MAX GREENFIELD: Identical in Every Way | We're Here to Help with Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds

Intro -- Max Greenfield this is a headgum podcast what what do you mean man that was a cool noise are you are you circumcised what am I am I what have another drink you just said a word I don't know [Music] we are back we sure are Jake and boy oh boy what do we say well I love this start I loved this one yes we had a dear friend of mine and ours Max Greenfield is on the pod great uh I love the guy he's unthinkably funny he just walked out and what he doesn't get credit for is he's smart he's very smart we do a lot of bits but that beginning of New Girl which we talk about in the end he knew what he was doing in a way that I sure didn't yeah there's a calculation and I think even in the advice on the show there is a calculation he's he's definitely yeah I think sometimes people come into the world we've created and they're like you two are are out of your mind thisise is weird and we're both like yeah hold on Biff whff did it first yes yes yes absolutely Biff wh first who cares the was big I didn't realize for the first time when he said that that this is a sand castle not a real castle one big wave we're out of here yeah with ease U but Max Greenfield came on I love him he's the best most of you who listen to this also known new girl so I think you're in for a very special treat uh he's in uh Jerry Seinfeld's movie unfrosted on Netflix on Netflix uh and he's unthinkably funny so if you have not watched that yet watch it now and on CBS he's on the neighborhood with the great s season did he say seventh or eighth crazy yeah uh yeah Cedric the Entertainer and next that show on CBS is a show about Damon WIS Jr and his daddy uh is that the title uh it's something about like me and my daddy or I love my daddy so check out the neighborhood on CBS and Then followed by a show about Damon and his daddy love me my daddy love me daddy love me daddy love me Daddy it's a wonderful show that's great uh but yeah it's a really great episode it's really fun now we have a really fun chat at the end where it was nice to be able to ask Max a lot of his POV uh and uh you know his way into this game yep so uh enjoy the episode without further Ado hello can I get your name please yeah this is this is Robert Robert hey First Caller -- Snipped at Birth Robert uh where are you calling from Robert I'm from Kansas Kansas and about how old are you 32 years old Robert you got a special one my uh old buddy my partner in CME time a guy I've spent more hours with than most people in my life yeah close close quarter in a little room talking [ __ ] from New Girl Mr Schmitty Max greenf back again and I would say the funniest part of unfrosted in my opinion I agree appreciate Tru which're is saying something you got to kill everybody's funny in the movie It's but maxg scores y Robert what can we do for you today well I need some advice about uh my twin brother and trying to figure out whether he's circumcised or not whoa the hell that is a wild Max open okay so you gotta twe all right keep going Robert floor is yours walk us through this so my wife and I recently had a son okay congrats about six months ago and decided that he should be circumcised uh circumcised and so it just natural that yeah you ought to be sure ought to be too um and then from from there we brought him home and like you do after you bring a new baby home family comes to visit twin brother and his family his wife stopped by and congratulated us and then it was kind of unexpected he started to kind of question me and barate me about why we are going to circumcise it really I just kind of brushed it off and went on about my day and didn't think too much of it and then my wife and his wife were texting back and forth about it later on a week or two later and when they talked about it and said that whenever they decide to to this one I'm loving it they talked about whenever they have a son that that they won't circumcise it h and when my wife asked why she said well her husband my my twin brother isn't circumcised what the [ __ ] from from there it just kind of got confusing I didn't yes I assumed from of course you assumed you both are you guys fraternal or identical if you're identical your parents are doing weird science stuff yeah they really it's like twins yes are you guys identical yes what the [ __ ] what should we call your brother just whether it's his real name you can call him Paul Paul okay so you're and you're cut and you don't think Paul is cut well he doesn't know but his Paul sound maybe she doesn't know what cut is maybe they just did a better job on you yeah maybe his is like yeah he's got that that kind of mop top but so so where else do we end up here because this is wild are your parents alive yes there we go so when you brought up that you're going to circumcise your son Paul kind of pushed back and said like no and then he said because I'm not why would we do this and you said cuz I was circumcised never he never said that to me it was his wife who said to my wife that he's not that's crazy is there any other setup on this one anything you're going to riddles where the answer is like your parents the doctor's the mother yeah so is there any other details about this it kind of sprang to mind that maybe it had something to do with us apart when we were first born whe wait what did you do as a way to tell the boys apart they had different dicks I which one's W pull your pants down well that works when you're nude yeah y um it's a tough one when your clothes gets tougher when school starts unless you put your unless you're wearing really tight clothes or just wearing that di like an elephant if you have a Rashard on with no underpants yeah maybe back to the no no just take like a mannequin Jake we know which one's you can you not Mom why'd you cut the whole thing off all you left was nuts my twin brother's got a hog downto his knees that's a that's a problem this is a small issue having a twin brother with a [ __ ] that's way bigger that's significant so Robert just to catch up to you you and your brother were twins you're cut he's uncut uh maybe it's because your parents wanted to be able to tell you a part is there anything else before we start getting into this this is a wild okay so what is the specific question that we could help you with this is a fascinating setup I want to know whether he is or not whether he's just mistaken or okay you want to see your twin brother's dick Robert own it and just say it okay let manifest so we now know this situation on this yes does anybody have an initial pitch I'm still in a bit of shock to be quite honest with you let me just bring something up to you Robert is there any world and you know your family B yours I don't want to put your parents who are probably if you're in your 30s we're guessing 60s in Kansas I don't want to put them in an uncomfortable spot but is this a world you can bring this up to Mama Dad yeah that's your easi path um it would catch him off guard but I could not entirely sure how I would say that okay so that doesn't seem comfortable so we're looking for a way to accidentally get it B sck well there's really there's two places where as men we see each other's dick yeah hold on I have a quick go ahead is there a rift at the current moment between you and your brother um no we're we're a close family we're a close Bunch you ask because of the circumcision well I said well I mean why wouldn't you just ask your brother it's a fair point too right but also that feels too simple part of the reason why I didn't is because it it's hard for me to tell whether he knows what circumcision is yeah it's a very strange predicament hold on Max I get that you get that do you know what circumcision is it's a medical you know it's a medical procedure I don't know every medical procedure how about this one what C give me one what circumcision where you cut the top off yes yeah you don't think your brother knows that there's like the weird like skin part that some kids get cut off and some don't and not if it was not done to him all right I got a question for you Robert any chance you could ask your brother to come out and compare dicks whoa I know it's weird but you could is there any world you could say we're talking have you done it to your son yet yeah yep I was gonna say if you had you could say I want to see the difference before I do it to my kid well again I'm sort of glad that we can't pursue that path if I'm being totally honest on behalf of the show but part of it if he doesn't know if his brother knows you can't just ask going to mom and dad does not seem like a through line what we need to pitch on in my opinion is how we get Paul pants off we got yes we've got to do Max yeah well one I think it's a mistake to involve the child agreed the baby boy well that was your first piss yeah no no well you say agree really quick but he's talking about what you just said went right to I think we need to show get the boy and bring the boys bring the Golden Child before us misquoted qued I'm not saying bring the boy's dick out I'm saying because that's what he said he said I think it would be a good idea so the your brother the boy's dick it would be a good idea it would be a good idea to run it back from the show Kevin show me your dick cuz I'm thinking about doing it to my son not not how it came AC bring the boy's dick out it's a baby you pervert no don't you put it on Twin's dick if you're a identical twin half that dick is mine my guy that is not legally sound don't think you should involve the BL boy I agree well finally glad you came around Jay all right Max 100% agree don't involve the boy that guy's let's say you're ident stop pointing at my dick doing it man but it's my dick I to do with anything I'm pretending we're twins you're pretending I'm the little boy and stop by the way you're my P you're not baby boy tell baby boy if we're doing Twi do that little baby boy dick I'm circumcise you cuz I'm your dad and I'm doing it in house I know you well enough you're looking at me like like a child you've done this to me before we like the I'm like I'm what no you're my brother you're not I'm not I don't play the brother right now I'm not standing foring I said to you show me your dick Bo set up the boy of the baby n that is what you were that what it came across as not going down on this Kevin put it back in the episode cuz I think it's very I I left with the same feeling yeah that you were asking for that's why you're sitting on that couch and yeah that's why we've got a couch between us Robert back to you and your brother it's very good we need to find a way are you kind of pitching and I I don't want to pitch on stuff and at the end of the day you hang up and say that didn't help right are you looking for a way to try to accidentally see Paul's dick yes or are you looking for a way to have a conversation with Paul and we could help get that language right what's the best path forward for you where's your gut leaning towards probably some form of conversation I'd say huh I wonder where got had seen his dick then it felt like that's where you were leading us and now you turned on me it's a shame because I have great let's see his dick pitches I let's get the first one the first one is you say hey look I know we had a little circumcision friction yeah let's go get a beer and you take him to a place where you know the urinals a trough and you do a couple beers and a couple beers deep when he gets up to go to the bathroom you go with him and you just glan down at the schlong real quick you do the lookover yeah well I think you're right in the sense that drinks need to be involved yes are you guys drinkers Robert uh not so much okay sometimes but I do like your idea of doing some form of uh kind of a bathroom look see kind of a sneak to see yeah well because Robert you're the one that said you're not sure if he knows if he's circumcised or did someone in here say that no he doesn't know that's true that's what I said I don't know that he knows what he's talking about right so if there's a conversation and you go have you been circumcised he could say no and he has been yeah so yeah I think and I don't want to put words in your mouth but I think you're looking for evidence you got to see the dick yep I really feel like it's a parents decision because there was somebody who made that call I think this is a two-parter it's one you should try to see the dick and two I actually think you should go to Mom and Dad over Paul Max what are you thinking I again I I I'm going to come back to the simple you should just ask your brother say and and say hey man and and even if he doesn't know what circumcision means hey man will you describe what your dick looks like oh no way with this fly in Kansas you ain't that guy you can't do it public you ain't that guy all right hey will you describe how your dick looks to me I'll take you to the jiujitsu mat right now we'll have some calamari for t for talk like that all right you but you you asked you asked to sober yeah seven drinks in ask me hey man can you just no you're not seven drinks in I am seven drinks in Max all right it's a problem 11 15 15 hey man um hey it's been a good night man it's been fun brother we don't ever do this anymore we don't do it enough I'll tell you who we're not right now Robert and Paul couple of farmers that ain't our Vibe yeah man that's cool want to go feel different man we are good actors man uh Hey man describe to me what your dick looks like good hey man what's that hog look like your to the top part you're crazy man you are man Myck you asking about my dick yeah man just CU we're identical to Brothers we have the same dick that'd be crazy I never even really thought about that we should look at him can you cuz like our faces look alike our hair looks alike our bodies look alike is going to work we got the same size feet it's nuts dude I could like put my I could put my shoes on your feet right now and they fit dude we should see each other's dick man it's the one it's like the last froner let's see if everything was the same okay hold and then you take them off and then you look at it and you get the information that you need but but don't don't like don't Telegraph that you're trying to get that information and then you just go like this same Robert Robert did you hear Max's pitch name one flaw wait no hold on I want you to Robert I want you to try something just as an exercise will you be Robert Max you be Paul yeah and Robert I want you to try to do your version of what Max just did to see if you can get to see your brother's dick but do it in your world wait I'm I'm the brother you're the brother yeah yeah Robert the way Max was kind of leading it let's see if there's a world you can be influenced by that and we could help with it does that make sense yeah yeah I'll give it a try all right good luck buddy all right all right so I'm I'm hold on just to be how old are we 30 3 32 and I live in Kansas and what do you guys do in Kansas what kind of stuff I play a lot of music what's my height and weight 411 3 mostly hog okay all right Robert don't make this a fantasy can I see you dick yes 411 411 350 by the way you know who's Joey I'm sure uh Robert go ahead hey buddy uh how about how about another drink there oh thanks Robert appreciate it more more more than uh more than usual we're having ton that look at us look at us oh man how about them CHS how about them huh oh uh Patrick Yeah Patrick Mahomes all right [Laughter] so that's a little little hot out here think about maybe taking my shirt off hell yeah hell yeah [ __ ] man I'll take my shirt off too oh my God you're right man feel better awful quiet today warm isn't it it's still real warm yeah dude this place is hot as [ __ ] they got to open up some windows in this [ __ ] I mean you could you can take your B godamn we're we're brothers after all no man I was thinking the same thing let me just hold on real quick uh I got this new belt [ __ ] oh hell yeah this feels much better just sitting here in our Underpants it's cool that nobody's saying anything either like just they're letting us be us they know we're brothers they know they yeah they should we're not we look we look really really similar don't we we look at that's cuz we're identical twins my brother and I love you are are we perfectly identical in every way you think well I'm looking at you right now everything looks the same to me gosh almighty let me say something you're handsome too that's very nice for you to say are we identical in every way you think well uh I'm looking at you you're looking at me man for sure look at us it's I mean there are some differences I guess but you know I mean like my eyebrows feel a little bit different than but I don't know what what do you mean man that was a cool noise are you are you circumcised what am I amem I what have another drink you just said a word I don't know you don't know what that word mean you said something about uh