Packers vs Eagles Breakdown, Jordan Love's Injury & Shaq Calls Gobert the Worst NBA Player | EP 54

welcome to another episode of the moral kids podcast I'm here that boy Nick boy Clint that boy Clint you see it boy Nick that's real polo real horsepower it's not it's user don't listen to him polo polo draws Polo sock white boy black boy swag we got some great topics to go over the NFL season has started got some college football up little bit of basketball topics to uh discuss know we're not going to waste any time but you know I do want to start off on a little bit of RP rich homie yeah facts peace that just really crazy man that them them songs that little run was crazy I don't care was crazy but the number one thing is man and give people their flowers man check up on your people make sure everybody's good you know take the time out I don't care though BR sh like every time somebody die though you always got that wi [ __ ] no matter who it is bro y' [ __ ] want Len than him y want show love like like you to suck [ __ ] off every day you know what I'm saying and eventually where it happened that's random as hell though to come I feel you I feel you though that was so Random yeah for sure they pay their respects man like dang yeah that dude that that listen to that one mixtape that nobody heard somehow like okay bro every day bro every every celebrity Bro think you be old at this point but every celebrity bro they ain't got no fans like n you the only fan bro when he was with you know yeah but I mean but still though rest in peace bro rest in peace man he gave us some hits for sure is going crazy but just wanted to start off with that we not going you know we're not going to jump into the NFL first I know like you know oh for sure I know that's been like probably like a Hot Topic but number one thing I did want to start off with you know the the Rudy go bear ha sh is so funny go you seen uh you know Shaq had said you know that I think he they like who's the worst player in the N like go immediately they say in the history bro that's crazy know I'm saying I wonder what he said but I Ain click on it but he said Gober yeah then he basic on but yeah I'll let you say what you gonna say first warrant it's rude to go bro man like so he dead trash he's dead trash he started coron that's crazy he's not good bro he's not good bro he's good but he's not good bro like he's the worst NBA player he's good cuz you made it to the leag whatever you that 1% AA all that nonsense but compared to your peers [ __ ] you're not good compared to the [ __ ] in the history the NBA it's not good bro I mean so I mean he's the worst NBA player of all time though I ain't going to say the wor it's really I'm going this is like both you can't say the worst but he's definitely top 25 though worst yeah top 25 worst NBA player of all time like including the 60s all that yeah he the same damn player what he the same damn player as a all right so wait he's okay so he scall Bry is better than him scall Bry is better than him yes Denzel m is better than him on wa Denzel Valentine yes that [ __ ] suck all right so wait Anthony Bennett yes that's crazy that's tough my guy that's tough a defensive person bro that is tough that is tough that's tough I said bro top 25 bro You' be on it Le I feel like he no he good bro he just not good if that makes sense he good bro but he's he's a great he's a great talent he's just not he's not what people want him to be OB respectful right now bro don't say great talent bro he is a great talent I just think he's not what you want him to be that's all really be anything but him basketball player and he is so what are we doing he's not a basketball he's a starting center what are we doing you know Derek Lively actually has said something about that like a uh in a podcast he was on he was just like you know he better than him already yeah kind of sort of basically saying go B up oh dere GL I me you playing with Luka do and then you get hurt and go down like a ho bro you ain't do much you ain't do much you riding that car LCA train sit your ass down somewhere you better oh no hell Noy ain't doing nothing Well I'mma tell you if you a GM got say all say all that good you doing the most if you a GM if you a GM obviously you want to take darrk CER because you got the upside he's young and he's a rookie and obviously got the upside of his career but if I'm building the team and I'm expecting to have a championship caliber team I'm going take Rudy like it's like bro I know what I'm going get now to be fair obviously offensively Derek is a better player offensively CU Rudy be selling like off I don't know what the [ __ ] be going on offense like that [ __ ] is a big Goofy for show on offense but like that's my point though bro like he ain't got four defensive player of the years for no reason BR the man's not garbage like he's not garbage there's a lot of players who ain't never won a major Accolade in the NBA period and that's my exact point like I'm not looking to my right BR yeah I mean cuz he he doing that because he want to hate on Rudy goar bro Rudy Gober is not I'm not saying that a top five Center of all time but I'm also not saying he's the worst in top five Center in our ER what is our ER from 2010 to now no because that include way too many people but I would say right now in the league I mean I wouldn't name that many cers better than him it ain't many people to play center to begin with joic and MB and then after that maybe sabonis in there ad ain't a center he a power for he don't even want to [ __ ] guard the rim he hate to play the fire grand for better than him bro who Danny granford I don't even know who the [ __ ] that is D Gafford Gafford man bro stop this granford just saying just saying sh like who the [ __ ] is that like who the [ __ ] is that but uh no bro like I really think I really think Shaq I will say this Shaq is Shaq so it's like there's no questioning how great Shaq was but I don't understand what his beef for Rudy is because likeo he's not trash bro he's not trash now the money now the money thing I agree with but that's nobody's fault but the league that's everybody everybody knows that they pay everybody too early they pay on potential not on what people have doneal I mean defensive player of the year is potential I mean that's what that's it bro I mean if you averaging 15 and like he Ain stopping nobody bro I mean when it count that's what it matters a like he just guaranteed stopping people he stopped people in the regular season he just don't stoping he atic seven footer you supposed to block shots and grab rebounds bro you tow and you can jump you say that there's a lot of SF Footers that don't do that they still better than him though jum is crazy I'm just saying you said you post to block shot not everybody blocking shot he like he ain't got no hook move he can do no Little P move I mean he's not good offensively he's not good offensively I agree that but I'm just saying like that's saying a lot though and I mean BR all I'm saying is let's not sit here and act like Rudy go is the worst player of all time that's my point like he's not the worst player of all time that's that's the most May Ryan Holland played in the NBA bro remember that bro like he played in NBA Valentin man come on bro there's so many people that was trash in NBA bro on that [ __ ] head you're not basically saying I'm picking literally anybody overit you're not doing that bro stop doing that you're not doing that bro so all right Anthony Benny you got a team you picking Rudy go Anthony B you taking Anon where you at my boy you selling bro you wild crazy he's not that bad bro hit this corner three for us we good bro he know he got a rebound get blocked I mean you right and get a little layup or DK when you can dandre know who Rudy gobert I mean I feel him on that though that's not that insane that's not that insane like that's that's not that insane I understand that Brook Lopez or Rudy I want Brook oh yeah Robin Lopez I want the brother too I don't know about that one I don't know about that one he can do the same thing no I I don't know Brook yeah but Robin like come on that's question Andre Drummond better than him bro stop it bro I don't know about that cap bro I mean what is he doing better than him he's a better be bro he just don't get the PT he he black right so what that what does that mean he don't get the playing time but what does thatan attitude problem you the same damn player man he's not bro he is bro he's not bro he's way better bro man there's a reason why he got these McGee better than him bro come on cuz Andre bogot is better than him bro B's not even in the league I'm just saying bro they were playing the same time he would be better than him man okay anyway bro all I'm saying is he's not the worst player of all time I'm not over here