Love Island Reunion, RHODubai w/ Caroline Stansbury, and Love is Blind UK w/ Loren Gray

Intro you're [Music] crazy what's going on everybody welcome back to another electric episode of the v files reality recap Edition I am your host Nick joined by the household and boy this episode is jam packed lots to get into what Sierra the coffee is working today I guess yes know he got to sleep till 7:30 cuz River slept till 7:30 energy at she woke up at 5 and tried to have a 30-minute conversation with us oh so sweet yep so sweet I'm always like River in the nicest way possible shut the [ __ ] up cuz I'll bring her into bed with us after she wakes up at like 5: in the morning when it was a little snuggle time a I mean she usually falls back asleep but do you guys sing to her like Kylie Jenner she's like hor eyes and I guess I sing a little bit yeah okay so what's your what's the song it's not really a Nick hums he doesn't sing yeah I hum I I'm saying I don't know what I'm saying yes well yesterday I read her some Packer articles oh yeah now he's like we need to read to our daughter more and I was like for sure and then I was like Jordan love went 5 for seven today at practice like I was thinking like uh The Wheels On The Bus you know the sweet little books that I have purchased and everyone has given us bookshelf Le from the movie Three Men and a Baby it's not what you read it's how you read it yeah you know got that baby voice words out do you read it very like oh my God I was like Jordan love was 5 for seven today yay oh that's but it didn't throw an interception was she was she interested she fell asleep sounds about I was putting but I was putting her to bed I was putting her to bed uh none of youall are going to fall asleep this episode we have a lot to talk about a lot to get into we got some wonderful guests joining us we have Caroline stanbury from the Real Housewife to Dubai we just I uh I just started watching mhm I'm fully tapped in I've seen every Caroline Stanberry scene thanks to my good friend sweet boy I love Dubai it's really good it's uh it's good I love Sergio Sergio I am Sergio Baby Baby Baby Oh I thought you were calling me I was like yes what do you want to snuggle no I love him you to say TIY TIY ti ti ti uh yeah no uh we're excited to talk to Caroline she G she's really gives a very like Lisa Vander pump maybe it's the Brit in her yeah but she gives kind of like I'm a little bit better than all of you which I kind of love Yeah to her peers well I think part of it is like her and Lisa have the we have real money so we don't need to like really give into the drama and they're performing cuz I exist Rich outside of the context yeah yeah yeah but are not the but the other they all seem to be super rich oh yeah they're all rich but it's like she doesn't have to perform many of the housewives of Dubai are rich via marriage versus like Caroline who's like seems to have been rich as she exited the womb of her mother a lot of them are self-made perod yeah okay some of them have like car doesn't seem to be self she was old money old but then she had money she had money from her ex as well interesting anyways we have Caroline we also have the wonderfully talented Lauren Gray of the Netflix's new movie incoming we also talk a little love is blind UK which is weird to say cuz I always want to say love Island UK now that we're saying like UK and USA we just started watching a little bit we talk a lot about that with Lauren plus a little bat chette talk uh we also have the love Island reunion lots to get into with that Love Island obviously thank you there was well I mean coming up well everyone's talking about Nicole and we had oh no no I know we did our part but I don't know if peacock delivered on their end you there should have been multiple Parts yes that's what I have to say segments real segments why was it do you want to argue about it right now we should we do household headlines felt it felt very like genuine like off the cup we could just go right into it and we could talk about uh it ends with us stuff after great um so first of all way too many [ __ ] people there yep way too many I don't need to see Harrison why are we talking to people that were there for three days exactly wait I I started at CA more and I was like who are half of the people on the couch thank you I didn't need to see was it koi Koy Koy apologized for a live that no one knew about nobody saw it yeah like that you could have just texted DM Jana that you know we don't also I saw DEA did a a a live and Sh I guess at like Ariana was wrapping up the reunion and de hadn't said anything and so then DEA was like well when are you going to get to me and they were like well we don't really have anything she's like well then why am I here because you told me you were going to ask me questions and I was going to get the space to speak they like we don't really have time yeah and she was like and they're like well what do you want to say and that's when she brought up the whole bullying or or so it kind of got cut out of contest and then she was like and then they put it in the like in the middle to make it seem like no that's fair cuz I'm like it makes no sense why half those people there there are people that didn't speak at all and then I was like you asked our main four couples nothing I know nothing about Miguel and Leah I was like why was Leah and Rob the main package and Miguel was cut out of it entirely Serena and Cordell we learned nothing new if you didn't follow them on Tik Tok on Instagram that you didn't already know they're the winners okay but we gave de or uh Andrea Andrea got 40 minutes of the entire of the entire reion a lot of Andrea it was only Andrea yeah that's true and the whole 15 minutes of their the actual back seat like which I don't fault you guys fault Andrea for I feel like they Andrea I think I felt like they were all kind of coming for her and she was trying to explain herself I love PPG but I don't agree when people are like you just need to sit there and be silent and then I like like ber you yeah like that's how I felt like they were making fun and poking at Andrea but they were like you have to sit there and just be silent yeah I feel like there's a lot of commentary in the Zeitgeist of of Love Island that about like maybe some mean girl sentiment from some of the cast I think it's a very interesting Dynamic of one I can relate to in the sense that like these shows there are there are hierarchies right and there's hierarchies you know one it's just it's always very high school I thought it was very awkward that they they put Leah on the spot to talk about how many followers she has in a room full of people who all wish they had the same amount of followers like how is how is Leah going to answer that question in a way that's not going to potentially open her up for criticism it's like it's let's talk about how how much money we all make you know and we all wish we made a a million dollars and some of us are making a million dollars but some of us like aren't making any money but let's just put the person I it's just a tough spot to be in that being said too it's just like the PPG and the final couples like just like in Bachelor world like if you make it to hometowns your lived experience on that show is night and day different than than someone who win home week two it just is yeah that being said the people who go home week two week three they have their own experience their own lived experience too it is sometimes frustrating for people who go all the way so to speak to hear some of the commentary from their peers compare their uh living experienced right right or wrong I just I know what it's like to feel like you you you don't know what it's like to be in my shoes you didn't have the same experience and then people who are on for like a couple episodes will talk about the show you know granted CU they're they were on it they were there they know certainly a lot about what it's like to be on love Island way more than us right so they're they're speaking from a position of being an expert which to some degree they are but compared to like the PPG or the final cast it's like it is a night and day difference and so there is always going to be a bit of a hierarchy with people and a frustration from people who go all the way hearing from people who like honestly are speaking on things that in some cases they honestly don't know what the [ __ ] they're talking about right and I think sometimes that can present is a bit you know mean girly in a way like they were we were just seeing a bunch of reaction shots from a lot of the cast when other people were talking you know which kind of presented as a bit like snarky or whatever and maybe maybe that's what they were doing or maybe it was just awkward or maybe they weren't really I don't know like I just think sometimes when you were go off people's facial reactions to judge their opinion on something it can be a very misleading I mean that's very I mean that is how reality TV is made to like mat to to to show a facial reaction and and put it up with some sort of voice over or whatever and show and I'm not saying that's what was done but even like there was like uh even our or Nicole interview or Aaron like I think there are some moments where n and I like you look at us and almost looks like we might be smiling sometimes could be awkward to like and you're in a uncomfortable setting and there's a lot of emotion and it's like sometimes your facial reactions don't match the the feelings that you're having and there's a lot of that going on and I think we all need to maybe pause a little bit before we jump on and and be like body Lang language experts and start reading people's like social cues and things like that but I have a little bit of empathy for like the PPG and I I and and I want to defend them for any kind of criticism about like being mean girls and things like that because I I think it maybe comes from a place of frustration of how their peers handle themselves at the same time I do think you know the Andreas of the world and the the you know um the deas like they do have a lived experience of you know of their own and I do feel like Andrea was just trying to articulate that and I wish I I would have seen a I would have liked to seen a little bit more like empathy understanding from the main the original cast because it it didn't land as well as I I think maybe they wanted it to I agree with that and I was also like the thing that I do like or that I will defend for PPG is that I'm like they didn't go on podcast and all of these interviews talking about other cast members they just talked about their experience where other people were going on these podcasts and making them the subject of their of their experience yeah yeah I don't agree with a lot of what Andrea said but I I understand her explanation of being like I was just trying to respond to all these people coming at me and I think what's very clear is that coming off a love Island which is someone who knows what it's like to come off a reality TV show is such a different experience and these people are ill prepared for the onslaught and the intensity of the fans reactions and honestly I don't even think the producers were as prepared because this show has never been as popular as season 6 was and the intensity is now matching the intensity of UK and it's it's scary and and dangerous how intense some of these fans can be I just also wish that they like organized it a little bit better segmented out the reunion because it was kind of strange how they started off with everybody else and then they brought out the the four winners but like there was nothing there was no reason why the four winners weren't brought out at the same time where I'm like why didn't you give everybody who's on the stage their space to say what they needed to say and then we can focus on the winners and hear from them as well but we got none of that like why was Nigel Cass hakee why why were they all there I I H if I had to guess my guess is is that they probably had the best of intentions of of kind of giving everyone their space or whatever but they showed up and the thing about reality TV is what producers are always the best at is just kind of like having a plan but being willing to adjust on the Fly because they they want to keep it as authentic as possible so they show up kaylor's ready to like give Aaron a [ __ ] like talking to you have the Nicole and Kendall of it all and it seemed like in the Andrea of it all and it seemed like that t took up a lot of the time of the time I think the only thing that I don't really understand is like you you were really into it I mean Sarah and I see on the same page I don't really get the whole why why did we need 15 minutes knowing that we had I I mean I guess I thought there was way more reunion after that but it felt like the entire reunion was that conversation about did Leah take the back seat or not and I guess yeah in the moment it was like cuz I didn't know how much was left I was like oh this is kind of interesting to like actually see the full conversation and it was definitely all of them were involved you know there wasn't you anyone who sat quiet you know and didn't say anything so I think that was interesting but then it just that was kind of it because my big takeaway is oh they all tried to be as Fair as they [ __ ] could to Andrea and uh Nicole at the time right I you know I don't agree with when the PPG was like cuz Rob was like well listen we just approached a different way and when it when it all went down way back when and that was our take it was like I remember being like well listen I get why the PPG did it I don't know if I would have done it that way but whatever you know I think we were all at the time being like well just kind of own that you just wanted to keep your girl right and at the reunion I think Jana was just like well that's not even how it was because most of that conversation was do we keep Andrea or do we keep Nicole because immediately Jana was safe but that that's still like just because you made that decision quickly doesn't mean that your top priority was to save your friend right that was the decision like you that it wasn't the hard decision the hard decision was who do we send over after we keep our friend but that was the the focus of your decision was we're keeping jine no matter no matter what that's not even a conversation so like and that was Rob and Aaron's point where it's just like at the time Nicole seems to be in a relationship with Kendall she's looking at you know also Miguel Rob and Andrea seemed to be hot and heavy you know you can debate whether Andrea was there for the right reasons and and Jana at the time God bless her we love her and thank God she stayed around because she found love with Kenny at the time she was straight up single as [ __ ] and so at the time Rob and Aon were like what what you know which makes a lot of sense I didn't really understand why all of a sudden they were like you know it see made a lot of sense that Liv seemed to need to apologize because like you know it was interesting that Leah Leah didn't speak for 2 minutes and then she spell plenty but at the same time it didn't seem like she was I don't I didn't get the sense that she was she had a a case against Andrea she was just making her but I think what it all came down to the miscommunication between Leah saying I was trying to take a backseat and then Rob going to live and Kaylor and saying she took a backseat I think that's what the entire conversation ended up being was this like semantics of words that kind of got over one word over one trying trying