Aaron Rodgers & Jets worry level, BUD List, Who wins: Josh Allen or Tua Tagovailoa?

Bills at Dolphins TNF preview live from New York it's the show that thinks tearing your Achilles is a big deal okay nobody else thinks it's a big deal the show that thinks week one of the 2024 season is the only thing that's ever happened in football and ever will happen in football to your Achilles now you don't look anything in same sure it's just a defensive scheme Mike Tomlin no Mike Tomlin did not affect how Kurt Cousins is moving around okay all right just telling you I'm right about it okay I'm right about Joe br's wrist we'll get to it what if we talk about the beginning of the show giving his takes in TR to get his Time come on let's go Roger The Killers let's go first things first today Roger says relax but why it might be freakout time if the Jets lose to the Titans which they're going to right I'm back meanwhile Joe burrow versus Mahomes at what was once known as burghead but is Joe healthy enough to take down Mahomes again no he's not and finally the most motivational segment in all of sports it's the bud list coming in number three on the bud list I'm not going to give the bud list away what is up with him you what is in that coffee yeah introduce us ask him who's on the bubble of the B stop stop yelling at me then alongside Nick R of Kevin Wilds Brew how many people are on the bubble of the bud list several about four really can you give us one Kurt Cousins oh wow cousins he almost was on it well he should have been on Tyreek hill Oh another one almost was on okay all right we're start well we're starting Bill's Dolphins I can go on and on well not just two more actually Josh versus Tua who desperately needs a win surprisingly Bill's underdogs in this one doesn't happen often here's what Josh pulled out not Josh Allen Josh our researcher fewest games as underdogs since 2022 the Mighty San Francisco 49ers in the Avengers of course going give that and then the bills that's counting tonight so Brew who do you got that's really interesting because all those teams I know this was the first thing that ran through Nick's mind all those other teams have been to the Super Bowl well yeah the other thing that mind is the Chiefs being underdogs seven times including I four of their last five playoff games but go ahead uh Bills win tonight without question without question the bill Bill simply put are a tough hard-nosed football team and the Dolphins until further notice they showed a little bit against Jacksonville but until further notice they're break dancers are you sure the bills are tough this year yep okay yep I think they're a tough team I I I mean I think they're leaning into the toughness they got rid of finesse players Stefan digs gavee Davis so we can run the ball more we got our two tight ends and all like they they're playing big big boy football and sure the Dolphins and I admit it they muscled up against Jacksonville but muscle up against a playoff team muscle up against a good football team and then I will put the break dancing analogy to rest once you if they win tonight no this is just the first step okay this is the first step that would have been some real Stakes no firstep they just it's unlike see first game means everything what we doing why we got 18 weeks we have watch playoff 18 weeks muscle up against a few playoff team and then we'll be done with the break daning analogy but you like Buffalo tonight I like Buffalo because Josh Allen owns the Dolphins yeah check out this graphic 11 and2 against the Dolphins look at the yardage almost 300 a game nice completion percentage pass ready Josh isn't always you know that efficient but again bring the Dolphins to town or we go visit them and then he goes off and the other thing is this Tyreek Hill who is incredible isn't incredible against the bills oh look at this look at these numbers and Tyreek won on the game last week against Jacksonville but seven games in the regular season and some of those are Chiefs games Chiefs yeah but only 52 yards a game only two touchdowns in seven games now I understand Buffalo's got a different defensive back field now of course but I still think they're going to be able to keep Tyreek in control and so Buffalo all no question so there are a lot of reasons Miami should win this game for I mean that Vegas thinks they will they're the favorite it's a short week and they're at home the bills are neither team got out of week one totally unscathed but the bills I think are more banged up particularly defensively and I thought where I was kind of pushing back a bit about are the Bills a tough team is defensively they didn't look very tough against Arizona in week one they got run on and you know if they throw a pass interference flag at the end of that game maybe the bills lose that game as EAS you know that was one of the ones we didn't talk so much about how close they were to maybe losing that game and they were down two scores 17 to3 or 17 nothing early in that game and from an emotional standpoint Miami has to win Miami if they are going to win the division you have to at least split with Buffalo not that they can't win in Buffalo but they this is their spot and buffalo owned them last year to bruise Point once when they were flying their highest coming off a 70o game the bills cracked them and then once when they were at their lowest after the Ravens had rolled them the bills beat them again so all those things say this should be Miami's game don't you're come on but I can't cannot pick Tua in this spot Brew brew did the Josh Allen angle I'm going to do the Tua angle because Tua in his career against this opponent is Dreadful Tua with whether it's because you see Josh Allen across the field whether it's because some of the games have been cold or whether it's because every year or two has been in the league the bills have been good to very good and he's not doesn't excel in those matchups here's the other thing I think Tua knows and the Dolphins know this is a very big game and in the biggest spots in his career Tua has failed to come through in each and every one of them we showed you this graphic going into the playoff game last year we have now updated it week 17 his first year as a starter Tua with the playoffs on the line they get blasted and he was bad the next year they need to win that week and the following week to make the playoffs they get blasted and he's bad last year they can be the one seed going into week 17 they get blasted and he's bad last year they can win the division if they win in week 18 they don't get blasted but he's bad last year in his first ever playoff game they get blasted and he's bad freezing and so yes and I understand it was cold and that the Chiefs game it was legitimately freezing but Wilds they paid this guy like he's great I know some smart football people and you picked them to go to the Super Super Bowl so they are not for the record I thought the smart people included they they are not some Plucky Underdog they are the literal favorite yep and I would argue they had the better performance of the two teams in week one I think they were playing the tougher opponent and they both had comeback victories but I thought my play in week one but you understand I thought he was Allan was dominant Allen was dominant but I thought the the Dolphins had the better game I just don't trust Tua in this spot Wilds okay well I do but I'm on thin ice okay that's true I'm a Patriots fan you on thin ice I'm Ain ice you got him winning the division that's right I have I have going to the superow going to the Super so what are you on thin ice for cuz I'm on thin ice I'm out here fishing on thin ice okay with the dolphins I Believe In Tua okay here's I went through tua's last 10 games who he won and who he beat and who he lost to he beat Aiden oconnell yeah he beat Tim Bole he beat Sam Howell yeah had that win against uh the cowboys that was big that Dak win and then the prince here's who he lost to momes twice Lamar Josh and an odd one to will Levis I think was in ten it was in Tennessee so the the the problem I have is I think he belongs in this group I think he belongs in the momes not the Mahomes the Lamar that next group the next group yeah really yes with Lamar Josh Allen and burrow well he leads the league in passing he they have he he captains the number one offense and the point the goal is to score points M that being said if they lose tonight my faith will be shaken it's like going to a restaurant tonight that you've heard a lot about you're like I really want to go I kind of believe in that chef and you go and you have a bad meal after the meal do you want me to come here like I still believe in that restaurant I'm going to say no and I'm going to say I'm not going again can I can I tell you something just to further cuz I love when you bring up analogies I don't know that are coming and then I can kind of respond in real time I don't think that's the right analogy the bad rest You' been plent of urant I like the other Resturant and the food hasn't been good it's not time after time not quite it's a restaurant that all all week leading up to it folks have been like I wouldn't trust that Chef I wouldn't and you're like not only do I trust him I think he might be one of the two best chefs in the world and and you know what I'm going to have my wedding reception at that restaurant and then you show up you have a mediocre meal and day in September and you're like cancel it all no you can't you you already ignored everyone's advice and said I'm not a fantasy football guy I trust the numbers here are the numbers so one football game in September shouldn't shatter your confidence well it will okay well okay my confidence will be shattered If he if he if the list becomes moles twice Lamar Josh twice and will Levis for no reason you I need to have him if he's who I think he is today's the day you have great you the running backs are are a little bit banged up that's not great uh Jaylen Ramsey a little bit banged up it is what it is Buffalo traded their entire team in the off season we should