is an interesting one for for KLA Harris and her team is this idea of we're not going back yeah uh and it's such a an a not just powerful but empowering statement in so many ways how do you read that language and and the elevation of this idea we're not going back what does it mean for women what does it mean for uh you know people of color across the country and what does it mean largely for the country itself well I think look I mean the Trump's whole stck is that he's going to bring everyone back to the 1950s so and he's been doing that for eight years right that we're going to go back to make America great again again right right you know original original but you know it's a it hearkens back to Charles Lindberg and Ronald Reagan use the slogan too so it is this uh you know there was a Time in America life when a white man was King right that's really what they're saying is you don't want these people coming to our country you don't want women trying to have their fair share you know you don't want you know you just want to be by virtue of the fact that you're a white man gets stuff and and and you know like I think that is that was sort of the message and here we have a woman who has I mean that video one of my favorite moments is the video that the RNC research account tweeted which was her laughing about how you have to if they don't open the doors for you you have to break down the doors you know if they if they if they don't open the door behind them behind you and I think she's she's uh you know she's a historic candidate she was a district attorney attorney's General first female Attorneys General of the State of California first you know second black woman senator ever right I mean it's crazy you know she was the first um East Asian Senator ever I mean it she was a history maker and the first female vice president so I think that you know you have this one candidate who has this very dark vision of bringing America back to the 1950s ending no fault divorce you know regulating the birth control pill which has been has approval yeah and you know wants to make it so you can't send meth pistone on the mail you know so that you have the Ten Commandments in your schools I mean this is really like you know kind of Christian nationalism sprinkled with 1950 stuff and then you have this other candidate who is just sort of breaking down bar barriers and and and who really has sort of is all about forward motion and has a life that was not available to her mother well it's it's interesting you you hit on a number of things that um that strike records I think particularly ironic ones when you look at and listen to a party that's now and again I'm still a member of this party largely because it pisses them off and and it gives me it gives me the power to look them in the eye and say they're full of and to call them out on it um and it gives me an opportunity to wrestle back at some point uh whatever remnants of of you know traditional republicanism may exist um but at the same time it also uh you know gives an opportunity to sort of push out and and make people focus on the fact that a party that now is deeming itself this sort of white Christian nationalist uh standard Bearer um that is all about telling women uh to to live by the Ten Commandments um and and at the same time um supporting AE a governor governator candidate in North Carolina the lieutenant governor there who from a church Pulpit says it's a time for killing yeah um killing those who disagree with him killing those who in his view um uh stand in the way of you know of pushing out narratives that support Women's Health uh and Reproductive Rights Etc it still amazes me Molly how much of the country buys feeds off that pum and still will buy those narratives which is why I think when you look at this race despite the the good momentum that's created that there's still an appeal out in the country for that there's still an appeal for Donald Trump amongst a lot of Americans amongst a lot of white females who you know Donald Trump won their vote 45% of white women voted for Donald Trump which is yeah and that's in the and that's on the heels of Access Hollywood and and all the other things that we learned um between 16 and and now about this man what what caution do you throw up at this point um for and I'm not going to put this in the context of Democrats running the race but Americans who are who are looking to stand and fight on behalf of the country uh knowing that on the other side of that fight is this this this mindset that says yeah you know let's make America great again yeah I mean I definitely am concerned and I think we all are I mean look the stakes this is not like she's running against Nikki Haley or mitt Romy or someone who's a you know who's who's a respectable conservative who will say I lost we know what Donald Trump's going to do if he loses or if he wins he's going to say he won we know I mean so I do think it's really scary and then the other thing is we know what the polls are showing now and she has a lot of momentum but you and I both know that polls have been wrong and yeah so we really I think that I'm certainly not going to feel great until we're in [Laughter] January so so final point for let you go I I talked alluded to it before and spoke a little bit about it but um when you look at the the very factions within the Democratic party they have aligned themselves very well and I know that there was a lot of concern about the more Progressive members of the party uh but Bernie Sanders has come out and endorsed uh you know Governor walls um aocc I believe has done so the progressive wing of the party seems okay again not saying that that means he is this hard left Progressive but what's your take on the on on the Coalition the the reemergence of the coalitions within the Democratic party coming to um a a better place to move forward into the fall well Joe Mansion also endorsed him so he's got and Joe Mansion is more than happy to be a pain in the butt about stuff right so there's he just not you know he wouldn't just be you know a lot of Democrats you'd say Well they're just pulling the party line but Joe Mansion has no interest in that so look he's a very well-liked governor with a lot of friends and he's very good at reaching across the aisle having relationships with people these are the things you want in a candidate and these are the things you want in a vice president someone who can go I mean one of the the great things that Biden was able to do was he was able to go down to the Senate and make deals and and so I do think it's it's quite good and and I would add that um I I think that I I don't know I mean I think the progressives have been really good partners with Biden and they have been you know Biden has done a lot of progressive legislation but they have really had his back I mean you know to a fault right AOC and Bernie have really had his back um I don't you know I this whole narrative about how how Shapiro was the more cous more electable pick never really held water to me because you know and and again we talked about this a minute ago but it it he he really you know really in my mind was a question was a choice between someone who comes from Philadelphia and is urban versus someone who is sort of from rural Minnesota and his more has a sort of more Farmery uh situation so I never thought of it as sort of left versus right but I think it's definitely being being um you know painted that way I also think that um I I think that he's I think he's also the vice president so he's not the president you know he's and as you and I both know like you you don't want a vice president who take you know where they become the story right yeah and and yeah exactly note to Trump you don't want a vice president who becomes the story