Hallie Jackson NOW - June 27 | NBC News NOW

>>> WE ARE COMING ON THE AIR LIVE FROM ATLANTA WHERE THE STAGE IS SET FOR WHAT MAY BE THE MOST WATCHED MOMENT OF THIS ELECTION SEASON YET. AND WE HAVE IT COVERED FROM EVERY ANGLE AS PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS ARRIVED IN ATLANTA. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ON HIS WAY HERE FOR A MOMENT SET TO GO FACE TO FACE. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MOST NOTABLE DEBATE NIGHT MAKE OR BREAK MOMENTS. AND MORE BOMB SHELL RULINGS FROM THE SUPREME COURT. THE COURT BLOCKING A RULING AGAINST PURDUE PHARMA. >>> THEN A MYSTERY STRAIGHT OUT OF HOLLYWOOD. THE CHICAGO WOMAN NOW MISSING FROM A YOGA RETREAT IN THE BAHAMAS. >>> AND THE BAD NEWS KEEPS COMING FOR BOEING. WHAT THE NTSB SAYS THEY DID NOW. THAT'S COMING UP LATER IN THE SHOW. HEY THERE, I'M HALLIE. WE ARE COMING TO YOU LIVE FROM ATLANTA. THIS IS THE SPIN ROOM. NOT WHERE THE ACTION IS HAPPENING BUT AFTER THE 90 MINUTES YOU WILL SEE SURROGATES COMING OUT TRYING TO CONVINCE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHY THEIR CANDIDATE WILL DO A BETTER JOB. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WILL BE WATCHING FROM THIS ARENA. UP HERE, NARRATING, TALKING ANALYZING THESE CRITICAL MOMENTS HERE. THESE 90 MINUTES FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. THERE ARE KEY MOMENTS HERE. THE POLICY ISSUES AND THE POWER OF POLITICAL THEATER HERE. WILL PRESIDENT BIDEN BRING THE ENERGY THAT MANY VOTERS FEEL HE LACKS AND SHUT DOWN CLAIMS HE IS TOO OLD FOR ANOTHER TERM? WHICH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT WE SEE? THE OUT OF THE GATE BRAWLER OR MORE RESTRAINED POLICY FOCUS CANDIDATE. ONE OF HIS ALLIES TELLS ME THAT HE MAY TRY TO BE MORE DISCIPLINED. A ECONOMY GOOD ON PAPER BUT PEOPLE NOT FEELING GOODS ABOUT IT. AND PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE FORCED TO TALK ABORTION. THAT'S IN THE SPOTLIGHT FOLLOWING THE SUPREME COURT DECISION. AND HOW WILL HE RESPOND WITH HIS STATUS AS A CONVICTED FELON? AND WHO WILL EMERGE WITH THE MOMENT THAT COULD LIVE ON THROUGH ELECTION DAY AND BEYOND? WE HAVE YOUR COVERAGE. BRYAN IS HERE WITH US AND GABE GUTIERREZ AND VAUGHN HILLYARD JOINS US AS WELL. SO GENTLEMEN, HERE WE ARE. YOU CAN WATCH IT RIGHT HERE ON NBC. YOU HAVE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ON HIS WAY. TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM SOURCES ON STRATEGY. >> DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. HE HAD MOCK DEBATE PERFORMANCES. DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE HAS BEEN PREPARING HIS WHOLE LIFE FOR THIS. HE SAYS GETTING ON THE PLANE HERE TODAY, HE HAS SOME TOP SENIOR ADVISERS. FAMILY MEMBERS WITH HIM. IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER HIS WIFE IS WITH HIM OR NOT. ONE SENIOR ADVISER TELLING US HE IS RELAXED AND CONFIDENT. THEY ARE HAVING SOME BRUSHUPS BEFORE THEY GET HERE. BUT FOR DONALD TRUMP, HE SAID THAT IT IS ALL IN HIS HEAD. AND HE HAS BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS. OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS, HE HAS DONE TWO MAINSTREAM TV INTERVIEWS SO DONALD TRUMP HAS NOT HAD TO GO TOE TO TOE OR FACE MY HARD QUESTIONS. IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. >> TO BE CLEAR, A DIFFERENT STYLE OF PREP OR WHATEVER YOU ARE CALLING PREP DOESN'T MEAN ACTUALLY NO PREP AT ALL. >> THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, THEY ARE SKEPTICAL HE HAD NO PREP PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL DAYS, HE SAYS THE VIDEO OF HIM SHAKING HANDS BACK THERE. THAT IS CLASSIC BIDEN. RIGHT? HE IS SPEAKING WITH VOTERS HERE IN ATLANTA. THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS AFTER HE LANDED AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF RETAIL POLITICS THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN EXCELS AT. AND HIS CAMPAIGN FEELS IF HE DOES THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE DEBATE, HE WILL BE FIRED UPCOMING IN HERE. >> SO LET ME BRING YOU INTO THE CONVERSATION HERE. THE WAY I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS AND TALKING ABOUT THIS IS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS. IT IS THE ACTUAL ISSUE. LIKE THE ECONOMY. IMMIGRATION. ABORTION ACCESS. THE LEGAL ISSUES. BUT THEN THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THESE MOMENTS. THE POWER OF POLITICAL THEATER. AND THE RULES TONIGHT WILL MAKE THAT FEEL DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE EVER SEEN A DEBAIT GO DOWN IN MODERN HISTORY. BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THIS A CURRENT PRESIDENT VERSUS A FORMER PRESIDENT, THERE IS NO LIVE AUDIENCE. THE MICS WILL BE MUTE WHEN IT IS NOT THEIR TURN TO SPEAK. TALK TO HOW THAT PLAYS INTO WHAT THE AUDIENCE SEES WITH TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SITTING IN. >> THEY WILL BE TUNING IN. THE LAST TIME THESE TWO MEN MET, 80 MILLION VIEWERS WATCHED. WE WERE IN THE THROES OF A HORRIFIC PANDEMIC. NOW WE ARE OUT OF IT BUT THE POLITICS HAS BEEN SCRAMBLED BY THE PANDEMIC AND THESE TWO MEN ARE BACK ON STAGE. BECAUSE THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT, THIS WILL FEEL LIKE A DIFFERENT BROADCAST. NOT HAVING A STUDIO AUDIENCE WILL BE A BIG DIFFERENCE. HE PERFORMS IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT RALLIES. HE WON'T BE DOING THAT TONIGHT. CNN IS VERY INTERESTED IN HOW THE MICROPHONE SITUATION PLAYS OUT. THEY WILL MUTE THE MIC WHO IS NOT SPEAKING. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT IS HOW THAT IS GOING TO WORK. FOR ALL WE KNOW, TRUMP MIGHT TRY TO INTERRUPT BIDEN. BIDEN MIGHT BE RATTLED BY IT AND MIGHT TRY TO REACT TO TRUMP. THOUGH THERE WILL BE MICROPHONE CONTROLS WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL PLAY OUT. AND WITH THAT SAID, YOU MUTE MY MIC NOW. >> I WOULD NEVER, BRYAN! AN ADVISER SAID HEY, WE WILL BE EIGHT FEET APART FROM EACH OTHER. IT IS NOT AS IF DONALD TRUMP MAY NOT TRY TO INTERJECTOR VICE VERSA, THE TWO OF THEM WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR EACH OTHER, BUT HOW DOES THAT FEEL FOR US WATCHING? >> THERE HAS BEEN AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN CNN AND NBC. THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORP. SAYING WE NEED TO BE IN THE ROOM TO HEAR THE INTERRUPTIONS. CNN SAYS THEY ARE NOT ALLOWING OUTSIDE JOURNALISTS. CNN, THE PRODUCERS, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE INTERRUPTIONS. THEY ARE TRYING TO CREATE A FORUM WHERE WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL POLICY CONVERSATION. BUT HOW MUCH DO THESE CANDIDATES WANT TO HAVE THAT? DO THEY WANT TO FIGHT AND BICKER WITH EACH OTHER? WE'LL FIND OUT IN A FEW HOURS. >> IT'S BEEN INTERESTING. THIS IS A FACT CHECK THING. THEY KNOW DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO LIE AT EVERY SENTENCE COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH. AND PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT GOING TO BE FACT CHECKING EVERY SINGLE LINE. >> AND THAT QUESTION OF LIVE FACT CHECKING WILL COME UP TONIGHT. EARLIER IN THE WEEK, THE CNN EXECUTIVE WAS QUOTED SAYING, THEY SET UP A LOT IN THE BIDEN CAMP. THEY SAY YES, NO. IT IS THE ROLE OF THE MODERATORS TO CALL OUT LIES WHEN THEY SEE IT. NOW THAT WILL BE A MAJOR QUESTION WITH HOW THIS PLAYS OUT TONIGHT. AND WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN, YES, LIVE FACT CHECKING HIS OPPONENT. BUT THAT WILL CUT INTO THE MESSAGE HE IS TRYING TO GET ACROSS. SO HOW MUCH TIME IS HE ACTUALLY SPENDING TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT. >> AND THE ALLY OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE PREDICTED WHAT HE THINKS DONALD TRUMP WILL DO TONIGHT. I ASKED HIM. WILL HE BE MORE DISCIPLINED AND HE SAID HE WILL. THE CONGRESSMAN WAS ON THE VP SHORT LIST BUT HAS FALLEN OUT NOW. HE BELIEVES THE FORMER PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS IS WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS SO THERE IS A SOCIAL MEDIA POST EVEN THIS MORNING IN WHICH IT WAS A WAY OF FORESHADOWING THE RESPONSE FROM DONALD TRUMP. A PIVOT. HE SAID JOE BIDEN IS AGAINST WOMEN BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION AND THE BORDER RIGHT? ALMOST GIVING THE SIGNAL OF I KNOW I WILL GET THE DECISION. BUT THAT IS WHERE HE IS ALREADY SIGNALING HE WILL TRY TO USE THAT. >> I TRIED TO SNEAK A BOTTLE OF WATER OFF CAMERA. I'M EXHAUSTED FROM THE WALK AND NEEDED TO HYDRATE. THE INTERESTING PIECE TO ME ON THE OPTICS OF IT ALL IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE WATCHING. YOU PREDICTED TENS OF MILLIONS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS IT IS FASCINATING SOMETHING LIKE 16% OF AMERICANS SUGGESTED THEY COULD BE PERSUADEABLE TONIGHT. 16% DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT THIS IS AN ELECTION THAT WILL NOT BE DECIDED BY BIG NUMBERS. >> WE IMAGINE EVERYBODY HAS MADE UP THEIR MINDS ABOUT TRUMP AND BIDEN. THAT EVERYBODY MADE UP THEIR MINDS YEARS AGO. THAT'S NOT TRUE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. TRUMP HAS FADED FROM THE PUBLIC MEMORY SEVERAL YEARS. HE WAS INVISIBLE AFTER JANUARY 6th. AND BEYOND THAT, JOE BIDEN'S STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO STAY A LITTLE BIT LOW KEY COMPARED TO TRUMP AND HIS FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE. THESE CANDIDATES HAVE NOT BEEN IN OUR COLLECTIVE SPACES. IT WILL BE A TURNING POINT DIRECTION FOR THAT REASON. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE UNDECIDED. AND THAT IS SAD ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN. TENS OF MILLIONS WILL WATCH LIVE. MORE PEOPLE WILL WATCH THE CLIPS LATER. I KNOW MY WIFE WILL WAKE UP AND WATCH THE BEST FEW MINUTES. THAT'S HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL CONSUME IT. >> SHE HAS TO GET SOME SLEEP. >> GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE VIRAL MOMENTS WILL MATTER MORE THAN THEY DID FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS AGO. >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, WHAT IS METHING YOU HAVEN'T SAID ON TELEVISION YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT? >> HOW MUCH ARE FOLKS GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE FUTURE? >> ISN'T IT ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE IN THEORY? >> IN THEORY. FOUR YEARS AGO, AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE PAST. DONALD TRUMP IS EAGER TO USE FOUR YEARS OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD. AND YET, AGAIN, CRIMINAL INDICTMENT. THE CAPITAL ATTACKS HERE. THIS WILL BE A MOMENT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE 90 MINUTES HOW MUCH IS FOCUSED ON WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. >> HOW MUCH OF IT WILL BE THEATRICS. THERE IS SOME PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY PERSONAL. TALK ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN. HE HASN'T REALLY IN SOME CASES WHEN IT COMES TO HIS ADDICTION, IS IT THAT POINT PRESIDENT BIDEN COMES BACK AND FACT CHECKS? THIS COULD GET PERSONAL. IT SHOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT KIND OF FOCUSES ON THIS DEBATE ON POLICY. AND NOT SO MUCH ON THE THEATRICS. >> THERE IS NOBODY ELSE I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING WITH. SEE YOU GUYS ALL NIGHT LONG. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING ON. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK, WE WILL HAVE ALL OF IT TONIGHT. THE DEBATE HOSTED BY CNN WILL BE RIGHT HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW. OUR SIMULCAST BEGINS AT 9:00 EASTERN, 6:00 P.M. PACIFIC. DO NOT MISS IT. I WILL SEE YOU THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE ISSUE OF ABORTION ACCESS. ESPECIALLY ON THE HEELS OF THE IDAHO ABORTION DECISION BY THE SUPREME COURT. AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THOSE. NOW YOU HAVE THE JUSTICES HUNTING A CASE ON EMERGENCY ABORTIONS IN IDAHO. IF THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR, WE TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT COPY OF THE DECISION POSTED ONLINE ACCIDENTALLY YESTERDAY. THE RULING AGAIN, OFFICIALS TODAY MEANS THE PEOPLE IN IDAHO CAN GET AN ABORTION. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY STOP ANY OTHER STATE FROM PUTTING IN STATE A SIMILAR BAN. TODAY A NOT A VICTORY FOR PREGNANT PATIENT. CALLING IT A DELAY. THAT COPY ABOUT 24 HOURS AGO, HERE IT IS. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY? >> IT HAD BEEN IMPROPERLY POSTED AND SET OFF A CHAIN OF EVENTS. BUT SORT OF THE ABILITY TO DO NOTHING IN THIS CASE, AND TO PUNT ON THE ISSUE AND KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IS IN AND OUT WORTHY. THE CASE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE TAKEN TO BEGIN WITH. THE JUSTICES WENT AROUND THE NORMAL APPEALS PROCESS TO GRAB THIS CASE FROM THE LOWER COURT AND HAVE DONE THE EXACT OPPOSITE. WOMEN IN IDAHO WILL BE ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY ABORTIONS. BUT WOMEN IN OTHER STATES HAVE NO CLARITY ON THE LAW HERE. AND THAT IS WHY JUSTICE JACKSON IS WRITING A PRETTY SCATHING DISSENT HERE SAYING IN PART HOW THE COURT HAD A CHANCE TO BRING CLARITY AND CERTAINTY TO THIS TRAGIC SITUATION. PREGNANT PATIENTS WILL BE PAYING THE PRICE. WE TALKED TO DOCTORS TODAY WHO SAID LOOK, THIS IS REALLY COLD COMFORT BECAUSE THERE IS NO CERTAINTY ON WHETHER WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW WHICH SAYS YOU GIVE SOMEBODY AN EMERGENCY ABORTION OR THE BAN IN IDAHO WHO SAYS YOU DON'T GET AN ABORTION UNLESS YOU ARE ON THE VERGE OF DEATH. SO THAT DAYLIGHT BETWEEN FEDERAL AND STATE LAW IS WHERE DOCTORS AND PATIENTS ARE LEFT IN THE BIND. >> LAURA JARRETT, A LOT TO FOLLOW AND A LOT TO WATCH. >>> FOLKS ARE NOW BRIEFING FOR A SECOND ROUND OF STORMS IN THE MIDWEST SET TO HIT. LIKE RIGHT NOW. AS WE SPEAK. PEOPLE STILL PICKING UP THE PIECES AFTER A TON OF FLOODING THIS WEEK. YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 20 RIVERS IN IOWA, MINNESOTA, SOUTH DAKOTA, HITTING MAJOR FLOOD LEVELS. LOOK AT THIS. THESE ARE PRETTY INTENSE THINGS FOR THE STATES. TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE HOUSES IN THE AREA. FLOODED OUT. PEOPLE TRYING TO SAVE ANYTHING THEY CAN. TRYING TO GET IN THERE. GET THINGS OUT. SIMILAR THINGS HAPPENING OUT WEST WITH A STRONG STORM SWEEPING THROUGH IDAHO AND OREGON. A WHOLE BUNCH OF POWER OUTAGES. IT IS ALL HAPPENING AS OUT OF CONTROL WILD FIRES ARE BURNING IN OREGON, CALIFORNIA, AND NEW MEXICO. HOW ARE FOLKS GETTING READY FOR MORE RAIN? >> Reporter: YOU TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE GOING TO RESCUE WHAT THEY CAN OUT OF THEIR HOME. SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET BACK INTO THEIR HOMES YET. THERE IS NOTHING FOR THEM TO RETURN TO. YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE STRUCTURES, THE DEVASTATION HERE. THAT IS WHAT IS LEFT OF A BUILDING. SOUTH DAKOTA AFTER THE FLOOD WATERS CAME THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY. WE ARE BEEN WATCHING THE FLOOD LEVELS DROPPING. THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE CONCERNING WEATHER. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A LOW. IF YOU GET THE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF RAINFALL IN AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEALING WITH FLOODING THERE ARE CONCERNING OF FURTHER FLOODING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY THEY DO NOT NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS RECOVERY. WE SPOKE WITH A WOMAN EARLIER WHO TODAY GOT TO GET A CLOSER LOOK AT HER HOME AND HER HOME IS IN A DITCH. HERE IS PART OF MY CONVERSATION WITH MICHELLE. >> IT IS DEVASTATING. MY HOUSE IS COMPLETELY IN A SINK HOLE. >> YOU LITERALLY LEFT WITH WHAT YOU WERE WEARING. >> LITERALLY THE THE CLOTHES ON MY BACK. THAT WAS IT. I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS. I LOVE THIS AREA. I MEAN, IF I'M QUITE HONEST I DON'T KNOW WHERE I LIVE WILL EVER BE BUILDABLE AGAIN. >> SOMETHING WELLS RELOOKING INTO IS THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WE HAVE SEEN VIDEO FROM SOMEONE IN THIS COMMUNITY. IT SHOWS THE VIDEO HAVING WATER RUSHING INTO A HOME. THE FIRST CELL PHONE ALERT THAT AUTHORITIES SAY WENT OUT TO THIS AREA CAME OUT AROUND 8:21 P.M. IT IS NOT LIKE THERE IS WATER ON THE GROUND. THEY WERE NOT GETTING AN ALERT ON THEIR PHONE AS THIS WAS ALL UNFOLDING. WE REACHED OUT TO OFFICIALS ABOUT THIS. AND SO FAR, THEY TOLD US IN AN EMAIL, THAT THERE WAS WORD SPREAD BY WORD OF MOUTH ON A VOLUNTARY EVACUATION. >> JESSE KIRSCH, A LOT TO WATCH THERE. LIVE IN SIOUX CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA. THANK YOU. >>> I ALSO WANT TO BRING YOU BREAKING NEWS, A BOMB SHELL DECISION IN THAT NFL TV CASE. AN LA JURY FINDING THE LEAGUE VIOLATED ANTI-TRUST LAWS DISTRIBUTING OUT OF MARKET SUNDAY AFTERNOON GAMES ON THE SUNDAY TICKET PACKAGE. THAT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO WATCH ALL THE GAMES. NOT JUST THE ONES YOUR LOCAL NETWORK SHOWS. THE JURY IS ORDERING THE LEAGUE TO PAY MORE THAN $4.7 BILLION. THE NFL SAYS TONIGHT, IT PLANS TO CONTEST THAT DECISION. MORE ON THAT AS WE GET IT. >>> A BIG QUESTION MARK COMING OUT OF A HUGE DECISION FROM THE SUPREME COURT WITH A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR SETTLEMENT BETWEEN PURDUE PHARMA AND VICTIMS OF THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC UP IN THE YEAR. THE SUPREME COURT BLEW UP THE DEAL THAT WOULD HAVE SHIELDED THE FAMILY FROM FUTURE LAWSUITS. REMEMBER THAT FAIL ALMOST? THE ONES WHO MADE A FORTUNE THROUGH PURDUE BY AGGRESSIVELY MARKING OXYCONTIN THAT LED TO THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS. >> EVERY SINGLE DAY I CRIED. I FELT LIKE SOMEONE CAME UP AND PUNCHED ME IN THE STOMACH. IT EQUATED TO THE DAY THAT HE DIED. >> JUSTICE KAVANAUGH ECHOING A SIMILAR SENTIMENT SAYING TODAY'S DECISION IS WRONG ON THE LAW AND DEVASTATING FOR MORE THAN 100,000 OPIOID VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. DANNY CEVALLOS IS JOINING US NOW. DANNY, WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE, BEYOND THE MAKEUP OF WHERE THE JUSTICES CAME DOWN IN THIS CASE, IS NOBODY HAPPY? HOW DO YOU SEE IT? >> THE TAKE AWAY IS THIS IS A CASE WHERE JUST BECAUSE ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED WANTED A PARTICULAR OUTCOME, IT VIOLATED THE LAW THE SUPREME COURT COULDN'T GIVE THAT RELIEF. SOMETIMES THE LAW AS WRITTEN YIELDS AN OUTCOME THAT ISN'T FAIR TO THE PARTIES. IT IS BAD FOR THE SACHLERS. THEY HAD OPTED IN TO PROTECT THEMSELVES. IT IS BAD FOR THE VICTIMS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKETS TODAY IS A LOT BETTER THAN MAYBE MONEY IN THE FUTURE. AND HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE. THEY MAY LOWER THE AMOUNT THEY WERE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE. >> PURDUE PHARMA IN A STATEMENT SAID THIS RULING IS IN THEIR WORDS HEART CRUSHING BUT DOES SOMETHING TO DETER THEM FROM TURNING THE COMPANY INTO AN ENGINE FOR GOOD. THE FAMILY HAS ALSO SAID THEY ARE HOPEFUL ABOUT GETING TO A RESOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. I WANT TO PLAY PART OF A CONVERSATION ONE OF OUR PRODUCERS HAD WITH AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THOUSANDS OF VICTIMS IN THIS CASE ABOUT NEXT STEP. LISTEN. >> WE ARE GRIEVING. WE ARE UPSET. WE ARE COLLECTING OUR THOUGHTS AND WE ARE GOING TO REGROUP. BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE VICTIMS AND I ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP. >> WHAT DOES THIS DECISION MEAN NOW? WHAT RECOURSE MIGHT THEY HAVE? >> IT GOES BACK TO THE DRAWING TABLE. THEY NEED TO RENEGOTIATE AND GO BACK TO THE DECISION THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH. OR OFFERS THE PROTECTION THAT THEY WANT AFTER SETTLEMENT OF GLOBAL RESOLUTION. MAYBE IT WILL BE MORE. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. NEGOTIATIONS AND THE TIME AND THE INVESTMENT WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL COST. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >>> TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PLANE LANDING IN ATLANTA JUST AHEAD OF THE DEBATE IN ATLANTA HERE TONIGHT. WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE ON THIS COMING UP A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE SHOW. BUT FIRST, A JUDGE LAYING OUT TRIAL PLANS FOR THE MAN ACCUSED OF KILLING FOUR UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO STUDENTS NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO. WHEN THE DEFENDANT AND THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES MAY GET THEIR DAY IN COURT. >>> PLUS WHY A FREIGHT TRAIN DERAILMENT IS FORCING EVACUATIONS IN A CHICAGO SUBURB. MORE ON THAT IN A SEC. STAY WITH US HERE LIVE IN ATLANTA. >>> GOT THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE STATE DEPARTMENT TONIGHT SAYING IT IS AWARE OF REPORTS FROM A CHICAGO WOMAN DISAPPEARING ON A YOGA RETREAT IN THE BAHAMAS. THIS IS 41-YEAR-OLD TAYLOR CASEY. THE FAMILY SAYS THEY ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED FOR HER SAFETY BECAUSE SHE WOULD NEVER DISAPPEAR LIKE THIS. CASEY WAS LAST SEEN LAST WEEK, JUNE 19th ON PARADISE ISLAND. THAT IS WHERE THE YOGA RETREAT CASEY WAS ATTENDING WAS HELD. THE NEXT MORNING SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT TO CLASS. TWO DAYS LATER LOCAL OFFICIALS ISSUED A MISSING PERSONS POSTER. SAM BROCK JOINS US NOW. WHAT DO WE KNOW? >> Reporter: SO IT IS NOW, HALLIE, BEEN EIGHT DAYS THAT TAYLOR CASEY HAS GONE MISSING. SHE ARRIVED THERE IN NASSAU IN PARADISE ISLAND JUNE 19th AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION EIGHT DAYS LATER IT WAS REPORTED SHE WAS MISSING IN THE 20th. THEY REPORTED HER DISAPPEARANCE TO POLICE. THERE HAS BEEN ROUGHLY AN EIGHT DAY LONG SEARCH. THEY UNCOVERED A CELL PHONE IN THE OCEAN. ALL OF THE BELONGINGS ARE STILL BACK AT THE RETREAT. NOT MUCH ELSE FROM POLICE. THIS AS HER FAMILY HAS COME OUT AND SAID THIS IS SOMEONE THAT WENT THERE TO TRY TO GET CERTIFIED IN THE PARTICULAR PRACTICE AND BRING THAT CERTIFICATION. BRING EXPERTISE BACK TO SHARE IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY INCENTIVE FOR HER. THEY FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A SENSE OF DANGER. BECAUSE IT WAS SO ANOMALOUS WITH HER PERSONALITY. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE SHE MIGHT BE RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT IS THE TRAVEL ADVISORY SITUATION IN THE BAHAMAS? IN JANUARY IT WAS LEVEL TWO. THAT WAS NOT THE HIGHEST IT COULD GO TO. DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING? >> SO THE BIGGER PICTURE ON THIS IS THAT THE TRAVEL ADVISORIES GO FOR AN INCREASED LEVEL FOR THE BAHAMAS BACK IN JANUARY. EXERCISE INCREASE CAUTION. IT IS A FUNCTION OF THE GANG VIOLENCE. THIS IS GENERALLY GANG ON GANG VIOLENCE THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE FACING EXPOSURE TO THAT KIND OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. SO THERE IS ELEVATED RISK. BUT NO REASON TO BELIEVE WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAS WORRIED ABOUT IS APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE. >> SAM BROCK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STAYING ON TOP OF THIS ONE. >>> LET'S GET YOU TO THE FIVE THINGS OUR TEAM THINKS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT. PEOPLE IN ONE CHICAGO SUBURB ALLOWED TO GO BACK HOME AFTER A TRAIN DERAILMENT LED TO MANDATORY EVACUATIONS. LIQUEFIED GAS NOT MUCH, BUT A LITTLE BIT LEAKED FROM ONE OF THE CARS THAT IS NOW CONTAINED. THERE IS NO THREAT TO THE PUBLIC. INVESTIGATORS ARE LOOKING INTO WHAT CAUSED THIS DERAILMENT. >>> NUMBER TWO, A JUDGE SAYS THE TRIAL OF THE MAN ACCUSED OF MURDERING FOUR UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO STUDENTS STARTS NEXT JUNE. REMEMBER THEY WERE KILLED IN THEIR OFF CAMPUS HOUSE NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO. BRYAN KOHBERGER PLEADED NOT GUILTY. THE TRIAL IS SET TO LAST ABOUT THREE MONTHS. >>> THE BOLIVIAN GOVERNMENT ARRESTING A TOP GENERAL IN A FAILED COUP EVENT. A NEW ARMY COMMANDER ORDERED THE TROOPS TO STAND DOWN. THAT ATTEMPTED COUP LASTED THREE HOURS. 