exactly it was a game of telephone and I don't think anyone in that I don't blame Rob any more than I Blame You know I don't think Rob had ill intentions as Rob was pointing out at the time this happened I still had a interest in Leah you know it was and he heard something from Leah and yeah we're talking about one word I don't know it seemed like Liv should have apologized and she did appropriately I didn't really understand why other than all of a sudden all the attention went to Aaron and Rob and being like it was actually your guys's fault because they were upset with their the the ppg's decision at the time which it seemed valid okay I feel like we are also spending just as much time as a reunion spent talking about it but Kaylor and Aaron too I thought that was a big deal for me because I was like I feel like I was oversold on like the drama and then it lasted for like three minutes it was Aaron got three words out Kaylor eviscerated him switch seats and then never to be spoken to again yeah and I feel like that's what everyone kept saying was like oh my gosh the reunion is so messy because Kaylor just like delayed the process she and she delayed the process and they were arguing and they were so just like back and forth and she just like went at him for so long and it's like never so when I don't know to me it was uh a little bit of a snoozefest but um you know I guess what are you going to do most of these people are happy and I think a lot of them are just mad at fans for bullying them which they have every right to be and I feel like that was yeah the focus let's talk about the call in kendle of it all obviously very sensitive subject we had Nicole on yesterday in an episode of going deeper I feel like she was put in an impossible situation yeah I don't think the reunion was the place to talk about this or come off like you're talking about it for the first time cuz that's what it felt like but like you know and also we don't know exactly what was said this it takes five or six hours to film this thing and then it's all edited down context is completely lost again I have no idea in what context this conversation started it's just one of those things even when we talk to Nicole we tried to be as sensitive and as as as careful as possible to not focus on the leaks yeah right but at the same time try to acknowledge that Nicole is a human being in this situation and she is in a real relationship outside of the show from Nicole's World her whole world knows about it everyone's asking about everyone's talking about it with her we interviewed Nicole before I got a chance to watch her reunion right so we didn't really know exactly what happened uh so we just wanted to have Nicole have the floorida to share her truth and share her story and the takeaway I got was Nicole was very vulnerable and very openly talked about like she doesn't feel very confident in her own decisions in relationships she was she talked about her past you know her decisions in those relationships she didn't she didn't come off saying like I'm really I've learned a lot from my past and now I know how to operate in relationships she was pretty open about like I'm trying the best I can I have some past trauma the trauma of like trusting people people who lied to her and she was open about that on the show and then you have this situation that like she doesn't know how to talk about it or if she should talk about it but then Kendall's talking about it and then then now everyone else knows about it you know the big takeaway for us is that Nicole was just more like I don't know who I'm dating I don't really believe the things that are coming out of his mouth he still seems to be moving in a way that seems shady he's not acting like someone who wants to like fix this relationship she is only seem to be focused on fixing this relationship she's not post online she doesn't look like she's like interacting with fans she's trying to like it just seemed like she couldn't win because she can't you know know and to a lot of people and I understand why they're just like you can't bring this up and people are just like well Nicole's trying to victimize herself for Kendall's trauma and it's just like well from Nicole's point of view she is in a tough situation she's you know in this relationship with someone she cares about she's not really sure you know if she should trust this person she's kind of confused I just I don't just don't know if there's a a situation or I don't I don't have I don't know how she should have handled it without any type of criticism whatsoever I don't know I mean I think the like important part and I think everyone should go and listen to the episode because she does go in detail about it is that this wasn't the only time he had lied to her and so I think it was something they could have worked through and then he continued to lie about other things and it just made all of them feel like too much yeah that's was my perspective of what Nicole was saying and again you should go listen to it and and create you know make your own opinion but we all made it very clear that it's not what happened to Kindle is illegal it's [ __ ] up it's not right it's it's disgusting it's scary and it's not about that it's not about the content it's not about you know what happened I think from my take of what Nicole was saying is Nicole left that place being in a relationship saying I love you to this person which was very difficult for her mhm mhm then for there to have their first you know adversity and she goes to him and she's there for him and she's like whatever you need I'm here and he lies about what happened which I completely understand why he lied you know and I I do believe that he deserved Grace in that period And I think she was willing to give him that Grace until he lied again yeah and I think she was me she literally referenced this podcast she's like you went on a podcast and I we had no idea like what conversations that were going on between Kendall and Nicole when Kendall came on like we're g we were like would you like Kendall on we're like yeah we'd love that you know we didn't even ask like well about Nicole and Kendall and I think Nicole watched that interview and was very frustrated with how Kendall talked about their relationship and it you know so in Nicole's mind she's like you're going out there and you're talking about us in ways that I don't feel are accurate and like how does Nicole respond to this and the whole Crux of this whole conversation is about something that no one really wants to talk about and yet it's it's something that's front and center with how she feels about the situation someone she's trying to build a relationship with it's a [ __ ] up situation it's a KN in situation I this I think people need to be very careful about going after Nicole and accusing her of taking advantage of a a very unfortunate situation the person we talk to seemed like someone who was really struggling with how to figure out how to move forward with someone she does care about wanted to make this relationship work they broke up last night I can't help but wonder if it seemed like honestly Nicole stuck by Kendall side and again you can criticize how she did that but she did where right or wrong I understand where she was talking about one she's got has a history of like staying in Rel toxic relationships lot much longer than she knows how to just the whole dynamic you know about the you know the popularity the it group Kendall is part of the it group more so than Nicole is these are very intimate relationships this is a very crazy experience they all lived through there's a lot of fear of feeling like an outsider right or wrong you know and she has to weigh that Dynamic and so I don't think she really knew what to do but as soon as Nicole caught heat from America Kendall just broke up with her I mean we don't know the conversation and what he said and his reasons behind it but you know she definitely did see seemed like she wanted to work through it and I think we asked her a lot of those questions going back to the Kaylor and Aaron of it all I think Kaylor had every right uh to come at him I think him finally admitting to putting his hand down Della's pants and all of that at the reunion for her to hear for the first time finally I felt was a little ridiculous I think Aaron makes very poor decisions I think he's a very good guy and I think he has a good heart and obviously we interviewed him and we very we you know when we interviewed Kaylor we had a very strong opinion on Aaron and we were very much like I think you should break up I think he's not a very good guy or just not her guy you know it's like yeah and then I think where we came from with our interview with him was we saw a very Broken Man Broken Man and um yeah I I think he just makes very poor decisions but he I is a good guy but I kind you know someone said something yesterday I wish I could remember because now I'm just speaking kind of vaguely aon's explanation to Kaylor I don't agree with it's very immature but it's also incredibly relatable and and most people honestly I think operate more like Aaron than they do Kaylor and what I mean by that CU Aaron was like listen like I couldn't find the right time you know I didn't want to ruin the vibe and like we didn't see each other and it never felt like a good time if you can't relate to that you're just not being honest with yourself we' we've all been in those shoes before where it's and the reality is when it comes to tough situations and being a mature adult is Bec is realizing there is never a good time to deliver bad news and you're always just going to have to rip the Band-Aid off and you're always going to have to kill the vibe but like that's sometimes you have to do that you know but it's very Rel very relatable for people to just be afraid of when do I do this when do I do this and and and not find the time that's not an excuse but I at least understand where Aaron's coming from it's a very human reaction it's immature for sure but it's not evil it's not he's like it's not because he's a love bombing [ __ ] who's just like a piece of [ __ ] he just needs to grow up a little bit and I think that maybe this experience will is a very tough lesson I just to n's Point like we don't need to go after Kaylor now she was more than Justified to like get this off her chest invent Aaron on camera lied to Kaylor and and made her look like fool mhm and on camera Kaylor deserved the opportunity to defend herself and just vent and get it out it's like the audience is like first demands Kaylor to like stand up for herself and then when she does then the audience wants to say well whoa that's a little too harsh it's like let's just enjoy the the reality of these people being their authentic selves and and maybe not you know give your com I mean we love to talk we love to talk about it like I think there's a way to talk about it with without going after these people in their DMS and reaching out I mean like I think Nicole is is getting like eviscerated in her DMS and people are saying just the worst [ __ ] about someone who maybe handled a very very difficult situation not in the best way but like good luck hand if you in Nicole's shoes I think it's very easy to say how you would do it but when when you're in their shoes and maybe you have you're in a situation where you care about someone but don't fully trust them and then you want to give them the chance to operate in a way and then they still don't do that and there's other I don't know I think it's very easy to talk about how you would do something in a situation you have no context of how it's like to be in their shoes have y'all seen this Tik Tok drama what Tik TikTok Love Triangle Tok Drama Oh my gosh it's between these two influencers okay it's like the first time that I've seen other influencers like speak out and give their opinion on it so it's these two New York influencers one's name is hiy the other one is Sophia okay I kind of saw a little bit of this yesterday influencer world I think in general is pretty small so like in you know there's tons of events you see the same influencers there it's the same way especially in New York but so these two girls you know had been around each other several times at at events and whatnot hiy refers to her and Sophia as friends I guess they were friendly they had like gone out to get drinks after an event uh you know one time and sopia refers to them as co-workers which I feel is absolutely [ __ ] bizarre this is not Nordstrom hie has a boyfriend named Reed okay they dated for I don't know N9 10 months the only reason sopia knew anything about Reed is because hie talked about him posted photos of him whatever they broke up it was a very public breakup hie made a lot of Tik Tok videos about it because it was kind of out of the blue out of nowhere and Sophia is going through hi's tagged photos to find Reed and she DMS him the night after they were out drinking after an event okay DM's him and is like we should go on a date they go on a date how do we have the DM how do we know about the DM I think both of them talked about it I know Sophia H made like hie this when this happened hi made it very public she posted a lot of Tik toks about it yes and they broke up that Sophia because I guess you know New York is small people are seeing Reed out with Sophia and whatever whatever so hie makes this very public Sophia gets a lot of hate she almost gets cancelled this was a long time ago Reed and hi are back together today oh yeah right great for them they were recently on their podcast and Reed and H and they podcast together hi has a podcast and Reed was on it they uh were catching some heat because it seemed hie asked a question and Reed seemed very checked out seemed like he wasn't really interested and they were like oh my God babe like he does not like you you need to run so she was kind of catching some heat and Sophia saw this as an opportunity to reach back out oh no to tell her side of the story oh okay so she makes a three-part I was like holy [ __ ] she she makes should we go day two she makes a three-part Tik Tok get ready with me story time about the time she almost got canceled from a girl she barely knows her coworker her coworker and she talks about this date with Reed and Reed and hie are currently together and she sits there and she's saying it was he took me to this beautiful magical place and when I got up to use the restroom he grabbed me by my waist and he kissed me and it was magical and it was beautiful and it was no sopia and she goes into all of this detail Roman how oh my God yes and Reed is currently dating hi and this is all based off of some fans listening or watching their podcast and not appreciating Reed's body language because he was kind of checked out during a podcast I guess and so kind of like you know it made it brought their relationship back into you know the spotlight Sophia has like you know read these messages that hie sent her and was like we were not friends she had to text me and introduce herself to me he was single at the time like I had every right to go on a date with him and I think fans are like and other influencers are like this is so [ __ ] weird because one you only knew about him because of hie he's not a public figure he's not in in this world like you only know about him because hie talks about him y'all are not co-workers like this is again not Nordstrom Rack like you're in the same space it's very small and then to like sit there and be like oh my God it was just like the best date ever and he like brought me coffee the next morning and he brushed my hair and he brush her hair he's also supposedly