JD Vance ‘red pilled’? His ‘childless cat lady’ obsession may be 'manosphere' brainwashing

>>> POST-DOBBS IT IS A DARK WORLD FOR WOMEN AND WILL BECOME DARKER IF DONALD TRUMP AND JD VANCE HAVE THEIR WAY. ACCORDING TO THE FORMER TRUMP OFFICIALS AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, THEY PLANNEN ON CURBING WHAT THEY CALL ABORTION TOURISM. STOPPING WOMEN WHO LIVE IN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE DESERTS FROM TRAVELING TO ANOTHER STATE FOR CARE. THEY WOULD THEN WANT THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL TO IMPLEMENT A MANDATORY NATIONWIDE COLLECTION OF PRIVATE MEDICAL DATA TO TRACK ABORTIONS AND GIVE POLICE THE POWER TO TALK TO YOUR DOCTORS ABOUT YOUR GIN COLLAGICAL CARE JUST IN CASE THEY WANT TO PROSECUTE YOU. IF YOUR STATE DOESN'T WANT TO COMPLY, THEY'LL SIMPLY CUT FUNDING UNTIL THEY DO. THE GUY WHO WROTE THAT PROJECT 2025 SECTION, ROGER SEVERINO, WANTS TO NATIONALIZE ABORTION BANS AND HIS WIFE HELPED LEONARD LEO PICK THE THREE JUSTICES WHO STOLE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS FROM AMERICAN WOMEN. SEVERINO COULD VERY WELL BE IN THE NEXT TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND HIS WIFE WOULD HELP FILL THE NEXT SUPREME COURT VACANCIES. SENATOR JD VANCE HAS BEEN AN EARLY PROPONENT OF THIS KIND OF VAGINAL VIGILANTEISM. HE WAS ONE OF EIGHT REPUBLICAN SENATORS WHO OPPOSED THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT PREVENTED STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM TRACKING YOUR MENSTRUAL CYCLES. UNSURPRISINGLY, TRUMP TOLD "TIME" MAGAZINE IT IS UP TO THE STATES. JOINING ME NOW IS SCOTT GALLOWAY, NYU PROFESSOR, HOST OF THE PROF G, POD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THIS ALL, I THINK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, SOUNDS LIKE CRAZY HANDMAID'S TALE STUFF, BUT IT'S VERY REAL. THERE IS THIS WORLD IN WHICH THESE MEN WANT TO FORCE WOMEN TO BE INCUBATORS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE THIS IDEOLOGY COMES FROM? >> I THINK IT COMES FROM A PRETTY DARK PLACE, JOY. I MEAN, COULD YOU FOUR YEARS AGO THINK WE WOULD BE SITTING IN AN AMERICA WHERE 1 IN 5 WOMEN HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR STATE TO TERMINATE A PREGNANCY? I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY ANY CHANCE IT WILL BE TOTALLY OUTLAWED BECAUSE I THINK THE MOST MENDACIOUS THING ABOUT THIS MOVEMENT NOW OR THIS TREND IS NOT THAT IT'S AN ATTACK ON WOMEN, BUT IT'S AN ATTACK ON POOR WOMEN. I JUST THINK THAT IF JD VANCE'S NEPHEW AND HIS GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE WERE TO GET PREGNANT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT. I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TARGETING, IF YOU WILL, IT WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON MOSTLY POOR WOMEN OF COLOR. WHO DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FIND A WAY OUT HERE. SO IN ADDITION, ESSENTIALLY, ON A BROADER LEVEL, THIS HAS IMPACTS GLOBALLY. TRUMP TRIED TO REINSTATE A GLOBAL GAG RULE THAT WOULD REDUCE FUNDING TO EVEN TALK ABOUT FAMILY PLANNING TO INTERNATIONAL GROUPS. AND I THINK THE MOST MENDACIOUS THING ABOUT THIS OR THE MOST UPSETTING THING IS LET ME SAY THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD. IF WE ELECT SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, WHICH IN ANY LANGUAGE IS RAPE, WHO CALLS WOMEN HORSE FACE OR FAT PIGS, HAVEN'T WE AS A NATION BASICALLY SAID WE ARE NORMALIZING MISOGYNY? >> YES. I MEAN, YES. AND I WILL SAY I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ABSOLUTELY COULD IMAGINE WE WOULD BE HERE, BECAUSE THOSE OF US, AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE AS WELL, BEEN FOLLOWING WHAT THEY USED TO CALL THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT, THEY HAVE BEEN LITERALLY SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT AS SOON AS THEY HAD A SUPREME COURT THAT WOULD DO IT, AND PEOPLE ELECTED DONALD TRUMP ANYWAY. THAT IS TO ME THE DISCONNECT. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO PUT JUSTICES ON THE COURT THAT WOULD OVERTURN ROE. THEY DID IT AND PEOPLE ACTED SHOCKED. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS MANOSPHERE THING. IF YOU PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT, YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. THEY DON'T EVEN THINK WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY GENUINELY BELIEVE, AND I THINK IN ALL SINCERITY, WOMEN HAVE NO PLACE IN PUBLIC LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE KITCHEN. >> YEAH, LOOK, THIS IS FRIGHTENING, AND IT IS KIND OF SEASON NINE OF THE HANDMAID'S TALE. I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON AND IT WARRANTS MORE ATTENTION, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS ELECTED AND THIS DYSTOPIA DOESN'T COME TO BEAR. WHAT'S UNUSUAL ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION IS WE THOUGHT THIS ELECTION WAS GOING TO BE A REFERENDUM ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND BODILY AUTONOMY, AND VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS HAS PROBABLY LOCKED UP THE YOUNG FEMALE VOTE. WHAT I THINK WINS OR LOSES THIS ELECTION, JOY, IS IRONICALLY WHOSE VISION FOR MASCULINITY WINS HERE, BECAUSE A LOT OF YOUNG MEN ARE NOT SO MUCH MOVING TOWARDS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. YOUR NETWORK HAS SPOKE VERY COGENTLY ABOUT THE LARGEST GENDER DIVIDE IN HISTORY. IT'S NOT MEN MOVING TOWARD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THEY'RE JUST AS SUPPORTIVE OF GENDER RIGHTS AS EVERY OTHER GROUP. THEY'RE MOVING AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL SEEN. IF YOU GO TO THE DNC'S WEBSITE, IT SAYS EXPLICITLY, WHO WE SERVE, AND IT LISTS 16 DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS, AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, COVER ABOUT 75% OF THE POPULATION OR SPECIFICALLY DON'T COVER YOUNG MEN. SO IN SOME, THEY DON'T FEEL SEEN. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW IS FACING THE SAME ISSUE THAT MANY UNIVERSITIES AND THE DEI APPARATUS HAS SEEN. THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE EXPLICITLY ADVOCATING FOR 75% OF THE POPULATION, ARE YOU ADVOCATING AND REPRESENTING THEM OR ARE YOU DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE 25%? SO AND ALSO, WE NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY. THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACT WILL RESULT IN 70% OF THOSE NEW JOBS WILL GO TO MEN WITHOUT NECESSARILY COLLEGE DEGREES, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. THE REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE IS THIS VISION OF MASCULINITY I THINK REPRESENTED BY WALZ. IT'S ONE MORE OF PROTECTION AND SERVICE AS OPPOSED TO TOUGHNESS AND STRENGTH WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS TRYING TO GO, AND I THINK THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT IS A FOOTBALL COACH ENLISTING HIS PLAYERS BECAUSE THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL, AND THIS IS A TRUE STORY, FELT BULLIED. AND ENLISTING THEM SAYING YOU DON'T NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT MEN MOVE TO PROTECTION. SO IRONICALLY, I THINK OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT WOMEN IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHO HAS A BETTER, MORE APPEALING VISION OF MASCULINITY THAT APPEALS TO WHAT IS BECOMING THE KEY SWING VOTER GROUP HERE, AND THAT