Kamala Harris & Donald Trump Debate: Eating Pets, Abortion Access, & Taking The Bait– EVEN MORE NEWS

welcome back to even more news the first and only News podcast and I'm fairly confident the only show putting out a reaction as fast as we're putting it out am I right I think we're there's no other shows yeah I think we're the only show so who else could be doing it I'm Katie stole hi Katie hi I'm Cody Johnston Cody Johnston Jonathan also here that's what I know about him always hi hello there he is here he is he cheers y'all cheers to America America the Brave and the Bold and the Beautiful and the batshit a little housekeeping eagle-eyed viewers will notice that this podcast episode even more news is coming out before some more news this week and that is because we had ourselves a debate y'all and now we're going to record our show tonight Tuesday so yeah we are don't worry somewh news will be coming out this week yes it will um it is prepared it'll probably be a bit of a companion to this uh particular episode of the podcast because we kind of discussed the DNC and the um The Vibes of it all he's saying probably but that is what will be happening later this week yeah promise I we filmed and uh wrote and filmed and edited and will be releasing it is I do too it is exactly what I just described so before we get into it we all have a beverage this evening it's true we all decided that we would enjoy our own beverage debate things got to enjoy something and that we would save our drink for the show so boys please I'm dying to know what have you been Jo enjoying all evening well I made a um I made a a a tropical uh mixture of rum and pineapple mango juice and uh I gave it a couple different names I call it a pea whatever makes sense um and uh uh the late great Hannibal nectar oh very good very good sounds delicious that does sound delicious a nice glass of very refreshing in refh this hot hot room I'm having a whisk she sour okay naps good job thank you Cody thank you you're you're welcome thank you Katie wait thank you okay wait a little more you thank me too you thank me thanks you're welcome you it's called being an ally and I think that's the perfect way to do she sour I curled up inside a little bit but that's just from so nice and warm in there yeah and it's warm in there um that really good what you having thank you I'm just waiting for what are you having I'm calling this cocktail riding Vibes it's just that's like more of a general debate theme uh this is a a standard vodka soda but with a whole bunch of frozen berries in my mushroom glass that was given to me as a birthday present from my friend Eli who also a show Eli no that's Elon Eli you love you're listening I'm so I'm so sorry he's going to be horri I'm I'm so sorry everybody apologize to Eli I guess I'm sorry well we did it y'all we had another debate I mean we specifically we all had that debate we watched it yeah we definitely watch it we watched it together this one through felt much better than the last one she didn't do the thing she didn't do the thing that he did she didn't do this she had was like lose her train of thought and stare off in the space for 30 seconds and he did the thing that he does he did the thing that he does yeah exactly and I do think that the main story of this evening is that he did the thing that he does yeah I mean that's the thing like uh you know she didn't do spectacularly um he did exactly what you would expect um we get into this again in our EP other episode of the show uh later this week a lot of stuff she said was like fine and a lot of it was like frustrating to see and a lot of it was like oh so the same same As It Ever Was same As It Ever Was same as it sorry the god of Israel stuff was like not uh helpful to hear it was nothing new it was just just platitude after platitude uh saying basically nothing and you know yeah like even some answers she gave were like well that's not what they asked you definitely prepared this specific thing to say she didn't get rattled by him which is in terms of what I think a lot of people on the other side might be looking for would be to see her get rattled by him in some capacity so she definitely held her own up there um but yeah I still feel very blah about yeah even I mean even like President don't talk about like what you've done talk about what you're going to do but even like the first question was about like are you better off and it seemed like a really great opportunity at the very very beginning to preempt sort of like what he's going to say um and actually like talk about like well we did this we did this we did this we started we started from the pandemic and now we're here and like jobs unemployment all this kind of stuff um but she kind of like talked really vaguely about like what she kind of would do and how like he has this idea of like an opportunity economy which I'm sure we'll hear a lot of more in the future it's a nice phrase yeah it's a good it's a solid phrase it also uh stops uh a lot of the um I guess the ansy woke people uh about opportunity of outcome she's not saying an outcome economy it's an opportunity economy um so yeah it's fine but I I kind of wish at the beginning she was like yeah this is how we started and here's where we're ending so yes you're better off than when we got elected right but that's I would love to see a