be able to make it work you're at home it's at night so the weather's not really a thing but I need two it to win if not I'm abandoning ship what if he plays well and they lose 35 32 or something like then I think you can stay on I'll stay on we'll tune in tomorrow to see what two is excellent and their defense just can't stop them then I I think that is oddly less concerning than if they win and two is awful if two you know what I mean if they win he might be all typically awful in these games and this he was and I like him he was 17 of 27 for 173 yards he threw a killer interception to end the game yeah we all saw it why I haven't miss the playoffs you haven't in the Super Bowl that was last year but when I when I say something from last year you brought up from last year I didn't read those stats you just read those stats I said I one of your guys you're like yeah it's a brand new year I'm sorry are we doing the last year you brought up the stats not me I'm saying the point you made go let's can we go to Joe burrow please wristatch whoop whoop whoop I'm right about this Joe B responded to the viral video of him gingerly holding a gatorade bottle and moving his surgically repaired wrist that no quarterback has had worked on the same injury I can't even pronounce the ligament here's burrow dismissing everything take a listen your wrist isn't preventing you from throwing any throws that you've thrown in the past no absolutely not wind of all the water bottle discussion about how you Pi water bottle the G uhuh what did I do apparently it's just the way you picked it up that they uh they said might something wrong I picked it up weird yes did you I don't know I drank water I don't can't say I've seen that or uh know what anybody's talking about don't believe you uh Jo bro he the gu's online uh week one versus the Patriots pass the sticks four for8 4 for8 for 59 y short of the sticks 17 for 21 for 105 yard is anyone worried about Joe listen I I have found the Joe burrow commentary the last 72 hours bordering on hysterical and not bordering on but just full-blown ludicrous there has been so much where is this energy for Joe that we have for Lamar that we have for Josh Allen which is a lot which yeah it it's a would be a lot like if just pick a guy Kevin Durant struggles in a playoff series and they're like where's the energy you have for Joelle embiid for Kevin Durant like well they're different guys with different histories and that matters in how we talk about him Joe burrow is a spectacular quarterback that is his really only weakness when healthy is he is somewhat physically limited he doesn't have the strong EST arm he's not the most agile he's not the strongest like he is able to achieve at a super high level despite the fact he's probably around League average as far as measurables which is why he is a guy that if he's not close to 100% looks terrible his Capal is a little banged up he can't play well if Wilds is right that his wrist is legitimately still hurt it shows up but this idea that is being propagated online and by other talk show hosts oh he's been bad for 2 years is a lie it's nonsense we had a conversation on this show last year going into the game he h his wrist could he win the MVP of the league because after the opening four weeks last year once his calf got healthy un this is what he did what he did weeks 5 through n oh he looked like the best quarterback in the league and that was coming off a 2year stretch where we can show you what he did he was the second best quarterback in the league so do I think it's when people are like why aren't we doing this why are we giving Joe burrow more margin better than we give Lamar or we give Josh Allen at times because we have seen Joe burrow win in big spots and play great in big spots that those guys haven't we have seen Joe burrow go into Josh Allen's house in the playoffs out playing when Josh laid an a we have seen Joe burrow have two playoff runs better than any one playoff run Lamar has had that's why that is what you earn by but it is clear listen am I worried about him if his wrist is really still hurt he will not be good I and do I think we have overrated Joe burrow do I think that like oh time for the receipts on Joe burrow I think people are idiots I think he's one of the clearly one of the best quarterbacks in the league brew and has been for the last four years well the cuz one of the comments made is he's living off that Super Bowl one of the reasons he's living off the Super Bowl appearance is because he's only had two fully healthy seasons and in both of them he got to the AFC title game and one of them he got to the Super Bowl and did do what almost nobody can do which is beat Mahomes particularly in Kansas City all right and we're still very close to that time he's only played four years and two of them were he so look eight years from now if he has not gotten to another Super Bowl then he won't be living off that and he'll be getting criticized and ripped right but it was so recent and he hasn't been healthy that that's why he's living off of that and he does get a pass for that but I would to answer your question I'm a little bit worried I'm a because the we have to face it Joe burrow is frail all right I'm I'm thinking of him now like Anthony Davis and I think he's better like at his game than Anthony is his as great as right like as when he's healthy he's gonna be great but I always have to bake in at the back in the back of my mind but is he gonna be healthy and I mean we are already I the risk I I think you make a little sense because he clearly was you know doing something with it throughout the game and then didn't have a great game so I do have to bake that in for Joe burrow look I think this game Nick is big they CLE cly know it's big it's it's against Kansas City your rival and he's played great as you know against the chief the last guy game against him he had two interceptions in that playoff game but out for the most part look at these numbers against the Chiefs so if he goes out there and really lays an egg then you can either say dude is banged up like he's just not himself you could I guess chalk it up to he struggles in the first two weeks but there will be concern either way about burrow if they can lose but if he doesn't play well at all then it's gonna be a problem okay if he's healthy I I don't think he's healthy just the way he was moving around if he's healthy three things have to be true one the Patriots are awesome because they just beat a healthy Joe burrow at home it's week one hold on go ahead I want to hear the rest of them all I'm just say he's one and eight in in the first two weeks in his career okay but the game the game I'm understand that I'm trying to have like I I think game one's it did matter no it did matter it's not everything but but it has to we can't just be like it's we cuz next week we're going to be like it's week two no that's fine we're going be in a spot I want to hear the three one the Patriots are awesome which maybe they are two they had maybe they just had a horrible game plan where Joe Bro is going to turn into like check down Charlie and just and not throw down ball down the field and three they've got no chance to beat the Chiefs if they're losing to the Patriots at home and then they get a wellrest Chiefs in their Building without it's still without T Higgins but that so that's where so I and we can if we want to stay on this for a minute we can do the chief stuff later that's fine the we have a bulletin board Edition but we can do that later in the show we got plenty of time this I I feel like we need to have a recognize week one matters it's important yes it is also all of NFL history tells us not necessarily indicative of anything that's going to happen the rest of the year and that we do that like this idea that it has to be so binary of either the Patriots are great or they had a terrible game plan or the Bengals can't beat the Chiefs we saw the Cowboys last year look absolutely Unstoppable the first two weeks of the year then Layon EG against Arizona two and three to one I'm talking and I also think we have to put all of the quarterback performances in week one the great get extra credit and the bad get less negative Credit in the context of the whole league struggled quarterbacking except for Five Guys like that that the 100 what did he have 150 yards in this game The League average I think was like 165 well Caleb dragged a lot of it well no but so even the Caleb thing like no but the and so is it possible that burrow is less than 100% the Patriots defense is maybe a little better than brew and I expected maybe what you expected the Bengals struggle early in the year all of those things it doesn't have to and all of that can be true and it can mean that I think the Bengals are very Live this week the Bengals play the Chiefs tough this is their Super Bowl they're bringing they're opening their stadium for people to watch it like it's a Super Bowl like I just I don't think it has to be as black and white as you're laying it out to be I think it is totally in play week one's legitimate and the Patriots end up with four wins and the Bengals end up really good like that's possible we see that over last year the Jets beat the bills in week one without Aaron Rogers and it wasn't really indicative of anything for either of those teams maybe I I I don't know go ahead go well I thought we saw the we saw the Lions beat the Chiefs lions were real the lions are going to play gritty football and the Chiefs are going to drop the ball and it happened the whole time we see Josh Allen lose to the Jets uhoh Josh Allen is willing to give away a game with his with his that we already knew but that was but that but yes but then we we also saw plenty of things last year in week one that did not end up being the case all throughout the entirety of the Season we know that n hold on to it hold on to it hold on to what you're a Patriots fan hold hold on to week one it's going to be the your highlight of your season for the Patriots until week three when we beat up the Jets are is Brew