Let's Chat About...Selling Sunset

[Music] hey everyone welcome to another episode of let's chat reality I am Michael and I'm Molly and this week we are talking about selling Sunset season six which just dropped on Netflix a couple of weeks ago um we are so excited I'm a big selling sunet fan I I know Molly uh You' mentioned a few episodes ago that that you had uh watched in the beginning and and kind of have some background on it um that came back for this season so excited to talk about it with you yeah no this season was good I think we have thoughts we'll get into later on but first should we go through the news stories for the week yes let's start with some news uh so first we have a few different Bachelor stories um first being that Charities men for this season of The Bachelorette were just revealed the new season starts June 26th um Molly have you had a chance to look through the man at all any First Impressions I looked at the pictures but to be honest I didn't really give like an inde depth look at each of the men on this coming season I feel like even if I look at the pictures I'm not going to remember anyone anyways for when they actually go onto the show so I like it to be more of a surprise when I see them first coming out of limo or just their intro packages so to be honest not really but we'll see when the season starts how everything plays out yeah you know I I agree I feel like I always look through the cast and then by the time it starts I forgotten everything that I've seen about them and even when I look at spoilers I feel like I kind of in the same way because I'll see different names and you know I'll follow Reality Steve on Twitter and look through you know as filming is going on he's posting things about different dates and and all that and then by the time it premieres I have not remembered a single name that he said I don't remember because when you see a name but you don't really have a picture to associate it with it's kind of hard to put them together once you see them on screen so um that's kind of how how I feel but uh yeah I'm excited for the new season to start I think Charity's going to be great you know she uh was super likable uh during the season uh last year on on uh Clayton SE or Zach season and um I I think she'll be a good Bachelorette yeah me too I'm excited to see her season I mean I feel like a lot of people are kind of dropping off of Bachelor shows but I still like them and just wanting to see overall the cast because that's we know we love Bachelor in Paradise and you have to kind of know from the cast from the seasons of Bachelor Bachelorette to actually get into The Bachelor in Paradise season so that's the main reason why I still watch those to be honest is just because I want to know the people for Bachelor in Paradise exactly I watch for that for paradise and I really watch for the the crazy professions that they give them on screen it's one of my favorite Parts I I love I'm looking at the list right now for this season uh because I had forgotten to look at the professions and there's there's a couple of good ones there's Chris who is a world record jumper don't know what that means and then there's um John who is an underwater welder which I don't know if that's as much funny as it just is very impressive and confusing yeah I guess we'll have to see when they get on the show if they talk about that at all because those profession interesting yeah all the others seem pretty normal so I'm a little disappointed overall but glad we have a couple yeah um next we have um Peter Weber speaking of former bachelors and Bates um dating davia from Zach season now I don't really remember davia I think she was eliminated in episode four or five of last season Molly I know you seem to remember her a little bit more than I did um so what do you think of them as a couple and do you remember anything about her specifically about her personality I just feel like she wasn't shown that much during Zach season so we don't get we didn't get to see a ton of her personality but she seemed really nice and like a really sweet person overall and I've seen her with pictures of like the cast from last season so it seems like she is friends with them so it's probably why like she has an in with like I mean once you get on the show you already have an in so and so's friends with so and so who's friends with so and so it's you know but we'll see because I thought that it was rumored that she was on Bachelor in Paradise then was that that mean that Peter was also going to go or they're not going I don't know the situation is bachelor in Paris is starting filming like this week oh really yeah I didn't if that news came out then they probably aren't getting to go if they were planning on going well you know what we've had um I feel like Danielle and um uh remind me his name Mike Mike um yeah Michael they call him had had started talking at least before Paradise last season and then they kind of still brought them both in so maybe if they're not like you know a fully official couple yet that they could bring in davia from the start and then Peter later on and that can be a whole storyline you know if DAV has kind of been talking with someone in paradise and then Peter comes in to screw it all up you know I I could so see them doing that still yeah that's true well well to see that could be some juicy drama we'll get to see yeah definitely um and then our last Bachelor related story is that Andy Dorfman former Bachelorette just got married to her I guess former fiance uh Blaine Hart uh D I have to say Andy is one of my favorite BS of all time and I know I'm biased because she's Jewish but and but I just thought