politician be able to say like I understand that you were hurting at home um I understand that um I am paying attention to that it's hard to see it sometimes but look maybe that's a waste of words but that energy at all like an instead of just blowing past even the concept that people have had a hard time and like I know we all have our different thoughts but at the end of the day that's what people feel at home uh while they're watching this I feel like she kind of did I guess she kind of did but I feel like this debate or what she intended to do with the debate was not really for us you know she came in with a mission that mission is most people have made up their minds there is a sliver of undecided voters who are either Trump or nobody and there's a sliver of undecided voters who are either KLA Harris or nobody and I think she wanted to win some of those people on one side who are getable to vote for her and let Trump do his thing so that the people that he could lose that he would lose who maybe forgot what that was all about and I I think she did that job she set trap after trap for him like she ran the same play seven or eight times and he like she was Lucy with the football every single time and he tried to he kicked it every time he flew in the air every time she baited him with Central Park 5 and he took it she I mean the she baited him on crowd sizes he dove into that one so and like so I agree with you guys I don't it's like it's not like I heard every policy platform I want to hear but I think she came in saying like here's what I need to do to like move the needle a little bit more and stop these poles from maybe slipping and attack not for us um well yeah I'm just of two minds and I think that that's going to be the story of this entire process for me where it's like I see that I hear you I understand that I have different inputs as to what I think would move the needle for those undecided voters but I'm not claiming to be right about that or knowing cuz I think anybody's who's saying that they're positive about any outcome is a realing idiot but at the same time every time we go we see we have an event where we're watching her speak where we're watching the DNC the the interview it's like I'm making that excuse and when we talk about the opportunity economy that's like one of the main takeaways I've got from this whole evening there are other things of course but that was like the the big one and I'm like that's not a bad thing to talk about and I think that those are some good specifics a $6,000 child tax credit I love that that's wonderful um you know incentivizing small businesses um incentivizing firsttime home buyers I love all of that but I do just kind of let down in general not let down uh I want to be very careful with my words um I just feel ignored maybe yeah well that's I mean that's that's the that's the deal that's voting forat that's the deal you have to make when you like I also acknowledge that she would did a great job uh just to everything Jonathan said she was Lucy with the football pulling the football there was one moment where this was highlighted for me she Lucy with the footballed him but also in the context of answering a direct question of uh why did you guys take the immigration bill because when I bring that up in conversations with people that disagree with me they're like you're just falling for the line that this was all a political move in you know and I'm like okay tell me the reason why it's not a political move in service of the election just give me any explanation but he was really distracted when he was asked that pointed question resp he was not he didn't respond he was distracted by a I'm pretty sure crowds siiz probably taunt and so while it was effective I really wanted to hear whatever that answer was you know what I mean uh yeah that's I think it's a a trouble with uh with him specifically uh debates generally because you it's hard to lock people down on specific questions because they have their preparation the things that they want to say um with him specifically it you do want to distract and make him look like a weirdo um because it's easy and fun and maybe hopefully effective but also you want him to have to have his like feet put to the fire and have him actually ask these questions and be like when he does go off the rails or doesn't address it have the response be okay but the question was this why did you tank that um is a and like why do you influence the the party to to tank it is a question that should have an answer at some point but I think you got your answer Katie because that is his answer he's like exactly we we all know we talked about this a week or two ago we all know why he did it of course it's the political that is still he didn't Thrive yeah maybe he would have found some other thing to latch on to to worm out of the answer but those are I but I want to see him deal with that moment but anyway but you know I guess I'm just curious like how that would even affect because like I uh very much sympathize with like your your this plight of yours where you're like yeah I'm like talking to people and they're like but that's why do you it's because of the petting or whatever they say um and uh not being able and to just be like yeah he's lying clearly this is what this was for I don't know what answer he would give that would convince them of either you know what I mean even trying to convince anybody in this Pursuit I I I give up on that want to answer question answer the question like on TV here be confronted with this question that is a valid question it's a very valid question he should be asked all the time until he answers it it wasn't just me right that he brought up I mean I knew he was going to because it's like his strong issue or whatever but like he I think went to that border immigration well a little bit too much like the whole every answer oh yeah like irrelevant Stu yeah and I guess we were just distracted by train wreck I mean like I remember it but it there was another story that loomed large that evening and that this is another thing I think before we even play this clip is that if you're not in the like right like most Americans are probably not aware of what's been going on the last few days about how there was this rumor that Haitian immigrants in Springfield Ohio were like stealing people's cats and eating them and JD van spread this thing and it was clearly like one one American woman who like allegedly did that from some video that was being shared but it's actually like the thousands of Haitians that live there is who's doing the eating of the cats and it's only been like a day and a half really if you think about I was like he brought it up and I was like how could you POS like how could you on Truth social and he thinks that's what everyone's talking about so it's this gibberish nonsense and they're just all being racist but like he's bringing it up in this debate to an audience on uh uh ABC News as if it's a thing that like my mom or your mom or anyone's mom would know about and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States and a lot of towns don't want to talk not going to be Aurora or Springfield a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it in Springfield they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there and this is what happening in our country and it's a shame as if he cares about pets oh yeah the guy who's like yeah they uh they beat the crap out of him like a dog like they treated him poorly like a dog yeah that guy really cares about that only ones do not have a pet oh yeah they don't they don't care for animals in that in that family Mr Biden's do at least at least Biden had a bunch of violent dogs violent violent do bunch of dogs that tried to eat people yeah at least he had a bunch of poorly trained violent dogs instead of no dogs all a normal American yeah exactly and there's nothing like there's no we have the every time we do an episode about this we have the moral panics episode we talk about well it starts with this kernel of Truth and then blows up from here there's nothing here's they're just being racist and JD Vance did it and then uh today he tweeted out like well uh maybe uh it might not be happening but it but the fact is that people believe it because of the thing that like and then keep sending your cat memes I we can't we can't keep going like this we can't have this guy who's trying to be the vice president just be tweeting like Bas send send your cat memes for the meme War we can't do this we can't let this happen he can't we can't have a a a based like poster uh be the vice president it's unpleasant and also he's wrong and a lie unly but uh it's so unpleasant Bas no stop it JD it would be great maybe we we could split up President and Vice President and just make that there's two jobs there's one person to do the policy thing and to be the boring policy person and then the other person to go on the debate stage and just laugh when the candidate says they're eating all the dogs and cats the dog supposed say to that I mean you laugh right that's all she could do like what like she gave great reactions all evening uh she did she knew that she would have to and she was on camera she gave great reaction do you think she Frank Lun uh put out a tweet that was uh slightly uh sexist it was on content Harris is winning visually she's hurting herself beg it to differ a sir Frank shut up he's our guest next week though Frank L you're welcome to the show Frank we have question what's your what's what what's your opinion Frank what's the most evil poll you've ever done um there are so many to choose from how could I um do you think that people um were really really thrilled to find out that uh people at Goldman Sachs think that Trump would be bad for the economy do you think they heard Harris say that and be like wow I didn't I didn't know that Goldman Sachs you I mean the people who paid uh uh Hillary Clinton 100,000 a speaking gig that'll I swear there were sometime sometimes like obviously the any Gaza stuff is like um but there were a few times she she would like throw in stuff like that was like actually Goldman Sach loves me America yeah you think that's good we're good all right like the fracking the like the fracking stuff um uh it's just like every you know every primary it's like I hate fracking I want to bury fracking let's shoot fracking into the Sun and then general election I love fracking I'll Frack here I'll drill into the thing I'll drink your milkshake I don't care I'll do I'll use my gun which I own to do the fracking yeah my gun that I own she did get the the values the changing question like how you know if your values changing