ANTHONY EDWARDS CLAPS BACK AT OLD SCHOOL NBA PLAYERS & THEY HATING ON JOSH ALLEN | S5 EP2

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I don't think anybody had skill back then Michael Jordan was the only one who really had skill so that's why they were shocked when seeing Kobe but now everybody has skill so Magic Johnson was asked about what Anthony Edwards had to say and he responded I don't never respond to a guy that's never won a championship so before we get specifically into ant-man's comments how do you guys feel about Magic's response M verse oh man I I think what magic said came came out of a place that probably magic felt offended as he should you know person of magic status to say that he didn't have skill being the first 68 69 point guard is is like just goes back to what young kids do these days they just blurt out things just for the moment they do no research and then they want everybody to feel sorry for them when they put their foot in their mouth this is this is crazy like to say that there was no skill back there I don't know what game he was watching he couldn't saw Kevin Johnson that Phoenix I mean people that was really really talented um ear the Pearl I mean just and these guys are not in my day but I remember these guys cuz I'm a student of the game he he goes another time Ant-Man we love you but you just need to play basketball some people just need to play basketball and not say certain things without without somebody there to say yo a man chill out cuz he's a wonderful kid um great phenomenal basketball player but these statements are starting to stack up you know I think he kind of figured it out what's clickbait gonna be oh you think he trolling yeah he trolling he he know what [ __ ] going to click get fir about this yeah what's [ __ ] going to be what [ __ ] reaction going to be and I'm not saying to a certain extent he don't really believe what he's saying but he like yeah this going to go viral right here because he's young and you I think about this I seen I actually seen them ask kids let me ask stat this okay you know how to tell Tom on to watch like that yes cuz you got good parents kids your age don't know how to tell Tom when they did something with a with a college team and they had the clock and ask the kids what time is to say and they didn't know how to tell Tom what clocks with hands you know what I'm saying and and and they just don't be know you know a lot of people say yo y'all [ __ ] from the 1900s be [Laughter] bugging my little cousin sound like my son he said that was last Millennial yeah yeah exactly [ __ ] yall [ __ ] from the 1900s be Wilding B I was like yo that's crazy that's wow but as far as it man I think he know was going to get a reaction out of people I think he does a lot of stuff to hypee himself up not this particular situation but as far as um when when the season was going on last year he'll say yeah we sent KD home I'm the you know we didn't really get to go over the Olympics because we wasn't working during the Olympics before the Olympics started we had talked about some comments that he said when he was talking about I'm the go-to person I'm the one that that they need to figure out how to play with me and during the Olympics we seeing how Steph Curry and LeBron James evolved and gave him the flowers as it was going on cuz they asked him one game when LeBron like took over they was like what did y'all think he's like LeBron James LeBron James you know he turned back into a fan and not the superstar that he is um so as far as these comments are concerned look what I feel about not just him is that every generation needs to realize you see the people before you and you want to do stuff better than what they did so elevates the game yeah you sit there you don't get Kyrie Irving dribbling the way he's dribbling if you don't see Alan ion and Isaiah Thomas and like you said makes Kevin Johnson yeah doing the things they did so now you say what else can I add to that yeah to where uh Tim Hardway may have the crazy crossover maybe I want to throw about you get these people Elevate the game and the people that you see now you take bits and pieces from it and make it into your own thing but as far as disrespectful is past disrespectful a lot of people called him out for it even Paul George say something about it I don't know if you follow I I follow big Isaiah uh page he put He put some [ __ ] up after that he put some [ __ ] up after that I felt it was towards Ant Man but he didn't say his name he's dribbling with two fingers sitting on his sitting on his ass PA at the allstar game they trying to rip him he's sitting down throwing it through his legs behind his back this is on Isaiah Thomas uh page the one who used to play for the Detroit Pistons in the ' 80s the 90s I think that was a sub towards him but as far as anman I think he knows what he's doing and uh we're talking about it but what if he means it what if he means what he says well then all the statements like Magic Johnson and the people that they saying they they they have a right to say what they're saying that's how I feel about it because if he he really means it that means he's not a student of the game and some people may not be students of the game a lot lot of people I'm not say a lot of people because I don't know the number but you have people who say look I ain't here to do all that I'm here to play right now yeah and not study what happened before and know my history and all that other [ __ ] that [ __ ] be trying to get [ __ ] to do look then my I'm I'm about the present I don't care about the past and if that's his attitude then that's his attitude look Michael Jordan is great as a phenomenal basketball player he was and and you know he's he's my number one all time he's still very relevant because of his sneakers you know regardless and his apparel and not just apparel he's signing people to his company so he stays relevant to where some people may not have that business acement that he has and not just the business acement that he has uh you got people who may may be good at business but they're not out there like that you may not see them like Vinnie Johnson the microwave a lot of people don't even know who I'm talking about when I say that name but he has a very successful care after basketball Jamal Mashburn who's from Harlem uh one of my personal friends and somebody I grew up watching who played in the NBA 12 13 years a phenomenal College uh athlete probably made more money after he got out the NBA than playing in the NBA and he was a