Brady Quinn-Jim Harbaugh Punishment Shows Cheating Allegations Were Overblown

I I do I'm going to give Lee a second to look this up because I don't have the notes right in front of me in regards to the Jim Harbaugh punishment that was laid down yesterday we we've talked about this at length however we keep each as each day passes by this week we keep getting a little bit more a little bit more a little bit more the NCA has now handed down their punishment to Jim Harbaugh and again these are four offenses that were committed last season in regards to the Connor stallions Saga or controversy where he was Advanced scouting opponents which is illegal you can't Advance Scout with uh video footage which is what he's being accused of I will remind people you are in Game allowed to steal signals steal signs that's one of the reasons that's prompted the NCA to adopt the coach the quarterback where now both the offense and defense will have a designated player with the radio system very similar to what we see in the NFL so that should eliminate all of the uh the sign stealing that's been going on and it wasn't just Michigan however Michigan got caught um and and now we've we've kind of seen some of the punishment from that uh lee do you have the exact punishment that was strucken down on Jim Harbaugh who's now the head coach of the Los Angeles charges yes this is quote the punishment Harbaugh is sanctioned with a four-year what is called a show cause order the NCAA said during the show huh show show enough yeah yeah during this show C Master Harbaugh will be barred from all athletically related activities including team travel practice video study recruiting and team meetings at any NCAA school that employed him right for for four years uh years and that's that's more of the difficulty right if he came back to college football this would be a concern but he's got his National Championship he's now coaching the Chargers trying to win a Super Bowl I don't think he's going to be back anytime soon so um probably he can come back he just can't come back to like any type of official capacity and if he is hired during this four years uh he will be suspended for 100% of the first season of employment yeah so that's that's more of the concern there um thank you for the note there Lee thank you for looking that up I'm glad the Wi-Fi is working again in the studio here's here's the issue with all of this so there's a lot of fans out there um of of some of the rivals of Michigan that are celebrating this is their ah got you moment and I've been ad him in and telling people this has been going on at other schools too uh Conor stallion was was caught with his hand in the cookie jar and they're you know now punishing Michigan for this in most cases the NCA is always um reactive instead of proactive with these matters and they try to create punishment that really never hurts the individuals During the period of time in which whatever cheating is going on it's it only hurts the the future players the future coaches is but one narrative that has come out from all this Lavar is that you know Michigan had improved so much when Conor stallions was there it was all about Conor stallions and I just want to take people through the period of time coming out of covid where you know mishin didn't play Ohio State uh they had somewhat of a ho hum year um that was an interesting year I think for a lot of people who were around college sports because you know for example we were going out on location and there's no fans and it it was the oddest time of being out broadcasting live from a destination where you've got cardboard cutouts in the stand definely right I mean just the weirdest type of atmosphere you could imagine and you know we talked to coaching staffs about the challenge of getting the players up because you know whether or not people want to admit it like the the the fan the 12th man in a lot of cases plays a factor even helping to give you a little extra juice maybe creating that home field advantage but either way it creates the difficulty that creates that HomeField advantage and or advantage and you know that year was an interesting year because what what never gets talked about enough is the staff changes that Jim Harbaugh went through in in getting to where they became a team that was a national title Contender um that was one element of it the other element of it is JJ McCarthy I don't I don't think he gets his due as a college quarterback for the job that he did during his time there but I want to go back to well he is now and that's that's what I'll kind of get to but no I'm saying he's dealing in in practice right now from all reports I've seen on him so yeah the fact that when you get drafted in the first round I think that goes to show you like this is how the NFL feels about him as far as his talent his leadership skills all those tools and intangibles they're looking for so clearly there was more to it than just hey it's Conor stallion it's it's this advantage they've got from all this um I I go back and look at that the staff changes he made for example back in 2021 they bring in Mike McDonald Mike McDonald who ends up being their defensive coordinator does an unbelievable job during his time there's so much so that he ends up getting hired as the Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator after that and then now hired as a head coach for the Seattle uh Seahawks is so Mike McDonald who then leads the Jesse Min that leads to again this defensive performance that becomes up there with the top in college football the other thing is he moved on from Josh gtis Josh gtis who I felt like at times was holding back the Michigan offense and he you know brought in shiron Moore in that 2021 off season Shon Moore who eventually now becomes the head coach but was a co-offensive coordinator to begin with and during his time there became a co-offensive coordinator with Matt Weiss and they've you know you've seen that you know remarkable Improvement but also JJ McCarthy coming along as well and being able to lead them to an Essence almost an undefeated record with with the exception of one game and so as much as you want to make it about the Conor stallion Saga the truth and the reality of it is it doesn't have really anything to do with that one thing I mean as we talked about before with stallions he wasn't a part of this program at all in the second half of last year where they played their most important games versus Penn State versus Ohio State into the college football playoff to win a National