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hello and welcome to Big talk with Todd and Noah we are officially here it is officially week one and we are officially ready for some games week zero marked the return for college football but now we get to return Todd and I feel like right the energy is different already yeah it's going to be a blast I mean what more could you ask for we're opening up at the home of the defending national champions in a game that is probably going to be better than a lot of people anticipate so uh so yeah what a great way to start well let's go right into it and first down for us here today is a couple of the Big 10 teams in particular we start with our matchup and a Michigan team against a Fresno State team that won nine games last year and the previous two seasons won 10 plus you look at what they bring back there's still a lot of returning consistency new coach with Jeff Tedford having stepped down with health issues but what are you looking for as we get set for Michigan and Fresno State Saturday yeah well first of all starting with Fresno State since you led with them uh even though Jeff Tedford stepped down and he's an outstanding football coach I think his fingerprints will still be very much on the team the coordinators are the same you know so I think the system and everything will be pretty much the same there might be a few wrinkles that McAn brings in as as the OC but um very much the same kind of team this is a team that you mentioned won nine games they started out eight- one and then they hit a slide down the stretch uh Tedford stepped down they played really well in the bowl game uh with Skipper as the interim head coach and he starts the season that way so uh they're a team that has a lot of skill um you know defensively they struggled at at times last year which will be a challenge for them in this game but offensively uh I remember studying them last year because we had Purdue early in the year and they went to Purdue a big 10 team and beat him in the last part of the game and and Mikey Keane the quarterback threw the ball exceptionally well so they've got skill they've got talent I think they'll come in with swagger you know Fresno State reminds me of like a Boise State team that you know they're not afraid to play anybody I mean they'll go play anybody and early in the year is when you want to play a team like Michigan if you're Fresno State because the biggest difference between a Michigan and a Fresno State is as the season wears on the depth the quality depth is not the same with a Fresno State as it is with a Michigan and so but early in the year when they should be as healthy as they can be um this is their best shot to go in there and play well with that uh for Asos so you mentioned Mikey Keane coming back you have Malik sherro at running back coming back it's an offensive line that's expected to return four starters on top of that so you've got experience offensively including on the outside with two of their top receivers returning you mentioned defense being the real uh the real question mark let's call it for the Bulldogs you go up against a Michigan team that while they're not returning necessarily a ton of starters the interesting thing about Michigan is we saw them a bunch last year they were what three four deep at every position so guys who necessarily aren't starters a year ago will be starters now and they bring a ton of experience back with them they do and and the challenge for Fresno State in this ball game not just coming across the country not just playing in front of 100,000 plus where they're used to playing in front of 40 some thousand at home um but they will not face an offense or defensive line anywhere comparable to Michigan when they play in the Mountain West Conference so uh you know they're going to have their hands full up front Michigan wins games in the trenches the last three years the Big 10 Champions they've bludgeoned people and even teams that have equal Talent they've been better up front offensive line is all new all five of those starters last year are somewhere in the NFL may not make a full roster but they're there right now and then uh defensively uh this is an outstanding defensive front they were the best defense in the country last year uh they may not reach that same level but their two inside tackles of Kenneth Grant and Mason Graham are the best duo of interior defensive lineman in college football and so Fresno State even though they've got some experience on their offensive line they're going to look across and see these dudes and say whoa we don't see guys like this in the Mountain West Conference yeah you might say Jesse minter's gone but you're bringing wink marale it's the same system he he originated he calls himself the OG of this defensive system not to mention they can cut off half the field with Will Johnson at quarterback he might be the best corner in the country at least he's in that conversation so very exciting to see what they look like to repeat their their title and their title defense here we'll get back back to Michigan a little bit later in the show but just real quick USC is a top 25 team preseason as we talked about last week I know you're not a big pre-season poll type of guy because we got to see what these teams look like right Jon Point Florida State last week but with that being said USC and LSU week one it's a fun matchup at a legion Stadium I believe that's correct yeah in Vegas so uh top 25 matchup what do you look for in this one yeah of all the Big 10 teams opening the season this year I think this is the hardest matchup for a big 10 team USC playing LSU now the good news is they're playing in Vegas and not in Baton Rouge you know they're not playing them down in Death Valley in the Heat and humid humidity of Baton Rouge uh but from a talent standpoint you know this is