09/12/2024 - Pac 12 Expansion and NCAAF Betting Odds

Published: Sep 11, 2024 Duration: 00:59:51 Category: Sports

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progress so the Pack 12 is rebuilding and to date this is hot off the press the Pack 12 is mobilizing its long discussed plan to rebuild the league with additions from the mountain West Conference in fact the two team conference being Washington State and Oregon State will add Boise State San Diego State Colorado State and Fresno State well it looks like it's going to be the state conference at this point if you know what I mean because you have all state universities at this point nonetheless that is a big addition and adding those four squads are better yet those four universities that may bring a little bit of credibility back to the conference itself not really sure to what degree but it should bring some credibility back to the conference so the Pack 12 actually confirmed the additions in a statement today so commissioner Teresa Gould and officials from the Pack 12 has spent the last year examining the possible options for their future after 10 schools left for the Big 10 Big 12 and ACC and they've long held the belief that they can preserve the Pack 12 brand by reconstructing the conference through expansion using its 108-year-old tradition history and assets to attract new members well before we get into the balance of this what I'm curious of is if they are adding new institutions which of course they are the Pack 12 previously had a whole bunch of research institutes right so we have UCLA and Stanford and Cal and USC and you know good schools good academic institutions that have migrated away so my big question is have they vetted the research institutes because folks these are colleges these are not sports teams if you know what I mean and so the colleges themselves the research institutions need to be researched so I guess the bigger question is out of those four academically speaking I don't believe any of those qualify from an academic standpoint I mean they're not even at the same level as Washington State or Oregon State academically so I guess we have a first question is academically do they qualify I'm going to say absolutely not as an academic recruiter for one of American top universities I would absolutely argue against the expansion to those particular institutes only because they don't qualify now the question is they're going to have to get to at least two more and they're going to have to Target at least a couple of good academic institutions of course with the Athletics that they're seeking but more importantly it has to qualify and if they don't then what's going to happen is in my opinion the Pack 12 is going going to lose their power five standing right and I don't I don't really know who wants to see that because we went all the way from the pack 8 back in the day to the pack 10 to the Pack 12 now they're back to the pack 8 yet they carry the brand of the Pack 12 because that's what they do and so you ask yourself well all right what is the goal here well the goal is money and TV contracts let's be clear about this folks it's money and TV contracts and it always has been money and TV contracts so in case you have some wild ideas about this being about academics I can assure you it has in my opinion nothing to do with academics whatsoever because if that were the case they certainly being the pack two would not have gone after those four institutions that they added to the roster I mean really folks it is very clear that it is not about academ right so honestly it's all about show me the money it's all about the almighty dollar sad but true and it it it stinks when it has to be that way but then again that's what it has come to anyway so this whole expansion is expected to be the first phase in a multiphase expansion Endeavor to reach at the very least eight schools as I mentioned the ncaa's minimum requirement to qualify as an FBS conference with the F4 mention 4 joining the league needs two more to complete the process and it must reach a minimum by July of 2026 that's actually the end of the grace period the two-year grace period by the NCAA and the P 12's board must approve any member application on top of it and I mean look I I'm not really sure what criteria I mean two legs on a pulse for the other four that just joined in and it's just that the pack two are so desperate as I see it to maintain maintain their status maintain the Integrity of the Pack 12 that they just said all right who wants to come over from the Mountain West let's go ahead and take some more I mean look the expansion itself is not expensive it's not inexpensive nonetheless each Mountain West School is contractually bound to 17 million exit fee and the Pack 12 is on the hook for an additional 10 to 12 million penalty for every school they acquire as part of the scheduling agreements okay well guess what they have I think a couple of hundred million dollar sitting there for the Pack 2 or Pack 12 as it were and so they have plenty in the war chest to compensate the schools that have migrated or compensate the conference the Mountain West Conference that is so I mean look after months of examining future options the league officials determined to reimagine the conference with an expansion approach in negotiations with potential new members Pack 12 officials and third parties have presented at a plan that features a new media rights agreement worth more than the Mountain West Conference current or future television package as well as sponsorships