already done with the Jets next on first things first and Sirius XM brw I'm sorry I got mad at you for the first time in the show's history hey guys it's Nick Wright and I Worried about the Jets? Is the NYJ defense their biggest issue? love to track whether I'm heading out for work vacation or maybe just dropping into Kansas City to see a Chief's game or go to our annual parade I'm always looking for the best places to stay and that's why I turn to Airbnb anytime I stay in an Airbnb I'm reminded how great of an idea it is to Airbnb your own home while you're away maybe you yourself have stayed in Airbnb before and thought you know what I could easily turn my space into an Airbnb now that football season's back lots of fans are going to be traveling to catch the game in your local city you could Airbnb your home or extra room and make some extra money while people are in town for the game whether you use that money for tickets to go cheer on your favorite team or for something else entirely your home might be worth more than you think find out how much at airbnb.com host welcome back to the show Greg is here with a double breasted suit Aaron Rogers 0 and one and and granted he looked mediocre but hey it was 49ers so Rogers broke out a remix of one of his famous slogans take a listen I think we always got to stay relaxed it's a it's a long season I think at times people think the season is like you're out in the prairie or the desert and you're wandering around trying to find water um but it's more like a nice slow Bolero you know we're just swaying with the music and and uh reacting to whatever comes through uh comes to us and through us and just trying to uh not get too high with the highs or too low with the lows great analogy I used that yesterday oh you did oh thought it was going to be another geography must be a football thing okay my bad this is the best question on the show by jets are in Tennessee against the frisky Titans if they lose are you abandoning your AFC East pick well let me say that if you kept watching the clip he was clearly Aaron Rogers pleased with that Bolero metaphor oh cuz you could see it at we didn't show it but he clearly was like like looked like he was he really saiding something but to answer your question I can answer your question oh what a phony no no because the thought of Aaron Rogers and the Jets losing to Will levice and the Titans has not even crossed my mind it has not even crossed my mind the Chiefs losing to the Bengals has crossed my mind yeah Dallas losing to New Orleans has crossed my mind Buffalo losing to Tua well their under has even crossed my mind this game has not cross my mind so I can't entertain that foolishness because I'm telling you the Jets will beat the Tennessee tit like I'm saying something the Tennessee Titans might be the worst team in the league they looked frisky well they got some I I said Chicago they got some names and stuff but still here's the deal after that debacle in San Francisco uhhuh the Jets defense is going to be on high alert like they are coming out to prove a point cuz they did look bad they did get run over by a second team running back all right so they're going to go out there and want to prove a point and we know they have the Personnel to do it offensively Rogers was mediocre like you said Garrett Wilson didn't look all that great and you know I like him and Bree Hall obviously didn't look great so those three I think are going to step up and they're going to send a message so I I can't even find can I say something just real quick a l i have two quick points to make first one is this it is really a either great thing or awful thing that you don't gamble because you because maybe it's maybe it's awful because you could make a ton of money but in the first segment of the show you treated the bills and I agree with you but I'm gambling on the game like they're 10-point favorites over Miami when they're underdogs and right now you're talking about a team that Vegas says has a one in three chance of losing like it's one in 100 like it's unfathomable that's first point second point is this any and this for the both this side of the table you know what this might be for you as well I'm not sure anybody any pre-season prediction you make that could be or you generically the generic you the that one makes okay that could be abandoned after 2 weeks wasn't a real pick and I'm looking at you I'm looking at you about the Dolphins who were your Super Bowl team I'm looking at you at the Jets about the afcs I'm looking at you with the Falcons and the NFL I'm looking at all three of you guys then why didn't we do predictions week if after two weeks we're going to be like well I don't believe it anymore you got Caleb all the way the on the mountain and guess what I ain't moving after two weeks cuz you're Mr consistency right and we could use more how many weeks take you to move we'll see can I say quickly before Greg goes before Greg goes cuz I want to defend my prediction chops all right in week one I was four and one against spread on the odd and last year I set a show record a network record no here on that what I get nine straight upset alerts or something like that 10 upset alerts so I'm just saying at the end of the year you picking n i could be rich if I wanted to gamble go ahead sorry well hey I'm jumping this Jets if they L you already jumped on why even do prediction this week thank you let me explain something what the go ahead if they are to lose to the Tennessee Titans then I look at the remainder of their schedule Thursday night they would have to go play against the Patriots they already have a history of losing to the Pats and then you go to the Bron I no longer have faith that these are guaranteed wins they lose if they are to lose but are they going to lose I I that's what I'm saying I don't know if they're going to lose but if they lose am I jumping yes because that would put everything that I believed that they would be into question period I don't care how you feel about predictions I don't care how you feel about my pre-season predictions if I see something I'm going to do something about it exactly okay that's what I said about I mean that opens up a whole another can of worms for the show I mean I mean you know what I mean I I kind of like it we're not stuck to our pics I love it actually always that way hey guys can I tell you life I really really hope people weren't watching these last 5 minutes I it was bad for the future of the show can we do this topic Robert Salah my God promised his defense would get quote stuff uh fixed after giving up eight consecutive scoring drives will Levis is no Brock party uh so he should bounce back for the defense right here's Robert Salo the bounce back um thought meetings were really good this morning uh walk through uh was the initial walkthrough was good we'll have another one today um look it's not the first time that that we've gotten punched in the mouth here on defense and and I feel like we've always responded all right we've actually been bad a lot uh the defense a concern oh yeah the biggest concern the big the big this the biggest concern well I no I think he's their biggest concern um but I think after coaching and the coaching staff it is a fair question to ask uh how good is this defense how good is it because I don't think they have passed rush and they lost 45% of their sacks from last year that's the sixth most in the league the other teams that thought they were contending that were in that boat that lost more than that Philly brought in the their pass rusher Huff Houston brought in denell Hunter to upgrade there from Jonathan grard they thought they brought in someone and H reick but he's never reported I don't see a pass rush for the Jets and do I think last year's Jets defense was a touch overrated I've only been saying it for months they were 12th in the league in points and every was like oh the pick sixes they allowed two defensive touchdowns all year two the two the the Chargers who struggled on offense all year scored 27 the bills scored 32 Miami scored 34 and 30 Washington scored 28 Cleveland scored 37 this defense has some great players no doubt but do I think it was ever going to be the best defense in the league no and I think it has to be a top five defense for them to have a chance and to the point Brew brought up earlier it's not that I dislike Bri breee Hall and Garrett Wilson it's that Bree Hall has four hundred yard games in his career four he also has four games of 10 plus carries and fewer than 25 yards I think I do I think he's just known commodity no and I think Garrett Wilson is around the 10th best receiver in football so that's really good but it's that can't carry your team so they have a lot of concerns well the question was is it the biggest concern for the Jets and and I don't think it's the I still think the biggest concern for them is which Aaron roders are we getting and then will Garrett Wilson who has been great his first two years and Bree Hall step up to the next level when stuff is expected of you now and when your teams play an important game so I think that's their biggest question mark But the defense has a question mark in that will they be consistent because you mentioned last year when they're 12th in scoring but third overall in defense they did have some games where they gave up a ton of points then they had some games they held Buffalo to 16 they held Houston to six I know that CJ they injured him they had held the Chiefs to 23 so they they are and then they they uh for the record that was really 30 remember Mahomes was like mahes kned at the one well the was 23 they held Philadelphia to 14 so they're they were up and down even last year when they were good defense so now they do have to be more consistent and that's what I do want to see that their defense is the biggest concern because it's the most it's their most valuable asset like it's what they have to lean on it's it's all we've ever talked about this team when we talk about them it's the reason why we believe that they're they have the potential to be