a this is still an elite level team in LSU uh nus Meer takes over as a quarterback very similar stories for these two teams actually it's an interesting matchup because you have nus takes over he took over for Jaden Daniels who sat out the bowl game played well right you've got Miller Moss taking over at quarterback for USC he took over for Caleb Williams when he opted out of the bowl game played exceptionally well so they both should be confident guys they've been in the system they know what they're doing offensively the biggest question is you know can either one of them improve dramatically on defense and we'll see that on display so Danton Lynn comes over from UCLA did a great job with the ruins defense he's now the head defensive coordinator at USC and you know LSU went out and got a new coordinator coming from Missouri who was actually exceptional there too so the big downfall for both of these teams in the last couple years has been their inability to play defense and for LSU that's the most surprising thing because this was a program that for years was built on on outstanding defense I mean I can remember the days when them and Alabama were playing you know regular season knockdown drag out games it ended up as a n6 ball game you know they both played that kind of defense and it's not you know they they've been a long way from that here in the last few years also kind of showcases the modern game a little bit and obviously we know what Lincoln Riley's teams have looked like from Oklahoma all the way to La I do want to hit real quick before we move on to Second down number eight Penn State and West Virginia this was the season opener we had last year it was at Penn State dat a year ago it'll be at West Virginia on Saturday but the Drew Aller experience it feels like that's the biggest question mark what does he do in taking another step forward because if he can Penn State's a legitimate threat around the country well it'll be really interesting to watch I mean he was very efficient with the ball last year did a lot of really good things as a first year starter number one he took care of the football you know right 25 touchdowns only two interceptions the problem was they did not have enough explosive plays part of that might have been him not you know not wanting to pull the trigger because sometimes you throw the ball down field a guy can't be wide open you have to maybe throw a guy open or trust your receivers to go up and make a 5050 play he didn't do that enough part of it might have been play calling conservative part of that's why they made a switch by the end of the year and in offensive coordinators now a new guy comes in from Kansas Andy Colton Nikki so we'll see what that looks like and then wide receiver I just think that you know that's been a little bit of an area of weakness for the last couple years I don't know that they really upgraded that position we'll see uh how they look but but they need more explosive plays in the past game they've got their two running backs back their offensive line should be pretty solid they're good at tight end but can they get explosive downfield plays from their quarterback and wide receiver now this game coming up I mentioned USC LSU that's probably the toughest test for a big 10 team I think this is the second toughest test because we did that game last year it was 3815 it was much closer than the score indicated West Virginia played well they were able to run the football I I was very impressed with their quarterback Garrett green last year he's back you know so he's a he's a confident guy plays with a lot of swagger and I've played in Morgantown it is not an easy place to play it it's a noon kickoff that place will be rocking and uh you know the home field advantage for West Virginia so Penn State's going to have to really be on their aame uh in this ball game because West Virginia is a pretty solid team and you know they Neil Brown when we started the year last year he was on the hot seat they didn't know if he could keep his job they end up winning nine games finished really strong so they're in a really good place right now and I know they're anxious for this game against P State Neil Brown deserves a lot of credit uh they lose Zack Frasier who was one of the best centers in the country but they do have usually Stout offensive linemen you know that they're going to be sized up well against the Penn State so that should be a fun match up week one as we move over to Second down uh just most of the questions around a lot of the the new in the conference one of the the newer potential pieces that we'll see is an Iowa offense and this is going to start with Kirk fence now away for this first game suspended for one game to start the season because of recruiting stuff with uh their quarterback Kate mcnamer coming over from Michigan we saw mamera go down last year with the ACL he should be back through this season uh but they bring in Tim Lester as the offensive coordinator after letting Brian ference go so I guess the the question for them is what does it look like offensively because that's always the question with Iowa and we know Phil Parker we know their defense we know they're going to be consistently great on that side of the football but offensively what do they realistically need to take that next step in the conference well I again I think some big plays out of their offense you know and most of that is going to come in the passing game um you know so I'm interested to see what Tim Lester brings to the table and and hopefully all that you know all that pressure that was on them last year got to score 25 or more Brian ference doesn't keep his job that that was too much pressure on him there was too much pressure on the players so hopefully all that is out the window now and it's a clean slate and a fresh start uh for the Iowa offense uh and and so