yeah the best answ you could have given is like yeah I'm a politician move on yeah I was which is primary then I'm running in a general election now but uh now it was better than the fetman answer about fracking um which was not an answer which was not an answer and I guess In fairness to fedman he had recently had a stroke like k your point like it's just it is a little you know it's it it's they're they're playing what we all wanted which is generic Democrat I didn't want that um well I know but I know but you know what I mean don't include me as instead of Biden the best candidate is generic Democrat and seems like that's really what they're going for which is just like yeah golden Sachs loves me and I uh I own guns too but also we need to give everybody the opportunity to have health care and like all the things so it's like very middle of the road and uh I would also like to what you were talking about earlier like to have her say Hey you know I understand you're struggling for this reason or this reason I I maybe we don't respond uh to the people as much as we should all the things that you'd want somebody say that would be nice I don't think that's in the cards for this particular candidate um uh or this particular election unfortunately although we did get Trump to call her a Marxist so that was fun and that was in the first five minutes really came the gate yeah I think perhaps right now we should take a break for ads I knew it sweet Kentucky Charlie businesses can be hard so much sawdust to purchase pounds and pounds of the stuff but Cody has to eat something am I right I am I'm right and listen the last thing anyone wants to worry about is their business finances am I also right thank you that's why you should check 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offer an optional paid product found plus and yeah I am right don't you know that by now and we're back from Those ads how fun you know I was uh heating up my tea and adding more soda water to my glass and I heard you guys talking about how well I think it was Cody specifically he says honestly after the last debate this one just wasn't very exciting fell flat I agree thank you felt flat I was like there were not we're not asking any of either of them to step down as the candidate nothing dramatic like that nobody nobody like just stopped talking for way too long it there was no firing debates about golf yeah there it's like it end it seems to it seems to I haven't checked the discourse it seems to have ended without either side asking their candidate to step down and then having to force them to step down after they say they'll only step down if God intervenes and I think that that's just a huge disappointment in terms of modern presidential debates this was very uneventful like I would say in terms of modern presidential debates this was the least eventful of all of them in the modern era which there been two there have been two of them yes yeah but this was by far the least eventful what else stood out to us what else jumped out tonight called her a Marxist he tried to say that Tim Walls was weird too but he like like forgot about it he was like I should mention Tim Walls he didn't use the word weird I forget the PHR really out of it really out of it joted that one down really out it he's out of it that's right Donald he's out of it desperate that was as he started to she really started to get under his skin around that moment where he started pulling out stuff and it's like okay uh I glad I was glad she did call out she's like you know you're not debating Joe Biden up on this stage that was nice there were a few moments like where she said some things that we were for weeks have been like she should just say this point this out did he say that she didn't know Joe Biden didn't know the gentleman he what I wrote down uh he said she doesn't even know him and that he hates her and that he hates her so which one is it oh concepts of a plan that was a fun moment for us all I think we could Rish on that now when he was president he was about to announce a health care plan in two weeks I think he said in 2017 or something and then just never did and so he's been developing this like plan that'll change everything the master plan yeah yes or no you still do not have a plan I have concepts of a plan I'm not president right now but if we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive and there are Concepts and options we we have to do that and you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future [ __ ] you're going to hear about it you're going to hear eight years in the making oh my gosh I mean my goodness felt like really embarrassing to me cuz he obviously looks like he's caught like you know but who's to say how that whenever he doesn't know what he's talking about or what to say he's going to say yeah we've got concepts of a plan and you'll be hearing about it within a few weeks he said that at the very beginning again eight years ago he's before you go to a I'll I'll have it it's so funny to be like well I'm not president now you were and you are running for president you're running for obviously yeah you're running for president so you should think about this stuff you were the president so you should have had thought about this stuff I'm not going to do that work unless I'm elected you spent at least half