy this is funny they should have let you believe it man that would have been great it would no let Texans really are in KU said no I just like man they do it right here yeah I was like God dog this like I'm like this to you uh when you went to Arkansas bunch of razor back gear in there y know I like it did the introduction of you when you walked into Frank BR stadium and said yeah that that was that was back then that was the deal man when you I mean I obviously being down here I'd played in some big stadiums but nothing like a college Stadium obviously Hogs are winners you walk in and they got your picture and yeah that's what I thought I said up on the up on the big screen up there yeah they know God by the way the uh the Astros the Astros fall uh to the Boston Red Sox four to one lose the series two games to one uh but uh as we'll talk a little bit later it to me today is still a good day up with Justin Verlander Justin Verlander's return was the most important thing as you have a five-game lead uh it was the most important thing and he showed that he he appears to be healthy and ready to go and and not just healthy and ready to go but the top of the rotation type guy that you need all right um I I've been looking at this and I've been I've been thinking about this Clint and I'm looking at Jer Diaz and he is to me when you think about all right the guys that since Kyle Tucker has gotten injured the guys who have really stepped up Yer Diaz has to be from the from at least at the plate perspective has to be at the top of the list and I I'm just wonder I'm throwing this out there you think you think Yer would be in this spot would would would have this production with taken off like this if Kyle Tucker hadn't gotten injured do you think him getting injured him being moved up in that four spot him kind of him kind of having a I think the pressure of that because Clint June 3D is the last game Tucker played his line his number slash n he's hitting 248 278 on base 371 slugging four homers 24 RB today he's hitting 301 and it's improved cuz he's had multiple hits today 326 which is improved on base cuz he's been on multiple times 463 slugging 15 homers and a team leading 71 RBI I I I wonder how much in a positive way potentially it forced him to have to step his game up or also being able to hit right behind yordon Alvarez consistently he is the one that has really stepped up I wonder if we would have if we would have been able to witness that from Yer if Kyle Tucker was still in the lineup every day it sure is it sure is convincing as you're talking I mean those numbers are nuts from it's just it's convincing because I mean it he just strikes like I remember watching him Ron get get pushed down and into the lower part of the lineup and clearly the body language was bad clearly he didn't like it clearly it had a negative impact on him and so I think we've done a 180 with him right where he was he was struggling he's getting pushed down the lineup to now all of a sudden not only has he moved up in the lineup in the three or four hole depending on who's healthy and who's not but you're talking about a guy that clearly the team needs you desperately were forced to right they were there were there was nobody they tried there was nobody else that made sense to put right there they tried Peña I think I think Jake got a run up there I think they tried a lot of people but then they they were forced to have to sit him right there it it's just it's it's hard to think that he or it's hard not to think that he's one of those guys that that boy when when you tell him I need you man we're relying on you man um you know we you're you're one of our big guns that he performs best under under that set of circum cumstances versus the the tough love of pushing him down the lineup and and making him feel like he's he's going to end up back in Sugarland or something if he doesn't pick it up yeah it's hard to think that if if I if the Tucker injury and the Tucker absence it's hard to think that it didn't impact him in any way yeah cuz I think as you said I think it forced them to have to put him in a spot because if Tucker if Tucker's still there obviously he's hitting fourth I don't like I don't know if there is a force or Reason he was hitting ninth yeah he was hitting behind John Singleton at times he was hitting behind guys we're like what in the world is going on I think that injury one for him forc him to say hey for the team I got I got to pick it up I got to get right I got to pick it up I they have four home runs up to that point I got to pick it up the powerwise and then like I think you're right Joe probably had to sit there and say yo he's got to he's got to hit for it yep like I mean there's nobody nobody else makes sense with his combination of potential power and and and what he can do to drive in runs we got to have him there to sit there in that fourth spot and what that's going to do now is like he's in a Groove he's going now when Tucker gets back I it just makes this thing stronger because I don't I don't think I don't think when Tucker arrives that means Diaz is going to go back to being the guy that he was when Tucker was playing and that was a guy God I hope not the one the one thing about about Joe aspat all joking aside is I mean he's shown if you swing the bat well you're going to move up in the lineup if you don't yes yes is going to move down in the lineup with the exception of your top four guys top three four guys tuck four if Tucker's healthy um and and what Diaz has done is Diaz has made him right Diaz has has shown up it's it's wild to think uh Ron that that him and we' talked about p as well in the same breath like the the quality at bat these guys are getting this year versus last year I know there's Still Moments don't get me wrong but but the last year it was once a game with these guys man where they were they were just going to waste in it bat they were going to swing at a at a at a slider sweep away was done like what yon struck yes it was zy they were swinging no matter what and so those guys Pena and I don't mean to for pya to steal a little bit of Diaz's moment here but both of those guys I mean it's crazy how much more disciplined they seem to be at the plate um and it's interesting I don't know where P's numbers are but obviously home run numbers are but obviously Diaz the power fell off a little bit but the average hitting over 300 at this point is but to to where he was at yeah in just over clim yeah to where he was at he is long season run yeah he did the reverse of Jake he's done the reverse of Jake drive by Myers drive by Hey Jake great catch yesterday no doubt man great catch great catch yesterday great catch better better Dismount you like the Dismount not going to say about that that Jake right there hey that Jake right there I'm talking about the made to catch cool I'm talking about the land in the squatted position stand up and he did everything but adjust the backpack he did everything but with his thumbs and his glove you know check what what is that is secure the bag he did everything but that I mean that that that Jake right there I can get down with that Jake and he hey and he made Patrick kon's day I I had heard from Patrick in a month and a Ron huy oh yeah climb the ladder now I know now I know Pat ain't gonna make make no uh ain't going to make nothing up here on on the X or on social about about that that easy sin that the Red Sox had to kick off the game today on that shallow ball hit to Center yeah look I I didn't even think twice about cending them I would what an aggressive sin sh come on man that's Jake they had a they had a game plan I don't even mean to be a jackass Jake but you clearly see the Red Sox had a game plan of we're running on Jake Meyers any chance we get which I think everybody does we're running on him any chance we get and open up the game but no last night that catch fantastic catch fantastic catch had a good hit today too good hit today too all right what you what you got coming up at the four well I was at practice today and uh while we're getting closer to game time and the ones are are not going to play they are preparing um I say the ones aren't going to play I don't know exactly who's playing but I'm I'm I'm going to guess they're not going to play if if at all any um but um we got a joint practice tomorrow so they are turning it up a little bit the intensity was turned up a little bit at practice today they're getting some work done and there's a couple of things that stood out I I'll give you let me be your eyes and ears like I told you yesterday let me be your eyes and ears I'll give you what I saw out of practice today we'll do that next right here on Sports Radio 610 before we do that though let's talk a little about R 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time make sure you plugged in at uh at that 440 Mark guys I was out at practice today and um um it it was I I I don't think I I didn't expect to see the level of intensity that I saw um I mean like now hindsight I think there's there's a joint Practice coming up probably guys getting their juices flowing and getting their mind right um but but the the with with the Rams coming to town tomorrow for a uh a joint practice it all makes sense like Deo wants to get some work in with his ones because tomorrow you're probably going to be somewhat Limited in in and what you can do because it's going to be contingent on another team and you have to work with them and so you know you you want to get a lot of good work in with your ones today was a lot of One Versus one uh work once they got to team uh for the Texans and I'm going to tell you man Ron we we've i' I've had a close eye on one guy the entire the entire Camp uh well a couple guys but one of them more so than anybody given given the situation the second round draft pick out of Georgia Kamari Lasser that was immediately named the starter at corner and uh seemed like it was immediate no it was immediate to us as far as we know I know I know Deo tell you went over his team but but that was that was a quick trigger on on uh on who the starter is at at at at U at corner for for an organization that typically talks a lot about creating competition but I've watched him and there's no doubt what we've heard from Deo is spot on in terms of he's obviously mature Beyond his years he knows the defense like the back of his hand somehow he's never out of pocket never out of place um he always knows where he's supposed to be he's he's always way where he's supposed to be when he was supposed to be there all that coach speak stuff he is absolutely that and it just seems like you know the the whole stacking days thing is going really good with for him Ron today again just the team periods Kamari Lasser jumped off the field a couple times all right there you go that's good leading into the get leading