like not like a talkative person or something and she was like oh he talked the night away and people are commenting like this is not the same person yeah exactly and so I think it just is um you know a crazy question of like do you talk about someone's boyfriend like that no I think in general we have gotten way way way too comfortable of just airing any laundry whatsoever online just because it's your lived experience yeah and yeah it's just like we don't need you you you you don't need to talk about every interaction you had with any other human especially if they're also a public figure and let's be honest when you do that you are clout chasing you are you know it's it's also the weird like the casualty of like doing your makeup while trying to expose someone like where you're just like this you know what I casually want to do today ruins someone's relationship and then she at the end end of the video she goes now go to part two if you want to hear the rest of the story and see the Glam it's like whoa yeah it's just I don't know it's and also like I feel like El in the room like if a if a guy ever talked about a girl this way I think he would get crushed be like oh my God don't kiss and tell and blah blah blah blah blah I just cannot imagine like one of your exes publicly being like Oh my God and then when we just Nick just swept me off my feet and like what and she wasn't even an ex Tech it they went on a couple dates it would be just I think is uncalled for if let's say she gave him a bad review it's like oh he only talked about himself he open the door I don't know whatever it is like let's say it was just a bad day but ultimately he didn't like do anything wrong it was just like she didn't Vibe with him or let's say he just wasn't interested you go on a date with someone and you're not interested in that person what do you think that person's experience is going to be they're going to be like that person sucked you know you know like you know because like it's like they didn't ask me any questions well because they showed up and immediately decided they didn't want a second date with you yeah if she would have also that yeah again if she would have gone on there and been like oh my God it's just like talking about her boyfriend in any way is is Bonkers short of him doing something insanely inappropriate to her and and you know making and doing something wrong and putting her and victimizing Sophia where she felt like hey I need to speak my truth because this guy did something wrong you know and I mean like wrong wrong not like you didn't like the restaurant you picked out for you or whatever yeah it's just it's [ __ ] you know we just Gott way too comfortable of just like thinking that like our our lived experiences is you know that involved anyone else are fair game to just put out in public I think it's just like the only word I can use to describe this Sophia girl and I don't know either of them I've never met either of them I this is the first I've heard of this these two people in this love triangle and I think Sophia is so weird for doing this yeah it is giving like the most pikme it is it's like delusional it's just so weird it's like she saw this opening of like oh hi is getting a little bit of hate let me this is my time to shine you know what it is is all you know it's it's the influencer world and it's just like you look at your engagement and anytime it's a slow [ __ ] week you you panic and you talk about how your bread is buttered and it's like it's your job and and and yeah it's like it's it's that's when people are like so four years ago I'm not going to name names so you can guess but I'll give you hints I ran into an influence um at a restaurant she has blonde hair and first name starts with a B last name ends with an S and she um told me that I my outfit was ugly yeah so figure out who that is and then let's cancel her like that's what that's what we're doing right now are these makeup influencers no they're just like fashion every day cuz like makeup influencer like the world on YouTube got cancelled like five years ago because the whole point was makeup and like cancellations like drama and then people were like this is getting too much it's too toxic so on YouTube now the makeup drama doesn't really exist but it's moved to Tik Tok yeah I feel like Tik Tok has just become this new place where everyone just has online feuds and spats anyways it ends It Ends With Us with us drama I feel like we it's we've got to move past it now Brandon has spoken his piece and for those of you who don't know Brandon is atlas he makes he plays Atlas yeah yes in the mov he's in the movies yeah he he is Blake and and Justin's co-star correct and he released a lengthy statement to Instagram saying vilifying the women who put so much of their heart and soul into making this film because they believe so strongly in its message seems counterproductive and detracts from what this film is about it is in fact the opposite of the point yeah that's incredibly true I think women love to hate other women and they are dragging Blake Lively in any sort of way when I think it has absolutely nothing to do with how they are selling this movie marketing this movie I think it has something to do but I think to your point the feud between Justin and theast oh yes yes yes but the audience is just locking on to the mistake that Blake made which is like again poorly you know being out of whatever out of touch misguided took the wrong advice who [ __ ] knows where this is coming from and then you have Justin saying all the right things and then people just deciding they know what what this Feud is about or not even caring what the feud is about but deciding who side they want to take based off of again I we live in a world where you don't agree with who's right you like who you agree with and so now every one is just agreeing with how you know again understanding why like so many people are personally affected by this movie and you know understand that they appreciate the way Justin has gone about it you know I can totally get that but yeah it's um what was some of the feedback we got uh on how what did people say in the comments for recap yeah on reality recap I mean a lot of people took I mean everything we've been saying a lot of people took Justin Balon side of being like he's the one that's advocating and saying what's true about the movie but then also people are defending Blake saying like there must have been more that happened besides just marketing and I think like this coming out now shows that it's not the marketing that whatever it may be there might have been something else like it's not coincidental that the whole cast isn't unfollowing him and whatnot I've heard there's a lot of little things that happen and and there's very specific reasons why the cast feels the way they do about Justin and it has to do with everything that happened while filming this movie uh and things on set one more thing before we move on I'm really glad that Brandon came to the defense of his co-star Blake Lively but you know who didn't Justin and I know some people are to be like oh well anytime Justin's asked about Blake he always says nice things and that's yes he does he says kind of these generally nice things about Blake but he hasn't come up in defense of Blake you know he hasn't come out and said hey what is going on is wrong there may be some differences between me and my co-stars but like this is not appropriate for the internet to be trying to take down Blake Lively here and again if you've ever read Justin's content or listen to his show you would think that a man like Justin would speak up against what seems to be this online takedown of a woman in this scenario and he hasn't and I just think that says something and I know a lot of people disagree with me and I know Justin says the right things and I appreciate for all the people who are touched by this movie and it's a very sensitive topic that they really appreciate Justin saying the right things but that again doesn't mean that in practice that he actually lives out these types of things that he talks about get if you've ever seen his engagement video it is a 26 minute video of a man proposing to his wife and it making it all about him like it's one of those things where you can't you can't accuse Justin of not putting in a lot of effort in this video it's like he he wants to look one way and comes off a different way and I just think it says a lot that Justin hasn't spoken out against all the hate that's going towards Blake because again if you've ever read Justin stuff that person would seemingly have done that and he hasn't and again I think you got to start asking yourself the right questions and you got to start reading between the lines uh about like who we think we should you know side with in this feud between Justin and Blake do y'all want to hear something that is crazier than it ends with us drama would love to okay Disney this man at Disney sues Disney because his wife dies after a severe allergic reaction in a Disney restaurant so he sues them on Disney grounds on Disney grounds it's a restaurant not owned by Disney but on Disney property so if you go to like Disney World and walk around the pier there's a bunch of like breweries and things like that or downtown Disney however it is on Disney property the husband and the wife told their server that the wife has a severe allergic reaction to Dairy and nuts they you know assured her that she was going to be fine she was not fine she was dead mhm she passed away she passed away and lawyers for Disney said the matter should be referred to an outside arbitrator when picallo the husband signed up for Disney Plus account what you stream Disney movies on in 2019 and said he waved his right waved his right it's also just the free 7-Day free trial yeah it wasn't even like a full subscription he just signed up for the 7-Day free trial and apparently whenever if you don't read the terms and agreements which who does they're like 900 pages long um it says in there that you wave your right to directly Sue Disney so if you have ever watched Disney Plus or signed up for if you've ever signed up for Disney plus and you go to any Disney property they can do whatever the [ __ ] they want to you they say that is scary they could they could walk one of their employees could walk up to you take a baseball bat to your face and just because you watched the Mandalorian MH you have somehow forfeited your right to uh repercussions repercussions yeah that's [ __ ] crazy why is why he was only suing for $50,000 right so it wasn't even that's a penny yeah for Disney literally the bad PR alone is going to cost more than 50 Grand this is giving succession to the theme parks it's also giving like now you yeah you're telling the world that whatever happens at Disney like what yeah you signing up for Disney plus you can't protect yourself ever if anything happens at disne dir Disney is weird when it comes to Deaths too because there's this known thing that if someone passes away on Disney property they don't pronounce the death till they're off the property that doesn't mean they didn't die but but to them to them they can claim like nobody ever dies here like this is the happiest place on Earth are they like carrying the bodies out of the it's giving suc parked oh that's soy Disney do better come on someone died and again it's $50,000 so like I love Disney I'm not going to lie but I'm like at the same time I'm like that makes zero sense the amount of money you make in a day just from one Park alone let alone it cost $50,000 to go to [ __ ] Disney World it truly does to eat let's give them their money back yeah from merch alone it's probably 50,000 in a de someone said Walt Disney is rolling in his grave yeah didn't he probably create all of these no no not the park you think Walt made it the happiest place and then everyone else corrupted it yeah probably I think a lot of like corporate people came in and said how do we make more and more more all they care about is making money like the if you look at the CEO's salary like it's it's a joke and he was the one that was telling people he went on like a private billionaires Retreat or whatever while people were like suffering and he was like during the writer strike and was like I don't really know that we need to give them any more money while he's on a private jet yes of course on a private island for billionaires yes of course relatable Bethenny Frankel very relatable uh you know it's not relatable Bethany Frankle uh did you see this I did I actually appreciate this about be Bethany okay say more please do for those of you who don't know Bethany uh gave a review about some sort of chicken salad at some sort of like small shop or round round swamp chicken salad Hampton staple and it seemed like PE that people you know hey Bethany Frankle likes it so people started asking for this chicken salad so Bethany feeling very good about the good deed that she did decided to show up to this uh restaurant and film the whole thing being like I'm about to walk in I'm really expecting a lot of Fan Fair I'm I'm expecting praise I'm expecting everyone to thank me and let me know that I basically changed their lives because I posted a video talking about their chicken salad and people did not ACT people she walked in and they're like welcome to rounds chicken they did not meet her expectations they were nice to her they just didn't recognize her so she was mad at the fact that they weren like oh my God you're Bethany so it was very clear that you know and to No Surprise Bethany outed herself as someone who doesn't do good deeds to do good deeds she does Good Deeds for the credit right which honestly I kind of appreciate I really do because I I'm very skeptical of again unfortunately good things are weaponized all the time I think that a lot you know a lot of found ations are are hot beds for fraud and Scandals and people to represent themselves that's why you know this whole Blake versus jant thing I'm very skeptical of the person person who like constantly is always on message and says the right things and it's just like do I think Blake's wrong for being rude sometimes but at least rude people in public you know who they are they they are unapologetically themselves and again you can call them a jerk but at least they're not misrepresenting themselves and at least Bethany you know where Bethany stands you know what I'm saying she's not even pretending to do good things for anyone else but herself and yes self-centered narcissistic of course but I I know where Bethany Frankle stands and that makes me feel safe around Bethany Frankle uh I find it hilarious that she went from like being mad that Chanel won't let her in for like a a line of people waiting versus now the chicken salad like her di her range and like being irritated is there's no yeah it is it's it's I mean she's so incredibly out of touch at least she owns it she's entertaining but somebody who doesn't Chappell Roan want recognition apparently or uh is wants to enforce her boundaries Chapel rone responds to fans crossing boundaries receiving praise and backlash she posted her thoughts on Tik Tok if you saw a random woman on the street would you yell at her from the car window would you harass her in public would you go up to a random lady and say can I get a photo with you and she's like no what the [ __ ] and then you get mad at the random lady so she's saying that like obviously she came into Fame came very very very quickly had like the most with the largest crowd of blala paloa ever out of nowhere too out of nowhere yeah like a couple hits came out and I