Joey Jones: This is about pacifying Americans who are saying 'Really?'

DON'T." THAT DIDN'T WORK. I WILL SEE WHAT 6:00. I HAVE A LOT TO PREPARE FOR. [LAUGHTER] >> JOE JONES IS ON THE PHONE WITH US. HIGH, JOEY. >> HOW'S IT GOING? >> WE WILL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR. >> LISTEN, IF THIS WERE ABOUT DETERRENCE, IT WOULD'VE HAPPENED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. AT LEAST 150-AUDIT STRIKES AGAINST THE UNITED STATES AGO. REALLY? WE WILL LET US BE HIT 200 TONS, KILLED THREE OF US, INJURED OVER DOZENS OF US AND JUST SAY DON'T? THAT'S THE BEST POLICY? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS HAS TO DO WITH -- AND I HEARD THE JUDGE TALK ABOUT IT EARLIER ON THE SHOW -- THAT ANYTHING NOW MAKE POTENTIALLY AFFECT THIS AND ESCALATE INTO A WORSE ECONOMIC SITUATION AT HOME, BUT WHY IS THAT? WILL POLICY HAS LED TO THAT? THE TRUTH IS -- SAUDI ARABIA IS WATCHING, ISRAEL IS WATCHING. I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE COUNTRIES THAT WE WANT TO BE AN ALLY, WANT TO BE ON OUR SIDE OF THE BREAKOUT, ARE BEING INSPIRED BY THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT A LOT OF AMERICANS ARE SITTING HERE GOING "I DON'T THINK MY SON OR DAUGHTER NEEDS TO SERVE IN THIS MILITARY, AND I AM FOR WHATEVER --" CHANGES OUR PERSPECTIVE IN OUR GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY REGARDLESS OF THE PRESIDENT IS. DOING SOMETHING THAT MOST AMERICANS ARE NOT AWARE THAT THEY ARE DOING. >> GOOD POINT. JUDGE? >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GENERAL KELLOGG SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO IS "IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES, IRAN --" AND YET WE ALL KNOW THAT -- IN CHARGE. IRAN TRYING TO DENY THE CONNECTION IS ABSURD. THEY SUPPLY, TRAINED, AND PAID THEM. WHY IS IRAN PUSHING US IF THEY ARE AFRAID TO GO TO WAR WITH US? DO THEY HAVE, ARE THE CLOSE TO A NUCLEAR WEAPON? >> I BELIEVE IRAN GOT WHAT THEY WANTED ALREADY. I MEAN, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THREE AMERICANS WERE KILLED, THERE IS A DISPUTE BETWEEN UNITED STATES AND JORDAN AS TO WHERE THIS HAPPENED, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THIS MESS ON THE DOORSTEP. LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ISRAEL. LOOK AT THE FACT THAT AMERICA IS HAVING TO EXCUSE HIMSELF FOR ANSWER FOR EVERY CYCLE THING IT DOES IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW AMONG ITS OWN PEOPLE WITH A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION COMING UP. I THINK FOR IRAN, THAT'S ENOUGH. THEY DON'T NEED TO GO TO WAR WITH US TO SHOW THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT WE MAY NOT BE AS STRONG AS WE SAY WE ARE, WE MAY NOT HAVE AS STRONG OF A VOICE. I THINK THE GOAL FOR THEM IS THE DOUBT AMONG COUNTRIES THAT ALIGNS WITH THE U.S. OR ISRAEL MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN. I'M NOT LINDSEY GRAHAM. I HAVE SPENT EIGHT YEARS FIGHTING TWO WARS OVER THERE. I KNEW LESS ABOUT IT TODAY THAN I DID WHEN I WAS 18 I THINK. IT'S NOT THAT I WANT US TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN. A ADMINISTRATION THAT IS SO DECISIVE, WELL PLANNED, THAT BEFORE OUR OWN DEAD MAKE IT HOME, WE HAVE SETTLED THE SCORE AND DISCOURAGE THEM FROM DOING IT AGAIN, OR -- AND THIS IS A LOT TO ASK FOR -- STILL SO DECISIVE AND STRATEGIC THAT WE NEVER HAD BOTH SIDES -- 170 ATTACKS THAT HAPPENED. >> CAN I ASK YOU WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE DECISION, ON THE TIMING OF TELEGRAPHING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RESPONSE FOR SEVERAL DAYS, AND THAT THE IRG SEAT PULLED ALL OF ITS LEADERSHIP OUT OF SYRIA YESTERDAY. >> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN TRULY BELIEVES, THIS IS NOT AGAINST HIM, BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THEIR STRATEGY FROM THE BEGINNING, AND THEY ARE STICKING TO IT, THEY CAN GET THEIR WAY OUT OF A POTENTIAL CRISIS OR MORE. I HAVE FELT MUCH BETTER ABOUT IT THEN BACK THEN. >> YOU ARE IN GEORGIA. I SPENT MY WEEKS IN TEXAS. EVERYONE