FANTASY FOOTBALL BOLD PREDICTIONS & BRAVE PICKS W/ DALTON DEL DON | Yahoo Fantasy | NFL Injuries

welcome back to the NPR fantasy football podcast  I'm your host. physicaly medical anal fantasy   points.com I've been really bad at this whole  promotion thing so before we get to the guest   I need to say you have three options listeners  option number one you can go to Underdog use   promo code injury prone you're going to get up to  $1,000 matched over an underdog those best ball   streets are closing very soon so make sure you get  over there that's option number one option number   two you can go to my Twitter my ex whatever you  want to call it fbn iny duck tap on the pin tweet   buy that injury-prone draft guide and lastly  we're still looking for participants for the   injury-prone league superflex league so email me  injury prone pod gmail.com if you want in on that   League it's superflex League probably make it a  free League just for fun because we're degenerates   um or throw a couple dollars down we'll decide  once it's filled lastly but most importantly   we have triple D Dalton Dell Dawn here he is of  course with Yahoo sports um my arch nemesis one   of my arch nemesis nemeses in our superflex  D at the injury prone Invitational going on   the fourth year now I believe um he is hold on I  lost your Twitter Dalton he is oh just Dalton Del   Dawn perfect I'm sure that was available when you  looked at it Dalton Del Dawn on Twitter Dalton how   are you doing my friend doing well Edwin thanks  for having me also thanks for running this league   I enjoy it uh with all the industry folks it's  been a fun draft uh I'm in a home League that's   the same exact setup with the superflex with some  high school buddies uh whatever it's been too many   years 25 years now in counting um and it's it's  the same exact setup and it's a slow draft and   we're like in the same round so you'll forgive me  if I get confused who I'm drafting here because   it's uh literally almost that's okay I have it  pulled up here all right let let's talk this   it's a fun you say times I was just goingon  to say that um I have implemented different   strategies I went Bree Hall early there and I  went uh Richardson quarterback and ours I know   we're going to talk about that but man uh trying  to come up with a strategy in superflex is super   interesting and it's so dependent on your league  mates like knowing when they're going to draft   quarterbacks and whatnot but uh that's exciting  to talk strategy about that yeah no definitely   the the strategy is is tough um so really when  it comes to I talked to with uh Rich rebar about   this earlier this week too uh just looking back  at the draft from last year it's so funny to   see how we drafted what it looked like and how it  ended right for example my first three picks were   um well two of my first three I know were were  Garrett Wilson and Tony perul so obviously that   did not work out very well for me at all that was  the worst year the worst season I I I've had right   um but of course things always work themselves out  there's always waiver wire Darlings superflex like   you said keeps it interesting last season we had  the most quarterbacks go down for longer than six   games uh since I started you know tracking this  stuff uh so you know the the superflex aspect   really makes it interesting now you drafted in  our league and we'll jump right into it out of the   three spot and and you said you know you said you  took right off the bat Anthony Richardson I really   like that we're going to get to the flaming hot  takes but I want to talk sort of big picture   strategy for superflex because man I've been like  we said I've been doing this for four years now   with you guys and it it's just a murderous row  it's you it's Matt Harmon it's grah Barfield it's   Rich rebar it's JJ zachar I mean there's no value  to be had in these drafts at times when something   feels like a reach to me I just I'm just doing  it because I know that I need to either gain some   Advantage gain some ground gain some leverage and  you know classified as a reach whatever the case   may be and I still don't I I never walk away from  these drafts looking at my team and being totally   in love with it and it's just because the these  drafters are just so sharp so out of the three   slot you went Anthony Richardson what was your  goal or your intention going into this draft   so on one hand in a superflex I want to come away  with the one of the top five or six running backs   who run obviously Richardson I love Murray more  than than most this year um but on the other hand   it's so deep you you definitely can wait this year  quarterback has never ever been deeper I mean Gino   Smith is one-ear remov from leading the NFC and  passing touchdowns and Lord rebs got him in round   eight and then followed him up with Bryce young in  round nine I think that's that's the way to go is   get Lamar Jackson running quarterback and then if  you can wait eight and nine and get even a third   one like that in my home League Gino went in round  six it's like I said very different because you   just have to know when your other league league  mates are going to draft those guys like to be   [ __ ] and draft three and four quarterbacks and  you know just disord them so I I I love Richardson   we'll talk about that I