15 OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED SO FAR AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS INVESTIGATING. >>> NFL WIDE RECEIVER RANDALL COBB SAYS HE AND HIS FAMILY ARE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AFTER A FIRE IN THEIR HOUSE IN NASHVILLE. HIS WIFE SAID IT WAS THEIR TESLA'S CAR CHARGER THAT CAUGHT FIRE IN THE GARAGE AND SPREAD TO THE REST OF THE HOUSE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE DAMAGE. COBB THINKING FIREFIGHTERS AND SAYING HE DOESN'T KNOW IF ANYTHING FROM THE HOUSE WILL BE ABLE TO BE SALVAGED. THE CEO OF WALGREENS TELLING CNBC THE CONSUMERS ARE IN HIS WORDS STUNNED ABOUT HOW MUCH STUFF COSTS THESE DAYS AND THE CLOSURES AND SOME OTHER COST CUTTING MOVES WILL HAPPEN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. >>> MORE TROUBLE TONIGHT WITH BOEING, THE AIRLINER NOW BEING SANCTIONED. THIS IS A RARE MOVE BY REGULATORS OVER THIS ALASKA AIRLINES DOOR PLUG BLOWOUT. BOEING GAVE OUT DETAILS IN THE INVESTIGATION THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE. AND SPECULATED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE. ALL OF IT COMING AS THE WHISTLE BLOWER FACES NEW ALLEGATIONS TOM COSTELLO JOINS US NOW. ALL OF THIS POPPED UP SUPER EARLY. WHAT IS UP WITH THE SANCTIONS, WHAT IS UP WITH THE CONSEQUENCES FOR BOEING NOW? >> HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED. ALL OF THOSE COVERING AVIATION WERE INVITED TO HEADQUARTERS. WE HAD A HIGHLY CHOREOGRAPHED TOUR ON TUESDAY. WE WERE TOLD WE HAD TO EMBARGO IT. CAN'T REPORT THE CONTENT UNTIL TODAY. WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT IS WHAT IS BOEING'S PLAN TO TURN THINGS AROUND? THE SAFETY AND QUALITY CONTROL HAS TAKEN A HIT. WHILE I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS, THE TOP EXECUTIVE DETAILED OUT HOW THAT WENT THROUGH THE ASSEMBLY LINE WITH A DOOR PLUG THAT WASN'T BOLTED IN. AND SHE DETAILED OUT THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW THAT MADE IT THROUGH WITHOUT THE CRITICAL PAPERWORK. WE KNEW THAT ALREADY. BUT IN VIEW OF THE NTSB, THAT WAS A FLAGRANT VIOLATION OF THE RULES GOVERNING AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. PARTY TO THE INVESTIGATION CANNOT TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR FINDINGS ARE. THAT IS UP TO THE NTSB. THEY SLAPPED BOEING HARD. SANCTIONING BOEING. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PLAYER INS THE AVIATION GAME. AND THEY ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HEAR WHAT IS THE INVESTIGATORS HAVE LEARNED ABOUT WHY THIS HAPPENED. WHAT THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION HAS COME UP WITH. AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO QUESTION ANYBODY ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION. BOEING RELEASED A STATEMENT. WE REGRET SOME OF OUR COMMENTS INTENDED TO MAKE CLEAR OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE ACCIDENT AND EXPLAIN THE ACTIONS THAT WE OVERSTEPPED THE NTSB'S ROLE. SO THAT IS IT. THEY HAVE NOW BEEN VIRTUALLY LOCKED OUT OF THE INVESTIGATION. THEY ARE THE CRITICAL PARTY. >> NOW THERE IS THIS WHISTLEBLOWER. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE COMPANY IS SAYING? >> THAT'S RIGHT. A WHISTLE BLOWER SAYS HE IS AWARE, HE BELIEVES A SUB STANDARD CONSTRUCTION OR FABRICATION ON THE 787. NOW LISTEN. BOEING SAYS WE LOOKED INTO IT. WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING. ISSUES IN THE FORWARD PRESSURE BULKHEAD ALONG WITH THE FUSELAGE. ONE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURES OF THE AIRCRAFT COULD HAVE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES. THAT IS WHAT THE WHISTLE BLOWER SAID. BOEING SAID WE LOOKED INTO THIS. WE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE. THIS WHISTLE BLOWER SAID IF HE WAS FIRED FOR RAISING THOSE CONCERNS. WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF WHISTLE BLOWERS COMING FORWARD. SOME OF THEM WITH THE SAME ATTORNEYS COMING FORWARD AND RAISING CONCERNS, RAISING ISSUES. AND BOEING SAYS IN ALMOST EVERY CASE, IT HAS LOOKED INTO THESE INSTANCES. SOMETIMES IT SAID YOU'RE RIGHT. WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS. WE NEED TO FIX THIS. SOMETIMES BOEING SAYS THIS IS REALLY WITHOUT MERIT. >> WE ARE SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU. >>> MORE TONIGHT TO COME. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS ALREADY NOR TOWN BUT AT FIRST, DRAMATIC NEW BODY CAM VIDEO SHOWING THE CHAOS AFTER A DEADLY BOAT CRASH. VIDEO OF A HUGE SINK HOLE. SWALLOWING UP PART OF A SOCCER FIELD. WATCH THIS. READY? THERE IT GOES. WE'LL TELL YOU HOW OFFICIALS THINK THIS CRAZY DISASTER HAPPENED. APP NOW. NEWS FOR THE GENERATION OF NOW IS NBC NEWS NOW. >>> YOU ARE LOOKING NOW AT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PLANE ARRIVING IN ATLANTA AHEAD OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE. FOR THE TWO CANDIDATES, HE AND PRESIDENT BIDEN AS PRESIDENT BIDEN IS ALREADY IN TOWN. YOU SAW VIDEO OF HIM SHAKING HANDS WITH FOLKS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. THE HOPE IS VOTERS WILL LISTEN TO THEIR PLANS OF THE FUTURE. THE REALITY, TONIGHT'S DEBATE MAY BE REMEMBERED FOR THE MOST TIKTOK WORTHY MOMENTS. WHAT MAKES US SAY THAT? DECADES OF PRECEDENT. IN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES, PLENTY OF POLICY. >> MY PLAN SAYS IT WILL REQUIRE A NEW APPROACH IN WASHINGTON DC. >> Reporter: THE TOUTING OF TRACK RECORDS, THE CRITICIZING OF COMPETITORS BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY CAN BE A DEMONSTRATION OF THE POWER OF POLITICAL THEATER. >> ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? >> LIKE THIS ONE LINER FROM PRESIDENT REAGAN IN 1984 WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS AGE. >> YOU ARE ALREADY THE OLDEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. I WILL NOT MAKE AGE AN ISSUE OF THIS CAMPAIGN. I AM NOT GOING TO EXPLOIT FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES MY OPPONENT'S YOUTH AND AND INEXPERIENCE. >> Reporter: WALTER WOULD SAY THAT MOMENT FELT LIKE THE END OF MY CAMPAIGN. SOMETIMES, A SLIP OF THE TONGUE CATCHES FIRE LIKE WHEN PRESIDENT FORD MADE THIS BAFFLING CLAIM ABOUT THE RUSSIANS. >> THERE IS NO SOVIET DOMINATION OF EASTERN EUROPE AND THERE NEVER WILL BE UNDER A FORD ADMINISTRATION. >> DID YOU JUST SAY? >> Reporter: THE MOMENT STICKING WITH VOTERS AND WITH FORD WHO LOST THAT ELECTION TO JIMMY CARTER SAYING YEARS LATER THERE IS NO QUESTION I DID NOT ADEQUATELY EXPLAIN WHAT I WAS THINKING. WHAT ENDS UP IN THE HEADLINES ISN'T ALWAYS WHAT THE CANDIDATES MIGHT WANT. >> ALL THE APPLICANTS SEEM TO BE MEN. I WANT TO A NUMBER OF WOMEN'S GROUPS AND SAID CAN YOU FIND US. >> Reporter: BARACK OBAMA TAKING THAT ON THE TRAIL THROUGH ELECTION DAY. AND EVEN WITHOUT WORDS, BODY LANGUAGE CAN SAY A LOT ON A DEBATE STAGE. JUST LOOK AT THE FIRST EVER TELEVISED DEBATE IN 1960. A YOUTHFUL JOHN F. KENNEDY UP AGAINST RICHARD NIXON JUST OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AFTER AN ILLNESS. A VISIBLE CONTRAST. IN 1992, PRESIDENT BUSH WAS SEEN CHECKING HIS WATCH THE MOMENT BECOMING INFAMOUS AS DID A SLIGHTLY MORE AUDIBLE INTERJECTION. AL GORE'S LOUD SIGHING IN 2000. THEN THIS MOMENT IN 2016 WHEN DONALD TRUMP LOOMED OVER HILLARY CLINTON AS SHE ANSWERED A QUESTION. CLINTON LATER WRITEING IN HER MEMOIR, SHE WISHED SHE HAD TOLD MR. TRUMP BACK UP YOU CREEP. GET AWAY FROM ME. ALL OF IT LEADING TO TONIGHT'S DEBATE. HISTORIC, AND IF PAST IS PRECEDENT. >> WILL YOU SHUT UP, MAN? >> STAND BACK AND STANDBY. >> Reporter: THE MOST MEMORABLE MOMENTS MAY BE UNPREDICTABLE. AND WE'LL HAVE WHAT THE MOST MEMORABLE MOMENTS ARE RIGHT HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW. FOR ALL OF YOUR POST DEBATE COVERAGE. WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. NBC NEWS ALSO COVERS HUNDREDS OF OTHER STORIES EVERY DAY. AND BECAUSE IT CAN BE TOUGH TO READ OR WATCH OR LISTEN TO THEM ALL, OUR BUREAU TEAMS HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU. THIS IS WHAT THEY TELL US IS GOING DOWN IN THEIR REGION INS A SEGMENT WE CALL THE LOCAL. OUT OF OUR SOUTHERN BUREAU, THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS TELLING PUBLIC SCHOOLTEACHERS THEY HAVE TO TEACH THE BIBLE IN CLASSROOMS. IN A MEMO TODAY, THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT CALLED IT AN INDISPENSABLE HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL TOUCH STONE. THIS MOVE COMES A WEEK AFTER LOUISIANA BECAME THE FIRST STATE TO REQUIRE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS DISPLAY THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ON A POSTER SIZED PIECE OF PAPER. >>> CHECK OUT THIS MOMENT THIS MASSIVE SINK HOLE OPENED UPRIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A SOCCER FIELD IN ILLINOIS. LOOK AT THAT. SWALLOWS UP THAT LIGHT POLE RIGHT THERE. BUT NOBODY WAS ON THE FIELD. IT WAS CAUSED BY A MINE COLLAPSING DEEP UNDER GROUND. A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE MINE SAYS IT IS OFF LIMITS. NOBODY WAS HURT. >>> OUT OF OUR NORTHEAST BUREAU, TRUCK DRIVER CRASHED A TRACTOR TRAILER IN A HOUSE IN NEW JERSEY. THE DRIVER HAD SOME KIND OF A MEDICAL EPISODE SO HE LOST CONTROL. YOU CAN SEE THE DAMAGE THERE. PRETTY SEVERE. AMAZINGLY NOBODY INSIDE THE HOUSE WAS HURT. >>> STUNNING REVELATIONS AT A MICHIGAN COURTROOM. AND A WARNING. SOME OF WHAT YOU ABOUT TO SEE IS GRAPHIC. A JUDGE RULING THE 66-YEAR-OLD WOMAN YOU ARE SEEING HERE WILL FACE SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES ACCUSED OF KILLING TWO YOUNG SIBLINGS AND HURTING' DOZEN OTHERS SINCE SHE ALLEGEDLY DRUNKENLY PLOWED HER CAR INTO A THREE-YEAR-OLD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY. BODY CAM VIDEO SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED AND BRAND NEW KEY EVIDENCE IN COURT. HER BLOOD ALCOHOL CONTENT AT THE TIME OF THE CRASH ACCORDING TO POLICE .18. MORE THAN TWICE THE LEGAL LIMIT. THE COURT ENTERED A NOT GUILTY PLEA ON HER BEHALF BACK IN APRIL. MAGGIE VESPA HAS COVERED THIS CASE FROM THE BEGINNING AND JOINS US NOW WITH MORE AND THE REVELATION ABOUT THE BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL SIGNIFICANT HEREMENT EXPLAIN THAT. BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY WASN'T DRUNK SHE SAYS. HELP US TO UNDERSTAND. >> THIS IS THE POINT OF THIS HEARING TODAY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES WERE APPROPRIATE. BECAUSE HER TEAM ARGUED THAT ESSENTIALLY, SHE WASN'T DRUNK WHEN SHE DROVE THROUGH THE CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY. INSTEAD, THEY SAID SHE HAD A SEIZURE BEHIND THE WHEEL. AND HAD NO WAY OF CONTROLLING WHAT WAS GOING ON. WE'LL DIVE INTO THAT. THE EMOTIONS IN THE ROOM WERE SO PALPABLE. 66-YEAR-OLD MARCHELLA CHITISTER IS THE NAME OF THE DEFENDANT. WHEN WE COVERED THIS IN APRIL, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE HER NAME. NOW WE KNOW WHO THIS IS. AND HER TEAM SAYS SHE HAS A HISTORY OF SEIZURES AND DESPITE THE BLOOD ALCOHOL CONTENT, THEY SAID THAT IS WHAT CAUSED THIS. THEIR ARGUMENT IS THEY WERE PARSING WHETHER OR NOT THE BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL SAMPLE WAS STORED PROPERLY. COULD IT HAVE FERMENTED FURTHER AFTER BEING GATHERED. PROSECUTION SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOT. THEY SAY EVERYBODY WAS HANDLED PER PROTOCOL. BUT WHAT WAS KEY IN ADDITION TO THAT REVELATION WAS THIS INTERVIEW RECORDED WITH HER IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CRASH. ALSO ON BODY CAMERA. YOU SEE POLICE ASKING HER IF SHE REMEMBERS WHAT HAPPENED. CHECK THIS OUT. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? >> BOTH SIDES HAVING THEIR ARGUMENT. FIRST SHE TALKS ABOUT HER SEIZURE SAYING SHE HAS A HISTORY OF THEM. BUT CLEARED TO DRIVE. THEN THE PROSECUTION SAYING YOU ARE SEVEN OUT OF TEN WHEN IT COMES TO BEING INTOXICATED. WE WILL SEE THAT PLAY OUT IN COURT. THE JUDGE AGREED THAT SECOND DEGREE MURDER GIVEN ALL THE EVIDENCE WAS THE APPROPRIATE CHARGE TO MOVE FORWARD ON. SHE IS SET TO BE ARRAIGNED NEXT MONTH. WE EXPECT HER TO ENTER A PLEA ON HER OWN BEHALF. >> MAGGIE VESPA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REPORTING. >>> WE ARE LIVE IN ATLANTA TONIGHT WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE DAY. BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT. PERSONAL FINANCE IS PERSONAL. >> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >>> TONIGHT'S ORIGINAL NOW, WITH IN-DEPTH REPORTING ON A TOPIC WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING. TONIGHT, IT IS PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP EXPECTED TO FACE OFF ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF ISSUES IN TONIGHT'S DEBATE INCLUDING ON FOREIGN POLICY. THE WARS IN EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST DRAGGING ON. TENSION WITHS IRAN FRONT AND CENTER AND A BIG ELECTION IN IRAN. THE CANDIDATES ARE HAND PICKED BY THE SUPREME LEADER'S COUNCIL. SO WILL VOTE THERES SPUR ANY CHANGE? >> Reporter: TOMORROW, IRANIANS WILL HEAD TO THE POLLS TO CAST THE NEXT BALLOT AFTER THE LAST PRESIDENT DIED IN A MAY HELICOPTER CRASH. >> IRAN STATE TV HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THE COUNTRY'S PRESIDENT WAS KILLED IN A HELICOPTER CRASH. >> Reporter: HE CRASHED NEAR THE IRAN BORDER IN FOGGY CONDITIONS. ACCORDING TO THE COUNTRY'S CONSTITUTION, A NEW PRESIDENT WILL BE ELECTED WITHIN 50 DAYS OF HIS DEATH. >> THESE ELECTIONS COULD PROVE TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A LITMUS TEST IN TERMS OF WHERE POWER IS GOING TO GO NEXT. >> Reporter: BUT IRAN'S ELECTIONS HAVE NEVER BEEN VIEWED AS EITHER FAIR OR FREE BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. ALL THE CANDIDATES ARE CHOSEN BY THE SUPREME COUNCIL. A CONSERVATIVE BODY WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO UPHOLD ISLAMIC REPUBLIC. >> ONLY A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF REGIME LOYALISTS ARE ALLOWED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN IRAN. >> Reporter: ONLY ONE IS CONSIDERED MORE QUOTE MODERATE. >> HE IS ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO SAY TO PEOPLE YOUR PROBLEMS MAY BE TEN OUT OF TEN NOW. IF I WIN, I CAN TRY TO MAKE THEM A NINE OR AN EIGHT. NO ONE IS PROPOSING MEANINGFUL REFORM. >> Reporter: SOME IRANIANS HAVE BEEN ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THEIR GOVERNMENT. A WOMAN WAS ARRESTED FOR ALLEGEDLY NOT WEARING THE COUNTRY'S MANDATORY HEAD SCARF TO THE AUTHORITY'S LIKING. IN RESPONSE, PROTESTS ERUPTED AROUND THE WORLD. >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THINGS IS THE PARTICIPATION OF THE MEN. THEY REALIZE THEIR FREEDOM IS TIED TO GENDER. >> A RENEWED CRACKDOWN NBC CANNOT INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRM THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THEIR INTERACTION. >> YOU ARE LIVING WITHIN A SOCIETY THAT ECONOMICALLY IS DROWNING. A BROKEN SYSTEM. THE YOUTH EMPOWERED BY SOCIAL MEDIA. >> Reporter: THIS ELECTION MAY BE MORE CONSEQUENTIAL THAN OTHERS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE IT. >> SO IT IS A CRITICAL LOOK AT THE ISSUE OVERSEAS. BRING IT BACK TO WHAT IT MEANS FOR PEOPLE HERE IN THE U.S. AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR U.S. POLICY IF YOU WILL, MOVING FORWARD. >> Reporter: NATIONAL SECURITY. LET'S THINK BACK TO THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL. THAT WAS NEGOTIATED BACK IN 2015 UNDER THEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND A MORE MODERATE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME IN IRAN. PRESIDENT RAHIMI. WE NOW UNDER FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, HE BROKE AWAY FROM THE JCPOA SAYING IT DID NOT MAKE AMERICA SAFER. IT DEPENDS ON WHICH SIDE OF THE AISLE YOU ARE ON WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUCLEAR DEAL. THE QUESTION IS WHO WINS TOMORROW WHEN IRANIANS GO AND CAST HEIR BALLOTS. IT IS THE MORE MODERATE GUY WHO. COMES TO THE TABLE TO RENEGOTIATE THAT NUCLEAR DEAL. OPEN UP ECONOMIC TIES BUT WE ARE ALSO IN THIS ISRAEL HAMAS WAR. WHO IS FUNDING HAMAS? IRAN IS. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT NATIONAL SECURITY HERE AT HOME. BUT IT DEPENDS NOT ONLY THEIR ELECTION NOW BUT THE ELECTION HAPPENING HERE. CURRENT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. >> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> STILL TO COME, WHY SOME EXPERTS SAY YOU HAVE A LOT YOU MAY NEED TO DO. WE ARE GETTING INTO FROM CANCER. >> JOSH, THANK YOU. LET'S STAY OVERSEAS NOW. NOW FAR FROM LONDON, TAYLOR SWIFT IS GETTING READY TO BRING HER MASSIVE ERAS TOUR TO LONDON. FOUR-AND-A-HALF MILLION TICKETS SOLD JUST LAST YEAR. MORE THAN 150 SHOWS. $1.4BILLION TO DATE. HER FANS FOLLOW, THE CITY SEES A BOOST. AND IT IS HAPPENING. APPARENTLY, IN PLACES ALL OVER THE WORLD. YOU HAD LEADERS IN PLACES LIKE BUDAPEST AND CHILE TRYING TO GET HER TO TOUR THERE. NOW, SOME ECONOMISTS ARE PUMPING THE BRAKES A BIT. THEY'RE LIKE WELL MAYBE IT IS NOT WHAT WE THOUGHT IT ACTUALLY WAS. WELL, LOOK AT STOCKHOLM. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF TOURISTS HEADED THERE TO SEE HER THREE SHOWS IN MAY. BRINGING IN $81 MILLION FOR THE CITY. THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S A TON OF MONEY FOR THREE DAYS BUT IT IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR SWEDEN. IS THIS A HATERS GOING TO HATE HATE HATE SITUATION? >> I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE. >> IT'S A LYRIC. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS INVESTMENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF FANS SPENDING A LOT OF BIG BUCKS ON THESE TOURS ALL OVER THE WORLD PUN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TICKET PRICES WERE INDEED UP DURING HER TRAVEL THERE. DURING MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. UP 25%. ALTHOUGH THAT IS ALSO MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. I WANT TO POINT OUT. THESE ARE STAGGERING STATISTICS. BUT AS YOU POINT OUT, IT IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO THE LARGE ECONOMIES. BECAUSE AMERICANS MIGHT BE TRAVELING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND SPENDING IT, THEY ARE SPENDING IT AT A LARGE CORPORATION, GUESS WHAT? IT IS NOT DIRECT INVESTMENT INTO THE SINGLE COUNTRY. SO AT THE RISK OF ANGERING SOME OF THESE FANS, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY SWIFT FANS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TAYLOR SWIFT THAT'S DRIVING OF THE IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THESE COUNTRIES, BUT IT DOES UNDERSCORE THE BROAD STRENGTH OF CONSUMERS AROUND THE WORLD. BRIAN CHEUNG, ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOUREALITY CHECK. >>> THAT DOES IT FOR US THIS HOUR, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE COVERAGE FROM HERE IN ATLANTA PICKING UP RIGHT NOW. >>> WE ARE COMING ON THE AIR LIVE FROM ATLANTA NOW WHERE THE STAGE AND THE SPIN ROOM IS SET FOR WHAT MAY BE THE MOST WATCHED MOMENT OF THIS ELECTION SEASON YET. WE'VE GOT IT COVERED FROM EVERY ANGLE AS PRESIDENT BIDEN ARRIVED IN ATLANTA. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ON HIS WAY HERE SET TO GO FACE TO FACE BUT NOT EYE TO EYE WITH SHARP POLICY DIFFERENCES ON THE ISSUES AMERICANS CARE ABOUT LIKE IMMIGRATION, ABORTION, THE ECONOMY. THEN IN OUR BREAKDOWN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF HISTORY'S MOST NOTABLE DEBATE NIGHT MAKE OR BREAK VIRAL MOMENTS. >>> ALSO TONIGHT, MORE BOMBSHELL RULINGS, THE COURT BLOCKING A RULING AGAINST PURDUE PHARMA THAT COULD THREATEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR VICTIMS. >>> THE MYSTERY STRAIGHT OUT OF HOLLYWOOD, THE CHICAGO WOMAN MISSING FROM A YOGA RETREAT IN THE BAHAMAS. >>> AND LATER IN THE SHOW WHAT THE NTSB SAID BOEING DID. >>> THIS IS THE SPIN ROOM, NOT WHERE THE ACTION HAPPENS. THAT'S FURTHER AWAY ON THE DEBATE STAGE ITSELF. THIS IS WHERE AFTER THOSE CRITICAL 90 MINUTES YOU WILL SEE SURROGATES TRYING TO CONVINCE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA AND PUBLIC WHY THEIR CANDIDATE DID A BETTER JOB, WHY THEY SHOULD END UP IN THE WHITE HOUSE. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WILL WATCH FROM THIS ARENA UP HERE NARRATING, TALKING AND ANALYZING THESE CRITICAL MOMENTS HERE, THESE 90 MINUTES FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. SOME REALLY KEY MOMENTS HERE AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. FIRST, THE POLICY ISSUES AND POWER OF POLITICAL THEATER, WILL PRESIDENT BIDEN BRING THE ENERGY MANY VOTERS FEEL HE LACKS AND SHUT DOWN CLAIMS HE'S TOO OLD FOR ANOTHER TERM? WHICH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL WE SEE? ONE OF HIS ALLIES TELL ME HE MAY TRY TO BE MORE DISCIPLINED. PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL HAVE TOUGH QUESTIONS TO ANSWER ON THE TWO ISSUES VOTERS CARE A LOT ABOUT, AN ECONOMY THAT LOOKS GOOD ON PEOPLE, BUT PEOPLE AREN'T FEELING GREAT AND THE IMMIGRATION CRISIS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL LIKELY BE FORCED TO TALK ABORTION BACK IN THE SPOTLIGHT TODAY FOLLOWING THE SUPREME COURT DECISION EARLIER AND HOW WILL HE RESPOND WHEN HIS STATUS AS A CONVICTED FELON IS BROUGHT UP? MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHO WILL EMERGE WITH MAYBE THE TWEETABLE INSTAGRAMABLE MOMENT THAT COULD LIVE ON? WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TEAM COVERAGE HERE. BRIAN STELTZER IS WITH US AND VAUGHN HILLYARD AS WELL. HERE WE ARE IN THE SPIN ROOM. WE KNOW PRESIDENT BIDEN IS HERE. HE DID SOME HANDSHAKING. YOU CAN WATCH IT HERE ON NBC AT 9:00 EASTERN. YOU'VE GOT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ON HIS WAY, VAUGHN. TALK TO US WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM SOURCES ON STRATEGIES. >> THERE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. HE HAD MOCK DEBATE PERFORMANCES WHICH HE HAD SOMEBODY DO A STAND-IN WHERE THEY WENT BACK AND FORTH OVER QUESTIONS. STELTERGETTING ON THAT PLANE TODAY HE'S GOT TOP SENIOR ADVISERS, FAMILY MEMBERS. IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER MELANIA IS WITH HIM, BUT ONE SENIOR ADVISER SAYING HE'S BRUSHED UP AND CONFIDENT. FOR DONALD TRUMP HE SAID IT'S ALL IN HIS HEAD AND HE'S PREPARED FOR THIS. OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS, DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE PART IN ANY OF THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY DEBATES. DONALD TRUMP HAS NOT HAD TO GO TOE TO TOE OR FACE MANY HARD QUESTIONS. >> TO BE CLEAR HERE, A DIFFERENT STYLE OF PREP DOESN'T MEAN ANY PREP AT ALL. >> THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, VAUGHN, THEY'RE SKEPTICAL HE HAD NO PREP. THEY'RE SAYING LOOK, HE HASN'T HAD A CAMPAIGN EVENT SINCE THE WEEKEND, BUT THEY BELIEVE HE HAS BEEN PREPPING WITH HIS ADVISERS. HALLIE, PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL DAYS AT CAMP DAVID BEING MORE TRADITIONAL. HE WANTS TO COME IN HERE, PREPARE. YOU MENTIONED THE VIDEO OF HIM SHAKING HANDS THERE AND THAT IS CLASSIC BIDEN. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> HE'S SPEAKING WITH VOTERS IN ATLANTA. THIS IS A COUPLE HOURS AFTER HE LANDED AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF RETAIL POLITICKING PRESIDENT BIDEN EXCELS AT. HIS CAMPAIGN FEELS IF HE DOES THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE DEBATE, COULD BE FIRED UP COMING IN HERE TRYING TO GET HIS MESSAGE ACROSS. >> BRIAN, THE WAY I'VE BEEN THINKING AND TALKING ABOUT THIS IS IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT BUCKETS AND YOU KNOW I LOVE THE BUCKET, BUT IT'S THE POLICY PIECE, THE ISSUES, LIKE THE ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION, ABORTION ACCESS, THE LEGAL ISSUES MR. TRUMP FACES, BUT THEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT AND THAT IS THE POWER OF POLITICAL THEATER IN SO MANY WAYS AND THE RULES TONIGHT WILL MAKE THAT FEEL DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN A DEBATE GO DOWN IN MODERN HISTORY BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THIS A CURRENT PRESIDENT VERSUS A FORMER PRESIDENT, THERE'S NO LIVE AUDIENCES. MICS WILL BE MUTED UNLESS IT'S THEIR TURN TO SPEAK. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO TALK TO STAFFERS DURING BREAK. TALK US THROUGH INTO HOW THAT COULD PLAY INTO WHAT THE AUDIENCE AT HOME SEES MAYBE WITH TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TUNING IN. >> THE LAST TIME THESE TWO MEN MET, 70, 80 MILLION VIEWERS WATCHED. WE WERE IN THE THROES OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT NOW WE'RE OUT OF IT AND OUR POLITICS SCRAMBLED BY THE PANDEMIC AND BACK WITH THESE TWO MEN ON STAGE. NOT HAVING A STUDIO AUDIENCE WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. DONALD TRUMP USUALLY PERFORMS IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT RALLIES. I'VE TALKED WITH EXECUTIVES OF CNN. THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN HOW THIS MICROPHONE SITUATION PLAYS OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MUTE THE MICS WHEN THE CANDIDATES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK. FOR ALL WE KNOW, TRUMP MIGHT TRY TO INTERRUPT BIDEN. BIDEN MIGHT BE RATTLED BY IT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT WITH. THAT SAID, YOU CAN MUTE MY MIC NOW, HALLIE. >> I WOULD NEVER. I SPOKE WITH CEDRIC RICHMOND HAD, AN ADVISER OF PRESIDENT BIDEN, AND HE'S LIKE HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BE EIGHT FEET APART. IT'S NOT AS THOUGH DONALD TRUMP MAY NOT TRY TO INTERJECT IF HE CHOOSES OR VICE VERSA. THE TWO OF THEM WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR FOR EACH OTHER. THE QUESTION IS HOW DOES THAT FEEL FOR SOMEBODY WATCHING WHETHER YOU AT HOME OR US IN THE SPIN ROOM? >> THERE'S BEEN AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN CNN, NBC AND THE OTHER NETWORKS, THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS SAYING WE NEED TO BE IN THE ROOM TO SEE AND HEAR IT. CNN IS SAYING NO, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING OUTSIDE AGENCIES. THE PRODUCERS ARE TRYING TO CREATE A FORUM WHERE WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL POLICY CONVERSATION. DO THESE TWO CANDIDATES REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUBSTANCE OR FIGHT AND BICKER? WE'LL FIND OUT IN A FEW HOURS. >> WHAT'S BEEN INTERESTING IS THE FACT CHECKING. CEDRIC SAID TO ME DONALD TRUMP HE SAYS WILL LIE IN EVERY SENTENCE OUT OF HIS MOUTH IS WHAT HE SAID AND PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT GOING TO BE FACT CHECKING EVERY SINGLE LINE. >> THAT QUESTION OF LIVE FACT CHECKING WILL COME UP BECAUSE DURING THE WEEK A CNN EXECUTIVE WAS QUOTED AS SAYING IS IT'S NOT REALLY THE MODERATORS ROLE TO LIVE FACT CHECK. THAT SET UP A LOT OF ALARM BELLS IN THE BIDEN CAMP. THEY SAY YES, IT IS THE ROLE OF THE MODERATORS TO CALL OUT LIES WHEN THEY SEE IT. THAT WILL BE A MAJOR QUESTION BRIAN WAS SAYING HOW THIS PLAYS OUT TONIGHT AND WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN LIVE CHECKING HIS OPPONENT, BUT THAT MAY CUT INTO HIS MESSAGE. HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE SPEND FACT CHECKING? HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE SPEND TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT AND THE POLICY PROPOSALS? >> I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH AN ALLY OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HE PREDICTED WHAT HE THINKS DONALD TRUMP WILL DO TONIGHT. I ASKED HIM WILL BE HE MORE DISCIPLINED? HE SAID HE WILL. HE'S CLOSE TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT, WAS ON THE VICE PRESIDENT SHORT LIST. WE THINK HE'S PROBABLY FALLEN OFF RIGHT NOW. HE SUGGESTED HE BELIEVES THE FORMER PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS MOMENT IS AND WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. LOOK BACK AT 2020, THE FIRST DEBATE 100 PLUS INTERRUPTIONS, THE SECOND DEBATE FAR FEWER. >> EVER SINCE DONALD TRUMP LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE, FOUR CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS, ROE V. WADE OVERTURNED. WE KNOW A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. THERE'S A SOCIAL MEDIA POST THIS MORNING WHICH WAS ALMOST FORESHADOWING A POTENTIAL RESPONSE FROM DONALD TRUMP TODAY. >> A PIVOT. >> HE TRIED TO TURN SOMETHING ON ITS HEAD. HE SAID JOE BIDEN IS AGAINST WOMEN BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION AND THE BORDER, RIGHT? ALMOST GIVING A SIGNAL I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET INTO OCTOBER, THE DOBBS DECISION AND WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, BUT THAT'S WHERE HE'S SIGNALING HE'LL TRY TO USE THAT KNOWN HE HAS THOSE VULNERABILITIES ON THE LINE TONIGHT. >> I TRIED TO SNEAK A BOTTLE OF WATER OFF CAMERA. I'M SORRY. I GOT BUSTED. I'M EXHAUSTED FROM THIS WALK THROUGH THIS GIGANTIC ROOM. THE INTERESTING THING TO ME IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WATCHING. YOU PREDICTED TENS OF MILLIONS. THAT SEEMS RIGHT BASED ON PAST PRECEDENT. THE POLL IS FASCINATING TO ME SOMETHING LIKE 16% OF AMERICANS SUGGESTED THEY COULD BE PERSUADABLE TONIGHT DEPENDING HOW THESE DEBATE PERFORMANCES GO. THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT THIS IS AN ELECTION THAT WILL NOT BE DECIDED BY BIG NUMBERS. IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT. >> WE IMAGINE EVERYBODY HAS MADE UP THEIR MINDS YEARS AGO. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON. TRUMP HAS FADED FROM THE PUBLIC MEMORY FOR SEVERAL YEARS. HE WAS BASICALLY INVISIBLE AFTER JANUARY 6th AND BEYOND THAT JOE BIDEN'S STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO STAY LOW KEY COMPARED TO TRUMP'S FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE. THESE CANDIDATES HAVE NOT BEEN IN OUR COLLECTIVE SPACES, AT LEAST NOT UNTIL TONIGHT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT, A TURNING POINT DIRECTION FOR THAT REASON. WE'LL SEE I THINK MAYBE A LOT MORE PEOPLE UNDECIDED OR FLEXIBLE THAN WE MIGHT REALIZE. THAT STAT ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN, YES, TENS OF MILLIONS WILL WATCH LIVE AND EVEN MORE WILL WATCH LATER. MY WIFE WILL WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND WATCH THE BEST FEW MINUTES. THOSE VIRAL MOMENTS WILL MATTER A LOT MORE THAN FOUR OR EIGHT YEARS AGO. >> SUPER INTERESTING POINT, THANK YOU. BEFORE I LET YOU GO, WHAT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVEN'T SAID ON TELEVISION YET YOU THINK FOLKS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT AT HOME? >> HOW MUCH ARE FOLKS ACTUALLY GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE FUTURE? >> ISN'T IT ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE? >> IN THEORY, BUT FOUR YEARS AGO IT WAS AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE PAST AND THE ROLES ARE REVERSED THIS TIME. I THINK DONALD TRUMP IS EAGER TO USE FOUR YEARS OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD TO HIS ADVANTAGE HERE AND YET FOUR CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS, JANUARY 6th CAPITOL ATTACKS. THAT DEBATE HAPPENED BEFORE. I THINK THIS 90 MINUTES, HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT A SECOND TRUMP OR BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WILL LOOK LIKE? >> FOR ME, HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE POLICY? HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE THEATRICS? AND HOW PERSONAL WILL IT GET? TALK ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN. WHAT HAPPENS IF DONALD TRUMP GOES AFTER PRESIDENT BIDEN'S SON? HE HASN'T REALLY IN SOME CASES WHEN IT COMES TO HIS ADDICTION, WHAT IF HE GOES INTO HIS FOREIGN BUSINESS DEALINGS AND DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE? IS IT AT THAT POINT PRESIDENT BIDEN COMES BACK AND FACT CHECKS? HOW IS IT HE THINKS ABOUT HIS SON ON STAGE IN FRONT OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE? THIS COULD GET PERSONAL. IT SHOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT KIND OF FOCUSES THIS DEBATE REALLY ON POLICY AND NOT SO MUCH ON THE THEATRICS AND ALSO WHETHER THEY SHAKE HANDS AT THE BEGINNING. >> THAT WILL BE LIKE MINUTE TWO, THE TONE. NOBODY I'D RATHER BE WATCHING IT WITH. I'LL SEE YOU ALL NIGHT LONG. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF IT TONIGHT. THE DEBATE HOSTED BY CNN WILL BE HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." WE'RE SIMULCASTING. OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE ON THE NETWORKS BEGINS AT 9:00 EASTERN, 6:00 PACIFIC. DO NOT MISS IT. I'LL SEE YOU THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL SOME UP ALMOST CERTAINLY IN THE DEBATE IS ABORTION ACCESS ESPECIALLY ON THE HEELS OF THE DECISION BY THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED CARE. TODAY YOU HAVE THE JUSTICES OFFICIALLY PUNTING THE CASE ON EMERGENCY ABORTIONS IN IDAHO. IF THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR, THAT'S BECAUSE ON THIS SHOW 24 HOURS AGO WE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE COPY OF THE DECISION POSTED ONLINE ACCIDENTALLY YESTERDAY. THE RULING OFFICIAL TODAY MEANS PEOPLE IN IDAHO CAN GET AN ABORTION IF THEIR HEALTH IS AT SERIOUS RISK. THAT IS AT LEAST A TEMPORARY DECISION. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY STOP ANY OTHER STATE FROM PUTTING IN PLACE A SIMILAR BAN. THIS IS PARTLY WHY TODAY IS NOT A VICTORY FOR PATIENTS, INSTEAD A DELAY. LAURA, GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS CASE SINCE IT WAS ACCIDENTALLY POSTED, THAT COPY ABOUT 24 HOURS AGO, BUT NOW HERE IT IS, THE REALITY, THE LAW IN THE LAND AT LEAST IN IDAHO. WHERE DO WE GO NEXT? >> ONE OF YOUR PRODUCERS FLAGGED TO ME IT HAD BEEN IMPROPERLY POSTED AND SET ON OFF A CHAIN OF EVENTS, HALLIE. THE AUTHORITY TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DO NOTHING IS IT NOTEWORTHY. THE CASE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE TAKEN. THE JUSTICES WENT AROUND THE NORMAL APPEALS PROCESS TO GRAB IN CASE FROM THE LOWER COURTS AND NOW HAVE DONE THE EXACT OPPOSITE BY TAKING IT BACK TO THE LOWER COURTS. THE UPSHOT IS WOMEN IN IDAHO WILL BE ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY ABORTIONS, BUT WOMEN IN OTHER STATES HAVE NO CLARITY ON THE LAW. THAT'S WHY JUSTICE JACKSON IS WRITING A PRETTY SCATHING DISSENT SAYING IN PART THE COURT HAD A CHANCE TO BRING CLARITY AND CERTAINTY TO THIS TRAGIC SITUATION. SHE ADDS AS LONG AS WE REFUSE TO DECLARE WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES, PREGNANT PATIENTS IN IDAHO, TEXAS, AND ELSEWHERE WILL BE PAYING THE PRICE. WE TALKED TO DOCTORS TODAY WHO SAID LOOK, THIS IS REALLY COLD COMFORT BECAUSE THERE'S STILL NO CERTAINTY ON WHETHER WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW WHICH SAYS YOU GIVE SOMEONE AN EMERGENCY ABORTION, OR THE BAN IN IDAHO WHICH SAYS YOU DON'T GET AN ABORTION UNLESS YOU'RE ON THE VERGE OF DEATH. SO THAT DAYLIGHT BETWEEN FEDERAL AND STATE LAW IS WHERE DOCTORS AND PATIENTS ARE LEFT IN THE BIND. >> LAURA JARRETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT BREAK DOWN. >>> FOLKS ARE BRACING FOR A SECOND ROUND OF STORMS SENT TO HIT AS WE SPEAK. PEOPLE ARE STILL PICKING UP THE PIECES AFTER A TON OF FLOODING THIS WEEK. YOU'VE GOT INTEREST LIKE 20 RIVERS IN IOWA, SOUTH DAKOTA HITTING MAJOR FLOOD LEVELS. THESE ARE PRETTY INTENSE SCENES AND WITH MORE RAIN IT WON'T TAKE MUCH FOR SOME OF THESE HARDEST HIT RIVERS TO SPILL OVER THEIR BANKS. LOOK AT SOME OF THE HOUSES FLOODED OUT, PEOPLE TRYING TO SAVE ANYTHING THEY CAN, TRYING TO GET THINGS OUT. SIMILAR SCENES ARE HAPPENING OUT WEST WITH A STRONG STORM SWEEPING THROUGH OREGON AND IDAHO. THIS IS HAPPENING AS OUT OF CONTROL WILDFIRES ARE STILL BURNING IN OREGON, CALIFORNIA, NEW MEXICO. JESSE KIRSCH IS JOINING US NOW. HE'S MADE HIS WAY TO SOUTH DAKOTA AND IS LIVE FOR US TONIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING THERE AND HOW ARE FOLKS GETTING READY FOR YET MORE RAIN, EXACTLY THE THING THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE? >> Reporter: YOU TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE GOING TO RESCUE WHAT THEY CAN OUT OF THEIR HOMES. SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET BACK IN THEIR HOMES AND OTHERS TELL US THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO RETURN TO. YOU SEE BEHIND ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE DEVASTATION. THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT OF A BUILDING CRUMBLING AND FALLING INTO CAVED IN GRASS AND MUD WHICH IS NOW PART OF THE AREA SWEPT AWAY HERE IN NORTH SIOUX CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA, AFTER FLOODWATERS CAME THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY. WE'VE WATCHED THE FLOOD LEVELS DROPPING, INCLUDING IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT THERE'S THE POSSIBLE FOR MORE CONCERNING WEATHER. RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A LITTLE LULL. WE'VE HAD ON AGAIN, OFF AGAIN TRICKLES OF RAINFALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY, MOSTLY A DRIZZLE, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS. IF YOU GET SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF RAINFALL IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH FLOODING, THERE'S CONCERN OF FURTHER FLOODING. THAT IS SOMETHING THEY DO NOT NEED. WE SPOKE WITH A WOMAN EARLIER WHO TODAY GOT A CLOSER LOOK AT HER HOME SHE SAYS AND HER HOME IS IN A DITCH. HERE'S PART OF MY CONVERSATION WITH MICHELLE LEWAN. >> IT'S DEVASTATING. MY HOUSE IS COMPLETELY IN A SINKHOLE. >> Reporter: YOU LITERALLY LEFT WITH WHAT YOU WERE WEARING AND YOUR DOG. >> MY CLOTHES ON MY BACK, WALLET AND CELL PHONE. THAT WAS IT. I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS. I LOVE THIS AREA, BUT I MEAN IF I'M QUITE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I LIVE WILL EVER BE BUILDABLE AGAIN. >> Reporter: HALLIE, AS WE KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR WEATHER AHEAD, SOMETHING ELSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO HERE IS THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WE'VE SEEN VIDEO FROM SOMEONE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT THEY SHARED WITH US. THE TIMESTAMP SHOWS THE VIDEO HAVING WATER RUSHING INTO A HOME AROUND 7:41 P.M. THE FIRST CELL PHONE ALERT THAT AUTHORITIES SAY WENT OUT TO THIS AREA CAME OUT AROUND 8:21 P.M., ABOUT 40 MINUTES DIFFERENCE. AT THAT POINT THERE WAS WATER GUSHING INTO THIS HOME. IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE THERE WAS WATER ON THE GROUND. WATER GUSHING INTO THE HOME. WE SPOKE WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY WERE NOT GETTING AN ALERT AS THIS WAS UNHOLDING. OFFICIALS TOLD US IN AN E-MAIL THERE WAS WORD SPREAD BY WORD OF MOUTH ABOUT A VOLUNTARY EVACUATION, BUT AGAIN, THOSE ALERTS DID NOT GO OUT TO PHONES BROADLY IN THIS AREA FOR QUITE SOME TIME IT SEEMS. >> JESSE KIRSCH LIVE FOR US IN NORTH SIOUX CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA. THANK YOU. >>> WANT TO BRING YOU BREAKING NEWS FROM A FEW MINUTES AGO, A BOMBSHELL DIVISION IN THAT NFL TV CASE WITH AN L.A. JURY FINDING THE LEAGUE VIOLATED ANTITRUST LAWS WITH DISTRIBUTING SOME OF THE OUT OF MARKET SUNDAY AFTERNOON GAMES ON THE SUNDAY TICKET PACKETS, THE ONES WHERE YOU PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO WATCH ALL OF THE GAMES. THE JURY IS ORDERING THE LEAGUE TO PAY MORE THAN $4.7 BILLION. THE NFL SAYS IT PLANS TO CONTEST THE DECISION, MORE ON THAT AS WE GET IT. >>> A BIG QUESTION MARK FROM ANOTHER HUGE DECISION FROM THE SUPREME COURT WITH A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR ETTLEMENT BETWEEN PURDUE PHARMA AND VICTIMS OF THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC UP IN THE AIR BECAUSE THE COURT BASICALLY BLEW UP THE DEAL THAT WOULD HAVE SENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TREATMENT PROGRAMS AND WOULD HAVE SHIELDED THE SACKLER FAMILY. THEY AGGRESSIVELY MARKETED OXYCONTIN, THE PAINKILLER THAT FUELED THE OPIOID CRISIS LEADING TO THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, LIKE SCOTT DUBROWSKI WHO DIED AFTER TAKING A PILL THAT CONTAINED FENTANYL. >> EVERY DAY I CRIED. IT KIND OF EQUATED TO THE DAY THAT HE DIED. >> JUSTICE KAVANAUGH ECHOING A SIMILAR SENTIMENT RIGHTING IN A DISSENT THAT TODAY'S DECISION IS WRONG ON THE LAW AND DEVASTATING TO THE MORE THAN 100,000 OPIOID VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. DANNY CEVALLOS JOINS US NOW. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WHAT CAME DOWN WITH THIS CASE, DOES NOBODY END UP HAPPENING? THE SACKLERS MAY LOSE THEIR LIABILITY CAP? VICTIMS MAY HAVE TO GET BACK INTO SETTLEMENT TALKS HERE. HOW DO YOU SEE IT. >> THIS IS A CASE WHERE ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED WANTED A PARTICULAR OUTCOME, IT VIOLATED THE LAW, THE SUPREME COURT GIVE THAT RELIEF. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE. SOMETIMES THE OUTCOME ISN'T FAIR TO THE PARTIES OR NOT FAIR IN THEIR MIND BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANTED. IT'S BAD FOR THE SACKLERS. IT'S BAD FOR THE VICTIMS BECAUSE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKETS TODAY IS A LOT BETTER THAN MAYBE MONEY IN THE FUTURE AND GOING BACK TO NEGOTIATIONS AND THE POSSIBILITY THE SACKLERS MAY NOT FEEL AS PROTECTED MAY LOWER THE AMOUNT THEY'RE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE. >> PURDUE PHARMA IN A STATEMENT SAYS THIS RULING IS HEART CRUSHING BUT DOES NOTHING TO DETER THE COMPANY FROM TURNING INTO AN ENGINE FOR GOOD. THE SACKLER WANT TO GET A RESOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. I WANT TO PLAY PART OF A VIDEO ABOUT NEXT STEPS. LISTEN. >> TODAY WE'RE GRIEVING. WE'RE UPSET. WE'RE COLLECTING OUR THOUGHT. WE'RE GOING TO REGROUP. I CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE VICTIMS AND I AREN'T GOING TO GIVE UP. >> WHAT DOES THIS DECISION MEAN NOW FOR THESE VICTIMS? WHAT ARE THOSE NEXT STEPS? WHAT RESOURCE MIGHT THEY HAVE? >> THE SAYING GOES BACK TO THE DRAWING PEOPLE. THEY'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO RENEGOTIATE AND ARRIVE AT A DECISION AMONG THEMSELVES THAT EVERYONE PARTICIPATES IN THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH AND THAT OFFERS THE PROTECTION THAT THE SACKLERS WANT AFTER SETTLEMENT, GLOBE ALVAREZ POLLUTION SETTLEMENT GLOBAL RESOLUTION SETTLEMENT. >>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PLANE LANDING IN ATLANTA. WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE ON THIS COMING UP LATER IN THE SHOW. >>> BUT FIRST A JUDGE LAYING OUT TRIAL PLANS FOR THE MAN ACCUSED OF KILLING FOUR UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO STUDENTS NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN THE DEFENDANT AND VICTIMS' FAMILIES MAY GET THEIR DAY IN COURT. >>> PLUS WHY A FREIGHT TRAIN DERAILMENT FORCING EVACUATIONS IN A CHICAGO SUBURB, MORE ON THAT IN >> THE STATE DEPARTMENTG IT'S AWARE OF REPORTS OF A CHICAGO WOMAN WHO DISAPPEARED IN A YOGA RETREAT IN THE BAHAMAS. AUTHORITIES WORKING TO FIND 41 YEAR-OLD TAYLOR CASEY. SOMEBODY WHO SAYS THEY ARE A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE FAMILY SAYS THEY ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED FOR THEIR SAFETY BECAUSE THEY SAY SHE WOULD NEVER DISAPPEAR LIKE THIS. CASEY WAS SEEN JUNE 19th ON PARADISE ISLAND, WHERE THE YOGA RETREAT WAS AT. THE FAMILY SAYS THE NEXT MORNING SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT TO CLASS. TWO DAYS LATER LOCAL OFFICIALS ISSUED A MISSING PERSONS PICTURE. SAM BROCK IS JOINING US NOW. WHAT ELSE DO WE KNOW? >> IT'S BEEN EIGHT DAYS. SHE ARRIVED IN NASA ON PARADISE ISLAND JUNE 19th. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITUATION EIGHT DAYS LATER WHERE IT WAS REPORTED SHE WAS MISSING ON THE 20th. THIS IS THE SIVANANDA ASHRAM YOGA REPEAT. THEY REPORTED HER DISAPPEARANCE TO THE POLICE. THERE HAS BEEN ROUGHLY AN EIGHT LONG SEARCH. THEY RECOVERED A CELL PHONE IN THE OCEAN, THIS AS HER FAMILY SAID THIS IS SOMEONE THAT WENT THERE TO TRY TO GET CERTIFIED IN THE PARTICULAR PRACTICES AND BRING HER EXPERTISE BACK TO SHARE IT WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN CHICAGO. OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY INCENTIVE FOR HER TO GO OFF THE GRID. SHE REALLY CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS, ONLY THAT THEY FEEL THERE'S A SENSE OF DANGER HERE BECAUSE IT'S SO ANOMALOUS WITH HER PERSONALITY AND WE STILL DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE WHERE SHE MIGHT BE RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT IS THE TRAVEL ADVISORY SITUATION FOR THE BAHAMAS? IN JANUARY I THINK IT WAS A LEVEL TWO ADVISORY. THAT IS NOT THE HIGHEST IT CAN GO TO. DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT? >> THE BIGGER PICTURE IS THE TRAVEL ADVISORIES GO FROM ONE THROUGH FOUR. IN JANUARY THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A LEVEL TWO, INCREASED CAUTION, A FUNCTION OF SOME OF THE GANG VIOLENCE AND FIREARM VIOLENCE GOING ON ON THE ISLAND. SPECIFICALLY THEY SAID IT'S BEEN GANG-ON-GANG VIOLENCE ELEVATED THE HOMICIDE RATE. TYPICALLY IT'S THE LOCAL POPULATION THAT'S AFFECTED, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES OF BURGLARIES AND ARMED ROBBERIES THAT HAVE EXPANDED TO TOURIST AND NONTOURIST PARTS OF THE ISLAND, BUT YOU WOULDN'T THINK SOMEONE GOING ON A YOGA RETREAT WOULD BE FACING EXPOSURE TO THAT SORT OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. SO YES, THERE'S ELEVATED RISK, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAS WORRIED ABOUT WAS APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE OF A MISSING AMERICAN FROM CHICAGO. >>> LET'S GET YOU TO THE FIVE THINGS OUR TEAM THINKS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TONIGHT. NUMBER ONE, PEOPLE IN ONE CHICAGO SUBURB NOW ALLOWED TO GO HOME AFTER A TRAIN DERAILMENT LED TO MANDATORY EVACUATIONS. OFFICIALS SAY LIQUEFIED GAS, A LITTLE BIT, LEAKED FROM A CAR. IT'S NOW CONTAINED AND THERE'S NO THREAT TO THE PUBLIC. INVESTIGATORS ARE LOOKING INTO THE CAUSE OF THE DERAILMENT. >>> A JUDGE SAYS THE TRIAL FOR THE MAN ACCUSED OF MURDERING FOUR UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO STUDENTS WILL START NEXT JUNE. THE VICTIMS WERE KILLED IN THEIR OFF-CAMPUS HOUSE NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO. BRYAN KOHBERGER PLEADED NOT GUILTY. >>> THE BOLIVIAN GOVERNMENT ARRESTING A TOP GENERAL IN THAT FAILED COUP ATTEMPT YESTERDAY. THEY TRIED TO STORM THE PRESIDENTIAL PALACE TRYING TO RESTORE DEMOCRACY THEY CALLED IT BEFORE A NEW ARMY COMMANDER ORDERED THE TROOPS TO STAND DOWN. THE COUP LASTED ABOUT THREE OTHERS. 15 OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS INVESTIGATING. >>> NFL WIDE RECEIVER RANDALL COBBS SAID HE AND HIS FAMILY ARE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AFTER A FIRE AT THEIR HOME. IT WAS THEIR FAMILY'S CAR CHARGER THAT CAUGHT FIRE IN THE GARAGE AND SPREAD TO THE REST OF THE HOUSE. COBBS THANKED FIREFIGHTERS AND SAID HE DOESN'T KNOW IF ANYTHING FROM THE HOUSE WILL BE SALVAGED. >>> WALGREENS FINALIZING PLANS TO CLOSE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STORES THAT ARE UNDERPERFORMING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE CEO TELLS CNBC CONSUMERS ARE IN HIS WORDS STUNNED BY HOW MUCH STUFF COSTS THESE DAYS AND THE CLOSURES AND SOME OTHER COST CUTTING MOVES WILL HAPPEN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. >>> MORE TROUBLE TONIGHT FROM BOEING, THE AIRLINER NOW SANCTIONED. THIS IS A REALLY RARE MOVE BY REGULATORS OVER THIS ALASKA AIRLINES DOOR PLUG BLOWOUT. THE NTSB SAID BOEING GAVE OUT DETAILS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT HADN'T BEEN CLEAR AND ALL OF IT AS THERE'S A NEW WHISTLEBLOWER ABOUT TROUBLE ON THE ASSEMBLY LINE. TOM COSTELLO JOINS US NOW. THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TURN OF EVENTS AND ALL OF IT POPPED OFF SUPER EARLY THIS MORNING, TOM. WHAT IS UP WITH THE SANCTION AND THE CONSEQUENCES FOR BOEING NOW? >> Reporter: HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. ALL OF US WHO COVER AVIATION WERE INVITED TO BOEING HEADQUARTERS. WE HAD A FULL DAY MEDIA TOUR, VERY HIGHLY CHOREOGRAPHED. THAT WAS ON TUESDAY AND WE WERE TOLD WE HAVE TO EMBARGO IT. YOU CANNOT REPORT THE CONTENTS TILL TODAY. WHAT IT WAS ABOUT IS WHAT IS BOEING'S PLAN TO TURN THINGS AROUND, TO GET ON THEIR FEET AND IMPROVE THAT SAFETY AND QUALITY CONTROL THAT REALLY HAS KIND OF TAKEN A HIT? WHILE THEY WERE DOING A NEWS CONFERENCE WITH US, I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS, THE TOP EXECUTIVE DETAILED OUT HOW THAT MAX 9 WENT THROUGH THE ASSEMBLY 9 WITH A DOOR PLUG THAT WASN'T BOLTED IN. SHE DETAILED OUT THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW THAT MADE IT THROUGH WITHOUT CRITICAL PAPERWORK. WE KIND OF KNEW THAT ALREADY. THAT WASN'T NEWS, BUT IN THE VIEW OF THE NTSB THAT WAS A FLAGRANT VIOLATION OF THE RULES GOVERNING AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. PARTIES TO THE INVESTIGATION CANNOT TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR FINDINGS ARE. THAT'S UP TO THE NTSB. SO THE NTSB EARLY THIS MORNING SLAPPED BOEING HARD, REALLY IN A VERY RARE MOVE SANCTIONING BOEING, ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT PLAYERS IN THE ENTIRE AVIATION GAME, AND THEY NOW ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HEAR WHAT THE INVESTIGATORS HAVE LEARNED ABOUT WHY THIS HAPPENED, WHAT THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION HAS COME OUT WITH THE NTSB AND THEY AREN'T ABLE TO QUESTION ANYBODY ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION. BOEING RELEASED A STATEMENT. "WE DEEPLY REGRET SOME OF OUR COMMENTS INTENDED TO MAKE CLEAR OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE ACCIDENT AND EXPLAIN THE ACTIONS THAT WE OVERSTEPPED THE NTSB'S RULE AS THE SOURCE OF INVESTIGATIVE INFORMATION." SO THAT'S IT. BY THAT LITTLE TINY MISSPEAK OR OVERSTEP, THEY'VE NOW BEEN VIRTUALLY LOCKED OUT OF THE INVESTIGATION AND, OF COURSE, THEY ARE THE CRITICAL PARTY. >> TOM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE CAN'T TALK ENOUGH ABOUT BOEING. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ON ALMOST EVERY DAY WITH A NEW UPDATE AND NOW THERE'S THIS WHISTLEBLOWER, A SPIRIT AEROSYSTEMS SUBCONTRACTOR. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE COMPANY SAYS? >> Reporter: THIS IS A SUBCONTRACTOR. IT'S NOT BOEING. A WHISTLEBLOWER HAS COME FORWARD TO THE FAA AND SAYS HE IS AWARE OF HE BELIEVES SUBSTANDARD CONSTRUCTION OR FABRICATION OR MANUFACTURING ON THE 787. LISTEN. BOEING SAYS WE LOOKED INTO IT. WE DON'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING. ISSUES ON THE FORWARD PRESSURE BULK HEAD ALONG WITH THE FUSELAGE. THEY SAY ONE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURES OF THE AIRCRAFT COULD HAVE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES IS WHAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER SAYS. BOEING SAYS WE LOOKED INTO THIS. WE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE. WE THINK WE'VE SOLVED IT AND SPIRIT SAYS IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS, THEY CAN COME FORWARD WITHOUT THEIR RETRIBUTION, BUT THIS WHISTLEBLOWER SAYS HE WAS FIRED FOR RAISING THOSE CONCERNS, FIRED FROM THE SUBCONTRACTOR, NOT FROM BOEING. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'VE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF WHISTLEBLOWERS COMING FORWARD, SOME OF THEM WITH THE SAME ATTORNEYS COMING FORWARD AND RAISING CONCERNS, RAISING ISSUES, AND BOEING SAYS IN ALMOST EVERY CASE IT'S LOOKED INTO THESE INSTANCES. SOMETIMES SAID IT YOU'RE RIGHT. WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS AND FIX THIS. SOMETIMES BOEING SAYS THIS IS REALLY WITHOUT MERIT. >> TOM COSTELLO, SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU SIFTING THROUGH ALL OF THIS WITH YOUR EXPERTISE AND REPORTING. THANK YOU. >>> MORE TO COME, INCLUDING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOW IN ATLANTA FOR TONIGHT'S DEBATE. THIS IS HIS PLANE, MORE ON THIS WHEN WE GET BACK. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS ALREADY IN TOWN. >>> BUT FIRST CHAOS AFTER A DEADLY BOAT CRASH, THE EVIDENCE SHOWN IN COURT TODAY. >>> PLUS VIDEO OF A HUGE SINKHOLE SWALLOWING UP PART OF A SOCCER FIELD. WATCH IT. READY. HERE IT GOES. WE'LL TELL YOU HOW PARTS SPARKLING. >> IT'S SPARKLING. IT'S HAPPENING. >>> YOU ARE LOOKING AT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PLANE ARRIVING IN ATLANTA AHEAD OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE. FOR THE TWO CANDIDATES, BOTH HE AND PRESIDENT BIDEN, AS PRESIDENT BIDEN IS ALREADY IN TOWN. YOU SAW VIDEO OF HIM SHAKING HANDS WITH FOLKS EARLIER. THE HOPE IS VOTERS WILL LISTEN TO THEIR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE, TO THEIR POLITICAL AGENDAS, THEIR TRACK RECORD, BUT THE REALITY, TONIGHT'S DEBATE MAY BE REMEMBERED MORE FOR ONE OR TWO TIKTOK MOMENTS. WE'RE BREAKING IT DOWN FOR YOU. CHECK IT OUT. IN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES PLENTY OF POLICY -- >> MY PLAN ALSO SAYS IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A NEW APPROACH IN WASHINGTON, D.C. >> -- THE TOUTING OF TRACK RECORDS, THE CRITICIZING OF COMPETITORS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY CAN BE A DEMONSTRATION OF THE POWER OF POLITICAL THEATER. >> ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? >> LIKE THIS ONE LINER FROM PRESIDENT REAGAN BACK IN 1984 WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS AGE. >> YOU ALREADY ARE THE OLDEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. I WILL NOT MAKE AGE AN ISSUE OF THIS CAMPAIGN. I AM NOT GOING TO EXPLOIT FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES MY OPPONENT'S YOUTH AND INEXPERIENCE. >> WALTER MONDALE WOULD LATER SAY THAT MOMENT FELT LIKE THE END OF MY CAMPAIGN, IN HIS WORDS. SOMETIMES AN APPARENT SLIP OF THE TONGUE CATCHES FIRE LIKE WHEN PRESIDENT FORD AT THE HEIGHT OF THE COLD WAR IN 1976 MADE THIS BAFFLING CLAIM ABOUT THE RUSSIANS. >> THERE IS NO SOVIET DOMINATION OF EASTERN EUROPE AND THERE NEVER WILL BE UNDER A FORD ADMINISTRATION. >> I'M SORRY. DID I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY, SIR -- >> THE MOMENT STICKING WITH VOTERS AND WITH FORD WHO LOST THE ELECTION TO JIMMY CARTER SAYING YEARS LATER, "THERE'S NO QUESTION I DID NOT ADEQUATELY EXPLAIN WHAT I WAS THINKING." WHAT ENDS UP IN THE HEADLINES ISN'T ALWAYS WHAT THE CANDIDATES MIGHT WANT. >> ALL THE APPLICANTS SEEM TO BE MEN. I WENT TO A NUMBER OF WOMEN'S FOLKS AND ASKED CAN YOU FIND FOLKS AND THEY BROUGHT US A WHOLE BINDER FULL OF WOMEN. >> BARACK OBAMA TAKING THAT THROUGH ELECTION WORDS. BODY LANGUAGE CAN SAY A LOT. LOOK AT THE FIRST EVER TELEVISED DEBATE IN 1960, A YOUTHFUL JOHN F. KENNEDY UP AGAINST RICHARD NIXON JUST OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AFTER AN ILLNESS. IN 1992 PRESIDENT BUSH WAS SEEN CHECKING HIS WATCH, THE MOMENT BECOMING INFAMOUS, AS DID A SLIGHTLY MORE AUDIBL INTERJECTION, AL GORE'S LOUD SIGHING IN 2000 IN. 2016 DONALD TRUMP LOOMED OVER HILLARY CLINTON AS SHE ANSWERED A QUESTION, CLINTON LATER WRITING IN HER MEMOIR, SHE WISHED SHE TOLD MR. TRUMP, "BACK UP, YOU CREEP. GET AWAY FROM ME," ALL OF IT BEFORE TONIGHT'S DEBATE AND IF PAST IS PRECEDENT. >> STAND BACK AND STAND BY. >> ITS MOST MEMORABLE MOMENTS MAY BE UNPREDICTABLE. WE WILL HAVE WHATEVER THOSE MOST MEMORABLE MOMENTS WERE RIGHT HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW" FOR ALL OF YOUR POST DEBATE COVERAGE. WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. >>> NBC NEWS COVERS HUNDREDS OF OTHER STORIES EVERY DAY AND BECAUSE IT CAN BE TOUGH TO READ, WATCH OR LISTEN TO THEM ALL, THIS IS WHAT OUR BUREAU TEAMS TELL US IS GOING DOWN IN THEIR REGIONS IN THE LOCAL. IN OUR SOUTHERN BUREAU THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS TELLING SCHOOL TEACHERS THEY'VE GOT TO TEACH THE BIBLE. IN A MEMO THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT CALLED IT AN INDISPENSABLE HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL TOUCHSTONE, DIRECT QUOTE. THIS MOVE COMES ABOUT A WEEK AFTER LOUISIANA BECAME THE FIRST STATE TO REQUIRE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS DISPLAY THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ON A POSTER-SIZED PIECE OF PAPER IN EASILY READABLE FONT IN SCHOOLS. >>> IN OUR MIDWEST BUREAU CHECK OUT THIS MASSIVE SINKHOLE THAT OPENED UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A SOCCER FIELD IN ILLINOIS, SWALLOWS UP THAT LIGHT POLE. FORTUNATELY, NOBODY WAS ON THE FIELD. THAT'S A HUGE GAP, 100 FEET WIDE, 30 FEET DEEP. THE LOCAL PARKS DIRECTOR IS TELLING NBC NEWS IT WAS CAUSED BY A MINE COLLAPSING DEEP UNDERGROUND. A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE MINE SAYS THE WHOLE PLACE IS NOW SECURED, OFF LIMITS. FORTUNATELY, NOBODY WAS HURT. >>> IN OUR NORTHEAST BUREAU A TRUCK DRIVER CRASHED A TRACTOR TRAILER IN NEW JERSEY. THE DRIVER HAD A MEDICAL EPISODE AND LOST CONTROL. YOU CAN SEE THE DAMAGE IS PRETTY SEVERE. AMAZINGLY, NOBODY WAS HURT IN THE HOUSE. >>> STUNNING REVELATIONS IN A MICHIGAN COURTROOM AND A WARNING, SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE IS GRAPHIC, A JUDGE RULING THIS 66-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WILL FACE SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES, ACCUSED OF KILLING TWO YOUNG SIBLINGS AND HURTING A DOZEN OTHERS WHEN SHE ALLEGEDLY DRUNKENLY PLOWED HER CAR INTO A 3-YEAR-OLD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY. NEW BODY CAMERA VIDEO FROM THE SCENE SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED MOMENTS AFTER THE CRASH, THAT HER BLOOD ALCOHOL CONTENT AT THE TIME OF THE CRASH, 0.18, MORE THAN TWICE THE LEGAL LIMIT. THE COURT ENTERED A NOT GUILTY PLEA ON HER BEHALF IN APRIL. MAGGIE VESPA HAS COVERED THIS CASE AND JOINS US WITH MORE AND THAT REVELATION ABOUT THE BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL, SIGNIFICANT HERE. EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE THE DEFENSE SAYS SHE WASN'T DRUNK. HELP US UNDERSTAND. >> Reporter: THIS IS KIND OF THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE HEARING TODAY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES WERE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE HER ATTORNEYS ARGUE ESSENTIALLY SHE WASN'T DRUNK WHEN SHE DROVE THROUGH THE CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY. INSTEAD THEY SAID SHE HAD A SEIZURE BEHIND THE WHEEL AND HAD NO WAY OF CONTROLLING WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE THAT VIDEO FROM INSIDE COURT TODAY. YOU'RE WATCHING THIS HEARING PLAY OUT. THE EMOTIONS IN THAT ROOM WERE SO PALPABLE. 66-YEAR-OLD MARCELLA CHITTEDSTER IS THE NAME OF THE DEFENDANT. HER TEAM SAYS SHE HAS A HISTORY OF SEIZURES AND SAY DESPITE THE BLOOD ALCOHOL CONTENT THEY SAY THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THIS. THEIR ARGUMENT IS THEY ARE PARSING WHETHER OR NOT THE BLOOD ALCOHOL SAMPLE WAS STORED PROPERLY SAYING HEY, WAS IT REFRIGERATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? IF NOT, COULD IT HAVE FERMENTED FURTHER AFTER BEING GATHERED? THE PROSECUTION SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOT. THEY SAY EVERYTHING WAS HANDLED PER PROTOCOL, BUT WHAT WAS KEY IN ADDITION TO THAT REVELATION AND THAT VIDEO YOU'RE SEEING WAS THIS INTERVIEW THAT WAS RECORDED WITH CHITTEDSTER IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CRASH. YOU SEE POLICE ASKING HER IF SHE REMEMBERS WHAT HAPPENED. CHECK THIS OUT. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAVE SEIZURES AND -- >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LIKE DOES YOUR DOCTOR PERMIT YOU TO DRIVE AND EVERYTHING? >> I'M CLEARED TO DRIVE NOW. >> ZERO BEING LIKE YOU CAN DRIVE PERFECTLY AND TEN YOU CAN'T. WHERE ARE YOU NOW? >> FIVE. >> FIRST SHE TALKS ABOUT HER SEIZURES SAYING SHE HAS A HISTORY OF THEM BUT WAS CLEARED TO DRIVE AND THE PROSECUTION SAYING YOU SAID YOURSELF YOU'RE A SEVEN OUT OF TEN WHEN IT COMES TO BEING INTOXICATED. THE JUDGE AT THE END AGREED SECOND DEGREE MURDER GIVEN THE EVIDENCE WAS THE APPROPRIATE CHARGE TO MOVE FORWARD ON. SHE IS SET TO BE ARRAIGNED NEXT MONTH, AT WHICH POINT WE EXPECT HER TO ENTER A PLEA ON HER OWN BEHALF. >> MAGGIE VESPA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> WE ARE NOW? >> NEWS FOR THE GENERATION OF NOW IS "NBC NEWS NOW." >>> WE ARE BACK LIVE FROM THE SPIN ROOM IN ATLANTA. I'M COMING DOWN THE STEPS. UP THOSE STEPS IN WHAT USED TO BE AN ARENA UNTIL A COUPLE DAYS AGO IS WHERE ALL THE MEDIA WILL WATCH THE DEBATE. AFTERWARDS THIS IS WHERE THE ACTION IS. COME WITH ME BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IT STARTING TO FILL UP. YOU'VE GOT ALLIES OF BOTH CANDIDATES DOING SOME PREEMPTIVE SPIN, IF YOU WILL. THERE I SPOT CONGRESSMAN BYRON DONALD HERE AS A SURROGATE ON BEHALF OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE LOOK OVER THERE, COREY LEWANDOWSKI ALSO HERE FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT. I SPOTTED GAVIN NEWSOM A COUPLE MINUTES AGO HERE ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENT BIDEN TRYING TO MAKE THE CASE HERE FOR THE PRESIDENT AND AGAINST FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE PERHAPS THE MOST POLITICAL MOMENT OF THIS ELECTION SEASON YET. WE KNOW IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MOST VIEWED MOMENT OF THIS ELECTION SEASON WITH POLLING SHOWING SOME SEVEN IN TEN AMERICANS SAYING THEY'LL WATCH THIS TONIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE WAY MORE PACKED THAN THIS LATER TONIGHT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SET UP UP THERE. YOU'LL BE WATCHING MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND TOM LLAMAS DO HIS THING IN OUR PRE AND POST SHOW. YOU CAN WATCH ALL OF IT HERE COMING UP ON "NBC NEWS NOW" AND ON NBC WHEN THIS THING BEGINS. 