a year trying to repeal Obamacare and replace it with literally nothing what is your deal man we could talk about the moderators as well by the way um because the right-wing reaction to this is that this is all ABC news's fault for factchecking him but not her it was so mild um the even the fact like the fact they did do sometimes like oh good they finally said something but said he lost the election when he said he won it they said you lost the election and you can't kill a baby they said it's not it's not legal to kill a baby is what they said like I do think that they pressed him on more hard questions than her he's a more frequent liar he is a more frequent liar that is the other side of it but you you could press her a bit more on some things I think that that's true but this these are the bigger issues uh so it's it's tough I know I but and like we're always chasing this semblance of fairness you don't need to like if he lies more you're going to have to fact check any more you're not there's not a quota where like well we got to make sure to fact check 10 of each of their statements well he's going to have 10 in the first five minutes and she's GNA have 10 maybe through the whole time does that is that equal treatment or is that overweighting one side because one is a huge like pathological liar I'd also plug real quick our episode this week that'll come out in a day or two it is also about a lot of this where you're kind of overweighting this one side and trying to over overly fact check the Democrats for example because you know that he's going to go up on stage and say that they're eating cats and dogs but meanwhile Trump got more speaking time he spoke for more than 5 minutes more than comml Harris did 42 minutes 52 seconds to 37 minutes 36 seconds he really used those minutes well yeah well people could say that that benefits her but he did get to talk he got five minutes more microphone time and that's what he decided to do with it let me see if this has a bunch uh of what we're looking for in uh here where they talked about race or uh uh they asked Trump about race and I think credit to them for asking this question most people would say like well we're not going to touch that that's beneath I want to move on now to race and politics in this country Mr President you recently said a vice president Harris quote I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent I don't and I don't care I don't care what she is I don't care uh you make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less whatever she wants to be is okay with me what but those were your words so I'm asking I don't know I don't know I mean all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that and then I read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me that's up to her this is what you do to that when you're her just be like yep okay that's that guy she put it out what she put it out she put out did she even know what he's referring to well so it's could be two things because said that she put out as in like she put that out that's what she put out or the more misogynistic thing where like she put out to to get her job which is what they are saying as well so like maybe it's cross wires there or something like that but I I mean that it matter this doesn't change I don't know how it affects people on the cusp but the the a conversation the conversation is that she campaigned as being Indian what it benefited her and she'll campaign as being black they all do know that she's both but she is both of course you would do that right right and then it's like but why does it have to be about any of it I'm like I don't know why does it have to be about him being a billionaire businessman why does it have to be about anybody's identity here I go swearing again some people like it um but you know she's connecting with different that is the question that is the that is the talking point um that either was satisfactorily answered to some people or horrifically answered to the rest of us yeah well so also like you know it's fine and good to like get to know the candidate interest I mean it's not interesting it freshes me I've gotten into a lot of like things about this specific talking point you want to criticize kamla about some policy thing okay let's talk about that or you whatever but this is such [ __ ] it's just [ __ ] it's she's also barely brought it up she's talking about she barely it's the media it's other people but like just so yucky this also I mean we're three white people sitting here talking about this but I know that there's that that's a complicated just being being a mixed race identity in America alone comes with its all a whole subset of things that I can't even begin to wrap my mind around uh you know between being two different types of minorities and she's both she gets to claim both she can talk about her Indian Heritage she can talk about her black Heritage but he brought this on himself because he brought it up he brought it up and then when he's asked about it he says I don't care and then when when read his quote and told those are your words he says I don't know that's a ter like yeah I don't know what that he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't care that's correct but not in the way he's trying to say he doesn't care that he says whatever and people get mad he doesn't care he can say whatever about her race and then everyone's mad and weird about it like asking him about it and he's like I don't I don't know did I say that does it matter who cares he doesn't care he says whatever I'm Echo even that answer kind of Echoes the conversations when I've pressed people about this to say like I don't care I just I don't know I think it's interesting that I'm just saying that in terms of an answer to a lot of people they're like yep that's checks out to me I would ask those people if they are satisfied with the answer I don't care are they satisfied with him being told what he said and him saying I don't no in response to a direct quote from what he said sure is that a satisfactory answer uh because it sounds like maybe he doesn't say anything that he thinks or remembers I'm obviously arguing with people who are elsewhere I'm also inflating this this was just a thought that I had that it sparked something in me because this is a conversation I've had so many times I'm like yeah yep know how that one goes if they don't care they should stop bringing it up so much it's just that there's not much to bring up from there it's like the main thing you know what are you talking about we haven't talked about how we're doing transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison yet yeah there's lot what did that clip say we're not talking I didn't listen to that it was about I mean I'll play the I just have the snippet but they were talking uh Trump was trying to paint Democrats as radical on the issue of abortion um he was trying to turn the tables since the Republicans are the ones who are in fact radical on it based on the way people think all right let's do this now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison this is a radical left liberal that would do this and where he got that from was apparently her saying that she would support uh health care for inmates or whatever health care for inmates he didn't say I mean right like we we can only assume that that is that's where he's getting that that that's he's trying to say yes she would support health care for inmates because inmates get health care because you were imprisoning them so you got to let them go to a doctor make sure they go to and so he is extrapolating from that now she's going to force transgender operations on illegal aliens who I hate but we're putting but they shouldn't have those operations we're putting them in prison and making them do this H and I'm not going to EXP explain how i a a zed off that well why would he explain anything ever when you ask him about it he says I don't know I mean he's a few days ago he was like yeah your kid goes to school and two days later they they had some surgery or whatever like he just says he knows he talk about what he knows he's supposed to talk about transgenderism and they're forcing it on you and the surgeries and all this stuff he knows he's supposed to say stuff like that so he did that I'm sure everyone heard that at home and was like wow I can't let KLA Harris be the president because she wants to do transgender surgeries on immigrants in prison I'm sure that's the that's the the kitchen table conversation going on in America I do want to call out when she was talking about I forget even what the context was and uh she mentioned his rallies now he lies about his rallies and then the question went to Trump and he was like okay first let me respond to the rallies and he responded only about the rallies um like it all kind of Blends together and it's impossible to try to get a handle on it and like it's no wonder he can't remember the things he says because he says so much and doesn't says it like because there was that moment where he's like I don't remember what I said about kamla's race who knows and then uh David Mir read a bunch of quotes he'd said where he seemed recently to acknowledge that he had lost the 2020 election like a couple of quotes and he he gave an interview where he said I lost by a whisker and then at first he was like did I that who said that did I say that or whatever and then when it was like you said that sir he's like well it was sarcastic no I didn't I didn't lost I won big or whatever he doesn't know yeah like obviously it's easy and fun for me I guess to like play a bunch of Clips where Trump sounds that way and be like look at this guy but like right we're almost like done an hourong podcast and we're like let like let this land he said this thing and it's like the it's eighth on our list to play I know there's just too much dizzying it's dizzying and he wasn't even in his best form tonight um I would argue he was you would argue he was I don't know he seemed she got under his skin so he was ramping up but he was losing composure he started off a little bit more composed yeah and she started out a little bit nervous and settled into it I think she did she found her she got there took a few minutes I did not like when she repeated the most lethal military military world yeah not great oh she's playing the hits for again an audience well not to us but she's not talking to us I mean other people I you know you're in a bubble Katie feels like um um that feels bipartisan to me is it's a bipartisan thing that people like I know like I know that we have all of our things that we would say about it but I I would bet um