FIRST TAKE | "Without Dak Prescott! It's CRAZY" - Stephen A. RIPS Dan Orlovsky's list of Elite QBs

did you just say nine this man out his M this man hot oh my God nine so the phrasing I use the way I describe it is quarterbacks you win because of there's a high amount of quarterbacks that teams win with in the NFL but because of and it's broken down to two different places there's nine the two guys that were tough to leave off both Jaylen Herz and BR uh Jordan love Jordan just got to see a little bit more I I think he's right on that Verge and then Jaylen I just want to see what he looks like this year coming back in with Kell Mo as his play call third offensive quarter in three years um when because of is broken down into two separate things one we win the game even though our defense gave up a ton of points whether it's 26 2830 like we find a way to win more often than not because of you or we're we're hurt on offense we're missing receivers or you know our offensive lines beat up and we not every but we find a way to win the game because of you those are the two kind of the criterias that they're put into and I think there's nine of them good Lord have who's going first Tak it I'll I'll go Shannon goe Ste I'll go Shannon good Lord I I I I just need to pray for olski I mean sometimes sometime and then when it come to the quarterback position we have to remember we have an obligation toell all because see I love Dan I love Dan we all love Dan and stuff like that I mean it's genuine love here you understand I'm saying some haterade out there for him they ain't got got no business doing that but we got love for him but then he has moments like this and we have to remind it that Dan has a very soft spot when it comes to quarterbacks he's not objective he's not objetive Dan wants Dan Dan want to sprinkle roses and any walkway that quarterbacks walk through it I mean this is unbeliev nine nine great quarterbacks I need to see the list again can we put the list back who you got to who you want to take off Patrick listen excuse me let say what I want to put on let me tell let me tell you what I want to put on I'm going to sit up there and I'm going to put on Patrick Mahomes I'm going to put a two-time league MVP and Lamar Jackson we can't ignore the stud that is Josh Allen because when he's not going against Mahomes or burrow he'll beat up on everybody else okay and I'm G to put Aaron roders in there as just resume Matthew Stafford is great that's your brother I know how much you love him and he's a Super Bowl champion and I know he can Ball but damn it he was he was in Detroit for years okay don't get me started with that yeah that's on Detroit that's not on Matthew that's not on him he a part of it he was a part of it though that's on Detroit Johnson though but that's true he Shannon come on come on now he did all right all right Brock pie you just got onto the scene I need longevity CJ strad is a stud but I need longevity I need to see you do it again I need to see you do it no one hit wers on here but really the only the only issue Dan really that I would say is Brock pie I'm not sure about I know that he gets it done but I don't know he really has I'm not putting no eight quarterbacks up there has that tal everyone else on there absolutely can I see that list again so you're not putting Joe burrow up there Steph I said Joe burrow I said Joe bur Lamar ja Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes everybody else got something the proov Brock Brock pie who's gone to the NFC championship game and then the Super Bowl he was Sensational in the Super Bowl and he's taking second stop one second Dan all I'm saying is this not saying they haven't shown they can be elite but to qualify and classify them as Elite I need a link your resume that's all I'm saying there's a difference go ahead Shannon dan stop this Brock py was not Sensational in the Super Bowl he played okay but he wasn't Sensational he was not and there's never been 90 League quarterbacks in the NFL never ever ever and we're not listen at some point in time you can still be remain friends with these guys and still tell the truth I got four I got momes Lamar burrow and Josh Allen Aaron Rogers was but I'm going to need to see it Stephen A and you said I'm gonna put him in there because of his resume but I'm GNA need to see him get back to the level I look at it and Dan you gave a lot of good points I want to see a guy that can win the game because and not rely on other aspects okay great outstanding defense I look look at a guy if we don't have a running game that day I need Lamar Jackson I need Joe burrow I need Patrick Mahomes I need Josh Allen to go win the game and bro you might get 20 yards rushing that's all I got for you today I might need you to outgun somebody I believe the four guys that I Nam can go do that now I know Aaron Rogers once upon a time but he is a lot older and he's coming off a significant injury so that's the only reason that I left him off was because of the significant injury and the age and I