Former Beauty Queen Accused of Plotting to Kill Husband | Murder in Paradise Plot

From the outside everything seemed amazing former beauty Queen and cheerleader Lindsay scheiber married her college sweetheart Robert scheiber he was a football player at Auburn and came from a family with lots of well. >> Life was good the good looking young couple had 3 boys and lived in a 2.5 million dollar home in Thomasville Georgia, they flew on his family's private jet and had a vacation home in the box Thomas and that's where this story turn bad Lindsay allegedly had an affair with a younger man who lived on the islands and worked at a place called we grab runners ball. Robert found out about it and found for divorce things got nasty and that's where this story. >> Returns really that Lindsey along with her Bahamian boyfriend are accused of soliciting a hit and 2 killed Robert Lindsay and the other 2 men connected to the left. >> Murder plot are out on bond. >> So what does that timeline of events in this case tell us about Robert and Lindsay relationship and what do these body cam videos tell us about Lindsay's state of mind. We'll take a closer look as we investigate the love triangle murder plot in paradise. ♪ >> I've been involved in thanks for being here. Every time I talk about this story, the first question that pops into my mind is what was she thinking. What was the end game in all of this and we're talking about Lindsay and Robert shive or this is a couple college sweethearts and they have the family there they are literally living the American dream. A beautiful home beautiful children. They're good looking. They've got lots of money his family's got a private jet they're going down to the Bahamas like what what what could possibly be wrong here. What could possibly be wrong. Things did go wrong and when we look at that timeline of what happened in this story and in this case and with this couple. It seems clear that this is a case involving. Infidelity and a breaking up part and then the question is once you begin this breaking apart process when you've been that invested for so much of your life and you've got children and money and everything else sometimes things get out of whack and sometimes people do or say things that they wouldn't ordinarily do or say. First let's go through that timeline so we get an understanding for what was happening in the relationship between. Robert. >> On February 18th Lindsay shively one away for a weekend trip without her family on February 20th Robert called 911 afraid Lindsay was setting up the last week of March Lindsay Robert and the kids go to the Bahamas for spring break. On April 5th Robert files for divorce on April 6th Lindsay files for divorce on April 12 Robert calls 911 about a strange package on April 30th Robert his mother and Lindsay called ♪ 911 during a custody exchange. On July 16th Lindsay calls 911 because Robert won't let her on their private jet on July 16th Lindsay allegedly sends the I killed him message to ♪ the men I'm on July 21st Lindsay is arrested. >> I want to bring in our special guest to work through and try to figure out what exactly is going not in this relationship. Joining us host of the hidden killers podcast Tony Bruschi and criminal defense attorney former prosecutor Tim Jansen also with us goes a lot about this case as well, I'm Tony I'm looking at this I get anything wrong here that before all this controversy sort of flares up. This is a great life for everyone a great way for him a great life for her and a great life for the 3 children. >> It really is the it's the it's a perfect life but the wonderful life at least on the surface but like in so many cases that you and me both cover all roads lead in our system and I think that's what's happening here and the thing is the narcissist they're pretty good at cutting off there. Nose to spite their own base. And I think that's what has and here the level of entitlement that she had was absolutely stunning but after 13 years of marriage living the high life I guess it's kind of the normal well for him, but all that being taken away from you just the thought of that because the your own poor choices, it's too much to handle, especially. If you are an artist or of narcissistic tendencies or rather than deal with change like a healthy person, they go to extremes with his rage and the arrogance and they believe that their actions or just. >> Tim what do you think went wrong in this relationship, what was. >> Well, you know you don't and all. >> Fairness you know, I'm a member of the same Country Club as Robert is so I brought bought that home every time I play golf. >> She lived a charmed life she had the children. It's clear if you look at her comments during that video of the House after all this was breaking down and he caught her having an affair. She called the because she couldn't get on the private jet that of his family to fly down and see her lover. The audacity. I think she just believes she could do whatever she wants because she was a mother of the children. And it's crazy the life. He provided the income the family his family had the House. And she was trying to take advantage of it even after. Her affair was uncovered. And then she decides to send this a picture and tells and that the hit man to kill this guy. Destiny is out it's crazy. >> I want to play a 911 call that was made by Robert and he's calling and in. He's really laying out what he believes is happy coming here and there's there's a bunch of things