Harris can win this election 'without doubt' the more appearances she makes: Kasich

BIDEN, AND IT HAD VERY LITTLE ULTIMATE IMPACT ON HIS SUPPORT LEVEL. I WOULD THROW A LITTLE BIT OF CAUTION TO THE WIND ON THIS. >> YEAH, CHUCK, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT JUST THE EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WITH YOU OVER THE YEARS. I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE AT THE TOWN HALL THAT WE CARRIED OUT IN LAS VEGAS WITH HILLARY CLINTON AND BERNIE SANDERS AND LATER OF COURSE THE PRESIDENTIAL -- THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES IN 2020 SEASON. THOSE TEN CANDIDATES. WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS MISSING AS FAR AS JUST STRUCTURE OF DEBATES? >> IT'S HARD TO STRUCTURE WHEN DONALD TRUMP'S INVOLVED, IN FAIRNESS TO THE DEBATE MODERATORS. DO I WISH THERE WAS SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS ISSUE, YEAH, I DO, BUT AGAIN, AS MUCH AS I COULD SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'D OF DONE IT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP IS THIS SORT OF -- HE'S JUST SOMEBODY THAT BRINGS CHAOS TO A SITUATION. SO I THINK ANY OTHER SET OF CANDIDATES YOU WOULD HAVE WANTED A MORE STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT, LET'S SPEND THE FIRST TEN MINUTES ON INFLATION, THE NEXT TEN ON REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE WORLD OF DONALD TRUMP. AND I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IN PUTTING ON ANY EVENT THAT INCLUDES DONALD TRUMP. >> ALENCIA, WHAT STOOD OUT TO YOU FROM LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE? >> SO MANY THINGS STOOD OUT TO ME. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL. SHE COMMANDED THAT STAGE LAST NIGHT, IN NOT ONLY THE WAY SHE DELIVERED HER VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA, THIS OPPORTUNITY ECONOMY THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE, EVEN THE WAY THAT SHE NONVERBALLY SHOWED UP. SHE COMMANDED THE STAGE AND THE VIEWERS FROM THE MOMENT SHE WALKED IN, AND ACTUALLY FORCED DONALD TRUMP INTO SHAKE HER HANDLE, AND, YOU KNOW, THE THING I APPRECIATED IS THAT WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WAS HER VISION FOR AMERICA. SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PLANS AROUND THE ECONOMY, AROUND ABORTION ACCESS, AND YET HER NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION IS WHAT SHOWED US HER REACTION TO DONALD TRUMP. SHE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO US IN TWO WAYS. I DO THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS EXTREMELY RATTLED, RIGHT? AT ONE POINT, HE WAS THE DISRUPTIVE CANDIDATE, I WOULD SAY IN A NEGATIVE WAY, THE DISRUPTIVE CANDIDATE IN OUR PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS SHOWED THAT SHE IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT IS DISRUPTING THIS NOTION OF WHO SHOULD BE IN LEADERSHIP, WHO SHOULD BE IN POWER, AND THE REALITY IS SHE HAS THIS BROAD COALITION THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO ALL THE WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, PROGRESSIVE LEFT TO REPUBLICANS WHO ARE TIRED OF DONALD TRUMP. AND SO I APPRECIATE IT, THE WAY THAT SHE HELD HER OWN IN THE DEBATE, AND I APPRECIATE THE MODERATORS FOR CORRECTING THE RECORD ON SOME OF THE OUTLANDISH THINGS HE WAS SAYING PARTICULARLY ABOUT EATING DOGS AND CATS AND IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE THAT, THE TWO CONTRASTS AND THE TWO CHOICES THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION. >> JOHN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE STAGE, RIGHT? AND I'M JUST THINKING, JUST THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND DISCUSS WHETHER PEOPLE ARE EATING DOGS OR NOT IS JUST MIND BLOWING, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. I'M JUST THINKING, WHAT DID YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE DEBATE, JOHN? >> WELL, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF WHO GAINS. DID DONALD TRUMP GAIN? OF