advocating for Rudy Gober to be top five player of all time he's just going to say anybody on me to move second of move of the conversation forward I believe Rudy Gober is not the worst player of all time I think Shaq is doing the most and Shaq just don't like Rudy and the whole money thing I agree with that he's definitely not worth 250 but like that's the league fault they should have paid him that so and at the end of the day he made a [ __ ] ton of money so who's really hating on that me I mean if I was T I could do the same thing exactly and then you had that money so what but I ain't that time well you know what I'm saying that's the cookie exactly that's the way Grumble what we do college football man you're crazy saying but uh man okay bro how you pronounce his name shiron Mo yeah with Michigan they're not trying to offer him a contract you know well well well well hold on not not that they're not trying to offer him a contract they haven't given him a contract and so the argument is he signed a memorandum for like a 5year $30 million contract but that's not a contract that's a memorandum so they basically basically like saying like we it's it's like our kind of agreement that's not an actual agreement it's like this is what we think we gonna do not what we actually G to do so then they basically did this back in January when um Harbaugh went to the charges so that was when that was kind of side so now is September they still haven't hashed out a deal and it's like been like damn near s eight months need my here basically and so he he's playing he's he's coaching right now with no money basically like on the IOU like we gonna get you a v oh he ain't even paid he ain't got no contract he ain't getting that coach salary or he ain't getting paid oh no no no I don't know if he not getting a salary I'm just saying he don't have that contract doing for as a coach power fire like one of them type of programs bro you supposed to be getting your money bro yeah like bro they all making like crazy money so it's like understand why you want your moneyy saying like at least he getting DC coordinator kind of money like that's what I'm saying I don't know what he's getting P like I won't speak to if he's getting any money right now coaching for a but he has not got his actual contract is what I'm saying free intern like like cuz I think Dion's was a little bit different like Dion signed a contract but they didn't have the money but then obviously they got the money at least he got something no but he but I think he had a signed deal a promise here like own the money type [ __ ] like he got some bro yeah but he ain't got I don't know I a going get crazy I say know he had a contract that's all that matters but shiron the thing that kills me with that is though is like I don't understand how y'all could do that like y'all can't do that bro y'all like look it's offensive coordinator we won a title jy's gone if you're not g to hire somebody from outside of school the ad need to stop bullshitting you bullshitting bro you dragging your feet and I don't know if you day he'll get paid I mean but that's but that's too much bro you going to ask him to beat Texas and like that's cheese bro he should not have to do that to get get the money that you already promised him like eight months ago to earn his money boy exactly and if they doing that bro you I I would quit coaching bro get you another head coach then cuz it's like bro I go somewhere else I mean but exactly though I mean that's the game that's the game though for sure somebody come in $45 million over five years I mean at the end of the day he's off a great offensive coordinator it ain't like he not going to get another job like even if it's as a OC he gonna get another job it might not be as a head coach but he get another job boy Eric belind me man they a want to get that boy nowhere man he got a college job exactly but you say but I I Ain saying he going to the NFL bro I'm saying the college that thing something I think I want to say Oregon State it's a random team it's a random team I want I almost want to say it's USC but I know I'm wrong it's somebody though themos man it's not USC though it's somebody sh I don't know what the LSU no how they retiring jerseys they retired Bush Jersey and then they retired Cayla Williams jersey too and they were like they disrespect for the bush I mean you got to retire Bush Jersey got to Caleb nope you hating on Caleb bro he better not be good bro I swear he why why do he need this jersey retired Caleb Williams so sometimes people have that impact on the school like it ain't even got to be it ain't got to be a title it don't always had to be a title is my point what the impact exactly bro the impact is the juice everything that comes to the player like obviously how good they are the juice is the juice like you know what I mean like don't do that the juice is is I'm I'm that dude and I'm I'm like elevating the school in the program right now like that's just juice sometimes that's all it take it's juice he did transfer bro okay but it's juice I I know what you getting at I know what you getting at but I'm just saying I'm saying bro sometimes that juice will overpower everything that juice [ __ ] Baker May exactly though people like Baker people like Jimmy Johnny Manzel like Patrick Mahomes his juice was not like that I ain't saying it was but I'm just damn like they ju is so much better than this like that's what I'm saying he had like A1 million n uh deal bro trust me his juice was nice that boy Bush would have had 30 million bro what are you saying I don't know about that that's a little extreme sh on got bro three straight national championships bro I mean I don't know if he was going to get that dir though dir is insane this [ __ ] Ain I'm not saying he was going to have money I'm just saying 30 is I don't know inflation bro it would have been five or it would have been today 30 shadur Sanders that man said today five right he even get 30 right yeah but maybe some mix of like Tom Brady deals sh ain't Reggie Bush bro shadur ain't Reggie Bush juice bro Reggie Bush bro I'm not saying he wasn't cold bro wildie bu BR come on bro bro I'm not saying he was nice I'm saying [ __ ] like it's TBO he we we talking about juice we we not talking about winning we talking about juice juice yeah that's what I'm saying that's makes you get the most juice your daddy is a Hall of Famer y'all got all this built up juice of just how good you he's one of the best quarterbacks he definitely going to be drafted High bro like stop that's ju okay exactly they not at Alabama bro they not Alabama juice bro it ain't this different kind of level of juice bro Johnny Manzel didn't win [ __ ] but he still had the juice it show us [ __ ] he Ain got that kind of juice bro bro how does he not have that type of juice that Johnny Manel juice was crazy that's cuz he was at Texas where all the juice is just juice hard that's a lot of money bro understand this juice talk it's crazy it's crazy it don't even look we don't have to go back and forth everybody it all I'm saying is bro at the end of the day I hear what you saying but shamal Moore back to the main point they need to sign a contract stop bullshitting his man bro he he hoped you win a National Championship it's not like he suck and I mean Jim Harbaugh down him the head coach you you got the the BL day bro he gonna get paid bro Monday morning breaking news n i it better be I would cuz they [ __ ] I win I still ain't got paid bro it it depends though bro dep how much bread I'm making I mean five years for 30 I did promise me the job already I don't know five years for 30 and you don't let me coach this team for eight months straight and you try to take me down I had to take on the sign stealing [ __ ] and like y'all proing me up like I want my money bro stop playing with me bro for real like y'all didn't going to just use me as a puppet to do that they ever punish them for that man [ __ ] them I got they did they they basically already did like they was hating so hard bro like our coach could even coach har couldn't even coach you did all that just to still come back with still coach they put a documentary on Netflix I ain't watch it I got watch it you talking about them stealing the signs and man Them [ __ ] be so obvious be a [ __ ] got a h his do some dark little shades on fake mustache like one of them little sleo hats like okay bro fake Scout before we jump over to a little uh NFL action uh do you think that Colorado beats Nebraska tonight not that Nebraska I I don't think I think Nebraska wins but I will say [ __ ] Travis H got more juice than him than who he don't bro he don't I know I know what you saying I know what you getting at but he don't you talking about how good he is that's a whole another story we not talking about good good is a whole