90 MINUTES, SUPER CRITICAL. SPEAKING OF BYRON DONALD, MY PHOTOGRAPHER IS GOING TO BUMP INTO SOME FOLKS GATHERING WITH HIM OVER THERE. HE TOLD ME EARLIER TODAY HE BELIEVES FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HE THINKS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCIPLINED THAN IN THE PAST. CEDRIC RICHMOND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TOLD ME HE BELIEVES PRESIDENT BIDEN MAY GO AT THE FORMER PRESIDENT ON HIS FELONY CONVICTION, ON SOME OF THESE BIG ISSUES OF FITNESS FOR OFFICE. THAT'S THE SETUP HERE IN SPIN. WE'VE GOT TEAM COVERAGE COVERING EVERY ANGLE OF THIS. VAUGHN HILLYARD IS OUTSIDE THE ROOM. CHUCK TODD IS BACK HOME IN WASHINGTON. WE'VE GOT BRIAN STELTER, SPECIAL VANITY STAR CORRESPONDENT WITH US AS WELL FOR ALL THINGS POLITICAL THEATER. VAUGHN, YOU MADE YOUR WAY OUTSIDE. WE NOW KNOW BOTH CANDIDATES ARE HERE IN ATLANTA. THE QUESTION IS WHO ARE THEY HERE WITH? THAT'S SOME OF THE INTRIGUE HEADING INTO TONIGHT. TALK US THROUGH IT. >> LET'S BE CLEAR. DONALD TRUMP ANNOUNCED HIS 2024 BACK IN NOVEMBER 2022. THERE WERE QUESTION MARKS, WOULD HE BE NOMINEE OR WOULD THERE BE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN? FOR JOE BIDEN IT WAS WOULD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY UNIFY AROUND HIM IN AN EFFORT TO WIN A SECOND TERM. THE ANSWER TO BOTH QUESTIONS IS YES. YOU'VE GOT THE REMATCH AND THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE FOLKS LIKE CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM WHO IS HERE TONIGHT IN GEORGIA FOUR MONTHS OUT FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION. I TALKED TO HIM A FEW MINUTES AGO AND ASKED HIM HOW WOULD HE DESCRIBE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TODAY IN THE EXTENT TO WHICH IT IS UNIFIED OR NOT? HE SAID, "I'M HERE. THERE'S SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK IS HERE," AND HE SAID IN HIS MIND THERE HAS BEEN NO PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION EVER THAT WALKED AWAY WITH MORE LEGISLATIVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAN THAT OF HE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. HE SAID WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUESTION OF AGE, IT'S NOT ABOUT ONE'S OWN AGE, THE CANDIDATE'S AGE, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE AGE AND HOW OLD SOMEBODY'S IDEAS ARE WHICH IS ROOTED IN THIS COUNTRY. FOR GAVIN NEWSOM, A RISING STAR IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IS THAT TYPE OF SURROGATE THAT'S IMPORTANT. FOR DONALD TRUMP HE'S GOT A LITANY OF OTHERS THAT INCLUDE DOUG BURGUM, J.D. VANCE AND SEVERAL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO WILL BE IN THAT SPIN ROOM ON HIS BEHALF. >> SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WAS HERE YOU SPOKE WITH IS THE ESTRANGED NIECE OF FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, MARY TRUMP, WHO HAS BEEN DEPLOYED HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN TO TRY AND HELP MAKE THE CASE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. CHUCK TODD, I WANT TO GO TO YOU AND HEAR HOW YOU THINK THIS PLAYS OUT ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING LISTEN, IT'S STILL EARLY DAYS. WE'VE GOT A WAYS TO GO BEFORE NOVEMBER AND AT LEAST ONE MORE DEBATE ON THE BOOKS. >> Reporter: I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, THERE'S ONE MORE DEBATE ON THE BOOKS. WHY DO I BRING THAT UP? A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL LOOK AT A FIRST DEBATE, FIRST MATCH-UP, A LOT OF TIMES THIS HAPPENS IN PRIMARY CAMPAIGNS, BUT ALSO GENERAL ELECTIONS AND EVERYBODY WALKS AWAY GOING OH, THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE POLITE THAN I EXPECTS BECAUSE THE CANDIDATES REALIZE THEY'RE MAKING A FIRST IMPRESSION. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TRUMP AND BIDEN ARE MAKING FIRST IMPRESSIONS? WHAT THEY REALLY ARE MAKING IS A NEW IMPRESSION, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF CARICATURES AND STEREOTYPES ABOUT BOTH OF THEM OUT THERE. IF YOU THINK THE COUNTRY IS FRAGMENTED AND I'LL SAY WE'RE LOOSELY FRAGMENTED IN THE 40%, 40%, 20% FOR POLITICAL TERMS. I THINK 40% OF THE COUNTRY WHO SUPPORT TRUMP THINK BIDEN IS NOT AMBULATORY AND 40% WHO SUPPORT BIDEN THINK TRUMP IS TOTALLY UNHINGED AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DOUBLE HATERS SITTING IN THE MIDDLE. SO LOOK, I THINK IF EITHER ONE OF THEM IT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE THE CARICATURE THAT'S PORTRAYED OF THEM BY THEIR POLITICAL FOES, THAT'S A PROBLEM TONIGHT, WHICH IS WHY I THINK I ACTUALLY TAKE BYRON DONALD AT HIS WORD AND I THINK THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE A BIT MORE RISK AVERSE BECAUSE THINK ABOUT THIS, HALLIE. SIX WEEKS AGO I THINK THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN WAS A BIT DESPERATE. I THINK NOW THEY FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE. THE TRUMP FOLKS FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE. IF YOU FEEL GOOD WHERE YOU ARE, YOU RISK AVERT IN YOUR FIRST ABATE. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING WHILE THE STAKES ARE HIGH, BOTH SIDES HAVE SET THE BAR FAIRLY LOW HEADING INTO TONIGHT. IS THAT FAIR? >> Reporter: 100% IN. THAT SENSE THEY BOTH HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB. ONE JUST HAS TO PROVE TO BE NICE AND NOT A BULLY. ONE HAS TO PROVE TO BE COGENT LIKE TALK ABOUT LOW BAR. >> YEAH. BRIAN. I WANT TO GET IN WITH YOU ON THIS AND I WANT TO TAKE A WALK TO SHOW THE AUDIENCE WHERE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WILL BE WATCHING THIS FROM. WE'RE IN THAT ARENA THAT HAS BEEN TURNED INTO THIS MASSIVE SPIN ROOM. FORGIVE THE BACK OF MY HEAD SHOT. PAUL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK UP ALL THESE STAIRS. I'M NOT GOING TO BECAUSE I'M NO LONGER A HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE, BUT UP CIRCLING THIS ARENA MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WILL BE WATCHING THIS DEBATE, TWEETING, TALKING ABOUT IT ONLINE, WRITING UP THEIR LIVE BLOGS AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TOLD ME EARLIER IN THE HOUR, THE IDEA WE ARE NOW IN THIS TIKTOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER LANDSCAPE. WE'VE BEEN FOR A WHILE, BUT MORE SO THAN FOUR YEARS OR EVEN EIGHT YEARS AGO. IT MAY BE SOME OF THOSE VIRAL MOMENTS THAT CATCH FIRE. ONE OUTLOOK PUT IT THIS WAY FROM A BIDEN SENIOR ADVISER SAYING HEY, THE TWO CAN DEBATE, BUT ALL ANYBODY REMEMBERS IS THE FLY THAT LANDS ON BIDEN'S HEAD. >> Reporter: THIS TIME AROUND THOSE MINI MOMENTS MAY HELP TO COUNTER THE NARRATIVE THAT EXISTS ABOUT THESE CONDITIONS. IF YOU SEARCH JOE BIDEN'S NAME ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU'LL SEE CLIPS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXTS OR HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S LOST AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING. TO SEE HIM UP THERE 90 MINUTES TAKING QUESTIONS AND TAKING FIRE FROM TRUMP MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE TENS OF MILLIONS WHO WATCH THIS. IN 2020 IN THE GRIPS OF A PANDEMIC WE DID NOT HAVE THESE KIND OF GIANT EVENTS, BIG ORGANIZED KIND OF EVENTS. WE'LL HAVE NORMAL CONVENTIONS AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE'RE GETTING BACK TO POLITICS AS SORT OF THE NEW NORMAL IN AMERICA. I THINK IT'S KIND OF GREAT TO SEE. >> IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE ALWAYS DO THESE DEBATES AND THERE'S ALWAYS A SPIN ROOM AND YOU'RE ALWAYS A LITTLE DISCONNECTION WHERE THE ACTION IS ON THE DEBATE STAGE, BUT THERE'S A MOMENT LIKE THIS, BYRON DONALD AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AROUND HIM TRYING TO GET THAT SHOT. THESE ARE THE MOMENTS WHERE SOME OF THE SPIN HAPPENS, RIGHT? THAT IS PART OF WHAT THESE CAMPAIGNS PREPARE FOR INTENTLY AHEAD OF A DEBATE MOMENT LIKE THIS, PARTLY BECAUSE OF A NUMBER THAT'S FASCINATED ME SINCE IT CAME OUT. CHUCK, I'LL WANT YOUR TAKE ON THIS NUMBER. QUINNIPIAC SUGGESTS ABOUT 16% OF PEOPLE SAY THEIR MINDS COULD BE CHANGED BY WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT DEBATE STAGE TONIGHT, NOT A BIG NUMBER, BUT THIS ELECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT BIG NUMBERS. YOU FIRST, CHUCK. >> Reporter: IT'S BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOT PAID ATTENTION UP UNTIL NOW. THIS MATTERS A LOT. THIS IS ABOUT FIRST IMPRESSIONS AND NEW IMPRESSIONS. >> Reporter: LOOK. THAT IS A REALLY HONEST NUMBER. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 16% ISN'T A LOT, AS YOU SAY. IF THEY CHANGE THEIR MINDS, MIGHT MOVE IT A PERCENTAGE POINT, BUT A PERCENTAGE POINT COULD BE ALL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WINNING OR LOSING THOSE THREE MIDWESTERN SWING STATES. >> Reporter: HERE'S ONE CHALLENGE. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MAKES MUTED WHEN THE CANDIDATES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING. THIS IS SOMETHING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN APPARENTLY WANTED, A WAY TO TRY TO KEEP THE CANDIDATES ON MESSAGE AND TRY TO AVOID DONALD TRUMP FROM ATTACKING AND BEMOANING BIDEN. I WONDER IF THAT BACKFIRES ON THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN BECAUSE WE'LL SEE TRUMP IN A MORE CONTROLLED SETTING, PERHAPS IN A MORE MODERATED WAY. THERE'S BEEN ALL THIS TALK ABOUT WHETHER BIDEN WILL BE USING STIMULANTS. THE RIGHT WING MEDIA IS TRYING TO CLAIM BIDEN WILL BE HYPED UP ON DRUGS, BUT WE MIGHT SEE TWO RELATIVELY SUBDUED CANDIDATES TONIGHT AND THAT COULD BENEFIT TRUMP WHICH I THINK IS NOT BAKED INTO THE PREDEBATE CALCULATIONS. >> NOT TO MENTION, A HALL WITH A LIVE AUDIENCE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN STAFF AND CREW. WE HAVE TWO MINUTE BEFORE THE REST OF OUR PREDEBATE COVERAGE PICKS UP WITH TOM LLAMAS. I THINK I SEE HIM PLUGGING IN WITH OUR VAUGHN HILLYARD, A LITTLE BACKSTAGE ACTION. BRIAN AND CHUCK, LOOKING AHEAD HERE AS TO WHAT'S NEXT, CHUCK, IT'S CANDIDATES TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY MOMENTUM THEY MAY PICK UP ON THE DEBATE STAGE TO GO TO STATE THAT MAY MATTER TO THEM, PRESIDENT BIDEN SET TO HEAD TO NORTH DAKOTA AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SET TO GO TO VIRGINIA. >> Reporter: NEXT WEEK IS A VACATION WEEK. SO THEY ONLY HAVE ONE DAY TO REVEL IN THIS BECAUSE THE COUNTRY WILL KIND OF SORT OF TAKE THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS OFF. >> JULY 11th, BRIAN, WHEN DONALD TRUMP WILL BE SENTENCED ON HIS FELONY CONVICTION. WHEN YOU KNOW EVERY NETWORK WILL BE WALL TO WALL DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT SENTENCE WILL BE. THERE WILL BE MORE MAJOR MOMENTS IN THIS COMPLAIN TO COME. >> Reporter: THAT'S A REMINDER WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS NIGHT. WE ARE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE ARE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC FORCES MOSTLY ON THE RIGHT RIGHT NOW. TRUMP WHO IS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST IMMIGRANTS. THIS IS A VERY PROPULSIVE, COMBUSTIBLE ELECTION SEASON. EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT SEE NORMAL TONIGHT, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THOSE FORCES WILL BE WITH US FOR SOME TIME TO COME. >> WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU WITH US TONIGHT. VAUGHN HILLYARD IS GETTING READY FOR THE REST OF THE COVERAGE. ONE LAST LOOK AROUND THE SPIN ROOM. THERE HE HAS. VIVEK RAMASWAMY IN THE CORNE