to potential of the Pack 12 brand itself and so the two schools offered attractive assets being Oregon state Washington state that could total Millions as the result of 10 schools departing the conference including monies from the Rose Bowl contract college football playoff NCAA basketball tournament and the Pack 12 Enterprises previously the Pack 12 Network and the league lost its destination and designation as an autonomous power conference as a moniker that gives it more voting privilege within NCAA governance and more Revenue in the cfp distribution model but it's unclear if the conference could regain such designation not really sure about that so during the Pack 12 media days right here in Las Vegas Gould being the director being the commissioner of the conference hosted the media members administrators coaches players for a gathering to celebrate the conference projecting a bright future and suggesting a potential rebuild and in fact she told Yahoo sports quote there's a lot of interest in having a high level conference rooted in the west coast there are a lot of interest in our communities and fan bases a lot of people care deeply about the Pack 12 and Pack 12 brand there's a lot of nostalgia about the possibility of a rebuild close quotes well the pack 12's first expansion phase considered geographical and cultural significance while serving a blow to the mountain rival M Mountain West rival conference that's not really cool for them I mean look the Mountain West Conference A2 team football league counting Hawaii would lose some of its top brands despite a scheduling alliance with the Pack 12 that many projected to end with a reverse merger or merger with Oregon State and Washington State so earlier this month negotiations broke down between the Pack 12 and the mount West over adding a second year to the 2024 football scheduling Alliance and a fight that would most notably involve Financial differences according to those with knowledge and the move by the pack 12 could ignite another round of realignment at least for those schools at the group of five or even FCS level in needing to fill departures so the Mountain West is likely to evaluate possible members to elevate the FBS tell you what we come back we're going to finish up with this pretty interesting discussion we'll see who can migrate to the Pack 12 and who can migrate to the Mountain West without damaging too many or hurting too many feelings back here in a few minutes on the sport circus let where to go attention 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9935 702799 9935 or make your selection directly at uppercut chops.com welcome back to the sports circus I'm Roy fireo now it's time to throw it back to foul thank you Roy and welcome back to the sports circus from fabulous Las Vegas in the amp TV Studio that's a television this segment brought to you in part by your friends over at the College of Southern Nevada Athletics check them out at CSN coyotes. comom for upcoming games and events that CSN coyotes. comom for the College of Southern Nevada Athletics all right a big welcome back everybody listening in on all of our Network affili including our friends over in hulo on CBS Sports 1500 khk that's one of the New York Yankees San Francisco 49ers and the Alabama Crimson Tide welcomeing everybody else up and down the West Coast on all of our Independents as well as all the way through Denver Chicagoland Minneapolis St Paul through Dallas down to our friends over in Auburn Alabama wud home of the Atlanta Braves and speaking of Atlanta big AO to our friends over there as well wdj y99 FM and all of our other friends up and down the East Coast from Miami through Washington DC Boston New York and beyond all right and hello to our friends on TV all right back with this Pacific 12 but you can call it the Pack 12 expansion from the Pack 2 now to the pack six yes and they just announced that they added San Diego State Boise State Fresno State and we're missing one Boise State Fresno State San Diego State and oh yeah Colorado State so this is kind of an interesting expansion idea for a few reasons outside of the geographic uh positioning of these institutes I mean it kind of makes sense yet none of them are really research institutes which certainly diminishes the value of the P 12 what it stands for anyway but let's finish this up here and the P 12's move may have another ripple effect on a grand stage is what I want to go with this that would be the college football playoff given the departure in the Pack 12 cfp leaders last year voted to change the 12 team expanded playoff format they removed one automatic qualifying spot and added an at llarge bid for a format that features five automatic qualifiers for the highest ranked Conference champions and seven at large bids so in the next couple of years the Pack 12 Champion is not eligible for an automatic qualifying spot as it does not meet the cf's conference minimum requirements however starting in 2026 the champion of a rebuilt Pack 12 would presumably be eligible to receive an automatic bid so that of course begs the question after the latest realignment what are the schools will the Pack 12 try to scoop up I mean look everyone's got an opinion on this everybody does and it doesn't matter who you're talking to just myself as well and one organization had stated that the conference of Champions is on the way to rebuilding starting with the acquisition of four Mountain West schools Boise State San Diego State Colorado State Fresno State and they will be play in the new league in the fall of 