EP 43: Bennifer Divorce, Jax & Brittany, Morgan Wade | Bella Talks TV

hey guys welcome back I'm so excited today I have Amanda Bella of bellat Talks TV from live from New York City is that right are you in New York you in the Hamp y I'm in New York and I I can't believe it sometimes I'm from the Midwest originally I grew up in Michigan and then lived in Chicago for 10 years and was pretty much there from like 20 to 30ish so like the best years of my life and I'm going to Chicago for my birthday actually I'm so excited I have to get some re from you yeah absolutely I'll send you to all the great places and it really was like the best years ever and I I never thought I would be in New York but just shows you like where life you never know where it will take you so here I am now like sometimes I say it and I'm like wow I am here but it it's been a wild journey I love that I kind of want to hear a little bit more about that so we are going to do some pop culture we have a couple stories today um I've been busy as [ __ ] so I haven't like prepared as much so we're just going to kind of Riff I will say I did sprain my ankle this weekend cuz like I'm old and I literally just fell off a little ramp um that is nothing to do I just with anything in the stories being prepared cuz normally I was like actually was in bed all weekend so like I could have prepared butter but um I didn't cuz whatever but I have some great stories for us but before we get into that I do want to hear like so what made you like move to New York and like start a podcast and do you have another job I know people ask like okay I will say when I have guests on I get so excited and I ask 17 questions at once but those are my three questions no those are all great questions what brought you to New York why podcasting and do you do something else on the side yes so they all kind of you know of course meld together really into one it's all part of my story but I like I said from the Midwest um I went to school for psychology and I actually studied comparative religion also so it is so Random love that it I just am clearly somebody I am like textbook like small town girl that was like I need to get out and see the world and see other cultures and I just was always chasing that dream of like seeing everybody and meeting different people from the world and that's really my passion I think is just people so I think that that's why I leaned into podcasting because it is truly so like it is just having a conversation with a friend it is like the coolest thing ever that's been created like we now to get oh yeah sorry I was gonna say how long have you done it okay so I started this podcast about a year ago but I had another podcast before that that was called anti basic and this is really for this is like a deep cut for like the Amanda Bella OG fans because love it I I really started podcasting with I think that same passion for why I even went to school and studied psychology and religion and everything I just wanted to learn and like wanted to also spread the things that I learned through getting this psychology degree and like working in different you know cultures and seeing different religions of the world and stuff and I started my first podcast and that's what it was all about it was all about like being anti- basic like finding things about your personality they're going to help you stand out like learning your own emotional intelligence and I just really got into that for a while and you know as as you start to podcast you kind of just start to be like I kind of think about it like creating albums like beyon doesn't just put the Same album out every time like she kind of reinvents herself a little bit and like she has more than one story to tell and more than one thing to say kind of like Taylor Swift in her era like I had my anti-b basic era and then I was like you know what I got so deep there and I love talking about that stuff and like my friends too will always be like wow you can really tie Housewives like back to any type of like deep psychology thing oh my God same yes I love that I mean you probably have the credentials but yeah same I'm like a I've gone to enough therapy to be like self-proclaimed yeah we're all like AR experts especially when it comes reality shows and like these people that we see these kind of like case studies that we're doing right and I I just saw like a Natural Bridge from there I'm like okay I am an OG Bravo reality TV fan like going all the way back I mean I was really a real world person like I like I said I think growing up in a small town like I just saw this on TV and I had a sister that was seven years older than me so she would kind of show me these things that maybe I was a little too young to see like the real world I was probably in like fourth or fifth grade or something when I started watching which is pretty young pretty pris and like controversial that was being approached and talked about on these shows but I was really into that and that just led into other things even like the osbornes that were on MTV and like seeing like that first like family reality TV show and learning about celebrities living in these places that were so different than my family and so that was really like the Gateway but then Jersey Shore I think was like my next huge like reality show of just like wow these people are people that I've never seen like anything like this in my life and I just got so fascinated with that so reality TV just hit for me from when I was really young I followed all these shows and a lot of these stories of these people these like characters for some of them now like 10 20 years which I'm 37 so it's like not that far off like I really started watching these shows that long ago so I think just a combination of like my passion for people a little bit of just the need to like have this creative Endeavor in general and just having like a hobby and something to do to be honest like it's it's important to have those things too and then I just combined all those things like wrapped it into one and that's how I came up with bell Talks TV now because I'm like I need to take all these passions and like talk about something that isn't maybe so serious and so heavy all the time too well and I like your structure where you do like your you know kind of like top five um stories of the week then you have like an LOL and oh my God moment and I think just like different types of structures well the same structure but kind of Ean flow throughout each episode and um you know one of the ones that I listened to was that it ends with us episode and you were like this is so heavy and I was like oh my God like is this heavy like I feel like I'm talking about that [ __ ] too should I put a disclaimer I don't know I personally hate trigger warnings I feel like I don't know what are your thoughts on that like are people really listening to something and then just getting so triggered to where they have like a visceral reaction and then they like turn it off like just just next just turn it off right you are right about that like I have a mixed feeling about them like I appreciate them in certain situations like I do think the Blake Lively of it all got me like so worked up because yeah that is I do think for the movie itself for a movie like that that will reach so many people of all ages like that I think warranted a trigger warning yeah I do I do I think people going to see that needed to know like these are going to be things depicted in this and absolutely you know but do but do I need to be warning like my IG followers that I'm gonna like you're right like I think I think that these large scale things it's almost like there's going to be a bigger butterfly effect from that so you have to be more responsible with what you're putting out there because it is going to have a bigger thing but you're right like sometimes I think we're really like it is you know we are all responsible for ourselves at the end of the day and this is a lot of the stuff I used to talk about on my old podcast before I was like you know I can't educate everybody on emotional intelligence I had this burden of me trying to like get everybody to like wake up to the idea that they like needed to be self-aware and I was like okay for after a while I'm like you know what like people are going to do that people are going to learn their lessons of Life on their own time through their own Journeys and it's more about us just like kind of supporting them along the way and that's you're right like trigger warnings yes are the necessary yes we need to be careful and we don't want to be like offending people who have been through dark and serious things but like at the end of the day we these are things that happen and you it's almost like you kind of have to accept that fact you can't just like you can't just like like oh trigger warning I'm just going to like shut it off and not listen it's like okay trigger warning but like listen why this is important and why this is like a serious topic right like kind of like educate yourself and I guess maybe trigger warning like like brace yourself for like what's to come I I get it um really quick why did you move to New York from the Midwest where you just like like you said small town girl wanted to see the world or you moved there with did you say husband married yes yes so it was um 2019 so I had been in Chicago for nine years and I had like you know the quintessential like big city dating escapades of life like it was really for forever like ups and downs roller coaster relationships like moving in and out of living with boy friends like I did it I feel like I got it all out of my system like I I had Best Time Ever there and I think I I had just turned 30 you know 32 or something and or and I was just like you know what like I I think I'm ready like I think I'm ready to like go on to the next chapter of life and I was thinking about do I move back to Michigan and try to like get married and have kids like you know these are real Crossroads of like a a woman in the of of America you know like these are woman of a certain age yes yes like I'm like I'm in my 30s now like am I just going to like stay here forever and like deal with these [ __ ] boys because you know it was clear that it was like the universe was showing me like [ __ ] this ain't it like you you need to go move somewhere else because you've exhausted like every route here and I it's so cheesy but like it is so important for me again to like spread these practices I feel like to like let girl let the girlies know like this [ __ ] does I really manifested myself like out of Chicago because it was my birthday and I remember sitting with my friends and like hashtags and stuff had kind of just been like in like invented and hashtagging was like really big and so they were like what do you want your first your like birthday your birthday hashtag to be oh like the custom ones like the wedding and then the birthday the yeah they like you got to like know what to tag this was like you know part of the time right right right and I'm like I am manifesting I need to manifest a man this year so we did like hashman a Fest like M and I'm like this is the year I'm going to meet my husband like I'm putting it I really was like you know what I'm ready like I just felt it in my gut and that was in July and November of that year I was it's so funny too like I used to people used to ask me like do you want to stay in Chicago forever like what are you going to do and I always said like I'm down to move I was like I think I would have to go to LA or New York because I think Chicago like once you've been there I just needed to like go up I don't think I could like reverse and go back to a smaller town again and so I really was like I would be down to move to New York and this was I think all in that birthday conversation of just like what I wanted for myself that year and like by November I had mutual friends come into town to Chicago they were like come out tonight come out tonight you know the typical thing I'm like okay I don't know like I have a birthday party like I'm busy like I was kind of almost like blowing them off and there was just something in again like my gut that told me like okay fine I'll just go stop by for one and not even knowing that my future husband would be there and I got there we literally met it was like love at first sight too like it it really it was so cheesy because it was so like Chicago club like we it was back to when like I feel like Speak Easy style places like I had to like go through like a kitchen and like go down a stair and like it was like a weird club that like not a lot of normal people go to and so it was I feel like I went through like a lot that night to like get there and yeah I met him and I just knew right away like he for like lack of a better word he just has like swag he has like that New York he he's like the guy that wears like a New York Yankees hat and just has like he's Italian so like and I think all my years of Jersey Shore literally was going to say literally you manifested this from Jersey Shore like you knew when you were 10 years old that you know you were going to marry Guido not to say that you're put it out there like I real houses in New Jersey yes oh my God I love that that's so funny oh my God long story short I met him in Chicago we