this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the french navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gang in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all fail failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international La the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that Court in St BG as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have Tak taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them in to Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laur of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I miss you used the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandunes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempt to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San Junes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon ice lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in Machan the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise that government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the EC thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the old boat that had crossed as as the DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I was quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of EC HR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in the Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been here hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will success iive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need itical will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way said a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the LA government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or our n Li so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their opport into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds theen do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know do lifebo had done dunge nice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French Navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR and the Germans by the way said a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escort shorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will all always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon nice light life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this is you with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the hon member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San Jin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid Your Leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escort I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international La of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way said a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English channnel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just told the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laural the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the botom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the conven ion into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandunes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather could expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're GNA have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pi ful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security Emergen when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way said to plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the EC thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon ice light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or our nli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more CL say drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done done a nice light life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive aggessive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or our nli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their work and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two Mill ion Euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done done a nice light life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted dingy from a couple hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political we successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware of the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the AAL law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore nor the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the Angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put nine lives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sand Junes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the in office of course you aware fact that they were still HED vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after the was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I miss misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandunes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian prime ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just told the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're gonna have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor foring this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just tow the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon ice light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the east HR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that The Gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of CHR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down are two things number one is political will so successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection ction in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or R NL so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know when I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sand jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know do lifeb had done dungeon ice light life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French Navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to re think his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to- face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that is going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political iCal will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light life bird had done they actually took them into Cali all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boat uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would Ed the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sand jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previous L you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word ES escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big TR trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to a two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international La of the see we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis posted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San Jin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the seea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan stand the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the honor M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself self used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandunes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon ice light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're gonna have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeating L from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally is sported boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security Emer mergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in the Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc and until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister but given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in a channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young male but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said the might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know when I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial reward are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the hember from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face tace boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French french navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to do with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief Commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know when I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offsh processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done hug huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that even even and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware of the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel is esed a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly a point inin in a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sand jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law on the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a convers that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angl trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described red uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that Court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sand jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to a two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh for the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to a two things number one is political will successive Australian prime ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe but perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU you and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in a channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation between France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that The Gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in a channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong Connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon ice light life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French Navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the e we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for haror according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up toward towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still hold uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escort thought I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for haror according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sand Jin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with politic will with leaving the AC 18 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken the more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandunes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect a make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon nice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law or the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French Naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this is issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chance of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misuse the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act Accord accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in M dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandunes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather could expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dinging from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San Junes in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon nice light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA Channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor govern one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from overa mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the G had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing my channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECA J so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in the Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than the ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the horable member foring this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boat uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would used the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans were the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid Your Leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but give that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the see we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French Naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migrant and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in the but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escort S I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're g to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laur of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and had handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 15 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French or already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law or the SE we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 18 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in M dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the votes back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laur of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the hember from DOA mentioned mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion the word that got me very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingies but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the princip principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those San jines in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laur of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan stand the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law the see we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in Theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingies but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good opport gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia I there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law on the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer except escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way sent a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word ES escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to a two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 201 15 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law the see we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no long longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the ra National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down out over two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just to the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laur of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're gonna have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is gonna have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the oddd boat that had crossed us as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used us the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same say we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into C all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for according this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to a two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international La of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghan stand the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances is you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member of over mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion the word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in mun and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes out were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony AB but just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international La of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the friend French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to labor electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion of word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I miss used the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the conven vention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingies from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hiding munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just to the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're GNA have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than they ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dunge lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 18 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least 2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boat back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international Laural the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of a legal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the youth of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis posted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in M dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law the see we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan stand the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as The Honorable member from over mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion the word the got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 M line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how sadly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA in into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the engl this Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when I Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in M dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before for you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the friendch we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in sturg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convent into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to 12 M line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're gonna have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than they ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to labor electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma him himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted imag general election ction this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted votes across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion the word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in mag Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in thechannel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you honorable member for Harbor for according this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion the word that got in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what what this comes down to were two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into C all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this is you of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how bad L the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the this Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to were two things number one was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to 12 M line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're gonna have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion the word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence far fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to labors electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma him self used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in M dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted im a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're GNA have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing ing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from over into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted both across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in the Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than the ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dunge lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given theone Mone we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in thechannel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had cross as as the honor member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the Incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir stama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigr just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony abber just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vess and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the lab government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted IM enal election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally is scor Ed boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty beautiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security Emer when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intell Ence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage AG to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be a Invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the Incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that Sak Sama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the perspective legal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than they ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still h vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of with s all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it cruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally is escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a PL back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the in operation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that s starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the respective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than they ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are of far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promised the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacts in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boat fulls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we make get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans were the way say a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted imag general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young male but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yard yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promised the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank the honorable member for Harbor calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from do mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from do over into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than the ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and r than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation but in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the EC CH thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had cross as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Randa might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the Incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy events but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end and Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the lab government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the EC thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an in Invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the Incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir star himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in M dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €22 million EUR the financial rewards are very very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far FL of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wh all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excr appreciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally is escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels uh and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in a general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from do into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorpor operation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that K stama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the PRP Ive illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than the ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way said to a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the lab government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir stara himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective legal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans will always set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive Young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said the might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in a channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple 100 yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the honor member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir stama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the perspective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore process Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon ice light life bird had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in ear 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boat fulls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more inter interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the Financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done donee your nice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from from a couple hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the concern conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you The Honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciate creting the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeating repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally is escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security Emer emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in the Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc and until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from do into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorpor of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sec K starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in mingis but the problem is that the perspective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than they ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards of very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still h uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promised the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and suex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken to today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon life bir had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiand all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way said to plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted imag general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young male but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know when I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir stama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the perspective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would last Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off whand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive Young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple 100 yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this I just promised the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore process procing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boat fulls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 14,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the Financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the concern conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for harb calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the french navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief Commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried off processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the hember from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million Eur the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the echr thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 20120 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing Mach Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French Navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new B chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they red offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pick up on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law on the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECA the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ACR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you The Honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the OD boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young male but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million euros the financial Rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards s of wiand all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plan back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it is impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a national Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir stama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the perspective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsy of vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans will the way he said a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciating the embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive Young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million EUR the financial awards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon light lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law on the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple 100 yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promis the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir stama himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore process in ETC until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know do lifeb had done dungeon I light life Bo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in ear 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boat fulls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 14,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting and note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million EUR the Financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done donee a nice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from from a couple hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans with the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the concern conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the french navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to do deal with this were frankly prettyy pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief demander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried off processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl I so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and if it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million Eur the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the echr the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank Youk you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 20120 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Chanel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French Navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanan in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pick up on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA life boder done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law on the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the e the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or our nli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their work and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two Mill Euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done done a nice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted dingi from a couple hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12m line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French Navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also o believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon lifebo had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards off wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the e CHR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable M from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up TOS 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two 2 million EUR the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course aware the fact that they were still HED uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cali all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from when they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you you honorable member for Harbor for calling this this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French Navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the perspective illegal immigrants just hide in M Junes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class say drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore Pro processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware the fact that they were still held uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon ice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than they ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least €2 million Eur the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware of the fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done done a nice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12mile line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans were the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for har according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low no and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face to face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief Commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried off off shore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still hold uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon I light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple of hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the echr thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for calling this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kenton Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started a feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed as as the h m from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sanin in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million Eur the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they tried offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abbott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pickup on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifebo had done dungeon ice light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in the channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingy from a couple hundred yards of wiant all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECR the Germans by the way set a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the echr we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for according this debate he must find it excruciating embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 20120 that the odd boat that had crossed as as The Honorable member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face Toof face boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing ma Channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French Navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or rnl so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of echr so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their word and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country yet there's more class A drugs being taken today than there ever were before you know a good operative gang working out of those sandins in northern France in a reasonable week of weather can expect to make at least two million euros the financial rewards are very very high so really what this comes down to are two things number one is political will successive Australian Prime Ministers attempted to deal with the problem they all failed they offshore processing Etc until in the end Tony Abott just towed the boats back to Indonesia there was International outrage from the UN the EU and indeed uh from the foreign office of course you aware fact that they were still H uh vessels and if we attempt to do the same we're likely to kill people in our Waters is that what you want to see just a few weeks ago for the first time border Force border Force did an emergency pick up on the other side of the line and rather than bringing the people back to this country as previously you know DOA lifeb had done dungeon light lifeb had done they actually took them into Cal all right so that is the way that we do it yes you're right these are far flimsier vessels but the principle that you take people back to from whence they came is the point that I'm trying to make um and we can do this we can do this under the international law of the sea we can do this I would ask Minister that given the money we've given to the French we no longer accept escorts from the French navy the day after 12 people died in MA channel the day after there was a French naval vessel escorted a dingi from a couple hundred yards of wiand all the way to our 12 Mile Line no more French naval escorts I think is vital so we need political will and the Germans of course are now showing it the Germans will ignore the ECA the Germans by the way s a plane back full of young men to Afghanistan the other week so with political will with leaving the ECR we can solve this and I just promise the labor government one thing this issue caused Great pain to the conservative party and it impacted in the general election this issue of illegal migration and the crime that it leads to which is a conversation that's barely started in this country but a a conversation that in France and Germany is now very big will do massive damage to Labor's electoral chances you're going to have to get tough and I'm afraid your leader is going to have to rethink his position on the ECR thank you thank you very much indeed and I thank the honorable member for Harbor for according this debate he must find it excruciatingly embarrassing how badly the previous government dealt with this issue with my strong connection in Kent and Sussex with the commercial fishing industry the angling trade and indeed the lifeboats I started to feel in early 2020 that the odd boat that had crossed us as the H member from DOA mentioned in 2018 and 19 that something big was about to happen uh that the gangs had realized that your chances of deportation from this country were very low and so I went out repeatedly from DOA into the English Channel filming boats uh meeting face tace boatfuls of the young men that have been described uh in many cases very aggressive young males uh but I also got to the bottom of the use of the word escorts I kept being told that escorts were crossing the channel I wasn't quite sure what they meant to begin with but then I understood it was the French navy that the French navy literally escorted boats across the English Channel and handed them over to border force or R nli so I made a bit of a fuss about the whole thing I said unless something was done huge numbers would come I said there might even be an invasion a word that got me in very big trouble but given that we're pushing up towards 140,000 that have come I don't think I misused the word the efforts of the last government to deal with this were frankly pretty pitiful and Rwanda might have worked in theory but of course in practice it was not going to work all the while we are subject to that court in Strasburg as we saw that evening and more interestingly the incorporation of the convention into British law means that actually British judges will always rule in favor of ECR so we have to face up to that reality I also believe what we're facing is a National Security emergency when Isis boasted in 2015 that they would use the Mediterranean to get their operatives into Europe perhaps the European Union should have taken them more at their work and it was interesting to note that sakir starma himself used the phrase National Security emergency during the general election so he's going to have to act accordingly appointing a new border chief commander yeah we may get some better intelligence fine but you know the French already and we have given them hundreds of millions of pounds the French do stop a lot of dingis from Crossing they put knives in the dingis but the problem is that the prospective illegal immigrants just hide in munes and come back the next day so that isn't going to work and smashing the gangs well I don't know and I've been hearing for the last 30 years we're going to smash smash the the drugs gangs in this country and yet there's more class A drugs being taken today
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Alex, you've been monitoring the seats
and how all that has been unfolding for us.
good morning, tom. yeah, well, it makes it very easy to
monitor when the map behind me here, the bloomberg live tracker is updating in
real time now. 90% of constituencies declared.
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Nick as you uh ended that answer uh i can see on one of my screens s stth prime minister walking across the rose garden he is now there at the leon and uh we will listen in to what he has to say morning and welcome sunshine no rain no wind probably tempting fate but it's really good to see you all here... Read more
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