circum what circumcised I'm sorry brother I don't know what you're talking about can you can you elaborate that that's all I got man oh Robert Robert keep going I promise you this is finish it off finish it you're right there back in back in you want me to describe what circumcision is to you well yeah I don't know I I know I I don't know what that means when you're a little little boy you're a baby when you're first born they cut your foreskin off do you know what foreskin is I sure don't well maybe maybe we'll do a Google search together here and I'll show you the difference yeah I'll look it up right why are you guys in your underpants guys ready for your chat you led the horse to water and then you kicked it in its ass you don't get a guy in his underpants in a bar then do a Google search Lane if you Doan do that with your clothes on man although it is a nice it's nice it's nice to picture I got to tell you that was my favorite reenactment we've done without question that was as W Robert your timing is excellent it's really weird stuff don't sleep on Paul's timing agreed Paul's incredible but I know who Paul is I know yeah you're right I know Paul think I'm a die hard Paul guy I don't know Robert uh so Robert why didn't you finish this just a how do I tell my ask my brother that it's awkward agreed man here hold on let's help you out Gareth you take over okay all right I'm Paul so hold on the C what the what is this a scientific thing well this is a hygienic again you're using all these big well it's a good way to keep it clean it's like um you know like like you ever watch like 600 lb sisters a lot of stuff gets caught under the layers of skin keep what clean the tip of the penis the penis's tip oh come on man we're well I don't know why I got a sned to be honest I kind of I was having a good you said it was hot as [ __ ] it is hot as [ __ ] I feel good at our under I'm hot I was hot too man I felt good I'm just sitting here on my Underpants and now you're talking about my dick and you're making it all weird well just the tip is sometimes the doctor takes the tip so that in future it's not as hard to keep it clean and did the doctor take your tip I don't know I got something Robert hold no wait this is the moment this is the moment my tip's gone so I have no tip wow looks like a helmet maybe I should look at mine again yeah get it out I'm let's maybe look at it together let's look at it together and I'll tell you if you have your circumcised or not okay let me just quickly tell everyone the bar to look yeah give my heads up hey man don't look don't look over here all right I think that's the move I don't think so Jake was in video Village writing notes the whole time but I actually think this led us to something that could work Robert but it's really weird drug him that's that's another option but I think what this could work there's one guy if there's a medical condition you're going through there's one person who could help you out your twin it's like a liver donor it's like he's a perfect match and you could say you're having something that's happening with your genitals and you're asking as it a really embarrassing flavor can he take a photo or can you see his dick to see if there's what's happening the rash on his is abnormal or what have you so you're asking as like a we're the same but I want to know if you're having the same thing that I'm having and I think it's because of being circumcised and I think your wife said you're not and I'm wondering if it was a big mistake that I did and a mistake I did for my kid are you experiencing this and maybe show them a photo of the tip of yours and be like that's where it gets does it look like this and he goes no and I go what's different and he goes I got skin going over and then you realize oh we have different dicks then the question becomes why did Mom and Dad do this but if you go over that buildup you did with the first Robert and Paul that felt really weird to me my man the really slow Rhythm that you guys drinking beer it was a will they won they which I enjoyed I think you're alone in this I don't think so it was a good take but I will say Robert I think there's a world where you can blame this idea of you have a question about your penis it's embarrassing he's the only guy who can answer it where you could say like do you have this blank issue guys what do you think of that as they we're looking for a solution here I like it I also think if we're going to go the conversation route I I know I pitched I think get a look at it I think the best way to do it is to get a look at ital but the wives have already been talking about this a little bit right this is where the information came I hear what you're saying so why not have your wife talk to his wife and be like hey I just want to make sure we're clear just because I think you might be right Robert is cut Paul did not have the tip of his penis cut hey Robert what do you think about using the wies to have this talk it's normal girl gabs I mean yeah it is pretty normal girl gab you're right about that especially if you guys aren't around defaulted to them Robert I'm also gonna I'm gonna ask a totally different question what are you gonna do with the information once you get it that's that's the second part of this that's uh I don't know what to do wait what does it matter write a song about it what I don't understand there's two situations well sure is and he's just doesn't doesn't know what he's talking about right or he's not and then we need to know why if he's not it opens up a big can of worms about your family in a real way yeah if he doesn't know what circumcision is kind of who cares he might be a little bit yeah whatever you know his light bulb might be a little dim who cares if your parents CCIS one of you and not the other and never told you you ever seen the documentary three identical twins oh my Lord yeah just weird stuff you can do with identical twins yeah that that isn't about their penises no but that these are questions I would ask mom and dad then my my advice to you Robert is I think you trying to do the weird let's take our shirts off our pants off it's hot in here it's going to put you and Paul in a bad spot it's fun it's fun it was a lot of fun to be around it was the hardest I've laughed in a while I think it might be the hardest I've laughed on the show uh but I don't think it's the move uh I like the idea of medical procedure it's hard it's hard to do photos of it I think Gareth is right I think you his wife is leading out very firmly he is not circumcised she might not know what it is yeah so that if your wife goes my husband is 100% circumcised I don't understand why he wouldn't be yeah and then if she says he's not then you could Google it together the wife's and she could say his dick is like that then if you find out you and Paul together can go to Mom and Dad and just go hey on the show please as a followup please I've never wanted to follow up more we'll pay we will literally pay for your follow this is when I'd go to Kansas uh but the next step Robert is going to mom and dad cuz the why on this if it's to tell you apart that's about as weird as it gets and if it's not what happened the doctor died yeah ex like there's no reason lightning strikes there's no reason but so Robert will you ask your wife to take the lead on this I can do that I'm also also kind of leaning two prong approach what's the other prong too I thought about the what you mentioned earlier about building full liquids and then trying to get a peak I listen let's do both let's do both okay let's do both but what hey what hey worst case scenario you find out what his dick looks like twice agreed Robert there's I I can't think of one thing that's bad about you my no Robert you're listen if you're ever in LA do not you want a career you want you want to hang out you want to stay with Jake in his garage where he has a jiu-jitsu man so Robert uh will you genuinely please follow up with us uh are you going to start with getting him drunk and get a look at that hog or are you going to start with the wives I think I'll start with the start with get trying to get a peak okay Robert I'm I mean this I'm really proud of you okay so after the peak works or doesn't work how are you going to do the peak will you walk us through actually what you're going to do I think it's just as simple as uh yeah we're both out out eating somewhere or out of a bar and then if if it's a bathroom with two urinals I mean it could be anywhere well you make