Brady Quinn - It Didn't Feel Like There Was Any Line Connor Stalions Wasn't Going to Cross

so have you guys had a chance to watch or see any clips of the sign stealing thing on documentary or documentary Conor stallions on Netflix um have you guys had a chance to see that or any yeah SE some clips what did yall think of it I mean it seems like he's uh pulling a Jim Harbaugh you know he's he's not going to admit to uh any wrongdoing or vilify himself there's also this sense of um and and maybe it's growing up in Columbus Ohio just understanding the passion and the culture for your college football team and and obviously I grew up in a place where you I grew up a Buckey fan I was a Notre Dame fan too I don't know that I was you know specific to one team right like when I was young the first position I ever played was wide receiver so I love Jerry Rice you know Jerry Rice when I was the first I could remember was the greatest football player of all time so I love Joe Montana I love Jerry Rice and yeah I'll still never forget Cordell Stewart throwing a hell mared to Michael Westbrook to beat Michigan yeah and you know my my dad who was from Colorado and us watching the game in our basement and I was jumping up and down was the coolest thing i' ever seen before in my life and at that time you know it was like these gold helmets man that's sweet and then you started liking you know Notre Dame the gold helmet just something about the Allure of of the gold helmet but you know it wasn't like I was you know seriously for one team or another I mean I grew up right in the backyard for the Buckey so in in watching this whole thing it to me displays this sense of what I think happens a lot often times around n Arbor often times around Columbus is you get people who are obsessed I mean absolutely obsessed live and die by the way Ohio State plays or Michigan plays and it's it's hard sometimes and V I know you're a PA guy I know you're a Penn State guy and I'm sure there's you know people who are similar in that respect too there but like the Michigan Ohio State rivalry is what it is because there is like and it seems so weird that there' be like hatred over a college football rivalry but it's true man like I I grew up in it and experienced it from a fan perspective you know as a recruit being recruited by both schools and just their perspective on it like it is real it is real and what the documentary showcase more than anything to me was how much this guy loved the University of Michigan and if he couldn't help them as a player or as a coach he was going to help them in whatever capacity he felt like was possible to help them win a National Championship so that that's what speaks to me more than anything else is like this was a diard fan like past the point of obsession to where like this was what his life was about like his calling like you almost kind of felt that and that was what was all on the line let me ask you this is that is there a place for that in in sport like there's probably somebody that feels like that about every team that exists like isn't that it should not be the type I mean within the rules of course should not be the type of people you hire to some degree but I I don't know that there's people who are willing to put their name their reputation their livelihood on the line like that you know what I'm saying like I mean we now know him and he's associated with you know this whole sign stealing Scandal if you will and and to what lengths it goes it's it's hard necessarily put your finger on I mean there's points in time in the documentary you know he's like ah it doesn't look like me's sitting on the sidelines in central Michigan and and then you've got people saying how you know they're like no you know he didn't do it he wasn't there he wasn't a part of it and Port nor comes out and like no that was him he told me so I was like well great there you go Dave like way way to help out your Michigan Brethren and and then Porto said he was misquoted later that they they edited that to make it sound like that's what he was trying to say but he wasn't implying and and look maybe that's the case right because they that's that's part of the problem with documentaries are you know there's there's oftentimes a lot of tape that happens and a lot of editing that happens because they have to create the story and at the end of the day like they need you to watch they need you to talk about it they need you to look at Netflix in this case and say their original content is better than anyone else's they Conor stallion's documentary is going to be better than anyone else's like that's part of their pitch so right wrong or indifferent I think no one looks at it and says oh this is the absolute truth like Netflix has this burden to to prove one way or another they're just trying to put together a compelling documentary with interesting stories and and personalities that are involved but anyway to to your question Lavar I I do think there are fans to some degree that are like that for most things but I I do think they there's a line that they're not going to cross and obviously it didn't feel like there was any line any line that ex that Conor stallion wasn't going to cross in the hopes of getting or helping Michigan which again I look at that in in two ways one and I have say this publicly I know there's a lot of Ohio State fans who feel like they've been wrong they've been Che