Vance saying Harris should 'go to hell' over Afghanistan was 'clearly a performance'

SHE AND RUNNING MATE WALZ WILL SIT DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW. WITH US NOW THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS FOR THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION AND TIM WARNER, FORMER COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR FOR JEB BUSH'S 2016 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN AND AN MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST. HOW MUCH IS RIDING ON THIS INTERVIEW? >> WELL, I THINK THEY'RE GOING EVERYWHERE AND CONNECTING VOTERS. THE CNN INTERVIEW TONIGHT IS ONE OF THE TOOLS IN THEIR TOOL BOX FOR DOING THAT. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEY DID IN CHICAGO FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION AND JUST LIKE THEY'RE DOING TODAY IN SOUTH GEORGIA WITH VOTERS. IT WILL BE A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE AND SHARE THEIR OPTIMISTIC VISION FOR THE COUNTRY. >> DO YOU THINK IT'S FAIR CRITICISM OF THE VICE PRESIDENT THAT SHE HASN'T HAD A MAJOR INTERVIEW UNTIL TODAY? AS YOU SAID, WE'RE JUST -- OVER A MONTH SINCE SHE TOOK THE TOP OF THE TICKET. >> LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONE OF THE MANY TOOLS IN THE TOOL BOX. I THINK SHE'S CONNECTING WITH SUPPORTERS ON THE TRAIL TAKING QUESTIONS. HER AND GOVERNOR WALZ ARE OUT THERE MIXING IT UP WITH FOLKS. THE INTERVIEW IS A GREAT WAY TONIGHT. I SAW GOVERNOR WALZ ON THE SUBWAY AND IS CONNECTING WITH VOTERS ABOUT WHO HE IS AND WHAT THE TICKET WILL BRING. I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY WAYS THEY'RE GETTING OUT THERE, GOING EVERYWHERE, CONNECTING TO THE VOTERS THEY NEED TO WIN IN NOVEMBER. >> TIM, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR TONIGHT? >> WELL, I THINK THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN THE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALZ WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THEM IN BACK-TO-BACK SPEECHES. SORT OF SITTING DOWN IN A FORMAL SETTING WILL BE INTERESTING. I'LL BE LOOKING FOR HOW KAMALA HARRIS ADDRESSES THE WAYS IN WHICH HER AGENDA FOR THIS CAMPAIGN IS DIFFERENT FROM THE 2019 CAMPAIGN. SHE'S MOVED TO THE MIDDLE ON A FEW ISSUES, WHICH I'M UNHAPPY ABOUT. SHE'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT AND GIVE A RATIONALE FOR THAT. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW SHE DOES IT AND CONTRASTS WITH DONALD TRUMP. THE NICE THING ON THIS IS DONALD TRUMP AND J.D. VANCE HAVE CHANGED THEIR MINDS ON A MILLION THINGS TOO. I THINK AS LONG AS SHE CAN GIVE A POWERFUL RATIONALE, A FORWARD-LOOKING RATIONALE AND CONTRAST HERSELF WITH THE REPUBLICANS, YOU KNOW, I THINK SHE'LL BE FINE. I THINK THEY SHOULD DO MORE OF THESE REALLY. >> GOP VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE J.D. VANCE GOT HEATED WHEN TALKING ABOUT TRUMP'S VISIT TO ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY. HERE'S SOME OF WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. >> TO HAVE THOSE 13 AMERICANS LOSE THEIR LIVES AND NOT FIRE A SINGLE PERSON IS DISGRACEFUL. KAMALA HARRIS IS DISGRACEFUL. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A STORY OUT OF THOSE 13 BRAVE, INNOCENT AMERICANS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES, IT'S THAT KAMALA HARRIS IS SO ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL THAT SHE WON'T EVEN DO AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT HAPPENED. SHE WANTS TO YELL AT DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HE SHOWED UP? SHE CAN -- SHE CAN GO TO HELL. >> VANCE TOLD MSNBC HE WAS FRUSTRATED WHEN HE MADE THOSE COMMENTS. WE'VE OFTEN TALKED ABOUT MESSAGE, STICKING TO MESSAGE AND HOW YOU DELIVER A MESSAGE. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS LINE OF ATTACK? >> YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S FRUSTRATED. I THINK HE WAS ACTING. J.D. VANCE IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE IN HIS OWN SKIN. IT WAS CLEAR THAT WAS A PERFORMANCE TO ME. LOOK, I THINK THAT WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID AT ARLINGTON WAS THE DISGRACEFUL THING. THE ARMY PUT OUT A STATEMENT TODAY, WHICH THEY NEVER DO. IT'S NOT UP TO DONALD TRUMP AND THE PEOPLE HE'S WITH TO DECIDE IF HE CAN VIDEO. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SERVED OUR COUNTRY HONORABLY THAT LIE IN THOSE GRAVE STONES. OUTSIDE OF THAT HORRIFIC DECISION BY TRUMP AND VANCE, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE VICE PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT TO CONTACT THOSE WHO DIED AT ABBEY GATE, TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW SHE ENVISIONS MOVING FORWARD ON FOREIGN POLICY. I DON'T THINK SHE NEEDS TO CARRY THE BAGGAGE FROM WHAT WAS A MESSY WITHDRAWAL. SHE WAS NOT IN THE -- SHE'S NOT IN THE LINE OF COMMAND. JOE BIDEN WAS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. IT'S A NEW TICKET, A NEW POTENTIAL COMMANDER IN CHIEF. I THINK IT WOULD APPROPRIATE FOR HER TO DO THAT. >> HOW HEATED DO YOU THINK THINGS WILL GET IN THE NEXT 68 DAYS? >> WELL, IT MAKES ME SAD THAT J.D. VANCE TOOK IT THERE. I THINK IT'S A REAL CONTRAST AGAINST TO THE JOY AND OPTIMISM THAT WE'RE SEEING FROM GOVERNOR WALZ AND VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. THEY'RE OUT ON THE TRAIL TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS, HOW THEY'LL PROTECT FREEDOMS LIKE ABORTION RIGHTS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT BOTH SIDES TO TAKE IN THE ELECTION. J.D. VANCE IS A LITTLE OUT OF HIS SKIN AND IS BEING A LITTLE WEIRD TO PUT IT IN GOVERNOR WALZ'S TERMS. THEY HAVE A WEIRD AGENDA FOR THE COUNTRY THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT.