The Connor Stalions Netflix Documentary Was BAD for Michigan!

I'm going to let bro casual give his thoughts on the stallions Netflix documentary sign Steeler uh bro casual this this was uh Untold and we were told most of it but we were told about it what were your thoughts that's that's funny because I actually live streamed it on Twitter it got taken down off YouTube I tried to do both and it like got removed off YouTube but that's besides the point I said that exact same thing I was like most of this has been told so far this is not really Untold but I will say I learned some things from this documentary so if I could I'm going to go quickly but I have some anti- mishigan takes and some pro- Michigan takes that I took away from the doc documentary and I'll start with the anti- Michigan stuff first of all I think we all knew this already but it got confirmed to me finally you know for sure stallions was at the central Michigan game and Dave pornoy was the one that confirmed that he was there told the documentary crew that Connor told him that he was definitely the guy that was there number two Connor stallions definitely bought tickets and gave tickets to friends and family and received back film that he used to like kind of decipher signs and his excuse of I already knew the signs so them sending me the signs didn't really help me just does not fly with me it just doesn't work and that's cheating and then the third thing is that uh you know Conor stallions is just a huge douchebag I think that was the big takeaway from the documentary in general um he said that he didn't want attention but then he went to the Ohio State game he was talking about how he dapped up Michael Barrett after the game and he went to the National Championship G me had a camera crew following him in there but he didn't want attention though so that's just kind of weird to me and then quickly the pro Michigan stuff he quit or got fired whatever happened they tried to make that a big deal it doesn't matter to me how he left Michigan Michigan still went on to win six more regular season games or whatever it was and then two playoff games so without him there Michigan was still a great team and they won all of those games with the other teams having the knowledge that hey they might be stealing our signs for example Michigan State the first week it came out they called every play in from the sideline and they still lost 49 to Z and I don't believe that they had Alabama or Washington signed so I think said if you're a pro- Michigan person your argument should be well we didn't have him the second half of the Season we still won all those games so that was my takeaway from the whole documentary I don't know I was was he uh you know signing the signs in from the crowd did did did they know where where science was and they were signing him I'm just saying there could be something there no I'm just kidding uh I mean Zach and I are on the record multiple times saying Mich look Michigan didn't need the signs to win the National Championship in 2023 do they did they need the signs to go undefeated in 2022 and to only lose one game in 2021 I don't know about that but I mean that's really hard to decipher but at the end of the day they didn't need it for the last few games there and then they won in the playoffs and had a little bit of help there at the end with Alabama I don't think that was necessarily as uh as dominant of a game of some people say but at the end of the day they didn't beat themselves by some of the stuff in special teams so I mean it they didn't need con stallions to win in 2023 so if if anything like I I get that everybody's celebrating Conor stallions and stuff like that after this because he kind of looks like a martyr he kind of looks like you know I'll take one for the team guys don't worry you guys go on and it's like dude you took one for the team and everybody thinks your team is fraudulent now like your team is the one that took it like I just which to me as a college football fan like if I'm putting my Ohio state fandom the side for a second like that just sucks I hate all this crap about like oh was that Championship real I hate that there are still people that can argue about like the 1940s National Championship who really won that one or like 1997 was it Michigan or Nebraska like that was one of the reasons why I was so excited about the playoffs and actual national championship game we still have Georgia fans that think oh yeah Georgia would have won uh well you didn't you lost so you know get over it but anyway um some of my stuff with it was the NCA I mean they were they W 100% rushed their NOA to get ahead of this because Conor stallion had no idea that they were going to put he was at the central Michigan game in the NOA or in the draft of the NOA uh notice of allegations because he was out there trying to say oh yeah that wasn't me like does this guy even look like me it's like yeah dude he does look like you he looks like somebody put a fake beard on or like grew out their beard for a minute and uh and like we have the notice of allegations or the draft I should say the notice of allegations saying it was you and then literally Dave Porto like two minutes later two minutes earlier