she was just such a perfect like prototype for what every Bachelorette and Bachelor lead should be and uh she's one of my favorites so I'm reallying for her yeah no I agree she is one of the top of my on the list of my favorite Bachelor leads or Bachelor art leads like she's very much at the top of that I loved her season I just thought like she carried herself really well and then also I mean we know what happened at the and like she got engaged but then that didn't work out but then I just feel like she's made a real name for herself too and like her branding like she just has like a lot of followers now too which continue like success after the show which also shows that if someone can like sustain that after the show and really Garner that following of people who support her even when she's not on TV anymore like that just shows true to who she is and like how relatable she was and just like more so just like you want to follow her not necessarily because she was on the show but just because she is a really great person overall yeah 100% I think that I feel like that's something kind of Nick has talked about before too is you know these Bachelor contestants Bachelor leads who really are able to maintain that social following and just relevance you know years after being on the show it's not common especially anymore I feel like maybe even just three to four years ago it was much more common that if you were kind of in the top eight of your season you were probably a household name in The Bachelor universe that would be remembered from years to come but these days it's kind of maybe two or three from each season that really stand out make an impression um so I feel like that is really narrowing down and um and you know of course Andy was kind of in it even before social media was as big of a thing as it is now because she was what on Juan Pablo season yeah and so that was kind of I feel like maybe a year or two before that influencer thing really got big and so for her to still be such a big presence on social media really shows that she was able to do that without the show being such a a big part of that yes and she seems really happy now with her now husband so I'm just happy for her and hopefully seeing their content continuing and maybe kids down the line I'm sure that would be fun I think she wants kids so we'll see I'm sure there's going to have really cute baby content overall happy for her her marriage now and no rush into her fting kids are not yes 100% um okay so now moving out of the bachelor World a little bit um the there's a rumor that came out just this morning that the Traders which is a show on peacock that premiered earlier this year and really went viral I kind of wish we had started this podcast just you know a little bit earlier we would have talked about it I'm sure but um the there's a rumor that for season two which I presume will be filming pretty soon here um that it is going to be all reality stars rather than the way they did it for season one which was half former reality stars and half civilians who had never been on a show before um and so the the rumor is that for this season rather than 10 and 10 it will just be 20 former reality stars or other kind of celebri uh so what do you think about that that's interesting because I thought that was fun to see like the not reality stars also in the show environment because then you got to see how different people were playing the game versus like if people have already been on reality shows like they maybe had like a tiny bit of a leg up because they also had been on other shows in the past so I think it like maybe now more so maybe it levels the playing field a little bit in a way because of the people who weren't on shows previously like they didn't have that experience that the reality TV show contestants already had but I mean I'm sure it's still going to be an amazing show overall so I don't think it's anything that negative for this show but it's just an interesting aspect that they're REM moving to it I will say I think I like it and I I'm I I put an asteris that because I reserve judgment to change my mind but I think I'm happy because season one as amazing as it was I think the biggest problem that it had was that the non-reality Stars the reality stars took up all the screen time so the non-reality Stars we didn't see much of most of them really I would say maybe the only ones we kind of really got to know were Andy and Quenton and oh and I'm forgetting name but the one who was a Trader Christian Christian thank you um but I feel like those were really the only three that we got to know because the others either got out really early or just didn't get much screen time and I I think also kind of in what you were saying it is a more even playing field and kind of in the reverse way I would argue because I think the reality stars were at a disadvantage in the sense that the the new people already knew their games from whatever show they were on previously or just their personality from whatever they were on and so you know someone like s even though she was able to hide miraculously well she shouldn't have been able to do that based on her previous gameplay and someone like you know Cody and uh Brandy Glenville everyone knows what kind of a loose cannon she is and um it was easy to you to Target someone like that early on because people who you know have watched them before know what their game is know what to look out for whereas someone who's you know in it for the first time can really hide behind hide under the radar for a while and so I think it like you said I think it is going to be a more even playing field I'm curious to see who