into week one tank yeah yeah hell yeah it's better than the alternative leading into week one um tank Dale is running a go route to the left side of the quarterback and it's really just a route at this point in time where hey you just go run the corner off right and then Diggs is is I couldn't tell if he came from the same side of the field or he's coming from the other field but he's he's he's running an over route to uh to the area where tank just cleared out and the underneath coverage took it away I don't know why CJ strad decided to throw it it was a poor decision on CJ's part but he tried to throw it high and let let uh let digs go up and get it and of course he sailed it nobody touched it well Kamari Lasser standing back there because tank Dale had ran him off and understands that the ball's not coming to tank he gets his eyes around just just I mean an awareness I I would say not a not a a pro bowl level player or anything but just an awareness you're not you're not just chasing tank around the field you realize once you get to a certain depth you realize what's going on your pattern reading you you see the crossing route coming kind of deal well he kicks his eyes back to the quarterback and gets his body turned around in time to make that pick on the overthrow by CJ strout it was it was again not a great play but a very Hy play a very a very Hy play from a player that demo Ryan has leaned into from a sense of being a guy that's like yeah he's where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be there he's mature he he's he's aware that was one of those plays that jumped off the field today with Kamar well he's starting to have them right as you said he's starting to stack some days I know a couple weeks ago before the injury we we saw he had a couple of good days last week um that was odd that's why tomorrow I'm really looking forward to him facing the Rams and their passing attacks with their receivers because last week uh as you said it was almost a waste of time with the New York Giants and what they put together game plan wise and then also within that they didn't even really challenge him I think there was almost I can only remember one ball thrown his way and you know it was it was it seemed like he was you know he was covering you know quarters high and and somebody had somebody had it lower and and you know the receiver got in between them so it wasn't really on him it was just wasn't a lot of challenging towards him even though that was his first game I think this coming up tomorrow has a chance to be a real challenge to him to see what's going going to potentially be in front of him in the league out outside of his own guys outside of running up against the Texans offense every day yeah I'm anxious to see how how he runs and and and how he moves and and and how I know they're going to play it safe in terms of I think it's a smart thing to do with him in terms of playing him soft and letting him come down and make tackles and letting him come down and defend underneath throws versus getting him in a spot where he's getting beat over the top so I think they're going to protect him a lot obviously which you hope you hope an offensive coordinator would do with a rookie quarterback um but we'll see we'll see how he matches up but that wasn't the only play today Ryan this is the one that was more impressive to me not more impressive I I think I I guess all things considered they're both pretty impressive but it it was a drive first play of a drive CJ st's going to take the snap and he's just going he's just going to give it to tank Dell to the short side of the field on a little quick out route and and get the drive started it wouldn't have been but a little four or five yard gain maybe um but again one of the better route runners in tank Dale and Kamari Lasser runs the route for him Essen jumps the route uh he gets a pbu to start right on the sideline defense goes crazy uh it was a big league play I mean if if he has the ability to sit on routes like that and and and get pass breakups on on you know three four five yard out routs versus guys like tank Dell this dude's got a real chance man I mean it it was it was two plays in about a five or six play span I think that were that were they threw the ball his Direction and and he he looked really really good so again he flashes there man that that's it's still my number one watch I'm still concerned about the young fella uh at at the at the Corner Spot um I trust demo and Derek Stingley Jr are going to be able to to to support him and help him um weather the storm of being a rookie in this league but I I got to watch the matchup and what I've seen of late man he's just steadily chopping wood and what I've seen of late has been awfully impressive at that cornerback spot to me at least in year one I I I feel like the expectations very similar to what I have for Kenyan green you know that's really hold your own you know listen I don't expect you to to to play at some sort of a pro bowl level um and I know you're going to get beat sometimes and I know you're going to to have some some of these receivers and quarterbacks get you and trick you and and make plays on you but not consistent where it's like man he can't be on the field or we've got to help so we've got to much him so just hold your own this year very similar to to Kenyan green and I think just like Kenyan green what he has shown us thus far in Camp that he is building towards that yeah like that's where he is no doubt he's building towards that as I said I think Demo's going to be able to protect him and the the defensive front as it pertains to the pass game the defensive front is going to force the football out quick a lot so I think it's going to that that's going to Bod well for both corners for all the cover Defenders uh this this def defensive front has got a chance again as the versus the pass I think they've got a chance to to legitimately I think this conversation is probably overblown with some defensive fronts but this defensive front has a chance to to push the ball out early a a a a good chunk of time in games right Force quarterbacks and offensive coordinators to throw the ball quick not want to hold the football because you're scared of the sack you're scared of the sack fumble you're scared of the negative play I I I do believe that the secondary all the cover Defenders are going to benefit because most teams are going to have that Approach at least to start the game and so uh Kamari L's got some got some good things going for him he's got a lot of support uh and you know the the play caller I think is nobody's more important than the play caller Demo's done it before uh and I I think he'll be fine but we'll see today was a big day I can't have this conversation Ron without talking about the Run game because once again it it it just it just flashes to me two things Joe Mixon um I'm not talking about whether he was hitting the holes or bouncing this or bouncing that schematically I don't know exactly where he was supposed to be or when he was supposed to be there but there's a couple of times after the play you know how the running backs always finish 30 40 yards downfield where he's just flat getting it I'm talking chin kicked up head kicked back and he is getting getting it down the middle of the field and I'm telling you if there was any concern about whether he's healthy or not let that concern go out the window cuz my man is Absol absolutely healthy and he is a horse man I don't know if it's just because the other backs aren't very big I guess on on this squad but he just seems like a dude that he's a lot bigger than I thought he was which I said all this stuff earlier in Camp when he was practicing um but he is he appears to be ready and he damn sure looks the part yeah yeah he's he's looked if he gets space he can he can look like the Joe Mixon you've been used to used to seeing I think it's just we'll see how how he is able to roll with this offensive line and how they how they're able to move I think individually Ron for me with Kenyan green answering answering the the bail and ju scrs answering the Bell offensively we've already seen Stefan Diggs um uh you know we've we've seen tank Dale post gunshot post broken leg we've seen all that um offensively I think the only thing left to be seen by all of us fans is is Joe Mixon and not the fans are going to get to see it are the fans is it a F day tomorrow joint practice F day not sure I'm not sure uh but but I know we will get a chance I don't think fans will but we will definitely get a chance to see Joe Mixon in a little bit more lively action not not real real game action but it'll be a little bit more lively like I said closest the intensity was turned up today the intensity will definitely be turned up tomorrow and I would imagine that that Joe Mixon is U is going to get some runs so that that'll be good to see Ron the the one other thing that I that I I saw today at practice and this is a painful one for me and maybe it's the old school in me but you remember back in the day man when you're offense or defense doesn't matter but you know when you have a crappy rep not you personally but the whole Squad like something just didn't the the somebody jumps off sides early or do it again do it again run it back that's the word I was looking for run run it back you know just just it wasn't a good rep so you just run it back if you do it a couple of times hell you might start the whole drill over right Ron I I don't know how a practice start over yeah yeah Danny Ford he he' do that in a heartbeat now I don't know how demo Ry and Bobby slowick don't at least run it back you ever watch Bobby let me let me y'all line up and run that play again like we got to talk through something like something ain't right Ron there there were two and I'm sure it happened multiple times but there was in a in a very short span of time I'm watching practice and today I I don't know what the it seemed like there was just a lot more run involved in today's game I I itday practice I don't know I don't know what maybe they're working on it but anyway there were two plays within about a five minutes I would say of each other that were run plays and the first one as soon as CJ CJ didn't even have his hand pulled out of the gut of um of Joe Mixon before there was two defensive linemen standing in his face breathing down his neck and I'm not talking about offensive linemen hanging on for dear life trying to get their block done I'm talking about the dine had won and they were standing there in his face and then two three plays later it's kind of a more of an outside run to the left there's two or three white shirts defenses in white there's two or three white shirts right there in Joe mixon's face two I'm talking about two three four yards deep in like I don't know how Deo Ryan given what we've the struggles have been and given what even Deo Ryan has said we got to block up the run better he said it today he said it today to the media I don't know how those guys don't come unglued in those situations I mean it both times it was right there in front right in front of Deo it's got to be happening somewhere else but but I don't but you the the part I'm talking about can happen somewhere else Ron I'm talking about to run it run it again on the line run it again right now that ain't it in some form of fashion the way that cuz I do think he's made it a point to speak about it multiple times in reference to Damen Pierce not blocking it well I just I'm with you I I don't know how it's just how it's not let's get on the ball and do it again me how that but I would imagine with Deo and Bobby they're handling it somewhere else behind closed doors but I I'm with you I I am surprised that there there's not a on it again H I'm surprised CJ hasn't come out or Joe Mixon hasn't come out and said hey let's do this like can we get this rep again oh I I guarantee you and and this I'm not knocking CJ for this but I guarantee if it's a pass play that happen yeah I guarantee if it was pass protection we're talking about cuz you don't I don't never see that just be a complete bust but it just seems like in the Run game that's a good point why like why you don't not say never but rarely do you see the offensive line not nearly as much as we do with the Run game see the offensive line just have guys just run through free missing the way that you do with their one with their run concept yeah it it is wild now maybe it has something to do with when when the the defense does win they don't anywhere near CJ strad because they're afraid they might get cut if they bump him they don't they don't treat Joe Mixon that way I I don't know but it just sure seems like it just seems like there's a level of like we hear them talk about being close we're almost there it's like I don't think they're anywhere remotely close and it just seems like the level of the sense of urgency I would think would be a little bit more hey guys get this stuff right this is unacceptable instead of just all right move on let's keep practice moving you know what I me I'm not saying you start the practice over I mean I don't know if that'd fly today I'm not even saying you start the period over but but start the play over for sure would be uh would be nice nonetheless that that's what was that practice today we'll be out there tomorrow joint practice with the Rams today Kamari ler had a great day Joe Mixon looks the damn part and and uh the the the Run game up front is awfully leaky man the blocking up front is awfully leaky that's what we uh what I saw at practice today I want to remind everybody out there as well um texting texans.com I'm going to give away a few Hall of Fame Andre Johnson Hall of Fame t-shirts um and and what text 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Texans Texans report Brandon Scott up in 30 minutes coming up next I'm just the messenger I'm just the messenger uh Alex Brickman played today there is an update after the game on Alex Brickman we'll let you hear what he had to say himself that's next oh boy I don't know about that but uh we will hear I can't wait to see what Ron's got but but I know this [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Houston's Sports leader Sports Radio 610 Sports Radio 610 presents the drive with sterer and huley but a foul tip will end it caught by Wong this time and that'll do it for the Astros in the ninth one hit one left on the Red Sox after losing seven in a row to the Astros over two seasons win the last two games of the series and said Houston on the road with a three and three home stand all right the Astros lose today Justin Verlander pretty solid especially towards the end strong in his uh his performance back for the first time in months since June 9th to be exact but Alex bregman felt pretty good Clint Clint Tyler he was in the lineup let off Altuve got the day off let off he let off the game with a homer but he was the DH he wasn't playing third base if you remember he missed uh those five games in which was was It was supposed to be three no structural damage or anything missed five games um with uh swollen right elbow right behind it we wonder what does this mean what does this mean uh and today Joe is spotted before the game said oh yeah maybe he could he could play some third base and a pinch what Joe said Alex man spoke to the media himself in the post game as he kicked it off with it earlier this week or I mean on Friday to tell us about the injury uh initially this is him talking about him potentially playing third base again you feel like you're going to be able to play the field soon um we'll see uh feel like the rest of the year is going to be kind of just a fluid situation take it day by day and see how it feels every single day and kind of make a decision as it goes um through today for the first time um arm felt good um didn't feel any pain or discomfort or anything um but yeah it's just going to be one of those things take day by day and uh kind of see how it feels the rest of the year going forward no God also reported he said uh they're SW they're still swelling the elbow some Gremlins are in there near the UCL is what he said some Gremlins little gremlins are in there huh causing it meet your new DH htown damn man a he's lost in the field that's that's that's bad well just put D or just put duban over there at third base but I'm sure they won't do that but it's a fluid situation well this is not good well the thing is is you can't like to me if it's if it's fluid and the part that aggravates it or at least in theory the part that aggravates it is throwing then you you ju you can't you can't play him in the field you can't allow him to throw anything because then you risk him not being able to hit yes by the way did he say his first time he played catch today he did say his the first time he played catch we were told that he played catch he's a game a game maybe maybe throw maybe he's talking about throw throwing said well he said no he said played catch with conviction for the first time that's it he played a game of catch maybe this time like you said it conviction conviction light light catch yesterday very light again when he was asked if he's going to be back at third base said it's a fluid situation the rest of the season they're still swelling in the elbows some grimlin in there are causing it he said is braggy being ridiculous now it's Gremlins come on now we've reached this cat in a hotel room hurt himself to a point where it's a fluid situation over a week later and he is quoting his Gremlins there still swelling in there I like honest to God I want to I I want to go home and try to do this do what sleep on your armor sleep in sleep in a in a situation I would have swelling for for over clear clearly something in there and throwing the ball is what hurt it the sleeping thing may be what just triggered the pain something he may have woke up and thought he slept on it wrong but clearly it's it's the it's the Gremlins it's the Gremlins that are in there and it's throwing that aggravates it and hell I'd DH him the rest of the year all right uh Tyler what because you seem to be really when you say if he's not able to play in the field you were like you were about to lose your mind over there with thought it's a huge huge thing to me it is that side of the infield how important it is and what bregman brings with that glove even when he struggled he had he had the glove with him earlier exactly yeah even if even if he gets off to the slowest start we've ever seen in baseball for 3 months even if he goes on a cold streak the dude pretty consistently is making plays in the field for the stros so I man I I don't like the way that sounded I don't like it I don't like it either but I I just it's one of those where I mean obviously him dhing today and hitting a bomb it's clearly not swinging a bat he can swing the bat yeah he can swing the bat it's just thing if if I've got and again I'm just saying have one or the other give me bregman at the plate I we we'll make we'll we'll put some Band-Aids in that damn field I'm just look I'm looking at I'm listening to him and what Joe said it don't he don't sound like he was somebody that was going to be throwing the ball in the field today and that and that's what Joe as spot said yeah that could be an option he didn't he didn't seem like a guy that was going to be throwing the ball in the field today good God man what is what in the hell is going on with these guys no injury bug man they're bit and but it's the way that they get bit who else can play Third can yard Diaz play Third I guess uh no you got sh you got duban uh you got zenzo the zenzo he got in there played some he got him a hit today maybe maybe this gets Greg hessinger back in here I don't know all over the infield wow Lim Miss DS said damn just went out like that is that well he's still out there if they needed him by the way we lost Trey cabbage um God how long's that game been over they sent him down to triaa within had to have been 24 minutes of the Game ending the hell Ben gaml who they traded for he is uh he's been called up an outfielder as well but Trey cabbage uh back to Sugarland see you damn we got to be a little bit better than lettuce yeah see that see you felt felt harsh man see you lettuce yeah that's that's he put a different different uh Greenery that old pink slip hey bud I know somebody probably put in his in his locker in the ninth in in the in the ninth inning hey come see us come see us for you sh Bud from the text line we really want to act like duban can't cover third this show is and has been full of drama queens all three of you shut the hell up I just no stop talking out of your ass I just don't who does it think that he could play Third I believe that's the first name I said yeah weird how that works I mean you are a drama queen open your damn ears clearly according to him you are one too Tyler gave him every reason first I said they should as soon as you said it like he's not playing third I think they should put duban absolutely right at third absolutely although immediately by the way has duban played third any of these games uh I don't remember if I maybe he played one earlier in the year maybe before Shay and before Shay and den zenzo became a thing cuz yeah Shay has been starting I think all of them and by the way yes the text texting in yeah I know this means that yordon has to play Left Field every day and uh I'm here for that yeah dub Bond's played some third this year no I know he's played some third this year I'm talking about in the in the stretch since uh bregman got hurt I don't think I don't think in the in the five games that bregman got injured I think I don't think he played