first off you're not the only team in the Big 10 that obviously they were doing this too there's other teams that are involved as well the next thing I'd say is a lot of people were doing it and were doing something similar be careful for pointing the finger because you might have some pointing back at you um and the last thing is is look that when Conor Stallion and you know Michigan was you know kind of self-punishing and and you know the Big 10 obviously punished Harbaugh towards the end of the year he wasn't involved in any of that stuff like at some point last season you got to take your hat off and say that was just the national championship caliber team like I know a bunch of people who said like whoa look at the look at the games and the spreads and their their covers and all this stuff and it's like dude stop using gambling as an indication of that right like you know when miss wants to turn on they could turn on they had a soft schedule at the beginning of the season they didn't need to do as as much as you know to to cover a what a 40 point spread or whatever it was 30 some point spread versus ECU like that's not in the back of Jim Harbaugh's mind at that point and by the way he wasn't even on the field for that he was suspended for those few games but but my my I I digress my my point is is I look at it and just SC like they still on the national championship he wasn't down there in the sidelines he wasn't down there helping them prep and all that if anything it was it it was a distraction like they they didn't have if they had an advantage they didn't have it in the second half of last season they didn't have it in the playoff and that led to them winning so you know we can we can make whatever we want about what took place the reality is the documentary is compelling only because it I think it gives a lot of people who don't grow up in that Ohio State or Michigan culture perspective a w a window into what it is like like what it is like to grow up in that and they kind of show the mom I in the beginning of the of the uh documentary like tackling him and and he almost had this love for Michigan because of his mom loved Michigan and so there's like that kind of tale and story to it that to me I'm kind of like yeah that's that's what it's like man that's part of the culture when you're from Ohio or you're from Michigan like that's that's how it works you're kind of born into it is he a hero I think the Michigan fans in some ways he is you know and I don't want to speak for Michigan fans obviously I've got family members who are Michigan alums but I mean I I would say that I think people look at them and they say like I don't know if it's the exact definition of a Michigan man but they have this idea of what a Michigan a Michigan man is and I think you know he'd be probably up there when we talk about Barry Bonds and you know should he be a Hall of Famer or whatnot I think we all kind of feel the same that look the reason why we feel like he's the best ever is because not only what he did after he started taking peeds but how great of a player he was before he did it so we've seen the before and after so yeah you can say Well it gave him a little bit of help or whatnot but we've seen what it was like both versions and both versions were great little head Barry Bonds was a banger in in Pittsburgh it fantastic and amazing and that's why people say well he probably didn't need to take steroids so he probably didn't need to take peeds is it even confirmed that he did no but you know never been confirmed me here's the problem with you Jonas is you always want everyone to be on the guas so then it becomes a little accusatory sometimes of you just think everyone is my point is though with Connor stallions like we we saw both versions of Michigan we saw Michigan when they were allegedly signed stealing and then we saw them when they were caught and everything was out in the open and they and everybody was going to do something about it and their coach was punished and guess what happened they won every single game like they won every single game they ran the table and so this kind of loses Steam for me because I go all right so maybe he was cutting corners or cheating if you want to call it that but it's not like that was what got them to where they got to they still had to go win big games down the stretch and they did so and they did so compromis without their head coach in in a lot of those spots so I I just look at it and I go feels like a fan base if you're Ohio State maybe you're upset and you're being upset should be directed toward the fact that it's been like 2,000 days since you beaten him right well and the other thing I think is it discredits what JJ McCarthy has accomplished because it just so happens to coincide if you look at who was the starter of the past two years it was JJ McCarthy and go back through his high school career you know go back through I mean he's he's been a winner wherever wherever he's been that's the one thing when you get people who are around JJ McCarthy or people who have evaluated him and talking why the Minnesota Vikings are are so high on him too and that's why they drafted him the first round is they just they feel like there's that it Factor there's those intangibles that you look for in a guy who you know whether it's being selfless whether it's making a play when he needs to or toughing it out grinding it out you know they