could have easily gone  Bree Hall there in in ra third overall I love him   um but I think the mistake I made here is then  coming back with pie in round three I love pie   but with no Trent Williams and and Brandon auk I'm  already regretting that pick I think the drop off   with real upside QBs the tier is your guy Caleb  Williams I I like getting Josh Allen and Caleb   and then after Caleb on the board after I took pry  shortly there after Tua went Lawrence and cousins   I don't see a big difference between Gino Smith  Aaron Rogers five rounds later so I think those   are the guys that really came away from draft  looking like the winners the guys that got the   running quarterback early and then just waited  and then got another guy who to me is the same   like goo Smith the same tier as Kurt Cousins for  me yeah and those guys that's pretty flat right   and like the other thing is when do you start you  know shifting away from those wide receivers uh   when because it is a three wide receiver league  right so you went Marvin Harrison Jr here and   then you got lucky enough to where I should have  done this right so again this is me basically   this this whole podcast just me let allowing me  to vent about this draft here Dalton so I went   Devonte Smith I don't hate it but then two picks  later you went Rashi rice right he's your second   wide receiver here I really like that for you  were are you expecting him to be there at that   point I'm super thin at wide receiver admittedly  but you're going to be weak somewhere in a super   flex but full PPR I don't I don't love it but I  do love getting rice where I did I bumped him up   to my wide receiver 20 it's sorry I moved him up  uh to my wide receiver 18 right now it just looks   like he's not going to be suspended he was so good  over the second half last last year Hollywood's   already injured Kelsey's starring in TV shows and  his you know his age um I do like worthy I would   grab him as well but yeah rice there really helped  me for someone who waited on receiver because it   it's thin and I didn't get these running backs  kept falling it looked like a boomer in this   draft compared to the other guys but I just love  the the price of of Henry and Kenneth Walker and   James Cook but um old man Hopkins we'll talk  about can he can he stay healthy I mean I think   he can out Target Ridley this year so I thought  in in PPR he was a a boring safer pick later and   I definitely considered who you got right after  Watson and Reed they went immediately after so um   definitely that was a debate for me usually I'm  after the younger guys with upside but in this   case I kind of like safety although it's weird to  say the guy Hopkins is age but in PPR I think the   targets would be there yeah you're not known for  to be the safety guy man what's what's going on   here you know you're known to be the shoot for the  you know swing for the fences upside guy and here   you are drafting you know guys like Derk Henry  drafting guys like um like you mentioned obviously   DeAndre Hopkins so I think the Hopkins thing in  particular I think he's going to be fine I don't   know what we we're going like you know what we're  going to get at a 32y old wide receiver will L   us under Center I think there is some a little  bit of potential there especially where you're   getting him in drafts and he does tend to have  this reputation of just not wanting to practice   to be 100% there's a little bit of that I can't  prove it I'm I'm not reporting but it just seems   like this is one of those situations where um you  know it was an injury but who knows how much how   severe it actually was and how long a 32-year  old dude wanted to be in Camp which I don't I   don't necessarily blame him so um I think that H  Hopkins could be fine now you waited you know a   while to get David and joku and you actually got  I think you got a pretty good decent deal on him   in the eighth round is has this been you know do  you count David and joku as one of your top tier   guys like are you looking at these these tight  ends in general as top a top six tier a top eight   tier how are you separating and delineating yeah  okay we'll talk tight ends I I have Trey McBride   as my tight end one so I've been ending up with a  lot of him because obviously leaport and Kelce go   ahead of him in most drafts George KD has been a  big Target of mine even full PPR leagues cancade   goes like multiple rounds ahead of KD and I get  the upside but man especially with increasingly   uh likely chance of maybe no iuk love KD and then  en joku is my next Target um I I think there's   about 10 11 if you want to count Bowers and then  maybe 12 GD but there's a gigantic drop off there   just massive Tamm Hills my tight end three but  obviously you can wait there HBY Parkinson's   my ugly guy like late giving him away here but um  you can get him at the end of drafts and he's just   the starting tight end on the Rams and I mean  Higg put up numbers there and and uh Parkinson   actually okay in Seattle and they paid him he's  going to be the starter there but en joku has   actually been my main target in in most of these  uh most of my leagues don't love the fact in ours   that Ferguson um went multiple rounds later same  with Bowers but you look at the numbers he put up   last year um even it wasn't just flacko I know  