started dating long distance and um it was that was the end of 2018 so then early 2019 um I had like used up all of my vacation days I used up all my sick days I used to work in um like medical administration and so I I just like loved working with people I was like a patient treatment coordinator so I would like help people prepare for surgeries and stuff and like make sure like you know when you go to like get something done they give you like a packet and like get you like they kind of like I would always like love to calm people down before like having like serious things and like let them know things were going to be okay like it's kind of how I used my psychology degree for a while just like working with people and working in the medical field and um I was I had just like used up on my vacation days and I told my my boyfriend you at the time I was like I really like can't just be coming to New York to see you like every other weekend anymore like I do have a job and he was like quit your job and I was like what like are you sure and it was it's crazy looking back now like we just got married in April so it's been congratulations years of this thank you it was great we you know the pic you don't work in New York you just podcast well I I don't you're right I teach yoga now so I was okay I'm going to kill myself it doesn't matter I'm kill myself you get to do a fun career honestly I hate to be like that no I'm kind of like it's nice to have somebody ask the questions because you're right like I don't I really am not I don't want to ever like brag or like be like that but like I this is important I'm saying it for the girlies because my friends do tell me all the time like [ __ ] how did you do this like how did you meet man know what chant you did what hashtag you used what restaurant you were at in Chicago when I'm going for my 30 birthday you like I just we need to recreate that and I would also love to move to New York like I mean that's great yeah you have toing put it out there no you have to be willing that's like the biggest lesson in all of this is that I was so open I was so down for whatever like I was like you know what like all I know is that I want love but like I don't care where it comes from what it looks like where I have to go for it like I just was willing to do whatever for it and I think a lot of people hold themselves back by having so many restrictions on what they're willing to accept and do it's like sometimes it's not going to be so perfect and sometimes you're like not meant to just be in the bubble maybe that you've created for yourself like some people that's great for them but you know not to tie it back to like reality TV but this is the story of my life like I can always find an example of something on TV to like kind of mimic what I'm going through and I think about this this mom talk show that's coming out with the secret life wives I cannot wait and I think about them like you know they got married at such a young age and they're in this bubble and like they they were just drawn to like get out like they're going to have this reality show they're like I have all these millions of followers like sometimes you're just not meant to just be on this small like Journey you're maybe you're you're meant for like something bigger and if you're willing to be open to see where it takes you like you never know where it's going to go so I'm so happy to be in the Y I can't believe here I feel like we're on the same wave in terms of like mindset and stuff and um I mean literally I feel like my friends and fans that are listening they're probably like oh my God this is literally what Rya talks about all the time so um no I love that and thank you so much for sharing and you know I think um it does give us girly's hope like you know I I think you really yes I believe in destiny and fate but I also believe like you have to also kind of grab Life by its horns and make something of yourself you know like there's a lot of people with unfortunate circumstances that really make something of themselves and that's why I don't mean to sound harsh because I do have a lot of empathy for people but I don't really have a lot of sympathy which I definitely think is different because yes I can empathize with your situation but like now what are we going to do about it you know like my whole thing is like you cannot just like lay down and die and unpack there and if you want to that's fine like make that choice but don't be all like wo is me like babe you chose to unpack there now you also have the choice to pack up and move on whether that be figuratively or literally you know what I mean and I just think people have more power than they realize and once you like really get a taste of that power and like realize kind of like you harness that in inner power higher self um truly everything's Limitless the world is your oyster and life is just like so fun like it really is and I know like you know yes we can look at the news and stuff I mean I personally don't but you know yes but I just think you give life and breath of what you feed yourself and I'm not saying live in a bubble per se but like you know sure maybe we can't all and world hunger right now but we can do little things each day that maybe you know uh pours back in our community or you know like you're making little impacts on your neighborhood or your city or even the state maybe you do state legislation I mean I don't know it's like and then at that point you're making like some sort of small to bigger impact right like sure maybe you're not just out here on a throne curing world hunger but it's like you also are at the same time on a different more realistic scale you know yes definitely any that's my soap Bock on that yes and that's such an important thing for people to realize is that like like you said they really have it within themselves and they're able to kind of like create whatever life they want but that comes with a lot of responsibility and I think a lot of people maybe have fear of having that much power and having you know they would rather kind of blame others and we see a lot of those themes again a lot of shows and a lot of the These reality shows that we watch are like built on the back of that like we almost celebrate them kind of fumbling so much and it's kind of dystopian it is it is I think it yes exactly and it really shows us that I don't know like we have a lot of work to do we have a lot of inner work to do and it's kind of like a mirror to a lot that we're getting a lot like a lot of the times the things that we're complaining about with others are things that maybe like we do and we like self low within ourselves and so it's I always am taking everything with a grain of salt and like being sure to like you know I try not to use my platform to just spew hate or like spread insane gossip there is so much of that out there and there's also like kind of almost like a stigma that almost comes with podcasting especially about certain topics you know like even just as silly and stupid as Bravo because it can be a Suess poool like it can really be a toxic environment and so just trying to be like kind of a light in it you know I'm not perfect and I definitely have my I probably don't always support like the best people some people would say like hot takes you know but oh yeah but at least it's at least having that integrity and that like in I can never say that word genuity ingenuity at least like I am being authentic so and I think that's all that matters and I it is hard and I think people will see that and hear that and receive that and like you say if you like have guests on and you disagree or vice versa or even conversations in the wild like bab doesn't mean I hate you like okay I'm listening to Amanda but you know okay didn't agree with this but not gonna cancel her which is just crazy but you know what I mean like I think I think having um conversation to where you don't 100% agree with everything somebody says is I mean nice it's like normal like it's just getting different perspectives in people you know what I mean exactly yes okay so like I said it didn't prepare too much [ __ ] me whatever yeah no this is great it's actually just really great to like get to know you too and like I said like I'm interested to see like where you and I will have a a meeting of the minds on some of these things you know oh my God me too and maybe I'll just move to New York and then we'll be best friends okay yes please we're no we're going to be manifesting all of the things together hash 32 [ __ ] we're you entered your sex and City era I'm about to enter my sex and City era because Carrie was 32 when she moved to New York it's okay we'll get I didn't even realize that fact that is so meent yes isn't that crazy that's wild I love that okay let's get into some reality or just I don't know why reality you're on my mind um some hot topics for this week some hot stories um so as we know Ben and Jen are divorcing yes yes they are I mean I know I I honestly like a little shocked I really thought they would just like because you know like all of the rumors that have been going on over the past I don't know six months maybe even this last year about how like well since her crazy documentary came out anyways how they were like living separate I really thought they would just live separate till the end like I really especially like two years like no way in hell did I think she was going to file for divorce on their second anniversary that is diabolical it is I I think that was definitely like curated I read something or heard something somewhere that it was April 26 was the date that she actually incited as kind of the beginning of the irreconcilable differences so even though it wasn't until August 20 whatever that she filed it had been going on for for months about four months of this and I think that you know I think we all know that when you hit your Breaking Point you're done and there was a few things that happened over the summer including her Bridgerton birthday that he wasn't at and I think she probably was like okay there's some Milestones coming up and like if he doesn't hit these Milestones by the anniversary I'm filing I totally get that like honestly I'm such a birthday freak I tell you yes she's a Virgo her Virgo birthday no she's a Leo is she Leo Virgo cost I can never remember but she's she's she's a Leo and Ben is a Leo as well oh yes and A-Rod is Leo and surprisingly A-Rod is like the best match I really think she should have just got over the Madison lroy of it all and like still married him me too too GNA say yeah I'm gonna say I know this is controversial I know that like you know Ben has his flaws right the crazy back tattoo cheating on like all these you know Jen Gardner the alcohol abuse I am team Ben in this one because [ __ ] you divulge to the world my deepest darkest love notes to you I just feel like that's a betrayal not because I'm embarrassed that I wrote that but like because that was something sacred between us and by the time I found out about it you had already shown literally the whole world and it had already been in your documentary at this point and then you you know catch me at the end of it and be like wait what like I'm gagged like I I knew that was over it was over for him at that point it would have been over for me um and I'm not saying you know they weren't tip for Tad and like they weren't doing [ __ ] this whole time but like that to me is like really the ultimate betrayal like that's not cool I don't like it I agree I think it's kind of going down in flames which like I think everybody kind of expected them to almost quietly quit each other but like why because we know that they are both known kind of for these tumultuous breakups and the ends of marriages so it is interesting why we kind of thought like this was going to slip under the radar but of course it's not and I think you know Ben I'm also kind of team Ben in this too I think that it really makes me wonder and of course we're never going to know the truth but if I had to guess I think it does have a lot to do with that whole A-Rod Madison situation because again like remember she was really mortified like Jayla was totally I think she had no idea which again like it's one thing when you catch your man cheating you know he's been doing you dirty but it's another thing when you actually do think your man's obsessed with you and you find out he's cheating like that hits different on a real like a Bravo Ley nonetheless like JLo's probably like who the [ __ ] is that like JLo only watches JLo movies you know what I mean she's like a Guth palro like she invites people over to watch Romeo and Juliet or whatever movie she was in like I've literally heard that that she will have like watch parties of like her own movies which I don't know I guess I kind of love that brand I literally no like for a Bravo and I love Madison lroy I think we would get along great I think same honestly I just think she would breathe and I would find her [ __ ] [ __ ] funny I'm like slay [ __ ] like that's hilarious I'm obsessed with her like I am too I get it but yeah the whole um A-Rod situation and Craig steing the tea Craig knowing that Craig basically was the one to confirm what was needed in order to really break them up and like there was no time in between like without going back and