haven't seen him play out a year but you just and I'm like Stephen A in this aspect I'm gonna need to see more than one year I've seen a lot of guys do something great for one year but I need to see a more a a more extensive body of work CJ stra he definitely trending in the right direction he's a stock I would purchase Jordan love he's a stock I would purchase but man you got to stop this notion talk about nine Elite quarterbacks there's never ever been 90 League quarterbacks at any juncture in the NFL in 100 plus year history never ever well my my push back to you Shannon would be I'm of the belief that I think this is the most talented the quarterback position has been top to bottom that the NFL has ever had now I'm only 41 years old so I'm not going to talk about what the quarterbacks were all like in 1970 because I wasn't around watching it then but I do think that we have more talented quarterbacks physically talented quarterbacks from number one to number 20 than we've ever had in the NFL that's just because the the elite level of the group yeah you you leaving up Rogers because of his age and injury that's that's fine I look at it differently I have incredibly high expectations for Rogers this year the one year with CJ strad I I can like I think he's firmly planted into that group already I just watch the game like my my point with the CJ thing is this this wasn't an easy thing for CJ to accomplish last year Houston W stunk running the ball on first down two CJ did a lot of his damage on the hardest down to do it on third down that makes what he did last year while historical even in my eyes even more impressive because he did it on what is everybody's Viewpoint the hardest down to D it on third down Stafford y y'all can say what you want I've been on that for years we we look at Stafford very differently and Brock pie how can we s like Steve Shannon you just said if we don't run the ball well I need you to go get it done but have Lamar in your top four group but in the AC Championship they didn't run it well and he didn't get it done Lamar like I don't pin that on Lamar Lamar Lamar has a body Lamar has a body of work you remember when he didn't have Christian mcaffrey you remember when he didn't have Debo do you remember he didn't have Trent Williams how did he look but Shannon I'm aware like first of all no no no but no you constantly go back to that you constantly go back to that there's value in it but but this context matters the Minnesota game when he he was without a couple of those guys he did not play well missed a couple aggressive throws and I believe he had concussion protocol that week the Cleveland game weather played a little bit of factor he leads them down the field and they miss the field goal the context of this has to matter it can't just he but you but but hold on the other team the other team wasn't playing on the phone booth it was raining on them too I me sometimes you have seen it I've seen it rain over here and not be raining over there but in Cleveland that day it was raining on the Browns too it wasn't just raining on Brock p and the San Francisco offense and the next week when he didn't have those guys how did they look I just believe and I agree with you Dan I believe quarterback 1 through 20 are a lot better than in years past because they eat better they train they get better coping there's a lot this thing called Evolution sure yes yes I I will concede that with you but we just arbitrarily now we're just anybody that has a good year One Good Year we oh they Elite somebody has a great game oh he's Elite nah bro I'm G need more extensive body of work I'm going need to see a more extensive resume before I th I start throwing that title around I think I think what CJ did last year firmly plants him in that and I'm not taking Rogers Dan I like your list I gotta be honest with you just Brock pie I'm not certain on even Matthew Stafford I'd keep in there as well well well well I don't like the damn list I mean I I don't think it should be nine I think it should be four but let me say this to you orlovski there's never been a situation in NFL history where some dude played lights out and the next year they stunk up the joint that's never happened without injury I don't like that's never happened like they all they fall they've fallen off precipitously that's never happened I'm saying to you I'm not questioning CJ st's ability and I certainly believe in the brother he got he still got to he still got to prove it Brock py can ball and he deserves the praise he still got to prove more yeah I just I don't without injury Stephen A I don't remember a guy being this good this early and falling off without injury and the same thing Molly we had uh coach Ryan demo Ryan we doing a a tour for night cap and I said what you had last year you had a rookie head coach you had a rookie quarterback the expectations last year versus the expectations this year you and I both know Dio having played the game and Stephen A 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