happening including some strange packages that are showing up at his house. Let's take a listen. >> My wife just got back from out of town and. We ran down the road to get into force. She just my cell phone off. Myself and disconnected from calling him a mother's posed as a verizon store because the only way to get back to the release of this. And with the way that he is behaving. Feel like she might try and and called police to try to get me out this is I get there and I wanted to try to us get out in front of it because I'm not a You know anything crazy. I'm just trying to go to my house and the department definitely died in Texas a fun way. >> This is chilling Tony things are so broken in the relationship and we know when people are breaking up. Sometimes accusations fly back and forth sometimes people try to use law enforcement you noticed site as a wages as a shield. But he's very sophisticate it right in his approach to all this but things at this point clearly seem to be broken and he's very suspicious yet we go back to the timeline after all this they still go to the Bahamas for spring break. >> Yeah, I mean that's that's the plan at least in that doesn't actually quite happened the way that they're thinking we saw that video is well with that that 911 call good for him for getting it ahead of this and not just acting on a motion that the scary thing to be realizing these things and putting things together thinking that your loved one. It's capable of having some sort of maniacal lot which this kind of appears like it was like making him paranoid making him wonder is there someone out that's watching us that there's something else that's going on here. To to basically set him did that for for failure at the end of all this. >> You know Tim, this is the other thing I say this a lot that when you go to a courthouse in any town. People always think all the criminal courtrooms, the most dangerous and I always say no no no it's the family law courtrooms of the most dangerous because that's where the emotion takes over everyone is so invested in what is happening and it's a conflict and and and I think you look at this relationship and as the breakup is going is going on it seems like. She kind of loses touch with with real reality in the way she's acting and reacting in the circle. Stan says it's it's almost like she has, she's no longer herself. She's turned into someone else and it might be because of the stress and strain of what's about to happen in this this battle for children this battle for money this. This thing that's going to happen in the courtroom and she knows she's going up against Robert and his family who we know will have and incredibly powerful attorney Zach cetera. >> Yeah, the family has good resources. Her mother-in-law and her playing same tennis league at that club and the friends that I talk said that you know Lindsay was a normal person, and they they were shocked when they found out was happening if you look at the video and the cop show that the House during the spring break trip. Robert looks like a completely fine declined to act like he's a very happy. He was a reasonable he was patient. He was explaining things this video right here. And she just showed her son I have to be the arrogant elitist entitled person and at the end of this you'll see the deputy walks away, and looks to the other deputy and says money. Can you believe it they're fighting over who's going to fly their private jet so she can see your lover. It's just crazy and you're right the most dangerous people of family law cases. My criminal cases, I've got bad people on good behavior. In family law. You've got good people on bad behavior and it's very dangerous. >> That's that's the best way to put it I'm going to steal that and use that from this point forward because that is so incredibly So so Tony when you look at her and where she came from. You know she was a beauty Queen at one point but I don't think she grew up living the life that Robert necessarily did. >> No I don't think he did a either it into her adult life. He was you toward quarter looks the door for a lot of physical. >> Things then maybe not so many things that then has one gets older and life continues on and you're living this kind of charmed life Garner says that you're not quite happy with with that weight that things have have and out and maybe you want something more like I said earlier heading off one's nose to spite their face they're very good at that and and don't even realize the damage that they're getting themselves into and then our shots once there is repercussions for those actions. >> OK our guests will stay with us when we come back who are. >> The baby in defendants. Her co-defendants in the case who are they. >> What are their roles. >> And will they. >> Do so and see what were you guys in the court today. Or is this all just accusations with no. >> Us court tv's match on sit down in the Bahamas tracking down Lindsay's love after a court appearance, everybody's out on bond in this case, but let's go through so you understand who everyone is how they're connected to one another and we begin with Lindsay scheivert I'm 36 years old former pageant Queen named misused in County in 2005 and became a cheerleader at Auburn. Robert scheivert 38 his old son of Allen Chi versus. Who served for decades as a CEO of a 5 billion dollar company his father. He was a long snapper for Auburn football later went on and signed with the Falcons now Lindsay and Robert met 2007. At Auburn