think she's overwhelmed and so she blew up a year after her album release yeah so she's been around for like seven years and like nobody really knew her like she's been smaller I did know her anyways that as said um she blew up and now like people are mad that she's not taking pictures with everybody her family like went private on Instagram cuz they're going through her family members and like getting mad at them for not connecting the two yeah and like now people are getting mad that she's like can you just give me space which I'm like I feel like it's something that needed to be said because I'm like it makes sense in the past when you didn't have access to celebrities the way that you do now you have Instagram Tik Tok lives like you can literally know what they had to eat that day so I'm like the the need to harass somebody in public just trying to live their lives not being on stage not being on the clock it's like as a human being that has a talent are they not allowed to like have space for themselves and not be constantly needing to take pictures or appease random people cuz you wouldn't do that to a random person on the street you really wouldn't you wouldn't follow them around a store if they said no for a photo mhm and you wouldn't be weird if somebody was like no I don't want to take a photo with you cuz I don't know you you also wouldn't if they do say no you wouldn't then go on social media and being like Oh my God this random woman I asked for a photo and she said no like she's such a [ __ ] [ __ ] let's cancel her yeah cuz that's what happened with uh what's her name Renee rap remember when she didn't take a photo and then it was like somebody goes online makes a whole video about what a [ __ ] she is and it's like she at Coachella at a VIP area hanging out she could be doing just whatever recreationally having fun I don't want to stop having fun with my friends to all of a sudden be like oh must do my work she's kind of similar to Leah where she went from literally like 20 40,000 followers to like Millions top of the Billboards yeah out of nowhere like people just don't know how to act around celebrities I mean I I see the perspective of the fans to a certain degree I mean right after the Olympics uh Lebron James was videotaped you know kind of a aggressively turning down a kid asking for an autograph and I watched that and I was like come on LeBron like I look at LeBron who's like been in the Limelight for his whole life and it's like you couldn't you couldn't help this kid out I see both sides and Chapel Ronin it's just like fish out of water doesn't know her whole her entire fan base is a is a pretty young fan base it's a pretty aggressive fan base yeah I think people are entitled to like and also Chapel she's an artist you know it's just like I really believe that Chapel isn't like you know a lot of us in influencers that the people we talked about I don't think they give a [ __ ] like these these people willing to talk about anyone and anybody just for a couple likes and a couple clicks they want to be famous they want the attention they don't give a [ __ ] how yeah and then you have people like Chapel who are like our artists who have been making music for years regardless of their Fame enjoying doing it and sure do they want to have a hit do they want to get out there do they want to make a little bit money sure but I think Chapel's point is like if if she probably had it her way she wouldn't have been become as famous as she has has been she appreciates people liking her music more but she didn't ask for the online harassment she didn't ask for her family to be harassed and completely elose any privacy that they have while fans are simultaneously demanding not asking demanding for her attention in the way that they want her attention you know and it's it's really kind of [ __ ] weird it's also interesting in her case cuz her performance is like a character mhm and then there's her like outside of Performing so like whenever she's alone like that's where you have like the weird clips of her with like a Kermit like jacket over her head or like trying to not be noticed people are mad at her for that cuz her character is the very eccentric like out there person yeah but she's that's the thing she's playing a character and that's who she is on stage I remember I was like 11 and I went to a Britney Spears concert in Salt Lake City random um but I ended up running into Britney Spears in uh the airport and like I was young of course I big fan so I like was crying saying hi to her and I remember I asked for a photo and she was like no no no I can't do that but like you know it's like just like thank you and super sweet and I was like great but I'm like it makes sense because if she takes a photo with one person she's going to have to take a photo with everyone and maybe she's just trying to get some snacks before her flight like you know what I mean cuz it's also like yeah when you see someone being like posing for a photo and someone taking it or taking a selfie that brings more attention to it and then people are like oh who is that oh my God that's Britney Spears and now we have pandemonium right what would you rather have someone asking you for a photo or someone taking a photo of you while you know they're taking a photo of you asking for a photo asking for a photo there's nothing worse than see someone videotaping you from afar you're just like or like like yeah it's like you know what you're doing just say high and you and then you it's awkward so you kind of look at them and then you look weird by like staring right at the camera it's it's very bizarre I mean like that happens a lot but you know I think most reality TV stars like are very like appreciative of fans you know and also are very afraid to say no I've said this before the only time I've ever turned down a fan was Jax Taylor uh and at the women's March in 2016 when I was currently The Bachelor and I thought like this is not the time for me to be the focal point and and and I was literally the current Bachelor and it's like when you take one photo then everyone thinks oh I guess I can ask and then it becomes like people get in line this I was in a mob of people and it just felt inappropriate for me to do that but certainly people had an opinion of me saying no but like I I just made the tough choice of saying like this I don't I'm at a woman's March I didn't show up to be like oh my God the Bater here like I I just Tred to be there in solidarity and uh yeah but people are gonna have an opinion about it but most of the time I I do try even when it's n and I and friends with our out to dinner and we're in the middle of dinner and people walk up to you and be like I'm sorry for interrupting it's like no you're not no you're not you could have waited I'm clearly eating and it's just like most of the time you're just like sure because like you realize that they're nervous and they just you know again they they don't realize maybe how they're coming across and I think for the most part it's easy to empathize with them I think when you're Chapel I I have no idea what it's like to be her yeah and and the level of intensity and fandom it is a whole another atmosphere and I think you know the closest I've ever come is right after the show when I went to like laal LA paloa and you you can feel very unsafe very quickly and it's very scary when people like have this kind of glazed look in their eye like you're not a real person that they look at you like they're meeting some sort of God and it's [ __ ] scary and it's and it can be and how old's Chapel 27 mid 20s but anyways it's just like she it's I like it doesn't even matter if you're 20 or 50 or 70 it's just like 26 personal space and just like I don't know again if somebody's like mid bite at food I don't think that they're hoping that you walk up to them asking for a photo and it's not to say that like I don't understand being a fan absolutely do but I'm just like wait till they walk outside maybe like you know just like there's there's different ways and moments to be like hey you're human having a human experience maybe I'll let you do that and then like it appropriate time I could ask you back to like Blake Liv and people like oh like oh my God she's so out of touch it's just like no one's treated Blake Lively like a normal person in I don't know probably 20 years you know what I'm saying and maybe Blake Lively could use some PR training or I don't know maybe she's an INT secret introvert I don't know maybe she's just not good at that you know what I'm saying but it's like we simultaneously want our celebrities to act like a certain way but we treat them them very differently mhm and it's just like which one do you want yeah all right up next Caroline stanbury of Real Housewives of Dubai if you're not watching it I recommend you do all right it's time to talk about Quin our favorite place to get the most unique clothing items on the Internet or wherever you want to get your stuff we are placing some of our worn out pieces with affordable high quality essentials from Quinns Quinn says all the seasonal must haves like Casmir sweaters from $50 100% European linen shirts and versatile active wear I will say it is so rare to find a cashmere sweater for $50 like that is such a steal and it's all because of Quin the best part all of quin's items are priced 50 to 80% less than similar Brands 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that I don't know if it needs to be 247 no I'm with you yeah I imag married yeah we got married uh in April oh wow and well there you go congratulations thank you and we also have we just had our our first daughter uh 3 months before our wedding oh wow really congratulations that's amazing don't tell don't tell Sergio about that no I don't he wants a baby desperately where are you guys in that kind of uh decisionmaking process are are have you guys is it is it a someday thing or is it still a maybe thing it's really hard we talk about it all day long every day because my children are beginning to go and I I'm ushering them all out the house and can't wait and then he's and the thought of doing nappies and feeding and all of this but then he's going to do it so I don't know I don't know is the answer still don't know very difficult why is surrogacy illegal in Dubai it's not anymore um because you have to be married obviously um to have a baby with somebody um but now in the last six months or no a year I think it's become legal and they've actually got a surrogacy agency opening up because that's all my hurdles are being taken away from me basically yeah you have no more excuses yeah all the excuses I've found which just like they don't have sarasy I've got to go too far I got a phone call like three weeks ago just or two weeks ago just saying oh we've got an agency in Abu dhab would you like to come and see us I'm like is cusy one of the options now because I know Sergio wanted to have the pictures of the baby bump and like that was one of his goals with it like or is this an option I know he has to just borrow another woman I I I I don't think I mean I'm 48 I think I don't want to be the oldest uh pregnant woman on the planet um no we love an age Gap uh you you don't know much about us but there's a bit of an age Gap with me and my my wife Natalie how what is the age gap between you and S Sergio 19 years you beat us by six months no way yes uh I can't see you behind my pictures so I can't see your face oh well we look great need to we look hot okay no I still can't see it you don't you don't look it you can't see well I mean no well neither can you I mean 48 you look absolutely incredible are you reversing time what are you doing I had a full face lip well you look great yes I'm reversing time you are you are what is your I love I have a love for handbags as I have seen you do as well uh what Nick thinks I need to stop uh with the handbags does Sergio feel the same way what is your response to that or is it like shut the [ __ ] up I don't care what you think well definitely would be shut the [ __ ] up I mean like it would be like if it's between if there's a fire I'm s saving the handbags before Sergio that's for sure he's athletic enough he can he'll can take care of himself he I mean handbags are happening like handbags every woman wants a handbag more than they want a husband let's just be clear yep thank you no it's not the it's not the ye handbag it's all the handbag how many handbags do we we need Caroline I'll let you answer that yeah there's never enough I I don't I don't even understand the question what what what does Sergio think about this Sergio are you team handbag or no I mean he's in for the handbag okay yeah yeah no but well he's no no he'd rather invest in cars but I don't understand cars do you want a car like I'd rather be in a I I I don't I really couldn't care less what picks me up but I do I'm carrying yes well I I I would agree that a handbag is a much better investment than a car absolutely Nick's Nick loves suits yeah I'm a suit I I love a good suit yeah Caroline how did you end up in Dubai in the first place um I was very like watching Housewives of Dubai like it seems very almost Americanized a little bit like you kind of forget that you guys are in Dubai a little bit but like it it seems like a lot of people who aren't from Dubai moved to Dubai how did you end up there yes it's ridiculous actually because everyone goes oh my God you've moved to the Middle East oh my God are you gonna be able to do this can you have to dress less way and I'm like you don't understand like the locals are way out we um the expats way outweigh the locals only 10% of um Dubai's residents are local so the rest of us are all it's all just you know English Americans Russians you know everybody's just descended on Dubai so um it's not so foreign you wouldn't come here and go it's not like you know dropping into sort of Japan or China where you feel incredibly foreign this is not like that you would feel like you could be in America to be honest um how did I came here because of my ex-husband oh okay during the what was it the one of the recent episodes everyone got in a fight over over the whole like leaked voice message and there was the whole drama at your uh your house swimming party and you were very like hey everyone shut up I don't want the police to show up and it seems like Dubai has some unique rules at the same time you you're living a very kind of normal life you know what for from from an American or a Brit standpoint but what are some of the more unique rules in Dubai that us maybe Americans or other Brits would find to be weird or different or they would have to get used to let me tell you this I mean I love our rules we live in a place where I don't even have to lock my front door I can leave my diamonds by my bed and they will be there you can go to the beach and take off your watch your Rolex and put it on a sunbed and go swim for an hour and come back and that Rolex will be on that sunbed um and that is a pretty nice way to live um I'm just planning to go to London now and I'm thinking don't take any jewelry can't wear my handbags not going to take this I have to think like that I don't think like that in Dubai you literally can dress like a Christmas tree and feel fine you can wear your watches your jewelry your bags and then some so you know while you all criticize the way we live and the rules that we have trust me they're pretty fabulous when you're living in them because we live my kids can go to the mall by themselves at midnight 1:00 in the morning I would wouldn't think twice about itow not twice I never even worried where they are is that because