there's splits with Watson and Watson's the guy   there but man this is a really good pedigree top  talent and just really impressed if you look at   the tape and he put up big numbers with PJ Walker  and DTR throwing to him so I think he can still   I'm I'm kind of disregarding those splits with  with Watson and even if Watson goes down then   DTR whatever feeds him on those underneath routes  he he'll suffer far less than Amari Cooper will if   and when Watson you know misses more games this  year so love and joku he's actually my number   one target at the tight end position this year  I have him ahead of and no one would think that   and no one will treat him that way after watching  this last preseason game when Ingram caught the   touchdowns well guess what he Ingram had Mass  one talk splits look at Ingram splits with uh   Christian Kirk on and off the field last year and  Kirk didn't play in that preseason game so I I   like inu's upside actually more than Ingram that's  interesting right like I mean obviously David and   joku Hyper athletic still super young I'm pretty  sure he's still what 25 24 something like that   um he he's a younger guy right he came into the  league when he was super super young um I remember   him being shoot dude he was in the league 19 2019  or something like that and so those late those   late you know career I guess mid-career breakouts  by by tight ends are definitely something that um   you can look especially if you're looking to punt  I'm a coward Dalton I just went Dalton concade uh   and I I just stacked him with Josh Allen so I I  I kind of regreted the pick immediately after I   mean it was okay right like I'm okay I just  tight end is still never fun for me so what   what are you doing in terms of uh Titan strategy  are you still targeting David joku in non- super   Flex leagues um yes that has absolutely been my  guy and if you're if even if I'm in the front um   and he goes say mid nth in in a lot of NFC leagues  I'll jump them early eth because I just I there's   a huge drop off if you miss out in the Bowers uh  top top 11-ish and um It's Tricky you come away   weekly you want to build your your wide receivers  early I want one of these athletic quarterbacks   you want one of these top tier tight ends I mean  it is tricky but that's what I've been settling is   I've been kind of passing on uh going with running  quarterback over McBride and going after in joku   in round eight- n and sometimes some leagues he's  falling further I mean he didn't light it up in   the preseason and and and it doesn't feel like  he's a guy most fantasy managers are after right   I I just think that um yeah I I know we say this  every year but it seems like tight end is a little   deeper this year maybe it's just a little top  heavier than usual but I did I definitely wanted   to get your thoughts on superflex strategy tight  end strategy so I'm glad we got stuck a little   bit of that but now this is what everybody  wants you for dton this is what everybody   you're known for your um for your slugging  percentage what do you want to call it right   you're you're known for hitting these uh picks  out of the park and and I really am you know you   sort of you and Scott Barrett give same ethos of  like you know we want Power law players you know   we don't want these just these average ADP beaters  so you have been on board with some pretty Heavy   Hitters this year again as expected League winners  and you know one of the things that I think about   when I'm drafting right is like is this guy going  to bury me if I don't take some of him if I don't   draft some Nico Collins right if I don't draft  some Bree Hall if I don't draft some of those   guys that are those power law players like am  I just going to be buried so to me I think that   definition is variable amongst a lot of different  people but you're one of the best at actually   choosing those guys committing to it and ranking  them that way going for it and obviously you went   Anthony Richardson here in the super Flex draft  you know the third overall pick which I have no   problem doing I thought I toyed with the idea um  but again I am a coward I toyed with the idea of   taking him one overall just to shake the league up  but didn't do it let I let him fall to you so who   are your let's go you know we can do three or four  or five how many guys that you think that if if   fantasy drafters if listeners don't take at least  some of these guys in some of their drafts they   will probably not win their league who are these  guys all right I've strongly considered Breece   Hall there even in a superflex I've taken him  number one overall in some high stakes leagues um   not superflex but he's the number one player on my  board um entering the year um CD lamb was pretty   close in PPR but I moved him ahead of my guy CMC  Anthony Richardson uh so the first three guys I'm   going to talk about with you Edwin are are um are  or injury-prone guys so it's feel fittingly I I'm   in on these guys that are definitely inter with  heightened risk um although it's got to be noted   should be noted that every player in the NFL  enters with significant injury risk what is the   project every running back's what is the average  amount of games played like 13.6 or something like   that so I do want people to kind of realize  that when when a