2026 and of course that gets commissioner Teresa Gould I and I stuttered for a second I stopped for a minute there because I was thinking of Robbie Gold now the correct pronunciation for hers is Gould yet Robbie Gold the former Chicago Bears and San Francisco 49ers field goal kicker a very good one he has the exact same spelling and he pronounces it gold it's pretty interesting nonetheless so Teresa Gould the commissioner of the Pack 12 it gets her to six members with Oregon state Washington State as we noted earlier but she needs at least two more additions to reach the ncaa's minimum threshold to qualify as an FBS Contra or conference so as she has only a matter of months to do it the Pack 12 must reach eight members by July of 2026 and of course the end of the ncaa's 2-year grace period that allows the league to reestablish itself so it seems like a long time but it really isn't I mean in a world with constant moves and money and big contracts I mean it seems like this one's fighting for that contract fighting for this contract so the Pack 12 would prefer to have its full membership during negotiations for a new television deal there it is it's all about the money something they'd probably like to get solidified sooner rather than later and of course any TV network would prefer to know what they're buying before they buy it right that's the old caveat mour buyer beware in its statements announcing the new additions to the conference the Pack 12 provided criteria for additional new members but as it's often the case Brand Power onfield success and television markets will move the needle more than anything that said there are other factors to consider such as total membership number you don't want to spread yourself too thin and take on programs that don't add enough value now the question is what kind of value you talking about because I would say that those schools the additions add very little academic value now remember television contracts serve as the biggest Revenue generator for athletic departments and you must distribute television money often evenly to your members unless of course you're some of these other favored institutions but that's another discussion for another time with each new member you decrease the amount of the whole so there is something else to consider exit and penalty fees for potential new members these can be costly and despite the narrative that the Pack 12 has endless money to pay for all those transactions really it doesn't yes the conference has more than 100 million bucks in a war chest that's a new revenues due to the bull contracts cfp distribution and NCAA tournament units but it is using many of those funds for operational purposes how can two organizations two institutions burn through 100 million I don't know nonetheless enough about all that who else could or would enter the Pack 12 and the league wants to be known as the best of the rest at this point outside of the power four leagues so who would agree to make that move and what's the ripple effect on the other group of five conferences and college sports as a whole so take a look at the ACC and Big 12 look the pack 12's first option was not to rebuild it was a fine option and one they were comfortable with but it certainly wasn't the priority Oregon State and Washington State's top option was the same as all the other schools left searching for a home after Washington and Oregon left for the Big 10 and they wanted to join an established power conference so of course overtures to the Big 12 and ACC went nowhere and they showed little to no interest as they did last fall when the league took Colorado Utah Arizona Arizona State and well let's face it Stanford and Cal went to the ACC as well and I think actually academically they're a very good fit over there some fine institutions in the ACC anyway geographically it's a mess but there was hope expressed even publicly at times that a significant realignment even in the ACC Florida State Clemson and other existing would trigger a domino effect that could benefit the pack 12's future so perhaps they could serve as a replacement and form an ACC West Coast Wing which okay the ACC the Atlantic Coast Conference yet on the Pacific Ocean let's think about that come on it doesn't really make a lot of sense anyway so with Sanford and Kell being ACC West I don't know about that or maybe the Cardinal and bears would be willing in an ACC left and disarray to join them in their rebuild Quest no I don't think so not with the addition of those substandard academic institutions I don't think so so that leads them here rebuilding with the addition of Mount Mountain West schools which sort of was on the blueprint before and everybody talked about this I talked about this six seven months ago maybe even a year ago anyway Stanford and Kell did sign the ACC grant of rights binding them to the league till 2036 as the current deal is written and of course this is not new information as we said previously but for now as the ACC agreement is written they are not candidates in the Pack 12 rebuild but one day if the ACC starts losing members could they be h magic gball says science point to yes and for now that's not the case and it would likely take a catastrophic event to convince the two to turn down Millions each in ACC television revenues to return to the Pack 12 and frankly why would they because really the caliber of the Pack 12 was greatly diminished with if they come back with Washington and Oregon gone USC and UCLA gone what is the point they all went to the Big 10 they went for a very