they're there are such strict consequences for crime in general yes okay there are very strict consequences to Crime but real crime that's why we really don't have any yeah and I don't think that's a bad thing no I actually I'm I'm should we move to Dubai I'm like now that I'm a dad I'm very like lot of places I don't want to be if you lost your daughter in a shopping mall as toddler you'd have a heart attack in helicopters around the mall in about 10 minutes in America with us you you'd be like oh well she'll be back back in a minute well someone we'll find her and bring her back and that's honestly how we live and that is pretty incredible and I wouldn't swap that for the world could you would you be our Michael if we move to Dubai oh pay your bills no just we just like want to stay there for a couple weeks while we look for our own place and then probably like you know wear out our welcome and then just stay there the rest of your life yes that's what happen um well H yes no no because you have more kids than everything else too many of you care it's baby it's a baby though yeah I've just got a new white sofa ,000 so far how uh how is the new house coming along is it are we done with it yet of course not I'm starting again this morning so I I'm ripping out the whole front of the house and it's all going to be um glass so that you could sort of like might well basically my husband's making a ridiculous man cave and then um we're just redoing the office so it's a work in progress my little my little house is like you know it's like a little Art Gallery absolutely love filling filling it what uh what makes your relationship work I mean have you guys love to talk and and give each other [ __ ] and and you give them a hard time and vice versa but at the same time there does seem to be like a lot of love there between the two of you what makes you guys uh work as well as you do well basically I brought them up let's face it he's shaking his head behind um you know um I don't know we just have a lot of love and respect for each other even though I'm tough on him obviously you know there's a huge age Gap and sometimes or a lot of times I feel like I know better but then you know obviously he proves me wrong sometimes too and like he's he's really strong in the relationship you're just seeing parts of it sort of in we weren't in our own home we were sort of under stress of moving but like he gives as good as he gets I can assure you and and we have a lot of fun together like no matter how hard we fight it always ends up laughing I can't keep a straight face you guys I find to be the most entertaining coule I mean I love the dynamic you know it just really works Sergio is so animated and passionate and you're again I I I relate to you very much Caroline in terms of like your energy or you know like you're just like [ __ ] this I don't know what we're doing because if I cried that'd be just you know he's always crying so it's like one of us has to remain uh you know sensible you you also seem that way with the other Housewives you you seem you know housewife is always known for the drama and like really making a stink about anything and you you always seem annoyed by drama in the best possible way is that is that how you usually feel I don't love drama I it's not that deep for me I mean you know I there's just so many stupid they act to everything you can't say anything so at this point you just sort of have to I I find that I'm always just apologizing just for being the life I'm like I did it I'll do it I'll take it how are you in Chanel are you have you guys mended fences yes yes Janelle and I are fine she just um she now she sort of it took her a little bit longer to get my humor and I think the botox doesn't help because she can't see my face but um you know I think now she understands I've just got really dry dead pan face when I say things what do you think about Chanel's implication that you victimize yourself to make the other woman like look better or look worse please first of all would you have wanted to get in that waterfall with all of them screaming like that I mean what on Earth was that and also on top of it like Lisa didn't want to do the praying bit and that was all fine I don't want to get into a into a what looks like some well into the waterfall and hold hands and scream about my do you think that's who I am as a person I'm not victimizing myself in fact I'm standing up for myself I'm not going to do that if I was ever going to put myself through that sort of cleanse it wouldn't be with five lunatics I would be with my husband it wouldn't shock me if like every other week Sarah has a new kind of new aged cleanse idea for the group that she wants everyone to buy into that is you know either a potion or Screaming or something is that accurate or is this a one-off situation with Sarah no 100% And we all have to join um Sarah's cult but you know that's okay um you know she she's underneath it's it's all comes from a good place it's just that we're all made differently I I don't believe the same things and I don't believe in healing in the same way but Sarah thinks I need the most healing of the group so there you go has Yasmin left for college yet I'm actually taking her next week oh where is she going UCLA no London she's going to London she got into I'm not going to say where she got into actually um but she got into she got five conditional offers and so she was very very happy and she got into her top uh one that she wanted to get to so congratulations that must make you very proud well she's smart and Sassy that's for sure yeah she definitely got maybe a little bit of that from you yeah you think I felt like it was a very raw and vulnerable moment of y'all's conversation um over dinner where she kind of broke down about the relationship with Sergio where do they stand now you know they have their moments they're they're on and off they're they're in a good place um he took her to prom and all of that and you know she she does have a really nice relationship with him I just want to say that you know anyone that's in the stepparent role it's a really difficult role you never ever the the father and that's just it and then to have the age gap on top you know you kind of the the respect level probably isn't there you know and and that's just never going to change I suppose I mean you know maybe as time goes on it's easier but we we were out with friends last night and uh this woman been a stepparent to their their daughter for 35 years and she said it's just as hard so you know yeah there Rebellion that goes on there does does she was when when it was filming too and now she's 18 do any of her friends give her [ __ ] for like having a hot stepdad yes um you know uh we but but even and and a mom by the way I get called well obviously we know that Caroline yeah so yes they do we do so we she hates us going to the school she absolutely hates us going there where did tiki Tiki come from oh my God I don't know Sergio what does tiki Tiki come from it's just he names everything you I mean every part of his body has a name too and mine say that what is uh what does he name it what did you say no I call it a Tinky Winky you can't call yours a Tinky [Laughter] wink that's what you call baby he's like Carl oh okay it's bigger than that a Tinky Winky it's giving BD for sure that's the headline tomorrow page six Sergio Tinky Winky with [ __ ] shifting to the Brooks of it all are you and Brooks finally made up no oh no okay were were you surprised by the switch up in your friendship because you guys were really close at 1 Point time and now this season not so much did you see this coming at all no I didn't see it coming at all I was absolutely blindsided um so no and actually you know I that's why I tried to sort of push through it and let it all go because I'm watching it back it's hilarious the Venom when she calls me the see you next Tuesday when I come into the party and I'm like hello everyone completely oblivious he's like [ __ ] [ __ ] and it's like it's so so funny to watch um but uh you know I I it's sad because in barley I had so much fun with her like you know I love the naughty side of Brooks but you know unfortunately it just doesn't last all the time what do you think that is do you think it's just like she you seem very confident in who you are uh you seem almost like any criticism you're just like whatever I know who I am I'm not going to let that get that me down where Brooks on the other hand it's just like she wants to be her truest self and true self is to be your friend and kind of be that snarky who gives a [ __ ] personality but it's like she maybe is like reading her comments too much or like you know getting feedback from Sarah and the other women about a certain behavior in and it's it seems to be affecting her in a way that doesn't affect you I mean but that was so interesting to watch like I loved watching it the Sarah and Brooks thing was freaking hilarious like what she means is yeah like no it's not what means okay like what what do I mean to say like I could not believe what I was watching myself and no one else seemed to see it or get it like while I'm at the table well thank God for the flashback the oh it was brilliant absolutely brilliant to watch as a viewer I loved it um you know and I don't know I think Brooks can't decide whether she's a churchgoing sort of like vica's wife or she's this party loving like I don't know like you know woman that sort of like has men all over the place and having fun and like I don't know who she she is I don't think she knows she hasn't decided it's it's still out to the jury right now is there something else that happens between y Brooks later in the season or is this like a reunion drama that might have started no reunion I feel like I got away quite unscathed I was so excited to go to reunion to be honest this year um because I feel so as you said very relaxed about who I am so like not a lot really I feel like teeson they can throw you know all of it and I like unbreakable scooch through unbreakable exactly um and you know compared to what other people went through at Reunion I I'm okay so and Brooks Brooks will Brooks will be back it's just you know it's just the way she is why do you think the vagina comment pissed her off so bad oh it didn't it was a convenient excuse for God's sake I mean really it's like it was the most ridiculous comment I mean I did see vagina yeah that's what I'm saying like it happened like you didn't lose your [ __ ] doing a downward dog in the middle of the Beyonce concert I mean I defy any of you not to have laughed it was really funny well the thing is I feel like toen didn't even care and it was just Brooks who was so angry she didn't care Brooks got so angry it wasn't even her V JJ insane circling back to the reunion I know you said other stuff happened Saba recently posted like a story of her breaking up with s ER is there anything that you can shed light into that CU it was kind of random I mean sabba hasn't spoken all season and suddenly it's like it's like oh there there's another housemate um she I don't know what's happened with sabber and Twitter but I think she needs to stay off it don't you yeah we go and I've never heard of a friend breakup it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of like I you know a legal State what is it a legal statement we're breaking up today I that's crazy it's crazy I'm obsessed with your No Nonsense Caroline I find it to be a breath of fresh air you're thank you I feel like in the housewife world there's like some housewives that I feel like are the the The Real Housewives like what the franchise was was meant to be which is like someone like you and then other Housewives who like try to create their own storyline and and perform and things like that so I just want to say it's been just a pleasure watching you I'm such a fan and uh you're a breath of fresh air and it's uh every time you and Sergio are on on my screen I I find to be really enjoyable thank you well we we love doing it do you watch any other franchises I watch all of them I mean I've just been in barley with Meredith Marx I I had FaceTime for two hours this morning with Le Lassa Pippen and you know I have a lot of friends on on the franchises so I really really enjoy them just as much I I only watch our one once so I watch it like a viewer I kind of take my helicopter it and don't get too involved with it when I watch it I don't analyze it I watch it like you guys do and go that's you know it's really funny I will say I did see a comment that you had Caroline on a picture of Teresa's fake Chanel oh yeah I'm wondering what is your thoughts on housewives wearing fake luxury and then also what are your thoughts on like the franchise falling apart for New Jersey well I mean that's quite bold to wear something like that a fake Chanel that anyone could see but I guess you know look it's it's up to you I guess um that I do own that track suit and it was ridiculously priced so maybe I should have bought the v um sorry what was the about oh here here we are you have it stop there you go three pieces it's a little different shape but yes and it's really thick I do have it how could you tell that Teresa's was fake the letters are all wrong and the it spells panel Chanel I don't know every I didn't it wasn't me that called her out on it I wouldn't have called her out on it to be fair I I'd left it there but I mean unfortunately it just is what did you ask what was the question the second one was because New Jersey this final season everybody was like it was it was bad they're canceling it and like meanwhile duai is doing perfectly fine I feel like everyone expects that of New Jersey don't you I mean I feel like they encourage it like I feel like you know they've all been fighting for years it's kind of the basis of their relationship I don't know I feel like that is what people watch New Jersey for so maybe I'm I'm surprised everyone's so shocked that's all how did you initially get on real housewi of Dubai um they came when they came to Dubai I suppose you know all everyone knew from Ladies of London I was here so you know I was one of the first people they call wow well Bravo said come get her someone say they made the show about you oh some I would say they didn't so but some might Andy Cohen did say I would yeah I think that's the voice that matters too if Andy Cohen said it Caroline it's been so fun talking with you we really appreciate you taking the time uh at the odd hours of the night over in Dubai uh can you you want to plug anything oh um well check out busthe label.com on New Wellness brand so it's ww.us the.com and my podcast uncut and unsensored if you want to know anything about me it's there amazing all right will check out Caroline's podcast Caroline we really appreciate you taking the time Sergio we love you uh you're one of our favorites uh we can't wait to watch the rest of the season and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk soon if you're Evan La Caroline we'd love to have you in studio let us know uh and uh all right well take care we appreciate your time bye by bye thank you everyone nice to meet you all nice to meet you I love her yeah I love her too I love Sergio I am am so Sergio aren't I you are Sergio the more I think about it right like my dream I I do I F like whenever they yasma was like she follows him around like a you follow Mom around like a lost puppy and he was like what do you mean I love her it's like that is me with Nick I'm like what's the problem you don't want to go to bed holding hands and kissing that seems I do in theory I love the idea of it I would love to like