they're going to get I'm I'm really excited to to see uh some spoilers on there hopefully when they start filming um and yeah I'm just really excited that I hope they uh I hope they start filming an air very soon yes now that will be exciting to see when that comes out hopefully soon yes um so next we have a really sad story um so bling Empire star which uh bling Empire is um a Netflix show that was actually just cancelled um just about a month or so ago I remember seeing that that it was cancelled after I think three seasons or two seasons maybe um but Ana Shay who was kind of the matriarch of the show um has passed away at the age of uh 62 from a stroke um really sad she was I mean she was the star of the show I feel like she was kind of the I mean if you were going to compare to like Vander pump rules she was like the Leisa Vanderpump you know she was really the the one who was connecting everyone in the cast and um yeah I that's really sad I don't know have you have you seen bling Empire Molly yeah I also I watched part of season one I don't think I finished all of season one but I know who she is and it's sad to hear that news and um I mean it's kind of crazy that they cancel the show and then this happened because I mean the show probably would have been the same even without her but um I just I I don't remember her entirely but I do remember her being like a big part of the show yeah yeah um so rest in peace and uh I yeah we will we will certainly miss her um on a happier note our next story uh Tommy braco from Big Brother 21 um is engaged to his uh fiance Joseph mackley I apologize for pronouncing that wrong um but that's really exciting love Tommy he was also on the challenge uh this past season and um certainly could see him in the future he has a very entertaining Tik Tok as well I would say yeah I actually don't know who Tommy is but now I want to follow him to see content yeah he was well he was on a very controversial season of Big Brother um but not not necessarily the most beloved I would say on that season but I feel like since then he has kind of uh become more of a beloved figure in the Big Brother challenge Universe um and then our final story is also a really sad one I hate sad stories um but padmakshi is leaving Top Chef after 19 Seasons 16 years in 19 seasons of Top Chef um she has I I don't know what the show's going to do without her I mean she was season one was the only one she hasn't been on um and she was actually asked to be host of that season first just logistically couldn't do it and then they brought in someone else and then Padma came in season two and so for as long as I can remember she's been the host of that and I mean it's like when you know Tom berser on leaves Dancing with the Stars or um gosh if Jeff propes ever left Survivor you can't imagine it without them after such a long time and um so that's really sad but um I'll be curious to see who they get to to replace her yeah I've actually never never seen to um but I know great things I and I mean everyone loves that show so yeah maybe I should have watched it before she left now but it's all on peacock yeah okay well I'll go back and the season finale just to yeah to the season finale for uh season 20 is is this coming Thursday so um exciting all right I think that's all the news we had so let's delve into selling Sunset um so just to kind of I guess give a little bit of background so selling Sunset premiered in 2019 um the original cast um the original concept of the show was that it was this group of real estate agents um that all work at the offenheim group um and you know we get to see all the houses that they're selling and all the interpersonal drama between the group that part of it the interpersonal drama has certainly every season I think become a much bigger percentage of the show and I feel like we see a little bit less and less real estate every season um which is fine with me because I think that's really what everyone Tunes in for the drama um but season six just premiered a couple weeks ago like we said um I will say in my opinion I think it's the best season they've had so far it feels like now that Christina's gone to me that the um the Dynamics have gotten a lot more complicated and there's a lot more little feuds rather than basically everyone against one person um which I think leads for a much more entertaining show in my opinion um but Molly what did what did you think of the Season yeah no there were a lot of those like mini feuds which we can get into with individual cast members and what was happening between each of those because I feel like there was like a lot happening which was entertaining to see because there wasn't just as you said like one person that everyone hated um there was more drama related to various different people so that kind of made it fun to see I mean fun like it's drama um but sometimes I was like this is so stupid but also that's what reality TV can be yeah you got a love it exactly it's like we love that stupid drama um but overall I did think it was a really good season and I'm glad that I watched it again because now I can go back and see the other Seasons that I missed but glad that this season like when I started watching it I was like okay yeah like this is why I like this show yeah and I think it's a good season for someone who like you you know either maybe just watched in the beginning and and didn't watch for a while or or has never seen it before at all I feel like it's a very easy season to just delve into because pretty much all the drama is new you know coming into it there's not a whole lot I feel like a background that you necessarily need in order to still enjoy the