another story I could argue I get what you saying from argu he might be better than him but he definitely does not have more juice period I feel you though I I I it's like could you imagine sense I'm make it make sense uhuh easy way to make it make sense BR no B uhuh I got a easy way to make it make sense bro could you imagine if bronnie was actually good at football I mean actually good at basketball like actually really really good like really really good he had juice yeah ex had juice exactly exactly now you get it now you get it exactly there's no way bro he's wearing a chain and throwing he is wearing a gold chain and throwing touchdowns bro stop bro no I mean he if he's LeBron he's getting trained by Tom Brady bro he got trained by Tom Brady bro the juice is there so he throwing dots bro the juice I'm saying he's the juice bro I'm just saying when is the last time Travis Hunter met Johan Brady I don't even know if he did maybe he did but I'm just saying he's just levels to bro that's all know I'm saying I Ain saying I ain't saying he got he ain't got none he just ain't got nothing like them [ __ ] bro if they win tonight he going to definitely had a juice cuz they make it to the play bro N I don't think so I feel like you you correlating winning and Juice winning and juice a how you hit the most juice bro no it ain't it ain't it is it ain't because people realize or you beating good teams like come on you ain't got to win no right and they beat TCU when they beat T and they got they ass forward to the rest of the year exactly so now it's about winning it's not about beting good teams anymore is it exactly you see how quick that changes it's not it's not about winning but it's it's about beating good teams you you win to beat good teams bro what are you saying yo for sure anyway ain't expecting him to get no Natty or nothing but I'm just saying bro come on man bro Juice is not cor bro it's certain teams that regardless of what you do are built to be cheese bro the Georges the bamas the ETC if he beat one of them he like oh yeah for sure but I'm saying to beat one of them you you have to have a a whole team that's getting up to beat you not going to have no John man beat b bro and you acting like they was trash they was not trash exactly bro that was Texas bro you acting like this is like the same it's Colorado Texas A&M ain't nothing ain't nothing bro money they got on Texas a& so and how they ain't never good bro how they ain't never good they ain't never in No never they ain't never in no SEC Championship gam nothing like BR listen to what I'm telling you bro I'm saying as compared to Colorado you think let me ask you this you think if Dion had the job in Texas A&M how different that team would be yeah M Cru want to go there that's all I'm saying yeah they got a more presious no that's what I'm saying so you get something hot in there that's how you draw everybody else there not just the coach but obviously the players so when you in Texas now it's like okay we don't have the talent we got money but we Ain got no Talent so people ain't want to come here because there gonna be a [ __ ] program same thing kind of going on in Colorado except Dion's juice is drawing people there but with that being said if you're them bro at this point it's like bro NFL Scots looking at like I mean they obviously getting sold by their defense they getting sold by the all line he's the most hit quarterback in [ __ ] college football like what do we what are he supposed to do he's putting up 400 yards four touchdowns while being the most sacked quarterback in it in college football bro that's juice that is juice bro that's literally juice bro you're right and he's throwing a go and he's wearing I'm going just add again he's wearing a gold chain while doing all all right for sure it ain't TBO Mania [ __ ] it ain't even it's on the level of talent and then also the talent in football has changed a lot yeah so it's like what you talking about really ain't comparable when you think about those players cuz like the talent in college now is not the talent in college then that's all I'm saying better back then for all right bro come on bro come on BR come on we saw some spectacular catches last you saw running backs dominate the game and now the game is being dominated by passing passing started in like 2004 in college like basically really really being a thing because it was basically I think it was either Mississippi or old whoever the [ __ ] basically started that little aray [ __ ] offense [ __ ] bro they are not running the ball anymore like that that's why running backs they still do run the ball don't get me wrong they definitely still run the ball a lot but they throw a lot more and what I'm saying is that [ __ ] not built the same bro they ain't gonna have the same juice what running back all right so time out what running back has the same level of juice as them like a Derk Henry or a [ __ ] Reggie Bush what running back has that juice we find out cuz nobody does bro because the game ain't the same that's all I'm saying the talent level is different bro because these D the you can see it in the NFL the talent level is different all these hybd backs everybody running four threes BR them quarterbacks is different bro like who backs was different bro how old we going that's all I'm saying bro that's because they asking running backs to do different [ __ ] unless we talking about Christian mcaffrey and saquon bar NFL or college right that's what I'm saying like but I'm just making a point colle players bro but I'm just saying bro he act like [ __ ] with t-bo now period That's what I'm saying all right man come on man who who just as far as t-bo the whole package TBO bring so you would rather be Travis hunter or TBO TBO [ __ ] three times I want the H like twice what are you saying College wise yes [ __ ] I want some nties too what are you saying I said we talking about college [ __ ] I said like I said I said the talent talent yeah you'd rather be TBO Y come on man what are we doing man come the [ __ ] over man come on man that's not that's not good bro noash you you would rather be TBO Travis Hunter bro if TBO came in Le then he came League when they won this I'm we not talking about TBO is an athlete we know TBO is an athlete that's different what I'm saying is you little season in all right stop so You' rather be t-bo than Travis Hunter yes yes bro all right you progresses you can progress I that wild what are you saying bro you from a talent perspective you would rather be t-bo than Travis hunter that is insane for sure come on like excluding the accomplishment that's exactly I'm making I'm making a point because this whole point was drawn from there's more Talent back then than there is now and I'm like so you'd rather be him not even somebody that has a NY or any of this [ __ ] you talking about you'd rather be him yeah no I'm picking t-bo like come on bro like what are we doing triing [ __ ] I'm not saying he wasn't a good athlete that's not what I'm saying but I ask you who you'd rather be exactly exactly come on man come on man come on man y'all [ __ ] is crazy I'm saying bro what are we doing bro that's what I'm saying day bro Dam bro you like at least say Cam Newton to somebody [ __ ] say Cam Newton Andrew look you say a million people you not g to say no funny as [ __ ] was on that swamp King they was doing that you know like one doing that I don't know why that tripping me out but uh D College TS man exactly you said the UNL be uh turnover never mind they have a slot machine on their sideline turn over you just is it legit like if you hit some numbers do you win something we'll find out that's crazy it was a lot of crazy like one-handed catches last week I forgot like one dude from like Arizona did one yeah that was crazy too I think that was USC or no that wasn't UFC who was that I forgot who that yeah the dude that did that one that was like on two people like basically two people was defending him and he caught it yeah that receiver yeah that was crazy I was like that was crazy the Arizona one was like a uh pick no the Robert Morris one was a pck too yeah I know you had brought up the Rob Carter one I didn't see that one though yeah so all it's the r you a seen the video we can watch it real quick but while I'm talking so basically homie went up and caught like bro he hot them Athletics was insane bro like I'm like Jesus Christ that's a good sign seeing just like so much like athleticism you know they was better back back then bro that was better back then bro that's what I'm saying bro you know bro that's what I'm saying bro like stop bro they've gotten so much better I'm not saying they wasn't good athletes back then I'm just saying they've gotten better bro that's all I'm saying bro about the same football about the same thing yeah that's moris