I you know I I think it I expect to see them better and they don't have to be great you know they don't have to be you know on the same level as an Ohio State offensively right and that explosive they just need to take some pressure off their defense they need to be able to sustain drives they need to be able to score some touchdowns and play complimentary football with their defense at a higher level than they've done the last couple years I mean they were still an outstanding team yeah they've got running back it's just their passing game that that has be better well I Kirk fence was trained as an offensive line coach we know their offensive line is going to be up to Snuff we know the running game is going to be up to Snuff the passing game has always been the question mark are they going to be able to have legit receiving threats they really haven't even had those the tight ends are always outstanding well and remember last year not only did they lose mamir they lost their tight end who was an outstanding player early in the year and that that just really hampered uh you know hampered their off and how they try to to operate on that side of the ball they lost a number of tight ends including Eric G who was they felt was going to be the biggest addition to their team offensively outside of mamir coming over from Michigan with them so 1,00% they they'll be retooled they'll look a little bit different but it it I think the other thing that before we move on real quick you have to remember with any of these changes and that's what we're going to bring up with these head coaches but certainly with coordinator changes and I thought we saw this with Ohio State's defense last year it generally takes a full year to get the system implemented to get everybody comfortable with it and really feel like you can go from 101 to 202 Ohio State's defense last year took that the major step forward under Jim nolles in year two it's not like they were bad year one but just think about the difference between those two yeah absolutely and I and I know we'll talk about Ohio State a little bit but I expect them to take an even bigger jump in year three for two big reasons number one I think his complexity will come out more because he's got a veteran group that a lot of those guys came back some of them that could have gone to the NFL wanted to come back to take care of business uh I think they'll pressure the quarterback better I think they'll disguise coverage better I think they'll just be more complex and they just are a very talented defensive football team they've got outstanding players on that side of the ball so uh I think the third year for Jim nolles uh for the Ohio State Defense they're going to be one of the best if not the best defense in college football all right just real quick we look at the the new head coaches in this conference in Michigan State and Indiana in particular uh Michigan state has FAU here week one Indiana has FIU week one Saturday so just the overall outlook for the season and their week one matchups for both as they take over new programs yeah very interesting and very interested to watch both of them uh because I really have great respect for both of these head coaches first of all uh Jonathan Smith you you know did a great job at Oregon State he played there he was a good player a good quarterback he was an outstanding coach there and the interesting thing and I this had to have played a little bit into the fact of of him getting hired by Michigan State but he's at Oregon State right and the best and the brightest sun in that state is Oregon right the Ducks so he's coaching at the other place and does well holds his own wins builds a program that's built on being physical and running the football and play action and did a a great job so now he goes to Michigan State and the best and the brightest school is University of Michigan right it's it's not Michigan State necessarily so he inherits the same kind of a job a little bit of a chip on their shoulder uh a lot of roster overhaul you know so we got it'll be interesting to see just kind of what their roster looks like but Aiden Charles the quarterback that he brought with him from Oregon state is legit and and confident he's used to winning you know he came from a winning program right so now he's in a new setting and he still feels like why why can't we win right so if he can pull a lot of guys up with him uh and feel that way it'll be interesting to watch and getting off to a great start in this opening game I think will be really important same thing for Indiana you know Indiana needs to get off to a great start Kurt cetti big chip on his shoulder right I mean he is a winner everywhere he's been he's been a winning coach had a great record at JMU right and had some really good players many of which he brought with him to Indiana so a a roster overhaul in Bloomington as well uh two new head coaches that have been very successful in their previous stops and so it'll be very fun to watch and and Indiana has a chance to get off to a very fast start not in this only in this first game in the first three four games of the Season they've got a chance to get off to a great start and we'll see them week three in UCLA in a battle of of new head coaches in the big 10 as well let's move on to third down uh just rapid fire fill in the blank here let's start with UNCC at Minnesota we saw how good Darius Taylor was last year I mean that dude was an absolute stud for the Gophers so Darius Taylor can be blank for the Gophers here in 2024 he can be their bcow you know I mean this is a team that is built around the running game and the running back and most teams in college football feature the quarterback this is a team that features the tailback everything kind of flows off of that Kirk saraka you know I mean his system I mean that the way they play uh it's built