in a fitness class 3 sons ages, 1211 in 5 married for 13 years, but Rob filed for divorce in 2 2023 citing an affair. Lindsay with a man named Terrence Bethel he's 28 years old younger, a Bahamian native they met while she was vacationing in Guana Cay a resort Island off the coast Buck o and he was working at grabbers bar and Grill. Turns Bethel is friends with a man named farron Newbold fire and 29 years old he's a father of one. He's an aspiring music producer, the son of a very well respected local politician in the Bahamas. And his day job is as a structural engineer at a power company and one what happens is is turns Bethel Leslie connects shot ever with new bald and texted Newbold kill him with an image of Robert her husband on whatsapp authorities found this during an investigation into a break-in at grabbers bar and Grill bill so someone broke into grabbers and they grabbed Terrence his phone and they found them message between shive Iran Newbold. The kill him message all right, let's bring back in yes still with us Tony Bruschi and Tim Jansen Tim, I'm looking at this case there are 3 defendants in all of this. And behave new law little different, I know for some time they all have the same lawyer I don't understand that exactly. it seems the defense to all this may be all this was just a joke. What do you think that defense yeah. >> Well that's or joke and you know we discussed this before how the same solicitor could be representing all 3. It's not a joke that the penalties for this crime conspiracy to commit murder in Bahamas. You look at 30 years to life. But put together if you put that. >> Timeline together and then you put down the comment and then you put down the actual picture. So yeah, what you have your have have words being given to a 3rd party to commit a crime. And then she adds a picture so he knows who the person is asking to kill. That was done for the rents of the conspiracy to commit murder they've done enough to convict them under Bahamian law now I don't expect them all any of them to flip because they're all related they may have the same lawyer. I think there are going to go down together or they're all going to walk together. >> You know Tony when it when I heard about the defense being it's a joke when you send a joke like that you need the lol you need an OG and you don't send a picture of the person that you want killed. >> No that's not usually how that goes down me there's there's that I just want to kill him and we all of said that before and then there's. Here's the image, here's everything you possibly could need to recognize who this man is and then let's get the hit man involved it was not just a little side conversations letting off some steam. This is getting someone else involved which is obviously where we saw there a new bold get involved as well as the alleged possible hit man had this all come to fruition. >> Now Tim, I understand Lindsay and turns per perhaps having some allegiance and all of this because I think they they still have the hots for one another. Right so I get that part but for new strikes me as a guy fathers politically connected down there in the Bahamas. He's working he's got like real jobs, he's an aspiring music producer, but also works as as other jobs I'm surprised that he doesn't come the one right the one that could that could either flip or say listen, I don't want any part of this was to me these people drag me into this I'm nothing to do with this and kind of throwing under the bus a little bit. At least that's the way out expected to play if this was if this is being tried up here in the States. >> Yeah that's that's a great point they need because he looks like one that would be able to cut the deal with his father being politically Canal did he is really the third-party all he was a conduit he didn't take any action from what it appears. He would be the one that they would want to cut a deal with right to prove, but I think by the Bahamas is such a small island just not heard of for these people to testify against their own now he might testify against Lindsay but he might have a hard time testifying against a fellow, but union friend of his that might be the sticking point we know the trial got can Ken you after everybody wanted to speedy trial and said we're ready to go they got can trick continued to July one on so we'll have to wait and see. >> Yeah at this point no one is in a rush because no one's behind bars, but Tony she. She served some time in a Bahamian jail which you know if you look at it 30 to life that's that's basically your life deserve it. You know those are some good years, you know when yes, she got out if she got out she be perhaps in her 60's or 70's, one. That happens. I mean everything is at stake here. I am I'm still baffled by how this actually your thoughts about her being the American. The Bahamas and they're they're the to that you know are from there. >> I exactly we just said there about that Terrence and Aaron they're from their likely and in my estimation probably going to less you're charged here because if we look at the ring leader in this seems to be Lindsay he's making the request. Deterrence is the one that kind of speculate on it a little bit you know even has that tax that the thing that will wrote this I'm about to come out of retirement for this. He's flying the Baker's Bay and he's thinking about letting me fill in, but he has the kids. That's when the Daily mail. But it's said with that being said they're the ones that