'KILLING US!': MSNBC voter panel unloads on Biden-Harris economy

>> Harris: BRAND-NEW NUMBERS ON HOW FAST PRICES ARE GOING UP, THE RATE OF INFLATION TELLS US THAT. AND TODAY WE SEE CONSUMER PRICES WENT UP YEAR OVER YEAR, PRICES BY 2.9%. NOW ALL THAT REMAINS MUCH HIGHER THAN WHEN BY THEN AND KAMALA HARRIS TOOK OFFICE, THIS NEW NUMBER IS THE LOWEST WE HAVE SEEN IN THREE YEARS SINCE MARCH OF 2021. BUT THE PRICES ARE STILL GOING UP. JUST NOT AS FAST. THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. AND AMERICANS ARE HURTING. THEY TELL US EVERY DAY. JUST A COUPLE OF HEADLINES NOW, FINANCIAL PRESSURES ON AMERICAN CONSUMERS CONTINUE TO RISE. AND PAYING THE BILLS IS HARDER THAN EVER. ARE VOTERS SUPPOSED TO FEEL JOY? CERTAINLY VERY LITTLE JOY WHEN EVERYDAY EXPENSES LIKE FOOD, GAS, HOUSING, ENERGY, EVEN AUTO INSURANCE AND PET FOOD HAS SKYROCKETED BY DOUBLE DIGITS SINCE BIDEN/HARRIS TOOK OFFICE, VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS HAS BEGUN TO SHIFT HER SPEECH IS TO REFLECT THE ECONOMY AND WHAT SHE SAYS DESPITE PROMISING TO TACKLE HIGH PRICES FOR YEARS, WE STILL HAVE THEM. >> THE COST OF GROCERIES HAS GONE UP, THE COST OF GAS HAS GONE UP IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IS FOR THE PRESENT ENEMY. >> FIGHTING INFLATION AS ONE OF OUR ADMINISTRATION'S TOP ECONOMIC PRIORITIES. FOR MANY AMERICANS PRICES ARE STILL TOO HIGH AND WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT. WHEN I AM PRESIDENT, IT WILL BE MY DAY ONE PRIORITY TO FIGHT TO BRING DOWN PRICES. >> Harris: A RECENT "FINANCIAL TIMES" POLL SHOWS 1:30 PEOPLE SAYING THEY THINK THEY WOULD BE BETTER OFF FINANCIALLY UNDER KAMALA HARRIS. NBC NEWS TALK TO A PANEL OF BLACK VOTERS IN PHILADELPHIA AND GOT THEIR TAKE ON THE BIDEN/HARRIS ECONOMY. IT WASN'T GOOD. >> WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT MOST RIGHT NOW? >> ECONOMICS, EDUCATION, REENTRY. >> WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO FOR MY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE PLACES WHERE I'M FROM? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO HELP THEIR FAMILY TO SAVE THEIR CHILDREN? WE NEED THE FUNDING. WE WANT TO HELP. >> AND THE WORKING CLASS MOM WHO WORKS AS A PARALEGAL CANNOT BUY A $2 BELL PEPPER BECAUSE IT IS NOW FIVE, IMAGINE A MOTHER LIVING ON FOOD STAMPS. IMAGINE A MOTHER WHO IS MAKING MINIMUM WAGE TRYING TO FEED CHILDREN. THEY ARE KILLING US WITHOUT KILLING US. IT'S EITHER FEED MY CHILD OR HOW ABOUT FEED MY CHILDREN AND I DON'T. >> Harris: GOD BLESS HER, STEVE MOORE, ECONOMIC ADVISER TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT PRICE IS LIKELY MAY NOT GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION. I MEAN, I HAVE HAD EXPERTS TELL ME THAT AND I WOULD LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT AS WELL. DO WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO A NEW NORMAL THAT THAT WOMAN WAS JUST LAYING OUT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING DRASTIC MOVING FORWARD? >> HARRIS, IT IS INTERESTING, IF YOU LOOK WHAT HAPPENED UNDER DONALD TRUMP, BLACK AMERICANS HAD THE BIGGEST INCOME GAINS OF ANY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. BLACK AMERICANS DID VERY WELL. ALSO THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATES IN THE LOWEST POVERTY RATES EVER FOR BLACK AMERICANS AND THEN A CONTRAST THAT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY IN THAT FOCUS GROUP WAS VERY INTERESTING. I HEAR THE SAME THING WHEN I TALK TO HISPANIC PARENTS AND BLACK PARENTS AND EVERYBODY HAS REALLY BEEN CRUSHED BY THIS INFLATION. AND YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT EARLIER, HARRIS, YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD, YES, THE RATES OF INFLATION IS COMING DOWN, BUT EVERYTHING IS STILL GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE PRICE OF GOING TO McDONALD'S, THE PRICE OF BUYING MEETS AND EGGS AT THE GROCERY STORE. IF YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE'S RENT AND MORTGAGES, THOSE ARE UP IN SOME CASES BY 25 AND 30%. NEW REPORTS JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK SHOWING THAT AMERICANS ARE HAVING TO GO FURTHER INTO DAD'S, HARRIS, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PAY THEIR BILLS. THIS IS NOT A GOOD