around the running game and so um you know they've got a new quarterback and Max brosmer who comes from the FCS level was highly decorated at that level but make no mistake Minnesota lives and dies wins or loses based on how well they run the football they will be skew Ming all the way through on the ground so they they'll make it happen for sure uh second one to move on here is Indiana State at Purdue Hudson card came over he was very much anticipated to be a guy that can help lead the charge offensively I mean Aiden oconnell was outstanding in his time at quarterback at Purdue and I think Hudson card was underwhelming to a certain degree last year in his first season but similar to what we talked about year two versus year one is a very different thing so Hudson card needs to blank in order to help Purdue Rebound in 2024 he just needs to be be a more efficient quarterback you know I mean now he's got a year under his belt okay so he has a full year of being a starter the ups and downs of that he needs to take care of the football not throw as many interceptions I think he had eight last year he did some good things he just has to do it on a more consistent basis you know put his team in favorable situations play complimentary football you know his head coach is a defensive minded guy so take care of the football don't put the defense in bad ways and and the big plays will happen but be efficient running the team so we talked about Wisconsin last year and Luke fickles thought process of kind of revamping the offense a little bit and and trying to modernize what the game looked like for Wisconsin with the new teams joining the Big 10 this year and obviously the West Coast style is a lot of spread a lot of uh West Coast offense and all of the air raid that comes with that so we saw that a little bit in Madison last year but the air rid offense will blank under Tyler Van Dyke now at quarterback in Luke fickle second season in Madison I think it'll take a big jump in in the right direction uh not just because I you know Tyler band djk I just think all these players now have two years in the system it's the second year through really when when Malachi was was was pretty healthy or morai was healthy last year they they were pretty good they were starting to get on a role then he got hurt and they had a couple receivers get nicked up then they lose running backs you know they they lost key pieces right as their offense was starting to gain some some traction so I think just having things in the second year will be better they've got to keep their guys healthy but I do expect that they'll take a step forward and I think for a quarterback like Tyler Mandy there so many transfer quarterbacks across the landscape of college football a new start a breath of fresh air for him uh it might be a little chillier air in Madison than he's used to in Miami come October and nov but I do think it's a good opportunity for him to start over uh 1,00% last one before we move over to fourth down here today Nebraska you were very high on Nebraska last year it looked like they were going to achieve your prediction of Bowl eligibility in year one under Matt rule they falter the last three weeks of the Season finish five and seven but you look at at what they've got this year they have UTEP to open the season uh they've got a lot coming back defensively they've added a lot offensively a very talented freshman starting at quarterback so Matt R Squad is capable of winning blank games this season I think at least eight I really do I think they can win eight games um and for the reasons you said I mean that's a lot of pressure to put on a freshman quarterback you know even if he's a five-star all everything you know kind of a legacy player at Nebraska but uh I say that because of their defense their defense was outstanding Tony white their coordinator you know this is the second year for his system he's got a couple horses up front maybe second only to uh you know to the guys that Michigan have in that League to kind of anchor that defense uh but this is a really good defensive football team they're very stingy they're going to keep Nebraska in every game and the biggest thing is Nebraska just has to turn the whole turnover thing the other way around last year it was their undoing probably two or three games they should have could have won if they take care of the football even if they finished even in the turnover margin in a couple games they win those games so uh that's the biggest challenge for them they can win eight games they can go to a bowl game they got to be Plus in the turnover margin when it's all said and done if the two guys at Michigan are the best two interior defensive lineman in the conference it is absolutely a worthy discussion to say Nash hot maker is number three I mean the guy was so good last year he comes back so I think they're going to be fun I'm excited to see what they look like and obviously the big game week two which will be NBC Prime Time Big 10 Saturday night Nebraska hosting Colorado in a rematch of one of the most fun back and forths from last year uh within this conference as well uh let's go to fourth down before we move on to our our kind of big finale for today other big 10 teams in action Howard at ruter Eastern Illinois at Illinois Miami Ohio at Northwestern I did find out last year they don't like to be Miami of Ohio it's Miami Ohio so I've made that really where did you find that out from from the school apparently it is uh it is just Miami Ohio they don't like of for whatever reason yeah so Miami Ohio is at Northwestern uh Yukon at Maryland UCLA at Hawaii worst places to start your season I guess uh Weber State at Washington anything in particular as we go through that list that that stands out to you no not really I I mean that all the big 10 teams should be the favorite and should you know Come