sure that you take him to a place God you need to set it up you need to have the right bathroom then that's what I mean yeah yeah you definitely got to make sure you call the place you you know you ask a question they've never been asked before hey do your urinals have divide there's a kind of an open space for uh let me check to whip their penis whistle oh it's open yeah can I make a reservation for tonight at [Laughter] H and then once he goes in then I'll just follow yep you you do you very simply do the I'll hit it too and then go right next to him keep talking and get a look at his dick yep Robert we appreciate the call Buddy keep us very posted thank you thanks right on Robert good luck God bless this episode is brought to you by Squarespace oh Squarespace is something Sponsored by Squarespace that we have used on this show to build the website suits and wigs yep which is a party that is coming up Squarespace uh makes it easy to create a beautiful website engage with your audience and sell anything from products to content to time all in one place all on your terms I will say I have used I've only used square space for my personal website gs.com because it is so easy yeah and it's so easy to make changes and it's like if you had told me that at any point I would be working on 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the issue today the floor is yours a couple months ago I bought a leopard gecko um I don't know if you know what that is but it's a really common pet they are spotty they always have a really Derpy face they're so cute lizard so I always wanted one they're a lizard oh but with the SP I told my husband's family all about it um which his little cousin let's name him Timmy Timmy um proceeded to ask if I ever go on vacation if he could watch the lizard okay and I said oh of course I'm actually going to Hawaii in May you can watch it then couple months go by I we put our house up for sale so I decided it'd be easier just to sell the lizard so I did I sold her in late March until two days ago I went to a barbecue a family Barbecue and the little boy runs up to me Timmy and he says when when am I watching the gecko I know it's this month um I've been raising dubia roaches to feed the gecko as a pet okay so he's been prepping for months for this and me being an awkward person I am said that oh that will be so fun just pretending like I hadn't just sold the gecko a month and a half ago Sarah she so now I leave on May 21st and they expecting me to drop a gecko off on the 20th um so what should I do the most things I've come up with is just telling them that it died pretty good two quick questions how old is Timmy Timmy is about six six man okay that's gonna be hard to disappoint a six-year-old and what were you talking about with the roaches he's raising roaches to feed the gecko the little boy is let me tell you something I have two dogs my kids don't do [ __ ] yeah this kid is Raising yeah he's rais roaches he's ready for his own gecko can you have a conversation with the parents and say listen can we is it time for Timmy to have his own gecko I like that well they had told him if he did a good job watching my gecko they would think about giving him his own gecko well can but you can have a conversation with the parents and say listen this is what happened they'll understand your side of it and then maybe we get Timmy his own gecko clearly he's a responsible kid yeah but here's the catch what if so then you what if Timmy's not ready for it and the parents don't want the gecko does Sarah take the gecko back then no I mean look you know how you find out if the if you're not ready for the gecko the gecko dies I'm not rooting for it but you know that's how you so your pitch so Sarah Max's pitch is you ask the family to buy a gecko what do the when you said you sold it responsibility you she can Sarah can buy the gecko for the GI quick question what is a Geck when you said you sold it on the market what does a gecko run for is it 10 bucks is it 500 bucks it's a wild question what's a well it needs at least like a 20 gallon tank okay but you have a tank I had one oh you sold everything I rehomed the gecko okay so how much the gecko is gone so when you sold everything how much cash did that person from Craigs lift give to you in your garage about $300 okay $300 is in in your world is pretty significant yes yeah yeah we're right out of college we so spending $300 for little Timmy is not really what you want to do right before you go to Hawaii and piss a bunch of money on drinks and food in a hotel yeah it's not not and you said talk to the parent I had already essentially lied to her too because she was like oh I just need to know the plan and I just said well I'm leaving the 21st um because I'm an awkward person yes that leads us to the pitch that I think you had which is that the gecko dies the gecko died I think you have to deliver some bad well what the [ __ ] else are we going to do I mean this kid is Raising godamn roaches take responsibility for your for your lies and own up to it do you know what show you're on you idiot what do you think this is Dr Phil you're not here to hurt so so hold on let me just click cuz I'm with you Sarah on this one you had a gecko Little Leopard guy he spent about 300 bucks you had the whole system little Timmy got excited you said free babysitter yes the parents will help you then were moving you didn't want to move with it you sold it you got 300 bucks what' you put into this whole Geo did you just break even or was there a profit on this little guy this is not shark tanky um I actually lost money on it okay so you're okay so you lost a little bit of money then it's coming up and in the moment will you walk us through why you lied yes and I don't have any judgment I just want to kind of get a sense of that moment I have quite severe anxiety and my husband decided he wasn't going to go to the barbecue bug bites whose party is this that you went to that your husband didn't your family no it's his family it was his brother graduation party he so first of all he screwed you but we're not that's not what this call is about so you go to a party your goddamn anxiety is spiking if I'm you stay away from the cheese you're going to get spider bites I'm not even there for one minute when the aunt comes up to me and was like so I need to know all the details okay and she said Timmy's gonna come and ask you because we've been working on his words to come and ask you this hard question of when you're going to drop the GU and walk me through your anxiety level at this moment are you a 10 out of 10 oh man yes okay you sp okay was already working myself in the car I'm like I'm going to do it I'm going to go get a hamburger I'm going to leave by the way are you me yeah what are I mean honestly I feel a lot of anxiety I'm goingon to go get four hamburgers then I'm G to eat a b of that weird CH I'm freak everyone out and then get in the car and go home then I might go heart selters aren't really alcohol drink about nine of them and go after eight they are take a bag of sniders eat them in the car nobody knows hey yeah Sarah uh J I'm a gecko take care of me I'm not eating roaches stay away from Sarah stay away from Sarah everyone back away from Sarah so your thought is I'm going to eat a hamburger I'm going to do the rounds I'm going to do the right thing by my partner here my husband and I'm gonna get out of here this little boy bombards you yes and what does this little guy say so he you know is hiding behind his mom he finally gets up the courage to say when are you gonna drop the gecko off I'm so excited what was the G wor about food Sarah what are we calling this little lizard was being after jarar Binks okay so he's like when do I get equal success level with this Gecko and jarar I'd say so he goes when do I get my hands on uh this lizard and you go what I go I leave on the 21st I don't mention the gecko I just say this is what I leave and then what happens and then he's like well great don't worry about food I've been raising roaches that's a turn dude Jes that's going to sh nightmare I'm throwing the hamburger on the ground at that point I'm out of here so he goes I've been raising roaches and you hadn't asked him to do this no no this I had told him that you know leopard geckos are hard because they have to eat live food [ __ ] let me ask you this Sarah do you have any contact with the person you sold the gecko to good question none at all I thought about finding someone who would rent me a gecko