season yeah CU and I knew briefly about drama that was happening just from social media and Tik Tok and Instagram I saying the no in that way sometimes if I'm not even watching the show I'll just see stuff and clips of information so I did know generally of what had happened in the last seasons so I don't know if that helped or not I mean it didn't really matter because what you're saying it didn't this season like people drama or individual cases and not necessarily bringing up anything from previous season yes so um that was interesting to see of how that was able to play out throughout the season yeah I I agree um so kind of based on um going back to uh you know previous seasons was there any of the former cast members who going into the season Christine Maya Vanessa and deina well kind of deina we saw a little bit of her glimpses um but the other three we didn't see at all other than Maya just very very very briefly on the phone um and of course she's pregnant again um but what um did was there anything any of those that that you missed uh this season um when I saw the video like when they were calling deina or Maya like I I remember them from earlier Seasons I'd seen so I kind of missed them and some aspects I like them as cast members but I also don't think the season necessarily needed them in the show this season so I like I I like them but it also didn't didn't need to be in this season yeah I agree honestly I didn't really miss any of them I mean I Maya yes I love her little moments of of comedy and levity in the previous Seasons um where she wouldn't understand a phrase or you know just trying to have people understand her through her Israeli accent was was always uh very funny but she didn't really contribute to the drama in past seasons and Christine took up so much air in the room I feel like when she was there and there I always feel like and I might have mentioned this when we were talking about other shows in the past that whenever it's anyone everyone against one person in a group on a show like this the show and once they get to the point of no return with that one person which I think they had gotten to by the end of season five with Christine every single person had been burned by her to the point that there was no organically coming back from it for most of them and once you get to that point on a show I feel like something has to give and that either that person needs more allies or they have to go and they kept bringing on allies for Christine but the problem was that after one season they would turn on her and so I mean we've seen this time and time again on other shows that one once that one person leaves the show Even though so many fans will say they are the show there's no show without them you know they are all the drama what would there be to talk about without them as soon as they leave it opens up the floor for everyone else to be able to have more story and more complex Dynamics and for us to just see more of the intricacies of their the group dynamic and the show always gets so much better once that happens and think it's you know hard for some shows some networks to to be able to want to pull the plug on someone like Christine because she has a big name but this season to me showed that the show got so much better when she left and I think we saw just about the right amount of deina for me um I didn't really miss Vanessa to be honest sorry Vanessa she just kind of wasn't a big factor and um yeah I mean like I said I think little glimpses of my are great too in the future I'd love to see but I think overall to me the cast was perfect this year yeah definitely cuz Christine also when I was hearing the stuff that was happening even though I didn't watch it fully I was just getting annoyed that like there was just just just that drama and there was nothing else I was just like okay we get it g suck like let's move on yeah and that's really what it was especially I feel like season four and five it was fully Christine was the only drama so yeah I think this was a much improved um were there any houses that were featured during the season that really caught your eye because that's kind of the other you know portion of what makes selling Sunset so unique is the the real estate aspect of it um and the beautiful houses that make me want to just you know buy $10 million doll house that I can't even come close to affording no there were a couple that I just like still Stand Down In My Head the first one was the one that fre showed sweetie that one was so cool like with the movie room the game rooms and like the just the bedroom the bathroom everything was incredible the pool um there was also one that they were both the ones that that pre- showed um that it was to the billionaire client of hers that it was like I think only one bedroom in that house but the rooftop of that had like 20 chairs and I was like this is so funny that like why are there just so many yeah Lou chairs up here for like this space I mean I wouldn't I don't know if I want that house but I think that one was just like a cool looking house um the other like one the other one was more functional and like something that like actually like has more reasonable factors to it but I think all the all the stuff all the houses they look at are incredible oh my God yeah um I think the one that really stood out to me was I think it was one that Chelsea was showing that um was it was in the very beginning when I think it was the first time we met Nicole and it was I think in Santa Monica and um I don't remember anything about it necessarily but I I feel like it was just had a very modern oh it was the one with the basketball court oh I like