Jordan Addison, George Pickens are WR preseason fallers | Fantasy Football Happy Hour | NFL on NBC

right all right let's look at uh we'll transition to a few wide receivers here that have been considered fallers and start with Jordan Addison who it seems like from an injury standpoint Jay things are looking much more promising than we initially thought but you have the potential suspension risk is looming JJ McCarthy looked so promising in his preseason debut and you thought he would take over at some point this season his season is lost due to injury with the miniscus repair so I mean when you look at Jordan Addison his season is based on okay can Sam darnold to be effective in this offense and can he benefit from playing across from Justin Jefferson yeah so right now he's going like the wide receiver 41 type of range I think that's fine don't have a huge strong position on that obviously there is the potential suspension and then also he's dealing with the seemingly a minor injury at the moment um you're a little bit concerned when there is hackinson and Jefferson there with a quarterback who I think is going to key on to Justin Jefferson I think the other thing the thing with the JJ McCarthy injury it's not so much that it hurts right now it's just now all these guys are one snap away from being in the nick Mullen show and I watched the Nick Mullin show last year and it got zero% on the Tomato Meter it was a terrible terrible terrible watch uh and I just don't think that he's got out for this and I don't think Jaren Hall is either because I've never seen someone more petrified to play quarterback than Jaron Hall when he had to play the Packers late in the season so that would be the concern is that now you really need Stam darn to stay healthy which is a terrifying sentence for a team that has a lot of good players on it and is really dependent on Sam Donald now Denny how do you look at Addison's ADP as it stands yeah first of all I'm not used to this thing where teams use the carts to get guys off the practice field and then say they're fine CS well what's going on wa this is this happened to Tyrone Tracy a few days ago where I was oh his season's over and he has a low ankle sprain and he's running the next day he go right and then Addison goes off on the cart he's fine he's okay he's not going to miss any time so I I I guess this is just what they do now we have to adjust our mindset to that but look Addison ran really hot on touchdowns last year especially uh touchdowns deep you know beyond 20 yards uh can he keep that up with Sam darnold I'm I'm skeptical guys uh you know why receiv Z 45 like he's not going to kill your team but I just I don't really see myself targeting Jordan Addison all that often I will say about Mullins uh not good for fantasy and not good to watch Jay's right about that but get it done for Justin Jefferson just targets him relentlessly so I'm not too scared of Jefferson's prospects Addison I'm I'm just cool on him for now so Jay the way we're talking about Jordan Addison a former first round pick and knowing T.J Hawkinson is not going to be ready to start the season and this kind of goes to something that's been a theme for you since we've returned it feels like this offense is just tailor made to just relentlessly pepper Justin Jefferson with targets yeah Chey lamb style targets almost yeah and I think the concern is is that this idea that you know Jefferson's is going to face bracket coverage and he's going to get double and triple teamed it's like two years ago when he won offensive player of the year and had one of the Great Wide Receiver seasons of all time you think they weren't doing that they were doing that every yeah bill bich um I think it was on Thanksgiving perhaps when they played the Vikings and it's like Jefferson's bracketed cousins are just throwing it to him anyway he just goes for 100 plus yards because he's Justin Jefferson and he will beat double teams consistently so I think Jefferson um and be for your take Denny like right now I would take Justin Jefferson first in drafts I think that people have just overthought this a little bit too much I think that in terms of uh age in terms of production in terms of playing in a dome in terms of Target competition like I would just be taking him straight up over Tyreek Hill who's on the other side of 30 who can't who plays with a quarterback Who falls off every year when he gets colder and later in the season and also has dealt with injury issues Jamal Chase has to play six AF has to play the AFC North defenses six different times and also plays Outdoors like I just would be taking Jefferson over these guys yeah it's going to be a probably a bad season for the Vikings let's just be honest but it could be a really fun season for Justin Jefferson's fantasy Pro Prospects although I expect him to be very frustrated with how things go in Minnesota yeah I mean you know Jefferson has that 180 to 190 target range uh you know with just lots of negative game script for these Vikings no one really you know there to take targets away from him with hackinson coming back from a serious injury and maybe Addison facing a suspension so I I would take Tyreek although J Jay's talk about tyreeks age is freaking