Saints Camp QB Battle

Intro it's game week Saints are playing an actual football game against Arizona Saturday we got you covered for it all your preseason Madness fourth quarter Shenanigans we're ready Thomas hit that intro welcome to the award-winning Saints Happy Hour podcast seriously this podcast has won awards American Standards are dropping every day the show features Ralph the best host in the world who can barely pronounce his own name much like plus anyone else's Marcus Coulson coulston I mean Marcus Callaway Dave is that dude who loves taking bathroom breaks he's mad about almost anything so make sure to lower your volume when he speaks what that freaking clown meme backup that I made Jesus Christ Andrew has sources watches tapes and knows football he rarely shows up on time and wants to commit crimes to help the Saints wi Sean Payton would have done illegal things don't tell me I'm wrong cuz you know it's true oh and there's also Kevin who is great at doing mock drafts but struggles to actually watch Saints games or have a functioning relationship butr wants to know how the doctor's doing that that ended anyway grab a drink sit back and enjoy the [Music] insanity right everybody welcome to another edition of saints Happy Hour podcast I'm Ralph malro I'm joined by Andrew Jude Dave whose vacation unfortunately got cancelled because of a hurricane uh also I want to say hello to everyone in the chat I see Andrew's dad Jason champagne your boy Allan Ali Mourinho Jerry uh ton of people in the chat I can't get to them all thanks for joining us guys uh it's amazing sorry I cracked on the open uh before we start remember to subscribe to St tapy hour wherever you get your podcast and I have to mention about our MVP contest if we reach a $100 in donations tonight which will be a year Andrew a year consecutively 52 weeks in a row that we have reaped $100 if we do it tonight the MVP will of course choose which mini bar bottle from my gigantic mini bar bottle Boo collection I'm going to 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Pepper and bird dog caramel whiskey I'm I'm getting I'm getting ready I could Pro you know what honestly I don't know if they would be um official sponsors and give us cash but I am I'm like 75 or 80% sure I could get you a good amount of free Dr Pepper product if you wanted it I can get Dr Pepper Cherry yes I'm dead serious uh I I know somebody who's high up in in DP you know a guy I know a guy I love DP in in fact I I produced some Dr Pepper merch myself for him so uh I feel like is about to make a DP joke I'm looking I phrased I phrased it the way I phrased it uh but anyway I am drinking uh while we're while we're hyping up my buddy's companies uh I'm drinking uh parlo beer lab in the by water go see them go buy them buy their beer here now it's their IPA you can't see the can because the thing is so bright but anyway it's delicious go see Eric and his wife Leah they make great great beer well Dave I know that Thomas hates it when we drag out the drinking part so uh I have five rums here and I'm gonna let you pick which one I drink comfortable Thomas yeah yeah I've got diplomatico [ __ ] you George uh this is a Venezuelan rum I I'm going to be honest it's a 2005 single vintage I have had this before I'm not a big fan which is why it's still pretty full but if you pick that I'll have it uh if you really hate me this is probably my least favorite of the bunch this is a local Charlottesville rum it's called V it's it's uh it's made locally here it's not very good yes that one should I keep going or is that your pick that's the pick that's the you said it's my least favorite we ended there we ended there that's the one all right that's the one but just just for just because there's somebody at home listening or in their car listening what was behind door number three yeah all right uh I have a 12-year-old Florida Kan oh that's delicious is almost dunzo you can see there's a littleit get that uh you're also going to like this one this is a traditional Jamaican rum Smith and cross no oh that's yeah that's I think you actually many ago recomended I that was was your first foray into rum in fact that's what I was going to say is I feel like um you didn't even drink rum until like two years ago or the pandemic when I start like I I literally am the reason why you drink rum yeah yeah and now you have like five six you now have an assortment of ple plethora of Bott pleora pick pick the one that Dave said was hor this this is Kill Devil Hill spice this is what Prince Harry left at my house oh yeah no no no Prince har that's what I've been drinking the last pick the one that Dave said was terrible that's the one well I said it was terrible but yeah I didn't say I don't know anything about so the saints were off today Spencer Rattler practiced yesterday uh he got to run with the twos because Spencer Rattler did you mean Jesus did you mean Jesus practice spicy you mean God yeah I mean listen you're talking over tonight this is exactly what I was talking about Ralph is the one that talks over the thing Ralph is the guy who doesn't know when to shut up when we get the donation and to let the thing play that's coming from Dave think about that exactly right so now we have I'm sorry Thom play it again again interrupting Mr ju's donation oh interception oh wait it's Mr ju never mind we don't need to hear this assist oh D kid I will I'm just kidding that was the joke I did that on purpose play third time play it a third time play it a third time by the way need some serious assistance tonight come on by the way this still counts as the what are you drinking segment and by the just so clear by the way by the by way this is much better than I uh thought than I remembered damn it that out if we reach 52 weeks entire year next week Thomas has created or will create the wheel of Mountain Dew shame and it will Spin and I will have to drink I had to do that last year I I will have to drink the Mountain Dew with one of these things uh as my drink for the show and doing this and Thomas every level we reach next week instead of doing one shot I will do two shots oh [ __ ] because to celebrate uh a year so like next week if if we reach this week you can get me plastered next week for the record I remember I had I did all of these I did vodka tequila rum whiskey and wine I did all five last year I don't know if you remember yeah I think I do it's disgusting yeah I mean some of them don't look bad but the the wine in Mountain Dew that's just disgusting that was one of the better ones that was one of the better ones so so the Saints we'll get into the depth chart that Thomas say we'll get to that in a minute and we'll get to some news in a minute but I want to start here Saints Saints Twitter is Stirring the Pot Twitter part parts of it certain accounts Andrew disgust me and this is why they are purposely depressing Saints fans and trying to make them not interested in the team and have negative energy and this is my proof Thomas play this sound bite that was going around Twitter of olve and if you listen to it you'd be like oh my God he hates kubak he hates da the offense is gonna suck Chris olve thinks the Saints are dog crap play that sound by Thomas this is what was going around kind of stopped and been like oh we're going to be good this year uh I mean it's okay if it was your yeah not really um that's what they were playing that's they was the question I couldn't hear it that's what they were playing da they're like oh uh what's the offense how's it going to look and he's like ah is it going to be okay he's like no not really and they cut it off and they're like oh Chris he hates kubia he hates da he hates Derek Carr the Saints are going to be trash isn't this terrible our star receiver is badmouthing the team well well did you watch the rest of the clip yes here's the rest of did he say okay Thomas this is the rest of the clip that they didn't play on the twitters let's hear that the rest of kind of felt that during OTAs during spring training uh with the new offensive install