it's like oh yeah he was at that game yeah yeah he told me that was the big thing for me like when he admitted it it was like okay obviously it was you but now we have it confirmed yeah yeah H hilariously Dave pornoy on Twitter was like I never said that that was him and I'm like what are you dude it's what are you it's right there what are you doing can you anyway yeah but but my biggest thing that was missing from it right cuz you always get one of these documentary there's always something you want to see that wasn't there my biggest thing actually I have two things this is the biggest one my biggest thing was what H what the heck happened with the vacuums all right there was this whole LLC with Blake Corum and everything Blake Corum said he didn't sign on like I I wanted to hear about that what went on with these vacuums did the vacuums fund the tickets you know like was he just sitting out broken vacuums and and scamming people just so that way he could get tickets people thought they were getting a $500 vacuum and they were actually getting junk like I don't know was that how he was funding the tickets who knows I mean they did bring up Uncle T so maybe he was the one doing it in the uh with it all but uh and then the other thing that I thought was really interesting was like they they literally have ticket receipts for Conor stallions buying tickets on the 50 yard line on both sides of the field at Big 10 games like you're not just buying tickets for your mom so that way she can sit on both sides of the field and like if you're buying tickets for your friends and family why aren't you buying them all together like your friends hate your family like they don't want to sit with your family I like you're buying one ticket on both sides of the I was talking to Zach beforehand about this like no I shouldn't say nobody most people don't go to football games by themselves and like most people don't ride to a football game with somebody else just to sit by themselves on opposite ends of the stadium like what are you going to do wave to each other like hey I'm over here at the 50 yard light like I don't know I just no I think it just plays into and this is my last thing about the anti- Michigan stuff but there was an extreme amount of gaslighting on the part of the Michigan uh whatever you want to call it conglomerate in this documentary it's like the main thing that they said that they kept harping on was like Ohio State hacked our computers that's how they got the information and I kept saying like when I was live streaming I was like why does that matter it doesn't matter where the information came from you if you had the information on your computer you're guilty anyways like that's a completely separate issue sure let's go after Ryan day or whoever the private investigation was after this the facts of the matter are though you did have what you had on your computer and that makes you guilty bro it doesn't matter how the information was obtained there that would kept happening throughout the documentary where they were like well yeah like uh you know he was at the C like on Twitter today for example he was at the central Michigan but you know he was actually helping Central Michigan decipher their signs so he Central Michigan could be closer which is still against the rules like yeah I was like that doesn't matter he was at the game like the amount of deflection and gaslighting I is the perfect words for it from the Michigan fan base and even inside the documentary was just baffling to me yeah uh I'm gonna let Zach uh give his questions here in just a second I just want to say one last thing and this is my last thing Zach you and I said from the very beginning m fans the person you should be mad at here is not your players is not Conor stallion the person you should be mad at here is Jim Harbaugh because if he didn't know what was going on which you know you got a game ball so I don't know maybe you that was kind of weird to me but if he didn't know what was going on like you you've allowed this team that was good enough to win the National Championship in 2023 to have this this asteris or tainted or whatever it is You' you've allowed that to happen because you didn't have enough control of your program to know that the science stealer guy you know had a secret underground Group which just kind of funny to me um and he was going over and Beyond to where it was against the rules I don't know like it just it confirms more and more to me that like if I'm a Michigan fan I'm thrilled about the national championship but man am I am I mad at Jim Harbaugh because like dude just keep a hold of your program because you were good enough you could have done it like you had the super seniors you had everybody you could have done it so anyway Zack you did not watch the um the the documentary so I'm going to allow you to ask one or two questions we don't have time for a bunch but one or two questions about the documentary and me and bro casual all right who's Kent right exactly bro casual will answer our qu your questions as best we possibly can yeah first of all I I apologize for laughing throughout the segment but you know Dylan came on and just started commenting in the chat and I I just