me out right now you know maybe I'm I'm going to rethink that after the show but I would take Tyreek over Jefferson but that's about it and I I do think that volume wise it could be crazy for Jefferson this season all right guys let's go to a wide receiver where the conversation is kind of unique it's not that anything's happened to George Pickins this summer there's any concerns around the actual player but Denny let's live in a world for a second where Brandon auk can be thrusted into this offense that it doesn't it has some quarterback concerns or question marks at the moment what would an iuk acquisition do for George Pickins from a fantasy perspective I try not to get too worked up or like overstate this but really it would be catastrophic for for Pickins I mean bring C out for him fantasy more than the real c yeah it's just it's there's just no I don't know there's no path to like serious fantasy changing volume for pickings if auk comes there auk really good Target Commander we're talking about an Arthur Smith coached offense with possibly Justin Fields who you know he takes away pass attempts because he he takes off in runs right we have to remember that um so if Fields gets the job if auk gets to Pittsburgh at some point in the next I don't know five years then then Pickins you know is is looking at a I don't know an 80 Target season maybe 90 targets and Pickins is the kind of big play wide out who can make you know get make a lot from a little and and I I do acknowledge that but from a fantasy standpoint if you have him as your wide receiver two or even three I think you're just going to be very frustrated you're going to you're going to really want to bench him at points because of the the small outputs and then he's going to have Spike weeks uh it's just not a fantasy profile that I'm chasing guys so Conor with the Steelers quarterback battle um in the Alpa Smith offense it seemed like it was see like was kind of trending towards Fields a little bit and then he didn't play particularly well in the preseason game now it's now Russ in the market is back to being minus 500 to be the week one starter if you have George Pickins on your fantasy team do you do you want Wilson as the quarterback or do you want Fields I I would want Russ honestly I just think when you look at this is just my opinion but I feel like with Fields playing it just encourages Arthur Smith to be even more run heavy than ever and it also opens up a little bit of a different run throw there's good things about Justin Fields playing for his fantasy potential and for the Steelers as a team because some of the different run looks you can do Russell Wilson isn't the same Runner he once was but he is a guy that can get the ball out when it's coached in his head to get the ball out and you could throw a little bit more with him and you know maybe he gets back to some of those Moon shot deep throws which Pickins absolutely loves like he wants to be in contested catch situations so I would want Russ if I'm drafting George Pickins and taking the iuk part of the equation out the door and I agree with you J I just think it's EAS easier to start the season out with Russ and eventually go to a Justin Fields it feels Denny it feels a little weird to start out with fields and you know he's been hurt almost every year of his career he's had ups and downs the highs are higher than what Russ brings you now but then to go to Russ in that scenario yeah I mean you know as far as pass volume goes I think that you're right Connor and and that we're going to see more pass volume if and when Russell Wilson starts for the Steelers how how long that lasts who knows I mean I feel like these guys could just be juggled back and forth all season um but it really will change the landscape for the pass catchers in this Pittsburgh offense including pickings including Fri mouth including maybe jayen Warren who looks like the primary pass catching back in that back field uh you know so I yes I guess I would want Russell Wilson although my best ball teams would like Justin field because we like the rushing but uh as far as pass catchers go it's it's for R Us for sure all right guys our last wide receiver on our fallers list rookie Troy Franklin here Jay a deep threat he played with B Knicks at Oregon they had a lot of success but unfortunately for Franklin he's a guy that's been struggling in Camp so far in a passing offense that at the moment doesn't really inspire a ton of confidence anyway besides courin Sutton we know what he could do but after that it feels like a big wide room of different options that could really be almost a committee yeah uh so I lived in Denver for a few years got a lot of Broncos fan friends uh and they're all very confused about everything that's happening in Denver right now like oh why why is bonx our quarterback why do we take him 12th overall what is his offense going to look like I'm really excited for Troy Franklin oh he just doesn't seem to be part of anything that's going on at the moment so um I think just I don't really want any part of that offense outside of maybe um Javonte Williams and I think cin Sutton is clearly Payton's guy and the uh it clearly preferred him over Jerry Judy but do you think that