addressing this um Anthony   Richardson yeah he was I'm happy to take him  number three overall here would have considered   him number one overall Ironically in superflex  he's he's loses a little value in the sense that   there's there's less replacement value so if he  goes down I'm not be able to replace him with a   quarterback on the wire where I am easily in any  other one quarterback League that's why I'm like   go draft him in the sixth round for sure because  his fantasy upside is equivalent if not higher   than Josh Allen losing Diggs and uh Herz with all  kinds of question marks there too um and I think   it's a bit of a paradox with Anthony Richardson  will be a better passer in the future two to three   years from now but he will not run like he will  this year so we're just getting the fantasy Apex   this year behind a top five offensive line a top  three play caller um what if ad Mitchell's really   good too to go along with Pitman and Josh Downs  I mean har Harmon loves Downs I mean these could   be three legit wide receivers I mean Jonathan  Taylor maybe he takes some touchdowns but it's   good that he's really good I think the offense is  going to be good they were top five in plays per   game last year with Richardson under CER the most  fantasy points per drop back since Lamar Jackson's   historic season so I'm all in on Richardson I get  it he's super raw you can't extrapolate the small   sample last year and the injuries what can I say  I mean it was concussion and the shoulder and he   needs to protect himself better but I love the  fact he's not going to change his playing style   he was on Pace for 26 rushing touchdowns last year  he matched CJ strads top five F weekly fantasy   finishes last year and he played 11 quarters yeah  I mean the dude is is going to run the ball I mean   they're going to give him the ball uh you know the  RPO obviously they're going to spam the rpos which   is going to expand running lanes for Jonathan  Taylor which will then obviously reciprocate back   to Anthony Richardson I I think that that offense  is going to be fantasy friendly um you mentioned   at the top right the difference between what uh or  I guess how every position or every player comes   into the NFL right they're they're all at risk to  some degree and this is actually an the injured   prone draft guide this is since 2013 and this  is by ADP right so this is by ADP since 2013 top   running backs vers top 12 running backs versus top  12 wide receivers by ADP running backs on average   they miss three games per season wide receivers on  average they miss 2.2 games per season right the   median for both running backs and wide receivers  have missed games is one the only difference or   the biggest difference would be running backs tend  to miss seven plus more games seven plus games   more often than wide receivers but the margins  are so so thin and and I remember last year this   was really accentuated and like every every player  not just running backs are at risk for injury wide   receivers Miss Miss time just almost just as often  as running backs do right Justin Jefferson we saw   that last year Jamar Chase was banged up Debo  samels B banged up right these wide receivers   Miss time too so you're not necessarily any safer  going the wide receiver route than you are going   the running back route um and in terms of Anthony  Richardson specifically yes the data shows there's   no real correlation between running quarterbacks  uh and uh injuries but there actually tends to be   a bit of a negative negative correlation which  makes sense right because you are um you you're   able to evade pressure able to evade contact  but that's the big thing right Lamar Jackson's   a master of getting down right Lamar Jackson's  a master of sliding before somebody gets to him   and Anthony Richardson does need a little bit of  that in his game I think for me to feel better   about it but in terms of him avoiding big hits  I think that he's going to be able to do that   um and I I'm not necessarily more concerned uh  from an injury perspective for him this season   who's your next guy here D love to hear that  about Richardson he's really good at avoiding   sacks pressure to sack ratio too so hopefully  that helps as well okay we'll go running back   injury-prone guy Devon Anan just pushing the chips  all in here average the fourth most fantasy points   last season despite playing Five snaps or fewer  in two games he never eclipsed 18 carries or 38   snaps healthy full season pace of 1500 yards and  17 touchdowns despite sharing the back field with   the running back who led the NFL in touchdowns uh  jir Gibbs averaged 1.1 fewer opportunities with   David Montgomery on the field so I just feel like  we're getting Gibbs a round and a half later I'll   draft Anan in the middle of round two in in full  PPR leagues because I like him more than Barkley   and and Karan Williams so if my build's a wide  receiver first and I want one of these five or   six running backs you know that I trust I'll  take aan as early as round round two I get it   he's small and maybe we're it's wish casting  for 250 touches even but man this backfield   in Miami scored 50 plus more fantasy points than  any backfield had in years last year it's McDaniel   I mean it's such a good system such a good player  give me all the hn I actually think