yeah football is the same bro a like basketball but anyway yeah that sh you did you see it no okay ha that [ __ ] was crazy make try the same [ __ ] saying bro but I just want I want to make a quick piek stop and bring it up for this reason that was a and that's actually a good transition from what we was just talking about I wanted to bring that up because I was going to say the talent in college at like a school like Robert moris is that crazy yeah like that's what we getting with sports athleticism is getting insane bro we got all these hyb backs all these hybd linebackers like the game is going to be crazy as hell coming forward like they definitely going to need them Guardian caps I don't know why they hating on them so much but they going to need them cuz you cannot have somebody 6'4 built like a truck running a 43 like at linebacker and just like letting him do that bro like the game is gonna be insane but it will expose a lot of quarterbacks so that that also makes me happy but otherwise crazy I thought the quarterback huh how would it expose the quarterback cuz it's bigger linebackers no I just mean like you can't just cheese the fact that like okay this tight end is getting guarded by this linebacker or this um uh running back is getting guarded by this linebacker a lot of times that's an expo mismatches yeah there's goingon to be a lot of less mismatches I believe personally it's like cuz even last night the the [ __ ] that Sequon caught on that linebacker he was slow I mean that was he was slow saquan goated for that but it's like and saquon's a great talent so not to hate on saquon he could probably do that on a lot of people but it's like um when you got those backs that are really linebackers that are really fast like that it's like bro you a even you can't just go I'mma dump this out to this running back or I'm going just dump this off to this tight end it's going to work every time so especially teams that got threatening receivers and tight ends like that's when it get tricky it's like they got fast receivers and fast tight end [ __ ] we got to let this linebacker guard them but it's like oh [ __ ] our linebacker 6'4 runs up 43 and he's built like a truck we good Warner yeah but anyway that's why I'm reason why I want to bring that up I do think that's amazing though Talent levels getting some copyrighted that's insane but before we get into breaking down the two games that we've seen so far down as far as Zak's contract I know like you know it's just been like one of those rolling discussions and I know like uh especially with like CD's deal do you think that in with the season actually like starting up does that put more pressure on them to like sign that and I think the bigger question is here is and I don't know how I worded it but the bigger question is do you think they're going to give him a longterm deal Which is less about whether they going to play with him because I pause they obviously gonna have him play for the the the Cowboys obviously but question is will he get something crazy for a five year deal or if you Jerry you like BR the max you can get his three I mean he made it this far bro he might depend how the season go if there's another one in done a and lost out you think they gonna just give up yeah him and MTH both on they last year their deals paid them I don't see why you would wait know especially if it's another disappointing are we seen this story for a minute I feel that I honestly think it's Cowboys so they will give him a long deal and I honestly think they'll shoot themselves in the foot but I think ultimately you're in a terrible spot because you don't suck you don't suck enough to get a high draft pick so like even if you get rid of Dak y'all gonna be decent enough to not get a draft pick so then you going be the same battle then unless you going to give a give some [ __ ] up like CD or Micah you gonna be in the same scenario and then okay next year let's say Cooper Rush start or whoever it doesn't really matter what you do or you get somebody from somebody else team like you know if Kirk gets hurt and gets traded there and they just say [ __ ] it we going with pennic or like some [ __ ] like that you still going to suck or be mediocre Le good enough to be like N9 and eight now to get a draft Peak so I just feel like ultimately if I'm them unless you willing to trade Micah or CD to get what you need and a weas to get rid of them cuz you're kind of stuck unfortunately but you waited too long yeah I know I didn't mean to but I'm trying to hold it they shouldn't have waited so long to make that decision though that's what I think ultimately screwed them because once you sign CD you [ __ ] that's crazy getting I guess some next you think they should give him a deal mow long term or you think they [ __ ] I feel like it's over it's over I feel like you know I feel I agree with you though as far as like they make he's always been great regular season like d puts up numbers in the regular season [ __ ] be honestly ridiculous you know last year he put up 36 touchdown n interception he played his best football last year actually CRA and then you get in the postseason like I mean to be honest it wasn't all him though it really wasn't all him that def was playing you can't pinpoint vo going vo no that's crazy something BR because you can never just pinpoint like what's actually like happens in them postseason so that's crazy like just let me get a Super Bowl can have it you know what Jerry did that interview with Stephen A and I actually got a lot more respect for him because I can see that he actually like he he understand what's going on which I do respect he don't he do though he do did you watch it you gota watch it I didn't but you got to watch it trust me he but he don't but no he you so what should he be doing Charles retiring and enjoying your money maybe he don't want to do that though this is him enjoying his money enjoying it because you losing so you not enjoying it what you mean though that's the whole point though it's the ride I'm trying to go succeed you Ain seeed in 30 years my boy it ain't looking ain't looking too good man uh he been 30 years calm down the '90s when the last one they won bro what was 30 years ago [ __ ] damn they're 96 was it it's it's 2026 2024 that's what I'm saying like damn near bro it's 2026 I mean it's 20 it's 2024 bro okay we go back to the year 2000 it's already 24 Years [ __ ] we F to be 30 [ __ ] what are you saying Them [ __ ] Ain't won since the I've been born [ __ ] so damn near 30 years yeah the N Years [ __ ] we getting up here man look bro they they won but I look when last when 25 years I get you they haven't they haven't played uh they haven't played for Super Bowl in 25 years 25 years when was they when was their last Super Bowl bro like 95 it's not 30 years ago 29 bro that was the whole point it was a joke but like you would told it's like hilarious anyway so the point I'm making is is like I think I I feel what you saying though Jerry the reason why I say I think he know what he doing I just think like they problem is they just have not had that over the top quarterback they had Dak who is really really good but he's a fourth rounder good quarterback he's a fourth rounder bro like you can't expect him to be like a first round pick unfortunately you can't but and it's the you think about the first round pick quarterbacks though those are where all the good quarterbacks have came from fan now too though I ain't saying that some of them ain't trash cuz there a lot of them that's trash but I'm saying that unless unless the pack unless you're the Packers bro everybody else is not having that type of look bro true so it's like you basically play Tony Romo the deak though that's what I'm saying I mean technically that's upgrade so it's like that what I'm saying exactly but Tony Romo one ass but Dak was a fourth rounder so D I mean he's overachieving is my point that's like saying they pick a fourth rounder this year and he's coach okay I mean but I'm saying that's hard to come by though a first round pick that's good it's like it's almost expected but a fourth round pick it's like I mean bro we hoping you do something the last pick of the NFL draft you know what I'm saying yeah exactly and that was unexpected too it's like you're not even supposed to throw a football you supposed be Josh Johnson right now so it's like I feel like ultimately they' been cursed with that they just haven't had that guy that's going to put him over the top but I also will argue they sell it in other places they coaches I don't know if it's had good the only question I have for them is is Jerry letting them coaches coach it's really less about the Personnel it's more about is he letting them coach now if he's not letting them do that he's selling with that but I don't I don't know if