Franklin's skill set kind of pairs with Bo Knicks well I think there's obviously the built-in chemistry they had the not only the Deep threat ability in Oregon's offense but a lot of screens to Frank and I just think that's not going to happen for him out of the gate as rookie season the guy that needs to get bigger stronger it's going to take a little bit more time and sha Payton's offense which can take a while to learn for a younger player so uh I I think that Franklin is not a giant Factor as rookie season and to be fair he was drafted that way in the NFL draft this is somebody once upon a time that was looked at as a top 40 top 50 selection he fell in the draft and now you're seeing him in Camp not really get thrusted into a situation with the ones where things are wide open so yes down the road him and B Knicks there's a connection there and they'll build on that but out of the gate where we don't know who the starting quarterback is going to be we don't know who the other wide receivers are going to be at of the gate there's too much uh you know variance and question marks here that I would want any any shares so two questions for you then one do you think the connection they had in college will translate to the pros and then secondly how does Troy Franklin compar to Marvin Mims it's a really good point because they do run the same kind of deeper route tree now I think Franklin's route running was better than he was given credit for the biggest question with him will be can he get off the line of SC scrimmage guy that plays you know almost like Jaylen high at 172 175 lbs I think the play speed is even faster than the time speed so I think with Franklin they would have to you know preferably keep hands off him play him in the slot so if you're not seeing that right away an effort to do that right away in Camp well that's a big concern but the built-in chemistry with bod Knicks is a positive sign these guys have had a ton of success they weren't a one-year Wonder those last two years at Oregon Franklin was one of the best wide receivers in the country and the timing with Nicks the ability for Nicks to push the ball down the field specifically to Franklin I'd buy into this a little bit more from a dynasty standpoint but Denny in a redraft standpoint there just this doesn't seem like this one has much of a point it feels like Mims should be getting those opportunities in year two compared to Franklin getting them year one I I you know and I'm I'm cool to Mims as well you know I I don't think that Mims is going to see you know 100% uh route share at all you know I think that it'll probably be more toward the 50% range for Mims I think he'll be somewhat rotational he'll make some big plays for Fantasy you know who knows like if you're in a managed League where you have to choose starters every week Mims is going to be tough he's going to be he's going to be tough he's going to be your least favorite player in the world uh Troy Franklin there was a report that the Broncos had a second round grade on Franklin so maybe that will factor in at some point um but beyond courland Sutton I don't think that there's much here I don't think there's much fantasy juice to squeeze uh Beyond Sutton um I you know I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin is just a straight backup to Josh Reynolds you know Co coaches love Josh Reynolds and he's a reliable veteran receiver we know Shawn pyton likes that sort of player uh so I think Franklin should remain on pretty much all Waiver Wires after the draft I think the last thing you touched on Denny is very important to remember here is who is leading the charge and it's a guy in Shawn Payton that I know Julio mcclaflin had moments last year but overall he is a coach that's going to lean more on Veterans in that situation we we saw this with Marvin Mims last year feel like Marvin Mims would you know maybe have a chance at a big play and then his snap count would be significantly low so I think that kind of tells you the story here as well Jay that I mean it's just hard to get invested in the rookie aspect of this offense it's really hard to get invested in this offense as a whole yeah and also like think about the conference that they play in and the division that they play in having to go up against the defenses of the Chiefs the Raiders now have to be viewed as a very strong defense the Chargers defense will be better on the harble so it just doesn't I mean The Vibes just aren't great in Denver I understand like pton got his guy or whatever but like your guys bone X at 12 just doesn't make a great deal of sense hey it's Matthew Barry from nbcsports.com and rotoworld.com and I want to thank you so much for watching whatever it is you just watched or if nothing else being too lazy to click out of the autoplay after this video started after whatever it is you actually wanted to watch finished but now that you're here I'd like to take a moment here to ask you respectfully respectfully now okay I'm ask asking you respectfully to subscribe to the NFL on NBC YouTube channel you'll get the latest Rota World fantasy news headlines all sorts of great shows including my own fantasy football happy hour so go subscribe now again I'm asking respectfully