uh I know we got the players we got the weapons uh be able to bring that scheme in here is gonna be great so I felt that uh during spring camp normal sound B normal Andrew yeah but why so he just started his sentence with no and then agreed yeah no but I don't no this is still it's still weird I mean why did why did he say no what what I think you know Rafael Nadal does that all the time now there's a language barrier there but he be like no I mean I play great today you know like he always says that well cryst la is American I believe isn't he he speaks American uh isn't he Puerto Rican is he guys is he I have no idea like passport I think so okay wow no idea we got thanks for Tiger jet 21 and Irish pirate getting in joining the chat here's here my thing here's my thing no being negative about the Saints in the summer Dave it's a choice it's a choice you make be negative well that's that's my question is why why is why did Chris olve when he was first asked that sorry quick correction he's Cuban he's of Cuban descent on his father's side however he was born in California okay he's American yeah uh but so to your point Ralph that that's what begging the question like why when asked the question about the offense why was his initial reaction uh I don't know and and like and to me that whole thing like yes I'm glad we played the whole sound bite but like you could also make the argument that like he realized he was being honest in the moment in the in the initial reaction of it all and then had to backtrack and backpedal and just give you the stereotypical stuff so I honestly I I think you're glossing over this no I think you're I I think you're I think you're off on this one okay well that's true like a behind the mic has never been like a go-to for for the pulse and here's of the team here's the thing though why why why not I just don't feel like he you have some players on your team that are like great spokespersons de Mario Davis Cam Jordan Alvin got some guys that are hilarious really right really good behind the mic and other guys that like aren't great public speakers Chris okay well call me crazy but I feel like the guys that are good public speakers those are the guys that know what to say and are going to say what you want to hear and the guys that are not great public speakers are the ones that has always been transparent here's the thing though Dave here's the thing though Dave if you wanted to be if you want to have that discussion about olve what he you could have played the whole sound bite like we did but on Twitter they didn't and it was big giant Saints accounts playing the just the first five seconds because they want to depress the Saints fan base and get them less excited about isn't that kind of the way of the internet though like you just screenshot whatever like however you needed to frame your argument can you play the whole sound bite straight through can I hear it again uh I don't have the whole sound ready oh oh you don't have the whole thing oh come on I'm going the sexy clip you just have the sexy clip that everybody wants to hear and then you just have the Bor I I I won't let you [ __ ] talk me I won't let you [ __ ] me you're just like the MSM man I think I think Dave is team those websites you're complaining about Dave is team dve is team Saints are going to be terrible okay I have it ready all right go play it I have it ready the whole clip you kind of stop and been like oh we're going to be good this year uh I mean it's okay if it was your own yeah not really um I kind of felt that during OTAs during spring training uh with the new offensive install uh I know we got the players we got the weapons uh be able to bring that scheme in here is going to be great so I felt that during spring camp what's what's I don't think like I don't think what was the and what was the original question I don't I think that's where we're misfiring here I think she I think he's saying not really like it's okay if you didn't say it like I think she was she was quoting something and he was like I not really like I don't think that was my quote Yeah I he was like yeah I was feeling it Min Camp yeah well I want to know what this is a non story why are I just want Dave is wrong and I just want well I I could be wrong because I don't know what the question is and I agree with Andrew like he may just be this this whole thing might be just total confusion but I'm just saying that's what happens when Crystal speaks that's my point he's not like one of these guys where you really like understand what he's saying but my point is there is a faction on Saints Twitter Facebook wherever I see them all over they wanted this to be true your point is that point is that people want this to be true and they're taking it and they're running with it and they they want to continue to spread the word that would I get it actually you know what I'm gonna back here I don't even think this is on crystal La the reporter is it to blame like I don't even understand what she's asking poor well poor reporters reporters ask really poor questions because if you ask you they they're rambling they're in many parts and all this I'm just saying reporters podcast hosts yes that can you imagine ralphing these players Ralph's always you know armchair quarterbacking the media and being like oh why aren't they asking the tough questions but if Ralph was on the podium asking these players questions can you imagine the fumbles that would come out of his No actually that's partially true at the beginning but I got coached and this is how you ask a question you when you ask a question needs to be short who what when where why so they can't answer yes or no if you do that the questions are good right never I was terrible at first I'll probably be terrible again because I haven't done it in like 20 years um so I just you've been hosting a podcast for the last 20 years R you're doing fine like if you talk but I mean we just interviewed Brett marel two days if you told me that Chris alve had a podcast I probably wouldn't listen to it oh wow I would not it's mean I probably would not I'm to be fair to be fair I probably would not listen to Ralph was about to interrupt me mid-sentence to be fair to be to be fair I probably would not listen to a lot of saints players podcast Have you listened to Ingram and c I have not a level you even listen to this podcast Dave do you even listen to this one Ingram and yes I do listen to and Jord are very entertaining I I I tried to listen to Bush rods podcast oh I like that one it's not bad oh yeah we forgot to you got you gotta keep things moving for me I don't know I'm New York so like I said the saints were off but Looking at Saints Depth Chart the big thing from the the big thing that happen is they released the depth chart uh The Unofficial depth chart and it had some interesting stuff on it Andrew um Sal dear is not starting guard and the defensive tackle Boyd is running with the second is running with the twos Thomas can you put up can you can you put up the uh the depth chart there we go it's kind of small maybe in I'm in my I'm in my 40s Ralph I can't see that well yeah pull up the microphone Theos scope and the the the extra tragic news the extra tragic news at strong safety my boy Millard Filmore he's running with the fours so he's gonna be cut he's gonna be cut any day now um what does what does the red mean are they injured they are injured yes okay yes so does any starting tight end since Shan does anything sheer strike you Andrew or Dave that surprising well I I still think our offensive line sucks uh I think in in particular left guard and right tackle I'm most concerned uh I don't I don't think Penning is ready to start I I don't think Lucas Patrick is any good so Jes I I would say that uh offensive line is a major major question mark now I do think the scheme makes playing offensive line a little bit easier so I think they'll be able to smoke in Mirror it a little bit and I maybe they'll be okay but there are two huge question marks on the offensive line and and I know