that one yeah I I just love I felt like it felt very modern which is really like my style and um I thought it was so beautiful but I mean like you said they all are none of them are bad and I feel like what what really I also love about selling sunet always is just the cinematography they make the like the show the houses even just the random scenes it's so beautiful I don't know what filter they put on it but I want every show to get that so good when they look from like when the all the I feel like all of them also have like Florida ceiling Windows like all the light they always film like on like the most beautiful days like yeah in La I mean La is usually beautiful but like I just feel like every time that they're showing a view it's just like so picturesque and you're just in awe of just what the view is from these houses or the the condo they showed too in the open wind open doors like it was like all floor like all open like I was like that'd be a lot of bugs but also I know I opened the door for three seconds and I get 50 mosquitoes in my house so yeah like how many days do I keep that open I don't know but it it does look nice it does um so another kind of story this season was that last season Mary had been asked to be the manager of the office uh especially when Jason's away and and Jason took a what 3- week vacation or something at the beginning of the season and so Mary was really left to deal with all of the office drama particularly Nicole versus crelle um and a question that came up was is Mary fit to have this job because she's very conflict diverse which I understand someone else who is also very conflict diverse when anything that involves me or anyone I actually know in real life and not just watching on TV um do you think that Mary is fit to be in this position or should she maybe not have taken that on I mean I think she did okay I wouldn't say she was great at it but also if she doesn't want there to be conflict there's always going to be conflict so I don't know why she'd want that position then um but I think with like so much that was happening it's hard to handle all the stuff at once and I think she did a decent job for what she was handed to her but I don't know if she should continue being the manager I think it's hard I think yeah I I see both sides like I think Nicole versus crelle was probably especially hard for her because it's two of her like best friends whereas something like bri versus Chelsea a little bit easier CU she really hasn't known either of them for very long and I think that was probably a little easier for her to deal with but I agree I think that if you're GNA take on that position you have to do the job and I feel like she was a little bit too passive and a little bit too kind of trying to be a people pleaser and not get either of them mad at her and just kind of stay out of it but especially when Jason's gone she's the only one there to to Really deal with that she kind of has to deal with it and um she kind of was a little bit a little bit too passive in that regard I think I I agree with you yeah um and then we have Jason and Mary Lou Who uh was his new girlfriend at the start of the Season there was a whole story about whether she was too young for him and now we know that they've broken up um within the last week in real time and um did you think did you see that coming or was that a surprise to you yeah I definitely am not surprised by that I think when we saw them together like they looked happy in the show but you don't know what's actually happening and I just feel like their lifestyle is really different in terms of like their long distance and all this stuff that like it just seemed that it wasn't gonna work out yeah I agree I I wasn't shocked by their break up um so moving on we had two newbies this season Bri and Nicole um Nicole wasn't new to the oppenheim group but she was new to the show uh do you have a favorite between those two what did you think of them were they good additions yeah so I really like bri honestly I think she was a great addition to the show Nicole on the other hand I just like don't really like her um but I mean even though Bri had drama with Chelsea I feel like her drama like made sense and she had a reasonable reason to think of like why she was upset and all that stuff but for Nicole to be upset with crelle I was just like what what is this drama even and she was just extra in ways that didn't need to be yeah I agree so let's kind of dve into into those two conflicts a little bit um so like you said first we have chal and Nicole I Nicole I agree I feel like she came into this just kind of wanting to have a problem with crelle because she had you know seen the show I'm sure been wanting to be on it for as long as she's been at the oppenheim group and you know for the last few years since the show has been going I'm sure she's probably not happy she wasn't Cast On It originally and I feel like she just came in one to you know with some sort of unresolved beef that celle didn't know about and that she hadn't expressed anything about in years and soelle was kind of like why didn't you say anything for the last three years if you were upset about that um once it got to the Palm Springs trip though with crell bringing up the drug addiction claim then I was a little bit I wanted to root for you celle but went a little bit too far too deep um but I I think even with that I I'm still more team cell than than team Nicole what do you yeah I agree like that at that point I was like okay why did chrisell have to bring that up but also I didn't like Nicole so I was like okay exactly I think if it had been someone that we were that we liked I think I'd be more upset about the shelter yeah and like I feel like in that moment she just like had to bring up something and that was the first thing that came came up in her head of like what can offend her right now right probably that and then a little bit of maybe even grelle maybe going like how is this woman like what is going on in her brain that this makes sense to her that she's bringing this up like you know maybe that's an explanation for it but I don't know that yeah that went too far yeah and then I kind of I mean I kind of understood her taking the drug test because she kind of had that was the only if if she didn't do it then people would ask her why didn't well if you really weren't then why wouldn't you take your drug test and so yeah I can't win in that situation a little bit but um and then crelle versus Mary had a a little beef based on Mary or crelle feeling like Mary took Jason's side in their breakup um yeah I feel like it's hard to know because that was a little off camera and so it's hard to know like how much Mary did take Jason's side I I don't know what to think of that really um I I feel like it was a hard situation for both of them I'm sure and um the ending was kind of sad but um you know with the two of them but it seems like based on their interviews that they're good now yeah I don't think that's too much drama there anymore I think I was just more just like I wanted you to be there for me and then you weren't kind of thing or just like fair but then you can move past that yeah I agree um and then we had Chelsea versus Brie touched a little bit on um to me Chelsea really kind of was asking too many questions of Bri that didn't have anything to do with her with her Nick Canon relationship um I I I mean I get having an opinion on it but I feel like it's kind of okay bring it up once and leave it there but it felt like Chelsea really kind of kept poking at fre with it and kind of wouldn't let it go which confused me a little bit but um what are your thoughts on on their VI yeah I agree and it seemed like they kind of came to an understanding like they were able to talk about the boundary stuff of how Bri just didn't want Chelsea to be talking about her family like that or just in general just like don't bring up stuff that's about her and that public setting even though her news or like her life is pretty public like it's not something that you want your friends or co-workers to really be talking about out in that kind of space so she just was upset about that which is totally understandable and I think Chelsea's realized that which is good so they can kind of not have that drama yeah I I feel like that's something that they can come back from that I don't know if they have yet you know Season s we has been filmed but we haven't seen it yet um and but I am curious I feel like if it doesn't get worse I feel like it can get better um and then we had a little a little bit of Chelsea versus Heather as kind of the the last Feud to talk about um kind of involved with the Chelsea versus Bri also that you know Chelsea felt like Heather was kind of uh playing both sides a little bit it didn't seem like their Feud was that bad during the season but on social media it seems to be kind of bad right now so I'm wondering if again with season seven coming up if if that got worse um but I don't know to me Heather seemed like she didn't necessarily really have bad intentions I felt like she wasn't intentionally being a potster in my opinion but any any thoughts on that yeah I agree I think that she was just trying to protect her friend because she was close to Bri now which I think that's a great friendship I love seeing he G as friends I think that's cute of them like bonding over motherhood and all that stuff um so I'm happy to see that Heather was still standing up for Bri and then Chelsea wasn't so happy about that but I mean it's what Heather wanted to do in the moment now if they're still feuding I don't know what's gonna happen next season but we yeah um and then kind of going into predictions for season seven um there's a there's rumors about crelle feuding with amanza they've talked a little bit about it in interviews um we don't really know what that's about yet but I'm really curious because that was not seen at all during this season um there weren't really any hints of it so I I'm curious what what sparked that and there's rumors that it's some sort of uh that chrisal had hired amanza to to work on her house her new house and that went bad um but I don't know what that's about and then really the only other thing we know for sure is that Heather doesn't appear much because she's on maternity leave and then apparently they didn't really call her back afterwards which she was a little confused about and I'm a little confused about but um yeah I'm curious if they uh how much she'll be seen in that uh we see her a little bit in the teas her so we know she's in it a little bit but um I'm yeah I'm excited we don't know exactly when that'll Premiere yet but um should be coming later this year yeah no that'll be nice to see just like I guess we'll continue to see the drama with Bri Chelsea and we'll see if when Heather's in it at all and then with amanza I don't know like amanza wasn't really on this season so so much she wasn't so I'm sure she'll be a bigger a bigger uh part of it next year yeah yeah but overall I had en I enjoyed watching this season and I'm excited to now watch the next seasons when they come out um hopefully season seven comes out shortly and we'll see yeah all right well I think that's that's about it but um thank you guys so much for listening and we will catch you next week bye bye [Music]