as good as they could potentially be if Aaron is anywhere close we're not saying Aaron has to be MVP but if this defense is porest then they have no shot they have absolutely no shot to make any noise and when you talk about the things that you mentioned the pass rush that impacts the back end and if if if was anybody watching that game the backend wasn't Chase Daniel of The Facility ( says that Kirk Cousins is still recovering from his Achilles injury that great either I like DJ Reed I like s Gardner but if you don't get a pass rush it causes you to have to do things that you ordinarily wouldn't do that means I got to grab a little bit more I got to cover a little bit longer all these things matter in a Tennesse team that can run the ball that will run the ball BR like so and you can't stop if you can't stop the run you gave up so much rush yards like if as as a player as a coach when you look watch the film going into another week the first thing you identify is how can we exploit them how were they exploited last week you know what the teny Titans are going to do and you like turn around and run the ball they got will Le at quarterback you like Pard more than Jordan Mason and I like L more than I mean I do like per but he and their offensive line has improved Tennessee's but still no they're not winning this game should Falcons fans be worried this is why Wilds wanted to lead the show with this oh it's a big deal check in on the exciting NFC South where everyone seemed high on the Falcons a lot of people had them going to the playoffs had them going deep into the playoffs coach all four of us not me Big Show new coach new weapons new defensive acquisitions new Achilles repair that's not good here's Chase Daniel from FS one's the facility who tweeted the Falcons wearing pistol shotgun 96% of their snaps that's not good take a listen he's a right foot up forward what does a right foot up forward do to you chase it gets you away from the line of scrimmage faster because you're pushing off that right foot all right this game I don't know what change I don't know if it's offensive coordinator Zack Robinson new to from the Rams he went over he's the offensive cor now for the Falcons he's a straddler he is is literally the horse right here he is in the pocket like pton mating so in my opinion what I saw was I saw no push off to get away from the pressure he doesn't look comfortable and when I say strle he can't push off and get away from the line of scrimmage I know what it is the Achilles jaase I'm no longtime quarterback in the NFL but I'm going to say it's the Achilles Greg I will second that it's definitely the Achilles look Kirk is not 100% And I I believe they know that this was going to take some time but they don't want to put their young rookie Michael penx Jr in the game and and pretty much PR obliterate the the idea of them actually paying Kurt Cousins to come down there and play and you taking a first round draft pick at quarterback like this is going to be a work in Pro progress hopefully he can get through it I'm not sure Kurt Cousins has never been a a outside the pocket extend the play type of a guy anyway that's why I think it's going to be okay yeah and so like he can he can work around this I I just think he needs to start to trust it and anytime you have a injury like this it takes a time it takes a bit of time for your brain to actually trust well I can actually do this and for you to actually just let go and play so I'm I'm confused at why this is a story we knew Kurt Cousins popped his Achilles almost two months after Aaron Rogers did we didn't expect Aaron roders to be a 100% functional week one so we don't expect Kurt Cousins to be if the question is too early to give up on the Falcons obviously yes I don't think anyone thought man Kurt Cousins in week one is going to look unbelievable like I didn't I didn't so this is what I don't understand because you're the one sounding the alarms do you think it won't get better cuz we all agree if he plays like this all year they're cooked you think that the that his Achilles rehab and repair it's just static now this is just who he's going to be because I don't so I I think that I need to be proven otherwise for Achilles injuries it starts my Baseline is a presumption of you'll never be the same and I have to until you show me that you are the same I start here other people say you will be you're eventually on the path to being the same I don't view him that way I haven't since Greek mythology so okay I if I just made real quick I I don't look at his this is going to sound silly I don't look at his Achilles as one of the eight most important parts of his body for him for what he does like I I think that because of his style I look at that Aaron is used to having the mobility using it utilizing it Kirk is a statue as is so I think that not going against Tomlin not going against TJ watt not having the Steelers have your snap countdown he'll look much better this week and will look better throughout the year here's why I'm concerned for picking you know we all picked them to win that division get to the playoffs they got Philly this week that defense stinks slippery grass I look Jordan love and the Packers got a good offense so I Phil Le I think he's goingon to be good and I think that's a Lamar Jackson on Week 1 vs Chiefs: "Going to do whatever it takes to win" tough win then they got Kansas City so they're likely to start 0 and three so what their hope has to be and I won't jump off but what their hope has to be is because then they start playing the division teams New Orleans and stuff Kirk works his through these first three weeks when you probably lose he works out the Kinks and can get back to the old KK cousins that's what has to happen but they going to be 0 and three right but when we all picked them to win the division we thought they'd be 1- two after three weeks that's my point so it's not like 0 and three you know what I mean we thought they were going to probably lose to Philly and Kansas City if we thought Kirk was fully healthy I had the bake show for the record you keep on saying we all I don't trust the killes okay at all in fact Greg and I have the bake show I had B show in the playoffs not one in the division and Greg flip-flopped after I thought you picked Atlanta he got new info he flip flopped yes coming up next the most motivational segment in all of sports it's the bud list there was a lot of people on the bubble of the bud list only got down to the top three and it's excellent uh right now Lamar ran 16 times in Arrowhead lost to the Chiefs either by an inch or after he missed three consecutive touchdown throws here he is on his running strategy that's true though isn't it yeah I respect it okay Mar is running the ball 16 times like if you had to do it every week would that is that sustainable do you think uh I don't know I'm not trying to find out but uh you know we got Derrik Henry got Justice Hill those guys um but you know I'm going to do whatever it takes to win and and that type of game sometimes you got to do what you got to do BR you like that answer I do I do I mean I think that what we saw against the Chiefs was because it was the Chiefs and he had heard for a month if not months you're one and four against Mahomes you can't beat Mahomes look at the AFC Championship game and he clearly was on an adrenaline rush and all that I don't think he's gonna and it it hurt him probably with the throws late in the game where he missed him because he was just so amped up so he's GNA have to deal with that but I think in regular games he's going to do what he needs to do which is slide get out of bounds Greg I love the way he looked running though the only thing I didn't like is him running in the people the end of the plays yeah but but he I mean he looked as fast as he did earlier in his career and so yeah I I like that answer um and and he even mentioned Henry and Hill so yeah I think he's gonna get it yeah I love I love the answer look I I love the mentality I just didn't like the approach like you just alluded to it like if you're going and sometimes when you're that type of player and you you instinctively react to like the atmosphere or the magnitude of a game you just you just go and Lamar history has shown us like he doesn't slide he doesn't truly run out of bounds he he if he runs out of bounds he tends to take that one extra step towards the defender and possibly get put himself at risk those are the things I don't like if you're going to be running at this volume 10 plus carries 16 carries a game you're going to put yourself in harm way that many more times all season long and he also in this press conference said uh he didn't he doesn't get the calls other quarterbacks get and I didn't look at that as ref blaming I look at that as accurate telling of History like late hits retir he's talking about that that when late hits or or hits to the that he doesn't and I think I don't know that week one against the Chiefs was a good piece of evidence for that but I think over the course of his career is 100% true that it's very clear to me watching football that refs treat mobile quarterbacks differently than pocket quarterbacks they just flatly do kind of have to cuz they're like running back yeah but even on plays they should be protected they're not protected as much I just think there's sub so I thought I think Lamar is correct on that on that point I Chiefs fans got mad so he was blaming the refs I didn't look at it that way at all uh I have it just something I want to throw out to you guys this is their home opener they're playing the Raiders with Garder menu I would if I were Todd monin John harau like Lamar let's just have a zero run first half and see how it goes derck Henry run Broussard's Under Duress List you throw the ball let's have and let's listen if it's tight if in the second half it's like oh Raiders are better than we thought do whatever you want but let's let's try to come out of this game as unscathed as possible after you kind of overdid it in week one like I I think you can do that though like