I believe that though on everything bro BR I don't know he calling plays bro he why be calling plays if he he coming up with the plays run the Wish Bone that [ __ ] running up coming up with the plays he cooking the food session stand all right all right what's the next thing bro what's the next thing we push for it you know I did see that Playbook he said 97 on it but we can start off with the uh we not gonna start off with that one but we gonna start with the Eagles and the Packers you know yeah boy got Hur actually I want to ask no I wanted to uh ask this yeah about this so and I want I want to get his reaction to this because I'm actually curious zoom in because you this is about two people that you basically like did the most with this entire time mhm so how do you feel about J Jaylen Herz and how do you feel about Jordan love after last night's performance TR I'm good who's good Jordan love is good okay so a couple seasons ago you saying Jaylen Herz was good yeah so he's trash now though he's reg yes okay so he's trash okay and then so based on what you seen from Jordan love last night you think he's really really good he's good you think he needs some work or he just good and he should got hurt you can always approve you should never got hurt you hate to see it but you know he's a up andc coming star emerging star he showing you that a gonna be no flute you really here to stay so yeah okay okay and then Jaylen Herz why do you feel like he's so bad I mean he just regress like I ain't saying he just ain't took that next level of really being a franchise quarterback it's like we got the better option we would you could be replaced like you know what I'm saying compared to Jordan love it's like okay we got our got bit okay I feel like I have a slightly different evaluation of what I saw last night Umar um well no I was going to say I mean you know how I feel about jayen her so I definitely think he's always been a [ __ ] facade like 278 for two Teddy no no no no no no no wait wait no no put that away listen it's a reason why because it's for what he said but um because once he he then he going he G I want I want to get his reaction as I say it so Jayla Herz all those picks everything that happened got saved by saquin got saved by AJ Brown got saved by their offense and I feel like he basically has Bec running quarterback and then like essentially every time he has throw it seems like he's out of his element now he did throw one good pass to AJ Brown obviously the saquin uh pass was great but ultimately I agree with you I think like bro he has regressed but I don't think he's regressed that's not I don't think that's the right word for it I think he's basically what he's always been I think he's not getting basically saved by that offense he doesn't have the same offensive coordinator they not cheesing and you know when you look good for five minutes everybody gets that honeymoon phase right like they were in that honeymoon phase they went to the and so they got really really cheese and they forgot how chees that team was that team was [ __ ] cheese and you even see it with Jason Kel not being there all the fall uh like you know the Miss snap and the fumble like everything that's going on there it's like exactly like you had one of the a Hall of Fame Center literally and you know that defense was stacked like a [ __ ] Hassan reck was still there they had all those pieces so I feel like and then that defense is still really [ __ ] good so no way Fletcher Clark still playing he still playing I think he retired I could wrong but I think he retired but I my point is I feel like Jayla has been getting saved by what that team is and now and it's funny because they always [ __ ] on people like Brock py for that same thing but if he does it he's great you you see how stupid that is the logic of he's getting he's so good because of his team and then it's like somebody else is really good because of no I mean he's really goated I mean he's so goated like he doesn't have AJ Brown Devonte Smith and you know decent running game because I think Miles was they running back before and obviously not in sequin they were really [ __ ] good like that was a really [ __ ] good te it's the coach though I mean I don't want to get into Nick serani but like it's it's just crazy to me how they did that so anyway that's how I feel about jayen now as far as Jordan love is concerned this is funny because I think he is good but I think he has a long way till he's great and the reason why I say that is you got to remember now last night he went 17 for 34 so 50% pass completion and a lot of it and threw a bad pick and that bad pick he threw last night I don't know if you saw it but he was throwing off his back foot he was going backwards basically it's like he throws like that a lot and I don't know if he's like I don't know what that's about but it seems very rookie is to me and I'm be honest with you that's what it seems like rookie is she ain't learned he doesn't plant his feet a lot when he throw if you throw in a run that's different but like when he's throwing and then you can tell after he threw the pick it's almost like somebody told him to start planting his feet like a QB coach or somebody's like bro plant your feet and then he start planting his feet and throw but a lot of that [ __ ] was like like bagging up like I'm like bro there's nobody about to hit you just plant your feet and throw square up and throw but like I don't know what that was about but I feel like a lot of his [ __ ] is rookie and I think this will be his sophomore slum is where I'm going I think this will like from what I saw last night and it's not even that they're not good and they're not going to come close like they did against the Eagles last night I think it will be a sophomore SL for sure I mean straight bro I seriously you think the leg injury is I don't know [ __ ] I saw a lot of people slipping no they were like facts facts though but it was like MCL Springs some people said they think it was MCL spring other people thought it was a road ankled um some people thought he might have tour his ATL I don't know I think I think it'll be a spring though I think it'll be a spring a high high grade spring he be out for a little minute [ __ ] a little many might time do you think like six month you think wait was that who that was last night who for the Packers that backup quarterback will yeah yeah I know I saw him no I saw him and then I was like yeah that's him ain't it like boy y'all is cooked is C go imag that man out there and start Bing boy he's not bro he's definitely not that [ __ ] is cooked he's definitely not bro that man is unless he running feel that way bro unless he going to run around and [ __ ] saying but why you feel that way bro of what about him why you put your hand on the table I don't want to say then you going to catch on eventually but why you saying why you saying that why you don't want that man to this man is tripping bro what saying why you don't want him to hoop bro why I want Malik well to do well yeah okay bro you want him to do well yeah he left he left the Titans now you want him to do well after leav after selling y'all and then now he's gone you called him trash multiple times on this exact show who didn't want to see him shine wanted Le to start and now you're saying you want to see him shine this is ridiculous man you are ridiculous man bro he's not good bro I don't care what you say he's not good I ain't even going to do this to you you're like I'm I'm darker than him probably [ __ ] like no like he's trash you are trash sir unless you show me otherwise you trash Let It Be G muu or something G muu gave us enough to know he's decent he's a backup bro he's a he's a glorified backup he's the best backup in goddamn football period that's what he is when he start you realize [ __ ] he is a backup though and then it's like but if he was backing me up he' be go like that's all about gardener is bro Gardener is really [ __ ] good until you actually need him to be really really good and it's like okay [ __ ] you're like guarding [ __ ] boy who the Raiders yeah the Raiders you they starting QB and Devante Smith will be not sold but then he will be sold at time which is funny I thought it was OK that was start okay oh ok's there I don't know if they called then they Chang that around we just need you to back him up BR as soon as start saking up the joint just go do you think but yeah that'll be interesting though see how they play out he get Series in but you going in yeah but I'm I'm but I also think too to Jordan Love's credit though I feel like them receivers ain't that good so that also gives a little bit n they they Devon Adams good nah bro Christian Watson and an old boy man be talking [ __ ] don't R and dbsb stop they be talking cash I supposed to yeah they be