but it's really hard to find someone who will rent their gecko I don't there's a big business for renting geckos and TXS yeah and I'm a I like to invest in bad businesses I don't see an upside there no means it means you might want to throw a little money in the gecko Market if I'm being honest yeah but like rent a gecko the kind of person that want that's one in a million yeah no you're right yeah okay so we are in a situation where the trip is coming up you have told a lie you got to get out of it this little boy's very excited he started a roach Farm there's talk that his family might do it but we don't know if they're going to follow have to ghost them he can't it's his uh husband's family I honestly think we I'm going back to the beginning here Sarah and a tragedy occur I think it had to die because I was going to pitch the idea of like a fake one that you get a little uh yeah but he's gonna but then he's going to think it that he's going to see a cage full of roaches and be like [ __ ] isn't eating [ __ ] is going hungry as roaches are just overtaking this little aquarium or or here's an idea here's a weird one you get a little tank and you get like a little enclosure and you say they're very shy you can't interrupt them if they're in the this is absolutely and you get a little thing of like clay in the corner of it so he can see the outline and you go like so they're very nervous he might not come out but you just put the roaches in there if he wants to eat just wait and then after the few days you come back and you go you go great and he goes how was it he never came out and you go like oh well he sometimes does that well as long as nobody looks listen if we're not going the route of being honest and owning up to it and we're going to put a lie on a lie yeah you got to sell it and I think you get a tattoo of the rip Binks yeah rip Binks just a Binks tattoo and then you say you say little hey little boy Timmy hey little guy hey little guy you know uh how you have to you know how you have to back out of the driveway G will you be Timmy yeah uhhuh okay yeah and you know you know how we just got that new Dodge Ram I okay the car yeah okay wait Max are you Sarah oh I I dipped into Paul a little the cool Cowboy Vibes I didn't know go like hey want are you circumcised little guy want to find out SAR Utah not a gecko at all and it ain't dead either hey um so you know how um we rented the Sienna for the last couple months the uh the car yeah yeah we love we love it we you know we fit so much stuff in there we drive anyway um you know have we have to back out of the driveway at your house yeah yeah yeah yeah okay um well uh you know sometimes you know how we let Binks run out in the front yard that's dangerous well not Binks loves it I can't wait to meet Binks again cuz I have all the roaches ready to go he's going to eat so well while you're G that's the thing um so exciting we were pulling out of the driveway and we'd forgotten to put Binks back in the house oh no um no and don't say it your dad ran over Binks wait my dad did and why was my that was a Sarah watch don't cuz Sarah if we're if we're going to do this don't put it on you my dad was over at your house and he ran over pink yeah and I knew how badly he would feel about it so I didn't tell him but I didn't pink okay I didn't do it is Binks okay Binks is dead oh my God I'm sorry but I had all the roaches save them they're they'll be useful for something hey what will they be useful for maybe they could be your pets what you could take care of the roaches you can name them Sarah you give them all Star Wars names Sarah what do you think about honestly telling the family that Banks died is that a path you're comfortable with it's I feel like it might be one of my only options great change of voice there it you that was you were not comfortable this is a situ yes you don't want to hurt this little kid no I get it's but the kids's gonna get hurt and here's why Sarah so Max is pushing towards this is so easy this is obvious just tell the truth right and own up to your lie is that correct yes and so that version Sarah is you calling Timmy's mom and saying hey I sold Binks like a two months ago at the party I had anxiety and I lied to you it's now coming up uh but there's no banks then that Mom is going to go what the [ __ ] cuz now I have to say to my I have to handle your mess cuz your lie so you could do that or you could do the other lie and that is you just call the parents and you say I've got very bad news Bings died or or or or please to your weird clay gecko yeah get a fake one okay put it on a rock in the [ __ ] thing yeah take it over there yeah keep going don't listen to Max keep going K Timmy killed the gecko interesting Tim you brought over a living gecko that's going to traumatize the guy huh we we are what are we going to do in danger zone there's no solute this kid is we're hurting Timmy so Sarah forget about Timmy well you hurt yourself when you made the lie and you're only going to make it worse if you keep on lying I you go to first of all I thought your reaction as the mom was super intense you do yes really yes it was like a friendship if now here's not a friendship end to me if somebody said to my kid my kid's all excited and then they said as soon as they sold it we sold it fine this lady came to my house ate a hamburger told my kid it's coming up all right this is a weird lie I know I'm Sarah and I I'm Sarah and I go to the mom okay I'm the mom yeah okay so Sarah how quick until this trip starts I just need these facts 21st right you're leaving about two weeks y so when was the barbecue when you lied two days ago okay fresher than I thought fresher than I thought yeah uh imagine how annoying Timmy has been to this Mom keep that in mind all this [ __ ] kid talks about is as Geico sure and the roaches okay hey honey hey Mom I'm not your mom I know but you're Timmy's mom and I need to talk to youy get out of here I want to talk to I want to talk I want to talk to you about my anxiety I have I don't know you that well I have a mtal health issue and sometimes i' it's okay you know the gecko I had Timmy the my son's Timmy is so excited I know he he's raising these roaches it is a whole thing I know he is I'm not excited about we got rid of the the the Binks that they spotted gecko we got rid of it what do you mean we got rid of it we were Mo we were moving whatever the I was moving the house and we needed to get rid of it and we so we don't we don't have it anymore but because of my anxi when did you sell it I don't know a month ago why didn't you tell me I would have [ __ ] bought it for I didn't [ __ ] think of you the moment I sold the thing I was thinking about the house well you had a financial crisis the first thing you got to do is sell a lizard get a job [ __ ] you told my kid he's been raising roaches you sell it a month ago you're telling me right now like it's noral I'll bu I'll buy the roaches off of them I'm offering toach the roaches cost $5,000 come on the roaches don't cost $5,000 the RO hey you had an opportunity you know we're thinking about getting a lizard what are you on drugs you a drug addict you got it what do you sell it in an alley I'll go right back to that you selling a lizard in an alley no not selling a lizard your little boy came up to me and he was off my little boy is making roach he the most annoying little [ __ ] I've ever met in my entire life what kind of kid raises roaches hi Sarah hey Timmy hi uh this is your kind of ant uh so why are you yelling oh we just got worked up honey um so uh Sarah is there anything you want to say to Timmy can't wait to see Binks anything that you want to say Yes um Sarah go ahead Timmy um Binks died because of your dad Sarah thank you very well very good she know please follow up let us wait are you gonna actually what are you gonna really do really fast oh yeah I think I'm GNA say that dinks died yeah and since my husband was the reason this happened I'm gonna blame it on him I may I add another layer because your husband brought up Timmy no my husband let golfing so he's the reason oh cuz he wasn't at the party that's why it's his fault he was there I could have done it I could have told the truth I think that's right okay so Gareth what were you GNA well I think that works I was going to say have your husband deliver the news put it all on him he's closer he's got more of a track record it's his fault he relates to them the bad news is is that uh this is why you get married the lizard the lizard