every day I'm like you know um I saw somewhere that 20 second hug is like the exact amount of time you should hug for to like release the emotions I mean you a warm embrace you have to hold the embrace it gives you an opportunity to exchange energy serious I do I for counting one no he literally does and a six-second kiss and so I make sure that I get both of those but I just want to make sure I get the full 20 seconds it's not I'm not counting down sure for sure like two one uh anyway well we we thank Caroline and Sergio serg really didn't make an appearance but I also love that he was in the background he's always there probably he was probably holding her light he probably was now let's get into bachette Love is Blind UK with our dear friend Lauren Gray rocket money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions 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filmed it I was playing volleyball and I went up for a block and I came down and I landed on someone's heel or top of their foot yep and it snapped my toe off and it Wass are not good for your face that way there blood everywhere is that what happened to you no but this foot has been through a lot I like shattered my growth plate in this foot in like five different places had have surgery on it oh my God and then you know now the chunk that's missing is I'm sure step it on like a bed frame this morning the door M like just split it and then I looked at my toe and the on the side there's just like a huge piece that's just hanging and it's thick so did we like bandage it or do we just sock on no because I didn't have Band-Aids in my house for the first time ever when I actually need one but I'm just going to like you know like liquid bandage I'm just going to glue that [ __ ] back on and call it a day because I don't have I I can't deal with stitches my dad was like you probably need stitches I was like nah you heard it here first Lauren Gray does not let a serious toe injury knock I don't let it get me down you don't let it get it down are you are you pretty good with uh with pain tolerance yes some could say she walked it off oh that was good I like it yeah pretty pretty good with that stuff High pain tolerance yes very high except I did go and get waxed for the first time recently I'm doing it again today and the woman was like the way she prefaced it was she was like some people say this is worse than childbirth and then she just ripped it and I was like you know what I respect that level of like transparency um but yeah it was really really terrible shaking babe what was worse honestly probably the waxing for sure I mean I they don't offer an epidural during the say they don't yeah they don't offer an epidural I was on the verge of like what do I do before Labor do I need to like fully like shave this like and then I was like people were like go get wax and I'm like I don't think I need to do that like I don't need to go through that pain and then give birth to a baby I'll just let the it is pretty raw only because it's summer am I like okay I need to commit to something here but only the first time is the worst you should just look at Laser yeah I can't they told me it wouldn't work on me because my hair is like too light and I guess that doesn't it doesn't take with the laser so this is my only option wait certain hairs don't take to lasers I didn't know that either but I guess that's the truth I don't yeah not it's a pigment of your hair situation that's what they said they said it was like too fine and uh too light and it wasn't that's right and it just wasn't going to work um I'm painting a really beautiful picture right now that nobody really needs to know me on the complete other hand they're like oh hell yeah this and I got I got lasered of like four separate I did like the full pack of like eight call people in you got to look at this yeah like four separate times and it it just it doesn't I my hormones I guess I don't know it just doesn't work yeah I'm I got like tattoo numbing cream on Amazon so I'm going to see if that helps me at all when I go in tonight but I am thinking about it and like anticipating it and it is in the back of my well hopefully this will be the most painless part of your day I would absolutely yeah that would imagine she's like this podcast was worse getting wax no I I promise you there's nothing you could say to me that would be worse than what I felt in that room and you're so vulnerable you know you're just you're like I don't know what you're getting waxed but I was getting my bikini line waxed and you're in a very vulnerable state especially when they tell you to turn over and then like spread them or yeah or they're like here can you just pull your legs up to your ears and you're like I don't know if that was mine she was just like all right curl up in a ball she just got right in there I was like this is I've never experienced this and she was cool I wasn't nervous I have also have no shame so I was just like yep get in there yeah okay well I feel like I got that later on but the first time I was like can you tell me your name again please see I don't I don't want to know the less I know the better are they they're talking to you yeah yeah it's silent yeah I remember I'd be they'd like talk to me about like their personal lives you know you're getting I think I was talking to her about you at some point you know like yeah I'm seeing this guy you'll talk about anything on that table just to like what's happening yeah that and like spray tans is where I share the most personal information I think because it's so already so vulnerable that you're like might as well like here's more about me you want to know what's on the inside right CU you're seeing everything on the exactly I don't know I think I think it's kind of like a very beautiful thing poetic would say would you ever get wax Nick sure really would I well for what purpose just like experience some things that like I have experienced what would you get wa what should I get waxed well I think that's a personal decision I think what are you feeling where do you feel like you could have less hair and be like oh this is nice I don't really care fair enough let it grow and let it FL in the mirror it's usually like well this will do yeah there you go that's awful it's okay my like leg hair was so long and I was out here getting massages and stuff and I was like I didn't even stop to think oh they could be thinking about how long my leg cuz my leg hair is blonde but the thing is is my sister is a massage therapist and she will always be like the women always come in and say like sorry I didn't shave my legs and she's like you know we massage men like you know we have like full but I also don't want anyone looking at me and being like Oh yes the legs of a man you know I feel like that would hurt my feelings a little yeah for real but I do I do like shaving it when it gets long satisfying yeah Nick told me this yesterday he had to go pick up our dog from his like summer camp and he said by time he gets back he he hoped that my legs were shaved he yeah he um he he gave me a task while he was gone get in that bathroom and shave your legs well our legs were next to each other and I couldn't tell the difference between mine or her they were bad listen and also I just want to say whatever you want to do it's your body your choice you know I but shave your legs but by the time I get back I have those legs [ __ ] shaved I don't remember that I just want to say I don't remember that convenient she was like when you get back maybe we'll have a little Hanky Panky and I didn't no no I'm just gonna go on a limb that Natalie did not use the term Hanky Panky thank very much I don't think I've ever actually heard someone use that term and just like in conversation no it's wild no what was the term you used do you remember we were recording something and I was like you can't say that word fire what was it like fire Tunes or something you were talking about someone mad beats someone who making a song and I was like why would you say that I'm not cool I'm not cool I you can make it a thing I'm sure Mad T Fresh Beats hell yeah fire fire in my dead era I just feel like you know I can say things like you okay you can get away with it sure yeah it's all about the confidence in which you say it with there you go there you go say I've said some questionable things I was walking out of a restaurant and for some reason the thing that came to my mind to say as I was walking out the door was have a blessed one and my friends were like oh what have a blessed one and I was like H and I still use it because it's stuck and I was like you know what yeah hell yeah one of my favorite things to say I've said it for years and I remember I used to like put other people on to it too but people would be like hope you have a great day and thanks hope you have a better one oh I like that and some people would be like whoa like one up me you know there's no need to do that I like it some people are like oh my God thanks cuz most people are like yeah you too you know and it's just imp passing but you're so selfless that you I'm so humble I'm so selfless I'm just like I think about so many other people and I just wanted people to know that I do hope that your day is better than mine yeah that's I think that's really yes absolutely selfless thank you so much well congratulations on your new movie thank you thank you yes now that we've gotten you know all New Movie of my like and my body hair yes now that we talked about that thank you thank you so much did you ever imagine going on theile Falls and talking about body hair no it's not what I set out to do this morning but it did feel right like right it just it just flws the tongue to be clear your new movie incoming is not about body hair no no talk to us about it um it is a sort of like coming of age comedy movie a lot of like similarities to movies like American Pie and super bad it's about a party we love it is both yes they're great and it's about Four Freshman boys and a crazy party and sort of everyone coming into their own and I play Katrina who is like the popular it girl and you know things sort of get a little crazy for her um but it's my first acting role and it's a really great experience what was the most terrifying thing about the experience it's the first time I've done anything like this so I had to sort of build my confidence and and have confidence in the fact that you know they chose me for a reason and um I could handle playing that that part because it is like a very big like point of the movie it's very funny and I was a little concerned about like being able to execute it but I think it turned out well yay was acting always on your mind were you like I always want to at some point get to this or did it kind of come out of the blue before I started social media and and music and everything that I do now I used to take acting classes in New York and my mom would take me up there when I was like 11 12 like every Tuesday from Pennsylvania I'm from Pennsylvania yeah so my mom would drive me up to New York because I just loved doing it and I was homeschooled at that time so there was not much else to do I finished school really early and then it was kind of like my extracurricular activity and then once I started social media sort of got away from that for a little while and ventured into other things and yeah this was my first like full circle back to it yeah yay I love that I think a lot of people who come up on social media and have like massive followings there's always like a maybe a stigma or or you know like not real celebrity did you have to kind of overcome any of those kind of self-limiting beliefs when you got this opportunity of like this is something I really can do or did you always have the confidence that you could do it I don't think I've always had the confidence in anything that I've done and it's not necessarily from the fact of like coming from social media I think that's more of a box that other people put me in and I know that that means that I just have to prove myself that much more when it comes to projects like this but in my own personal like uh confidence I guess once I prove it to myself and I know that I can do it it m it's that much easier it's the same thing when I started making music and performing live I never performed live until I started you know making music and getting into social media and that was a hurdle I had to overcome but I feel like once I prove it to myself it's it's that much easier what uh actors or actresses do you admire or or want to kind of mimic your career around oh my gosh I love Rachel McAdams she's like my she's my dream I just love everything about her I love every role she plays I love how versatile she is so yeah she's my number one for sure that's a good answer right she's great answer great you more method what's your process I didn't really have a proc I don't think I've experienced enough in the acting space I can say that confidently I have no idea I watched a lot of movies because I am I'm drunk for a majority of the scenes that we shot so I had to learn how to act drunk and that's really hard yeah so I watched a lot of like Bridesmaids and movies like that where there's people are good at acting drunk um but outside of that I was just sort of learning as I went and I do think I got better and better because when you're on set participating in someone else's project your guard has to be completely down because like even though you might feel like you look dumb or embarrassing or whatever because is just like standing in a room with a bunch of cameras surrounding you and like yelling or being silly or acting drunk or you know whatever can be really intimidating especially when you're used to being in control of the content that's being created so I feel like I once I was comfortable with that I mean the first scene we shot I was like screaming and throwing things and so that was really helpful and sort of overcoming that just got the hard Parts out of the way and then it was sort of silly after that I feel like I was just kind of learning as I go and I'm sure I'll get better and better what's the trick to playing drunk I mean for me it was a lot of like slurring and if you think you look dumb or sound dumb be a little bit Dumber because I've seen videos of myself drunk and it's very hard to replicate so I think like the slurring and things like that and just being like as lazy as possible with everything but the script was great which helped like the script sort of tracked with what you would be saying if you were drag I feel like being loud is like the most authentic to drunk just belligerant yeah just like and that's why you don't care and that's exactly it yeah and I was also like with two I think the boys were like 15 16 and I was 20 when we were shooting but it was fun because they're kids and they're also like having fun with the role so my guard was a little bit more down because of that and they were just like they were also really funny uh so it was fun yeah very cool you know who's really Reality and Love Is Blind UK good at acting drunk on television as reality TV stars of course I don't think there's much acting going on you are also a big reality TV fan yourself I am I am yeah what are some of your favorites 90-day fiance has forever been my favorite I've seen 90-day fiance happily ever after I've seen all of like the random spin-offs the other way that's happening right now I think happily ever after is also happening right now but I'm caught up on all of that all of the love is blinds I just watched love is DK I we just just started watching that last where are you