looking like it was a very quick leap back from A-Rod breaking up back to Ben and it was clearly like okay let me go back into my okay okay I can't be like embarrassed like this like let me go back into like who do who can I call right now that I know will answer and I think she you know maybe took advantage of the fact that she knew maybe when her andent originally broke broke up that it was like she he was kind of the one that was more heartbroken so she kind of went back into that like what ex can I call that I know will still be down and I think you know who knows what Ben's real motives was to like in the beginning I was somebody who really believed it was just PR when they actually got married I was like holy [ __ ] like they actually did rekindle like I thought they were just rekindling for PR but then the marriage was what blew my mind this was giving them the original celebrity name moniker bennifer and then Miley Cyrus and Liam hensworth getting married I believed in love so hard and then when they both broke up in like six months I mean I know JLo and Ben were like two years and I think I don't know I think Miley Cyrus and them were like six months or like under a year like right out a year it doesn't matter I was shattered I was like holy [ __ ] like what's the point and I do agree with you that she went back into her bucket and was like who can I call and and um I'll never forget I saw this one post and for the life it was years ago but for it's been burned in my brain especially since they rekindled and everything I'll never forget she went to the movie theater to go see one of his movies for the live of me can't remember what movie but this is like years ago when she was dating A-Rod oh so maybe not that long ago or maybe when they just who did she date before A-Rod doesn't matter gosh I mean when she was together a while right yeah they were together her and A-Rod were together for a while right yeah I think so three years three or four years years yeah years okay well I remember families were like very intertwined blend remember they were like Blended yeah yeah yeah yeah so I remember she was with A-Rod and she goes to the movies and she's wearing these like tennis shoes I don't know like like cream tennis shoes whatever she has her like feet up and she posts a picture and she's like I'll always support like all of my exes or something like that or like I'll always support you like proud of you Ben or something like that I remember she posted that and I think was this when he was still married to Jen Gardner probably not I don't know but I just remember being like Oh that's kind of bizarre but I guess they ended on like quote good terms or they worked it out and like are friendly and so kind of support each other from afar and like whatever like okay that's nice cuz I don't see her doing that with like anybody else right so when they went when she went back to him after A-Rod I was like oh my God this is like always they were the ones that got away they were the original benefer they were the original celebrity melted name I mean truly like Google made images like Google Images came to fruition because of her green Versace dress and then she was the original celebrity mesh name and I mean that's pretty iconic if you ask me but um I'll just never forget that and then yeah I just I can't believe it like crash and burned so hard and now that video is resurfacing with Jane Fonda um and JLo on the phone and Jane Fonda is being like Jen like you know I'm a bit worried you know you guys are out there calling the paparazzi kissing and hugging like just be natural she's like that is us we're natural and it's like oh okay okay hun yeah I don't I don't think anybody believes that anymore unfortunately but kudos to her for sticking to her story I mean truly and I I've said before I'll say it again like honestly everybody should be as delusional as JLo is like you should really believe in yourself that hard um we could all take a little page out of her book now do I think she's I've heard truly the worst things I don't know I still think I would be like oh my God JLo stepped on my foot that is so funny like I don't know like I just think because she's in that so delusional and out of touch category for me that she truly can't do wrong because she's always doing wrong you know what I mean kind she's like allowed to like I don't hate her like I'm not like mad at her I don't think she needs to like go away I don't think I just think it's like she's just been kned almost as like one of these one of these stars of a certain you know capacity caliber yeah yes and you know we just kind of accept her I think we all like accepted her for who she is I don't think we're even like mad that she's getting divorced we're just like yeah this is JLo no yeah so JLo well I saw over the weekend that Ben is allegedly dating kick Kennedy which is Robert F Kennedy's daughter nie daughter yes it is Y which actually is so crazy because Robert of Kennedy is married to the girl on kirb your enthusiasm is that it yes and is that part of the Hines ketchup okay no it's it's not that's a good that's a good question I don't believe it is no I think it's spelled differently do you know okay have you speaking of hindes ketchup I've been wanting to kind of talk about this you know that new commercial that's like I'm Cheryl Hines or whatever the or Janet sorry did you just say Cheryl Hines yes okay I'm uh Janette hindes the air to the hindes ketchup I can't be seen dipping my French fries anything but Hines ketchup like and she's like it's like a Hines commercial and she's like do you guys have hindes ketchup and they like bring out they're like oh my God Janette Hines is you know okay they bring out the hindes ketchup I went down like a weird kind of rabbit hole because I'm like is this the real hindes air like they got to do a commercial turns out it was turns out also Donald Trump is related by marriage like removed to the Hines Dynasty wow is that crazy I just think that's such a weird Americana full circle moment you know what I mean yes that makes a lot of sense that was like when I started to learned that like football teams were owned by like billionaires that own other companies and I would be like oh like I didn't it took me like until my 30s or probably you know to to understand like how some of these things in the world work that like all of these huge conglomerate people are all like married and like intertwined even even as much as like some of these like nepo baby or like these marriages that happen it's like oh like this goes on a lot in this like 1% of people that right everybody is everybody's related to marriage somehow well and I didn't know that Gracie Abrams was JJ Abrams daughter it makes so much sense and then NE baby we'll talk about you know the bers Justin and Haley and you know they were set up and whatnot but um but going back to kick yeah I guess they're dating or something he looks kind of happy and also I saw that JLo was like you can't hang out with Matt Damon and then I saw him getting um like dinner with him and his wife over the weekend too oh yes I did see that you know I'm not surprised I'm I'm kind of glad someone's got to be there for Ben because like you said we're a little bit like Ben leaning in this so like I I want to see Ben having some support you know we know that Ben is like a Fragile with his substance abuse we don't want him having any type of relapses or anything like Matt Damon if he needs to come and and spend some extra time and take him to dinners and set him up on some like cheesy you know blind dates or whatever like have some friends come through like let the man have some have some fun like I think we all know like Ben hasn't really like looked happy for a while and you could tell that he literally like the whole two years honestly because I saw a picture of him smiling in this Nirvana T-shirt and I was like where's that smile come from yeah he lost his Sparkle kind of like Britney and Jack like he like lost lost his Sparkle in this marriage and I think he needs to like find himself again like I don't think kick is going to be it I I think that I've heard already heard rumors that his Camp is like denying it anyway um so I don't know how much truth there is to that I heard that there was um some kind of interview actually this is funny did you read about this there was an interview that kick Kennedy did I think for Vogue or like Rolling Stone or some kind of huge maybe New York Times but some kind of like huge publication this was a while ago and she tells this story about her dad RFK tells the story about him I guess a whale had washed upon on a to a Shore when they were during during like a vacation a family vacation and this whale was dead and he I guess has this weird obsession with like animals and like Taxidermy and like all of this stuff so I know I've been like what I went down a kick Kennedy Rabbit Hole when I read about this I kind of love that name kick Kennedy I love the name I love the name and I love you like a weird celebrity like yeah child name I I'm like if you have if you are a celebrity and you don't name your child a weird name like are you even a celebrity like I think that's you have to do that so I get mad when they don't but love the name kick but yeah she tells this story that her dad like finds this dead whale on a beach and he ties it to the top of their car and like insists which again is like legal like that's totally illegal you can't that's like messing with like the ecosystem of the earth like you can't isn't he isn't his campaign about environmentalists yeah yes he does all this weird stuff like environmental guy isn't he I'm not sure yeah take this gross whale yeah well no I was say everybody was like team RFK in the beginning and then they were like oh he's weird and then like I never heard anything about it so oh yeah like I can't even begin to go down yeah there's so many weird headlines like these stories I have like a dime you know a dime a dozen for these stories but he takes this whale or whatever and kick calls this story cuz I think the question from the interviewer was like oh tell us what it was like like growing up with him as your dad and like what what did you guys do on family vacations and she told this like horrifying story of him stealing this whale and she was she said there was like whale juice like dripping so much from the body of the whale that he had like the windshield wipers on and there was just like goo coming from this whale and stuff and that just LED down all other like stories that they uncovered and all these weird headlines have come out about him and I think yeah I think likey yeah I think I think um part of that interview though I think what I had heard it was that they had asked her like who your celebrity crush is and she said Ben Affleck and this was a while ago this was like in the 20 I think 2019 2020 like this was an old interview so I think just a lot of things are coming out from people looking her up and I think that maybe they found this old interview of her they read that that a was a celebrity crash and then the pr machine just started working again too we know that like JLo is going to not want to look like the bad guy here so I think her team is working over time to like dig up stuff about kick to kind of like put out into the machine already to be like oh to hopefully keep them from like you know dating or doing something so it's it's just all the pr machine working behind the scenes and this like celebrity culture but yeah there you just never know what you're going to learn when you Google somebody you truly don't oh um okay well speaking of baby names that a normal Jack Blues Bieber I kind of like it it's a cutie what what happened to Plum what happened to Plum Bieber I thought that was did you hear that yeah did you see I I didn't hear that rumor I I heard Baldwin I heard she was gonna name it maybe Baldwin Bieber and I was really into that her name is Baldwin yeah yeah I love that I thought it would have been so cute but then I guess there's like riffs in her and her family so about what I don't think that they okay so I think do you remember and I'm not going to know the full I can't remember off the top of my head but there's something with her sister I think oh with the bloody tampon that's crazy yes yes so I think was thrown at that bartender I think she's been like not claiming Baldwin as her like last name for a little while I don't know but as a girl on her period who's kind of ragy I mean whatever yeah as a PM sufferer never know what I'm going to do sorry I'm mentally ill okay Su me like excuse um yeah so I heard that I don't know this girl came up with some like crazy theory that well one it was going to be twins because she kept using the same Emoji twice and then like a different Emoji so it was like double double different and then so they thought it was going to be twins and what it was a boy and a girl and then one of the names was going to be plum because she made an Instagram Plum like she like Plum Bieber something like that so um like they found it and it said like bye Haley Bieber and um you know whatever I also oh my God sorry I just choked I also really like the name Road and I know that's her brand and I know it's probably already trademarked and I guess because it's already her brand but I would like