talking cash that [ __ ] was talking cash I mean you supposed to like y'all already selling be on the wave of like bro at the end of the game I you to fight basically I me I need I need to get you suspended I me you going to get suspended so you want to get old like old dude CJ gner CJ gner bit bro care I'm fighting Butner Johnson go hard bro like you know how many people want to fight gner Johnson bro I would love to have him on my team bro cuz I know he talking so much [ __ ] pop sh you talking Cas facts I want you to be like that [ __ ] you in his head at that you see what Mike Evans did with Marsh lore you know what Mar talking good C like we stop this game fight like [ __ ] what is he saying to you cuz like damn Wilding get in and do my job bro exactly defense I'm letting you know I did my job you ain't going to cat [ __ ] you trash look at you you can't even get out your get in the room for just when they finally do get that one kick they just going to explode like yeah [ __ ] what's up [ __ ] yeah like threw it over here for the first [Music] time you a trying to hear that [ __ ] yeah what's up no no wait first down [ __ ] say that [Music] CR you made one play they act like you T manbody listen to him man I play ball I don't talk like okay bro yeah you got exposed why we got to go back to that oh that's crazy like like you talking about me talking about you that's a class I'm re tiing out this these [ __ ] is just too much you know what I'm good I'm cra Dr know Packers and the E man th y the Monday night I mean not the Monday night yeah you right you said the Thursday yeah the Thursday night that Monday night game the Chiefs and mother and Ravens I know what you talking about he had a yeah CH winning somebody was talking that cash and he wanted to put money on it and he see what happened you shouldn't have put money on it exactly you well I mean you didn't but you shouldn't have exactly but like he a snap man he didn't we just G you know folded at the times that he needed to so he didn't crazy but just like you know from that game of course it's the first game people like adjust over the season anything like that but you know how do you see the season going for like both teams like just seeing like first glance you see like is that was just because Isaiah likely had said you know this was wor game yeah all that yeah I'm happy you said that long look in the postseason right stupid hold on wait stop let me say something to this cuz I was pissed off by this what the [ __ ] does that even mean bro he literally said good luck in the post bro they like bro they have three Super Bowl rings what are you talking good luck to you in the post SC you you hoping to win y'all have everything to win now like y'all still didn't bro what are you even doing like what are you even doing what exactly what are you even doing bro what is that to say be salty but that's the most bro like that's the absolute most it's okay bro it's okay your boy lost bro your boy lost man look this all I'm saying bro I'm I'm going just make it obvious bro patri momes this is what I think so to your question about what I think going to happen for both te I think the Ravens will obviously make the playoffs uh they'll get knocked out eventually either by momes or somebody else I think ultimately the only question is we got to watch the rest of these AFC teams see how cheese everybody looks but if if nobody looks cheese I don't know buto they probably gonna three Peak I'm be honest with you over exaggerating if nobody looks cheese they probably G three bro no because the Chiefs have went through so many different like [ __ ] for like I don't want to say formations but um what's the word I'm looking uh like Evolutions I should say like a different Evolution they first was really cheating high high that's crazy highfly offense they really scored a [ __ ] ton of points in the beginning right okay dude boom Tyreek leaves that falls off they're never gonna be oh my God H Tyreek not gonna win Beast the Eagles then my God BR okay then hold on wait submitted bro so then acting like you a coach fan bro okay anyway cuz you don't never get them hyp by bro it's Patrick Mahomes bro it's not that no no just hold on just hold on but like bro right and when Andrew Luck was giving y'all the slab I was on your ass the whole time stop Andrew Luck retired bro what you want me to do we had to go through Philip Rivers old Matt [ __ ] Ryan and now we finally got a quarterback he got hurt last year he's available this year we gonna be hyped and we going to beat them Texas tomorrow but with that being said not a CO to go back to the [ __ ] cheese trying to hear that bro to go back to the chees had no but you ain't never seen me sucking off nobody like another team bro you mad cuz he the goat bro stop doing that bro it's okay bro you salty bro you said he was going to win on this podcast he lost say it with me he the goat he the goat bro he the goat so with that being say back to my main point I think if nobody looks cheese in the AFC they probably going to the Super Bowl bro and the reason why I say that is they went through all these Evolutions now they in a very unique position because first they were like really really offense last year they not good it's all defense now they right in the middle with Xavier worthy with M mle Harman coming back and everything come on BR come on you don't know players in NFL I know players in NL all right well okay Keon Keon colan plays for the bills I'm a Bills fan now nope cuz you ain't talking about him like you talking about G cuz he not good like he the [ __ ] Josh Allen is not good I'm talking Josh Allen he's good no he's not exactly so Josh Allen is [ __ ] Rudy go he probably be Rudy [ __ ] Gober bro at this point anyway [ __ ] me for [ __ ] I to say no we not g to do that I was actually talking to my dog post manash outout to that boy post but yesterday he was like really Josh Allen just a cornball bro he was like he one of them [ __ ] that's this close to being cool bro man that's crazy do some Corall [ __ ] that's crazy he a b f got oh say that sound like some [ __ ] of bills F just like I hate this dude always right you talk but I think they I think the Chiefs are at a point where they offense and defense have hit a perfect equilibrium that's that's what I'm saying they really good offensively the Ravens are really good defensively and I think that's why they put up a bunch of points and I think their offense looked really good and they still it's still early for them too so the whole mistake thing is likely it's like do you think the chiefs made no mistakes did you think Patrick Mahomes the one pick he threw where he was getting hit that's not a mistake like that you didn't see that as a mistake like bro they can get better too like it's not like and they ring defending champs they turned it up when it needed to be so it's like what is that to even say that was so dumb to me but Lamar I will say this he you did y'all see where he was like basically like man I don't care that was a touchdown type [ __ ] with that ton line [ __ ] I I know I know how it hurt in his heart I do get it I really do that pain yeah but like bro you can't say that bro you got to tell your boys to get better we got to get better we got to all the mistakes we made we got to get better you gotta be a leader bro you can't do that man you could I know I feel him though you going to be mad about it you goingon to be salty for show but it's like you can't make that you can't make cuz he had three different chances to hit a touchdown and you missed somebody wide open you cannot do that he yeah he had them wide the [ __ ] open th them wide left like bro you can't do that bro you got to be a leader and go man we could have played better I could have played better like no point doing that he's black too what are you doing like I was going to say like his daddy all like his 99 DUI like he's definitely like bro what what are we doing n that's horrible exactly exactly they supposed to put him under the jail exactly so I'm saying that to say stop but yeah I mean good for the cheese bro they started out compared to last season they lost first game so they got their rush so they looking like they here like can do nothing get better so he's like hey we going to see man who who can't do nothing get better both teams your favorite team that's crazy man look you got to stop hating bro just say bro just say he the best quarterback in football and just say he that dude BR it's okay it's okay bro that's what I don't know why he be doing this hate bro it's okay bro he he that dude right now bro that's all it is well you got to recognize Talent with his talent bro was n well exactly before we jump into the bag of names one B name but that's it look at this out look at this out you know going into tomorrow which teams