third in any of those games which it would last time he played third August 16th against the Chicago White Socks you know my suggestion is Mauricio dubine but I know for sure that won't happen they are there is just they're they'll be damned if he gets any consistency on a daily basis he they'll be damned if duban gets any consistency on a daily basis he comes out rocks a double right off the bat today they'll be damned if they do that cuz he's going to play all over the place although if he can't play Third duban is obviously the arm to do it and can play and it's a great def a a when I say great defender all around he won the go glove as a utility guy last year it would make sense to place him there it would make sense to place him there with his Bat and his and uh and his clutch Jean that he has and his experience rather than playing den zenzo and and Shay I think when it matters that's what happens happens like I just I just need I I I don't know if we we'll get the answer this I I I want like and I know we won't I'd like to get a little something a little bit more concrete on this Alex bregman all year thing oh yeah like like fluid all year yeah I I don't know that we would have got that from Joe that's why I mean I appreciate Joe said's ready to go he said D they're ready to go just justen all right coming up our guy another drama queen uh our Texans report Brandon Scott he'll join us we'll get his thoughts on uh on things as we're getting closer and closer to the regular season all right quick trip East y'all let's take it this weekend maybe uh maybe later in the fall either way it goes Kat [Music] o o [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] d d [Music] [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] that's mencl clinic.com or call 1 00246 low te football in htown is on the rise I love to Ryan man I tell you what htown I'm back our guy B Scott has all the latest from the grd iron I don't see no nowhere around here it's time for your your weekly Texans report we ain't laying down for nobody on the drive with sterer and hugley all right there it is that uh that's our guy you see him on YouTube and twitch you hear him right here on Sports Radio 610 The Odyssey app Brandon Scott with the Texans report every single week 440 right here on Wednesday and uh today was was much like we'll see during the season usually Deo we hear from uh CJ on Wednesday uh I'm certain we'll probably hear from um another defensive player this year and uh I know you're out there watch practice Clint was out there watch practice and uh and then afterwards I know we heard from De what what was it cuz we talked about the Run game a little bit we played a little bit Deo was really out in front about that what jumped out to you about what he had to say today when he talked to the me so we talked a little bit earlier about the offensive line and the run the Run game is just an elephant in the room right whether you're talking about the offensive line whether you want to focus on a particular running back that being Damen Pierce you want to focus on the fact that Joe Mixon has Miss time that hadn't practiced as much or or has been dinged up if you will like the running game is just overall if you want to point to Bobby slowick and still the the outstanding question I think that exists on whether or not he can adequately scheme up a run game like I I think he can but it is fair to say that they haven't exactly done it yet so it's a multifaceted issue and I I think Deo spoke more so about the offensive line but what I'm really focusing on is what tomorrow brings you know like that that joint practice with the Rams the physicality of it I think we're expecting it to be a physical practice the sort of meeting of the minds of similar offensive philosophies same sort of tree similar sort of tree sha McVey he's got the laflor little brother over there with him and and Bobby SLO on the other side and that question that we just asked those the things that stick out to me like we'll finally watch them be physical we'll get a chance to watch them be physical against a similar team a well coached team and we've got all these questions about the Run game we hope we get some of them answered tomorrow yeah it's it's um even more so than the preseason game yeah I agree with you we we talked about it a couple segments ago I I I think the big thing tomorrow man it's less about one individual and and more about the whole offensive line for me I mean I'm watching practice today and it's just like I mean it it there's guys is just just breaking straight through the line and and and damn near taking the handoff for Joe Mixon you're just like how does that continue to happen with your ones man with the one like it's not it's not just guys getting beat it's it's it's guys completely missing or blowing assignments or I mean it's just it's tough to continue to watch and it's going to be really tough for Deo and Bobby Slow to continue to go well we're close boys we're close and this is why I focus a lot more I know we're watching the players and we're evaluating the players but we need to be evaluating the coaching as well and and that's why I think you know us watching it with a watchful eye obviously you Clint have that attentive eye you know knowing offense and everything like that like I I think we need to pay attention to whether is it a physical issue like these are the same guys that look pretty badass in pass blocking in pass protection situations right and it's not like we don't feel like they physically match up you look at those guys I know we understand hey Larry Mel and Titus Howard aren't necessarily like known for run blocking but they are all physically adequate and equipped to do this job it makes you wonder okay what is the missing link here it feels more like missed assignments than it does physicality cuz we had a we had a listener texting in earlier about they're just not they're not physical enough or tough or any of that like I'm not going to say they they are they're not road graders these aren't nasty dud but some of this is just as Clint said I this this a guy just ran through a guy's just missed a guy like were we supposed to double team when are we supposed to get to the linebacker and I supposed to release him it's like missed assignments as opposed to it's why really I question whether it is coached and or schemed properly and I don't have the right answer to it but that to me is the question is what stands out it's like hey these guys look like they should be able to do this job why can't they the the key the key is is it's it's very fair and it it's I think it's all of the above I mean I the the you know you watch the the outside uh the outside Zone play that that little sweep little toss play that um Damen Pierce ran and and you've got a wide receiver that instead of blocking a corner that's hard press he goes up and tries to block a safety that's that's 15 yards deep in backpedaling and then you and then the result is you've got an extra helmet at the point of attack like so schematically that don't make sense like he should block the corner the pulling lineman that ends up one on two he blocks the remaining Defender and the safety's got to come from 20 yards deep to make the tackle so schematically there's a there's a a problem there yeah why why would you ask the running back to make the guy Miss who's much closer absolutely you know like yeah no it's it's it's math and science at that point like yeah so I I only say all that though be got to say I think it's the scary part is it's I think it's it's a little bit of all of the above yeah I mean that that's the the inability to execute the double team up to the second level and and and and not get ever get off of the the down lineman or not when you do get to the second level not even touching the linebacker him running right by you he wasn't there like it just happens way too often for this football team yeah I'm trying to decide if like if we continue to see it look like this I'mma Be at a point pretty early on in the season fellas where I'm like man you can't abandon the Run game because you got to actually do it a little bit but man just throw that thing just throw that ball you know what I mean just it's annoying it's so annoying and they just they have to keep teams honest they're playing they're going to be playing better defenses and better teams and better against better coach es that that it's just going to make life easier and like we're saying with what they have on the outside and the fear their passing game puts in it they should be able to run well enough to keep people honest that's that yeah and of course it's obviously like it becomes a down and distance situation but but also like I I honestly I feel like running if this is what it's going to be you're going to have to decide very early on how much much running the ball equates to wasting a down like do you want to waste a down trying to establish the run like what is the balance between not wasting downs but also still imposing a certain level of physicality and running the ball requires right or or just speaks to like CU you you force him to tackle you force him to get off blocks like functionally it makes sense to run the ball even if you don't get but a yard just cuz you you imposing some sort of will but is it worth it is the question and I I don't know the answer I'm with you I want to see uh I I desperately can't wait to see Joe Mixon tomorrow against another defense to see what that looks like all right Brandon Scott in with this Texans report uh B Scott quick and easy here um and you can dive and take this where you want to take it did uh did John Mei go ahead and and lock his uh his uh his name to this team is he a 100% lock on this team do you so the big takeaway from the weekend for me was how quickly The Narrative can change and I didn't feel like it was because we were being wishy-washy or flip-flopping I I thought got new evidence I thought we got new evidence and the evidence gave us hey going into the weekend Damien Pierce we don't know how many carries he going to get we don't know what you know what string running back he's going to be but he gonna be on this team dami Pierce gonna be on this team John mie not quite sure that completely flipped John mie looked like he probably going to be on this team based off of what he's able to show you over the weekend and that conversation flipped for Damien Pierce to where you're like man I don't know if all the backs ain't better options at this point you know and so that was that was what was striking about the weekend about one preseason game talk about how meaningful a preseason game can be maybe it's not but it definitely changed the way I looked at two I think players that they like a lot and that they're rooting for but both have question marks like like serious issues as to