feel like he has those intangibles and so it's a discredit to him I I personally feel like too you know when they moved on from Josh gtis and this is no disrespect to Josh gtis but there was somewhat of a significant offensive Improvement you know they made staff changes over that period of time too that made for a big change I've talked at length about Mike McDonald and just his impact on that defense and how that kind of started a little bit too of that run of Michigan defenses feeling like they were a top three top five defense every single year and then it transferred over to Jesse Minter who you know rent very similar system everything else kind of kept that intact and upheld that so you start looking through some of the staff change you start looking at like well who was who was playing quarterback oh okay JJ McCarthy oh y that the guy went the first round gotcha like it kind of starts to add up too that you're you're discrediting what they actually did on the field and forget the sign stealing for a second like I've gone over this with you guys before they hadn't had a quarterback that they recruited and got drafted that they recruited and got drafted since Chad Henny I mean think about how long ago that was it was like what 2008 2009 something like that so long time ago it's a hell of a long time and so if you look at like what's been one of the missing pieces that's one of the missing pieces like if you want to compete you want to win a National Championship in college football you better have a QB I mean if we were talk in Penn State Standards that's the you want to be honest with the biggest questions this year Andy codal necki is the offensive coordinator they brought in from Kansas he's creative smart guy he's going to put Drew all in a position to succeed now whether or not drewal ends up being the right guy for the system we're going to find out it starts off here coming up this this weekend but if he's not Bo perula I I think is also a very good fit do yeah I I mean I I've been I've been singing Drew Drew's Praises since he's gotten I I have too dud he reminds me of a little Big Ben yeah I I believe I believe he will the maturity I think some of the the setbacks that he's had I I mean we don't need to go too deep into the breakdown of Drew but I I hear what you're saying though but but they have a shot in my opinion because of what I thinker yes yes I mean you're you're but again I I felt like anytime we had a good year here at at at Penn State it was because we had a quarterback that could play and and I say that to say not not a firstr draft pick quarterback right not a not a franchise guy so if we if if Drew turns out to be the guy I think he is and I call him the franchise if he turns out to be a franchise quarterback I believe that the program goes to another level and and what it's its possibilities of achievement are and and that's to say I mean with Tracey murle we won the Big 10 you know now I you know that that's a whole another debate that we didn't get an opportunity to get into the playoff but and and that's you know it's all debatable I get it um but that's not the case this year right so going into the scenario that you're going into now it is going to be I mean it it's interesting to watch college football it's interesting to watch pro football hell it's interesting to watch High School football when I have I've only won one championship in my entire career of playing ball that was my freshman year of high school and it was because we had a dope ass quarterback our quarterback was the dopest High School football player to this day I've ever I've ever seen with my own two eyes and we won it all we went undefeated and and that's the thing if you have a guy at that position you got a chance and and that's ultimately yeah that's how it gets defined that's what it comes down to so you know to to look at what Michigan was able to do back to the original Point JJ McCarthy LED that team in in ways that he needed to lead them I I think having uh a sense of when you need to to do what you need to do whether it be passing or even at times when he ran the ball and pulled the ball down and and and did what he needed to do with his legs he did it you know the back field with corm and those guys when they needed to put the game on their shoulders and on their back I'm sorry you can steal all the signs you want to steal if you can't cut off the corner or you can't stop them getting to the insides of of the tackles and getting up field and chunking out yards and wearing and and and chopping down the clock and getting and and getting points at the end of those those drives that they're just grinding it out on the ground I'm sorry you can't sit there and tell me that stealing signs is the reason why you couldn't stop those boys from running you at some point in time you got to set an edge you got to be able to get to him the guy was like I mean both of them what what's the back that's still there right right now like yeah both of them they they just so to me I take my hat off to how well Michigan played they they came together they played well early but they came together it was them against the world they rode it out and and for what it's worth they had the talent to go along with it I mean I you can't you can't place a a a cheaters hat on that you can't put an asri beside that team and what they were able to accomplish I I just don't see it that way yeah