good reason now the Big 10 is truly big and they go from coast to coast they cover the top three media markets in America New York Chicago La so why would the other schools even consider turning back in the same light as why would the ACC want to or even allow Stanford and Kell to leave in the first place when they just took them and I I think it would be a horrible move anyway while they're not yet receiving full ACC shares they will eventually get them and those figures are expected to be significantly more than the TV value of the Pack 12 in the first place so who could join who could join the pack two and we'll start out of course with the American Athletic Conference so if the pack 12's next preferred expansion were in the Mountain West and Beyond the four already named they'd already have a nice big task in front of them however they didn't so a sign they first may look for easterly candidates right to expand the footprint not really sure that's a good idea but anyway let's just play along so that includes a host of programs many of them now members of the AAC for years the premier group of five league in college athletics and the ACC has most the most attractive members from a TV Market brand value an onfield perspective including Memphis 2 Lane UTSA North Texas rice and even one in Florida being South Florida of course the Texas schools would make a strong travel partner with one another same goes with tulan and rice two high academic institutions that are close in proximity to one another and they say well rice is a hard cell I don't know about that we're going to come right back to this I mean you got to remember rice has kind of bounced around quite a bit and rice is one of America's better universities that people don't know about we're talk about that in just a few minutes don't go anywhere L more to come here on the circus I'm your ring Master cell of the sport circus of prime time nationally syndicated television radio sports and entertainment show the sport circus covers topics others are too scared to talk about there's no other Prime Time show like it on here that I'll punch you in the face and you'll beg for more join me Hall of Famer world champions and Allstar celebrity guests for chaos and controversy here on Lipson and all podcast platforms plus the sports 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who could they add and we left off talking about the American Athletic Conference and they seem to have the most attractive members from a TV Market of course as we mentioned in the last segment going to recap brand value an onfield success perspective including Memphis T Lane UTSA North Texas the mean green the rice owls and even South Florida now the Texas schools would make strong travel partners with one another the same goes with TOA rice which of course are two high academic institutions that are pretty close to one another so if given the chance not all will get interest from the Pack 12 and this is of course just somebody's opinion and these schools must decide if moving to a conference across the country in a completely different region is a cultural fit and it's offset by the pack 12's brand and television value so again what do we come back to show me the money that's right so the problem look we don't really know its TV value but those at the Pack 12 estimated to be higher than the best group of five deals which is the American who distributes to its original members about about 8 to$ 10 million annually not bad so if the Pack 12 is at 10 to 12 million per school is that worth the move across the country what about $15 million and of course the latter fig seems high but who knows I mean these TV contracts look folks end of day when you look at the scheduling in the western half of the US there needs to be an expanded television package somebody's going to have to carry CU not everybody just gets up at the crack ofon on the west coast and watches the East Coast games or those in the midwest no they like to have their day and then turn on their afternoon game maybe the 12:00 game and see their schools in their region playing so that's the Allure behind this not everybody wants to get up at 5:00 in the morning or 6 o' in the morning get ready for the pregame which they'd rather be watching that at maybe 11:00 in the morning where normal people are ready after doing whatever they do on a Saturday morning so look don't expect new AAC commissioner Tom pretti to be proactive now according to those with knowledge of his thinking Peretti is interested in pursuing Mountain West programs such as Air Force well that's a whole another discussion we're going to get to in just a moment here so Peretti already has Army and Navy in his conference Air Force is a sensible and attractive addition to the Mountain West and the ACC or better yet to the AAC excuse me and the AAC could offer more in distribution than the Mountain West does which is at about 5 to 6 million but the American isn't the only league with teams of interest to the Pack 12 the Sun Belt has Texas State than upand cominging athletic department which is well they've got a pretty good football team all right but folks again is this about sports or is it about academics right now it's about sports apparently and of course they have a large student body just outside of Austin Texas which I don't know politically if that matches the climate as well because they're hyper liberal in Austin Texas it's the only part of Texas besides the center of Houston that happens to be a that distinction well or lack thereof if you know what