whether they should be on the team be got big big uh or not big day but a couple of Flash plays today at practice from Kamari Lasser um and I only say that to say that that he's another one right that with this um with this joint practice tomorrow that's another guy that that another spot where we could learn a little bit more about number 14 um given the intensity and a new new Squad coming in to to Joint practice so I know we look at him on varying different levels but I I'm at this point y'all to where I'm going into it now with an expectation the way they talk what kind of an expectation I've got an expectation too the way that they discussed Kamari Lasser the way he has been I'm not going to even say given the job I feel like if this is where it's at then he's probably earned it like based off of what we've seen so far and the way we discussed Kamari last I'm expecting him to go out there and perform like I he'll have rookie struggles and moments and being a quarterback is part of it is like being able to dust your off and accept some failure here and there that like that's just part of the position but like watching him go up against Stefon Diggs and perform watching him go up against tank Dale guys like that and perform I'm expecting him to go up whoever against whoever he's matched up against against the Rams and so on and so forth throughout the season I have expectations now for Kamari Lasser based off of him winning that job and how much they like him this Deo talk about I've gotten to a I've gotten to a point M I'm in a place similar to to Kenyan Green in in terms of King and green yeah their their expectations I feel like this will be very fair when I explain it uh the the expectation with him is listen I don't I don't expect you to come in here to be a star or to be to play at a pro bowl level but you're going to get picked on can you hold your own more times than not right they're not going to they're going to pick on him just like they're going to line up receivers and go after him so they don't have to go after uh Derek Stingley like like we're going to see a lot of in in week one we're going to see a lot of Buckner lining up on on that left side as opposed to to Shaq Mason side to try to create that don't expect for you to to to to just play at a pro bowl level but can you hold your own and not make it a situation where it's like God man that's the duck or that's or we got to get out of that or we got to kind of change things and I think both of them are trending to the level of yes I think they can go out there and play to the expectations of being solid players to hold their own and be able to with what teams are going to try to do to him yeah I'm with you on the so far so good part like I think from what you've seen so far you have to feel good about it but the issue with Kamari Lasser is that you haven't seen as much of it in game or against the type of competition I mean Daniel for some reason they said we're going to attack stingly today yeah yeah and we're going to we're going to attack him poorly too like we're not going to even be good at it so yeah no that was a bad idea we I don't feel like Kamar L has been tested and awaited I think we all want to see him be tested eventually hopefully sooner rather than later tomorrow maybe puka yeah for sure but to your point both of those guys like we have seen plenty of Kenyan green and so far so good with that so yeah those are definitely two dudes that you want to see as much of as you possibly can for starters he was ready to just jump down I mean I mean when I said Kenyan Green Man you you reacted like Kenyan where he's going that because cuz Kenyan green actually has really dog he's got tape that he's got to redeem himself from whereas Kamari Lasser is a blank canvas but you are right about being picked on they both will be picked on is it fair right now and maybe we talk about this a little bit more uh tomorrow something but we can throw it here is it fair to just kind of throw a little of the old Kenyan green tape out because he's just he's a completely different different dude body player like that's not even that that guy who played against the Saints who just got just ridiculously embarrassed against the Cowboys like that's not even the same guy yeah I get what you're saying I'm not going to lie to you and say you I remember a whole lot about that Saints preseason game but I'll say this King and green I've I've been saying I thought that year off had to benefit him and honestly the last time he played regular season football which is in that Indianapolis Coast game that I felt like they were supposed to lose and they won anyway he played well nobody want to talk about that cuz that wasn't the storyline after but the last time he played regular season football and it was before all this body transformation stuff he was trending in the right 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is looking just fine I'm not I'm going to talk about your balance and I'm not talking about it I lost over $500 today you got the BR his got stopped everything he was doing you got hold on you got Benjamin Franklin I thought you did well with Verlander you got the strikeouts you got the Homer off of bregman you had a prop bet off of bregman you got the two bases about $10 about $2 on on bregman you had two B you had all you got the bases you needed from Diaz how the hell you lose $500 well here's the story first of all I had a fairly large substantial bet on the Astros winning this series against the Red Sox because they had been so dominant against him it came into this series I think winning six or seven straight um so that hurt I uh also lost a pretty substantial amount on the Astros minus one and over four and a half that one hurt the worst Dy man three for three three what three up three down three up three down and that's minus 500 damn I you need Break Even hey you can get it back tomorrow nail three damn right I mean god dog if you didn't nail that damn home run I mean I thought for sure man that first inning you were good you came back got the strikeouts check he did his deal he said in my ear Verlander strikeouts check well if it wasn't for the Verlander strikeouts and that bregman home run instead of losing 500 a day I would have lost about 750 so I just can't even live like that it's fun it's exhilarating does not sound fun I mean you're in a bad spot right now T but you can get it back tomorrow what your damn ride dirty and that's what we're going to do I don't scared money don't no I I I I I think you should cut you just pull that cash out you're in the green and let's just let's just let's just teal for a little bit I I think might actually do that with the new bronal trip this we I think you should pull a grand let's get through this 14 game stretch here okay all right they got I might be on to something yeah they got the Orioles they got the Royals they got the Phillies like let's let's I could cover my buy in for my fantasy draft this weekend you know what I don't know why I'm wasting my breath you're not going to do that nah I'm not no no that's it's try again B Scott he's owned it oh he said it's this is truly degenerate Behavior he's own this isn't even the worst I mean I'll be honest I've never denied that I am a degenerate I'm proud of 100% all right let's get to Alex breckman Alex bregman who did hit a home run that made you money today uh not enough clearly but he did hit a home run leted the game off with a homer uh and uh but was the DH didn't play in the field did not play Third Base here is here is Alex Brigman postgame about him potentially going back into the field and playing Third Base you feel like you're going to be able to play the field soon um we'll see uh feel like the rest of the year is going to be kind of just a fluid situation take it day by day and see how it feels every single day and kind of make a decision as it goes um through today for the first time um arm felt good um didn't feel any pain or discomfort or anything um but yeah it's just going to be one of those things take day by day and uh kind of see how it feels the rest of the year going forward how you feel about it Ron no fluid situation well this is not good I mean that's your new your new Houston Astros uh DH Alex bregman I thought he was I thought he plays played a light catch yesterday Alex said his first time he threw today uh and by the way more of that bregman said he isn't feeling any pain when swings or throws it's more so if I put my arm in weird positions or sleep weird or something like that that kind of flares it up so uh just trying to not do that also said there swelling obviously there is nothing structurally wrong with the UCL but some little gremlins in there causing some swelling that you just that just are going to have to try and mitigate through the rest of the year and keep the swelling out these guys find these guys find ways man they not only find ways to win ball games like they did earlier this week but they find ways to hunt to just come up with the oddest injuries and now it's fluid it's fluid as you said meet your new third baseman which means your old your or meet your new designated hitter which means your old DH is now your new left fielder every day and that I don't that makes me nervous yeah that didn't make me nervous I mean I we all know it makes you nervous no I I like you I I like you on in the Outfield um I I like what it does for the lineup like you mentioned earlier I like Diaz at first where you can put um a keratin at catcher I I like I like it and now thankfully he can uh Diaz can play first so you don't need him to DH and now you got an open DH spot I know whatman I know you like what do you think what do you think Joe's going to do you think Joe's going to put duban at third every day when it matters when it matters you it's like like if if they started a playoff series right now and I think he'd be at third and he'd be at third he'd be the D and then bregman be the DH bregman be the DH Gordon left field Diaz at first kartini catching all right I I I think that's what he would do now if bregman's healthy uh I still think there's a chance where we could see again this year where dubon ends up in center field when it matters the most oh you think you can see him in Center when it matters the most I mean if if if it can you know if things if things if things unfold that way well they they've loved him they've loved him significantly now it's been more this year you're right yeah uh but but there there's not I mean you can't deny a lot of what we see so we'll we'll see we'll see how that all unfolds I think when it matters most though in the playoffs come around I think they're going to put their best lineup listen I know I'm I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer I mean I but I've got some some cutability but I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but