he was a good ass NBA player okay and then I'm I'm just gonna say I'm not surprised by ant-man's comments but I think that there's a way to go about it because being the younger younger generation being jenz myself I can't discredit the people that were before me you know like it comes to a point where like I know you're saying not everybody's a student of the game but he is a product of the game like he has a favorite player like he talks about it all the time you're emulating people who were great before you I mean it's even like the same way in music if I tell you that like right now like my favorite artist is ice spice or my favorite artist is sexy red y'all going to be like but y'all don't know about so and so y'all don't know about this and that's okay to recognize without being disrespectful cuz I think it came across the wrong way when you have a lot of great supporting when you're craft and then for you to kind of discredit everybody except Jordan it's like okay so what about us so that kind of falls into more NBA players that had more to say so Kevin Garnett basically was explaining his viewpoint on what he had to say and he said if I'm being honest bro I don't think anybody in this generation could have played 20 years ago and this is to everybody in our league Tatum he said 20 years ago you couldn't get a triple step back we had efficiency back in the day and it was so hard it was too physical and guess what the league had to come off of for the flow of movement to be able to have scoring go up which is what we like to sit here and watch so like hearing what Kevin Garnett had to say and even Paul Pierce had comments as well what else do you guys think about what Ant-Man had to say and then do you guys think that these reactions are okay I think all of the comments are are merited especially with what he said because he just picked one person out of generations right so he's probably looking at the athleticism and things like that but I don't even think you could have said that back in the days cuz there was a bunch of high flying people and when you say only Jordan so did he not see Scotty Pippen did he not see these people that were right there with with Jordan um playing on the team alongside of Jordan and I I know magic man I know magic is a is a strong competitor he took that probably very personal he made the statement like you said earlier he only he said I don't know if he ever won a championship he did win a championship down in Atlanta but he's yet the win one in the NBA though he just now won the goal but that wasn't because of him so could they say the same thing about him look I said what I said at is it's just about being if you're going to study the game or you're not going to study the game it's not really a bunch else to say for me you going to study it or you not cuz if he did mean what he said that means he's just really not student of the game his favorite player he says all the time is Kevin Durant and only person you really bringing up before that is Michael Jordan now talking about Isaiah Thomas Larry Bird James Worthy Kareem Abdul Jabar wi Chamberlain Bill Russell it's it's a list of people we not a lot of times people don't even bring up Abdul R which was Chris Jackson he didn't even get a feier shakee in the NBA and he was ridiculous at a at Denver so some people don't know and they and some people just don't want to know okay and then last question regarding this topic so basically at the end of his quote he said but now everybody has skill do you guys feel like these younger players nowadays everybody has skill or do you disagree with that statement can they dribble Paws with three balls yeah will we dribbling with three balls wow wow season five first one of season five baby I wouldn't have said nothing if you ain't set it off early I wouldn't let it go I said pause though you did not you did not you did not play the tape back play the tape back you don't bet my bad go but you know when they say skill do they have more more like pause tricks yeah but you know do they have um bigger S no do they are they willing to go further no pause so I I think it's even I think the talent and the heart and the drive kind of weighs um balance out it's a good question because I wouldn't say that they have more skill I think it's a lot of things that you could do in the NBA now that you couldn't do before that that size two side step jump shot or the step back [ __ ] they wasn't you wouldn't be able they they call that travel all day they wouldn't let you do the St the two step side the [ __ ] James hard is started a lot of [ __ ] you wouldn't do but what I will say is this that they practiced things that back in the days I don't think NBA college high school players in practice like I I'm and I know we always use our s in as an example but imagine murder being in practice and you try to do a rightand layup off jumping off your right foot what the [ __ ] you you would get crucified for that come here come here come here show me what you just show us what you just did why are you practicing that and I think that they practice of like KY I think Kyrie actually started that to me I'm not going to be wrong but shooting off the same leg that you jumping off you tried that [ __ ] before it would be crazy but now that's regular stuff that they practice in game and I think that they're just being more creative to where certain things may not may not may have not flown back then we got to realize as well you're dealing with a player friendly Commissioner Adam Silver David Stern wasn't a player friendly commissioner and a lot of things that and like I said he can't change the rules to the game or whatever but you know we sat there and watched that [ __ ] stop a Chris Paul trade to the Lakers like yeah that was wild yeah you know what I'm saying yeah you that was heartbreaking yeah like I seen him uh Kobe Bryant when the MVP trophy and Kobe was holding that trophy pause like this he said pause can you look pause real quick what I'm G say could you put it put it above your Kobe said like this he said above your head like he was he ran that [ __ ] like a warden you know what I'm saying and I think that they talk Adam Silva has talks with players what they're liking what's happening what's going to help the Florida game Etc because a high-scoring game in the 80s or 90s is maybe one 110 and that would be crazy that would be crazy there'd be games where sometime [ __ ] have 140 points a game with 122 points is like regular you know what I'm saying and that's also because of Stuff