the name like Plum Road Bieber o that was really cute yeah yeah that's so good I love Plum like I said like like kind of like gwenth and Haley and yeah Haley and Plum but I don't like that but yes I Plum I think it's kind of cute so they were saying that because she like posted a picture of her like eating a plum like it had a bite taken out of and then she you know made it Instagram Plum Bieber and then all of a sudden it's a boy and his name is Jack I mean I'm fine with Jack that's Jack Bieber that's cute I mean Jack Justin Haley it's like basic but um and I'm kind of with you on the celebrity train although my name is rehea so I just want to say that I've always been unique since 92 and everybody's copying the [ __ ] out of me also Disney Disney didn't call me for the pronunciation of Reya and The Last Dragon okay I do love that part of it is like when my exes start to have kids they're going to be haunted by my name I just I just love that I'm so weird because like I know they're not thinking about me but no they are I'm not thinking about them either but I just think it's funny because it's like I I've always wanted to like be famous and like haunt people and like here's a loophole you know what I mean haunt the haters but um yeah as somebody who has a unique name I've really actually hated the influencer train of these like oh let's just name our kid leaf or like right what was that one influencer that was like we have um tumble weed or like whatever like Western like that's a little far babe yep it is you're right it can it can go too far it can get a little weird um I didn't like love even all of the names of the Kardashian kids like some of them I'm like we really got lost in the sauce there like I I really I yeah actually yeah North that was crazy yeah now it's now I think I'm so used to it that it's not even that crazy anymore but I um I really I really didn't like the ones that like Kylie chose and I really don't like um I really don't like Chloe's son's name I think it's Tatum um Tatum yeah I don't know like I just normal it's yeah it's it's like in between it's not crazy enough where it's like a wild like true like true is random as [ __ ] like I'm obsessed with true so the Tatum is just like weird they said that true is like a family name I don't know if I really believe that but like I think that's so weird to name your daughter true I mean that one actually is the weirdest dream yes yeah so many like so many weird ones yeah I I don't know and then I mean yeah it's not it's not my favorite I will say um okay moving on I lost my no it's okay no I could talk about baby all day long because there's some Wild Ones oh did you happen to see um or listen to Morgan Wade's new song with Kesha okay I actually I don't think I give it a full listen but I think I saw some lyrics and I think I maybe heard a little clip and I mean it's like how much longer are we going to pretend that it's they're not that they weren't together like weren't scissoring come on and also with Su Stacks um this weekend with her Pizza she's like Scissor Sisters with Kyle Richards like cutting the pizza babe that's crazy so insane I so it came on my I don't know Friday uh like new music Friday or country I don't know I've kind of been in like a weird because I've been just over music whatever I've been like in a weird um like country kick lately so I guess maybe I it doesn't matter whatever it came on Spotify and I was like what the [ __ ] is this first of all I love Kesha I don't think that their voice is Blended whatsoever second of all I'm reading the lyri because I started over I'm like what is this song and I start reading the lyrics and I'm like Den we're in Denver and your shirts in my bag and then Kyle's like packing she's like oh that's Morgans that's Morgans that's Morgan's I and now they don't talk and now they don't talk well I think that Morgan was really in love with her I do I think that this maybe was like a little bit one-sided and I think Morgan really I mean think about when you really take like the sex out of it like the femaleness out of it the womanness out of it when we really take eliminate that like when when a girl like think if this was if Kyle Richards was a guy like let's just replace Kyle with like Mauricio like this younger girl she's in her 20s she wants to be an upand cominging star she's meeting this really famous you know not even just her as a person being famous from this huge famous Hilton family I mean I'm sure the stars were in Morgan's eyes like holy crap like this person's giving me attention even when I met my husband I felt that way and he was like a nobody I was like this amazing guy who successful or whatever is giving me attention and like wants to wants me to like fly me out and wants to it's like that gets addicting and I think Kyle obviously did have feelings for her too and like was maybe experiencing something with her that she had never experienced before like they clearly have a connection but I think it really I like have just drove myself crazy about this like I think even just from last year still watching the whole season of of Beverly Hills that I think it has just a lot to do with Kyle just not being ready to address it and her having having such a young daughter still who is under 18 um Porsha yeah yeah well that and I also think Kyle just was really like not desperate in a bad way but like just for attention and I think maybe her cup hadn't been filled in so long that she forgot and like Morgan you know filled that like female friend best filled the void of losing her best friend so she not only got a best friend but also potentially lover and it's like you kind of get two for the price of one and maybe Kyle had a fling maybe she was just exploring and then realized like okay I'm not actually a lesbian but I did I did have feelings for this person or she filled some type of void in my life and but I definitely do agree I think Morgan definitely liked Kyle whether it was reciprocated or not in the same way um I agree as well and I don't I here's what I've always said now I would like your hot take on this we all know that the girls are scared of Kathy girls meaning Kyle and Kim let alone Paris is petrified I don't give a [ __ ] what you say Paris is petrified of her Nikki is disassociating all the time and I just think they have a lot of trauma there all of them okay I'm not saying Cathy's a bad person she is a Pisces and she does scare the [ __ ] out of me do I do I wanna do I like Cathy and want to keep her at of arms length absolutely I want to go to the parties I love Paris I love the Hiltons I think I could go on about them okay my thing is I know for we all know for a fact that [ __ ] Kim and Kyle especially Kyle is [ __ ] petrified of Kathy Hilton so is Paris Paris is like if Paris wasn't successful on her own with her businesses and billionaire on her own without you know the Hilton brand Kathy would completely I just think disown her in the sense of her um creative Outlets being a DJ and like you know being 41 and or almost 42 and like a [ __ ] DJ babe like grow up not telling Paris to grow up you get what I'm saying okay hold on I'm going somewhere with this Kyle same way okay Paris is like a gay ion Paris loves the gays Kyle is potentially a lesbian she'll never come out because I think both of them are [ __ ] petrified of Cathy I think because Kathy because Paris is like a gay icon and does the DJ and like the rainbows and stuff and has her own thing Kathy accepts it in the public do I think that if one of her kids would be gay by lesbian trans absolutely [ __ ] not Kathy Hilton would not ow it in the slightest do you think that she would allow her own [ __ ] sister to be gay I personally don't think so I personally don't think so yep but what do you think no I agree with you I think it's not even as much as like allowing it's just the fact that it is it is something that I don't even think she would acknowledge and it's almost what's the point it's almost like what's the point of even trying to tell her something that she's going to completely like deny and almost act like isn't happening so it's better just to like not even expose her to what's really going on she's almost like childlike like that where it's like let's not even like tell her because unless she's gonna unless Kyle's gonna marry her and have a family with her and commit the rest of her life there's no point in like getting her involved but absolutely just the disapprove like the disapproving like I think it would be more of like a talking her out of it too like oh are you sure how do you know like I think there would just be like a doubt a doubt created around it and it wouldn't be celebrated and Kyle like takes Kathy's opinions and words so serious that even just creating a little seat of Doubt same with Paris um would just send them into a spiral yep Paris didn't want Kathy to know that she was having kids because she already knew Kathy was going to think that she's a bad mom so it was like I can't even tell my mom I'm G to have her have have him have her you know have these two children because Kathy's gon to be like are you ready are you sure I don't think you're going to be a good mom I don't know just stick to the dogs you're too busy all you're too old you want to be a mom at 40 yep so I don't think it's I'm not allowing yeah exactly it's like it's not she straight up like oh you're not allowed to it's just like okay but I'm just going to like mutter a bunch of excuses under my breath of like why I think it's a bad idea and like okay but that's just like my opinion and ah I I actually hate Kathy okay good me too I I don't I don't know if like hate but I definitely don't see what everybody else is seeing in Kathy oh she's so funny oh she's so babe I'm seeing an ice queen what are you seeing like no parison love ruined me like it petrifying me to my core did you read her book no I I don't know if I'm ready cried it no honestly like you have to it is too much and I had to it took me like a while to read it because she's actually I did it on an audible which I think is worse um because Paris is narrating it and I literally kept zoning out thinking that like Paris is just reading a story that she got hired to read you know what I mean forgetting that this is her story great writer obviously she had like a ghost writer Like Somebody But like I do think Paris is really [ __ ] smart she's not a billionaire just you know for shits and gigs I mean sure she would have money on her own for her family but she literally has separate like her own separate entities and Brands and billion dollars on top of her family's money okay like I could go on about parisel and I think she's great this book oh my God this book was so good she and maybe it is because she's older and she has done a lot of therapy I'm not my mom hasn't done she's really terrible should I cut this out um but my mom hasn't done half the things that Kathy has done in terms of sending me away to like some crazy Camp although I feel like she's definitely tried but there's no way there's no Paris is such a better person than I am there's no way I could ever forgive my parents I don't care if they were Conn as well I personally I God's still working on me I can't so she's a better person than I am and I just believe I love I love Paris too I'm a big Paris fan and I just believe that leis Lisa Rena I love her also by the way I don't care if she serves the pie I don't care if she's a little problematic she was like need you literally hired me for a job like I'm [ __ ] here to serve because Beverly Hills is so [ __ ] boring I could get into that but I so believe Lisa Rena talking about the [ __ ] DJ when they were in what Aspen or wherever and how she what she called the DJ a slur right was that it yeah she called him the f word because he refused to play Michael Jackson Michael Jackson which is not uncommon in today's world but we know yeah Kathy and if you noticed in that video of her in Sutton singing karaoke she was singing jaon yeah I didn't but I I heard about it that because they just came over like on the weekend right or like that just that's her best that's her bestie so it just shows the dark dark secrets that families and family that are considered friends like friends that are family like it all out there and like the hills of Beverly Hills there's so many secrets and so much darkness that goes on out there so it's the hills really going to know like I was shocked to see how much we saw on paris's in love because it really exposed her to be a monster my eyes I was really surprised that came out um because you see even in that show she threatened even like the person that was writing paris's book and she's I think she if she's threatening authors she's definitely threatening peacock Universal like hey you can't release this so sorry go ahead oh no I just think that there's you know I think there's a chance there is litigation always possible I think that they're like some the type of family that would be like we're going to sue but I don't know we'll see we can and we have the money and we have the time also like she hates Carter yes and I hate that know I I I will say season one I was like he is a little weird and then I realized I kind of had like after the season I was like you know what maybe he's just like camera shy he's like not good on camera and he's