I'm kind of repeating myself from previous podcast but we're not even like talking about left tackle we're we're just assuming the rookie has played a damn snap in his entire like his his NFL career will start on September what is it the 6th against the Panthers so like we're just assuming it's going to be fine there and I don't know that it is it's just by comparison to the other question marks we have it feels pretty solid Soh offensive Line's a big question mark tight end sucks tight end like Foster Maro is your starter and then the next best guy is a udfa that's undiz like tight end hair is amazing though yeah his hair is amazing but here C's unhappy about his deal you know running back is is not that deep so like I'm looking at this offense and like that's great that ubx going to save the day and Spencer Rattler according to the fan base might start week one and he's the next Patrick Mahomes that's all great but I am I'm very concerned Spencer Rattler his his hat during that interview was absolute fire but I have um I have some notes as well I have well I have a question for you I have a question for you you can ask me the question after I'm done talking go no no put the put the thing back I need to reference the the roster uh depth chart um one thing T Hill fourth quarterback wow what an insult uh I thought he was better than that a quarterback I guess not so we're not gonna see much of tesm Hill this year I guess um a guy that has cancer yeah I mean come on that's serious like seriously the guy with cancer cancer yeah uh and then um here's something that I I I did I'm surprised Andrew didn't mention Brian bie uh not starting he's a number one draft pick I second year uh he should be starting right he should be number one on the death right what's up with that what going on what are we doing had a little foot injury had a little foot injury I have a reaction to that um well first of all is it an allergic reaction uh just because he's not listed as a starter doesn't mean he's not going to play and not going to play meaningful snaps I think Bry is the best pass rushing defensive tackle they have by far pass rushing Downs he's definitely playing he's definitely gonna have more sacks than any of those guys this season don't don't threaten me with a good time Andrew however however if he wants to play more and get more snaps he's going to have to get better against the Run here's my question and this will fre this will freak out Saints Twitter if it happens and of course they the pitchforks will come out for Mickey Lumis even more more than they already are Andrew I look at this depth chart I see Jaylen Ford a draft pick third string I don't even see bum memes anywhere on the wide receiver depth chart that could be yeah two draft picks are they in real danger of not making this team which yeah they may or may not clear waivers I don't know but they weren't like they were like fifth round picks right so yeah that'd be that'd be is that a little bit of a red flag that if that you got two guys that are middle of the round not making I think bang up a little bit but he he's he's been pretty good and so I I think he still has a shot and you know we always talk about what those guys special teams is huge but but linebacker feels really deep you know um and so I think it might be you know you start on the you get cut you you get put on clear waivers you get put on the practice squad and then you know an injury has to happen for you to get elevated at some point the season with bub memes like I don't know what to tell you man like it it's kind of like Kendra Miller like at some point you got to be healthy can we just pretend Tipton was the pick but does that really matter does it really matter if you came this is the part that like people lose their [ __ ] about a fifth round pick that gets cut and then udfa is the one that does well and he makes the team like what difference does it make there's something about burning the draft pick that really chaps fans right like a udfa that makes a team it's like if Pierre Thomas made the team like are you really gonna rake the Saints over the Kohls for Dra Antonio Pitman yeah are you gonna dra rake them over the Kohls about the Pitman pick or should you celebrate the fact that they found Pier Thomas much later and he was better like you know here's the question memes may get the the red shirt uh is Jason champagne saying in the chat um here here's a question they they play Arizona 7:00 on Saturday uh in Arizona so I have just a couple of things my first thing Andrew is should da play the starters or more specifically the potential starting offensive line more than usual because they got to get the Kinks worked out and yes as fans we always worry about injuries injuries injuries but like the Saints aren't this perennial playoff team where they know who's going to play they have the depth chart locked in like the 2018 2019 2020 Saints like this offensive line needs to play a ton injuries be damned uh would you agree with that statement yeah yes I think this team feels a lot more like 2006 where Shawn pton was like everybody's playing and we're playing you deep into the preseason no one has jobs on lockdown um you better you better come and talk to me before the game otherwise I'm bringing my Blitz uh if if you don't if you don't do the uh the usual uh you know coaching uh Nici tradition yeah exactly I'm gonna your ass I I feel less that way on the defensive side of the ball just because they have a lot of established guys that are solid players and i' I'd rather especially Cam Jordan really in each phase like you got Cam Jordan on the defensive line de Mario Davis at linebacker Latimore at corner teron Matthew at safety so those guys like we know they're going to start I don't really need to see a lot of those guys in preseason like let's just keep him healthy like get them the Reps they need get him out of there quickly and um and there's a lot of guys like I don't need to see a ton of Granderson I don't really care if Chase young doesn't play much like we know those guys but like yeah it's like going back to the offense I don't know who our number two tight end is I don't know who our number I I think it's Jamal Williams but I don't know who our number two running back is I don't know who's catching passes for us at tight end I don't know who's making plays I don't know who's starting at left guard you know I know Penning is starting at right tackle because we don't have anyone else but like I definitely want him to get some rep so I feel like more on the offensive side of the ball especially with the new playbook like let's put a bunch of guys out there and see who makes plays you don't know who's starting because they haven't signed him yet off of the street that too yeah that is that is so mean and yet so true uh Thomas give us a donation update where are we not high and we we just had a record I thought we had some big celebration or something going on and this is not uh for one year one straight year this is not the way we plan to celebrate it what's going on people yeah what's going on yeah we at 38 uh% Andrew's dad is still in the lead with 28 Point fre interception your boy Allen five bucks second place tied with Jason champagne well I'm ready for my next pour and this bottle is kicked because I didn't have much left so uh what what would you like me to take next da I guess uh oh do the the SMI the Smith and cross is Navy strength so do the Smith and cross okay um so yeah I it is $100 go off feel like that I feel like that Walker in the Olympics where she was like celebrating before she crossed the line and she lost and she lost all the medals don't make don't make us be that chick the power did we get to one year last week or would this be the one year this will be 52 weeks this will be 52 weeks we can't have it um yeah we it's good strong stuff so is this Saints QB Battle: Rattler vs Haener Dave is this I think this week is the most exciting backup quarterback Battle of my entire Saints fandom we got sexy we got sex John Canfield uh we had um