Curry evolving the three-point game and having teams shooting 35 40 50 free threes a game sometime and people do want to see points on the board I don't watch baseball because I don't want to see six hours at the end of the game the score is one to zero I I I can't do it like I almost be telling them [ __ ] to bring steroids back so I can see some home runs [ __ ] oh man okay so also on the topic of Ant-Man him and Justin Jefferson are recreating the ICONic Randy Moss and kg Sports Illustrated cover photo that was taken a couple years back what do you guys think of them recreating this concept these are just bad decisions after bad decisions I I really I really love Ant-Man as a basketball player these are bad decisions I mean um just putting yourself in different lights it just adds unwanted pressure you know just like when he does the commercial that's like Jordan it's like why make that commercial um I remember a young artist came up to me and and he said um would you listen to my music I say well I don't want to listen to you sound like me I want to hear your music cuz that's my music where is your music so it's like this same kind of thing when you're looking at some of the things that Ant-Man is doing you're recreating a lot of things but my my concern is that you're going to get lost in this because we're not going to know who you are and when when trouble hits we won't know who you are to be able to stand with you I think it's very important for you to start just carving out your own identity not that you don't have it but in the things you do be more original you you got way more creative um attributes than to do that and I think um before him and Jefferson could put themselves in that ionic place they got to they got to do some more things before they do that that's my that's my view on that matter I don't think this is his idea I think some I don't even think he knows about it if you don't think [ __ ] had skills back in the days I think somebody said yo we should do this you know what I'm saying I don't even think the [ __ ] knew about the commercial they probably showed him like yeah that'd be dope but um it's about who's doing his marketing for his campaigns whether it's uh who who they doing it with like who sponsor in this um I think I'm assuming it's going to be Sports Illustrated again but I'll double check you know yeah Sports Illustrated yeah it's it's like Sports Illustrated y'all get more creative you know what I'm saying that's up to them to be more creative and think of different things and do different and do different stuff like you know and I dig it cuz every generation is different and I'm I'm not talking about sports but it'd be like for me personally when my my little cousins or whoever be like watching the Smurf I'm like that ain't the smurf smurf you know they keep doing the Smurfs they on the new Ghostbusters they do R like you know they keep creep the Superman is the seventh Superman since I've been alive you know what I'm saying it's like what it's going to be new like when X-Men came out was like all right cool a new [ __ ] superhero for TV and movies you know what I'm saying and I think that [ __ ] is lacking create being creative yeah um and not only lacking being creative you have to think about who's eating off this stuff and I'm I'm more Sports Illustrated I'm talking about the movies and TV shows that's getting done over because if the owner of let's just use Ghostbusters for example says let's just we don't want Bill Murray and then want get some young Ghostbusters the original [ __ ] most likely is going to get paid again because if he didn't sell the name of the um movie or still has the rights of the movie n said I'mma eat again it's like for instance I'm arguing with s he asking me if I seen a new Rambo I'm not watching Rocky be Rambo 78 years old man I'm not watching that bro I'm I refus I refuse to watch Rocky B Rambo did I see the new equalizer I love Denzel Washington as an actor I'm not watching him do karate at at 71 years old and all that I'm not doing it I love him as you know a great actor but when [ __ ] start doing karate in they 70 I can't believe the movie so back you feel me you know what I mean I can't I can't [ __ ] with denzo being The Equalizer 70 [ __ ] grab [ __ ] pressure point and all you know what I'm saying [ __ ] talking about rbo is Rocky Rocky 19 no I'm not watching it B um so back to Sports Illustrated I dig it I just it was iconic cover but I think y'all could be more creative to let Antman and who is it J Justin Jefferson create their own uh narrative and their own make make their own history yeah and Sports Illustrated if y'all need some creativity look no further than right here you know we me and killer we got the ideas for you guys and I think that's what it's time for everyone to start doing just like you see farel collabing with Louis Vuitton and and different people like that it's time for them to start allowing people that are geniuses especially even your self killer as a marketing yeah likewise murder same thing speaking of Fel these all pair forel L right here man shout to forell man okay so there was an NFL players poll voted on by 103 players and Josh Allen was voted the most overrated QB so I want to clarify from the poll 11 players voted for Josh Allen 10 voted for Tua and 10 voted for Jaylen Herz interesting statline right there but do you guys yeah do you guys Believe Josh Allen is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL who who else was there Tu second was Tua well Tua and Jaylen Herz were tied but I don't think people hold Tua up there pause like where where you would see a Josh Allen right um and and shout out to OJ you know God bless OJ I wish OJ was here my suit is closed OJ that's a all [ __ ] even when you going say what he say that's what's up yeah no but Josh Allen you know Josh Josh is definitely he could be considered but I think I don't think he's the most so overrated I would have put two of before him but um it it's crazy cuz you know if 11 people vote on you you know these are people from other teams so I think he's sitting around looking at it like yo these [ __ ] just hating on me behind my back but in in a way that's what you're supposed to get if you're a good player from other team members they're not supposed to like you if if you're a running back the other team don't like you because you you burn them for a lot of yards and then if you if you looking at a quarterback the same thing we lose every time we play y'all I don't like you so I think he had more hate