do you believe have the most pressure on them like as far as coming up to a performance you know living up to your expectations hepe What teams do you see have like you know yeah the most pressure on them this is a good question because I was talking about this earli I say the Jets definitely that's Monday poor souls yeah po but I got at least look good you know you know who I think who actually had the most pressure and this is going to be really random because I don't know if you talked about this yet and I don't know because you said the bag and Ang so I don't know if you brought this up you see that the uh Justin they talking about starting Justin fields for the Steelers oh yeah because uh cuz hurt yeah so this is interesting so I thought the most pressure is going to be on the Falcons now you what I'm saying I going to say the Falcons too the Falcons in my opinion had the most pressure Because You Paid Kirk all that money he just tore his Achilles I just like your boy Aaron Rogers and you paid him all that money now Aaron is like on a situation where it's like bro if Aaron don't work out we starting over you see what I'm saying it's like a don't work out [ __ ] it we starting over we got a lot of pieces we can [ __ ] around and do it but the Falcons on the other hand they trying to get better you see what I'm saying and it's like Kirk is our our us getting better pen get to sit but if Kirk is trash one two y'all playing a backup quarterback in Justin field so now you really need to win yeah now it's really like oh I mean it's Justin field I mean Kirk you can't be Justin field so I feel like they to me have the most pressure out of any NFL team if that [ __ ] sells yeah the Steelers player yet Falcons Steelers so I'm like they got the most pressure to me I don't know that's actually a good one I really don't know I it's lot everybody playing the Jets and the Falcons just because the Jets I agree that and both really in the same boat you got Asian quarterbacks that I was hop to at least make y'all competitive try to not really the Falcons they just trying to bre I think the Bengals too though they got a lot of pressure too cuz they ain't siging no receivers no I'm saying they ain't sign no receivers so it's like now you what are you doing like what are you doing like okay are you cuz if the goal is to milk all them Acquisitions they made off season no cuz nobody thinks they gonna win nothing I think ultimately they think they gonna win something but I don't think nobody's like this is a this is right now they're going to the Super Bowl yeah like so AFC Championship who you got who gonna get there Chiefs Ravens probably unless the Colts is goed Champ uh it's only because the last season I've been saying this nonstop bro he went to the Super Bowl so I really am gonna say uh Bengal probably Bengal Chiefs Ravens bills I got Colts if we good I got us winning it all for real for real like if Richardson is actually good bro I got us winning at all but stop the facade it's got to happen though it's got man we got the pieces bro I'm calling out every time I ain't talking about the coach in general they team how they looking you just ain't a coach fan bro chill bro anyway so call out I just think like we in a situation where I'm trying to be realistic like you know obviously he Ain play much last year and I feel like he is good but like we got to see it it's to be seen and obviously we got sh in that division Lawrence in that division so there there's that me who Trevor Lawrence Me Def better than will will Bo he won this season from them [ __ ] being the toss up so I ain't trying to hear that I mean I'd definitely rather pay Lawrence than Le so you say that like I said they one good season let Trevor LW have a mid season will Le have a decent season like he on up and coming all right BR I still I still wouldn't pick Trev ain't showing us nothing bro really ain't showing us nothing so what are we doing what he was a second round pick bro stra bro this word we stay Blue Man y'all we we going to stay blue and y'all play week one the bears oh y'all oh yeah y'all play the Bears oh yeah this is going to be go I see Y and Caleb get the ball on y this is perfect will yall play tomorrow oh perfect perfect perfect perfect perfect oh yeah I'm pulling that up bro I'm pulling it up side by side I'm at two team like that nope one team right here bro ain't nobody a fan of the Chiefs I'm a fan of P my homes you so salty bro you so salty bro you [Music] soty understand it's cool all right so you know this I'm going tell you how you know this [ __ ] when D came went to the Ravens man that my [ __ ] bro I hope he get him one yeah the Ravens and then sucking off the Ravens talking about how good Lamar is he probably better than him and if he get one Lamar get one he'll be right there been sucking around this whole time but now that your boy ain't performed he still snap what are you saying he ain't won no Championship okay and he just lost to that man again okay my point exactly get it back in blood bro he got to get three of them back in he showing you that he was watching on game cuz that [ __ ] was gone that he see something he like that [ __ ] was taking off so he learn from that championship game we'll see how long he stay Health come on how how many how many times was not healthy in the postseason for them and what was what was the reason always some foot injury leg injury or something like that right he he getting CR he getting creamed in the middle of the field they got him running they got they [ __ ] quarterback running getting creamed in the middle of the field like he Josh Allen who should already be dead like come on bro that he is not going to last if they play like that the whole season I put money on it I put I put five on it after 10 games if he play that same style of football putting up 100 plus yards on the ground I don't want to put that in the air I want I want my boy he no but I'm saying I mean obviously want him healthy I don't want them to play him like that that's my point it's like stop playing him like that that's stupid bro run out of bounds get out of bounds slide kneel get out get down like he he was taking off though the little game I did right he dropping his shoulder like bro he looked like he turned into Cam Newton he went from being a fast get out of bounds Runner into Cam Newton like hey bro watch that tape bro right he want to lose he don't want he tired of losing to the Chiefs bro he tired of losing to the Chiefs that's fine yeah I mean I get that but you do not need to get hurt BR you're stupid you said your favorite team is the Ravens n that's crazy is crazy bro so I guess I know one listen I'm to see Caleb all in them goddamn Titans Caleb 40 one for f i don't hear nothing that boy will ever just looking spred just like what did you spred just dandy and spred just for sure bro you know what special and I don't even know what you saying marvelous just looking like a real good quarterback like we going come we going to come back on here next Sunday like you know what it's a little too early they don't even deserve a song for what I'm to say a even bag of the Nam oh you don't have you got nothing for us for real n bro for DJ bro got pay my that's right that's right okay all right go ahead man you know just camera oh man hold on bro hold on you know just for you man you even though Nick did enough for us already man I got you though bro that's cool yo this is crazy yo this is crazy this the first time yeah for sure we doing it though we doing it yo he this [Laughter] [ __ ] you listening man you you you listening bro all right man you know my hate with P Pedro Mahomes is not because he's not good bro you know what I'm saying you know everybody know he's the best quarterback in the league argu could be the goat all that breaking our records we get that bro we get that my hate comes from him being good bro you gotta have that one hater man you can't want the good guy to win you can't have a good guy win all the time [ __ ] I want the Joker to win [ __ ] [ __ ] I want the dope dealer to get away with the dope that's crazy I want I want Josh Allen I want Josh burrow out I want somebody to step up and beat this [ __ ] and until it happens anybody you put against him I'm pick him but we all know he's the goat bro but the same at the end of the day bro I'm always gonna go for the other team man it's crazy beon that's crazy that man said O3 Beyonce is actually insane now they got Taylor Swift unfortun we do we do got little B Melo put the mic on you so he can they can get you they listen mses like the Prototype he's not even the best that's gonna be like the best in the next 30 Years I guarantee it's gonna be a [ __ ] better than him but what we seeing out of him that [ __ ] just legendary do hey facts facts facts it's just a win ass bro that's