Championship that had nothing to do with Conor stallion so I I'm just tired this like false narrative that's put out there about Michigan and I'm I'm like surprised I'm defending Michigan in this case but it's just it's I'm so tired of hearing it it's like look take the L's folks and if you think your team wasn't doing something whether it's through recruiting or whether it's through you know scouting and all this stuff you're you're probably wrong everyone's trying to bend the rules in some way that that's just the life in college football right now it is a very very crazy world the wild wide west that we're all living in I I don't know how you see it but I had the get that off my chest cuz I'm I'm so tired of hearing it and seeing it on social media and all these different bloggers and whatnot I'm glad you got it off of your chest um I'm not that passionate about it I I will say it it is intriguing to me to think that you could come to the conclusion that anyone could come to the conclusion that if you watch this Michigan team play that the sign stealing was the reason why they had a comp competitive Advantage I mean if if you're trying to say okay they they were in a position to put a Personnel grouping out there to give them an unfair Advantage I mean is that based off of stealing a sign or is that the people that are above looking down and supposed to have um the Personnel groupings that are coming into the game and different things like that how they're playing I listen I I watched in person the dismantling of one of the best defenses in college football last year and it was a run they they ran the ball and we could not Penn State could not stop the run she couldn't stop the run I I can't attribute success and look people can say well that was post that was post Conor stallions or scallions you know that was posted to him I don't care I don't care if you look at that Michigan team and the the run that they went on it was run heavy and it was play defense they had guys like Aiden Hutchinson on their their teams they they had what what was Rashad Barry was was it during that time period like they they've had some pretty phenomenal football players come off of that they have a phenomenal player number two that wears Charles's number right now they have some phenomenal players on the defensive side of the ball will Johnson will Johnson they they've had some amazing corm is an amazing running back the running back that backed him up he's an amazing running back their offensive line they they they shorted it up through the portal it it was just if if you're going to look at it from a critical standpoint they had a superior team Q they have had a superior team and and and I think there's a huge correlation between quarterbacks and and I know some people who are purist in college football hate hearing the comparison of projecting what they'll be at the NFL level but if you have a quarterback who is either a first round town or can play at the NFL level he's one of the best at college football I think we can agree upon that and if you look at the Run especially the recent run for Alabama and you you go through the Bryce Young Who won a Heisman Trophy was a first round pick number one overall pick you know you go to the m Jones the two Tong of vioa and Jaylen Herz was there for a period of time ends up being a high second round pick but I think you get my point Superior talent and maroy who got drafted AJ McCarron who got drafted like you go through the years of Bama success there's a correlation between the most important position in college sports in my opinion the quarterback and success so let me ask you this when was the last time okay the last time a quarterback who was recruited to michig michig got drafted oo before JJ McCarthy that's a good one prob o um was it the kid that didn't tie shoes no no I think you're talking about Alan Bowman who might by the way just just now um I think is still actually playing he's he's still quarterback for Oklahoma State but it was Chad Henny in 2008 that is the last quarterback they have had that was recruited there and drafted and that was he was a second round pick now people are going to say well what about Jake rudo in 2016 Jake rudo wasn't recruited to Michigan he transferred there he was originally an Iowa quarterback and then he eventually came for his final season and got drafted in the sixth round by the Detroit Lions but I have always said this it Michigan and and their return to Glory was going to have everything to do about finally getting a talented quarterback the second they got JJ McCarthy who finished his high school bow at IMG Academy and is now a first round pick was going to give them a shot at winning a national championship combined with the other pieces that they have but that to me I don't think win that job and he had to win that job somebody was was who was the other guy that was they were looking at kind of like it could go either way for a moment there it wasn't just McCarthy had the job and came in as this this like you know the franchise guy he had to win that job out um I can't remember I can't recall who the other quarterback was Bowman who's now at Oklahoma state did transfer in from Texas Tech he was one of the other quarterbacks they had a bunch of quarterbacks on their roster but to your point he had to win a quarterback competition he had to win it yeah he he ended up being the guy but to the greater point is just stop with this whole thing it was just Conor stallins it wasn't they had a first round quality drafted quarterback they had a 13 players drafted they did a good job recruiting developing they made staff changes that ended up leading to Mike McDonald who's now a head coach in the NFL uh other other coaches who Harbaugh took along with him to the NFL shron Moore who's become now a head coach it didn't have just to do with Conor stallions this was a a a university that under Jim Harbaugh kind of found its way after Co of what they needed to do in order to win and so as much as we want to sit there and use the punishment that's thrown down on Jim Harbaugh as a reason for you know this is the only reason they won a national championship it's just not true it's it's just not true you know they were able to build this thing up to really put all their chips in that that this past season and when they needed to the most without their head coach without the help of Conor stallions they showed up the biggest and the biggest games so please stop stop with with the stupid conversation around it only being about Conor stallion