are kind of speculating they're the ones who didn't necessarily order anything that was never executed anything. It's kind of just discussion about is what my girlfriend said to me so I'm going to guess that the end of the day. It's not going to be looking very good really seeing probably a little bit better for parents and barren, especially with Barron's political. >> About 30 seconds left here What are you thoughts do you think. Lindsey ends up with a life or does her life end up behind bars in the Bahamas. >> I think these crimes in these foreign countries we're seeing this OK people taken ammunition to the foreign countries are serious about gun laws is serious about outsiders coming in they're committing crimes. Now her family is not Paul first they have money they don't have the money that the shoppers have but I think she's going to end the worse than the other 2 and that's just a matter home rule right and she had the motive she had the motive and she causes she provided the photo. >> I think she's not going to do well. >> Tim Jansen Tony Bruschi always great to have your insight. Thank you both so much when we come back what >> I've been paying any comment for your family back home your boys about Robert any message for Robert. Where are you staying here on his vote on the draft for the problem. >> When do you want to say anything about the allegations I think any message to Robert of the boys. >> Do so and see what were you guys in the court today. Or is this all just accusations with no. >> Matt Johnson unchained down in the Bahamas. Everyone is out on bond. They're free to come and go to the courthouse in the courtroom. Lindsay is allowed to come back to the states as waiting for the trial. And looking at the buildup to everything it happens here happened here and the and the allegations. There were problems they were not a green and these things manifested themselves in to the point where there were disputes about custody and where the children she going who can see them and when they can see them and more than once in these disputes calls were made to law enforce and there is body cam video of what's happening there was one dispute on April 30th involving a Lindsay and Robert's parents which if you really listen to what they're saying you get a much deeper. Understanding for what is happening here. And you may get a better idea of what's going on with Lindsay at this point let's listen. >> My in laws are in the parking lot right there. >> In the white Lexus yet. I've tried to call them this is not turning on the time and have not been able to get hold of them that I was home for was for you all to come meet with me. >> Right now >> And then I get the message that they're dropping it's dropping them with his parents. They have no right. >> So as a witness for May that's why all job at his parents House. I first want to call. >> The whole reason we're here they said that you're following them and that. Said you settle. For sure that's a threat but it we're saying that your fall modestly in that. >> We've got a gun on what is mother last saw them. >> but just middle The years. I don't the market. The other son Saif time. >> OK let's try to get to the bottom of what's going on with Lindsay at this in the case in the story, we'll bring in our experts joining us psychotherapist CEO of life counseling solutions doctor Janey Lacey and also joining us nationally recognized parenting and family relationship expert, she has her doctorate in clinical psychology doctor sue Kornbluth thank you both for being here doctor Jane let me begin with your thoughts about what's going on here with with Lindsay. >> My thoughts are with what's happening with her and Robert right there's a lot of intense emotions that are happening and obviously what we see her response that there's probably been some build up to this moment, not only that the fear but probably even before this that there's probably been some disconnection with the with the in-laws also all of those family dynamics is really going to make sense once we find them out when everything com comes out so we see a lot of intense emotions we see her reaction which is hearing what they're saying about her so it's almost like this war of who can have who can remain in control. >> You know something that stuck out to me from the little segment that we watch doctor was I call first. It seems like she knew that everybody was going to call here. >> Well then if you wanted to get on top the things and she was the first in terms of and calling says she could probably have a report that she could use when they go to the core. This is all about control it always is when we have and cases like this that are so high on flare that are leading to divorce is. >> Do you know the 2 people. >> In this they usually believe they're owed. >> Version of the truth and the narrative that they want and to get out to the world in a scam. >> I that no matter what and what ends up half winning is they start to put themselves. First and clearly forget that there's children involved here. >> A doctor Jay let's talk about the fair itself at this point in her life there together for 30 teen years college sweethearts we know the life that they were living together really because of of him and his family. But it was a very luxurious life. Any thoughts about the choices that she made. >> When we look at their life. Yes, it may be mysterious and they look like they've had it all. But we also know that when it comes to real relation