passed away natural causes what do you think of that or do you want to do it oh I'm not going to do it okay so Christ I thought it was an option you really I I didn't realize we did like five reenactments where you're delivering the news you don't want to jump in at one point let us know that wasn't the I didn't realize it wasn't an option what you heard how it played out it was horrible every time I'm not doing any of this [ __ ] no my husband is the only option I'm going to go with the clay option by the way I already told them I just wanted to call the show why don't you make one of those like cakes those hyperrealistic cakes we need a hologram and then when he he discovers it's dead you just take a big bite of it go oh my God traumatize up make a cake lizard chocolate oh Pig was chocolate so Sarah the final advice is you're going to and the thing you said you're going to do is you're going to have your husband tell the family that the Geico has died the gecko is that true the gecko what did I say Geico Geico you're doing the insurance pre yes or buy a new gecko those are the same well you are you are a real I mean if you're going to buy a new one let's go is that a real option that's what I I thought about it um and then telling them that they could buy it from me I like that I money on hold on that's actually a real play you buy he's very into the finances yes Jake right now yeah but here's a real I'm not trying to get a profit for no you want to cut yes you are I mean I make a little bit of something so we're 300 all in if you sell the thing so but but Sarah this is I want one point so this is a real option I want back door what if you actually buy the tank buy the thing give it to her when Timmy's done go you did so good then say to the parents if you guys are considering getting one I would be open to sell you this and I would just you know do it for what I paid 500 bucks about just this he's he wants one so badly I if it's okay get sick of it keep going no like you just go I want to buy you one like I like we bought you one and if it's okay with the parents well she she doesn't want to go down to 300 bucks I think you do it I think you trying parents to reimburse it that's fine you go afterwards you go how was it and if here's the you could frontload that plan by saying hey look I think let's do the trial run where he looks after it and then you guys just want to buy it off me after the Hawaii trip if they say no then you say natural causes yes you say listen this is going to sound crazy but it died or I mean that's really it that's it that's the end here's what I really think I here's what I really in my heart of hearts believe we've LED you to some weird ones I wouldn't do the clay one that feels really crazy if you get caught you're in a danger zone that Community you're a legend the lying about dying feels really strange to me here's what I would actually do if I were you I would text the parents and say I'm not against um selling it to you guys at cost you know whatever blah blah blah if he's into it um and so this could be a trial run I'm kind of done with my gecko phase of life and so if they he's already raising them the parents know they're eventually going to buy a [ __ ] system for this gecko so afterwards you just say how'd it go they go good and you go look the whole thing could just be yours it's 300 bucks and they go great I mean whatever you want to say in the last second let your hamburger anxiety take over yeah yeah how much is it $25 I got a call back wire I'll pay you but Sarah what do you think of just [ __ ] going for it giving because we don't want to hurt Timmy getting him a [ __ ] gecko what if you go with the clay one but you don't give him the clay one you take the clay one with to Hawaii and you take pictures of you with the clay one you're taking the G you weaken a Bernie this thing and then you you let them know on the pinkies oh my go win I forgot to drop it off it's been having the left him and a why he wanted to stay he was so happy he met all of his relatives relatives and other iguanas and [ __ ] and then he drank the sea water he left them there it was beautiful how could I him back or I tried to bring him back he was finally home he's in natural habitat they killed him at Customs is that your pitch Jake so Sarah now with these new round of pitches what do you think you're going to do is there any world you're going to just buy it and go for it because I think what's going to happen is they're going to love it Timmy's going to crush his weekend his little roaches are going to be perfect he's going to fall in love the parents are going to go I mean it's literally growing roaches the best twist is the roaches kill the gecko yes but what do you think of that as a plan with the idea of afterwards you figure out a fair price and you sell to them would you think about doing that where you at yes I've actually been looking on Craigslist to see if there's anybody that already has a whole setup that is looking to get rid of it okay that I can just pick up and then take to their house why don't you get them a really small cage just for the weekend like a little starter kit and would they can then buy whatever they want after go to PetSmart and get an a $20 little home for it say you broke the other one It crack or you don't want to travel with it sure that's a good idea but you just get like one of those little travel cheap ones and then you go this is just for the weekend and then go you want the [ __ ] gecko what do you spend what do you go to PetSmart buy one of those lizards for 18 bucks that's not a $300 creature it's the 300 for 20 40 bucks so 40 bucks in a $15 thing it's already got its food you're 65 bucks in but what do you think about that go and spend 40 bucks on the little lizard 15 bucks on the little cage bringing it there for the weekend if they want to get another big cage [ __ ] go for it I like that I think I'll do that Sarah I think this is the best way out of a very weird hamburger lie yes that's why I called this podcast well we are happy listen it's been a great two hours and uh I never thought I'd say gecko so many goddamn times and uh and we appreciate it and appreciate Max we appreciate you thank you Max Sarah hopefully we helped you keep us posted Sarah I think you did this is insane gonna actually do this oh yeah I'm probably going to go to PetSmart now thank you I think this is going to be a happy ending especially for Timmy not for Binks he passed away me too okay thank bye thanks bud bye this episode Garf man is sponsored by rocket money oh yeah Jake it's a Sponsored by Rocket Money personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions it monitors your spending and it helps you lower your bills so that you can grow your savings I think the whole idea of Rocket money is that we have all these subscriptions I know I do that we forget about and then all of a sudden you're charge $14 a month 16 bucks nine bucks and you don't even watch or use those things so try rocket money well you do the thing where you just you 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internally how much he had influenced everything that I had done interesting and so when we were doing new girl and I was always saying like I mean from the very we started that show I was like this is all fun and games but we should really you know just knock out a wall and put a live studio audience there and then we'd be making a real show but you acted like that and changed the way I acted like that and it worked well for that for that for that show and I certainly had like you know a very specific tone on that on New Girl yeah and and we joke about this you know Dave and Brett who were running the show with the time they would come in and they would be like Max please just do just do one take like a like a human boy like but you knew they loved it and when I would get that note I would go oh I'm doing I'm this I'm doing exactly what I need to be doing like this is I'm right in the zone yeah and it was my f i mean it was my favorite and so that when we started working on INF frosted and because the way that like I was situated and positioned in that movie where it was really just Amy and I yeah and we were basically for the most part in these really sort of contained scenes and Jerry was dirting so he didn't have to think about acting at all and he would come in we'd rehearse it they'd block it out and uh and then he had like four or five Seinfeld writers you got to live who were coming in and