COURSE NOT. HE DIDN'T GAIN LAST NIGHT. HE WAS SORT OF A DARKNESS THAT SURROUNDED HIM, AND COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EATING DOGS OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, JUST ONLY OUT OF TRUMP, RIGHT. AND SORT OF DIMINISHES, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER PRESIDENT. I MEAN, THE PRESIDENCY ITSELF. I GET NERVOUS ABOUT THAT, BUT SHE DEFINITELY GAINED, AND I AGREE WITH CHUCK, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SHE'S GAINED, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE. NOW THE QUESTION IS IT'S A FOLLOW UP. SHE'S GOING TO, I BELIEVE SHE HAS TO SIT FOR MORE IN-DEPTH INTERVIEWS, BUT SHE DEFINITELY PUT HERSELF IN A POSITION WHERE SHE CAN BE VIEWED AS A PRESIDENT, AND SHE WAS VERY STABLE. SHE DID A GOOD JOB. NOT AS MANY SPECIFICS AS YOU WOULD LIKE. NOT ENOUGH EXPLANATION FOR SOME OF HER SWITCHES. IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE THESE UNDECIDED VOTERS OUT THERE. TRUMP HAS HIS PEOPLE, AND SHE HAS HER PEOPLE, THERE'S A FIGHT FOR THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S STILL ON THE FENCE, AND I THINK THAT THE MORE SHE CAN APPEAR, PEOPLE WILL GET MORE AND MORE COMFORTABLE. SHE NOW CAN WIN THIS ELECTION, WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> AND ALENCIA, ONE OF THE THINGS SHE WAS VERY SPECIFIC ON, CLEAR AND CONCISE, IS HER ATTEMPTS TO HOLD THE FORMER PRESIDENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PATCH WORK OF ABORTION LAWS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. TAKE A LISTEN TO THIS. >> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED, PREGNANT WOMEN WHO WANT TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM SUFFERING FROM A MISCARRIAGE, BEING DENIED CARE IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT GO TO JAIL, AND SHE'S BLEEDING OUT IN A CAR IN THE PARKING LOT. SHE DIDN'T WANT THAT. HER HUSBAND DIDN'T WANT THAT. A 12 OR 13-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR OF INCEST, BEING FORCED TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM. THEY DON'T WANT THAT. >> ALENCIA, HOW DO YOU THINK VOTERS SAW THIS? >> LISTEN, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED IN THE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM MOVEMENT, I WORKED AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD, SHE HAS BEEN A CHAMPION, EVEN BEFORE SHE BECAME SENATOR, WHEN SHE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND VOTERS ARE LISTENING. THEY REMEMBER THOSE STORIES, AND IT'S NOT JUST DEMOCRATIC WOMEN, NOT JUST INDEPENDENT WOMEN, BUT REPUBLICAN WOMEN WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND A HOME CAN HEAR THEMSELVES IN THAT CONVERSATION. I DO WANT TO PUSH BACK ON THIS NOTION WHERE EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. SHE GAVE NUMBERS AROUND THE POLICIES THAT SHE'S BELIEVING WILL HELP THE ECONOMY. SHE TALKED ABOUT ABORTION ACCESS. SHE WAS HUMANIZING THE ISSUE, AND IT IS REALLY CHALLENGING THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T GET THE SAME SMOKE FROM THE MEDIA AND PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS WHEN HE HAS NEVER ROLLED OUT ANY POLICIES, BUT HE HAS, YOU KNOW, COZIED UP WITH THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED PROJECT 2025 WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE MONITORING WOMEN FOR THE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR BODIES. AND SO VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS GIVING US SPECIFICS, AND IT FEELS VERY MUCH THAT THE BAR IS HIGHER FOR HER GIVEN THAT SHE'S A WOMAN, AND YET DONALD TRUMP, THE BAR IS SO LOW, HE GETS TO SKATE ON BY WITH NO SPECIFICS AT ALL. HE DOES A LOT OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS BUT DOESN'T GIVE SPECIFICS. SHE IS COMPLETELY DISCIPLINED. WE SAW THAT LAST NIGHT. I NEED THE PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ELECTION TO START THINKING CRITICALLY, WHY AREN'T WE ASKING DONALD TRUMP THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFICS THAT WE'RE