like really he's just this like normal guy who owns businesses and is like a I don't I think he's a billionaire too or like multi-million whatever his own right and he does not want anything really to do with fame or TV but he knows that's her life and he supports her and I came around to it I have chills because I came around to it in season two he like got better on camera so I think he he just came off weird on camera and because she's also so awkward sometimes and like the baby voices and like then they're awkward and they're feeding off each other's energy because like the cameras are there I just think it was that I think he's a doll um I have a friend whose mom is like mutual friends with him and they say great things about him and also why would you not be happy that your daughter Found Love at 40 has dodged all of these crazy bullets about you know getting engaged and to these horrible PE well not all them are horrible but just not the right ones and like this guy is successful on his own what's nothing to do with your daughter's money or anything and like does nothing but support her and like Kathy just she'll say stuff to him and I was like what the [ __ ] that's crazy like like and I don't think that they're like aware in the moment because you're so like again you're you know you're running around you're hosting you're you have camera you're planning this you're planning this whatever and then all of a sudden you like kind of stop maybe at the end of the day and you're like wait what the [ __ ] did she just say you know what I mean yeah I think that I'm not a cath it's a mix of her P the power of her and the idea that that she just doesn't mean what she say or that she's almost like it's like just getting that a pass like we have a lot of these kind of types of reality stars or celebrities in this culture that like they do crazy things but because of the status of where they're at or because of this character that they play they're like too dumb to know it kind of gives me like Teresa from New Jersey Vibes like even her friends will be like she doesn't know she's being malicious like she literally just thinks that she's like playing a game and like she's just play and it's like she doesn't know so everyone and everyone around her is almost kind of like she trust me she like do doesn't get it and I think with Kathy it's the same thing they they're just like okay she's not she doesn't get that she's wildly offensive and she makes everybody uncomfortable so we're just GNA like let it slide because she's powerful and she runs [ __ ] and we want to go to the Christmas party so which don't we all would like to go to the Christmas party yeah Len yeah everything I said yeah we don't hate you we're just scared of you to be honest we frightened of you exactly frightened that's exactly where you want us to be um okay speaking of Jax and Britney what the [ __ ] going on did is it now britz not Jax's what's happening babe oh I had to run like as fast as my little fingers would allow me to figure out what was going on with this because okay I have to think because it is so hard like I do not always want to come off like a woman that does not support women like I oh my God thank you because I'm a girls girl but like okay well yeah well yes but over the weekend I like I'm like oh I'm a girls girl and then I've literally talked to my therapist recently I'm like maybe I'm too much in my mind like a girls girl like to where I'm like no [ __ ] man like babe it's okay to be team Ben team Jack like you know what I mean and um there could be terrible women too yeah and there is and happens um I know in one of your episodes you were like I'm team Jack and I am as well not all the time but um I I have a story and he is really charismatic and I totally get it I okay I'm gonna let you finish because I want to hear your thoughts your boots on the ground I'll just go all in because it's like you know this is what we do this for so I can already see my followers going down now but I I this is my hottest take about Britney and Jack is that okay to me it's very clear that I already lost I lost sympathy for Britney which again is not very girls girl of me when she still chose to marry ja because it was so soon after the faith of it all like she didn't even let it literally she didn't even give us like a two season red like it was like it just went so quick and that made me be like okay she clearly is desperate to stay in this circle and stay on the show and she doesn't want to go back to Kentucky and I think we all know like I went through a breakup like that in Chicago where I was literally like okay like what do I do now just like go back to Michigan and it was like okay you have those two choices and I think she was like okay I'm doing absolutely everything I can do to stay from going back to Kentucky and that's fine it's almost like being like an immigrant being like I'm not going back to my country I'm fuing sitting here so she was just like fighting tooth and nail to stay there and you know she did it she worked she she didn't heal relationship but she did heal the break enough for the group The friend group to come back together support them getting married a lot of them went and was there you know which in the beginning when they got engaged a lot of people were like I don't even like want to go to this wedding it's such a sham and mind you they got engaged at like a Seafood Shack yes it was very produced to me I've been there I've been there and it's literally on the side of the beach yes it's on the side of the road in the p on the PCH and to me it's like part of why I love Vander pump rules is because they are willing to do what production tells them because they're not they're so raw that they need direction and a lot of these things that happened a lot of these sitd Downs a lot of these moments these confrontations were because these people were willing to like get back in the room together when a lot of the times you would just like walk away and so I think Britney gained respect for the fact that she like she kind of kept the show going she kind of kept the friend group together she didn't allow like a scandal to happen where like she broke like that happened with Jack everybody hated Jack nobody would film with him and like it it wasn't like that she basically was the one continuing to film with him and continuing to stay with him so everyone else was like we have no choice but to stand them so you know they got away with a lot but then so I didn't really like have sympathy for her anymore for that so then when it comes you know Vander pump rules basically ends for them they get cancelled during the band mic we lose Britney and J and then somehow they weasle their way back into Bravo like Jax just was like a cockroach that would like never die which is kind of why I love him too and it you know what I mean like they are they meaning just people like that who have a goal and they're like re I mean I don't want to be like no morals but kind of no morals like I'll do whatever to get back in the good graces or to put food on my table I mean at some point it's a little bit admirable I mean Denise Richard is doing only fans like yes I see the effort there to work and it's like we see some of these the opposite relationships where like the guy doesn't want to film or he also doesn't want to have like a job outside of the show or like just some of these like cling on men like these guys that date the girls in the show or marry the girls in the show that like don't bring a lot like they both bring a lot like they both are a dynamic couple so people like love watching them and I think when it came to the valley being filmed we were all excited to kind of get them back on because we knew we left off like we just always wondered like what was going to happen with them because it was shocking that they got married in the first place and then it was like oh my God they've been married now for a few years and Jax was like loving being a dad and being a husband and like we were just seeing this this but we couldn't believe it it was we literally had to see it to believe it but you it's how like the power of Instagram and the power of social media like you could you're only going to believe what you're like being told so for a while everybody believed Jax because he was online telling us like me and Britney have the perfect family we are the perfect couple now everything's great in our Hood in the valley and then Valley Cam's pickup and it just shattered all of this idea that they had like gotten their [ __ ] together and that they're like Messier and worse for each other than ever so I thought it was PR I thought this whole thing was PR up and until honestly like recently I guess um or up until she moved out to that Airbnb I literally well no like that I still thought it was the whole thing even like when they at the season finale like when they picked cameras back up and then he's like no actually I canceled the therapy appointment like it's all PR like I don't know I just I do I don't know I there's something so naive about her that kind of annoys me like I'm not a huge Britney Stan um I think she's cute and sweet her mom scares the [ __ ] out of me um the eyebrows on both parties and la la is insane no wow they clearly go to the same B person who like needs to be fired yeah they literally look like a Disney super villain like or a Disney uh like Queen villain situation and um I just I I don't know I mean the valley was great um I don't know I mean I do you think that Jax really had like so much money to where she was like I'm Clinging On and I'm going to be on this show and I'm going to be on venner pump rules and I'm going to be on the valley and I'm like come H her high water I'm going to marry this guy because also she said she put down 50/50 on the house so like she's obviously getting paid from VPR and um you know the valley of course and like whatever her Weight Watchers endorsements and things like that but true um I don't know I don't know and then now that she has money like to stand on her own that she left his ass yeah that's thing I think okay you're definitely right about that I don't think she was with him for money at all I mean he was living in that studio apartment that like Jank studio apartment when she met him like I don't think it was money I think it was the show I think it was Fame and I think it was you know not everybody even values money like that especially if you're not from money you know like I think she's kind of down to earth in that sense I don't think it was about like oh I need to be like wearing lubaton and like holding Gucci bags like she's not really that type of girl I think it was just like I need to be on this show because her mom was a fan of Vander pump rules this is the lore of Britney is that her mom watched the show but she had never seen it and and it's clear that her and her mom are like Besties I'm sure they were on their couch popping popcorn watching seasons one through three together and then she goes to Vegas and she meets ja no I know they should be on that show um smothered on TLC yes yes they should they would be perfect for that and and no shade to Britney like she is a pretty girl but like I don't know like ja is gonna see her at the nightclub in Vegas and be like oh like that's the one yeah she was clear that she came in in like no shade because I'm kind of Trad wifey too like I do love to cook clean make a nice home take care of my man like I am like that care of you yeah but I I think that she had that southernness and then like it was the combination of when his dad died and like he just needed her he needed a girl like Britney everybody in the friend group was was like you need Britney to balance you out like you're a psycho where you're going to end up alone you're going to end up like in a ditch somewhere like you need her and so he I think felt the pressure from the producers of the show the friend group everybody to like make it work with her and I think she probably felt the same way too like okay if I don't get over the cheating and I don't get over all these awful things that he recorded and said about me about not wanting to find me attractive and have a family with me and all that she just like swept that under the rug because I think they were just grasping together to like they were they were more powerful together than they were separate so they were like let's stay a power couple and now it's like it's I think you can only fake it to you make it for so long I agree and then what's up with this like him coming for her drinking and stuff like on the valley like I'm sorry I have severe stomach issues and like anxiety induced IBS and I don't even know gir or like whatever the [ __ ] I throw up so much it's insane and it is because I think he I mean he's the Raging narcissist we know I think that's why he's so charismatic and you know we know his uh flaws but yes you know to be around somebody like that especially when you're like so empathetic it doesn't even matter if you're aware or not the body remembers and like if you're subconsciously getting put all that pressure one little sip of alcohol I'm literally throwing up for hours same as her so it has nothing to do with like a stomach ulcer which maybe she did have or anything like that heartburn like whatever it is the alcohol because