not money cu come on um but I would bet that most people like the median voter here's like the most lethal military and they're like yeah we got to have that that's just what people think I think um like again she's like she's talking to people who aren't us and you feel ignored because of your beliefs and they aren't going to be necessarily represented or spoken to by a mainstream politician in either party I understand that also the Dem saying specifically that phrase pissed off a lot of people that she continues to not reach out to any I'm we spent a lot of time talking about Donald Trump this evening so I am just giving air to the things that specifically bothered me um and that was a big one again I I a lot of people that listen to this show not all of them but a lot of people um also feel similarly very disenfranchised by this party and I think it's important to note uh yeah I'm I would not disagree with that um it's just at this point I'm like yep yeah I mean the the it out of all the things to repeat um from the DN see speech and there were other you know things the some of the uh economic plans but right like the phrases mostly th military and then like the debunked claims of rape on October 7th like those kinds of key things being repeated I I like I don't want to be like well I guess you got to do that like do you have to do that you got to say that one right like you don't have to say any of it yeah you don't have to say that just makes you don't have to say any of it it sucks I I don't like yeah I I I to be clear I'm not like it's F what you got to say it sucks it feels Beyond just ignoring a sizable chunk of the people aftering to vote for that was like one of the lines of the DNC that like got a lot of like what I'm saying that's what I'm saying specifically leaning into it yeah and like that doesn't feel that's what I mean by it's hard to like yeah I think she held her own and she got under his skin and she taunted him in a way that d acted him and blah blah blah all of that and there were a few thing but I just I especially towards the end of the evening like that I just was like damn it um it's the maintaining of the status quo the maintaining of the neoliberal machine as it were um which sucks at one point said that in regards to different differing statements they've uh both he and his vice presidential candidate JD Vance uh have said about abortion he said well JD and I don't discuss it and then he said it doesn't matter if we talk yeah well I I don't I mean maybe seemed a little freaked out about um the abortion questions oh yeah I know he knows that it's a terrible issue for him it's why he said the thing the one day about the the vote and then changed his mind the next day because he got pushed back from the people that are doing he said something tonight that was like I don't know I forget what he said specifically that she's a Marxist or that he this that I was like that is just it in a nutshell of like yeah I had to do this thing but like I don't I'm not against abortion I just think it should be up to the states and that is the only talking point he oh yeah that like it's that like it doesn't matter what he thinks it's because the states have the power now and but least it was really clearly laid out the ramifications of what this means practically speaking for people in those individual states and he said like well look it's going to sort itself out it's going to get people are voting now he's basically saying like it's going to get fixed the states are going to fix it they're all going to people are going to be mad enough to show up and vote but like that first off maybe maybe that ultimately and certainly in some states you can't guarantee that it's all of them but in the meantime people's lives are being ruined people dying people are being arrested it's in it's unbelievable and it also seems like he gets let off the hook yeah where he's like well I wouldn't say that I would sign a National Abortion ban even though yes you would uh it's been strongly suggest in the past and then they're like well well what about what JD Vance is said and he's like I don't talk to that that who sorry who no like but you mean RFK like like uh uh you know obvious ly kamla Harris is going to refer to them as Trump abortion banss in specific States but like you know the Press shouldn't let him off the hook because that's kind of what they are because you did this thing and that's why you did it that's why you put these people on there like it is you know he wants to be like well I believe in the exception it's like well it doesn't give a [ __ ] what you specifically believe because you put people on the Supreme Court who are going to allow yeah and you said women should be punished you said you said that I know like fact check while he changed his mind he said that women should be punished for this that is what he said yeah get he he opened he opened this Pandora's box also just he's trying to dis some himself from it he's trying to distance himself from Project 2025 uh which is very frustrating um well he didn't read project 2025 but he does know that there's some good stuff in there and some bad stuff but he didn't read it and he's not going to read it so then you can't ask him about it I'm intentionally not reading it so it can't permeate my brain and give me good or terrible ideas or you