rewriting it very much like you know you do on a multicam which at this point I had been on for you know five six years and so I was like I'm so comfortable here and I'm getting to do the exact thing that I want like the tone that I want to be doing [ __ ] cool man with Jerry yeah and and he was you know and on day one we get him to laugh and from that point on on it was just it was on it was the greatest that's so I got a question for you actually that I've talked uh Without You on but how did you know the tone of new girl before the rest of us because obviously Zoe and I thought we were doing Freaks and Geeks yeah and we've talked about this yeah Liz I think was all over the place she was kind of the genius but she was doing all shows fle was more like when you say finle and Brett fle was more in your camp but Brett was more in the me and Zoe Camp I think they all you but you knew what you were doing I think they knew too you did yeah and I think I think I mean it's it structurally was was is no different than most TV shows right you had like you can like big Bang's a good example you brought this up I remember it you had uh Johnny gucky and and kayy quo were doing their their thing and establishing that relationship which is the centerpiece of the show right but you need the third piece which is Jim Parson because if you're on if you're on a a half hour on network TV it's like the love story is nice but we build that over time you need like the you need the jokes the punchline guy and so and that balances out and you ride with the punchline jokes punchline guy until you catch up with the the the love story and so it wasn't even that I understood the tone of the show it's that it was very evident what you guys were doing I never forget I walked by the monitor one day and you and Zoe were doing like some toothbrush thing right and you were like oh my God this is you guys were like it was so clear and you guys were doing incredible work and it was subtle and it was really nice and you were like this is you know this is Sam and Diane this is every great love story on a network TV show and I go okay that's that part of the show and then I think it was like I forget what episode it was it was early on but I had to do that thing where you guys walk in uh to the room and I'm like trying to figure out where I look sexiest in in in my bedroom yes this is like episode two or three yeah yeah yeah and I'm like pushing it yeah yeah yeah and you guys are just down there like on what is happening here well that's I I remember we talked about it I was like I don't what show you're on or what show I'm on but but even like but that was your reaction not only in real life but in the scene and and and then every everybody's coming in and they're going oh this is and I go okay great this is what they want this to be you guys and also lamorn wasn't a thing on the show yet and they had put him on a shelf they had told us they put him on a shelf so it was really just the three of us yeah you're not and so that was the structure hadn't started really no she was she wasn't even a regular on the show at that point it was just the three of us and I was like if this is the three of us this is the thing yeah it was like the you you have to balance the tones where do you Max so when did you realize oh this is a a [ __ ] real Arc here because you would then lean into that because I thought at the beginning if you remember we thought for sure it was going to be Damon and her uh Damon and Hannah from the B it was very clear there and then Schmidt was kind of bouncing around as the funny guy then when Lamor came for some reason it was very clear it ain't going to be Lamor I don't know why and it ain't going to be these two but we got a woman whose character is straight up a model yeah and she was her contract was something like 13 out of we're gonna she's gonna be around it can't just be with Zoe on her adventures yeah but there was a moment when it started well Liz and Brett and Dave were super smart in that they just let the show sort of play out and then wrote to what they were sort of seeing un you're totally right and I think smartly I think they notic oh I think we can do more with my character than just make him like the woman on the show and like he's got a new girl and it was like What if we put him with with like everything seemed to be working really well with Hannah's character and so I think and what ended up happening was which I think was great was they put us together and you know they gave us some some obstacles in the beginning and it was hit or miss and then but it allowed you guys they sped our relationship up in order to slow yours down oh that's interesting and so if you look at like all of the big things that happened or a lot of the big things that happened like we were the setpiece for a lot of big moments for you guys so it was like explain what you me CCE and Schmid's wedding right is a moment for Nick and Jess oh right mean it was like Schmid and CeCe or whatever like whatever they're like they're getting engaged these things are happening in these big story what would be like a movie right we get to play out the Jess Nick stuff yeah within that and that creates the setpiece for you guys yeah yeah yeah and so I I like I really I love that Dynamic yeah me did too it was fun um and it I think it all was in service of that relationship yeah I actually think it was all in service and when I look back on that show and we've talked about it off air but the hit that that thing has done on Netflix and its new life I didn't see happening I by the end of our show we did not get big ratings we were not we didn't all go on Conan in director's chairs and get a big Applause it wasn't a big ending so the fact that it's had this whole second life has given me time to like actually learn like gratitude about it and appreciation as opposed to like fun job lot of good bits fun goofing a around with Max and being like I'm 45 and there's like a new person who loves the show yeah you're like pretty [ __ ] cool man yeah and I think we lived on Netflix for a really long time and and there I I I like joke about this with my daughter who's now 14 crazy she's 14 she's just the kids all know about it at that age but they're not like fully into it interesting it get it's like they're just before it's really college kids yeah interesting um cuz they're in they're in their dorms nothing to do and also you know I think there was I also think there was a inane influx of people who were introduced to that show during Co and pic changed everything I'm going to watch well they missed having a group of friends totally who were nice to each other and all came together at the end but because it's so available now I think you know you get these like there's always going to be new college kids and they're going to and they're going to always Discover it and it's going to be super weird because you know we're going to be 60 like not man and there's going to be like you know 23y old girls who are goinging be like this 29 and I'm going to be like this oh my God 48 brother you know what it's going to be funny 62 lady you know we talked about it before we were all like you know little [ __ ] about or whatever this idea of like will there ever be a something you know we're like I don't know what it means there's eventually one day the rubber is going to meet the road and we're all going to be together doing something I don't know what it is oh the old girl but the but whatever that bit whatever that thing is if it keeps living on look if it's on Hulu and then it eventually dies out it'll go away but if people do keep finding it the idea of what that reunion would be it's not going to be three EP they're not going to do it Will and Grace I don't think new girl will ever go away yes you don't no no no no so this is what I'm saying about it so you even said when we first started season one I was having a freakout it's too much work for me uh I couldn't keep up with the lines I was just get stopping with weed but I was drinking so much it was too much for me I was Los also I was losing it you also were you were in a tough position because Zoe's the lead of the show yes so I was in her stories and you had to ground her stories yes and you're watching me run around and bounce off the walls and hit every punchline and the writers are just like giving me joke after joke after joke after joke after joke and I remember you were like I'm do they not think I'm funny what do I need to do here Tot but