all Lear to like be in the nextons hey fact so they three DJ away from his be us how much how much we putting up how much we putting up my [ __ ] said the Stealers suck right now got just D on the three PE say heard it here all right bro we we GNA [ __ ] with you bro we gonna be on later all right but with that being said right right facts fact facts facts I ain't showing my face no more y'all care about that Mor podcast y'all better not let them boys win cuz Hey this could be the last season we on our we on our TNT [ __ ] bro hey yo that's crazy on that note man I am good got one though bro it's basketball go for it go for it basketball player man he got a cool nickname man say the nick name cuz damn no he wasn't the starting neither but he was he was a good player though at the end of the day answer I really got two I got two up but first one was achievement won one ring okay made the first team all rookie 200 season won the six man once career average is 132 and four I play you said 13 two and four yep how many seasons did you play one ring six Man of the Year 13 15 17 18 19 seasons one two three four five six he got one ring though one ring 19 season six teams but you know him really with one team okay wait wa wait wait wait wait wait wait can I get the chance you said he won first team all rookie in 2000 the year 20 2000 okay so he's a r in 2000 then you said he won one ring and then you said he got a six man got a six-man okay and he got one ring he can't tell us how soon he's gonna give it away oh uh get crazy then yeah hold on hold on hold on one ring though and he we known for one team um was the ring late wait was the ring later or earlier later towards the end more than it was towards the beginning he wouldn't have been a rookie in 20 I was gonna say Gary pton but he would have been a rookie at that point um he wondered when he was still being effective though he wanted doing his prime but it was still towards end Jason kid no but I mean he would had way more he was he was a Jason kid teammate Richard Jefferson no bro it can't be well I think it is uh that that don't even make sense uh what's it no Ken it couldn't be Kenya Martin um his best seon Jason Terry Jason Terry hey I say hey six man I thinking about six man I like who the [ __ ] got a six man y be Jason Terry all I heard was crickets you said not for real the last one man another basketball man his Prime in the way too soon he was one of them [ __ ] man five time Allstar D Rose first time all rookie in the year 2011 d second team NBA he would have been a rookie then 2017 you said wait what happened in 2017 second team guard uh BL so wait but wait wait say the mades one more time five time Allstar y second te mynba once in 2011 First Team all rookie thought he was a rookie in 2011 then clearly y five time I start him point guard can't be Darren Williams career averages 18 and n i he was a guard or a point guard point guard 18 4 and nine he played for three teams but you definitely only know him for one Darren Williams it can't be Darren Williams uh can I get the three teams no um defin it's definitely I could have got away with the Jason T but this definitely G get soon as you say that first name it's GG okay wait wait wait two team no don't even give us the two teams uh five time Allstar second all NBA wait I'mma get this though hold on but 2011 uh oh Steve Francis no not Steve Franc that's too old um uh wait these are teams he played with play with he got more [ __ ] than that the dude I'm thinking about okay so the other team is the team you actually known for but you a say it Okay um one of them bro JJ ready no uh he's one of them he's one of them a leite guard top five point guard doing his prime so he got hurt I don't know about top five top five and N Darren C I'm tripping I'm trying to think he a star the five time Allstar okay yeah y I know who it is hold on wait wait but just you gotta let me think though because it's like he a point guard paid for them two teams and then 1849 I feel like he's on the tip of my t though I got know who this is it's just that you shouldn't have say them teams though I feel like that's confusing me now because now I'm trying to think about who I even think about them teams bro I don't even think about the team yeah cuz I'm G say that can't be the team he known for where he got the allst stars at is it yeah wait East or West Conference Team East that's what the original team was okay second team M NBA in [Music] 20177 trying to think of who was a rookie at that time you feel me that's what I'm like my mind cuz that's like after KD now y so that's after Steph that would after Steph now who was that good to get five allars you know him bro I mean obviously if you're Allstar yeah but injuries man you said he a point guard point guard he's not he definitely can't be Brandon Roy because he's not a point guard he that's too many accolades anyway um he's know from Easter Co y want to wait no no I don't hold on hold on let me see thinking about the Eastern Conference real [Laughter] quick cuz it can't be Kim though I'm like damn I'm trying to think of who this could be don't know it bro I mean that's why I want you to give me them cuz I know it's like that last piece information is probably that like okay that's exactly this nickname you probably Ain never heard him go by this nickname what's the nickname Optimus dime man shut up is insane like you never heard of nobody that's crazy like what no y want a jersey color good yeah Jersey color at this point you might number two 2011 is too far back to be Alonzo so two who the [ __ ] was number two in EAS K yeah I know bro no bro I know this here it can't be this is funny though that just information you gave me my brain Aaron Brooks or somebody what the [ __ ] I'm trying to think think oh God when he said the Rockets you don't even think about the rockets and Clippers that just didn't even happen basically it didn't he play uh 2011 Rookie he a point guard that was cold cold injury so he retired he's retired now yeah you say MVP can't be D Rose that why I'm saying injuries is hilarious cuz all like damn how bad wait yeah no you say Eastern it can't be Shan Livingston you said Easter okay way too can't be eoda he not a point guard anyway um [ __ ] I'm trying to think like that's a long spend of time though I'm trying to point guard was Jason Terry obviously you start in the East can't be kid can't be they the Legends he a new Legend he a what he a new Legend so he a legend like you call he leg but I mean like I'm going to say bro there's no way he notable in your mind yeah he definitely notable though yeah it is little r for sure BR I feel like this got to be simple it is bro we all right so you say the team we G to know who it is what what color of the Jersey is red blue and white what the [ __ ] like so that's like could be n it can't be it it can't be bro cuz who the [ __ ] was on the 76ers nobody I ain't saying it's them but it's not them bro white and blue too no it's not them bro um not the magic wait is it Mark FS no he ain't never been allar no I'm tripping um you said red white and blue what [ __ ] the Knicks no one I don't know like red white wait hold on no red white and blue how do we not know what team that is it's going to get up like hold on wait no you got the magic you got the magic you got the the Wizards bro oh John W yeah what the [ __ ] they call John optim man so uh you know thank y'all for tuning in man bro you know what that's crazy though we don't forgot about that man like that though sorry John Wall godamn bro my bad G but that that career average [ __ ] me up though cuz if you have said like I should have asked you for his starting numbers cuz that probably would let me know but the 18 sound like too little for John so was like I that but the Rockers and the Clippers you should have never said the Clippers the Clippers made it more confusing you right if you just said the Rockets I would have remembered but you said the Clippers you should have never said that that is so much extra confusion yeah we definitely should have asked for his like first and second year numbers that would have made that way easier I remember his promise them accolades is crazy though them accolades is hilarious like who is this for Pokemon is well oh that was hilarious we sorry John W Hey so uh we at that part of the video we at the end of the video y'all like subscribe comment do all the good stuff below tell us who's better Lamar or Patrick we know what you gonna say also tell us who you think going to the AFC Championship who's going to win it all and who's your team you rooting for this Sunday I really do want to see what type of teams we have people like go let me know if you've ever heard somebody called John W Optimus down you won't believe what his other nickname was right and on that note than