but it's not because she's drinking and she's not like [ __ ] up that she's like throwing up it's literally the anxiety induced stomach issues IBS gird like um okay whatever else because of the amount of like toxicity she's been in for almost a decade which by the way I didn't realize that they were almost together for a decade that's crazy yes it it is true that when you have stress and outside factors environmental factors going on you know putting my psychology hat back on that right it it is true like these out can cause you to have internal dysfunction it really is you you've got to clear like that cortisol out of your life and she clearly is constantly holding everything in and keeping that like Southern bell smile on even though everything inside is crumbling and I think it's catching up to her and you know one of the first quotes from Shea after the valley had wrapped last year was like I've been hanging out with Britney and she hasn't thrown up one time she was Shea was basically confirming to everybody like look Britney's already healing since even just admitting that she like is thinking about divorcing Jack and I think where we're really gonna have a breakthrough with this is when something is oh sorry my dog oh my God that's why I good typical candy um you're good we like the one thing with her is that we are going to have to wait and see like if she's going to file because until something is filed from Britney we can't really like cross this bridge with her because it's just like kind of what's going on a little bit with on um Orange County Housewives where it's like you have a friend that's always complaining about their man and calling you and like this is bad and this is bad and I hate this and I'm so unhappy but like they never ever leave and that's like we all have a Breaking Point it doesn't make us a bad friend it doesn't make us like a girls girl it just means that we have to set a boundary at some point and some point I have to set this boundary with Britney and Jax like are you guys going to work it out and get it together or are you going to divorce because like I I it's going to take a lot to flip me into not being on Jack's side but like it's not impossible like with new information maybe that's going to come out on the valley I could potentially be like holy [ __ ] Britney was the one being like you know abused in this situation pretty much and some of the rumors heard I mean have been wild they've been wild like I I just have heard you know substance abuse stuff I heard that like maybe during filming I you know allegedly things were like being thrown so like I don't think that she was her in a physical you know altercation but maybe Jax was just acting like erratic and stuff and then that can make you feel unsafe so I mean yeah I don't condone any of that I don't want to see him act like that well and I don't I mean she's she's definitely in a toxic relationship she's definitely in an abusive relationship whether it be physical I mean I God forbid I hope not but definitely emotionally and mentally right like it's definitely abusive like I think anybody who has a brain can see that but at the end of the day my thing with that is like you kind of chose your bed and you lie in it now like I don't know it might cut this out but it's like I agree like I'm just like how many times can you you cry wolf if you're not going to do anything about it and two did you see that she was dating what was it some guy from The Bachelor yes I did see that but I think that's Lori K Publications working over time I do I think that their PR is which she represents a lot of people in the reality TV world and I think that she like the devil works hard but like Lori Kay Works harder and so I just don't believe anything really that ever comes out about that stuff like yeah to me again Britney and Jax are together until I don't even think they they're legally separated like no they're not so I just I had just have a feeling like any of this stuff is just put out their from their Camp to kind of get us to like you know root for her um but I just it's hard now I saw over the weekend that I don't know did you repost this I don't remember but they're they might be rebooting Vanderpump rule kill me okay yes I'm hearing not interested not interested yep I don't know if sometimes like I swear there are plants that are out there that like do these like almost like circulate these things to get like the temperature and I'm like okay I yeah little birdie told me that um oh actually I think it has a lot to do with the rumors from the James Kennedy like I think TMZ stopped him and they were like hey any word on when you guys are going to start filming and he pretty much was like okay they've they've called or we've been speaking but like there's been no movement like almost like there's been like interviews happening because that's what producers will do like when they're getting ready to start filming they'll reach out and be like what's going on in your life right now like they kind of are just like tell me where we could you know maybe pick up or like what kind of things are you going to be bringing to the camera and it made it seem like they have been asked a lot all of the cast members have been asked a lot about what's going on and who they would be willing to film with Etc and it's just like not looking good so then now they're exploring other cast members and other routes because they keep going dipping back into the VPR and it seems like nobody's like either wanting to ready to or like willing to move on from last season yet so they're like given no other choice but to start looking to recast and now I noticed like they're posting pictures of people and C newcast members and I don't know there just things flying around but here's the thing they already tried to reboot it with Dana and Max and whoever of it all okay it didn't work everybody was racist and got fired second of all the I oh my God I cancel the show oh my God cancel it I think it's on pause keep it on pause and definitely dude if I have to hear one more thing about [ __ ] Ariana and Scandal I'm gonna kill myself that I honestly I think you said you're a fan I saw something that you posted I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] literally everyone cheats I don't care and it's not that I'm condoning it but it's like literally who made you like the [ __ ] um I don't know like spokesperson of like cheating it's just and why are you getting I I just I'm happy for her getting all of these deals like 100% she should have left his ass years ago and um he is a worm with a mustache like truly looks like a worm and like his hair styles are crazy and like he's weird but like I just I don't like like you're she's dating somebody else like literally like move the [ __ ] on if you don't care like which I know to say that you don't care after being with 10 10 years with somebody no matter how it ended that's a lot to unraavel you know what I mean just like uncouple okay that's like a lot that's like almost your whole that's like your early 20s to mid-30s okay that's like a really significant chunk of your life so I'm not saying don't care about the relationship but it's like or like oh you should move on immediately I understand it's like a death I understand all these things but like to constantly just cancel Lisa because she like owns a business with Tom sand ofal and like I just it's like too far baby you were on Dancing With the Stars you're Roxy heart you're love Island you're all the you're your big um commercial your batteries commercial you're who literally gives a [ __ ] you're literally dating somebody else don't care move on yeah I think that she like okay so this is my thing with Ariana yes I'm big I'm a big fan and I don't want to hear and I don't want to hear this not you not you but like I don't want to hear this again next season I don't think that we should do another cast I think it should just be a new [ __ ] show yeah you know what I mean like just do a different show something similar or other I don't know and uh villa villa uh Vanderpump Villa didn't really work either okay let's I'mma let you no I agre I'm glad I'm actually glad like I said this is like a perfect example of when I was like I knew there would be something we disagree about but this is important like I agree I get the fatigue I get it if I didn't like her I would literally be so [ __ ] sick of her she is everywhere she's gotten every opportunity and you are right I think the part that is so annoying is that she is so far removed from it so for her to still be capitalizing on it does be like what is going on here but I don't think that's her fault like I think her phone rings and all she does is pick it up and like I'm am I not gonna answer if BC or Broadways calling like I'm no absolutely I'm actually team capitalized on it it's the you not wanting to film it's the you not talking to Sheena and the gag is she doesn't want to talk to Sheena because she talks to sand ball [ __ ] are you not looking at the confessionals like I would not talk to Sheena for way more reasons other than her [ __ ] talking to santal I think that's the least of our worries right now like yeah you know it's her not want only wanting to film with Katie who sure I like but like is boring as [ __ ] and has always been a sub character on Von pump rules like it's always been Christen stasy and Katie like Katie doesn't really bring anything and the fact that they have basically fired and watered down all of these strong personalities to like the be cast and like not like it shows you know like Sheena 10 years later is still trying to be the main character babe you're not hate Sheena sorry don't like her I don't he is a strong word too like I just she's annoying not bad girl yeah like okay like you know we just I just and yeah she's OG and I I've never liked Sheena and I hate when people are like I'm so at reading people and Oh They'll they'll grow in you no babe never will never will she has not changed or evolved in one% of her personality she is literally still like I think a 20 whatever eighty old girl that she was probably younger when they start filming dating Eddie um she St TV sometimes they're like you are the age that you are like when you get made you just like stay there kind of like like child stars like Justin Bieber and like you know it's like they kind of just get like stunted and I think that is what happened to some of this Vander pump rules crew like they were just so glorified and rewarded for being like messy 20 year olds that now they're all in their 30s jackon is in his 40s sandal is in his 40s I think Schwarz now is 40 so like it's time to see some Evolution and you're right I think that last season they were way too eager to get cameras up right away and Ariana wasn't ready to film things were just too fresh so now we waited like so much time I imagine if she even comes back that she will not have the same feelings where she's like so bothered um and like refusing to do things I think she heard the cries but I also like don't know if I see a world with her coming back so but also it's like with like I'm sorry but without Scandal there wouldn't have been last season like there was nothing else to discuss no like you need and that's sad like you guys are so [ __ ] boring you have nothing else to talk about there's nothing else going on in your lives like if this was OG cast yes at the end of the day if this was Jack stucy Katie Kristen Tom Schwarz and Tom sanal with Ariana this would have been three episodes Max no way there's no way this would have not lasted two almost three [ __ ] Seasons shoved down our throat the gag is her brother is now engaged to somebody named Rachel and and Karma could not be more ironic for me like now you have to have a sister-in-law named Rachel the irony is not lost on me I'm not saying she deserves that I'm just saying that's crazy it is it is wild no it's the whole situation is crazy I'm interested to see what happens um I'll watch I'll be watching I will even if it's bad I'm watching I you know I said that last year but I probably won't now I didn't watch the Rachel of it all like I took a h i don't think I watched season 10 um because it like got really boring and then I was like oh okay and then I picked it back up with Scandal which God I honestly shouldn't have done but whatever um so I don't know we'll see I'm on the fence there okay I want to move on really quick to Wes Wilson a vaner of my God Wes Wilson of summerhouse he has a new dating show I think coming on YouTube complex.com I have no idea something like that yeah YouTube I was able to watch the first episode um I don't know what it was I'm like the perfect demographic for this when they're like who the [ __ ] would watch this it's me hello hi it's me like I ran to youtube.com like I watched it's only 11 minutes long so these little shorts that they're filming um are just little like Snippets and I I enjoyed it I don't know I'm embarrassed no I mean don't be I haven't watched it yet but I think it's crazy that um I don't know am I like a little bit like dare I say proud of him for capitalizing on this summer house like my my my and I'm not saying proud let me let me explain what I hate now in 2024 is when people like come on for like you know Housewives or Bravo shows or whatever and they don't have their