I mean anyway maybe they'll fix their games like the uh debate who knows anyway so something also to keep in mind with all this the Pack 12 losses designation as an autonomous power conference a moniker that gives it more voting privileges with the NCAA governance and more Revenue in the cfp distribution model so while unlikely to earn back the status there is a lookin provision in this the cfp contract after 2027 after the playoffs that can be triggered to re-evaluate Revenue distribution in the Pack 12 if stable enough with enough Brands could make an argument for more cfp money now over in the Mountain West what if the Pack 12 is stiming out of the East well they're going to look right back to where they just poached from in the first place seemingly of course that leaves them with few choices ex accept to turn their attention again to the Mount West many around the Athletics Express surprise that wait for it UNLV was not included in the pack 12's initial phase of expansion look the only thing good about having never mind University Nevada it's Las Vegas it's the money from Las Vegas because it certainly isn't the university the university in my opinion is the gum on the bottom of Academia shoe it is what it is folks take a look look at the rankings academically it's not so good anyway of course located in a major city with football program on the way up there's potential there however politics are at place you what a big surprise more politics anyway according to those with knowledge of the discussion separating the two UNLV is a hurdle and it doesn't mean it cannot be done I I sure hope they don't bring those guys in I really don't because now I'll be an absolute anti-ac 12 guy but perhaps at a later date maybe they can be evaluated and a move I don't know I really don't think that they go and if they do go the bigger question question is who goes with them so me personally I look at this and say who are the good fits from the Mountain West I mean first and foremost it is Air Force they need a strong academic program in the Pack 12 because if you don't have one what do you have you just have a bunch of schools that are focused on Athletics rather than academics Air Force Academy is one of the finer institutes in America and it almost seems out of place to have them in the Mountain West which is a bunch of mediocre at best institutions I'm saying academically very very mediocre but anyway the Mountain West commissioner Gloria narez is sitting idle and in fact the league has vetted possible members something that traces back to last year when San Diego State and Boise State were in consideration to join the old p 12 so New Mexico State new to Conference USA makes Geographic sense does UTEP also in Conference USA both programs would likely see a doubling of annual distribution could they even get a signing bonus H there's the next one Mountain West is due as much as 110 million in exit fees so you never know that actually may work so then there is talk of wait for it Tarleton State all right with tons of money and potential residents just outside of the Dallas Fort Worth area I mean seriously really come on and what about the FCS now for me I personally think that North Dakota State and South Dakota State make very good options for both the pack six now and or the Mountain West because look these are these are stable academic institutions and they're the only ones really of huge value in the dtas and think about the idea that they expand the coverage they expand the footprint I mean there's not a big population there but what about Montana state of Montana what about the Grizz unfortunately I mean you got four schools there could they join the Pack 12 maybe could they join the Mountain West probably better so there but keep in mind that the NCAA recently increased the entrance fee for those moving from the FCS to the FBS to $5 million and I love this here's an article by Yahoo and they say basketball schools not institutions basketball schools back to the Pack 12 there are plenty of West Coast basketball brands that may be attractive to any new pack 12 Conference of course the easy one is Gonzaga a program with a story basketball tradition that routinely advances to Sweet 16 mean is this about sports what the hell is this about this is stupid and you know I scratch my head with this and say well wait a minute what are we really trying to achieve here is this just about money never mind the institutions in which build economies that would be education that's the biggest question that I have and so Washington State and Oregon State they have their hands full in trying to drive something other than Sports they are supposed to protect the academics of these institutions in the first place I mean are schools like unlb going to help it no who could help the Pack 12 I don't know I think Air Force can easily pack uh help it and I also believe that the University of Hawaii can help it too because not only does it expand the footprint into the Pacific Ocean but also I believe it captures aart of the Las Vegas Market anyway yet it'll still keep its rival with the local school but what it does is it brings the viable option to the ninth Island which is right here in fabulous Las Vegas and I think it really helps the television coverage so let's face it folks Hawaii and Air Force in my opinion are the two logical picks but then again I'm not on that committee I wouldn't throw in anybody else into that mix it must include Air Force and another and I really believe footprint wise Hawaii seems to be the best option because