think it's got both I don't know it's what a guy oh he took credit for uh making all those masks too which ones the masks that don't work no we sent gowns and masks all over the world no one's giv Us credit for what we did for the for giving them the masks that we hate them don't we folks we're going to ban them but we made them and we sent them out for everybody I mean yeah there's a bunch of stuff we couldn't even talk I mean he referred to he he did the same thing where he says oh they take they take the baby out and then what are we going to do with the baby which he it was saying that the former governor of West Virginia said that but it was the former governor of Virginia who didn't say that but he's suggesting that that's the thing um everything he did on January 6 was perfect we just this is lightning round of that oh they don't they could sign a bill they could sign a bill tomorrow they don't need bills referring to the bill they don't need bills they could sign a bill tomorrow uh I like that oh right that was his reason for not backing the bill that would have done eventually he got to it where like well they don't need the bill they could just sign a bill tomorrow that was about immigration his answer to that really it about the immigration Bill uh I mean his answer he's like they could executive order do it so they don't need the bill okay my brain thought he was answering something else when he said I'm sorry I didn't keep but again that's not answering the he said he'd stop both of the wars uh before he's even president yeah that's telling that's weird also say that that's because you already have a deal with Netanyahu and he's holding out until youting the from the news uh nobody ever talks about how Russia has nuclear weapons yeah you're right that that there was nothing that happened heard that before my God nothing ever happened because Russia had anybody talking about the nuclear weapons in Russia and oh and world leaders are calling him all the time they're calling him all the time he's talking to them all the time is in violation of the Logan act question mark seems like add it to the list of crimes you've done uh yeah they did some crimes they call me but they call me so uh the people can't buy cereal bacon or eggs people can't buy serial bacon or eggs which I assume cost money I haven't uh I mean God uh pulling out of I think pulling out of Afghanistan was the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened in the country I forget what he was refering he said something was the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened Afghanistan and I whatever it was whatever he said it wasn't no I can assure you it wasn't promise it was not even if it was somewhat embarrassing I promise you it was not not the most embarrassing oh he uh he didn't say black jobs he made sure to specify that the migrants will be taken jobs taken by African-Americans and Hispanics Hispanics he we wanted to emphasize I don't mean the jobs themselves are black you everyone I mean that they're just the jobs that you have to have he doesn't get the point at all no uh he doesn't get it at all no he doesn't he was really mad and he was like they come up with things like what she just said and then he continued on I thought that was really funny he couldn't like pinpoint what she said she he like forgot what she say Tera real weird he did say Tera real weird ter I liked when uh vice president Harris talked about the sacred Camp David I don't give a [ __ ] about Camp David cameo yeah can you believe they invited he brought the Taliban oh my go Taliban probably shouldn't be there I don't know I don't know I don't know where I was like there have been like war criminals and and butchers at at cavid uh I don't care I also like his like his attacks on like her flip-flopping where it's like yeah she uh uh she's a flip flopper and she wants she wanted to take away your guns and now she doesn't so that's actually good then right I guess he's trying to point that you can't trust sure that to whatever she says it's not what she means I like when uh they brought up project 2025 um he obviously it was funny that he said he didn't read it and also there's good and bad stuff in there um but also he said um everybody knows what I'm going to do what great great Campa got Concepts everybody knows what I'm gonna do he's got concepts of ideas um yeah everybody knows what I'm going to do except for these things which I'm working on very diligently and I know you keep asking me about them and I know that I've said you'll get a plan in 2 weeks for 8 years but there'll be a plan in 2 weeks and I'm going to formulate a thought bubble and that thought bubble is going to turn into a whisper and it's going to turn into an idea and we're going to sign that idea into law into beautiful beautiful law do you guys think we've done it I think we've done it I just wanted to make sure we got all the I want to shout out our uh editor who is going to Nick who's going to be working on this all night so thanks Nick yeah Nick put this be giving you more work but put an Applause uh put an Applause sound effect in there for you this for you all right guys we did it we arrived at the end of the show Once Again quick reminder this is the episode of even more news this week some more news will be coming we also oh love you very much much [Music]