gar Grayson we had Garett Grayson really how could you say that luk Mac yeah but they weren't battling they were just already in they weren't they weren't having a battle no you no I I mean yeah I guess you're since in the Drew Brees era I guess that's what about the jamus sltm starter though Teddy Bridgewater triumphant that's that was for starter all right what about Teddy versus T for back that was that a thing for backup I don't think that was a thing I don't I don't remember that being a thing I I was just trying to be like we got sexy J Kaner and Spencer Rattler like people that's that's that's I'm I'm I'm looking forward to seeing what the two of them can do uh I mean no one is team Haner right what I yeah why not he's got I mean I just think most people are hoping what you don't like oh you want him to die because you don't like you think cancer is cool easy yeah I get it think you want skin cancer to win I get it all right uh no um I think most people have high hopes for what uh Rattler can be Rattler is built for the preseason man I saw style of running around AR videos from training camp and based on those cell phone videos uh that were filmed vertically he is built [Applause] football's back baby who let go for 20.3 interception tying the MVP so here's here's here's the thing that's interesting to me Andrew too about the preseason and I'm not saying I don't think the NFL teams because I watched the Hall of Fame game a little bit the new kickoff rule they didn't do anything interesting or exciting I think teams are going to save that for the regular season but they're used us to be a thing where I remember you told me um it was JT gray and um who's the guy that went to Carolina the defensive tackle shy Tuttle yeah like shy Tut shy Tuttle wasn't on special teams but you were like man he's playing a ton and JT gray is on all the kick teams so with the new kickoff rules I I wonder if there's a path to making the team with a way that we're not used to you know like do you think do you think they're going to shuffle in a bunch of different guys to try to figure it out no I mean no I don't think it's changed much but I I do think th this remains true I think a lot of fans make the mistake of a you know fourth fifth receiver yeah that scores a couple touchdowns makes a bunch of catches in practice and and you know he's clearly the fourth or fifth best playmaker you know of the receiver group let's say and so but but the problem is you've got a you got Shahed you know some other guys number three let's say in this in this hypothetical by the way where was Shahed on the depth chart starter was he yeah yeah I believe I believe opposite of but but you know so I think you've got these receivers and then you you get a guy like Mason Tipton right and he's like making more plays than you know the other guys here's the thing though when you're the fourth best guy you're not going to play unless there's injuries you're not going to play a lot you're not going to get a lot of snaps and the team is always going to prioritize as their fourth or fifth receiver a guy that has a specialized role either on special teams or he blocks better so here's the catch you could be the fourth best playmaker on the team at receiver and not get a roster spot because a receiver that blocks well or receiver that's good on special teams is prioritized because you're never going to play unless the three guys ahead of him get injured so I think that's the mistake that fans when they and I think our listeners are pretty educated but I think in general you know people make the mistake of assuming oh like he's been making plays in Camp like he's got it like if a guy like Mason Tipton can't block like that I mean we've seen like what was that guy's name Kerwin whatever Johnson Steve Irwin Crocodile hun yeah that guy um but I mean the Saints have had a number of like blocking receiver Specialists that never catch balls yeah and they're on the roster over your Camp Heroes like Emanuel Butler Balin yeah and blocking is very apparently it's very important to the Shanahan offense it is important it's important to most offens and and Shah can't block bring back Trin Brandon colan Brandon somebody's got to do it Trin bring byon what's he what's what's tcoin Smith doing nowadays what is he doing I don't know probably waiting I don't think he's on a team Michael Thomas still doesn't have a team yeah Michael jeez bring him back yeah minimum is that a bad look for us if Michael Thomas like never plays football again I mean yes because it means that they held on to him like three years too too long right quick quick update tquan Smith is currently in Camp with the Detroit Lions oh wow oh good for him well Dan Campbell that makes sense good good for TR one um I'm hungry quick you know you know you know who has a job doesn't Marquez Calloway have a job yes he does back hez Marquez he's back with the Saints baby uh Marquez did you mean Marcus did you mean marus Marcus did you mean Marcus kway yeah Marcus Coulson so Andrew you've been talking a lot of crap in the text chain you've UDFA Son Update been talking a lot of crap on the pregame show how are you feeling about your udfa sun kicker you know there's a battle going on well you know what nothing nothing's in the bag you know it's it's uh it's still early last I heard groupy maybe has the slightest of leads but it's tight real tight yeah like you know never mind I'll keep your mom out of this um I I just I I don't know I don't know we were talking to Brett Martell the other day Charlie SMI not Smith sorry uh not technically an undrafted free agent acquired before the draft uh I'm I'm this might be in protest I'm not sure I'm not sure he's going to qualify let's disqualify that [ __ ] come on guys I'm I'm gonna wait to see how this plays out you know was was he drafted you Andre George but he was signed before is he a rookie yes but he wasn't but he wasn't an sign oh saint somar Darren Rizzy by sucking at kickoff returns this weekend who that's yeah boy I 20 intercep we have 10 cents I want to say I hold on hold on hold on he wasn't drafted but he wasn't undrafted because he was makes any sense all he wasn't eligible for the draft correct that makes no sense yeah yes it does he wasn't eligible for the draft so he couldn't go undrafted correct thank you Ralph thank you thank you from the [ __ ] going to get another we're 10 cents Away by the way thanks everybody we're going to get there uh the Special Teams I have this maybe it's maybe it's delusional optimism Special Teams and Darren Rizzi Discussion maybe it's toxic positivity but I just feel like Andrew the first month of the year Rizzy is going to have stuff cooked up in the lab the Saints ain't going to run in the pre season they're not even going to run it in the joint practices against San Francisco next week they are saving those bullets for when they need them when they're down 13 to 10 in the fourth quarter against Carolina they're going to break out the weird new kickoff stuff that rizzy's been working on on the tablet uh in the off season while he took probably like a three-day vacation like all those coaches do is my delusional optimism about Rizzy being great with the new kickoff rules is that unfounded nonsense or do do you do you agree with me I probably will take a wait and see approach but we we should have uh we should have given Rizzy the head coaching job Rizzy is awesome he's fun he's hilarious he did the uh the chef's kiss yeah to Tommy deito yeah to Tommy he wor Tommy DeVito's rival their rival high school he wore the shirt I mean Rizzy all the things that we used to love about Shawn Payton he was he done more of those things as a special teams coach with the mic never in his face than Dennis Allen has ever done he's Rizzy was the spiritual um successor the successor to pain like he he was the one that Carri he should have been the one he was the one that was carrying the flame here's the thing though I do wonder if Rizzy is one of those where he would have been like you know we remember how much we love Joe