ships that that's just one dimensional so whatever was truly have happening inside that relationship, especially with and women in particular tend to have affairs sometimes there's been a long does connection even before the affair may have happened. But then we also want to consider potentially personality traits and other types of things that may have plate and the situations so we're looking at this live the land right. We also know that a lot of distorted thinking comes to the play so once someone has an affair that they almost like there's a you know layman's term to get drunk with love so to speak so they're all are doing is consuming and thinking about getting their needs met through that silo and then that when that happens a lot of people get hurt not only her husband, but her children and then become so so focused about her getting her needs met and then a lot of people get hurt in the process. >> I'm a doctor. So when you take a listen. This is Robert on that same day making a 911 call any references a conversation he had with Lindsay's mom let's take a listen. >> My wife and our going through it before but I've been going all weekend and she just. I felt my mother to bring the kids back and her mom they had to take it to the ER check for it to some Them if they think because. If they think that was kind of a midlife crisis mental breakdown. Different states. He just followed my parents. When they left the House. But find the kids that yesterday's a call for for the has set up the camera. >> Okay your parents of children with them. Their kids are one thing. >> So that you see there seems to be some concern by Lindsey zone mom here. >> So you know that's a surprise to me I think somebody with her proof Iowa and. That she is having an affair and is not worried about the consequences that is going to have for her family her life there probably was the trauma in her and ask I would suspect that there our problems in relationships growing. She appears to me to be very in the shore and I agree with the other doctor that she probably did not have her needs met. And she's trying to get them at now and all this goes together to make a profile for someone that probably is suffering from some kind of person now and a disorder, your gas before said it was narcissism I don't know if it is or is not but a lot of time you will see in these custody battles that there is a sense of entitlement and control and they want to get their needs met any cost and right now. He says they do so much work with families and children the cost is these children and when you're having an affair unfortunately, you're thinking of yourself your children. >> Jane the other part is if we presume the allegations are true and she's sending an actual text message for someone to take the life of Robert with that that that kill him a text message with a picture of if that is true. What's the process that's going on up here for someone. Not just you know going through with the divorce like the children we'll be taking care of she'll be taken care of as well 13 years your life is Will be fine your life will be very fine. Once you take that next step now you're you're introducing this level of trauma to the whole family and to your own children. >> This is where we're hearing that word narcissism thrown around right so sometimes when we see people that have these acts stream behaviors but they're not thinking about consequences and they take it very to the extreme. And that's sometimes where we would consider and look at is there possibly some type of personality disorder because this is not normal behavior. Yes, there are people that have affairs every single day. But it does not necessarily mean that this could result in them trying to take out their spouse. So we know that they get divorced and as you mentioned they could have yes a lot of stress in these types of things but we see that under the stressful situations where her husband had found that she's having an affair and her not necessarily. Probably having some level of empathy for him but almost these level of not wanting her life we can assume that one of her life to be disrupted and that's where we say the lack of coping skills and Israeli getting super focus on just for moving the problem in these extreme situations. That's where we we can suggest that there's probably other things going on with her versus just a normal way of coping with discovering of her affair. >> Doctor J says doctor Sook homeless staying with us when we come back, we'll dig in to another situation, this was the infamous video as their going away and she wants to use the private >> Where's your husband wants Lawfully situation. So he just says a whole it doesn't come >> at my house. I want to play for you this video we're talking about it a lot this is what we call the travel dispute. So as you know Roberts family has this private jet that they used to go to the Bahamas. He's getting ready to go but she wants to jump on the jet not to hang out with the family. But to go down to the Bahamas to me. Let's watch and see how it all plays out. >> So what what's going on or separated or what was the deal. >> And he's insisting that I don't go. Trying to unload my car tells me he has the car he and the rights to it. We just have to address that and that's when I called immediately because he's been physical before just not okay. They win that so you just want to leave. Is he supposed to be going to be you know or suspect go with our kids so so what's going