because I think how about zero designed runs for L okay maybe maybe yeah that that if he wants to scramble so be it but zero most of his runs against the chiefs were scrambles but I mean the whole talk in the off season was Lamar you abandon what you do best so I don't think you go back there but yeah you understand I mean you're playing the Raiders you're more than a touchdown favorite see if you can do it with Derrick Henry and throwing the ball that's just like I know it was like a strategy question but that was like a big discs to the Raiders my gosh listen playing the Raiders pun on fourth and one from the opponent's 43 and a 6 game I don't respect you live from New York it's a show that appreciates the support from Raven's Twitter can't tell him not I love it it's the second hour on first things first today ooh tonight Josh versus Tua why Brew believes in Josh but considered retiring the break dancers meanwhile bad news for those fellas I know they're looking at like we got to figure out meanwhile burrow says he's fine I'm not so sure can he Notch another win against momes but right now it's time for the most motivational segment in all of sports it's also time to read a little bit of your mail we just get a ton of mail you you thinking the digital world yeah but no man we're still getting real letters without an address well that one you didn't even take the time to post me oh someone didn't take down put the address on her I think that when the Postmaster General goes to Ryan and Bryan's house he knows they know where it's heading okay dear Wilds love the show well thank you looking forward to the new segments for the new year which segment has the lead right now the dud list or the Trevor Lawrence trash hour cheers Ryan and Brian well I had no creative input on the Trevor Lawrence trash hour and I'm really okay it's now time for the Trevor Lawrence trash hour that is something that Nick made on his own no you guys made it I just said it happens so often you might as well have animation I like the bud list cousin the dud list and Dusty told me he also it's time now for the dud list that also not does not work if we're going to do that we'll just go back to also that's we that was just hubs' voice that was we didn't even get that professionally done that's it that's it Cowboy Brew Popp it out of nowhere can I ask you a real question before we do the a real question that we should probably say for after the show or pre-show meeting I thought you didn't like cowboy Brew so I retired it and then once it went away it pops up all the time still thinking it's coming coming do you wanto no I mean the real one where I had the muscles yeah not that one that's just not accurate I think you just W the one with the muses the saying all right all right number three Aaron Rogers Aaron you brought this on yourself oh all right you brought it on by your opening press conference with the Jets talking about how lonely the Superbowl trophy looked you brought it on yourself by having not hack it as your offensive coordinator you brought it on yourself by skipping mini camp and you brought it on yourself recently by telling pundits and fearful Jets fans to jump off the bandwagon and never come back it's tough talk so the only way to follow up tough talk is with tough play from you all right you got to go out and be very very good against the Tennessee Titans Now unlike Kevin Wilds I'm not asking for 300 yards how about 250 you haven't done that in your last 10 games so go out there and deliver against the Tennessee Titans because if you lose to the Titans there will be a media frenzy unlike you've ever seen there will be a blitz cre of media criticism that is going to be crazy if you lose to the Titans but I don't think that's happening Aaron Rogers I believe in you go out there and do what you haven't done in a while have a great game all right at number two Caleb Williams I mean rough start young man but I'm not jumping off the bandwagon after just one game it was your NFL debut sensible people you know like those that weren't saying you were already the sixth best quarterback in football I never said he was the sixth he was on the second or third tier he might have been fourth who knows okay there you go all right most of us knew there would be growing pains and there certainly were but the great thing about the NFL it moves fast which which means there is always the opportunity for Swift Redemption and what a better way to redeem yourself than on the Sunday night Standalone game everybody's going to be watching all the other team everybody you're facing a playoff team and you're facing the guy that everyone is comparing you to CJ stra my goodness you come out of there looking good that's Redemption but here's some advice cuz I want to motivate you Caleb don't get caught up in the one-on-one match up if CJ is cooking throws for 300 some odd yards a few touchdowns don't worry about it your job is just to go out there and do your job continue to grow and improve and try to help your team win do not get caught up in the stat war with CJ stra Caleb I believe in you all right at number one Wilder man Tua I like Tua it may not sound like it cuz I speak truth all right I'm a truth teller and here's the truth Tua it's time for you to step up to step up from only beating tomato cans to step up from only beating in the AFC East the drgs the Jets yeah the Patriots ever since Tom Brady walked out of the door all right you got to beat some good teams now you got to beat some playoff teams all right you have the money you have the receivers you have the running backs you have the coach what what else is there you in fact you're going to have warm weather tonight 80Β° down in Miami even though it's at night and here's the thing you even mentioned it there's a narrative out there about you and your dolphins that you can't beat good teams all right in the narrative tonight cuz if you don't every time you guys play a playoff team or a good team that narrative is going to be in your head it's not only going to be on the lips of the media it's going to be in the back of your head and those of your teammates so T go get him oh jeez do you believe just go get that's a tough ending wow go get them wow tough one I'm the bud list tough I'm going to add to this bud list and I'm actually going to be motivating because I believe in this guy that I'm going to add to the bud list and the person that I'm going to add to the bud list is the head coach of the Green Bay Packers Matt lafl wow yes Matt laflor I'm adding you to the but list because you don't have any Jordan love you no longer have Aaron roders we we still expect greatness the yes absolutely the floor is yours and this is why I say that there no way we watched we watched last week this this Colts defense get run on by Joe Mixon in that Houston Texans offense you went out this off season and got Josh Jacobs one of the better backs in all of football he had a great outing in week one against the Philadelphia Eagles it's all laid up for you we see Kyle Shanahan we see Shawn McVey Andy Reed it's like it doesn't matter who they have under Center doesn't matter pretty much who they have on the field their system is what makes everything go do you truly have the system to make everything go I believe so Malik Willis No One Believes that he's a guy that you can win games with for the rest of the season for the duration however if your system is Right which you believe in it you said it this week you're going to prepare the same way we always do whether it's Jordan love whether it's Malik Willis well you better believe the lambo faithful are going to be expecting a win and the floor is yours Mr Matt laflor get it done look you delivered it well but one word unfair what with with Malik Willis he's supposed to win these games I mean serious if they they they got a good running game but if you're no threat to throw you know this so I'm glad you said this really quick please it's about coaching you know what you got you actually wanted to bring him in to work with him now you get an opportunity to showcase how great of a coach you are lean into what he does well provide him with packages that he can actually execute and get it done I believe in you okay wow that's really well done Greg I like the Colts minus 3 a lot this week by the way uh all right weird spot for me Wilds why well what's my job on the during the bud list well you've named yourself the media on buds I'm again am I want my bud list again okay so that that is true and I owe you guys an apology and I thought I gave it on Monday but I'm the sports media on budsman and I don't know if people have been paying attention to sports media this week but there's really only one story to on bud and it is a story of you know social media gone wrong and when you're you know trying to maybe get a little too Instagram famous which is why I sadly have to put Kevin Wilds back on the bud list because his week one over reactions are far too much for us to handle a quick short list of them the Patriots are better than the bank and might win the division yeah there's number one number two Caleb was the wrong pick at number one no one said that no one said that I never said that in a million years okay let me ask you right now do you think the Bears made the right pick at number one yes oh I'm sorry okay I I think he's the third best quarterback in the world you know what I'll pull that one back Joe Burrow's wrist will never be the same this season I didn't I say that about a killing horrible have one reporter on the CH I'm sorry didn't you did you not want to plummet Down momes Mountain yes yeah yes based on week one may he can't throw the ball past the stti speaking of speaking of the Falcons the Falcons are dead and Kirks Achilles will never heal I don't know why you ask Achilles the Greek God how that worked out it's been an issue for thousands of years these are and all a sudden like we fixed it week one over reactions now listen while one over reaction called your Achilles heel in everything that happens from every industry and he actually got