this is a good   conversation I'd be curious to get your thoughts  you mentioned um Anan right and obviously moster   got all the touchdowns last year so in terms of  and Rich rebar is actually who brought this up   in terms of touchdown over rushing touchdowns  overexp expected Miami was up there like by a   large margin and on one hand you can argue well  of course they're going to regress in the rushing   touchdown department overall which would of course  lower the ceiling of everybody in that backfield   on the other hand you know when you have Kyle  Shanahan's Run game coordinator as the head coach   of a football team how much more regression are  you really worried about in the rushing touchdown   Department yeah and I wanted to to give two I mean  maybe Tua should have thrown three or four more I   mean definitely was a little unlucky in touchdowns  but he still had like 29 TD passes and what if   Hill or waddle get injured or what if moer gets  injured I mean there's contingency upside here and   I love that jayen Wright's emerged just use if you  draft hm just go jump right in the round 10 back   him up there for insurance and and even moster  Falls because people don't want you know so boring   and so old and so not boring but so worrisome  you know at his age but um all these backfields   just a gold mine and as you said McDaniel I mean  he was the ners Run game coordinator I mean this   is the real real stuff I mean all that motion it  yes they'll regress some next year and hn won't   have the highest yards per carry in NFL history  again but man he's going to remain efficient and I   love his upside as a receiver I believe he had the  same number of First read targets as Rashad white   last year and this is as a rookie and missing a  bunch of snaps first read targets and they've been   lining them up out wide in preseason so a ton of  upside through the air here through aan he could   be the number one fantasy back or or number two  or three in only 248 touches like he really has   that range of outcomes yeah I I I agree with you  there his range of outcomes is absolutely out of   this world and the one thing I did want to mention  about him because I know there's a little bit of   injury concern with him in particular the thing  you tell me too small bulked up do you like sorry   to interrupt do you like hearing the bulking up  that stuff okay now I'll leave the floor to you   tell throw some cold water on it if I'm off I mean  I I get it he's I'm more more worried about him   than I would say Richardson I mean how they're  built no I I don't think that it's necessarily   something I I think it's a good discussion I  don't necessarily think that it's predictive   of injury right so if you look at the study where  they there's basically the study they did over 10   years a 10-year period and what they saw was that  there was essentially no difference in injury   rates based on BMI between running backs who saw  150 carries or running backs who saw 300 plus   carries and I'm not an injuring alarmist right but  I tweeted this in in July we can't predict injury   you know but when we look at Devon hn before he  bulked up his BMI was 27.8 I mean he's ever so   slightly outside of that quote unquote safe Zone  where where there's no difference in in running   back injury where you know but barely right we're  talking like 28 29 you know he's just outside of   that what would consider safe zone of a BMI his  BMI is around 28 but again he bulked up that   could help we can't necessarily say that he missed  time last year because he was small right because   we've seen this injury I mean Nick chub a massive  human a strong human squatting 500 pounds eight   months postop from an ACL he has had MCL issues  prior to this major injury that he had in 2023 um   big strong running backs get injured just as often  as a smaller one so I don't I think it's what I'm   trying to say is I think it's a little overblown  we do like to hear that he bolted up we do like to   hear that they're implementing you know a strength  program form that's not a bad thing so you know I   think in as we move forward it's tough to project  things that we've never seen before but you know   we didn't think Devonte Smith well not we but some  people the collective Wei generally thought oh no   way Devonte Smith can be successful right the same  thing happened with tankel no way tankel can be   successful I think we're just starting to see that  position lless football really start to take over   and if you know they do limit his touches they do  limit his some of his between the tackles carries   in ter uh when talking about Devon Anan then I  don't see a reason why he can't be successful   in play you know the average 13 14 games so no I  I don't necessarily have cold water poure on you   necessarily I I think that it's something that you  look at cautiously but it's not a reason to fade a   guy with with the upside that he has and the way  I look at it even he misses three or four games   no player in the league is more likely to help  win you're weak those you know other 12 or so   he's active so I I think the upside is is worth it  but definitely risk and my next guy not quite the   a young guy but another injury-prone absolutely  injury risk is Cooper cup man I just I was in   on him throughout summer his ADP is definitely  climbed