Away Victorious and get their season off to a good start you know for UCLA even though they're on the west coast it's still kind of a long road trip the good news is they get a week off when they come back before they face Indiana at home so important I think for Deshawn Foster team to get off to a good start uh in their game against Hawaii that might be the most challenging of the bunch uh you know Miami Ohio plays a pretty good brand of uh of football but you know what David Brun did at Northwestern last year was nothing short of of miraculous and so that's a team in Northwestern that should be very very confident to start their season in their new uh little miniature Lakefront Stadium I guess that one is going to be played uh there at their practice field what they put erected the uh the portable stands right yeah correct how's that wind going to be how do you feel about L yeah September might be okay yeah should be okay or August 3st they should be okay November November 10th could be tough yeah that'll be interesting all right let's go to our xinity big connections here for today and we stick with our matchup which is Fresno State heading to Michigan and we mentioned interim head coach Tim Skipper well he's connected to Fresno State for quite some time former Bulldog chance to lead his Alama Moder played football there as a linebacker 97 of 2000 three-time All Conference selection he's been a coach within college football since 2001 but previously was with Fresno State from 06 to 2011 running back coach for a couple of years then defensive Run game coordinator for a couple of years his brother running back coach for the Buffalo Bills his father Jim was a longtime NFL assistant returned to Fresno State 2022 as a linebacker coach now takes over for Tedford after stepping down so what sense of Pride does a former player and a guy who's coached at a place before have to to get back and be the head coach now of the full program that's got to be awesome yeah yeah it's got to be and you could tell I mean he's pretty uh he's pretty energetic pretty effusive when he talks about the opportunity he has uh the thing I like is that the players when they've been interviewed they're thrilled for him to be the head coach they like his energy they like his juice and it it does it means more you know Jeff Tedford Fresno was very very important to him I mean he had a lot of passion for the school and the same thing is true with Skipper I mean he played there he coached there uh that's a place that has a lot of history and tradition a lot of great players have come through there and it means something one of my favorite alltime teammates that I ever played with uh was from Fresno State when we we went to Kansas City together as rookies he was a walk or a free agent wide receiver Stefon Paige who was ended up being a great NFL wide receiver but uh you know so it they've got a lot of pride in that program and and Tim Skipper kind of is the you know the centerpiece of that right now yeah obviously great athletes coming through especially in the football program recently the Carr brothers and Devonte Adams but you have Paul George NBA superstar you've got Aaron judge who might win another MVP this year is on Pace to shatter his own 63 home runs so he's going to continue doing what he's doing but Fresno State definitely has a lot of Pride uh let's just let's hit our new segment and then we want to hit our our other new segment as well but Xfinity third chair time now for some fan submitted questions presented by exfinity and the first one is going back to Michigan and this is where I mentioned we hit on them again what do you think Michigan's floor and ceiling is for 20204 as mentioned it's still a very good and talented team it's year one under Chiron more officially now as the full-time head coach he coached the four games last year but uh what do you see as the floor and the ceiling for this team well again I think that they've got a chance to have another really good season uh the two things that are the biggest you know ifs is the quarterback situation now we're anticipating we're going to see Alex orgy as the starting quarterback he's only attempted one pass in his college career he's got a strong arm but can he be consistent you know can he throw the ball in critical Downs on Third and eight third and nine can he make those kind of throws we know what kind of athlete he is we know what he can add to the running game but what about being an every down you know every series starting quarterback so there's there's a lot of question mark about what he looks like what the offense looks like how efficient they can be uh and then on top of that their schedule uh is more challenging than it was a year ago uh with the addition of those four new teams you know the the three best teams coming in arguably uh you know are Oregon USC and Washington Michigan plays all three of those the only one they don't play this year is UCLA they don't play Penn State which would have been a challenge but they play Texas right after this game you know so it's a very difficult challenge uh schedule-wise very talented team so floor and ceiling I still think they can win nine maybe 10 games uh but a lot of that's going to depend on what happens at the quarterback position so uh I know Chiron Moore was asked about the quarterbacks he's been asked a million times but yesterday in his press conference and he said that they're still working through things they're still splitting reps as they head towards the season opener but he did mention that he's seen a quarterback competition or shared because he got someone asked him about if he'd be willing to share quarterbacks essentially or or interchange quarterbacks he goes well I've seen that work before I mean we saw that with Florida with Chris leak and Tim TBO that was the first thing that he said obviously a