at episode two only oh okay okay okay it's really good I can confidently say I love Freddy and Catherine together I don't know if they end up together but the funeral director and he has a Down syndrome brother and she teaches Down syndrome kids to swim or something and they I don't know if they end up together but I feel like they need I don't know either cuz I like I'm on the episode before they go to the altar so I'm like I'm oh my towards end towards the end have you watching I've only seen the first episode I will say this this cast of the UK it's it's produced by the a different production company than the love is blinding USA uh sounds weird saying love is blinding USA I know cuz like love love Island I know um different production company it's a different looking cast they're all hot yeah yeah it's like what's the other Netflix show too hot to handle to handle but love is blond yeah which I think is kind of interesting because even hot people have a type yeah that is true just because you're hot doesn't mean you're my of hot I will say I had the same thought when I was seeing everyone I was like there's really I mean on a very surface shallow like vapid level there's no bad pcks no I mean the the who what's his name Freddy he looks like Aaron Taylor like the new James Bond you put a beard on him he looks exactly like Aaron Taylor one of the best looking men in Hollywood today do y'all remember when I was it Irena when she like met the guy and she was immediately like uh yes I vaguely remember and with Liss now is pregnant z z Oh yes thank okay yes yes okay she was like oh like I feel like that's not going to happen this I so far I haven't really seen one of those moments where like I think it was the last season was it where the girl said she looked like Megan Fox and the guy like went with her very clearly purely because she said that and then he was like um no I've met Chelsea in person really does she look like Megan Fox you can see the Megan Fox could see it I could see it in like the the facial structure the eyes the hair color I got what she was saying yeah no as soon as I met her in person you could tell that many many men have told her she looks like many Megan Fox when they were definitely trying to get laid and also like good for her cuz I would be nervous to compare myself to anyone cuz if there was any expectation and I showed up any less than that expectation I would be crushed no she should never have answered the question well he I think he answered it first and then that was cut out and then it was like he oh I see he asked a question or something and it was just but she handled it in the best possible way for sure and she's a beautiful girl and I hate that she got put in that situation cuz like it's Megan Fox but it also ended with Megan Fox giving an interview being like listen like hell yeah if people said she looks like me then then she looks like me like I pop off Queen like to have Megan Fox validate when I met her she left the party that I met with the oppenheim men what from from Sunset oh oh oh I watch that one too yeah I would like to see her on uh selling Sunset oh she is a realtor isn't she's a real I don't know oh she should be no I think she is I think that's neither here nor there she can get her license very true I think Chelsea would come in and really shine I think so too she'd be around like all these women in like American Eagle jeans and javana flipflops and she would crush and would made her so good is that she was really good at being vulnerable like she would show her insecurities and the most authentic way and and she also wouldn't allow like they would try to be like [ __ ] to her and she'd be like that doesn't like youing I look like Megan fo like she I feel like she would handle like they would get so mad because they wouldn't be able to get under her skin so love is B UK worth the finish I hope so I'm going to finish it and I will report that we should keep going but right now you should keep going yeah for sure it does get it always gets juicy when they bring in like the people that didn't get picked from the pods and they're all like see the person that they were going to pick yeah and that that is where I was like okay they're cooking like I'm I'm with it but yeah I think I I'm always going to prefer you us cuz I just feel like there's there was more drama and like that's that's what I live for that's what I want to see but it is like a good watch it's not a bad watch at all did you watch any love Island USA that everyone talking about so I was going to but then by the time that I came I was late and i' had already seen everything on Tik Tok and I was like man I can't even like get into this now because I already know what happens even though I don't really know the characters or the people like that like I feel like I already saw the ending and now I'm just going to be like man yeah that's valid but I do love that one girl is her name yes yeah I don't know how she is on the show or anything but on Tik Tok she's funny and she's cool I will say if you if you have time it's worth watching even like knowing what you know cuz it's absurdly entertaining this okay then I need to go back I need to go back and get into it because I was like man I feel like I watched this whole thing on Tik Tok if you have a spare like 900 hours because there's so many episodes I'm sure I could find time somewhere I find time for like every 90day fiance episode that's ever came out so and those are like two hours long yes you know what it is about that show is it's just so perfect like I want to know what like the casting process for that show is because I'm like I know that they submit themselves to be a part of the show but I'm like how where do you find some of these people it's crazy my sister when they just they flew out here to visit and they flew from Atlanta to LA and my sister sat beside Big Ed oh my God oh my God and they were like my sister was like this I know this man I've seen I know this man well I know this neck I know seen this NE before I've seen that somewhere before I know him I feel like I know him a little too well she said I Googled no neck reality TV star and then of course it like popped up she was like yep that's it oh my gosh that he's like a whole thing to tackle in and of himself I have so many thoughts on that man I have so many questions yeah so it's really the high stakes reality TV shows that you love the most is that is it considered like high stakes 90day 90day fiance love is BL and getting married to someone after a few weeks or or engaged after 90 yes I guess so yeah I love I love is The Bachelorette Thoughts Bachelorette almost kind of too mellow for you no I've actually never really you only have to get engaged after nine weeks you know is that how it worked I genuinely I caught up on this episode because I was like okay I need to be a little bit prepared but I was like I can't go on there and pretend I know what I'm talking about because this like The Bachelor Bachelorette it's been going on for a really long time 20 some years y yeah like the show I think it started airing the year I was born and I was like I got a lot to catch up on um there's a lot to catch up on there but okay I have a question because I do love reality TV if you had to suggest cuz there obviously is so much content if you all had to suggest like a season for someone who knows nothing to start at what would you say for bachelor Bachelorette for both like the best season like where would you like obviously you could start no you could start anywhere they're all the same okay what would you say is the best season if I had to pick one Hannah Browns okay that's a good season Ka Ln was pretty good the one I was on like if if you're just talking objective like drama drama Kaitlyn and Hannah's pretty solid all right old Bachelor in Paradise too see it's another one of those shows with so many spin-offs that I'm like once I get into this I can't get out that's I'm like if you like a lot of stuff happening I was like the earlier seasons of Bachelor in Paradise not even knowing who the people are from The Bachelor it's fun it was fun okay until it wasn't okay until until it was okay okay girl did any of the men of the final four men of Jen shine or stand out to you based off their face who would you pick Jonathan I guess that's who I think she ends up with you think is he a sweetie pie I he end up he is okay I also love Marcus too I don't know what would you if you had to describe like each of them in one word I think Jeremy is really I think he's very funny I think he's the one who like is the like the wittiest and he like has quick you he's got like quick humor you know yeah good banter I think would be Jeremy Jonathan is like incredibly thoughtful and like I think because he always does like the lacrosse like he thinks about like the stuff jyn her hobbies and like stuff she's into and heers really him but they were probably like you both played lacrosse so you don't think it's coming from a genuine Place well he does seem like a really genuine guy I just like knowing how those dates operate I just know that he wasn't the who planned well I will say when it comes to hometowns that actually the contestants they actually do have a say on what you do they will so what did you do on your hometown I had my friend show up took her to a brewery in Wisconsin yeah classic yeah the first on both well the second one there wasn't one it was it was that crazy they canceled hometowns oh my god oh wow we don't need to talk about why period I'm on the edge of my seats wait you dirty [ __ ] are you for real this because Nick hooked up with The Bachelorette oh and they canceled hometowns oh not just let shame my husband but well no you're happily married now obviously Happy Endings Happy Endings all around but Happy Endings literally all literally all around besides the three other men but everyone else got a have end poor guys imagine uncomfortable anyway um that is so anyway now that I I eat my words that maybe Jonathan did say I'd love to play lacrosse with Jen exactly so I think Jonathan's incredibly thoughtful Marcus I feel like let me ask you a question so I mean I'm sorry no no I shut up no please no please no please please no I feel like I'm interrupting something you're literally in the middle of something I feel like I'm in the middle of something Marcus is it's my fault no I I don't know if I can come up with a word for Marcus I feel like Marcus is just very he's just Marcus he's just Marcus you know you know Marcus classic I know Marcus we all know Marcus he's just like a sweet he's an army veteran he's like been through it his like families like has had a tough childhood not there his his familyes wasn't really there he's I just feel like he has experienced life he's got the story he's got this story and I feel like he's just been through it all that he's like you know what like life is too precious I'm just here to be in love and sweep you off Soul absolutely I you know I's my question Lauren if a man took you running on a date what would you do I would okay I actually have a I have a story so I went on a date with this guy once I'll summarize it because there was a lot going on anyway he ended up staying at my house and he woke me up after like we had been drinking woke me up at like 5: in the morning I [ __ ] you not the sun was still down it was it was night time he woke me up and was like ready to out and I was still drunk so I was like um I put on my workout clothes and I went downstairs and he's like running me through this whole boot camp I threw up three times and came back in my own house I'm like he's putting me through this like boot camp and it's 5:30 in the morning no just like a dude that I knew and he's like like putting his whole like Soul into that workout and I was like I'd gotten maybe 3 hours of sleep and after he left I was like I don't I never want to see I don't think he's the one for me what just H and I'm I was so like I felt like I was astop planting is that what it's called when you're just like out of your body an out of Body Experience yeah I was just like looking down on the situation like this is what we're doing now my nightmare was that I would marry into a family that does the Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving I have never even heard of that you haven't no well let me just bring you into my nightmares turkey TR it's the Turkey Trot it's the morning of Thanksgiving and you all go for a run like it's like I don't know how long it is but it's like a thing it's like we're about to pick out on food let's all J all Jog and do the Turkey Trot and like that was always my fear who did this is this a family thing no this is a known thing this I it's a thing that happens my hometown does it too yeah okay thank you blessings to people that can do that like all of Alabama or something or sa no I think this is like Nationwide it's a tradition yeah it's a thing everyone in here is saying it's a thing Fair how not how do y'all never heard I haven't heard of you because my family does not do that I was going to say I didn't gr up his family like that mine didn't either that's why I was like I that would that would be so [ __ ] scary to me if like I've made it this far in my life and then I marry into someone who's like it's a family tradition every morning every Thanksgiving morning we get up and go on a run I would be like blessings to you all um bless no thank you um so to answer your question at this point in my life no but there would there probably was a point in my life or I know for a fact there was a point in my life not that long ago where I would have been like I guess is that why you've never been to one of my family thanksgivings now when we first started dating was like Thanksgiving is my family's holiday you can have Christmas but Thanksgiving it's a big deal for my family I was like okay I guess I'm like so scared that you're going to make me run turkey I've literally never been to my family's Thanksgiving since I've met Natalie oh wow just your family turky Trot no we go then that's why we've never been now if it woke me up at 5:00 a.m. asking me to go do a boot camp for workout I would go so mered with marks on him and be like you can leave see but the thing is I was still drunk so I was like I guess this is what we're doing now like I put I went and like put on my leggings and it's like dark in my house ask him why he was a big he worked in sports and he was like a big gym guy and I should have anticipated this and I'm sure I agreed to it like in a drunken State like yeah we'll work out oh God that's what happened and then the my favorite part was at the end he pulled up like a video of this like insanely hot like Fitness girl and he's like this girl kills my abs every day and I'm like I'm sitting there like doing crunches and I can barely do the workouts because this girl is like shred not an ounce of fat on her body she's perfect and he's like shed me this girl show me her Instagram I'm like dude hit her up like get out of my house what is going on but I think for the future I wouldn't I wouldn't handle things the same way like I genuinely left three times to throw up and I came back and I was like let's do it Deon got into running and now is forcing Jen to jog oh how long of a jog are we talking it probably wasn't long at all he was sweating so bad you didn't but looks like I mean and I I say this as a sweater I sweat but Devon looks like a sweater Devon looks like as as he does kind of give like clammy hands yeah like see I can't even hate cuz I'm like the you know those people I'm one of them that gets like the red face which just like the white