vit we were like Joe V is the greatest ever right up until he became the head coach and we were like so I don't know maybe Rizzy would have been one of those but yeah we'll never know there it is guys damn thank you by the way Ralph I'm going to pull rank here and tell you one straight year that this is Jason champ taking us over the edge youas this is a milestone though this is uh it's 52 straight weeks of Ralph drinking at least one shot of alcohol every Tuesday night 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son my son probably won't even dress he might get cut before the game who knows it talked about the kicking um the other thing that I'm interested in is how much Andrew do you think the Saints might game plan a little bit to like like normally you wouldn't but is there a sense of like on offense you mean yeah on offense like hey the the the offense is new we're doing installs maybe we just do a little bit of game plan and just to make the make it make it feel good give the give the team a little confidence give the fans a little confidence build a little optimism you know like it would be fun if we're like oh my God the Saints are up 2 4 to three on Arizona it have to we have to re-evaluate things this offense is looking great like just just a little bit of game planning just a little bit Yeah it wouldn't surprise me um I mean I I would be very guarded about preseason success uh I mean I'll I'll just never forget Steve sper when he went to Washington that's right and everyone was like you know yeah he was at Florida he had this revolutionary offense it's going to work in the NFL and I remember Washington in every preseason game was running up to score on teams blowing them out and everyone was like oh yeah this offense is like fail proof it's going to work in the NFL just like it did in college Washington's gonna blow everyone out and then the minute the regular season started they sucked they absolutely sucked um so yeah I mean but for all the reasons you stated I think it's worth it to game a little bit do some little razzled Dazzle run some you know run some wide receiver sweeps jet sweeps uh I don't know throw some weird plays in there yeah why not is there anything that could get you really say the opposite of what Andrew said I think everything's G to be Bland and boring is there anything so you think by virtue of that the fans will be pissed besides either of your I think control what the fans are gonna do I'm just telling you what I think we'll see on the field besides your either of your udfa sons being amazing Saturday what would really get you excited about this what what would what would up your excitement Smith missing a kick Smith going other than other than my undrafted free agent doing well what I what would really get me excited was you guys's undrafted free agents not doing well here here's what'll get me excited and I hate to give butri is due but if Jordan Mims if Jordan Mims looks good I'll feel really good because I worry about like CRA you got camra kendre Miller he might not even make the goddamn team and then Jamal Williams he's fun we love him but he's kind of old and wash like they need a running back to step up so like if Jordan Mims could give me a little something something in the third quarter break off a run or something I would feel really good and I can can talk myself into it because I can always talk myself into the Saints being good Hest I actually have a legit a legit answer to this and um it's honestly I I my head has always been saying this entire time that Spencer Rattler is nothing whatever don't get excited but like I will be honest with you if Spencer R actually did come out and like looked good and I'm not like saying like people are saying he looks good like I see this with my own eyes Cooks yeah I will admit uh that that would get me excited for the you're gonna do a quick 180 I I could I could and and because like I don't care who it is I just want the Saints I'm like every other fan I want the Saints to be successful I want them to do well I think that Derek Carr is a mid level quarterback that could be improved upon uh and I'm just so so again so like I just as much as I hate to admit that and as much as like if you're asking me to place a wager on what I think is gonna happen I do not think that's gonna happen but you know the question was is what do you really want to see like that would that like if you're if we're if we're looking deep down deep into my soul and and I'm exposing myself and if I'm if I'm really yeah I'm just sharing my innermost my innermost feelings honestly that's that's what it is I'm gonna tell I'm gonna make a prediction here Spencer Rattler's game is built for the preseason in the fourth quarter he's mobile he's got a cannon and he does reckless stuff he has the potential in the fourth quarter to be like seven for 10 for a buck 50 and two touchdowns like I'm just saying I'm just he's going to he's going to tear it up in one of these preseason games I'm telling you I'm here for I mean I haven't really I haven't I haven't really given it any Credence or any legitimacy but now since since we're on the subject like like what seriously like what if we what if we have a situation uh where we're week one and you know we've seen at least something from Rattler and we're like we got something here like we got it oh oh got it like Derek and and like week one week two Derek Carr struggles you yeah struggle B what number one [ __ ] all all Spencer Rattler has to do is be pretty good in the preseason saints come out the gate 0 and2 they'll be calling for Spencer R they're already calling for him he hasn't even thrown a pass yet this is happening and they apparently they've been darts even though from what I've seen they're not darts they're just regular f hey I mean I look at this as I I Ralph's statement where he said you know car is a or did you say it Dave that he's a decent quarterback that can be approved upon I I mean I think that says it to a te so the minute we find someone better than Carr that is the future like to me Carr is a stop Gap at best right you know scar Carr is not going to be the Saints quarterback in five years I mean anything's possible but he to me for Carr to be the quarterback of the Saints five years from now he would have to transform his out the Outlook he might have to win a Super Bowl yeah so so I I I don't really see so I'm kind of like viewing him as a bridge to the next guy whether that's Rattler or someone else well so I would love nothing more than to see him come in and and you know I I don't really think Hanner is that guy I think ha could could be with the Saints in five years as a backup that's a possibility you he could kind of carve out like a Chase Daniel thing but I don't really see Hanner as a guy that's gonna be like oh yeah he's an unquestioned starter Rattler's interesting like he has a skill set I the thing about Rattler is I do think coming out of college he wasn't a great college quarterback the processing was slow but unquestionably he has the arm unquestionably he has like the skill set the talent so again I I still don't even know that I don't I don't if the coaching staff or if this offense or whatever it it finds a way to like get the most out of this guy like I actually think he does have starter ceiling yeah and so I would love nothing more he's he Dave he was high school player of the year five star I mean I think I think the The best scenario here is that car Carr has a great season and plays really well but that Rattler is clearly the guy and then a year later you're like in an Alex Smith mome situation I mean maybe that's like unfair to compare Rattler to Mahomes but like you have a young backup that's clearly very good you're ready to give him the keys to the franchise but and so like you got to do something with this veteran guy who actually had a pretty good season Alex Smith in this example but that that's the ideal scenario yeah well like I I think the more important question though is is like if if we're in that situation and if Spencer