could not stop laughing so thank you for that um so this is a bit of a joke question H like how worth how worth it is it to watch this thing like I got I got other things to do like is this worth 87 minutes of my time I'll let you take that bro casual no okay that's that's all my question no um I and see this is the one question and I tweeted about this and I'd be curious your guys thoughts I'm sorry Dylan just cracked me up it's great there's other good comments in here too but this uh legitimately I I'm stupified I would love both of your thoughts on this um a comment that has been thrown around on Twitter that Conor stallion said in the documentary was I don't break the rules I exploit them and part of that I was listening to to someone talk about this that apparently the rule is a little fuzzy about Advanced scouting and so this my question is if Connor stallions just says oh I didn't think we're breaking the rules but it's clear we are I'm sorry we'll stop like does this thing just go like is this thing dead by November of last year I don't know I don't think so actually because I think if he admits guilt last year there he's well first of all I know what he's worried about he's worried that they'll get banned from the playoffs last year and immediately not be able to make it and that was the talk like if you go back to that time that's what everyone was saying like they shouldn't go to the playoffs this year they were trying to get them out of the playoffs that year like opposing fan bases and people that just didn't like Michigan in general so I don't think that he I think he was smart not to do it but now like after the fact I don't know if it really matters if he was just like hey like I know what the rule was and I went and read the rule today it is really vague it just says that there's no in-person scouting allowed and you're not allowed to use uh you know cell phones or cameras to film the other Sidelines he technically didn't do that so I do see where he's coming from like where he's living in that gray area like yeah he he might have bought the tickets and got the got the people to go do that but it wasn't him per se so he is really I mean that's really stretching the rule as far as you can stretch it but it to me unless I'm reading unless I miss something in the rule exactly I don't think that he by the letter of the law broke the broke the rule when it comes to the filming stuff he was at the central Michigan game though yeah that was for sure a broken rule right there and that he can't really deny at this point so um it it to me it just comes down to how much is the NCAA going to punish Michigan versus punishing just Conor stallions for being at that Central Michigan game because the other stuff like you said it's fuzzy it's kind of in the gray area yeah I mean the fuzziness of it um and and Brian is saying here he says he paid people to do it it says you can't send people to do it either I think if I'm I'll have to look up the rule exactly to read it again but I think the rule says like staff members can't be the ones who are going so if Conor stallion is paying that recruiting analyst guy or assistant recruiting director guy to go like yeah he was a staff member for Michigan there there is technically like a rule being broken there but if he's just sending his buddy or his mom to do it like Yeah by the letter of the law I guess he didn't break a rule but I mean the the like the the message of the rule or the intent of the rule is for you not to get that information and if he got it then that's them saying well you sure you didn't do the one part but you still got the information which I guess he could maybe get away with that but I don't know like that just seems like a really far-fetched thing that you're going to get to try and get out of it um I mean I guess you could possibly if your lawyer's really really good but I don't know I I I don't I see where Michigan fans are coming from a little bit there but I don't think it tracks exactly Jr like him being in person and scouting though for sure was broken yeah oh yeah yeah yeah for the central Michigan game which like Josh Peyton said there were other games which I'm like dude Josh you got to put that information out there if there were other games I think there was a picture of somebody that was bald at Western Michigan um a year or two ago or something like that but it wasn't him he just like had a hat on or I don't even know think he hat on I think he was just bald it was like dude you're really stupid here all right uh Zach one more question really fast then we got to move on uh that that was it I I don't really have too many I thought you said you had two oh your first one was if it worth watching so yeah um all right Phillip bro casual or is it Hunter dickon and uh Yankee says I'm watching the Rose bow on mute right now it's the best game of my fan lifetime listen this is exactly what Zach and I have said like the NCAA you you can get rid of it like you can vacate it but the fans still experienced it the footage is still there they're still going to relive it so it was a it was a great game yeah it was a great game to watch I would have peed my pants if I was a Michigan fan watching some of those punt returns