around your mouth when you do like the slightest bit of like you get your heart rate up a little bit my entire face turns beat red and then just around my mouth it's white and I go to Equinox which is like this how does this happen just by working out I'm super super white like the like no my entire ancestry is in like one tiny corner of like Western girl there's no sauce to me whatsoever so like my skin is transparent and then when I work out it's just like my like blood vessels are popping I don't even know but yeah I'm I'm and I go to Equinox and everyone looks so hot like their hair's done yeah that's like date spot in La is like Equinox really that's like where people go to meet their husbands that's my nightmare are you are you actively dating are you in love are you going Dating it's complicated oh yeah we're figuring things out we're in a situationship we're in a situation and I'm figuring it out get out of the situation sh um I don't know sometimes you been hanging out with Mr situation [ __ ] we're on our situation um like roughly roughly like nine months what yeah rough but no wait are you enjoying like oh no so oh I got a book for you oh oh um so no we were we were together for a while and then things sort of fell apart pretty fast but we we just we moved in together too quick and things happened really fast and then it just like kind of crumbled but who if either of you would prefer it to be a relationship would prefer to be in the relationship just for it for it not to be a situationship and for it to be a relationship no we're we're very much like exclusive it's it's just a situation because it's not like a we're not like stable yet you know can I ask because I feel like I hear this a lot um I'm I've been with the same person for seven years so dating I don't know I'm like is a situationship different or like is a relationship different than exclus so I think now itay is that's what I I feel like I've seen that where it's like we're exclusive but he's not my boyfriend no no no no no like I we're I'm dancing around the line because like it's very freshly like being put back together so I wouldn't say it's a situationship where like we haven't been exclusive and like been in a relationship it's more so like we stopped communicating for a little bit and now we're communicating again and sort of trying to find a Groove that's not bad for us right which is actually would say the most maturely I've ever handled any relationship because usually I'm like I it's cut and then it's like I'm on my story like so swipe up [ __ ] so I we're we're like you know we're figuring it out but I'm trying to handle things better than I have in the past what does that mean I don't I don't like to admit I'm wrong ever and never are and now I'm more on this page of like okay well we're both wrong you know like so I'm getting closer I'm like oh we're both wrong so we both we can fix we can fix this you baby we're fig it out you don't know this but you also did something wrong I will agree to also be wrong with you yeah I'm like you know so you're not alone I we the reason I showed up late no I and listen it's one of those things where like I care about him as a person no matter how it pans out like it's going to work out how it does but yeah I've done I've I've you know yeah I'm figuring it out guys is he also in the public live no oh no I've I've done that also and it's um painful painfully competitive sometimes and I just it's not necessarily for me you know I I'd rather explain to someone what I do and then be like I don't okay okay then like then be like oh you're engaged down babe you know like that's crazy have you ever had guys say that to you oh I've had like worse I've had like like guys that want to like control everything down to like my hair and makeup and like buying me products from makeup tutorials and being like this is what you need to do um what yeah like he really loved one of my exes really loved like a bronzy he loved a bronzy smokey eye and he like he was like crazy he was like here know his name um yes um but he I he's very much so been out of the picture for a very long time he's like I really like the um glazed donut brown chocolate frosting ey and you're like how the fu do you know that he would show me he'd be like he'd be like just watch this video um so watch this video you see you see how her like and he knew all the terminology and he would like be in my closet like he would pick me out outfits and I was like Barbie doll um but he has a brand new Barbie doll now and she is Gorge and I hope that's working out well for both of them perfect I wish you the best yes absolutely Google Lauren's ex no that's crazy the fact that he you said he likes a brown smoky eye is crazy it's like like he just wanted a Bronze Goddess Victoria Seeker model Vibes and he would tell me when I was gaining weight too he'd be like you're looking a little Fu you're getting a little you're putting a little weight on girl that's beyond that's crazy but in the moment I didn't even like I didn't even think about it I was like yeah he's probably right [ __ ] you know but then after over time I was sort of like okay maybe the like I was like okay the makeup's a little weird and I was like okay the alits are a little weird and it's like I could don't really have a sense of Who I Am anymore because you do it all for me and we just need to yeah go our separate ways well thank God yeah this other guy is much better yeah yeah yeah know yeah yeah I could say that with confidence yeah I think everyone has their own [ __ ] and you got to pick which what you can deal with you know yeah maybe they maybe they're maybe you just haven't met your guy yet or maybe he's your guy I don't know who knows who knows we'll find out uh Lord it's been so much fun talking to you congratulations on the new movie thank you when it come it it comes out on August 23rd tomorrow tomorrow so be sure to check it out on Netflix anywhere you get your Netflix anywhere you get it Netflix phone your iPad your computer wherever you you use any you stream on Netflix any service you use yes I mean you have 25 bazillion followers but where can people follow you in case they haven't yet um yeah just Lauren Gray I it's it's there I it's so many different is that your real name it's my first name and my middle name you love that thank you you love that Nick said the same thing to Kevin Jonas he's like you want to let the people know where to follow you you don't need my help you're Jonas brother Kevin Jonas is different dude like I I know where he's at you know we know I know where you're at know that name I know where you're at 25 million followers no that's crazy but I'm not Kevin Jonas come on like you you know Kevin Jonas he's a Joe bro but Lauren 25 million is crazy thank you like that's nuts do you read your comments sometimes that's Brave that is brave do you not I try not to oh I think that's more Brave Brave I'm always scared that like what if something H like what if my nipple came out and I didn't read the comments I don't know I wouldn't know that actually happened to me before proof fre the vid you know just go ahead and watch it twice you never know when a sneaky nit might be out and you just don't see it cuz I'm looking at my face not my nipple and other people are looking at your nipples and that honestly thank you you're right thanks keep an eye on thanks for being a girls girl in the comments every point it out nicely uh don't come Fort the size of the shape very fun don't comment on theze appreciate you congratulations on all your success and what I have no doubt will be an illustrious acting career great word thank you I appreciate that all right bye Lauren bye oh Lauren Hometowns Recap what a delight she's so cute so fun love her uh well wrapping up the bachette I mean honestly hometowns is always kind of like boring unless it's Peter Weber season and Victoria just doesn't want to go what what is her famous line Victoria excuse you what yeah excuse you what yeah yeah this this episode is kind of don't make them like they used to I did like Marcus's Hometown though like that made me want to cry that Hometown screamed they were planning on making him the bachelor but something happened yeah which is kind of sad that could I feel like I mean love Grant can't wait for Grant but I feel like Marcus could have definitely been a moment yeah I don't know I'm happier with Grant I might be the like where I was like the only person's uh Hometown that I actually enjoyed was Jonathan's because I felt like it was very involved remember when we had Janan and we were like what does a life look like with Jonathan and she said children Little J she talked about kids little JJ if you're if she picks someone else I'm mad well you're mad I'm madad his man's like so you want kids with we're just going to the supermarket yeah what the [ __ ] that was definitely a uh winner Hometown for Jonathan I will say date him like opening up finally like getting to that point where I'm like seeing the family with her got him to that point playing across yeah it was very cute Jen's a sneaky athlete is she sneaky well I mean like she said she likes running or that she does run so that's not meant like but like College athletics in general playing lacrosse like I played I played basketball in fifth grade if you threw a basketball at me would not be able to tell I don't think anyone like looked at Jen and go that's a Collegiate lacrosse player right there I mean it's it's she's good like when she plays with Jonathan definitely seems like a hidden talent like it's a very cool very sneaky Talent she seems to have like that's a Ser like college lacrosse it's like they're they're not [ __ ] around when they brought her on and her backstory was just that she works in the medical field like there wasn't really mentions of like running or I was a Collegiate athlete like so Talent well speaking of which if you forgot that their new Bachelor is Grant Alice uh we do have an episode of going deeper that we uh dropped last Thursday if you want to get to know your new Bachelor My overall take on Grant was he's a man mhm and I say that only because they have a history in the past at times of casting more boyish people with uh limited relationship experience yeah they've never been in love or they're virgins or they've never this is the yeah Grant's coming off a seven-year relationship he's obviously got a um he' been [ __ ] yeah he's got a real job he got a real job but yeah he seems like he's you know he's been open about his relationship with his parents and and his specifically his dad he seems like someone who's lived some life overcome some adversity and and that adversity has shaped him partly into the man who he is um and he's ready to take all of that lived experience and find love which I appreciate because that's not always the case with their bachelor 100% his emotional intelligence just Reigns Superior for me yeah like watching him talk and just like how heartfelt and everything that he was I'm like no these women are going to be in good hands and I can also see them fighting to the death to get to that that last four spot Devon top three I think Deon goes home next yeah Marcus is a runner up yeah and if if if if if Marcus goes home next week then Marcus was definitely their original Bachelor Choice okay I was just like I just can't see Devon as The Bachelor and also I mean I feel like a lot of the the parents this go around were a little like very I don't know stereotypical Bachelor where it's like I just don't want you to break his heart he's been dating 20 people and I was like well you know the formula at this point like I feel like do they have to say that I mean Jeremy's mom was kind of like yeah we're you're you're not it this ain't happening hey you made it this far son good for you yeah and she's like when I heard Jen describe her perfect man I was like that's not Jeremy that's not my son okay I kind of love that Honesty yeah I mean like Jeremy did a hell of a job I really like him I was a little sad to see him go home I wasn't shocked by it but I was sad saddened by it CU again as was like for some reason Marcus and Devon did nothing for me this this episode and that might be a hot tape because I know Marcus did a lot for everybody I don't know if he did anything for me hometown's like yeah it's just how how would you fix hometowns you're the producer and and they say si your job is to fix hometowns I don't know I wish that we could see people being active with their families and friends like you know what I mean instead of it being this like awkward six person we're all going to sit on the couch and stare at you and you tell us like I wish they were like bowling or like you know doing an activity together to where it's like okay now it makes sense why you guys would be like hey would you go come have a chat with me versus we're all sitting on the couch and then it's like the sisters like hey you want to come have a chat like no I just got here but for sure like I don't know I just feel like seeing them in like an actual setting to where you'd be hanging out and meeting their friends or meeting their families versus like this very stage sit down and formulate conversations you it's it's a tough situation because you are bringing in a bunch of people who didn't sign up for a show onto a show yeah so it it's it's hard to not try to keep it controlled well I liked uh who's ra is it Rachel from Bachelor last season remember how like her family was having like a luau in the backyard R camong yeah like I like like that to me is a lot more interesting to watch than again just like five family members sitting there being like so how was it yeah where'd you go like put the sit down outside like no barbecue yeah like just casual conversation it just seems a little bit more natural than forced in my opinion what do I know would you watch like some if you got like a panel of family members to give pros and cons of their family member yeah or maybe if it was a little bit more of an expose on the person versus it's like hey you've been in the hot seat this entire time Bachelor now come be in the hot seat here like maybe like I don't know share a baby picture or something I don't know or what if it's like the at the hometown the parents or family watch episodes or the dates of Jen and whoever the person is and then they comment on it but then Jen just gets to pick one person to meet so it's not like a panel you know that's interesting I'm kind of here for it well was it like when I I kind of hated how they got all the guys together for a beer afterwards that was awward this is not the hometown like if you guys can have a beer at this point in the season they haven't gotten enough drama out of this season yeah and that's where you have Marcus saying you're not supposed to be this chummy chummy yeah I don't know yeah it's just like yeah what what's the one thing we all have in common here so what are you guys gonna do next week at Fantasy sweet oh you know kind of weird yeah I kind of do wish that that they were a little bit more like that's my girlfriend at this stage versus like well I really like him he's a good guy all right next week's fantasy sweets we'll see if it gets weird or not all right well thanks for listening tons of fun hope you enjoyed Outro this episode tell all your friends subscribe all that fun stuff be nice be nice to all your favorite reality TV stars out there uh stay out of their comments stay out of their inbox we love you we'll see you back next week bye [Music] hey guys if you love what you listen to make sure you hit that subscribe button below thanks for listening we'll see you next time