and some players are just hated more than others and I think he falls into that category because he he doesn't have the personality that all of the other athletes on different teams like um versus um who can I think about like um Chase or or any one of those other guys he he doesn't come across like that so I can see why they definitely put him on a um overr rated list but I got something that would be better than that but right now we're going to go with this Nas is bugging they just hating on that [ __ ] that's all it's about look be totally honest with you man uh sorry I was reading something look it's Patrick Mahomes at the top and Dennis like Joe burrow Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen that's that yeah like yo what what are we talking about and when you that [ __ ] one of them [ __ ] you're gonna get hated on him that come with the territory Josh Allen arm is is PA is is crazy he got a he got a a rocket without he he he has a rocket at any given moment one year that year the king Kansas City went to the um won the Super Bowl a couple years ago they was having a battle buffalo in Kansas City it was a shootout with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen the [ __ ] was amazing I watch it about three four times a year because that last two minutes of the regular um the first 60 Minutes of the game and overtime is just amazing to watch I watch that that highlights about um at least four or five times a year cuz what him and Patrick Mahomes was doing and and it went in overtime and Patrick Mahomes got the ball first and that's why I believe they changed the rule to you have to give the team another chance to score because whoever gets the ball first and scores other team doesn't get a chance and Patrick Mahomes and them scored first to where Josh Allen may have had a chance to come back and do something spectacular well that's how good that game was but come on man the kid arm is crazy he's accurate not only that he runs people over he's a 64 monster he you know when they need a first down and nobody's open he's not the fastest guy in the world but he's almost a quarterback version of Derek Henry you got to drag him pause to bring him down he runs people over look man I'm not going to go crazy about this whole situation when you that [ __ ] they gonna hate on you it's tra Patrick Mahomes and I got Joe burrow Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson bunched in the next group of people he's nice bro all of them you have all of them at number two yeah right now I do right now because listen right now and we'll see this year this is really the Patrick Mahomes era to kind of where like Michael Jordan [ __ ] up [ __ ] championships when they was trying to get them whether it be Reggie Miller whether it be Patrick Amir and Carl Malone Gary pton John Stockton Charles Barkley uh a slew of people missed out on championships that may have got championships when Michael Jordan W play you know we they were lucky enough the Houston Rockets Kareem Abdul Kare kareim um alijan aim alijan Kenny Smith my brother what up Kenny Sam cassan the boys they slipped in their pors and got two championships Michael Jordan was retired um besides that when the 90s hit nobody was winning championships yeah and this may be the Patrick Mahomes era so anybody else until further notice I'm just going with Patrick Mahomes and those other guys are there if I had to put somebody at the top of the list out of those three I'm going to go and I'm and know I know we always have our [ __ ] I'm going to go with Joe barrows cuz that's the only person who beat pack from Mahomes to go to CH to the Super Bowl Josh Allen hasn't been to the Super Bowl uh Lamar Jackson hasn't been to the Super Bowl now we got to understand that football is the ultimate team sport it isn't like basketball where somebody one or two players could get you out of a series or out of a game it's a team sport but as much praise as we give the quarterback that's when we got to give them as much fault because we give them all the praise as well sorry am I hearing you correctly you you're a part of title town now no I'm not part of title to I'm just saying I got to call it like I see it I have a job to do murder all right you know Jason Tatum told me he never seen you up there and that's what he told me told me to tell you that actually I told you that last season before left told me told me that he said I just got you been looking for murder I've been SE okay since we've been here okay T you know so he said yeah I'm new to title T been looking for Mur TR since we've been here so I'm not I'm not going to say I'm jumping on Kansas City bandwagon but you'll be a fool to act like you haven't seen what Patrick Mahomes been doing Patrick Mahomes is the only quarterback I probably ever seen complete passes with his nonthrowing arm Patrick Mahomes completes passes with behind the back passes who's throwing behind the back passes in the [ __ ] NFL I'm talking about since I've ever been watching the year that they lost um to the 49ers in the Super Bowl I believe not the 49ers um who the [ __ ] they lost to I can't I'm so mad bucks huh the Bucks the Bucks Tampa Bay exactly because you know why I'm think you know why I was bugging this now when I said because I knew he lost to Tom Brady but I'm thinking Patriots it was the buck he was he was hurt and he was hitting people in the face pa they just wasn't catching the passes he hitting them in the CH they're not catching the passes that's not on him his job is to deliver the football and they not doing I'm talking about 60 yard passes and he just wasn't getting and they just wasn't catching that kid is nice bro and I know a lot of times people will say Aaron Rodgers what is the best quarterback they ever seen you know not talking about championships or anything else talking about accuracy um get getting his team in position to win even though they always only won one Super Bowl right now I believe at this particular Point even though we have a lot of football to see left from Patrick Mahomes I'm not going to put him past Aaron yet because we haven't seen Aaron play yeah over a year but he's right there if we're talking about best quarterbacks ever we're not talking about most championships we're talking about best backs yeah and then I think we can all agree it is the Patrick Mahomes era without joining title town because we still got our own teams oh my goodness that by saying that to say that you know Josh Allen is overrated to me it just sounds like hating like he is a complete