DEMANDING OF HER. >> AND, CHUCK, ONE ISSUE WHERE TRUMP COULDN'T GIVE SPECIFICS IS IF HE WOULD VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN IF IT REACHED HIS DESK IF HE WERE REELECTED. >> WOULD YOU VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN? >> I WON'T HAVE TO. >> IF I COULD GIVE A YES OR NO BECAUSE YOUR RUNNING MATE, J.D. VANCE HAS SAID YOU WOULD VETO IF IT CAME TO YOUR DESK. >> I DIDN'T DISCUSS IT WITH J.D. IN ALL FAIRNESS. I DON'T MIND IF HE HAS A CERTAIN VIEW. BUT I REALLY DIDN'T. LOOK, WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS IT. >> CHUCK, WHAT'S THE THEORY OR THE POLITICAL, I DON'T KNOW, FOCUS ON THIS? >> LOOK, I JUST WANT TO STEP BACK. THE MOMENT -- I THINK THAT MOMENT CAPTURED WHY JOE BIDEN COULDN'T BEAT DONALD TRUMP, AND WHY KAMALA HARRIS CAN. JOE BIDEN COULDN'T UTTER THE WORD ABORTION. COULDN'T SAY IT. COULDN'T TALK ABOUT IT. SHE IS PUT IT IN PERSONAL TERMS. SHE HUMANIZED IT, AND THEN SHE DID A LITTLE BIT OF BRANDING, WHICH WE'RE NORMALLY USED TO THE RIGHT BEING SUCCESSFUL AT, AND STARTED CALLING IT THE TRUMP ABORTION BANS AROUND THE STATES, AND THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE STICKY. I THINK OF ALL OF THE BACK AND FORTH, THIS WAS THE MOST SUBSTANTIATIVE, AND THIS WAS A REMINDER, I THINK, WHY SO MANY DEMOCRATS WERE CONVINCED BIDEN DIDN'T HAVE WHAT IT TOOK TO WIN THIS CAMPAIGN BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO MAKE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMONG THE FRONT AND CENTER ISSUES. HE WAS UNCOMFORTABLE SPEAKING ABOUT IT, YOU COULD TELL. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT JUST THE ANECDOTES SHE SHARED. JOE BIDEN NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING HIMSELF TO SHARE THAT ANECDOTE. ON THE SPECIFIC, I CANNOT BELIEVE, AMONG THE BIGGEST UNFORCED ERRORS OF THE NIGHT WAS TRUMP'S NOT LETTING THAT HANG OUT THERE THAT HE WOULD NOT VETO AN ABORTION BAN. FRANKLY, IT'S SORT OF A CHEAP WAY OUT FOR HIM. COULD HAVE BEEN AN EASY WAY OUT FOR HIM TO CONTINUE TO MUDDLE HIS POSITION, AND IT'S SUCH A HEAD SCRATCHER, CONSIDERING WHERE HE WAS TEN DAYS AGO WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TRY TO COME OUT AGAINST OR COME OUT FOR THE ABORTION AMENDMENT AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMOUNT IN FLORIDA, AND SUDDENLY HIS CAMPAIGN TEAM SAYS ALL OF YOUR VOLUNTEERS ARE GOING TO QUIT OVERNIGHT IF YOU DO THIS, AND HE REVERSED COURSE. I THINK THAT MOMENT, AND HIS INABILITY TO PROMISE HE WOULD VETO AN ABORTION BAN, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IN MORE ADS THAN ANYTHING IN THE DEBATE. >> BEFORE WE GO, IF YOU COULD PUT INTO SOME KIND OF CONTEXT, THE WHOLE ISSUE, YOU'RE FROM OHIO, RIGHT, AND THE WHOLE THING THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WENT ON AND ON ABOUT THAT MIGRANTS ARE EATING PEOPLE'S PETS. >> LOOK, I THINK THERE'S AN EXTREMISM HERE ON IMMIGRATION THAT IS JUST NOT FRANKLY PART OF WHAT THE CULTURE OF AMERICA HAS BEEN. AND HE'S TRYING TO STOKE EVERYBODY'S FEARS. IT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY I HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAN. IT'S THIS DIVISIVE NATURE, IF I CAN LAY THIS OUT AND SCARE PEOPLE, THEN WE CAN MAKE THESE FOLKS WHO COME HERE THE ENEMY. WE ALL KNOW THE BORDER NEEDS TO BE SECURED. WE KNOW THAT. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A HISTORY OF ALLOWING IMMIGRANTS TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRY LEGALLY. IN FACT, WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR, I SAID, LOOK, IF ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME HERE WHO'S AN IMMIGRANT, WE WANT YOU TO COME HERE. WE WANT YOU TO BE PART OF OUR ECONOMY, BE PART OF OUR CULTURE, OUR SOCIETY. SO I THINK THIS IS AN EXTREME WAY TO TRY TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE, AND THOSE CLAIMS TO ME, WHEN I HEARD IT, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. MY WIFE WAS IN A ANOTHER ROOM, AND SHE WAS LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. IT'S THIS EFFORT TO