it and now he's dropping back okay I'm right about listen I could be proven wrong we'll see who wild is putting on the bud list and if that's a week one over reaction I don't know but I just feel like rkw is getting a lot of social media likes for these hot week one takes that aren't they just happened to be right here's what happened in last week's bud list if you remember cuz I had to look at it when I was looking for letters before I had to get letter from Ry BR he tore us apart oh yeah I got I got retroactively Furious watching the clip he's like you're going to be wrong contract Dak you have three more days until you guys get your paychecks pulled and we were sitting there like I think we're going to be right in any event any event who are you putting on the bud list this is a fair let me just Greg how many catches do you have in your debut in my debut in your debut oh man zero well that wasn't enough you should have targeted him got a Super Bowl so Kyler and Marvin Harrison here's actually think I have one thank you that's the same as Marvin Harrison Jr and your dad wasn't in the league that's the thing you would had more he did drop one okay so he had two he had no he dropped one he he caught one he had three total targets here's his numbers from week one there was also Dan Orlowski did a good job breaking down the same clip I sent to you Greg that the broadcast looked like he was wide open but it was actually was covered by the time Kyler kind of moved to the other side that being said it would have won the game if he was able to get in the ball Kyler had a quote that was taken a little bit out of context that it's not my job to get him the ball gon's like ah Marvin feels disappointed the bottom line is this they're not treating Marvin Harrison Jr like Justin Jefferson level or old Jamar Chase level like you know what I'm going to give him a shot even if he is covered and that's what I think you have to do with the guy to give him a chance right away out of the box now here's the problem playing the Rams the Rams are obviously going to try to take him away just like they took am man R st Brown away uh against the Lions who had three catches for 13 yards and when Dan Campbell was asked about it Dan Cel said yeah I mean we tried we did it didn't work out so now the same thing's going to happen with the ram so it's a little pre pre uh a pre-bd list for next week if again he only has three targets if again he only has one catch if we're going into week three he's like man I got two catches for 20 yards I'm supposed to be the Balo draft pick it's it's under duress but I still believe in them wow you got a chance my my my week too touchdown six seven yards that's what I'm saying see we bounce back bounce back I I I think this is the year for them when not much is expected and they're in a tough division to try to work that combination that you Kyler and Marvel go just thr it to him just thr it to him see what he can do the the the other can we stay on this just for 60 seconds the other thing was that tracking data said he never got above 16 mph at any point in the game and it was Seth Walder had it it was one of the slowest he was his top speed was slower than like 98% Who wins: Tua or Josh Allen? / Worried about Bengals? of all receivers in the League last year during a game was he getting like jammed no so and so he couldn't figure it out because he was fast in college you know what I mean and the and he did run some go routes so it was a weird it was a weird week one but I've seen the guy play like this is I feel honestly similarly to him I don't know about you brew that you about Caleb like I watched you be so great in college I'm just going to take week one and throw it away yeah maybe it's an underreaction Maybe no but just but I'm afraid he's going to have a bad week too three I'm sure they've talked about getting him the ball I know but I'm sure the Rams have talked about him not getting the ball a little tricky anyways I still have the Cardinal go in the playoffs that's the bud list an excellent bud list all over the place because y' didn't like my bud L that's all right was a great bud I thought it was a great like he was sad the dud throw in the said go get uh welcome back to the show Bill's Dolphins Josh Tua Tua needs a w here surprisingly the bills are underdogs in this one they rarely are media Darlings and Vegas yeah exactly right wild um Brew we know you have the bills I have the Dolphins you were torn oh I I no I mean I have the bills I know yeah Greg come on over come on over to the Dolphins you used to play for the Dolphins I did what do you got in this one I got the Dolphins Wow Let's Go wow and you the more I think about this it's I I liking this too when I was in Green Bay and we used to play the Detroit Lions the bills like we were the Packers we looked at this team and we just felt like it doesn't matter who you have it doesn't matter who we have at our disposal who's available we're better than you we're talking about what we doing when we get back to Green Bay what time we get back to Green Bay like that's how we look the bowling alley open if not screw that's that's kind of the approach of the bills with the dolphins and this year I just feel like like if there is you said it yesterday like it's kind of their season but it's like if you can't beat them this year in this game at home early in the season when there's still so much to be revealed about the bills that hasn't been we know the one thing they have is Josh Allen and you can't just minimize that I don't know if you ever beat them and that's why I'm picking the Dolphins they have more star power more Firepower you're playing at home you just got to get it done if you're the Dolphins so it it to me I thought there was one and I know Brew disagrees with me on this but I thought there was one referendum game in week one and it was Chiefs Ravens it was a the if the Ravens don't win this game it's going to be hard to say how they can win it but at least what they have going for him is it was in Kansas City you know what I mean it wasn't I looking across the entire slate this weekend to me there is one referendum game and it's this one which is and the Dolphins don't have that excuse of well we're on the road we'll get him when we play him at home and they have a lot of edges here the Dolphins have as good of a wide receiving core as just about anyone in the league the bill secondary lost pieces in the off season and teron Johnson is hurt that you know what I mean I mean that should help them they are on a short week that typically not so much lately but historically favors the home team they are the home team there's all the I thought Miami played a better overall game on Sunday than the bills did but Brew I'm with you because I just don't trust Tua against this opponent and I don't trust him in a big spot and I can just show the numbers very quick Tua against the bills yeah has played his worst football and this other one is to me the more flashing red siren about Tua I think these are arguably the five biggest games of his career it's not cherry-picking I know it feels like it is but week 17 of 2020 that was to make the playoffs they got blasted he was bad week 17 of 2021 they needed to win that week to stay alive for the playoffs they got blasted he was bad week 17 last last year that was HomeField Advantage p on the line blast didn't bad week 18 the divisions on the line and then of course the wild card game now maybe that's a he's not good late in the season graphic maybe that's what it is I look at it as a big game graphic so may you know maybe he dispels it here but I I just can't believe in the Dolphins against this opponent till I see him do it the bills going to go there oh no what's he doing that's what it's going to be what's that the Bills play big boy football they've leaned into that this year that was musling up that's what they going no they they going to push him around yeah oh until they prove otherwise and I'm I'm here for them to prove otherwise I gave them a little credit cuz they went down there and they played a tough hard fought game against Jacksonville who's okay but now you stepping up in weight class all right the bills have said we don't have Stefan digs anymore Keon and and khil we'll see what they become but we got two good tight ends we got a big quarterback that's fast and that can run the football and we got James Cook and we coming at you and I don't think the uh the Dolphins are ready for it and Tyreek the Dolphins weapon I know they got other ones waddling those guys but he struggled against the bills in the regular season Nicks right they have a new defensive back field so maybe it'll be different but some of these stats are from his time in Kansas City when he obviously had momes throwing to him and look at that just 52 yard a game only two touchdowns in seven games not even 10 yards of reception so and we've talked about Tyreek in in big games or against Great teams being able like to Chiefs being to be fair he did he did have a monster playoff game against them with Kanas City yes with Kansas cityas City right so I just think I'll be surprised I'm giving him a shot but I'll be surprised if Miami beats Buffalo Tua has to win Greg hear you if Tua loses are you okay with me switching my he picked them to go to the Super Bowl yeah were you okay with me ba bailing on that uh I wouldn't switch if they lose okay no not they wait no you telling him not s yeah I mean switching your Super Bowl pick is a significant they're my cut yeah a little bit you know a little bit we you will switch if they lose I will I will you know well you've already put in a contingency plan no my quarterback got hurt he might play this week Jordan love might play this he's not even I don't even he's not even he's not even Christian mcaffry running back huge game for Tua this is a hug they have other he'll have other moment I ask they need this hold on cuz I I want to and I'm not I promise you this is genuine I'm not being a jerk no I'm not because we do kind of have philosophical arguments about what is good quarterbacking and your argument is actually quite logical which is I don't know do they win and are their numbers good and my argument is often a little more esoteric than that I get that kind of you but I think often it actually is about this feeling right now which is it doesn't feel like You Believe In Tua it feels like you want to to and you think he deserves belief but there is something in exactly right okay I want people to believe in him because you think he's earned it yes he has earned belief but if he squanders the belief yeah it's like I'm the one not that I'm the only one like some hero but I'm I I'm supporting this guy and like now we're at the moment are you going to Crater yeah after after I can't listen to Mike McDaniel and Tua they're on the same page of like you know what the facts are the facts they've got our number and the bills run the AFC East until we prove otherwise that's a fair statement so even even the press conferences they're not like they've almost swing swung the pendulum too far to be like yeah good point like no this is our game we're going to win it's in their building it's on a Thursday they should their favorites you got to win this game they're going to too okay I think r no Bas Joe burrow not at all Joe burrow responded to a uh viral video of him gingerly holding a gatorade bottle and moving his surgically rep repaired wrist here's burrow saying no big deal take a listen your rist is in preventing you from throwing any throws that you've thrown in the past no absolutely not wind of all the water bottle discussion about how you water bottle G uhuh what did I do apparently it's just the way you picked it up that they uh they said might wor I picked it up weird yes did like I don't know I drink water I don't can't say I've seen that or uh know what anybody's talking about okay so a lot of gas in the press conference this is what I would say if I was there Hey Joe oddly you threw most of your balls it's gone you threw most of your balls behind the line of scrimmage short of the sticks short of the sticks and uh you threw very few balls long distance lot and then you were also moving your wrist weird are those two things connected yeah I would want to hear the answer to that so the question is are you worried about Joe I Greg I think that Joe burrow because of his physical limitations is hampered by injury more than almost any of our Superstar quarterbacks he doesn't have the strongest arm he's not the biggest guy he's not super athletic so if his calf is bothering him he's going to look terrible if wrist is you know what I mean far from being you know right he's not going to look right I think that is fair and I think it's a legitimate criticism I also think people have way overreacted to that what I've heard this week is Joe Burl's been bad for two years well okay if we're considering the 2024 season a year which there's been one game of then yes okay sure but even in that case it's not really true because last year he was brutal the first four weeks correct and then he turned it around not only he turned it around he was exceptional he was great the team was great he was awesome and then he got hurt again so injury prone injury concern sure and that was coming off by the way in my opinion a two-year stretch his second and third year in the league where I felt he was the second best quarterback in football only to momes mhm and so am Wilds sounded the alarm on Monday and I should have listened to him more because he was watching Patriots Bengals closer than anyone who wasn't paid to be there um and so he said that Joe was really bothered by his risk I think that is a concern I think anyone that is acting as if well even if he's gets healthy how good is he I think that is lunacy and I and I do think this will get better over the course of the year maybe I'm wrong I think it will yeah you got to be worried about Joe burrow because when he's been in the media we've been talking about him in correlation to being injured or overcoming an injury we haven't been able to talk about him in the light of which when he came into a rookie situation and Revitalize the franchise because of his performances his play and so to your point when I look at Joe I'm not concerned about is he a is he still an elite quarterback yeah he's still Elite he's just been injured the the last few times that we've seen him and he hasn't had a consistent run since 23 2022 where we've seen him just be healthy right like we just haven't seen that we haven't seen that Super Bowl year type of a Joe burrow at a level of consistency and so until we are able to get that you have to be worried because all we're getting as of late is a hampered Joe burrow to start the season last year and then you alluded to the 4 game win streak and he was fantastic and then he doesn't finish the season because of this risk injury that we are currently today talking about so you have to be worried about it and if Joe burrow is not healthy the Bengals have no shot he like let's be we look at look at the Packers and Jordan love when the quarterback is that good he elevates and all this talk about he doesn't make players better and all the like stop it like Joe burrow is he's a different he's a Difference Maker like he has us talking about the Bengals since he entered into the league a situation where most media members was like he should he he shouldn't go there he should he should play pull that car and not even go there like stop it you hit it on the head and start the the injuries are now a part of his story and I think of him now Greg like Anthony Davis in the NBA where if he's there he's G to be great but I always have to bake in now not quite kawh Leonard who I think is on a a level worse than even Anthony Davis cuz you know Kawai is going to be hurt Ka feels inevitable I don't I'm not saying no I agree I'm not saying inevitable one issue but I'm saying he is like Anthony Davis but it's it's always something it was a calf in practice we don't need the rist wasn't that that wasn't a football like we we remember we just saw him with the wrist yeah but then he did get hit in the game that game but it was already had the brace so he's just injury-prone now I will say this because I'm with you guys in that I think he's truly a great quarterback but he has had great weapons it's not a great franchise he went to a bad franchise and turned him around basically immediately but he's had Jamar Chase he's had T Higgins he had Tyler Boyd is a number three receiver Joe Mixon we saw how we know how good great weapons and bad offensive line yes he has had bad off but but great quarterbacks can you know work behind a bad offensive line with quick release and all that so I I'm not you know I'm not going James Jones on it I think he's still definitely a great quarterback but he has had weapons I think the issue is people I'm not saying you but there there are other lists even though I just subscribed to Mahomes Mountain there are other lists that put him in Lamar on the same footing or put him above Lamar well that's Mahomes Mountain okay and I think that Lamar fans or a lot of fans are saying hold on the guy was good for four games last year and my guy if you're Lamar guy won the MVP and then week one was this far away from being close to beating the world Champs in their building and the other guy was doing nothing against a team that we thought was going to be a bottom feeder in the league and it's still like ah you know it's okay he starts slow but Lamar Lamar can't throw like that came back around people don't like that so okay so I would let me address that real quick I know we're supposed to get to the Chiefs but let's just stay here just for another minute Lamar Jackson has been better than Joe burrow since this from 2023 week one to right now so for last season and this and this year right okay I don't think anyone would deny that Joe played five good games in that stretch and was hurt TW two different times and appears to and and this year I didn't think Lamar played great in week one but he played better than Joe played in week one so sure that's fine I don't think that inherently makes him a better quarterback and I also think that it it is there is a weird thing where everyone knows that what you have accomplished in the biggest moments while you were still in the prime of your career will hold a special value when you are being compared to players who haven't and so when we're talking about Joe burrow and it's like Joe burrow Josh Allen very fresh in my mind is well he went into Josh's building in the playoffs played a great game Josh played one of his worst playoff games and that's that's something when it freshen my mind talking about Joe Versus Lamar it's like well Joe's played you know momes in the playoffs twice played poorly once played great once in his building and beat him and Lamar in my opinion you know when the last gas for the Ravens in that game after playing poorly throughout it threw into triple coverage and lost the game Joe in my opinion Joe burrow has two playoff runs better than any one Lamar has so that's part of the quarterback rank well that that's that's the difference like you can argue Lamar has been better in the regular season he has two MVP burrow has none but it's the playoffs it's not just that Burrow's played well in the playoffs for the most part got to the Super Bowl is that Lamar hasn't played well that's that's what it is I I hear where you come from but that's that's the difference wild if somebody if somebody starts talking if we're having a conversation and someone's like why don't you have the same energy for Jimmy Butler that you have for Joel embiid and it's like one guy's want an MVP one guy hasn't and the answer would be well yeah but one guy consistently raises his game in the postseason one guy consistently drops it no one have problem with it everyone be like oh yeah that makes sense there's a weird again I'm not trying to make this about Lamar but if we're going to talk about these two players it's we we can one guy I think gets better in bigger spots and one guy I think