it gives them a stable presence right here in Las Vegas with over 200,000 Hawaiians right here in fabulous Las Vegas back here in 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briefly talked about Texas State Texas state is going to host Arizona State so basically it's Austin Texas against Phoenix Arizona and somehow Texas state is a 2 and Half Point favorite in some places three a couple of casinos right here in Vegas there are three you know what I'm going to follow the money cuz that's what you're supposed to do folks follow the money the money says Texas state I'm going to take Texas State minus 2 and a half and that's the pretty much the consensus here across the board let's go with that one that one's being played over in the Greater Austin market now Northwestern State in case you don't know where that is folks that is up in Northern Louisiana their colors are purple and yellow and it's a small school in a little town called nacadish and I had been there once before somebody corrected me and they said now it's nadish not nacadas well the reason I said naidus in the first place was because there is a nachas over in Texas on the other side of the Border maybe within an hour away from there and so I know that one pretty well and so when I went over to where Northwestern State is I said hey how's everyone here in naad dois and of course they said uh yeah yeah just get out of here with that it's nackadish anyway so Northwestern State travels to South Alabama South Alabama is a 37 and a half Point favorite I'm going to lay the 37 and A2 all day and twice on Sunday that should be a complete disaster speaking of disaster how about this one how about Kansas it's hosting UNLV now Kansas is a pretty good upstart start Squad and they are minus n across the board wh hold on they're eight and a half at one of these fantasy football places but we're going to call it even though MGM Grant has it at minus 8 and a half let's just take the let's take the nine so nine seems to be fair so let's go minus 9 I'm laying the nine points with Kansas that makes a little bit of sense to me here's a good game this is a really good game and it's Kansas State hosting Arizona now that is a retooled Arizona team but Kansas State is a very good squad they're minus s across the board and I'm inclined to take Arizona plus the seven but I'm not going to I'm going to lay the seven and take Kansas State because those guys are good there's probably going to be one of those high-scoring Affairs I'm going to end up getting bitten on this one but that's okay Tulsa is plus 19 better yet 18 and a half that's consensus 18 and a half and they're hosting Oklahoma State now these two schools aren't far apart from one each other and the golden hurricanes of Tulsa they play their instate Rivals pretty well I'm inclined to take Tulsa as the home team dog plus 18 and a half that's a lot of points the mean green of North Texas traveled to Leck to face the Red Raiders of Texas boy that's a a fun one there so the line opened up at 11 Texas Tech is n and a half across the board and the mean green seem to play pretty close games and it seems like Texas Tech doesn't know how to play defense we're going to take the nine and a half and the mean green I love that name the mean green of Texas North Texas now Alabama and their new coaching staff travels up to Madison Wisconsin and they are laying 16 and a half to Wisconson wow that's a huge number real actually the number is 16 only two places out of eight have the line at 16 and a half so we're going to say consensus is 16 look that line is awful for Wisconsin to get 16 points at home I'm going to lay the 16 and take Alabama that makes all the sense in the world to me only because that's what the money wants Illinois a big home team dog or excuse me home team favorite minus 18 and a half across the board against Central Michigan and Illinois over the time has been known as a defensive Squad They Don't Really score a lot Central Michigan got murdered last week but you know what I'm going to take the 18 and a half and I'm going to go with Central Michigan folks I hope you're keep a score of these because I'm going to go back and check these after the games are played myself and who the hell knows maybe I'll get some big number in maybe I'll lose all of them which I absolutely doubt so Memphis travels to Tallahassee not really too far of a ride but Florida state is six and a half across the board I'm taking Florida State over Memphis all day Cincinnati travels to Miami of Ohio and Cincinnati after a tough loss last week they should get well against Miami of Ohio so we're going to go with Cincinnati minus three and a half the line is three and a half we're going to lay the three and a half with the Bearcats Louisiana Tech travels to Raleigh North Carolina to play NC State Line is 21 and a half across the board I'm going to go with Louisiana Tech that's too many points for Louisiana Tech they a pretty good defensive Squad year in and year out LSU travels to South Carolina that line has stayed seven pretty much all week long a couple of places have it at six and a half South Carolina is a home team dog they're getting seven I'm taking the seven Brian Kelly well let's face it he's a decent coach but I don't know if they're going to cover the seven if anything that game will probably be a push Arkansas State the upstart Arkansas state Club they traveled to Ann Arbor and boy those guys up in big house are not going to be happy but Arkansas State can make this a close game Michigan is they opened up at 24 and it's 23 