Rattler actually shows something uh and and if Derek Carr is showing us that maybe he's not that great Rattler is a homeless momes well I guess yeah I know uh I guess the question is is like the more important question is does Dennis Allen is he gonna make that decision like does he have the ball he he does he have theall to make that decision he really D car he's the one that brought Derek Carr here he's he's tied to Derek Carr he's they're both uh you know former Raiders uh any any coach that's worth his salt and da might not be um exactly that's what I'm saying like should make that move and here's why Dave like the minute you can get out of that car contract the the freaking second you can get out of that you have to ask yourself do we reup or is it time to eject and if there is someone on your roster with a minimum rookie deal I know that's ready to step in and give you 85% of what your of car was giving you or better then it's time to make that move the funniest but again but but again I'm asking the question C is can Will would Dennis Allen make that decision I think I think the only way I I think rler would have to be pretty effing I think the only way Dennis Allen would make that decision this year is it would have to be like a like a Dak Prescott situation where like Carr gets injured and Rattler comes in and like b car is ready to come back but they're like the Saints are eight and four and Rattler is gonna be Rookie of the Year Derek I want to respond to one thing that oppenheimer's saying in the chat he's saying this is delusional and all caps I don't think this by the way I I will just say this Oppenheimer and I I I'm guessing a lot of people listening to this are like come on give me a break like a fifth round rookie like he gonna do was what was Rattler fifth round is that right yeah that's right yeah so I I've been cover whatever you want to call it doing a podcast covering the team whatever for for a long time now and over a decade and at no point have they said this about any backup besides tames Hill ta is the only buy into this type I'll say I don't it's not that I'm saying I'm buying into it because the ones the other ones the Garrett Grayson's the the I I won't say Haner yet but like the Grayson's the canfields whatever right they they have all been like worse than dog [ __ ] so like like the the bar is so low like they would come in in training camp they would come in preseason and they would lay eggs and like we haven't seen a Young quarterback come in and light [ __ ] on fire behind Breeze behind like we haven't seen it in years here's my I haven't heard someone talk about rat the way about the way they've been talking about Rattler recently it has you know my Spidey senses of percolated a little bit a little tingling like I have raised awareness about this guy and I'm not saying he's going to be great I'm not like putting all my eggs in the basket but I am intrigued about Rattler because of what's being said about him behind the scenes in a way that I have never heard this kind of stuff about any of the other guys here's here's here's my number one reason for optimism with Rattler if you want to be delusionally toxic positivity Dave Randy Mueller who has a incredible record of picking quarterbacks when you compare him to other NFL people he had Spencer Rattler as his number two quarterback in the draft behind behind Caleb Williams number two why why because he's just like he's got the tools he's got the mobility I think his issues can be fixed I think he was in bad situations college and Randy Mueller was like he can be special maybe and Randy Mueller by the way was was a consultant for the Saints this draft and oh by the way Randy Mueller is the guy who traded a second round pick for the second best quarterback in Saints history Aaron Brooks and everybody was like what the hell is this why did the Saints just trade a second round pick for Aaron Brooks after they signed Jeff Blake so if you want to be delusionally optimistic about it you can say I bet on Randy Mueller knowing what he's looking at so I'm just saying interesting all right this is this has been this has been too much Rattler talk so there's never Dave are you on the you are not on the internet enough like me for 10 hours a day I'm not on I'm not on there can never be enough Spencer Rattler talk there could literally this is too much it's not enough J Jason just dropped the John Beck reference Ralph to yeah nobody bats a thousand [Laughter] Jason Thomas I feel like people are misunderstanding me here I'm not saying like Rattler is going to be anything uh my only thing is is that I I am surprised by what I've heard it's it's different from it's fun it's it gives us fun it's fun again like the other guys have been so bad that maybe it's just like you know he'll start like 10 games in his career and win a couple of them that would be better than the other guys right so yeah Thomas do we have trivia tonight uh nope no trivia we don't so give us a quick quick give us a quick donation update we didn't even mention Ian book of all those drafted guys Jesus try to we already forgot he existed throwing [Music] rainbow does not sound like that on my phone all right Play Take it terrible it does not sound like that on my phone me do a quick donation update yeah do it guys we are less than 50 bucks away from Ral drinking on you know come on on rich people make it people I say this people stop giving your money to Underhill give it to us instead speaking rich people what's going on with birthday Suite uh where are we with a suite for Andrew's birthday in the super doome how are we looking on that Andrew uh not good my gosh Come On Let's go people come on I want to say this um we had a I had a patron in the Discord sent me uh some music from another saint that had sung songs and it's Brad Edelman and let me tell you something we might have Thomas play them next weekit are you about to play this uh to Thomas I think I sent it but I think we were gonna do it next week Andrew so I'll be right back there the music is so bad from Brad Edelman like it's not even bad funny bad no so bad it's bad like it's just it's it's almost it's almost unlistenable it's kind of like country I'll be the judge of that we need it's from Chris it's from Chris we might give it next week uh it's it's it's it's it's something something uh so Thomas play take it to the top so we can give the people finger guns something something all [Music] right but I always applaud athletes trying to sing trying to rap trying to dance because we can make fun of them uh so I'm all for it uh thanks Chris for sending us those we'll play them next week uh so Thomas what's first up uh from the questions from the patrons keep them coming we use them if we don't use them on the live show we'll use them on the mailbag all the questions you send us we try to get to them Thomas what's first up uh before first question thanks to who that go for 15 Buckaroo donation becoming the new MVP I guess he really wants to sit next to you during one of the games that's right yeah I I don't have I don't have Club preseason seats like the boo jue but if you want to go to see the Titans and sit in SE 641 with the pores like me uh hit me in the Discord I'll give you the tickets to the to the Titans game yeah these are the same tickets that I were giving away in a contest because apparently they're so valuable but that's a real game Dave I mean you know I know so what's first up Thomas Come On Dave Fan Questions uh all right first question from maldi marinho he asks as Ralph claps he asks with the grip strength of of a baby raccoon would Ralph be eligible for the par Olympics yes and what event can we enroll him to compete I mean I don't I don't think it would necessarily be your grip strength I think it would be the your other [ __ ] like your legs and your yeah I see I don't I don't know like see would you qualify for the Special Olympics that's the first like like straight up would you I don't thing is though I don't know because like really I'm like but like but you're so