um but I love the positive reports but   we have many many things to go over here first  of all just the best setup in in with the Rams I   mean they're wide receivers it's condensed they're  routinely top top three fantasy production every   year puka nakua ran more routes last year than  he did all his college career and he enters the   season with an injury I know this versus sack is  not supposed to be serious I'd love to hear your   opinion um and he's practicing fully Now Greg  Thal from nfl.com was on established the Run   pod and basically said like I won't speak speak  anymore but I would avoid ncua I don't know he he   seems to know things um so I hope NOA Nika stays  healthy and everything's fine with him but CU   matched him in targets last year playing on one  leg do not look at his efficiency yes of course   he was bad last year he was completely compromised  normally I'm not after 31-year-old wide receivers   but historically entering their eighth year in the  league has not seen their Baseline production drop   uh he's supposedly healthy the center piece  of this offense we do need Matthew Stafford   to stay healthy as well but um talk to me about  cup because I've been willing to draft him early   second round and I actually have him ranked ahead  of NCA so I'm never gonna end up in n on any teams   no I mean I think okay so you hit on a couple  different things there number one pukin AA return   to practice on Monday with doing individual  drills he's going to have plenty of time to   get back by week one I'm not going to deny that  you know these reporters Rosenthal in particular   probably has you know information we're not privy  to I get that maybe nothing at the same time   no disrespect medical non-med personnel  non-medical reporters they mess things up and   misinterpret all the time which is understandable  they're not trained in medicine they're not   training in sports medicine that that happens  right an example that I just gave on Twitter   last year Adam shter came on his own podcast and  declared that Jerry Judy was going to be out six   or seven weeks with his hamstring stram because  he thought it was severe well jry Judy was out   like two or three weeks and he was back out on the  field and I said at the time Hey listen let's not   get over our skis here if we look at the data  that's not necessarily the most likely outcome   and lo and behold that's exactly what happened and  shefter a reliable guy with reliable sources right   um not to say that rosenal isn't but again he did  say at the end something rosenal said something   along lines of like Vibes right bad vibes so  who knows what he knows but again this pukaa   situation I think is being a little overblown  um the thing about those injuries is that they   are extremely painful you don't want to rupture  don't you don't want to rupture any sacks but if   if if you're gonna rupture a sack you know Bursa  sack is probably the number two I don't want to   rupture so you know that's a painful thing it just  takes a little bit of time to get back but it's   not going to be something that lingers if you were  going to be concerned about puking a c in his knee   prior to this then that's a different situation a  different story he did kind of struggle with his   knee through college so that's something that  we're going to have to monitor sort of like AJ   Brown in the early parts of AJ Brown's career but  I'm not super concerned with puka AA and I'm I'm   not you know super concerned with Cooper cup you  mentioned his history right and I think painting   the context is super important last year he was  out for weeks one through four obviously right   he was on his deathbed he was you know you know  going to go on his retirement tour and you know   it was the end of the world for Cooper cup and I  said at the time probably not likely comes back in   week five uh and week five and six he averages 20  points week seven obviously we see Cooper up for   154 cup didn't look so hot Stafford gets injured  in week eight Stafford also misses week nine both   of those games puka and cup they both score  fewer than six PPR points right so then they   have their bi-week in week 10 week 11 Stafford's  back Cooper cup rolls his ankle scores 1.3 points   all right then in week 12 puka and cup again they  both combined to score less than six PPR points   what you finally on week 13 to 17 after he was you  know he battled the hamstring he battled the ankle   cup averaged 14.8 points per game good for wide  receiver 11 C pukan AOA finished wide receiver   three the thing about the the risk with Cooper  cup isn't that he has necessarily fallen off in my   opinion the risk with Cooper cup is that there's a  34% risk of reinjuring your hamstring but we said   the exact same thing about Cooper about uh Keenan  Allen last year Keenan Allen shoved it down my   throat um and from a fantasy perspective you can  say what you want about him as a receiver and harm   is not necessarily high on him at this point in  his career but Cooper cup is and this this stuff   does matter it's not just conjecture right like he  is one of the hardest workers by all accounts by   most reporters different sources will tell you  he is a nut job there's a story about pukan AA   working out with Cooper cup and and every morning  you know in the offseason and for the first