national champion roster and they're coming off of a national championship right a little bit different a little bit different with these guys but you've got orgy and the other example I would use with Alex orgy uh would be Jaylen milro last year you know jayen milro started the season didn't necessarily look awesome the first couple weeks got benched and then they realize Ah that's right maybe this maybe this is our guy after all I'll be curious to see if orgy is their starter truly if he doesn't play exceptionally right off the bat how quickly are they willing to make a change there but that that's only time will tell I I to answer the question floor and ceiling I think their floor is still probably eight eight wins like this team's good enough to win eight games yeah the four games they would lose would be against those top top teams Texas Ohio state Washington Oregon Etc their ceiling to me is still they're talented enough and especially if orgy really or whoever is that quarterback really excels they're talented enough to win the whole thing their defense is good enough to do it but that's the absolute ceiling so anyway anyway it's week one that's a lot of wha ifs second one is who will be a big playmaker for the USC LSU game so actually I mean I think the biggest playmaker is going to be which one of those defensive cordinators gets their troops in order because again to me that is you know that is the biggest question mark for both LSU and USC is is can they play defense this year USC has to play better defense to compete in the Big 10 and LSU if they want to contend for a championship in the league uh like they have in the past they have to play a better brand of Defense both teams have new coordinators we know both teams will move the football and score and be able to make electric plays on offense but can they play defense so I I think those two new defensive coordinators being on display uh against each other in this game will be uh that'll determine the outcome of the game I love it I I think that's perfect chance for Danton Lynn to really leave his Mark right off the rip which will be fun for uh SC and Lincoln Riley and Company use hashtag big talk on social media to be featured our next week's episode if you have any questions we'll be happy to answer them real quick let's get to our final segment of the day which is the nights guard all right I want to talk about Charlotte Christian Middle School football Todd why don't you tell the people what's going on at Charlotte Christian Middle School this year yeah well uh I asked or volunt ered to help coach uh our Middle School team it's a seventh and eighth grade team combined we have 34 kids on the team um the head coach is Greg Olen who was a former NFL great tight end who's also a fox analyst for the NFL uh his dad Chris who was a longtime High School coach in New Jersey won a bunch of state championships he's the offensive coordinator Chris is uh and then Luke Keeley who's one of Chris Greg's best friends is the defensive coordinator who's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer when when that comes up and then Jonathan Stewart uh the all-time leading rusher for the Panthers and and me we're just kind of extra assistants fill in where we can uh but it's been a lot of fun so we have our first game official game we had a little um jambur last weekend and the boys played really well did some good things but now it's for real we play Holy Trinity on Thursday afternoon Holy Trinity is the feeder school for Charlotte Catholic um they have so many kids in their football program they actually have an eighth grade team and a seventh grade team that both have about 50 players each wow so we open up with the better of their two teams we open up with their eighth grade team on Thursday at 4:30 uh it's going to be about 95 degrees here in Charlotte so conditioning will come into play uh and they are a kind of an old school Wing te offense so there's a lot of deception in their run game game they don't throw it a bunch uh and so we have to be very disciplined on defense uh and and Luke's getting our guys all locked in the best he can on defending this defense so uh it'll be a lot of fun our kids have worked really hard um we've got we've got some really good players uh but this will be a challenge right out of the gate with Holy Trinity so my main question because I'm excited to hear we're going to track throughout the season I know go basically through October here but my main question heading into the season as we wrap up episode two of this season two of Big Talk do these kids understand the magnitude of this coaching staff I I don't know if they do or not I think I think they do certainly their parents do you know so I think their parents are probably telling them over dinner do do you realize that Luke Keeley is teaching you how to play linebacker right now you know so I think that's happening I think they do get it but they're they're a good group of kids they've worked really hard and it'll be fun to see uh what they put out there on Thursday well you just think even just the college football side you won a national championship did Greg win one at Miami was he part of the no he was not he was not great player at Miami obviously Keeley was one of the best defensive players of his era at Boston College I mean you just have Legends and Jonathan Stewart a fantastic former Oregon Duck yeah we we've talked about that in order classic classic big 10 yeah classic big 10 dominance from Jonathan so uh anyway we'll keep track and keep tabs of the nights throughout the season we appreciate you for joining us here on big talk with Todd and Noah we'll be back uh presented by Xfinity all season long make sure you download And subscribe on the NBC Sports YouTube channel and wherever you get your audio podcast we will talk to you soon enjoy week one everybody