great quarterback he has a good offense he has a good throwing arm he can Rush as well if we're talking about overrated truly I think it's Trevor Lawrence cuz he does have a $275 million contract making one of the most high is paid quarterbacks or what St you hating on him cuz he's from Jacksonville and he's a white boy no first of all he's not from Jacksonville he's a like shout out Jacksonville but like he shouldn't be he shouldn't be getting paid that much shout out to him for you know negotiating that contract and getting it done but he's definitely the most overrated if we're if we're comparing coins to what we see you can't go back to Jacksonville is St I can I'm always good atck good at Jacksonville I'm always good they're not going to be feeling that I'm going to keep it 100 100ed during during the uh vacation you know sometime you go on YouTube and see something and something else pops up and you click on it now you in a rabbit hole and you just start watching the whole y'all want to go back to Jacksonville they bugging down yo them [ __ ] is whing down there I ain't never dis jackonville y'all got it my [ __ ] them [ __ ] is whing down there bro I didn't know it was that crazy what was going on down there man shout out to y'all [ __ ] man yeah shout out to Jacksonville okay so we're going to go to break when we return we will discuss a new NFL record don't go anywhere one heart one love excuse me after last night performance we're going to do this again no not tonight I don't think so and make sure you close the door behind you when I when I tell the [ __ ] up man when I the [ __ ] up I'm Rico [ __ ] strong baby [Applause] I'm back oh my God oh my [Music] God hell no right now okay well now right now now right now [Music] [Music] yeah welcome back now let's get into our Underdog fantasy picks of the day so we know this season kicks off Thursday and the Chiefs will play the Ravens Underdog [Music] fantasy we going to find out what all all that talk about Lamar is about we really going to find out okay how many League MVPs I'm not being funny how many League MVPs does Patrick Mahomes have I don't know I'm not being funny I'm just asking I don't know cuz Lamar got two yeah they both have two okay even late but anyways okay so Lamar Jackson's at 219 and a half passing yards you have him higher lower mace 2019 he's going to get higher than that okay now he might be running they said he lost weight he might be trying trying to get his speed higher but it's not going to matter against us us is crazy that's why I say the same thing so I can't even say nothing yeah I mean that's been my team it ain't like I made this up you know who was the coaching quarterback before Patrick Mahomes and Andy re got there cam exactly exactly this is what I'm this is exactly what I'm talking about as well who was Kelsey dating before um Taylor Swift I see tell them killer didn't know though I was about to say that sorry this is not my the myate what I'm basically trying to say is that doesn't matter but I'm basically trying to say that has nothing to do with [Music] football talking about football okay now you starting that up let's go let's do it let's do it let go listen I'm going go with high I think that Lamar Jackson wants to prove that I think he's going to use his feet a lot but I think he wants to prove that he could quarterback just as good as Patrick Mahomes that has yet to be seen but I think he's going to try and stay in the pocket make some passes just to show his quarterback capability so I'm going to go higher okay Patrick Mahomes is at 19 and a half rushing yards do you have a higher lower cam I'm gonna go lower 19 and a half I mean this Patrick Mahomes he could do whatever he want if he wants to get 20 he can get 20 um but I'm going to go lower pause okay and then Isaiah Pacho is at 62 and a half rushing yards do you have him higher lower mace some is telling me I'm going go lore H how many 62 and a half rushing yards for Pacho I like Pacho I like Pacho a lot um let's go higher man let's start the season right off for peo I [ __ ] with peo man okay and then y'all remember it's no sweat Tuesdays and you've got a token waiting in your lobby so update your app make a qualifying entry and you'll either win or get your money back as bonus cash so make sure to download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too okay so an NFL record has been set with 15 black quarterbacks set to start for week one one what do you guys think of this new record and then do you guys feel like there's been a big shift in the culture of football this is interesting cuz if there was um 14 white quarterbacks will we say oh week one there's going to be 14 white quarterbacks I really don't like this I I really don't like people using black people for for stunts and props is it's almost like the election you see Megan twerking at the election this ain't way you do that at I don't want to start the season off you know in that bag but that's what it's giving me right now I don't want to talk about 15 black quarterbacks it just sound racist are you a colorist um stat no cuz that's a that's how does that even correlate yeah you asking me colorist things I don't know if you're trying to line me up or what cuz you're looking at me cuz you know I'mma say something loaded pause so killer you go ahead and go on this one man I think this is a great thing that 15 black quarterbacks are starting and I think it needs to be said because I think that back in the days they didn't respect black people to think black people were smart enough to play the quarterback position it was a white man's position pause and I think that this it was seriously that they that was like a whole thing that they were saying that black people used to be man like they they don't think that they were smart enough or educated enough because it's supposed to be a thinking person's position that you could play quarterback look think about this and that may be too young to know we had Warren Mo and Randall Cunningham yeah that's outside outside of that that was it then you might start getting the Steve mcneir what about Doug from from Washington yeah he played one year you know what I'm saying he came in on one of them drinks he came in on one of them um when [ __ ] was throwing the strike and all you know I'm saying he came he came on his strike here mother you know what saying so what if what if it's what if we three there's there's three Latino quarterbacks is that going to make the news that it should it should because that was considered a white man's poest position so what if week four is four Chinese quarterback that should make the newses work it should that's that's my opinion like now I'm ant Manning you know no no I dig it I understand where you coming to from too where you like and Trust me I get that too like n always trying to pull a black card but I'm not me personally I'm not going to go for it because just just with this topic cuz I remember I used to be like yo why they I was a football fan before I was a basketball fan when I'm talking about five six years old and I knew Doug cuz you talking about cuz the Redskins used to be my team with Joe thyman and art Monk and John Riggins and it was only black [ __ ] being receivers and linemen and so on and so forth and then Warren Moon was like the diamond in a rough when it came to black people being quarterbacks then you might have get get a Randall ham and then you start getting to Steve MCN and Donovan McNab and Michael Vick comes along and you know what I'm saying so I think this is a great thing um but it's a part of uh just 's moving on as well it's a lot of things that outside of football that just changed you sit there and St probably don't know this NE but it's a show called All in the Family one of the most racist shows you ever could see that [ __ ] would never fly today you know what I'm saying like the [ __ ] they used to call black people [ __ ] almost a little bit the [ __ ] ay bunker and that would fly but I think a lot of things different different a lot of things change and uh I'm happy to see it to be totally honest with you because I think that black people could play that position just as good as any other race yeah and you still stand by what you said which part is it is this a colorist question you feel like the stat line is unnecessary right I need to know are you are you Pro black are you like I'm definitely Pro black you Pro black killer too yep I like that yeah man he said I like that okay so out of the quarterbacks I'll just name a couple we got jacobe brassette Jaden Daniels Jaylen Herz Lamar Jackson K Murray CJ stad deshun Watson Kayla Williams let's goes on we know there's 15 of them who are you most excited to watch Caleb Caleb pretty much you know I think he has the the story and um the excitement around his around his name and what he should bring to the football league and I I want to see if that's real I think um Chicago would be the perfect opportunity um he has nothing standing in his way he should he should have a breakout season okay and then just got to ask so you finally look past the nails oh that's why I said his his story is you know different but I think he has the most the most upside PA on see this is what I'm talking about I just love it up here like his nails I forgot about the nails and the [ __ ] crying with his dog and all that but you know he did go to USC so shout out to USC that was a good one St yes that you trolling now you now you Antman you know shout out to my boy Ant-Man uh the person I want to see the most is probably CJ Stout uh he had a really good season last season uh let's see if he's going to capitalize off of this because I think they got him ranked as like top five top 10 quarterbacks already um and one season he's already at that particular uh top what what's his ranking for this season was it top because whatever it was I'm like top 10 yeah okay top 10 he definitely got to live up to what he did last season yeah so I'm that's the person I want to see the most see if it was a one-year thing to see if he definitely GNA be one of them [ __ ] moving forward cuz that's the one thing I forgot to tell you yesterday Michael Irving and I'll see you later this week and I don't even think the Cowboys is the best team in Texas let alone and let alone anything else so let's Dallas is not even the best team in the state of Texas Michael Irving and we'll discuss that definitely not the best team in Texas yeah so we'll discuss that when you get back up here homeboy but um that's who I definitely want to see is um CJ Stout to see if he lives up to the expectations of the phenomenal season that he had last year yeah and then just to clarify for the viewers when I say top 10 I'm talking about top 10 quarterbacks not the top 100 NFL list cuz I know people are going to be like like I'm not saying he's a top 10 player overall but out of the quarterbacks he is ranked top 10 okay moving along so 49ers first round pick Ricky puraw was shot during an attempted robbery in San Fran the 23-year-old rookie was walking around in the afternoon when a 17-year-old armed with a gun tried to Rob him so the teen who actually came at Ricky and that was involved in the scuffle got shot in the mix so basically the story is saying that Ricky was able to grab the gun and shoot him back this was just after he recovered from a shoulder injury allowing him to finally be able to practice with the team again after being drafted earlier this year and then the update right now he is still recovering but he was released from the hospital after hearing the story in the news obviously Ricky we hope you have a speedy recovery but what was you guys' opinion on the incident as a whole that's that's weird that's that's defin definitely sad too um when you're when you're a rookie you're looking forward to having a phenomenal career and for things to start like this I mean after you've lived a little you just know these are like bad signs you know um I totally pray and hope that his he have a speedy recovery and also a phenomenal career but things like this you got to stay totally away from because you don't have that kind of time and you don't want to be playing with your life wherever you were and I know things can happen anywhere but you got to watch your surroundings you got to make sure that you you know living in a way that probably can give you the best outcome and I'm not here to say you know anything like judgmental of anything like that but just watch your surroundings cuz this is one you don't need two yeah man uh you got to be careful sometimes uh just when and and he's young that's what's sad about it is that you know same thing we was kind of talking about before the show me and ma was talking about we did a lot of things at a young age and you know for us well I ain't going to speak for mace for me like my fun is like going to Walmart when nobody's there and play football while I'm shopping and [ __ ] with whoever I happen to be with like that's my funny yeah cuz you been everywhere yeah we yeah we did everything you know what I'm saying and and when you're young you want to experience a lot of stuff now sounds like he was just out and about doing what he was doing now I don't know if this kid who shot him knew who he was and tried to Rob him I don't know if he had jewelry on you know we don't know we don't know if he's gang affiliated yeah I don't I have no idea but the whole he's not you know yeah I don't know but he you know young people like to wear lot I'm old and I like to wear jewelry we don't know if he had a chain or watch somebody might be like it's homeboy from the 49ers who knows but at the end of the day uh May said a good thing try your best to watch your surroundings because you're going to be out there as people who know who you are and um they want what you got especially jealous people they want what you got cuz they can't get it and sometime they try to make a name off of your name I wish you well I hope you a speedy I wish you a speedy recovery and you get back out there soon and most importantly I hope you have insurance that's the most important thing to be totally honest with you because um sounds like you'll be all right I have no idea but even if you're not at least you'll get a couple dollars from it um because it' be sad if you can't finish your football career and this is a lesson to a lot of NFL NBA players make sure you got insurance like when Paul George hurt his leg that time um cracked it he got 90% of his money from the NBA CU he had the right insurance and that really matters and I I would hate to see somebody not get paid because they didn't have insurance or have to write contract I seen Jay will shout out to Jay will he had dm' me about a month and a half ago um just say saying he loves the show murder stat um giving us love but I remember when he got drafted with the Chicago Bills and he's supposed to be the next Michael Jordan because he's a killer Duke so on and so forth but when these teams draft you they know they your habits they know what you like to do so on and so forth and the one thing that was in his contract was that okay we'll give you your money but if you ever get hurt in a motorcycle accident you won't get your money so they knew that he must have had a motorcycle uh Habit the way he likes to ride on him and what's the one thing that happens he ruins his career on a motorcycle so he didn't even get the money that he could have got take heed to some of these stories so you guys no matter what happens still get some coins if it doesn't go right yeah yeah and I and also to add on to what you said those were phenomenal points um when you end up in trouble multiple times teams tend to stay away from you no matter if it was your fault or not so that that was the um thing I was speaking to that you know the second time being in something it's like wait do we really want this around our team and you don't want people to start having that conversation yeah I'm definitely wishing a speedy covery for Ricky I mean he made some really great plays at Florida I was super excited to see how he was going to fit with the 49ers team especially since he literally just came off of injury and it's really unfortunate when the headlines are for something you know happening in the news rather than your plays so hoping that he can get back on the field and show people what he got okay so Steph Curry signed a one-year 62.6 million extension that'll keep him under contract through the 2026 to 20127 season what does this mean for Golden State mace um this is one of those things we know Golden State had to do it I I truly believe if um kaminga turns into an animal pause then this team could have a shot but other than that it's just 62 that they paid just to to keep um Stephen Curry because without that I don't think they have enough Firepower to really compete [Music] py but I'm I'm definitely in favor I'm getting 62 they he should have got 72 it's nobody else to pay on that team until proven differently yeah kaminga that's a great point kaminga is GNA have to uh step up I hope he worked on his skill set this summer because he's very athletic um jumps out the gym uh but he's showing no improvement Ant-Man on his skills Ant-Man skills are not that good he's just very athletic I'm just [ __ ] with you a man because the skills [ __ ] we just talking about you know we good [ __ ] but um he's one of these people that I hope he did that over the summer cuz look let's think about this man even with clay and Clay's going and got buddy Hill there which I still would have wanted Clay over buddy Hill and whoever they signed in the offseason I still would have wanted Clay and they still didn't make the playoffs um so I don't know what Golden State's future is looking like for the season especially if we get a healthy Zion we get a healthy johnar rant uh Sacramento which was phenomenal a d Rosen uh the W is stack the West a stack I I'm not sure about Golden State but I will tell you this like M said you had to pay Steph Curry not only did you have to pay Steph Curry because he's Steph Curry but if you just seen what Steph Curry did in the Olympics it's not even it's not you definitely got to give you got to pay Steph Curry now the [ __ ] just went crazy in the Olympics so you don't even want him you know the comments he's saying he's saying that in front of Steve CER I see them doing an interview and it's like you know Clay left um could you see yourself finishing hearing Golden State stuff and stuff says I would love to finish my career in Golden state but I also want to win while Steve curron right next to him these are the comments that he's trying to make saying if y'all don't do something I will and the I will is I will leave because we thought that we would never see Klay Thompson leave Golden State and he's left and we would think we wouldn't see Steph Curry leave Golden State but let's figure this let's think about this scenario we're talking about he'll be finish in 2027 so whether he'll be 38 years old or 39 years old one of the other we see what LeBron's doing at 39 years old he's still playing at a high level and he may have a a couple years after that if Golden State doesn't get it together I could definitely see him leaving trying to get another championship before he retires okay so it's welld deserved the 62 million great okay and then the last topic before we close so from what we've seen in the WNBA season so far we know this is a big debate for Rookie of the Year who do you guys believe at this point should win the title I'm going to go on wrecky by saying I truly believe it should be a CO