business plan together they don't have their [ __ ] together and honestly kudos to Wes Wilson for having a goal in mind and really capitalizing on this I'm not saying that what he did to Siera was wrong but I also think she was like a bit harsh on it and it's like used him for light my opinion yeah and it's like okay you weren't even like kissing him you really thought he wasn't going to [ __ ] anybody else like I just you guys were casually dating like and I understand there's great area there and um I've kind of Forgotten you know like whatever of it all and I guess like he introduced her to his parents and I mean I do understand like if I'm introducing you to like my mom it doesn't mean jack [ __ ] because her opinion doesn't mean anything to me but like you know maybe like he has like a close relationship with his parents that are like more like friends versus like it's not like that whereas like her you know it's like I'm only bringing home my husband to my par okay whatever then have that conversation I don't think you should hold him to the fire or like maybe you should have taken the leap of faith and stood on business and been like I want X Y and Z yes or no because how are you gonna like now if he flat out lied to her which I don't think that he did they just never had clear conversations from what I remember and that's they're both at fault for that you guys didn't stand on business and say I want XY and Z okay West I'm I'm looking for XY and Z this is you know I want a relationship I'm not going to hook up with somebody with you know blah blah blah blah blah and I understand that she felt kind of used in that situation I think we've all been there we can all empathize in that but at the same time why should he be so punished yes I agree they went way too hard on him and the reunion I've even seen interviews with Paige being like I totally regret like grilling him because she thought what was going to be like uh I'm just gonna like she doesn't think about the audience which is why she's a good reality star she is kind of just authentically doing things yes so I think she was really sticking up for her friend in a moment almost like they were just like out to dinner and not thinking about the fact that all of these people now are going to come for them with his with their pitchforks so I think she has a little bit of regret about like firing everybody up about it because again it wasn't that serious like they weren't that serious so it was that plus again with like going back to the Sierra of it all too like she she I think you know she's done this with a couple of these guys on these shows now where it's like okay I'm gonna choose them I'm I'm going to be like the one that pursues them and like kind of like goes for it with Austin and with you know with West and being like okay I'm going to do it but then when it's not reciprocated it's like they're the devil and it's like that's okay but like she obviously cannot handle rejection which is why I she puts herself out there very much and I think that it's just a combination of like okay yes she was totally you know they didn't communicate well I don't want to take away from her that like she probably had real feelings in there somewhere I'm not saying she didn't really like him but I think that it just got played up so much because everybody was kind of calling a while for her for like do we even need Sierra like she's not bringing anything to the show like after so many seasons they are going to get rid of you and everybody has this fourth wall kind of idea in the back of their heads like I need to be in the mix and right I think it was just like there were probably some real feelings in there but I think it was played up for the show a little bit and I think West now like when they you know he part of his storyline was him getting a job outside of the show and like I posted that even to my Instagram last week I was like you know what love him or hate him like you got to give Wes some some props because he didn't just Coast on his summerhouse success he really got a real corporate paycheck job outside of the show that he seems is also okay with him being on summerhouse which a lot of the other cast jobs or company like were not okay with it like Paige and Hannah got fired from bches um due to summerhouse because it was like about to Air and they were like no um You Know Carl don't even get me started on Carl with all of this it's a great example it's like he didn't get a job outside of the show and a lot of people were pissed at him like West is learning from Carl's mistakes he got a job outside of the show he's making some he's not just being a summerhouse [ __ ] boy like he is trying to have a career you know and I I appreciate that about him so yeah I I watched the show I I gave him the view and I I haven't shared or you know commented yet but I'm gonna try to support at least well and then are you close with the Summer House cast because I know that you go to like some of their events or do you just like what's that about how do yes how can you bring a plus one I know it is crazy like again I think it all goes back into almost like dating like if you just set your mind to like some of these crazy things that you're like I don't care what it's going to take I'm going to like get myself there I I'm going to you know just go for it so I kind of look at it like that like okay I know that there's a way I know that there is a path to get in there somewhere so like it is about finding it and sometimes it's just the magic of New York City like meeting the right people being in the right place at the right time and I had went to um like a Housewives viewing party a little over a year ago that I met some other content creators and stuff and they knew knew somebody that knew somebody and um one of the girls that I'm friends with that that I'm a really good mutual friend of with with Danielle and um her and Danielle are close and they do a lot of things together and so I think um that was really like my Gateway into kind of like knowing some of the inside things about like events that were happening and I haven't made it to the summer house yet I haven't actually like to go I think heard that you have to like an NDA and like get rid of your phone I'm totally okay with that like yeah the events that I've been to have all and stuff that was like being filmed in the city and I was able to find out like where they were filming and whatnot and I had to sign an NDA and hopefully I'll be like in the background of some scenes that were filmed over the summer um and when I was in mon talk over the weekend I um was with my friend that's mutual friends with Danielle and they were texting was like yeah come here so I actually did go to meet up um with Danielle and was having to drink with her for a little while and it's it's fun being with her now because she's technically not on this next season but I know she's been hanging out and like filming a little bit so I I heard some some rumors and some Rumblings about some potential fights and stuff going on inside of the house you know maybe Lindsay and Paige um are still not in a great place maybe again some of the Sierra and West awkwardness obviously Lindsay and Carl aren't necessarily on like the best of terms yet still so there is still going to be a lot going on in this next season I'm excited but I am praying I mean they're not done filming for the year yet they usually wrap up after Labor Day and like I've been inching May way closer and closer like praying somehow I get out there before the end of this season I would love my God please keep used we'll see we'll see but it's still good to like kind of have some Insider tips and it sounds like it's going to be a good season totally well also I know when you you said on like one of the um recent episodes that you did that like Daniel is really messy I where where babe maybe this last season but she's been on there for like five seasons and I've barely noticed really see I don't know I think she always to a substantial like deliverer of rumors deliverer of like a Bone Collector if you will really I think even going back to um times when she was like kind of hooking up with Carl a little bit when him and Lindsay still kind of had a thing going on you know or even just her like she is so the same person off camera as she is on camera like even when I was with her like seeing her at the bar this weekend like she's running around she's seen somebody she's going running up to them to say hi she like knows the bartenders she's she is just like in the in the mix and like I see her like just constantly like talking and being like okay this person told me this and then now I'm going over to this other and I'm telling them what I just heard over there and like I see her doing that in real life so I think on the show she's like behind the scenes okay I hear what okay now that's making more sense because I'm also thinking maybe there's just stronger personalities on the show or maybe like fan favorites and they get more screen time than others but really maybe she's like the Matchmaker behind um closed doors and is really like curating and producing like all of these conversations and stuff but at the same time um I just think it's because I don't think she has like a super strong personality like I think she kind of gets like muted and like lost in the shuffle in my opinion um now this last season was kind of crazy with the whole balloon Joe of it all babe he's a balloon guy she is like that though say that's like really hurt in real life but you and your mind are founder and CEO and yet you're hooking up with a man who blows up balloons yeah she she is I think she is actually like an alpha so I think like I see this even with some of my girlfriends where they almost like date down so that they can be the CEO and founder of the relationship and then they've got their man who maybe is not up to far I I just get that she even with her I don't know if you know she had that little fling with like Joe Bradley from the southern hospitality show so he's a lot younger he literally like works at a bar you know in real in reality like she's not dating other CEOs and Founders are you reading me giving like looking in the mirror at the at the moment it's like H H that's okay that's okay that's a that works for you it is even with L it actually doesn't work for me I'm in severe therapy it actually doesn't at all I would like to get out of that narrative yeah I I think I would get along with everybody at the summer house including Danielle except Carl there is nobody who blinks and sends me over the edge more than Carl radkey I Lindsay's nice I would read him for [ __ ] filth and you know what God's still working on me because that's not a nice thing to do and somebody isn't ready to hear but whoever is therapist is he should definitely fire them because they're not being honest with him and having him take accountability I could put together a [ __ ] Montage about Carl 7.0 with the same [ __ ] he says every goddamn season I'm getting a new job I'm Carl 2.0 I'm Carl 3.0 I'm just I'm just uh uh really struggling I'm just and I'm not [ __ ] on anybody's mental health I want to get that clear but he weaponizes mental health and therapy and at the end of the day I still don't think that he's processed his his brother death and that's okay I'm not saying there needs to be a timeline of when you have to process certain things but the fact that you're sitting here trying to overcome and like do things before you're ready and in turn weaponize therapy weaponize Lindsay Who quote has been your best friend for seven years [ __ ] you know who the [ __ ] she was from day one I've never been a Lindsay apologist or like a Lindsay Stan I I will say actually this last season when everybody was hating her I was loving her cuz I was like thank you [ __ ] for not bowing down and making and I know she's older and I know she's like been you know through it so I didn't think that she would like cow down but there is a way when you're walking on eggshells that you're like oh okay like maybe and like being gaset that you're like oh okay maybe um I should apologize or I should be soft no I'm glad she was like [ __ ] I am soft this is this is not the [ __ ] time I've given you eight months to find a job you're 40 years old what are you doing I think that is a very real and honest conversation and I saw myself a lot in her this last season kind of always I don't know and again another fire sign like I don't I just very blunt and very like I don't and the thing about women being harsh like that and I don't even want to use the word harsh because I want to use the word like expressive and like having expectations is you get [ __ ] on for but if it were a man it would be fine but like because she's a woman and supposed to be you know 1950s Trad wife I mean no shade to the TRD women but that's not her personality and that's not mine either I want to be housewife when I want to be housewife and I want to be dancing on a table when I want to dance on table and I want to be a founder and CEO and I want to be a founder and CEO like and I can be all of those things at once when the time comes the hug the oh my God I'm getting so upset my equipment's going the hug in the soft in the kitchen yeah it was a line she's better than I am she is better than I am there's