23 and a half one place actually has it at 22 A2 something tells me that Arkansas state will probably lose this game 31 to10 and they'll find themselves covering that 23 point line so we're going to take Arkansas State there Boston College Michigan's going to win the game Boston College has a very tough game at Missouri now Missouri is a team loaded with defense I don't know I don't even know if Boston College will score in this game I would lay the 16 and take Missouri that's just me but then again Boston College could muster up a touchdown a late touchdown to cover but no it's it's going to be Missouri Missouri is a very very very stable and Sound Club this should be a disaster right here UMass travels to Buffalo Buffalo got murdered last week Buffalo the line has come down point and a half so all the money is going on to UMass but I don't really see what UMass has I'm taking Buffalo minus 3 and a half twice on Sunday also Coastal Carolina is minus 18 at Temple now that's sort of a conundrum because Temple plays defensive football Coastal can Carolina plays offensive football so will they cover the 17 actually 18 we'll call it 18 because it looks like 18 is the average I don't know I don't they probably will I'm going to away from that one Texas A&M and Florida so you have this SEC matchup which usually are pretty close games Florida's a home team dog plus three and a half it's been that way all week it's probably going to stay that way and that's probably a three-point game 27-24 I'll take Florida plus three and a half Washington state in the apple cup this is the early version of the apple cup Washington State travels to Washington normally this is the last game of the year played between these two but now with the addition of Washington to the Big 10 they have other plans but the apple cup is still the apple cup and there's a little bit of Pack 12 Pride there for Washington State watch for Washington State to keep this one close and I don't know I I think all the money is going to go on Washington State look for Washington State to possibly win this game straight up that's was a good money line bet and then the other one Oregon state is hosting Oregon so we have the same Dynamic there Oregon State a very good defensive Squad they opened up at plus 20 a half they're down to plus 16 A2 over Oregon and I think that's going to be a lot closer than what people think I'm going to go with the two home team dogs in the pack two West Virginia in the Backyard Brawl plays Pittsburgh that's a two-point Line West Virginia is minus two and I have no opinion there other than it'll be a fun and entertaining game Ball State in Miami Ball State is getting 37 and a half they're going to need it because Miami should smash them it should be a 49 to nothing game Tain and Oklahoma that looks like the paper clips that line has been 13 and a half pretty much all week we're going to take to Lane with those 13 and a half points that's a lot of points I don't care where they're playing at Nevada Wolfpack travels to Minneapolis St Paul and they're getting 17 and a half they're going to need all of it Minnesota should win by three touchdowns there Notre Damon Purdue unfortunately my beloved boiler makers man it's not going to be a good game for them looks like they're plus n and a half I would take not Dame minus the N9 and a half that seems to be one of the Best Bets of the Year Morgan State and the Bobcats of Ohio no comment because that one's basically off the board Georgia Tech VMI same thing prayview Michigan State pretty much the same thing App State e Carolina that'll be a good game app state is minus one and a half against the Pirates of East Carolina I don't know app State's a very good squad I'm going to take App State and I'm going to lay the one and a half the men of Troy travel to Iowa and they are plus 22 and a half in a game they may score only 22 points in the first place take the points and Troy UAB and Arkansas that is a 21 23 24 points sprad Arkansas Big Utah UT Utah Utah State and Utah state is plus 18 and a half we're going to take Utah state with the points vatch and old Domino vatch all day over old Domino utap and Liberty Liberty lay the farm it doesn't matter Duke and Yukon lay the 16 and a half Duke should win easily Florida International and Florida Atlantic how about Florida Atlantic minus five that's the magic number colgate's off Gardener web's off n Central's off South Carolina State's off Old Miss and wake take the 22 and a half and wake they're a home team dog Western Michigan's off Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee Western Kentucky all day Jacksonville State and Eastern Michigan that looks like it's going to be Eastern Michigan Vanderbilt travels to Atlanta to play Georgia State look at watch I'll take that home team dog at plus 10 and a half UTSA and Texas take that 35 and A2 with UTSA Hawaii Sam Houston all day Hawaii South Florida Southern Miss that's going to be South Florida Kennesaw State San Jose well that's going to be Kennesaw Toledo and and Mississippi State Toledo the Rockets pass them Auburn War Eagle all over New Mexico they owe a school from New Mexico something and we're going to see you in about 24 hours on your favorite station so long everyone can your IRA stand up to the next financial crisis that our top economists are saying is that our door steps by allocating a percentage of your IRA into physical gold and silver with a tax-free rollover you can diversify and Safeguard your Holdings from turbulent markets 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