week   pukan AOA was like throwing up in the bushes  because he couldn't keep up with Cooper Cup right   t almost you know seven eight years older than  puka so all those things matter and the reason I   say that is because those those recurrence rates  that I give uh I like to remind people they're   not static it's going to be individual you have to  zoom in and look at the situation at hand and the   situation at hand is that we have the last Triple  Crown winner who's 30 you know one years old uh   is better than Keenan Allen was at that point  last year is in a better offense with a better   play caller in a better situation with a at this  point in their careers with a better pedigree and   and body of work I don't see the point of fading  Cooper cup because last year went poorly um if   you want a fade Cooper cup because you think that  his role will change atically okay I guess we can   have a conversation but people are just scared off  because of his age and the injury history and I   I didn't mean to take over the podcast here dton  but I'm not again G to pour water on on this pick   I mean in the other super Flex dag that this is  basically a mirror image the other draft that I'm   in with other analysts I was at the at the 12 slot  and um I took Cooper cup in the third round right   so I'm not afraid to to to shoot for the stars  with Cooper cup so I'm all in there too okay good   to hear I know the hamstring is a is obviously  the main concern because that was you know just   kind of a unique one to when you don't have all  the information but good to hear that you're not   overly concerned other than just in general the  the recurrence rat's pretty high for hamstring   it sounds like that's that's uh more so than high  generally speaking yes yes yes High unle sprain   actually they don't they don't recur as often as  um as the narratives will tell you uh soft tissue   injuries hamstrings in particular can get bad but  I mean another guy who almost tore his hamstring   off the bone was Mike Evans and he hasn't had any  issues since 2019 with it so again the recurrence   rates you know they happen but if we were going to  see a recurrence for Cooper cup we probably would   have seen it at some point last year not to say  that it it can't happen but it's again those those   numbers aren't static and if a dude works hard  with their medical staff and their medical staff   is sharp which the Rams medical staff is sharp you  definitely can mitigate that risk um and yeah so   that that that that's where I stand on cup so I'm  glad that we agreed there who's your next guy here   before we go my next guy the last guy I want  to ask you real quick do you have a heightened   concern of of Chase in in auk and lamb I know lamb  just signed but do you have a heighten injury risk   the guys that are holding out or holding in this  is actually that's actually a good question I   talked to Matthew Betts another physical therapist  in the space and um you know he he actually looked   at this and they there didn't seem to be much of  an increase in Risk at all um I think it off the   top of my head lamb has been on the injury report  with like a groin issue and a calf issue so if any   of those guys if I was uh semi- concerned about  any of those guys it would probably be him and auk   also has a history of hamstring strain so if they  try to ramp up too quickly too soon then you know   I think that there is an increased risk but I mean  we're talking if you're facing you know staring   down the barrel of of CD lamb versus Christian  mcaffrey coin flip it I still don't care I I I   don't think the risk is um apparent enough I don't  think that it's substantive substantive enough to   really make a difference there same thing with  Jamar Chase I guess you have better options   with you know Jamar chase that that situation is  getting weirder by the day not sure what's going   on uh maybe they're in a group chat Jamar Chase  and brand and Brandon iuk uh to to play chicken   and see who's going to report first or get their  deal done first um but no I'm not long story short   uh I'm not extremely concerned with either of  those guys I do think that there's a little bit of   a risk but overall like those guys are both kind  of monsters in their own right so I think given   their ADP I'm not I'm not going to make it you  know use it as a tiebreaker okay that's fair all   right before we get to my final guy I'll give you  one more hot take I mov Kenneth Walker in my as my   rb10 ahead of etn ahead of Peko after they signed  pyan I think he's going to be a monster in Seattle   and I just love I think the Situation's going to  be so much better there uh in Seattle but my final   guy is James Connor another injury guy I just  like to talk to you about um I I just have been   targeting all Arizona guys I think their offense  is going to be good much better this year it was   top 10 last year in the second half before adding  Marvin Harrison and now Murray will be a second   year removed from uh his knee surgery um Ian  hardit uh tweeted this games missed over the last   three seasons Jonathan Taylor 13 kyen Williams 12  mcaffrey 11 Bree Hall 10 Derrick Henry 10 James   Connor 10 so yes he's likely at this stage of his  career to miss another three or four games but I   think he can be a top five fantasy back when he's  on the