Kamala Harris accused of looking for 'escape hatch' from Trump debate

>> Todd: THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SAYS CLARIFIES IS LOOKING FOR AN OUT WITH A LITTLE MORE THAN A WEEK TO GO BEFORE THEIR FIRST DEBATE. >> I THINK THAT THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING FOR ESCAPE HATCH. THEY REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE DEBATE WHICH, AGAIN, EVERYONE HAD ALREADY AGREED TO IT. WE AGREED TO IT. ABC AGREED TO IT. THE RULES ARE THE RULES. THEY ARE NOT CHANGING. KAMALA HARRIS AND HER CAMPAIGN, THEY ARE AFRAID. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY? BECAUSE SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER FOR EVERY BIT OF THIS LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS. >> A PRESIDENT OF DISTRICT. P MEDIA GROUP AND WOMEN'S FORUM BEVERLY JOINS ME NOW. CUT THROUGH ALL THE NOISE OF THIS. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR WEEKS NOW WILL THEY? WON'T THEY? MICS? WHAT'S THE DEAL? WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE? >> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TO FIND OUT WHAT SHE ACTUALLY AGREES TO. I THINK THE WAY THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IS RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN IS VERY REMINISCENT OF HOW JOE BIDEN RAN HIS BASEMENT CAMPAIGN STRATEGY FOUR YEARS AGO IT. SEEMS THAT WHAT DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO IS KEEP HASTE OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. ANY TIME SHE IS NOT AROUND THE TELEPROMPTER, THEY WANT TO KEEP HER QUIET. I MEAN, LOOK AT THE DATA SO FAR. SHE HAS NOT DONE A SOLO INTERVIEW. SHE HAS NOT HELD A PRESSURES. AND NOW A DEBATE WHICH ARE THE SAME RULES THAT JOE BIDEN AGREED TO DURING HIS CNN DEBATE, SHE SEEMS TO BE HAVING COLD FEET. SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE HARD FOR HER TEAM TO SAY SHE IS NOT GOING TO DO THIS DEBATE WHEN JOE BIDEN DID IT HIMSELF. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DEMAND THIS DEBATE. IT SHOWS THE COLD FEET FOR A GOOD REASON BECAUSE I THINK HONESTLY SEE THAT SHE IS STRUGGLING TO BE ABLE TO STAY ON MESSAGE. ALSO ABOUT THE OPTICS. IS SHE OPTICALLY GOING TO HAVE THE TYPE OF NOT JUST SUBSTANCE BUT STYLE THAT THAT SHE NEEDS? >> Todd: GREAT QUESTION TRUMP EXPLAINING WHY HE THINKS VP HARRIS WILL ONLY DO ONE NETWORK THAT NETWORK ABC. >> THAT'S THE THE ONLY ONE SHE WILL GO TO. THE OTHER ONE IS THE HEAD OF ABC IS HER BEST FRIEND AND HER HUSBAND'S INTES FRIEND, TOO. I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION I DO WANT TO DEBATE. I WOULD LIKE TO DEBATE -- >> Todd: TO BE CLEAR WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS COMMENTING ABOUT A VERY HIGH LEVEL EXECUTIVE AT ABC IS VERY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH DOUG EMHOFF AND KAMALA HARRIS WITH THAT IN MIND TO TRUMP' POINT CAN VOTERS TRUST ABC TO BE RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND IMPARTIAL IN DEBATE WITH ALL OF AMERICA WATCHING? >> ? THIS IS WHERE AMERICA WILL CALL THEM OUT DID THEY ARE NOT. THERE IS BIAS WHEN YOU DEAL WITH LEGACY MEDIA. IT'S NOT A SHOCK THAT ABC IS NOT FRIENDLY TO DONALD TRUMP AND HIS POLICIES. I GIVE HIM CREDIT WHEN HE SAYS I'M WILLING TO GO WHEREVER I NEED TO GO DEBATE KAMALA HARRIS. AGAIN, PUTTING A SHOT LIGHT ON SOMEONE WHO SEEMS AFRAID TO DEBATE HIM. SO I THINK IS HE PUTTING HER IN THIS TOUGH POSITION OF HAVING TO SAY YES. AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME RULES THAT JOE BIDEN AGREED TO. WHY WON'T KAMALA HARRIS AGREE TO THOSE SAME RULES? I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE HER NEXT WEEK ON THAT DEBATE STAGE. I THINK THE RULES ARE GOING TO STAY AS IS. >> Todd: LET'S CREATE A HYPOTHETICAL HERE. NEITHER PARTY CAN REALLY CLAIM VICTORY ON SEPTEMBER 10TH AT 11:00 ONCE THE DEBATE IS OVER. BOTH SIDES CLAIM SOME SORT OF VICTORY. BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAY SOMETHING IT'S NOT A BLOODBATH LIKE JUNE 26TH WHICH JOE BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP DEBATED. DO YOU THINK THEY DO A SECOND DEBATE? >> I DON'T THINK SO AT THIS POINT. I WOULD LOVE MORE DEBATES. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO PUSH FOR THAT BUT, I THINK THIS IS WHAT BOTH CANDIDATES NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. NOW, FOR DONALD TRUMP, WHO IS VERY QUICK ON HIS FEET. I THINK HE HAS TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT LOOKING LIKE A BULLY TOWARDS KAMALA HARRIS. STICK TO THE POLICIES, LEAVE THE PERSONAL INSULTS ALONE. LET KAMALA HARRIS BURY HERSELF. NOW, ON KAMALA HARRIS' STANDPOINT, SHE CANNOT HAVE WORD SALADS. SHE HAS TO SEEM DEMANDING AND EVEN IN HER MISSING WHERE SHE HAD TIM WALZ ON HER SIDE. EYE CONTACT WAS POOR. THERE WAS HESITANCY. SHOE HE HAS TO COME OUT IN A COMMANDING WAY IF SHE DOESN'T IT WILL BE BAD FOR HER. NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS THE BIDEN DEBATE. I THINK THIS COULD SEAL THE DEAL FOR WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE THINK KAMALA HARRIS IS COMPETENT ENOUGH ESPECIALLY IN COMMUNICATION IN ORDER TO BE PRESIDENT. >> Todd: IF WE REMEMBER BACK TO WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE BIDEN DEBATE, SOON THEREAFTER, ACTOR GEORGE CLOONEY WROTE A AN OP-ED BASICALLY CALLING ON JOE BIDEN STEP DOWN E WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT IT. HIS ANSWER, CURIOUS. LISTEN. >> YOU KNOW, I -- I -- I -- I HAVE NEVER HAD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION SO I SUPPOSE I'LL DO IT HERE. THE PERSON WHO SHOULD BE APPLAUDED WHO IS THE PRESIDENT WHO DID THE MOST SELFLESS THING SINCE GEORGE WASHINGTON AND THAT'S TRUE. >> Todd: EBBS SEPTEMBER, BEVERLY, GEORGE WASHINGTON DIDN'T HAVE AN OP-ED FROM A POPULAR ACTOR AT THE TIME DEMANDING THAT HE STEP DOWN. WHERE'S THE SHAME IN GEORGE CLOONEY, BEVERLY? >> IT REALLY IS QUITE RICH. AND I ACTUALLY VIEW THIS AS TYPICAL BULLYING TACTIC. HERE YOU HAD GEORGE CLOONEY WHO DIDN'T DO THIS ON HIS OWN. I DON'T THINK HE WROTE THIS OP-ED. HE HAS GHOST WRITERS. I THINK HE HAD DEMOCRATS BEHIND HIM. PUTTING JOE BIDEN TO LEAVE AND OTHER DEMOCRATS FORCING HIM. THE DEAL THEY GAVE HIM WAS, IF YOU DO, THIS WE ARE GOING TO PRAISE YOU. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PUTTING YOU ON MOUNT RUSH MORE. WE ARE GOING TO CALL YOU SELFLESS AND COMPARISONS TO GEORGE WASHINGTON AND BEST PRESIDENT WHO EVER LIVED. THIS WAS HIS CONCESSION PRICE SO TO SPEAK BY CAVING TO THEIR BULLYING TACTICS. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BUY IT. MOST PEOPLE SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. APPARENTLY WITH DEMOCRATS, THEY STILL GO ON WITH THE SAME NARRATIVE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TRUE. >> GEORGE WASHINGTON DIDN'T SPEND 16 STRAIGHT DAYS AT A BEACH. GEORGE WASHINGTON'S EXPERIENCE WITH WATER WAS CROSSING THE DELAWARE AND BASICALLY WINNING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR. BEVERL