also I was there all the time because I would be in your scenes too totally so I was there all and also beforeand I had no experience so I was I was used to being ath on call sheet working on a Tuesday I get it and I was like this shit's too much but your position on the show was was always like I've been there before we were going what am what am I even doing yeah yeah yeah what is going on here totally I don't like but you really quick were a big part of the turn for me you remember the scene I'm talking about outside of the house where there was a scene where we were I think it was parking lot or something like parking spot something we all had to run we were here and they wanted in a wide shot run to the garbage can throw something out run back oh yeah every take Max did video Village was given like a standing ovation it was like a vailan show where the audiences were throwing roses Zoe was going everyone was happy I was going there' be like a real long pause and then everyone would come back be like really great great great back yeah yeah and then they go hey running to the garbage before we did the take I go I did one and Jak's go what the [ __ ] and I go Jake watch I'm going to do a and I was aware I said I'm going to do a ridiculous one yeah even for me yeah and I go Watch What Happens literally right before go showing off watch this and I literally did brazili Jiu-Jitsu cartwheels you know what you really speaking of the Seinfeld you did Kramer cuz you would run out you would do like a then you would spin You' see the garbage You' be like whoa whoa you took every moment heightened heightened heightened big laughs so then he said to because I was banging my head against the wall and I'm like there's no bit I'm just throwing something out and he goes listen pretend there's a live studio audience and he goes can you hear him can you see we're doing it and I was like I got them they're all there I did a take to be a brat to just make Max laugh a big part of that job was making each other laugh well I mean when it turned into that it became the most fun for for me hands down it's what I when I look back it's literally you and me I think probably if if there's a version of us not like totally losing it that maybe that show's still on the air I don't want to be on it man but he goes pretend there's an audience I do a take where I think afterwards I'm going to have a talk about my at ude problem I'm like it's so broad I'm literally running like I have clown shoes on afterwards BR and Dave yeah that's it man and I had this like really clear moment of like now I'm lost because so funny have a clear moment of I don't know but now I my head just got cut off I'm a chicken and the race just started but I'm leaning in oh man well before we let you go Max uh in terms of when we started New Girl season 1 at some point I said uh how many of these you think are going to go and you said we're doing at least five years and we would have moments and then you'd be right so you said before you're like new girl is going to keep coming back what do you think is going to happen in terms of some idea of a reunion some idea of a something what do you think the end goal thing will be what do you think it'll kind of look like that we'll all eventually do or nothing because I have no gut instinct I mean it's really where it's up to Liz yeah I have no idea thing that you think would be cuz like we're all still like the amount of time I still text with Zoe with you with lamort with Hannah it's like it's still going in ways other projects don't I've done movies where I really like everybody and then everyone just kind of scatters I think it's partly because of Netflix that we keep getting brought back that I'm like if you would have asked me two years ago will there ever be a union I would have said a 100,000 NOS is there any talk of anything or it'll get it'll keep getting like brought up randomly whenever you have to do press they'll say something and mine has always been these are ridiculous questions cuz it's not going to happen just recently with like a new generation of young people I'm like eventually something is going to happen right I I so the the new girl writers room would do this secret santa every year okay and it was a big deal JJ Filman is like this is her Super Bowl every year it's her favorite thing in the world and Sarah Tapscott got real into it and they do this thing and they buy these elaborate gifts or like these like wild like somebody there was like a Billy Joel insane like insanely elaborate truly hilar hilarious gifts and it was a big deal who got who when they was b anyway so I had heard about it and the LA that last season that like smaller eighth season or seventh season um when we were shooting at that new studio I go uh and like the writer room was right upstairs I go I'm going to go this and so I went up there and I watched and it was and everybody knew it was the last season and it was like and JJ and Sarah are like decorating the whole room and it was it was and it the vibe was amazing and everybody like was so excited and JJ had Liz okay and so I and you know JJ's a neighbor and I and I and I saw her doing like making these things that the house bite never put two and two together she presents the gift to Liz and this is on last season and I'm going oh oh I vely remember this and J JJ had made dolls of each character they were about like this big and she had like and they were pretty good but they were also sort of funny cuz they were clearly homemade yeah watching Liz open that and start to like get emotional and look at these like ridiculous dolls it made me realize that she is invested and always will be in this show and these characters in a way that I will never understand yeah totally as many as many times have I've showed up and played that character what I'm it there's I can't even see how she sees it totally so it's whatever she yeah you're exactly right so it really comes down to like if they're going to come if I mean I'm sure if she wanted to do something the only way would ever happen and if it happened she would come there would be a text on and she go I have an idea yeah and she was like I finally feel like there's a version of this that Mak sense to me that I want to do and I don't know that she ever gets there cuz you I remember watching that like Friends reunion and and a and a who was it it was Lisa kudro had said she was talking about the creators of the show and she was saying you know you work so hard to to wrap everything up in the end if you come back you got to undo totally right and we ended in in an odd way where it was this Flash Forward so you can't really like go back in time so now we'd be going past then and then you're introducing kids and it's a whole thing and like who knows but again like if Liz if she cracks it if Liz and if also if Liz cracked it and she was like and she was like I'm I I I really have a great idea and I want to do this that's I go back then yeah interesting but it's inter anything other than that it's not a real it's not a real conversation but it's also because it is one of those last net big network shows not every show would have the audience or the opportunity to do something like that right and that's why like if you have Netflix where people keep rediscovering it totally there's actually an appetite for something like that where there probably isn't with shows that are on air as much yeah and and and and what you hope you don't do is Ru is ruin it's really not going back all right so you got paid the way they did the Seinfeld reunion on Curb Your Enthusiasm was one of those kind of loophole reunion shows where you kind of got to see it all but it wasn't like that but whatever anything but I agree with you about the Liz thing I don't think there's any uh besides it's fun doing press and always blaming it on lamorn and saying if you ever do press go you want to do Arena go we're all in but lamorn won't do the contract besides that fun he's the he blamed it on you didn't he do oh it's not funny now well I know we he and I are just constantly going after each other these days he did a whole thing about like and then Liz sent out a text and was like Lamor what are you doing cuz he did something he goes Jake Johnson won't do he's too expensive you're the best Max this was the [Music] best hey everybody thank you guys for watching us on YouTube please like And subscribe so you don't miss any of this quality cont content here to help go ahead cut that was a headgum podcast