field I mean he last year he was awesome   there no guarantee he'll be you know top three in  rush yards of expectation again but this is a good   player in a much improved situation I see a lot  of shootouts in the NFC West so uh tell me I'm not   being too overly injury optimistic with a guy like  Connor you know an aging back who obviously misses   multip two to three two to four games every year  that's really yeah that's an interesting one right   so obviously my whole ethos is like injury prone  is a lie right and to a certain degree I I still   believe that you know there's a nuance and some  conversation to be had but I'm telling you I don't   know I thought James Connor was gonna be out of  the league and injured three years ago I I tweeted   I remember about his his connected tissue injur  he even got into like some like an ATV accident or   something and he like like broke his collar bone  or something crazy and I was like dude this guy   like can't even stay healthy when he's not playing  football so I thought that some connective tissue   dysfunctional thing was happening with him not  the case he's still chugging along I think that   as he gets older then you know recovering and  bouncing back does get a little tougher so you   know he's he's shoved it down my throat the last  three four seasons in a very similar way that that   Derrick Henry has and you know ultimately what we  have is James Connor a guy who like you said like   his numbers are are are it's almost like he's  aging in Reverse so it's very strange to to   see and observe I'm still taking some Trey Benson  when when I when I can get him I still think that   you you're still living with that risk of uh not  just necessarily him getting injured but as backs   get older there's a reason that their production  falls off as their contract years go on as their   age go on because you know these guys I I think  it just goes under it goes under discussed how   much split seconds matter and when you get into  that 28 29 30y old type of uh you know type of   back then that Split Second that they may have in  their processing time just they can't quite make   that cut anymore they can't quite get that step  on the on the competition like that stuff matters   and it results that Split Second results in just  like dramatic falloffs so that's still a risk   with James Conor right that's the risk that I view  more so you know I guess on top of the injury risk   um because it's always something random with him  so I do think that of all the guys you've listed   he it's funny because he's the guy that's proved  me wrong so often but he's also the guy that you   know has me has me clutching my pearls a little  bit um so that's sort of where I stand on James   Conor but I also understand the upside case that  you're making for him I seem to be on on him the   wrong year every time the year he gets in is  so it'll probably happen this one and he he's   not super super high in drafts um but yeah he uh  you absolutely could be right as far as aging and   and he absolutely could decline quickly at that  stage of his career but how I'm kind of treating   it is that Benson's more of an insurance policy  and KN not really the more you look into his   college career I don't think he's a threat to uh  certainly not a threat to Connor if he plays like   he did last year and again he'll probably miss  a couple games but I think there's upside that   he's like a really legit top five fantasy back win  on the field per game this year no absolutely and   anybody else Dalton who else do these drafters  need to get these listeners need to get on their   teams again Kenneth Walker is a guy moving up  my board Malik neighbors I've been a I was in on   him before the camp highlights I get that Daniel  Jones is a problem and that pick six has hopefully   helped his his ADP but Daniel Jones was a league  league average success rate with dble last year   small sample but I think neighbors is gonna  get 160 plus targets if not 180 if he can stay   healthy and he's just going to be approach Marvin  Harrison's SE season only a couple rounds later   all right there you have it everybody that you  need to draft Anthony Richardson tell me if I   miss somebody Anthony Richardson devvon hhan  James Connor Kenneth Walker Malik neighbors   who was the other one that I'm missing here that  we talked about oh Cooper cup old man cup Cooper   cup of course how could I forget about old man  cup those are the guys dton D Dawn's getting   on a squad those are the guys that you should  be getting on a squad Dal before we get out   of here where do you want to direct the people  follow me on Twitter at or X Dalton Delon and   yeah usually pretty good at getting back at  lineup questions and and whatnot uh the best   I can thanks for having me on man good good times  talking injuries because uh I wanted to highlight   those guys but those I didn't even have to make  a stretch those really are the guys I'm targeting   the most so hopefully hopefully it doesn't  end in heartache because what could go wrong   you know relying on Richardson and hn and cup I  mean what that yeah yeah big swings big swings   we got to take big swings around here all right  everybody thanks for listening thanks for tuning   in make sure you follow him on Twitter at Dalton  Dell Dawn we will catch you on the flip side