no way I think they were just like she was so detached like disassociated by then yeah that she didn't even like register to her I think like okay I think this is my thing with Lindsay too so I was I tried to stay like neutral which is I do try I do try I think by the end of the season a lot of the other people were feeling like you two like okay we're Team Lindsay because this has just gone on too far and a very Jacks like you know behavior of Carl to constantly every season give the same spel of like I know I wasn't great this season but like next season I'm GNA come back and I'm G to kill it and then we're in next season and it's like okay it's kind of like that Meme that's like 2027 is GNA be my year it's like yes it's like okay but when are we going to get to the point where we can really see this like Evolution and we it's kind of like this theme Like We crave this from these people and we're getting Evolution from Lindsay even though in my opinion it was a little slow like I'm not the biggest Lindsay fan at all times either because I think there it's about delivery I I think that she actually was right but like I didn't like her delivery on a lot of the stuff she would have been able to really like get me if she would have been able to like say things articulately in a way that it didn't come off like complaining because I I don't like when people just complain about things I like when people do things so to me it was almost like this idea of like okay I'm coming to you every time and complaining that you haven't done this yet but like it it was too it was like too much in his court I don't know it was weird it something like wasn't connecting there for me like they clearly just weren't a good match yeah I agree but don't you think she was just at her W's [ __ ] end especially if you're dealing with this all week and the cameras aren't there and then you get to the weekend and you're like [ __ ] now I have to spend the whole goddamn weekend with this guy I think that that is actually the exact reason why I couldn't I couldn't do it the reason why I couldn't really like get fully behind her and like go all in is because she was waiting to have all of these conversations in the house on the weekend on camera when they're living together and they're together all week you know in that little New York City Apartment that is so [ __ ] haunted now like the fact that she the baby nursery she giv birthing this child that's going to be in Carl's old bedroom yeah you need to the [ __ ] out of that yeah that's crazy that's crazy that's crazy I'm hanging up with you and I'm immediately going over there with sage and like knocking on her door like girl you can have this baby in this house so I think that that to me it was like okay if this was a real relationship to you if this is your man you're engaged you are it's not about the show like you're actually going to put the work in off camera and I just got the feeling like she already knew going into the summer like everybody kind of tries to say that Carl was the one that blindsided her and and like knew he was going to break up with her but like drw it out when actually he resigned the lease with her like a month before he broke up with her I don't think he would have done that if he was planning on breaking up with her four weeks later so that to me was been debunked but he the fact that like she just like couldn't do it off camera and they didn't put the work in off camera to make it seem like it was a real relationship and it all kind of gave like PR summerhouse TV relationship to me I wasn't invested enough to choose I thought with the whole thing was kind of like [ __ ] to me sorry I don't know if it was Thunder or a car okay sorry oh we have no no I'm glad like drumming up so many things atmosphere we're so upset that Thunder gods are coming in yes oh my God no I'm with you um um I just couldn't really believe that they were real so I couldn't really get that invested I'm like okay this is just like for the show I was kind of it was giving me like Britney and Jack like are you really getting divorced or is this for the show like I just I'm like okay and then the fact that she really did move on so quickly I mean it it it wasn't giving like heartbroken it was just giving like like replacement and I think that also made me also like I can't feel that bad for her it doesn't like she's even feeling that bad so if we're if we're more invested and we're more worked up than she is then it ain't working like we're we're it ain't working for me so I don't know and I feel like we knew that right like she's not gonna heal like she's just gonna jump to the next guy next guy next guy I do think I did see some growth like I did I see some growth in her communication and just really trying to have those direct conversations with Carl and be in my opinion the softest that she could have been you know I understand that the delivery wasn't there but that's I really think that that was her trying because I could see myself in that situation and I'm like sorry [ __ ] this is the nicest I can be like you know I this is truly the bottom for me and if it's not enough for you then I don't know what to tell you but so I totally hear what you're saying but yeah we knew that she wasn't going to like go to therapy and go on a sabatical and like go to Bali for seven weeks and like at the spiritual Retreat and like really heal and like you know whatever okay like we knew she was going to go to the next guide now I will say at least she upgraded and like found somebody to procreate with that has a real job and money and kind of everything that she's looking for so I don't know I think it kind of goes two ways because like what what is that right and as a psychologist doctor um I you know it's like is it really like when you are at rock bottom and you're like really tired of dating the same guy over and over and you just kind of really just wake up and you're like ew gross and then you just you know when those people just like in two weeks they find the love of their life now I agree I don't know that that's necessarily real but then sometimes those people are together for 30 years so who am I to judge and who who am I to say that it's not real because you found the love of your life on your like second wife or something like that you know what I mean like yes exactly everybody's this guy has a job yes I think we're you know bringing it back to like how we started the show like manifesting what you really want like speaking it into the universe like Lindsay was like I want a man who is successful has money like very specific like I want a rich like that's okay you can like what you can want whatever you want I'm gonna write this you know like that it's okay that she wanted a man that had money there's because she values that that is worth some girls want a guy with sense of humor she doesn't want a guy making her laugh she never once was like Carl you're not making me laugh enough she wanted Carl to work and make money she really really wanted that because she knows she's very hyper aware that to raise a child in New York City you have to have a certain amount of money she doesn't want to leave the city I think she sees herself being a true like NYC social light sty style woman probably even if Bravo n maybe getting some kind of Stacey style spin-off for herself like she I think is going to be a lifelong like she'll probably go into like Mommy influencing like yeah she I think wants that and again there's nothing wrong with that there's Different Strokes for different folks like is it for me no like I don't even know if I want to have kids so for me to think about the fact that she wanted a kid so bad like I honestly don't empathize because I've never wanted something so bad like that like I that that's me either and I I think the older that I get yeah and I think the older that I get and the more therapy that I do I wanted a child really bad when I was a kid teenager even early 20s and then once I started to like really heal and kind of heal my own wounds I was like oh actually I kind of only wanted a kid you and not if I have a kid now but like at the time when I was thinking I was like oh I realized that I only wanted a kid so I could have something that loves me back but you can't like make a child love you back right or you can't like force love right so now I feel like I really like my life I don't and it is so expensive I live in Houston apparently it's like one of the cheapest cities in the [ __ ] like metropolit like one of the largest cities and it's like fairly inexpensive babe we're out here struggling too because the cost of living like it is the cost of living is higher than whatever okay it's not adding up but I don't want to be here forever I would love to live in New York and I would love to cuz I've done the LA thing if I'm going to move back to California it's going to be NorCal or SoCal and I'm talking Orange County or [ __ ] um Santa Barbara or uh mono or like somewhere like that not even San Francisco because I'm not I'm not that artsy surprisingly but anyways something like that okay like you need [ __ ] money I want to shop at Whole Foods I have it on my vision board I just want to be able to afford my bills eat good go to yoga like Buy dog you know [ __ ] and do fun stuff travel the world I don't need to do first class but you know okay just in my life in my in my head that's simple now if I want a kid and I do choose to have kids I want to put it out there like it is truly a choice and I I think that's also so great because like I would know that I'm I'm actually choosing that child to bring into the world unselfishly um from my own selfish needs for somebody to love me like I'm going to accept that child for what they are and have a nature versus nurture type of relationship and just really try to you know raise the child great I'm not really in a rush I don't want to freeze my eggs I don't want to do it if it happens happen y I just you know and um I think that's like really healing and yeah I can't empathize with her wanting something so bad but I think it also stems from her having a broken family her mom dying right or or divorcing I don't remember and yeah her mom and her have been estranged like since the first season of the show right and um maybe that's on her journey and her generational whatever to kind of heal through another being and I think that's great and she's having a girl I really thought she was going to have a boy I was too she gives boy mom energy but I think the universe yeah has crazy way of like giving you what you need and I think like you said like it is possibly an opportunity for her to real heal this generational trauma like she's really going to get this opportunity to raise this little girl and hopefully be the best mom ever and do do the opposite to her all the things that her mom did to her and you know I hope I hope it ends you know it ends with us like I hope it ends with Lindsay like I hope that cycle does end I you know I'm always going to have a little bit of just like nervies for her I hope that isn't because you know in a perfect world generational trauma just ends when you have a kid it's going to take a lot of work for her to not continue the the generation to continue into the next girl hopefully she doesn't just you know continue the cycle and I hope to see an engagement from this man I mean we we hear a lot about the baby but we don't know a lot about him and I actually for some reason I I don't know until I see them getting married I don't even know if like they're going to be together I mean if she's going to a single mom raising this child I mean I doesn't I don't think they live to I mean I don't know we don't know yet so yeah I don't know a lot of unanswered questions about that but of course I want the best for her I want the best yeah and hopefully we'll get to see a play out on summer house if not obviously I don't think this season but maybe in Seasons to come or like you said their spin-off or something like that I think that would be great um I know he's like a working man he doesn't really like to be in the spotlight so I tottally respect that as well but yeah I I'm excited to see what comes but okay well Amanda thank you so much for coming on the show was quite a long episode but I'm so excited um we are going to do a TW first so she's on today and then I'm we're gonna film hers right after this so you guys go um sub sorry I st hold on you guys go subscribe to bellat talk TV anywhere you get Podcast and on YouTube so you can watch our episode next and it'll be linked in the show notes Amanda where can everybody follow you yes be sure to follow me Instagram Tik Tok threads all the things at bellat Talks TV and my YouTube too um been really getting into the video it's 2024 so make sure you go rate review subscribe all the things yeah it's tough I saw you just got on Tik Tok the other day I literally just made my first Tik Tok I'm doing my best to keep up with with the times it's like resisted for so long but I have got to use it because it is a whole new like World on there world yeah it's it's tough keeping up but we're doing our best as we can these geriatric Millennials truly we really are thank you guys so much for watching you know what to do please read subscribe Jesus Christ 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