when he says he isn't feeling any pain when he swings or throws are they just are they just saying to themselves we're just need the swelling to go down before we we have you in the field to throw even though there is no pain he says he feels the pain when he did when he puts his arm in weird position but throw like throwing would seem like a weird an unnatural position but I just I don't know when he says no no pain when when he swings or throws I wonder what's the Thought proc process with him not not throwing well I think the the action of throwing is what I don't know that anybody's ever ever needed Tommy John from swinging a bat the action the action of throwing is actually what aggravates whatever's going on in that I guess there's the thought if he throws he makes it worse well even though he's not having any pain yeah if he if he does throw he could potentially make it worse the swelling happens again then he can't swing a bat which I would imagine that's why the last five days he didn't play they said it's still swelling so so yeah I I don't know I'm I'm no doc we'll see I want to try it you want to try what in the in the UCL I want to try to sleep to see if I can get my arm my elbow to swell up like that I got I want to know the positioning he was in cuz I just I just want to experience it 5:00 I don't all I'd like to wake up with all my limbs working just right but a foul tip will end it caught by Wong this time and that'll do it for the Asos and the ninth one hit one left on the Red Sox after losing seven in a row to the Astros over two seasons win the last two games of the series it said Houston on the road with a three and three homee all right uh the Astros lose 4-1 son of oh almost read that Tyler almost that title yeah Tyler titled it son of a almost got him um listen it it was a tough one you lost the Series Tyler lost 500 bucks plus and a lot of it because the BET of the series you lose the series right now you got a 4 and a half game lead I'm sure Seattle will lose uh and uh it'll probably go back to five but you got a four and a half game lead um but I think today for the Astros was a much more positive day bregman returned I don't know if he can throw but he returned and he swung the bat stayed hot but to me the big thing today and what today was about was about Justin verland Justin Verlander in his return from the iil uh goes five innings four hits two earn one walk six strikeouts on 7 76 pitches and this was impressive because he threw 41 in the first two innings and gave up a run in each of the first two innings while throwing 41 pitches and it didn't seem like he was going to last long the most he had thrown in his Rehab start was his last one in Corpus was 57 pitches in four Innings but he got through this thing and in the the third fourth and fifth inning he didn't just get through him he was he was kind of dominant in there a lot of the strikeouts came there so to me Clint this was a win for Justin Verlander and the Astros the way he looked now you feel like he's going to keep building to this and there is confidence that that you may be getting the Justin Verlander that you're hoping to get the front of the rotation version of Justin verl yeah look it's it's just great to have him back and and and at this point appear to have no negative response to the to the the uh the the pitching and throwing 76 pitches in a in a big league game I mean at this point I I'll I'll be I'll be happy with that it was a good day for all of us Astros fans without a doubt um and then obviously the ripple effect of being able to go to the six-man rotation is going to is going to help as you mentioned there's I mean the the workload that specifically ronell Blanco uh has has had is you know to to take a little bit off those guys shoulders or arms literally uh would be big so the the ripple effect of of Verlander being back is is is powerful yeah it was huge man and I like I'll be honest man I didn't really know what to expect I knew he'd battle I didn't know what to expect and then after those first two innings especially what the Red Sox tend to do with with with pitchers and how they work pitchers and make them work that was that that to me is like yo all right that guy's going to start game one that dude like that and the way farber's been pitching now you you feel it you feel really good you know every six days that you got somebody out there with him that's going to like that's the thing is you he wasn't just solid those last three innings were Hunter Brown framber his old top of the rotation guys stuff and that's big time for uh who do who do you get who do you get just on the Astros front not necessar starting pitching we already mentioned ronal Blanco the young arm Spencer arag Getti you wonder about those guys but it it it um it seems like OT is getting touched up a little bit more than than he than he was earlier in the season Taylor Scott yeah yeah probably been seen a lot yeah maybe his arm getting tired too getting up yeah I yeah it could help the bullpen as well um you know depending on how long he's able to go and starts right like hopefully like today was five innings hopefully he you know he can get back to his normal pitch count and that's the thing is these guys aren't just pitching well I mean Kikuchi has perfected the Kikuchi you say yeah he has perfected I love kuchi as Tyler knows he has perfected the five and 2/3 Innings but but outside of that like these guys are are going deeper in games too so hopefully that helps as well only thing is if if somebody blows up like ronell did last night not able to get through the you know into the fourth like now you got to piggy back and and we'll see what happens there but I think all in all a a a big day for the Houston Astros with Justin Bing 5:00 fire all right the Cleveland Browns um are really depending on you know who and Kevin stefansky their head coach Clint said deshaan Watson had General arm sordins today and was held out of most drills I'm not going to let it take my joy oh wow he wouldn't rule him out of playing against the Seahawks but he has not played in oh Tommy John for Deshawn or what I I mean that's a leap I mean let's go let's jump the gun a little on that I'm not wishing it on him or I mean your excitement level would seem to to be rather high but uh that like that is that is I mean that is that is handing the keys to jamus right now not on not on the specific DeShaun wat I gu see he is water has no soul the dynamic of what's going going on in Cleveland is is wild man he hasn't played a preseason game yet I don't think no he hasn't play just just think about all of it Ron I mean not just that he hasn't played but he's making $250 million guaranteed I think it was 230 but I got 230 I'm sorry and jamus Winston is doing everything that you would want your starting quarterback to do he's calling the team up with water you watch these videos he's the one they're you know I called you a fool the other day not literally but damn near did you thought it did you I did yes I thought man you're crazy that dude is a clown you watching videos they are they are Ron they are and he is outside of the silly ass the the comments that he makes like you watch him it it's it's believable water has no soul like that right there he loses me with that stuff right there he's probably got 45% of the team that will follow I wonder I wonder if well every time Deshawn does something like this I'm not saying he's doing it on purpose but every time something like this happens to Deshawn he gains more he gains a bigger percent of of the team you can't tell me you can't tell me right now and I'm talking right now before the season starts you can't tell me that there's not a percent of that team that would just assume have have jamus Winston out there than deshun Watson you can't I mean I'm not GNA let it take my BR he's calling the team up he's giving the team pep talks he's the one that come five he's the one when when they come off the sideline when the special teams that a field goal come off the sideline he's the one giving them low fives man he came he said he was there to serve to serve Deshawn hey man ain't in there he's serving hey I'm going tell you what he he hey look jamus Winston he got that there's a there's a real Jack Easter be Vibe going on and I mean I mean it in a positive way if it if it's even possible I mean that in a positive way like it's hard to use that name and think well I'm I'm talking about I'm talking about how Jack got there like you can't tell me that jamus Winston doesn't smell an opportunity you you cannot tell me I mean he should this dude's out here they're posting video video videos of him pop amping the team up meanwhile deshun Watson is posting videos of him and his gal modeling clothes around a damn you got a littleit was it was clean too boy too it oh it was clean but what the hell are we doing I mean I'm telling you man that that that is cuz he's coming was he he's coming off of of shoulder surgery right yeah that's what he was I mean and this is just general arm sword bro stefansky got to be going man what am I what what is what are we doing well well that's the other part is is like man like when you say the other his teammates like dude you oh is this always something always something man something hurt like are you really are you really this hurt like and meanwhile you out here modeling I'm telling you man that a that ain't going to fly man that ain't going to fly boss yeah by the way also the Giants general manager fellas that uh uh was asked are they looking for any any way to fill up their their quarterback room to and up their quarterback room they said why would we be doing that DeVito or whatever his name is John why would we be doing that all right uh I think this is interesting Clint watched the all 22 and got and got some Intel from other guys that are more experts in Run game than he is and he watched all of the carries of Damen Pierce he'll tell you what he saw did it get better did it get worse we'll just discuss that coming up all right Clint ster here for QC kinetics y'all I can tell you I can tell you how you can get better [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] new episodes every week on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast Houston's Sports leader Sports Radio 610 Sports Radio 610 presents the drive with sterer and huley [Music] no uh no Josh hater today as the Astros lose 4-1 but good news Ryan Presley did throw a bullpen session today and they don't think he's going to need a rehab start a rehab a rehab assignment excuse me so uh whenever he is ready to come off the IL he should join the team immediately so that's good he ain't playing no games with Presley huh no not the back man no fluid situation with the back of Ryan Presley fluid situation with Alex breckman but no fluid situation