special but I'm not I don't think I'm crippled enough like I like I got a bum leg I got a bum arm but like and I don't think I'd be good like if they let me run I don't think I could run fast enough against the people like the dude F be no that's not going to be your thing but I but I I think I just I don't know I don't think think we got to set a baseline here and we got to decide we got to determine whether you're eligible I think I'm eligible can you run a mile in 10 minutes yeah I think I could now I'm 40 I don't know I don't know I couldn't even do that I couldn't I couldn't even do that when I was like 14 forget it I was like I was like just over 10 minutes I endurance was uh never my thing that's why I I think I'd qualify for the 40 40 seconds 40 seconds I think I'd I think I'd qualify for the par Olympics but I don't think I'd be good enough I think I I could I could there's all kinds of sports wait there's all kinds of sports you could do um do they have Bowlers bowling with the bumpers no okay what about like shot put like you only need one arm for that oh that's I'm not shooting you guys really can't run a 10-minute mile shooting with one arm I probably could I I could probably do it now I but I didn't when I was younger you think you can run a 10-minute mile I don't know there's been so much we need to test this I don't think see I don't think I don't know there's been there's been so much damage so much damage has been done and is that a good time or not I don't think you lot of candy will carry you to the finish line I'm not talking about candy Andrew there's just been so much damage yeah I don't think to the lungs to the liver I think I'd be eligible but I don't think I'd be good enough promise you can run a mile in 10 minutes right I don't know I mean we run one kilom but I we never met Thomas we still don't know whether Thomas is AI or whether he's real we still have no idea I cannot even walk man let alone run oh my God yeah yeah Thomas is like uh do you ever see a brain inside show on see my 800 lb life like that's who Thomas is that's our producer my 800 lb Polish sausage I'm a brain inside come on Kevin could do it I bet run actually I'm gonna message him right now Kevin can do it a n the end Andrew if you if you try to make yourself feel better we'll all just say that you're the best yeah you're you're the best you're the best you care about your in a mile about your body you've got all your hair yeah yeah it's great you're the best better than sess what's next Thomas better than Andre Agy all right next question I'm I'm gonna ask for a love update too good luck with that maybe you shouldn't after after the last we're vibing here maybe maybe don't harsh my vibe man yeah come on guys we've been in weeks I'm ready to crash it all down yeah exactly Kevin how's your love life yeah Jesus all right next question from Saints rabbit too bad he is not here he asks uh Saints rabbit recent divos if I remember correctly yeah wow I forgot about that w w d a seem speaking of love love update the a seems to have a much better Vibe heading into the 2024 season if the Saints make the playoffs all better should Mickey keep him on the hot seat somehow to keep that magic rolling no no I'm just gonna I me and Kevin discussed it on a podcast first of all I'm not scenario happens in real life by the way if da I'm just going to tell da haters G your loins if Da goes 10 and S if Da goes if the Saints Go 10 and seven da is getting extended like book it like book it that that Adam shefer tweet next July before Camp opens is gonna hit you like a shotgun of the chest like the Saints Go 10 and seven da is getting extended period end of discussion I don't I don't necessarily I don't think I disagree with that yeah I really don't so Thomas yeah you take that [ __ ] to the bank um back to Thomas's earlier comment but I don't know if the Saints are making the playoffs though Saints rabbit he said was recently divorced and am I not correct that Saints rabbit brought his previous wife his ex-wife to a live show no I remember him being there by himself no he was there by himself he nobody she knew about the podcast of course there's only there's only got divorced why do you think he got's only patrons listen you don't tell your significant other about this podcast you why do you think only never had a there's only there's only one person involved in this podcast that destroys things and that's Kevin he destroyed the Saints media free lunch all by himself uh listen to the if you're a patron you got early access to the Brett Martell interview Brett Martell told an amazing Kevin story it's just it's incredible oh yeah yeah Andrew you got got to go listen just just listen to the end of the marzel interview if you don't want to it's amazing how long is how long is the interview it's like 40 minutes 40 minutes what's next Thomas listen to the last 10 minutes next question final question basically R ruined ruined w Wait I'll wait I'll hang up and let's not end it yet how about a second shot AR 28.3 donation we have close 67 away long two long no the two long sorry yes six whatever the the too long didn't read of uh of the Brett Martell interview is that uh uh Kevin basically ruined uh lunch privileges for the Saints media forever forever forever yeah for real they had a good thing going in 2007 and then Kevin happened and that was it R it done yeah no seriously done yeah thanks kin thanks a lot buddy yeah so come on we got we got we got $567 away come on make this make this wipes his ass with $5 make this happen and it gives me Mr jue wipes his ass with $10 we we that's a that was the that was the last question Thomas do we have any questions in the chat you don't wipe your ass out all day right accurate accurate AF accurate AF uh how do you think I saved money that was too good how you get rich Jason champagne mentioned this uh he says I have good vibes from Spencer Rattler also for what it's worth Rand mu he had faga rated number four on his board overall boy you boy what a what a way to finish I mean there's still one question left but you know you can drink before that I'll drink by the way Jason champagne are you related to Jared champagne I know a Jared champagne I'm checking to see he went to Jared you ever could only be Cher you ever like this this H this smells like shut up and drink it this smells like yeah when you were a kid you ever have those those pencils that smelled like things like banana and all that this smells like a pencil that's supposed to smell like strawberry oh yeah know I hear you like that when you were like when you went to the the book Time to Drink Again! fair and you yeah and you're like I bought the strawberry Elastica yeah book fair all right here we go here we he's he's G he's gone it's blue wow possible vomit possible vomit oh he's in pain suffering finish that b he he he's composed himself I hate Jin so much oh this might be the thing maybe we need to get away fromin so bad exactly less clever flavors more Jin honestly has he ever had rum maybe he does I chin is the worst there you go so it's dog whistle start sending more gin it's like that Steve Spagnola defense it just starts bad and gets worse oh tastes tastes like 200 S I need help it does that's a nine man n Andrew's dad that's a nine more gin more Gin Gin variants Vari yeah somebody keeps saying they're gonna send me the thing it's Elvis's snack and it's like it's like peanut butter peanut butter jelly yeah that's you would love that what don't he would that that Dr almost made Ralph Ralph that the thought of jalapeno Jin honestly honestly for next week we were talking about doing the Mountain Dew the wheel of death or whatever yeah whatever whatever alcohol is supposed to be in there we replacing it with JY no there JY is on the wheel oh they had some they had somebody on if you land something that's not Jin we're making it they they had somebody on Twitter Spencer Hall who does a great college football podcast he had people they were tweeting him pictures of vodka and somebody had VOD some a Russian vodka from 