ECONOMY. IT'S AN ECONOMY THAT IS REALLY STRESSING OUT MIDDLE CLASS AND LOWER INCOME PEOPLE. >> Harris: OTHER THINGS I BROUGHT UP WITH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IN AN INTERVIEW WAS THE FACT THAT COUNSELING CREDIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE SEEING A HIKE, A TREMENDOUS HIKE AND PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT -- CONSUMMATE HE HELP ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE MY MONEY PAY MORE BILLS? WHAT DO I NEED TO GIVE UP? THEY NEED COUNSELING BECAUSE THEY ARE CARING SO MUCH DEBT AND BUYING FOOD AND GROCERIES WITH CREDIT CARDS. SO WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HELP THEM ARE JUST OVERWHELMED WITH THE LEVEL OF NEED THAT IS OUT THERE. I WANT TO GET TO THIS, PRESIDENT BIDEN WITH A RARE PUBLIC OUTING YESTERDAY ANSWER THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE KAMALA HARRIS. LET'S WATCH. >> HOW MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE IS VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS THEN YOU AS A CANDIDATE IN THE GENERAL? SPEAK OF THE ISSUES WE WORKED ON TOGETHER MAKE BIG PROGRESS ECONOMICALLY. IT'S A GOOD POLICY. >> Harris: HERE'S A PEEK AT SOME OF THOSE WILDLY EXPENSIVE POLICIES THAT JOE BIDEN CLAIMS NO ONE CALLS PROGRESSIVE. THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHICH DID NOT ACTUALLY DO THAT. MULTIPLE STUDENT BAILOUTS AGAINST THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, HE STILL WANTED TO DO THAT, DID NOT CARE ABOUT THAT. THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, $1.4 TRILLION DEBT INCREASE ACROSS FISCAL YEARS 2022 AND 2023 AND SLOWING LEASES ON FEDERAL LAND FOR OIL AND GAS DRILLING. AND I WANT TO POINT OUT TO THAT SHORTLY AFTER HE GOT INTO OFFICE, JOE BIDEN DECLARED THAT THE PANDEMIC WAS OVER SO CONTINUING TO SPEND MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WAS THERE. BUT IT HURT US. STEVE. >> MORE PEOPLE DIED OF COVID UNDER JOE BIDEN THEN UNDER DONALD TRUMP, WHICH IS AMAZING, BECAUSE THE MOST IMPERIAL STRAIN HAPPENED UNDER DONALD TRUMP, SO WHEN KAMALA HARRIS ATTACKS DONALD TRUMP FOR HIS HANDLING OF COVID MISTAKES WERE CERTAINLY MADE UNDER DONALD TRUMP, BUT IT WAS MUCH, MUCH WORSE UNDER JOE BIDEN. ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS YOU BEEN SHOWING INDICATE THAT YOU HAD A PROSPERITY UNDER DONALD TRUMP AND PEOPLE'S INCOMES WERE GOING UP, THE AVERAGE FAMILY GAINED ABOUT 5-$6,000 IN INCOME WHICH WAS A RECORD FOR THE UNITED STATES THEN UNDER JOE BIDEN EVEN WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION COMING DOWN, THE AVERAGE FAMILY TODAY IS ABOUT $2,000 POORER THAN THEY WERE WHEN DONALD TRUMP LEFT OFFICE, PEOPLE HAVE NOT GAINED, THEY HAVE LOST IT. KAMALA HARRIS WAS IN CHARGE OF TWO THINGS AS VICE PRESIDENT. WE ALL KNOW SHE WAS THE CZAR FOR THE BORDER THAT DID NOT WORK OUT SO WELL, WE HAVE THE WORST BORDER EVER AND SHE ALSO WAS THE ONE WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF HELPING BRING DOWN INFLATION. THAT DID NOT WORK VERY WELL EITHER AND I WILL REPEAT ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE I THINK THAT MOST OF YOUR VIEWERS KNOW THIS, BUT SHE CAST THE TIE-BREAKING VOTE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR THOSE TWO MULTITRILLION DOLLAR SPENDING BILLS. >> Harris: YEAH, I MEAN, JOE BIDEN HAS OFTEN SAID THAT SHE IS THE LAST PERSON IN THE ROOM ON ALL OF THE DECISIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO AMERICANS. SHE WAS THERE, IT'S HER ADMINISTRATION TOO. AND JUST YESTERDAY, THE DAY BEFORE HER CAMPAIGN PUT OUT THAT THERE IS NO DAYLIGHT BETWEEN JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS AND THEIR POLICIES. SO I THINK IT'S CLEAR WHAT HAS NOT WORKED. I WOULD SURMISE WOULD BE THE CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE NOW UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC CHANGES. THANK YOU. >> ONE LAST POINT, I WANT PEOPLE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT LAST POINT YOU JUST MADE, KAMALA HARRIS IS RUNNING ON THE BIDEN AGENDA. SHE IS JOINED AT THE HIP WITH HIM, SO I GUESS WHAT DONALD TRUMP CAN SAY IS IF YOU LIKE THE LAST FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS UNDER KAMALA HARRIS. I HAPPEN TO THINK IT'S BEEN A DISASTER AND I BET