MVP thing I mean a co- rookie of the year because I think both of them are having a groundbreaking season I think both of them mean as much to the league in their own particular way when I first started I saw there more kayn Clark But as time goes on um Angel Rea has made me a Believer so I I stand corrected on that I think they should be co- MVPs I mean rookie of the year I like that answer I think that's a great answer and I seen them do Co MVPs at Allstar games before I believe it was something like that this has been done before um can't put my finger on where exactly what it's for but I did see Co MVPs before I seen Co something it was it happened a couple times um and this is a hard Choice that's why I like M's answer with this if I have to pick if I have to pick I'm going with Kaitlin Clark if I if I have to pick I like Ma's answer I would like that would be my first answer but if somebody uh forced me to answer this question I'm going with Caitlyn Clark um simply because Angel Reese is out there she's being a monster and shout out to you baby girl you killing them baby girl with the baby hair let me know if you need f p baby is still available I see you get a fine killer going to pay for pay for I see she I think she messing with homie from Detroit or something from the Pistons I forget homeboy name she's wearing one of his shirts or some [ __ ] I was like Dennis Ren Dennis Rodman yeah that's the the jersey that she was wearing oh okay oh she's wearing Dennis rman but who she supposed to be [ __ ] with from the oh who she's with what I know exactly who you're talking about yeah is yeah yo leave them basketball [ __ ] alone man know I'm saying you know what I'm saying everything ain't got to be basketball related man you know I ain't even going to do it make a long story here make a long story short um I think personally she's a monster and my and what I was thinking about before I even answer this question I was saying you know our Team USA won to go um this season paron me this Olympic uh year but they may not be the best basketball females in the world because they lost in the allstar game yeah to Caitlyn Clark Angel Reese uh Sher Sher Miller kosan and they got smacked by them and they went off to beat went the Olympics that team with um with with Shorty what shorty name St from Vegas out here best player in the world with Asia and the crew and they got smacked by Angel Ree and uh the up shorty from shorty was mixing on them yeah she was going crazy they may not be the best basketball players in the world that team that beat them in the allstar game may be the best team in the world oh like team WNBA versus their team yeah yeah they did get Crist yeah they smacked them but that team that they smacked when they won the Olympics they should come back and play yeah they they should come back and play them again after the season's over and see how that go because y'all aren't the best team in the world the best team in the world as far as I'm concerned it's the team to beat you now I'm not saying y'all not nice but they they didn't just beat y'all they smacked y'all it was crazy now the reason I give this award to Caitlyn Clark over Angel Reese is just because of Ang Reese's shooting percentage uh she has a seriously she she she a lot of times she gets these double double rebounds he had 20 points 20 rebounds but if you look at it it was one play I was watching when she's playing the ases aces against as and the crew and one play she got four rebounds in she missed a shot three times four times in a row she keeps getting her own rebound and that's bringing her shooting percentage down so her rebounds are up but her shooting percentage is down now if her shooting percentage goes up her rebounds may come down um and just purely off that fact but outside of that if I that's only if I had to pick I think mace had a sensational answer if we could give them Co rookie in a year that'll be great because we have to think about this for the last two and a half years and I'm really really going to miss them man I wish the WNBA had something in between um at the end of this season and next season because it's going to be a long offseason of not seeing Angel Reese or Caitlin Clark we have to realize they probably been the spotlight the last two and a half three years because they're playing college basketball and they were going at it back and forth along with South Carolina as well um and it was really really intriguing but this past year we got something to see something special because we got to see them play college basketball not only when the college basketball season was over the NBA WNBA season picked up a month and a half two months right after that so we get to see them play an extended period of time so we've been watching these young ladies play probably since last October uh maybe November into right now so we don't usually get that long of AG that long of a time period with Angel Ree and Caitlyn Clark and both you ladies have done a great job pushing the woman game forward Sensational and it's been a pleasure to watch so whoever wins the award um congratulations we have we'll see what happens but I think M's suggestion is the best suggestion at the moment yeah and then last two things before we close so what you were saying about the Pistons that's interestingly put because she did wear the Rodman Jersey through the tunnel but she's also been wearing a lot of Pistons gear it is rumored she's with somebody from Pistons y'all can do your own research CU we ain't talk about nobody's business first thing second thing co-rookie of the year that was back with Jason kid and Grant Hill in 1995 so it is a thing maybe they'll do something a little different I don't I don't like that I don't like that pisson idea but she's not my daughter but if she was I I don't like that I'm going take what don't you like p y of Cam's books I don't like that what don't you like I don't like that just the dating when you're just a piston oh you know if nigg just playing for chicken and all of that I wouldn't have daughter they know [ __ ] that that that got to win a game or get points to get chicken they're playing that bad I don't want her in that [Laughter] environment so basically what you're saying is when the WNBA season is over and if she is dealing with somebody from the Pistons you don't even want to I don't want that I'm not here for it yeah hey okay no comment from me okay that's all the time that we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is yeah I don't like that you can't be Pistons