THAT YOU KNOW, THE POLLING SHOWS AMERICA HAS NO APPETITE FOR ANOTHER WAR. YOU HEAR INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE GENERAL SUGGESTING STRIKES ARE WARRANTED IN IRAN. WARS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. THEY METASTASIZE FROM A BUNCH OF SMALL DECISIONS. YOU END UP IN A WAR. WE DON'T LAUNCH WARS ANYMORE. WE CERTAINLY DON'T DECLARE WARS PICK THE LAST TIME WE HAD A CONGRESSIONAL DECLARATION OF WAR. DO YOU THINK THERE IS A CASE FOR ANY LEADER TO BE MADE THAT CONVINCES THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT WE SHOULD BE MESSING AROUND WITH WAR WITH IRAN? SPEAK OF MY BIGGEST CONCERN AS I WAS PART OF A 20 YEAR WAR THAT ENDED SO DESPERATELY THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW IY DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR WAR AS MUCH AS THEY DON'T TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT TO GET THEM INTO A WAR NO MATTER HOW JUST OR NECESSARY IT MAY BE. THAT IS WHAT IS SCARY. WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY AND SHED THE BLOOD, NO LONGER TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT TO SEND THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS OR THEMSELVES TO WAR, IT IS NOT ABOUT "WE DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR WAR." IF SOMETHING LIKE 9/11 HAPPENS TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE THE APPETITE TO SEEK RETRIBUTION AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING, OUR FAITH IN THE SYSTEM WE HAVE, THAT HAS BROKEN DOWN AT EVERY LEVEL ALONG THE WAY. THE FACT THAT WE -- FOR THE BORDERS WE HAVE, TO THE WORK WE DO. THAT IS THE INDUSTRY OF POLITICS MAKING ITS WAY INTO THE MINDS AND HEARTS OF US, TO THE POINT THAT WE DON'T TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT FOR OUR SECURITY ANYMORE. THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE. THAT LEADS TO THE RECRUITING OF -- THAT SPENDING WOES, LENDS TO PEOPLE CALLING FOR WHAT MAY BE THE BEST STRATEGY, BUT EVERYONE OF US SITTING THERE GOING "THAT IS THE WARHAWK, THE ONE THAT JUST WANTS TO DROP BOMBS." THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALL SEEN FOR FOUR YEARS, THAT'S ALL WE'VE SEEN. I LOST MY LEGS IN A WAR THAT LINDSEY GRAHAM WAS SAYING -- I'M NOT BEATING UP ON HIM, HE'S JUST THE MOST HONEST AND VOCAL ADVOCATE. HE TOLD ME THIS SITTING ON THE COUCH ON "FOX AND FRIENDS." "LOST MY LEGS BECAUSE WE DID THE RIGHT THING, FIGHTING THE WAR OVER THERE --" BUT IT'S AN EASY THING TO SAY WHEN YOU CAN DO A 60 MINUTES OR BRET BAIER PIECE THAT SHOWS THE CONNECTIONS, THAT WE ARE TOLD TO JUST BELIEVE THAT THEY GET TO BE THE PRESS SECRETARY OR PRESIDENT AT THAT MOMENT. THE AMERICAN APPETITE FOR BELIEVING THE FACTS AS THE GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU HAS GONE OUT THE WINDOW WITH THE AGE OF INFORMATION AND SOME OF THE BIGGER VOICES IN POLITICS RIGHT NOW. POLITICAL COMMENTARY. >> WONDERFULLY SAID. >> IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR HIM. A LITTER REALLY, HE IS THE EXPERT IN MY MIND. PUNISHMENT, AND JOEY, YOU CANNOT TELL ME TO SHUT UP, BUT PUNISHMENT FOR ME IS ALWAYS YOU PUT SOMEBODY IN A HOLE THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE IN IF THEY HAD NOT COME INTO THE INFRACTION. THESE THINGS ALWAYS SEEM TO ME INCREDIBLY PERFORMATIVE, NOT AS A DETERRENT, BUT JUST TO SAY WE DID SOMETHING. THE BAD GUYS END UP BACK AT THE STARTING BLOCK WHERE THEY JUST START BACK UP. >> HERE IS THE DEAL, GREG: WE SPENT 20 YEARS TAKING OUT STRATEGIC TARGET AFTER A STRATEGIC TARGET, STRATEGIC PERSON AFTER STRATEGIC PERSON, AS AFTER ASSET OF OUR ENEMIES. THEY NEVER LOST THE ABILITY TO HARM US AT ABOUT THE SAME RATE. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THESE BOMBINGS TODAY REDUCED THE ABILITY FOR ENEMIES IN THE REGION TO ATTACK US. THAT IS WHAT IS CONCERNING. IF YOU ARE NOT SENDING THE RIGHT SIGNAL, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A SIGNAL FOR ANYONE BUT THE BARGAIN PEOPLE, AT LEAST THERE IS SOMETHING AFFECTIVE THAT STOPS THEIR ABILITY TO HARM US