it'ss worse and we also have a small a relatively small sample size on burrow that's it too like Lamar's got now several years of in the playoffs and all that burrow like we say he got two healthy Seasons he's been good in those two but let's a few years from now it'll be different if he doesn't it's really simp you're hitting it on the head like as an athlete like we are not judged by the Lesser magnitude of a game like we're not going to hold let's say like even Lamar losing against Kansas City week one in the same Stratosphere as we would if this is the postseason and that happens and he doesn't perform well like we just don't hold those two in the same category and if you choose to play not choose if you happen to play worse consistantly when we expect and are hoping that you give us what you've always given us in the regular season and you happen to have the MVP slated right next to your name come on like you can't you can't argue that and and it's and the the the other thing when we say Joe's played two healthy Seasons this is his fifth year in the league so this year doesn't count yet right he's he's had four years his first season he his rookie season got his knee blown out and the that's a not healthy season for sure but also if I'm and again I don't like the Bengals we're we're going to put one of them on the bulletin board for the week's over I think the owner's cheapap I think they should pay Jamar a Chase I I think the team talks too much but I'm trying to be fair here Mahomes didn't even play as rookie year I mean so they burrow played more than Mahomes as a rookie and then he had two healthy years Could Caleb Williams struggle against the Texans? they were awesome he was awesome he was second best quarterback in football and last year he got hurt twice and this year he hasn't gotten hurt this year it looks like he's still dealing with the effects of last year's injury I just I don't I I don't think people are being consistent in how we always talk about athletes and last point I'll make is oddly I think that burrows win over momes carries special importance in a lot of people's minds cuz the only other guy to beat him is retired I think if Mahomes had lost in the Super Bowl to Brock pie oddly it would hurt Joe burrow because someone else would have beaten him you know what I mean but the fact that he's the only guy actively playing that's beating him in a spot that matters makes him feel special in a way other guys just don't especially when he keeps beating the other guys yep uh dud list next what okay really bears at Texans CJ's crew favored by six Sunday night bad news for the Bears both romad dun and Keenan Allen missed practice today and yesterday Caleb trying to bounce back from a 93 yard performance uh he did Rush for 15 so total yards at 108 and he also had a two-point conversion why cuz you're not saying that with love I'm just you are poking at the guy ver is he not poking at the guy to yards yes he had a bad game you've been very a lot of Wild's Caleb commentary this week I think assumed that I was going to come on here and defend the performance and I didn't and he has just continued to present the story as if I did nobody you're arguing against a non-existent person that's like actually Caleb was great on Sunday nobody thinks it earlier Today's show you said the Titans had a great def no I said they had a great defensive performance which they did oh they held the opposing quarterback to under 100 yards and zero touchdowns that's a great performance that is a great defensive performance and and Jeffrey Simmons and DeAndre sweat two great or one great D tackle and one maybe great D tackle but go ahead could Caleb have another dud of a game are we on dud watch no Brew no wow he's not gonna have a DOT of a game he's just not like the I I didn't think Houston's defense was great on Sunday it wasn't I didn't Indie scored touchdowns I think on three straight possessions in the second half and I thought I just for the record the guy threw a historic historically great pass I understand but that's that's not three straight touchdown drives you got two other ones no and uh and I thought that if CJ didn't make the play of the weekend almost that third and 11 uh to ice the game that Indie was going to get the ball and go score so I'm not guaranteeing Bears win I'm not guaranteeing Caleb outplays CJ but I do not think Caleb's going to be have another dud I just don't think that I think he's an excellent player who is again we'll see what weapons he has out there but I think that he will at the very least have DJ Moore and DeAndre Swift I think he'll be good he is absolutely on D watch now I'm not saying sub 100 yards but 127 would be like a low yeah would be a dud like yeah I'm not predicting I'm just saying he's on serious watch because I I do think Deo Ryan and that defense you're right they weren't great against Indianapolis but I think they're gonna come in there and be strong I thought Caleb was hesitant which is fine is a I'm not saying this is a longterm projection but hesitant I think they confused him a little bit with the defensive coverages and and the disguises and stuff and Houston I think is going to do the same thing and he Pro I don't I mean he may not have two of his best weapons that's that's so yeah I think he's definitely that's why it's problematic for me it's this is not truly in my opinion fair to Caleb because he's down two of his better weapons obviously you got DJ Moore and I believe that they'll after seeing what he did last week they're going to try to get the ball out of his hands quick you're going to see screen passes to DJ Moore obviously Co KT and Swift get in the passing game out of the back field and them try to run the ball more and so will he have a dud game I hope not but it is definitely on the board can can I ask you a question while yeah cuz I I think I might be the biggest Anthony Richardson fan on television like I outside the Indianapolis yeah I mean so who do you think's better the better quarterback Caleb Williams or Anthony R Caleb 100% okay you you do think that of course okay so if that's the case then do you not think it's on the board that Caleb can have 250 total yards three touchdowns like Anthony Richard Richardson was a home home run orun I don't know if he's throwing home run I understand I'm not saying I'm not saying n completions for 210 yards what I'm saying is a guy Anthony Richardson it's weird because yes he's in year two but he doesn't have much more experience Caleb he played you know he played essentially 12 quarters of football last year and this year they've played the same amount like that I think he can have similar success not looking similar my question was is not necessarily Caleb it's Chicago's coaching where it felt like they were surprised that Caleb couldn't get stuff going I'm surprised they didn't scheme up easier stuff and just compared to what the Texans did for CJ's second game after the Ravens game they lost they lost the game against the Colts he went 30 for 47 for 384 yards that's when like oh CJ Strauss out here really throw but it felt like Hey we're going to trust our guy to really throw the ball all over the field and and get a lot of yards I don't know what Chicago's coaching plan is for Caleb so Whats the final score of Bills at Dolphins tonight? I listen it's Shane Waldron's new offensive coordinator I don't I don't know what the plan is either it struck me because I was watching probably that game as closely as you were watching Bengals Patriots that the Bears were caught surprised at how great the Tennessee D tackles were it was Jeff everybody know je simm and especially the interior of the line everybody knows Jeffrey Simmons excellent but dandre sweat who was a guy who was like is he going to be a first round and he got in some trouble he fell in the draft there were some concerns he was awesome and it was it felt like he was getting pressured up the middle and they didn't have an answer for that that's the they need to get an answer an Caleb was erratic and missu I just think he'll be better okay I think he'll be better you don't he's not on dud watch for he's not going to have back toback Duds no but is he on dud watch no I and I'm going to say no every time I ask that question because it's a I I don't like the topic bar I don't like the second we got to come up with a new name see on dwat some turn on the show podcast has been good YouTube channels are good I listen to the show on SiriusXM pretty good it's on in the morning sometimes right and early crack it on yeah wake up listen little first things first that's pretty good uh tomorrow oh it's upset alert so far we haven't gotten an upset alert but we have covered I think that is that true or not yes but it also doesn't matter that's not that's Nick's picks you guys are trying to get winners but we've covered you guys have covered you're trying to get winners but it also makes my tomorrow we're unveiling the upset alert scoreboard and it's all zero we were actually right close but also in the column have a column that says did it cover sure I'll give you a little check no problem I got we did Bill's at Dolphins tonight uh 8:15 we're looking for a specific score Brew will'll start with you I I mean I don't know if you'll take it this way Wilds but moral victory for you guys 2824 huh Buffalo 28 28 24 actually you would take that that's not enough to make you hop off your Super Bowl pick so little moral Victory but you lose you Wilds 287 Dolphins 287 a blood so I the I don't know that I think the Dolphins defense can slow down the bills offense to that degree at all and I really just I think Josh Allen's going to play a lot like he did in week one I think it's going to be a whole hell of a lot of Josh Allen so I'm going to go with 3127 not a terrible two a game not a disaster but 3127 Buffalo a high scoring game that Buffalo ends up winning I would also like 35 17 you can have you can have every score that has the dolphins with me and the bills get the whole board have 38 17 get the whole

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