REALLY SERIOUS. OKAY. AND IF YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET THAT EXCITED BY MUCH. BUT I THINK WE JUST HAD THE HEAVIEST INDICTMENT OF BOTH CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT. >> ON ONE LEVEL, I SHOULD BE LIKE, OH, GOOD BECAUSE ON ONE LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS ALMOST A HOLY CONFIRMATION OF WHAT I ARGUE TO YOU ALMOST EVERY DAY, WHICH IS THAT 2 PARTY SYSTEM, IT'S A BAD THING. BUT AT SAME TIME, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. OKAY. THE ARGUABLY THE MOST RESPECTED MAN IN THE WORLD. IS POPE FRANCIS. OKAY? CERTAINLY THERE'S THE BETTER PART OF A BILLION PEOPLE THAT WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. >> THE POPE CALLED. >> HARRIS VERSUS TRUMP. A CHOICE. OF THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR SECOND. SO HE'S SAYING, LOOK, HARRIS IS OK WITH ABORTION, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. NOBODY'S LIKE PRO ABORTION. IT'S PRO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE HAVING THE CHOICE OF WHAT THEY WANT. WOMEN DO, WHAT THEY WANT OVER HOW TO TREAT THEIR OW BODY. >> THEN HE SAYS AND TRUMP IS AND TIE IMMIGRANT AND YOU CAN'T BE BUILDING WALLS AND BE A CHRISTIAN, YOU KNOW, RE SAID THAT ABOUT TRUMP BACK IN 2016 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY HAVE. BUT THIS IS. SO HERE'S WHY IT'S GOT MY HEAD COOKING AND I WANT TO SEE IF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, RIGHT? WILL DO CALLS LATER. SO THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE STOP. WHEN I USE THAT PHRASE. WHEN YOU USE THAT PHRASE, IT'S THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. I'M REALLY JUST MAKING A NEGATIVE COMPARISON, RIGHT? LIKE NEITHER OF THESE ARE GREAT CHOICES, RIGHT? LIKE THE LESS BAD OF 2 CHOICES. THERE'S HYPERBOLE. THERE'S ED WRIGHT EXAGGERATION GOING INTO MY TINY EXACT ABOUT SEAL ON IT. THERE IS EXAGGERATION AND THE METAPHOR OF THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. BUT WHEN IT COMES FROM BILL POP UP THE PONTIFF. THE POPE. CALLING SOMETHING LITTLE ON SOMEONE EVIL. REALLY HEAVY RIGHT? YEAH, I'M RAISED CATHOLIC, THIS LIKE A HOLY MAN. THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. AND YOU SAY, WELL. MAYBE I'M TAKING IT, TOO. LITERALLY. MAYBE HE MEANT THAT THE WAY WE DID. BUT HE'S THE POPE LIKE THIS IS WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT HIS MORALITY, HEAVEN AND IT ALL THE HE REALLY BELIEVES IN THAT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. I LISTEN TO IT. AND HE WAS SPEAKING IN ITALIAN. HE USES THE PHRASE. MALI MEAN OR THEY MEANT THE MODEL, A. >> NOW THAT'S TRICKY WORD. MENORAH MEANS THE LESS OK? SO WE'RE SAYING HE SAID THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. MEANS BAD. OKAY. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IKE IN ENGLISH WHERE IT'S THERE'S THE WORD EVIL. AND THERE'S THE WORD BAD. AND OF COURSE, EVIL IS BAD. BUT BAD IS ALSO A SEPARATE WORD FROM EVIL. AND ITALIAN. MOLLY IS BAD AND IT DOES MEAN EVIL. IF YOU WANTED TO SAY THE WORD EVIL, YOU WOULD SAY AND THEY DO USE THE WORD. MOLLY. IN OTHER WORDS, MOLLY, IS SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED. OKAY. I'VE BEEN CALLED JUST NOW BABY COUSIN GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. FIRST LANGUAGE, ITALIAN. TO GET A FEEL OF HOW SERIOUSLY I TAKE THIS YOUNG GUY. HE'S ONLY 19 YEARS OLD. HE WAS LIKE, OH, NO, THAT'S IT'S THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY THIS POPE BECAUSE OF HOW HE FEELS ABOUT IMMIGRANTS MORE SO THAN ABORTION. RIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE POPE HAS BEEN EXPANDING MERCY TOWARDS A SINFUL ACT WITHIN HIS FAITH OF ABORTION. RIGHT? YOU SHOULD FORGIVE. YOU SHOULD HAVE MERCY ON THEM. PASTOR SHOULD DO THAT. THEY SHOULD FORGIVE PEOPLE. I PROVIDE A PATH TO FORGIVENESS FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD ABORTIONS. SO HE'S BEEN EXPANSIVE ON THAT. WHEREAS ON MIGRANTS, HE'S BEEN EXPANSIVE IN THE CONDEMNATION. THAT HE BELIEVES THAT TO HAVE A A FREE AND CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDING OF IMMIGRATION IS THAT IT SHOULD BE WIDE OPEN. THEY SHOULD BE WELCOMED AND YOU SHOULD HELP THEM TRANSITION AND YOU SHOULD HELP THEM BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY. SO HE IS TRULY OPEN BORDER. AND THAT IS