on this morning. Okay, but she just said you're going. >> All right I need a little help working through this doctor sood you go first. >> Do you really want the cops coming to your house. And interviewing you about a Trent that you are too. >> Taking I mean this to me is at. >> Ridiculous they are calling the police there to help them intervened because they can't communicate with each other. >> You know this this is the problem happens in these hike on Licht divorces they want everybody else to solve their problems for them get in the canceling get help. This is where you need to work out these if she is he says right there she's going to see her boyfriend well, these are the issues that need to be worked out between the 2 of you the police, the family courts are not there to help you work through this stop is for you to to do that she's in how you use either her phase we don't know it vine it's happened here or not she's claiming this and he's remaining is com is in big this is just absurd. >> Doctor Jamie Lacey your analysis of the relationship and situation here that we just watched. >> Well he has every right to have a boundary, especially with and his wife is having an affair and planning a trip to be with her lover right so we listen to him he has a right to have a boundary has a right to request her not to go and use their family property in order to carry out her extra matter affairs. They're on the other hand we're hearing her sing he's called them because there's been visit altercations in the past she wasn't going to do that. You know we don't want to necessarily assume that she's cry Wolf, but sometimes in these cases when there's high entitled and and there's almost this disconnection from reality that these things can be manipulated in order to have the one up and tried to you know show some level of entitlement that she's not going to back down so on the situations that we're looking at is so dysfunctional but he does have a right to have a boundary, especially with given the situation and her kind of pushing through that wanting to still go and see her lover with disregard to it anyone else's feelings just shows the disconnection of reality and potentially how long this has been going on we see people that have such a disconnection from the consequences their behavior it's like losing because they become numb to it because it's been going. >> For a while and when you put this into. >> Context of what happens next 5 days later is when she gets arrested. As allegedly being part of this plot to take him out I want to take a look at something else that is In all this so obviously the arrest takes place. She's in a jail for a while she gets free she's allowed to come back to the United States she does get some level of visitation but other than the visitation she has to stay out of the state of Georgia. But something else happens in Robert's life. Who goes from this high profile case moves into a high profile relationship with Savannah Chris Lee. Reality show star and on her podcast unlocked with Savannah Chris Lea she discussed the beginning of her relationship with Robert. >> I spilled the beans and was like yeah, I'm dating someone who their wife like tried to murder them, it's such a dud complex situation of someone that yes like filed for divorce and the 1st half of the year I would never date a actively Mary person I want to make that very clear my whole situation it's given me so much respect for single dads because also I like seeing it firsthand. >> All right let's talk about this relationship a little bit doctor so so Savannah chrisley her parents are both in in prison. The reality show stars they got caught up with some tax issues et cetera that trials, they're gone for a while. She's very high-profile this case was high profile. He's an alleged victim in all Can it work. >> Any I don't know if it can work or not but what I think is dysfunction fines dysfunction and and I think this is probably what's going on here as well and you know >> think relationships. >> And work after air not healing properly from the pain and what is going on here with his ex-wife. >> It takes time. I think it's important to spend time alone, you know getting to know yourself after this is happened not rushing in. >> To a new relationship to me this just screams dysfunction and that you know he can appeal. >> He needs someone she needs some more. >> And and again you know where are the chill if you're in all and that is I keep saying that because we're not thinking about the children were exploiting and talking about what these parents are going through and the children are the ones in the air and that are going to suffer the most from this. >> I really about 15 seconds left doctor Jenny want to put a bow on all this tonight. >> When these dysfunctional loved idols of any we can probably assume that it will not last right because he is the victim here soon-to-be ex wife or ex-wife is the bill and and this person coming in and rescuing as she said has a different viewpoint of him being a single dad in these types of things so very dysfunctional and they all need to really get to the place of healing and and as my counterparts said especially for these children will one day be able to look back and see all of this that's playing out on the screens. >> Yeah, let's let's hope that children are doing well in our best to everyone there doctor Jenny Lacey doctor sood Kornbluth thank you both so much. 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