2012 that looked like it was in a gas can and they were like people were like I couldn't drink that I was like send it to me I'll drink it but like but like like Jinn from like 2012 it I would be afraid of it I would because because that that this gen like it oh it just it's it's not good uh Thomas what's the last Back to Questions question all right final question of the show belongs to Dono he asks one wish for 2024 not knowing the impact but hoping for the best outcome car top 10 QB AK 1K what was what was that the hell was that that's my wife celebrating the Astros Jesus they won finally I was GNA say that's not a cat or your son no it's you didn't shoot the bed my wife no he didn't they're up best outcome car top 10 QB AKA 1K yards rushing or all line gives up less than 30 sacks temp this a great question it's a it's a tough one I think I have to go car I all all of them sound great but we know we know this team has been very good without camra rushing for a thousand yards that's not necessary I'm gonna say he's top 10 is he top one top 10 in what though is it yards touchdowns qbr like I'm just gonna say I'm assuming he means like top 10 qbr I don't know my thing though was like one and three go together like if the off if the o line gives up less than 30 sacks then Carr could potentially be a top 10 QB uh and like what what's the point of going with the last one with oine gives up 30 sack if Carr isn't going to be a top 10 QV let me just take Carr being a top 10 QV yeah uh and obviously I think then that by default that that means the offensive line obviously has done okay yeah now it the only problem here is this could be a trick question where car throws one pass this is our listener but he got hit on the throw and he's out for the year oh he's got to qualify he's got to be qualif we need like a qualifier he's a he's a legit minimum number of passes legit legit top 10 here's the thing if Carr is a top 10 quarterback kubak 100%'s getting a head coaching job some somewhere next year like like book take that I mean honestly dude like the the best case scenario for this season is that kubak gets hired away as a head coach that he's so freaking good in one year with the saints that he gets a job somewhere else and yes that would suck but it means we had a great season yeah I mean you just but the thing is you just kind of have to like trust that like okay they know they need to run the Shanahan system kubak system like maybe the quarterback coach can take it over maybe like you just have to trust da to make like to make the higher and like it's tough because Shawn pyton made a couple of bad defensive coordinator hires but I mean that's just kind of the world that's kind of the world you live in um and even if you had an offensive coach Shawn pton was unique in a sense of he never had like the like a brain drain from his staff because p Michael never went anywhere you know like nobody was hiring the Shaun of Payton assistants away on offense which is weird whereas like McVey Shanahan their entire staffs get purged or or not purged stolen away so yeah that's true um uh Ali Mourinho wants to know where are the old DCS spagnola's in Kansas City being amazing um Joe vit is retired I think or is like Gary Gibbs remember him G oh that's a good question see this is where we need Kevin because Kevin automatically would just go to the wiki and um and hit it up Gary Gibbs Gary Gibbs I know he bounced around college football for a while yeah um he's currently uh a coach at Oklahoma oh wow is he is he the head coach oh sorry Oklahoma State Oklahoma State he's a defensive analyst oh he's not even like he's like an analyst yeah I mean he's as low level as it gets poor Gary Gibbs did you know did you know that Gary Gibbs the year that spags was the Saints defensive coordinator in 2012 Gary Gibbs was the Chief's defensive coordinator oh wow fun fact G Gibbs is all right it's defensive like the talent was bad I don't know um what if here's your boy Allan what if ha Rob Ryan where's Rob Ryan right now he's with the Raiders he he's back with the Raiders I think he's back with the Raiders is like is that true as like assistant linebacker coach senior defensive assistant wow yeah you nailed it I know I know I I know honestly like you guys are like just [ __ ] this is this is like [ __ ] around talk here but like what I'm what I'm like I'm I'm just sitting here listening and uh you're telling me that over the last few years the Saints and the Raiders we've just like [ __ ] switched we've just kind of been trading back and forth between and I'm I'm not gonna lie it kind of feels that way yeah okay and I'm not gonna lie the Raiders that's not the franchise that I want to be doing that with okay like I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say like like I'm just I've been sitting here in this closet and I I the people at home they've been listening or in their car I have I have been keeping my mouth quiet for quite a while and the two of you guys which is shocking I know I know and I've been listening to the two of you guys talk and all I'm hearing here is basically uh we the Saints and the Raiders are just interchanging players which basically means we're just interchanging ourselves into shitty season it's the worst episode of wife swap ever yeah what the f is going on what what what am I what am I listening to what the hell am I listening to I got one more for youon Ron Zook is the defensive coordinator for the Seattle Sea Dragons Greg Williams is the defensive coordinator for the DC Defenders Ron Ron Ron dude Ron zuk was the defensive no I think that's are we in questions are we doing questions oh and John guden was at Chief's Camp so there you go Jesus he's gonna put the they gonna get the John Gruden stink on the Chiefs um so but uh anybody thanks everybody I feel like Clint kubak is has to be our savior here like he's he's the only young Paul Young he never coached with the Raiders right it's I don't think correct he's never coached with the Raiders he looked at got ties to the ners who are good um Minnesota I feel like all of our eggs are in the kubak basket here we we this really needs to hit like we're putting it all on kubak MVP Results it rhes with black kubak black putting it on kubak Thomas uh wrap up the show tell us who donated uh and who's the MVP all right amazing show guys Ralph almost puked we hit the one year donation go streak to the bathroom thanks to Ali marinho let me play the song by first uh to Jason champag to arage to Andrew to Mr J to your boy Allen and the MVP who [Music] is the one and only hudat goer congratulations thank you HUD goer remember H that golfer DM Thomas on Discord so you can tell us what you want to be on the Whiteboard next week so I finally heard from Kevin it took a minute um he said a 10-minute mile how much time do I have to get ready probably not oh my God holy [ __ ] I think I need to wait for Dave to be back for this part oh wow on he might have fall how much is a mile 5,280 ft 1.6 do minutes Thomas I think I think easy yeah don't use the com the Kami metric system anymore Thomas in in America we don't use the metric system all right where's Dave is he in the bathroom I don't know where did they fall in the toilet all right I guess I'll share this with the patrons now if he shows up in time then I can tell him again but the love update is that he's getting dinner on Thursday Quick Kevin Love Update drum roll please with the nurse oh see Andy used to date her so it's already been a failed experiment he's going back to the well so it's not a date it's a hookup come on so yeah he says we both know what this is and then he writes and I've got a date on Friday with someone I've been talking to on an app so feels we've got some action going on here Thursday Saints bringing this feels like the Saints bringing back Robert meechum they're going to fck each other next it it feels like Callaway yeah it feels like AA kissing babies and hugging fat girls I love this sound you're the best Thomas uh 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