on the back we'll uh remind you of of that with Alex bregman a little bit later on fluid situation baby he's the new uh as said welcome welcome in to your new designated hitter you're welcome well I want everybody I want to introduce everybody to your new designated hitter for the Houston Astros Alex bregman hey B DH all right uh all right Clint you were sitting here yesterday and you had that look in your eye of it's worse than a fault that's a look that's a look it seemed like you had you had the all 22 and you wanted to sit down and watch from the best angle you could possibly watch to see everything to see it all to see to see um Damen Pierce to see the offensive line to see the scheme to see it all and uh it was bad when we were up in the Press Box and I know you were saying man we you know you just can't they ain't going to be able to continue to just kind of hide this and then you watched it and it seemed like the look in your face it was it was even even worse than you than you initially thought by watching in the Press Box live yeah look Deo ryes talked today about about needing to block it up and Damen Pier need more opportunities they got to block better they got to run block better and there's no doubt about that um but there's there's bad on top of bad when you look at the the first team run plays uh and it's just more of the same of what we saw last year up front and then it's more of the same from Damen Pierce it's just you know there's and there's counters there's uh there's Powers which are both G schemes where you're pulling a guard and leading a guard at guard and a tight end at times and there's true Zone runs uh that so it's it's not one scheme or the other guys I I as I've told everybody all along it's not one scheme or the other it is it is they're doing it all and Damen Pierce for for whatever reason um is is I think the best way to put it is he has he is playing the game as if he has zero instincts he's playing the game as as if he has zero in what do you think he's back there they're thinking before the hand off like you think he's got a whole bunch of stuff in his head just thinking about a whole what do you think Joe mixon's thinking when he sit back there oh I think it's I think it's an afterthought I think it's like I like let me let me put it in quarterback sense right like when I'm quarterbacking like or CJ's quarterbacking CJ has worked as footwork and his drop whatever drop he needs his his ball handling skills he he's worked in so much to where when you say when you call when he calls a play um you know whatever that play may be there is he knows immediately it just triggers the footwork that goes with it and it's all memorized and it's all it's all habit and he just does it because he knows he's going to have to read the safety and react to the safety read the corner does a corner sit hard does a corner bail is it man you know what happens and then you've got to act accordingly do you need God bless brother you bet man you need to throw it with air do you need to drive it like what what kind of throw is it do you throw it outside do you throw it inside do you throw it right at him those decisions are being made in in real time right he's not thinking about his drop he's not thinking about the ball handling like that is that is second nature once he hears the the play call he know that's that is he's like a robot boom I know exactly what that is the part that he's doing is he's reacting to what the defense does post Snap what his key does post Snap to tell him where to go with the football and and the whatever kind of throw he needs to make the underneath coverage is dictating that how tight the corner is is dictating that like Damen Pierce is sitting back there with a play called and he's thinking about his footwork you know what I mean he's thinking about it seems things in his head so I've got a I've got a counter I got a guard tight end counter to my left that means he's this is like when the play's called he's going okay so the guard and the tight endend are pulling I've got to be patient and let those guys go and then it and then when I see the crease hit the crease right instead of just going okay I know what I'm going to do I'm going to take the hand off this way I'm going to get out there I'm going to be patient let the tight end work and then I whatever I see I'm going to react I'm goingon to bounce it outside I'm I'm going to shoot it up inside behind the tight end I'm I'm going to I'm going to react there there is it seems like there's no instincts right that that that's that's a um a counter play that's called which is crazy because we've seen him run with instincts yeah yeah yeah I mean it's it's uh it's it's very interesting um you know that's that's the the the counter play that that that was called um you look at the the run down inside the 10 yard line where it was shotgun and he handed it off and he ran up Kenyan Green's ass right um again that's a g scheme I don't know exactly what kind of scheme it was cuz you had you had a weird concept going on but it's you're pulling the guard and and Kenyan green is blocking could Kenyan have done a better job sure he could have done a better job but at the end of the day the last thing a running back with good instincts does is run up the back end of his of his of his offensive lineman either either stay tight to the the tight end that blocked down before Kenyan green got to his block and hug it hug the tight end's butt and just hit that crease or Bounce It Outside do something other than run right up his tail end you can't you can't continue to do that and then you look at the The Sweep everybody remembers the sweep he threw it out out wide Deo was talking about there's an unblocked linebacker in the hole poor concept Bobby soo's got to figure that out the receiver should have blocked the the the the corner I I get it but when you get out there there's an unblocked linebacker inside dip dip down inside and then bounce back outside that that uh that the lineman that pulled for you but that would be instincts that it's all instincts it's all it's all instinctual it's all post Snap reaction to what's going on and you can't be thinking okay counter these are my steps and I got to be patient which which which would explain sometimes him over him thinking so much that he misses it when he when it's actually there because he's he's got so much I mean you can't in any sport you cannot play when you're up in your head all the time you cannot do it and it's not just reaction you cannot do it and and that to me in all sports that's the thing that makes sense to me like that that that will explain the backslide with Damen Pierce where I think when again I've said this a million times when he was with um PR what's my man pepton Pep Hamilton it was a keep it simple play Fast just hit it down heill kind of kind of style and he did that consistently and the o line played that way consistently th this this is a probably a much more sophisticated ask of of what they think the different stuff that they're trying to run um and and he's just in his head overthinking it and after getting benched last year he the the the way he was doing it with Pep Hamilton got him benched now all of a sudden he's trying to do it their way and he's in his own head and he's losing his instincts and so I think he's just lost Damen Pierce W again is just playing the game I think the best way for me to couch it is playing the game with no instincts after he touches leather and then on the flip side of that this offensive line is just it's it's it's inex usable the fullback on a on a coming out run where the tail back is seven yards Deep In The End Zone after after Stingley pick the fullback just completely whiffs on on on Brian Burns on the defensive end luckily it wasn't a safety um you know that that that just that just absolutely can't happen um I mentioned the the the the play earlier where the wide receiver should have blocked the corner was Diggs I think should have blocked the corner that would have left the linebacker for the for the the the lineman that was pulling schematically that that play shouldn't happen you know not it's not schematics it's it's how you block the corner of the safety and and they they probably they should have blocked the corner so it's not just one thing or the other it's all this stuff and it's all inexcusable yeah yeah unfortunately it it's it's going to end up costing Damen Pierce's job there's nothing you can do with the offensive line the offensive line is you just you just hope like hell that you've got a back that can that can make guys miss and make something out of nothing especially when you see some other backs on the team who have at least at some point have a run or two where they've made something yep you know out of nothing well the that's the thing you're in a position offensively where if your if your back can't make something out of nothing then you have no Run game yeah so it you turn into okay what back do I have that can that can make a guy Miss with as much instant penetration that we're getting or as many run throughs as we're getting with these linebackers how who can change who can reverse field the best yeah right who who who can who hopefully that doesn't mean that Joe Mixon may have to sit too no I mean God that we've hear Joe Mixon talking about being a total back this is a proven total back he should be fine but boy it's it's um for me I it's it's frustrating what I'm watching yeah all right coming up we'll give you uh if you've missed it you're just joining us we'll give you the latest update we'll let you hear here from Alex bregman himself as he uh as he gives an update on his situation uh as well as a few other things and Tyler is uh he said he needs to tell 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bregman and his comments on his situation you don't want to miss that but before we get there uh let's hear it Tyler Tyler you uh you need to you need to let us know an interesting piece about something yeah man um someone in this office made us look like some jackasses earlier in the show oh boy that's not hard to do you got to expl I need more um I will and I need to do some investigating I I don't have a per done I've done it four times on the show today at least me made us look like jackasses especially myself I don't know if you were talking about eating boogers or like that I wasn't sure I was 5 years old man I'm just saying booger EA there there's there's enough booger e there's enough quasi to legit embarrassing things about me that are true that you all don't have to yeah I don't know how to ride a bike very well I've not ridden a bike since that one time I got on it is that my boy Ron okay there are things yeah I'm heavy in some wrong places love handles can't shake them that's just more to love baby I got soft pecks all day long always have feels like a bag of sand no but check it out someone made us look like jackasses I don't know who it is yet but someone in this office y'all saw we talked about this earlier Boss Lady Sarah our boss up here about hill we sang Happy Birthday sang Happy Birthday it's her birthday it's her birthday well fellas happy birthday today is not boss lady Sarah's birthday what no no for real whoever put that just there again it still has a photo of her why there's one behind the front desk there's a a big one behind the front still it's still one right there why is it yeah in our lobby there's a huge picture of her are they aware it's not her birthday I don't know cuz I don't know who it is but it is not boss lady Sarah's birthday so we gave her incorrect birthday wishes earlier yeah are we even close to it I believe it is tomorrow oh you can't make we were first someone jumped 24 hours early you can't make that mistake I know I I know it ain't Leroy I mean well you're the one that brought that's my first gu is Leroy it's my first guest we got to get to the bottom of this and Leroy's got to be on the show tomorrow well you brought it up you're the one that let the cat out of the bag I'll talk to well I walked I've been walking around all day I've been saying happy birthday we got to bring Leroy into this Leroy is the Leroy is the birthday Handler he is that's why it's got to be lero that's got to be Leroy I mean I'm going to do some investigative journalism and we're going to get him on the show just to make sure but it's it's got to be Leroy but yeah it made us look I don't think Leroy would make that kind of mistake I I I would not normally think he would he seems to be right on top of it unless he doesn't come in until later and she gets here earlier in the morning so he wanted it to happen when she got here he would but he wouldn't have done it right now miss I mean jumped the gun on a birthday been on since Leroy was here it it was it was up when I walked in the room in in the building I it was up when I walked in the building before you it was up when I walked into the building before both of y'all that's a I don't think that makes us look like a jackass I mean we went all out all we hady yeah I think now that we've said it what happened I don't think it makes us look like a jackass that person's selfish yeah we'll just have to do it again tell Tony to get them pipes right R rest her rest her pipes I I bet she'll be able to do it if I I bet money I bet she'll be able to do it just like she did exactly I think I would to a te I bet she'll be able to pull that off well uh I would like to say to you Sarah Fraser I uh retract my happy birthday you don't have to retract no I do I want to do it say happy early birthday full name too didn't no no I with an H I'll take I'm taking it that's your fellow jhawk man not until well her birthday is not today it's tomorrow taking it back we'll get it right tomorrow boys yanking it like today was just a good rep you know I mean it's it's important to get good rep walk through good rep yeah and no we were full of pads we were full that was have walk through that gave that was all the way through right there good for her Sarah uh Sarah Fraser not your birthday again all right if you missed it uh the news here after the Astros game uh Alex Brickman played the game hit a home run he let off as Altuve was off they gave him an off day uh today he leads off the first time we've seen him the only run we scored wasn't it yes yep first first hitter first freaking that bad I didn't think about say they had chances they had chances it's a long nine innings uh but they uh they didn't they didn't score after the first batter tough one tough go of it but uh he did he did play but he did not play in the field he was the DH didn't play at third base and after the game people wanted to talk to him because he had not played in five games uh and he was asked uh the next time you'll play Third Base do you feel like you're going to be able to play the field soon um we'll see uh I feel like the rest of the year is going to be kind of just a fluid situation take it day by day and see how it feels every single day and kind of make a decision as it goes um through today for the first time um arm felt good um didn't feel any pain or discomfort or anything um but yeah it's just going to be one of those things take day by day and uh kind of see how it feels the rest of the year going forward all right uh the rest of the year situation things there right go ahead well I mean there's just the rest of the year the shock of the rest of the year and the severity of this thing and and he's just going he he don't even care he's just putting it out there rest of the year what does that mean for Alex bregman um the ripple effect that that means clearly he can hit right he can swing the bat right now yeah he can he can bat right now with less aggravation and less risk that it's going to swell up to a point where he can't swing apparently throwing is is a problem and and could could flare it up and and make it to where he can't can't even hit so I would be a okay with them just moving forward with him as a DH instead of taking the risk maybe if once you get to the big dance if if if he needs to play at that point in time maybe more important the games get maybe I I don't know how that how that changes things but um yeah I think Alex bregman's going to be your DH for a while boys it's wild I guess I guess it'll be when the swelling goes down cuz he is he is repeatedly made it clear that it is there's no pain when he throws or swings can he play first no but I mean they don't I don't think I I don't think now there's a thought but I I don't think they want him to throw while they're swelling right I would imagine right cuz he said the only time he feels pain is when his arm is in a weird situation now I or Weir weird angled or or sleeps weird I would I would normally think that the throwing motion throwing a baseball football that's not a natural motion for the human arm I would think that would count but he says it does not hurt when he throws so I would imagine if the swelling goes down and he still doesn't have pain I'd imagine that's when he that's when he throws again well I mean correct me if I'm wrong but I would think that the fear there is is more of something snapping in there if he does throw and then he can't hit well yeah like yeah this is like it do when you say fluid situation and they can't like they can't like what we're saying what we got from It Started From Him sleeping wrong and they can't seem to get the swelling to go down and this is we're over a week yeah with that cuz he said it was the middle of the week last week we're over a week with that so well the the other part of that there Ron is he he said he played catch today for the first time and I think I think the the the manager said that he played catch played a game of catch yesterday and I I I'm just going to I don't know if I'm going to give the b i I'm just going to think that it was a different level of catch cuz the manager made it very clear yesterday it was a light light catch very light little light catch light catch and he said uh he said today he kind of maybe got it going a little bit but they were well the the good look the good thing is is is that from a lineup perspective you can still put your best lineup out there with with this this this particular situation and you do have defensive answers one in particular that jumps out I'm not sure if they want to do it but you do have defensive answers out there that that you can be silent that's the other part and I think Tyler mentioned it when we first found out about this is that Alex bregman is a great defensive third baseman like he could make like those those bunts or those little Choppers yeah like he he makes those plays he is really good defensively I think duban uh is a guy that I would put there guy I would just say here go ahead let's let's let's leave him there and I I think that's where it seems like you're leaning like hell with this thing maybe we need to revisit this in the offseason or something does he need surgery let's go ahead and and not even put it at risk and keep throwing and keep having even even throwing if his arm can't if they can't get the swelling down yeah well for me it's just it's easy man I mean you if you play him in the field you risk losing him overall so I'll just take his Bat and and and we'll move forward with it and we'll put dubon in the field and everything will be fine now is it is it bregman level glove obviously not but it's pretty damn good so I would be uh I think that would be the move yeah all right coming up behind us Texans all access and a guy who has been a talk of the camp Kenyan green he is going to join the fellas tonight uh Kenyan Green's going to join the fellas tonight on Texans all access Eric Area 45 behind them live and local bajani and kraton Area 45 and Shan Ban's ready baby he's had two bags of uh of Hot Flaming Cheetos and it looks like he's washed it down with a Coke I think that's Cherry that's a Cherry Coke right there boy I give it to him man I think he's done he's he's done a nice job but being as healthy as possible that would that would take me on out for the night into the next day well them Hot Cheetos with was uh that there was a while when there was I could do that two three times a man I love Cheetos I get that middle siiz bag to not the little one the midsize I like to dip mine and nacho cheese o I love Cheetos dude but I never got behind the hot Cheeto thing I never liked them ever yeah and I like spicy food I like Cheetos but I don't like hot Cheetos I like the green the jalapeno one jalapeno CH cheddar that one is that one is give me give me some give me like I used to do I used to go to the movie theater give me a bag of that and then get me a cup of cheese have to get two cuz you know when you open that's good I forgot about them jalapeno cheddar ones so yeah I be honest with you I don't know that I've ever I mean I did I didp my when I was in elementary school I didp my pizza and cheese but the cheese on top of cheese thing is a little aggressive oh you can never have enough cheese I I was always a ranch Dipper in my pizza samies don't say sam sorry say sa I won't do it again same I'll make sure I don't tomorrow he's so comfortable seems all right shout out to uh to our guy Brandon Scott who joined us Texans report 4:00 4:40 uh you can check that out on the podcast page Clint great job as always Tyler great job as well um happy uh birthday tomorrow Sarah Frasier we were first to say it I am Ron hugley as always Houston we love you baby [Music] [Applause] go ahead and give him [Music] that I just want to Cal and Hannah to experience that it's on it's on for Hannah being nice see you're the Hannah 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