Iowa Loses to Iowa State - Post Game Reaction

I did not think this was happening I did not think this was coming um I got a lot to unpack we've got a lot to unpack we're going to be welcoming none other than coach Don Patterson who of course is a play caller himself by trade and was a part of the Iowa program for many years under the leadership of Coach Hayden fry he'll be joining us here shortly he is in route home from kinnick stadium in a very sad kinnick Stadium following a 54 yard game-winning kick from Iowa State's kicker so here we are 20 to9 Iowa blowing a 13 to nothing lead in the first half had a 13 to nothing lead at halftime and got outscored do the math uh what would that be 20 to6 in the second half second game of the season I am in a place now and we got a lot of people who are wanting to chat and I get it but I'm in a place right now where I could easily go off okay I could easily just start ripping and I am going to try my best not to do that I don't think it's the time for that but it's possible for me to be provoked not in a bad way but just as it relates to criticism so I'm gonna let the callers kind of fuel this we're gonna get to the ins and outs of this game I've got so many notes to run through and then of course the expertise what makes this show special and unique is the expertise of somebody who coached the game especially on offense and as a head coach for as long as coach Don Patterson did um and we'll get to Coach Patterson here in a little bit couple of things before we uh talk iow was loss player of the game without question Caleb Johnson let me make a correction here that way we don't have that uh this is my my grammarly instinct here Caleb Johnson 25 carries 187 yards two touchdowns he was really good I was really impressed with Caleb in the fourth quarter that may surprise some people I'll explain why in a little bit he was really good and I've been getting ripped all week because I've made statements about how I think Kamari might be their best allaround back he's not playing it like it right now all right Caleb Johnson right now is their best option without question now I think that could change from game to game I think it's interesting we didn't see a second of jazz Patterson today that is a continued storyline but the hot hand today was Caleb Johnson frankly we didn't see many snaps for lean Williams or Kamari Molton in this game and Kirk ference chose to ride the hot hand and I think Liddell Betts Tim Lester those guys all are involved would be involved with Personnel decision- making as it relates to the running back position but uh Caleb Johnson is our RTI threads player of the game if you don't know about RTI threads you can check them out out over at RTI threads.com and player apparel for a couple of current Iowa players well current Iowa Stars Aaron Graves Jacob Gil who I think has potential didn't see the ball much today I'm sure we'll talk about that but also some stars of the future Carson Shire Zack lutmer those guys are getting extensive look on special teams and again check out all the apparel over at RTI threads.com you're supporting nil you're supporting the show and you're supporting um the website RTI threads that supports so much as it relates to Hawkeye athletic ICS and Hawkeye coverage across Hawkeye Nation let's get to our well the man of the hour the guy we've been waiting to hear from and I know I got a lot of questions for Coach Patterson hopefully he'll be able to answer a lot of your questions as well we welcome former Iowa offensive coordinator and the winningest head coach in Western Illinois history coach Don Patterson here to the show Don welcome you're uh red looks like you've been in the sun yep supporting your Hawks I appreciate that uh I don't know where we start I say that every time we're in this position but I guess let's start with the obvious was it right or wrong to go for two when you're up 19 to7 with five minutes to go in the third quarter you tell me Well my wife commented as soon as we scored to go up what was the score at the time 197 I guess um when it was obvious they were going for two I said I don't know about that agre an old adage do not chase the points you've heard that yes there's really no way to know for sure how it's gonna play out but well no on real quick but I don't want to interrupt you but first of all two things can I get you to put your camera down just a little bit so I can get you a better picture second thing you tell me up I'm wrong on this you got five minutes left in the third that's 20 minutes of game right that's at least three possessions for I it's too early to know how it's going to play out and that's why there's that adage do not chase the points obviously if if we're getting into the late stages of the game and they were let's say we were down by we were up by five and it was late in the game it's a no-brainer you go for two right there a six point if you kick the p a touchdown the P will beat you well with 20 minutes left in the game there's really no way to know how it's all going to play out and it I don't remember exactly what the two-point play was but I let's just say I was underwhelmed with the play I didn't at the end of that two-point attempt I didn't say wellow that was a great two-point play to use then didn't work on it didn't work right well it appeared to be a little on the lame side but but I guess it works it doesn't really matter how lame it might appear to be but it didn't it didn't work out well for us and and I remember thinking oh boy I hope that didn't come back to bite us and sure sure enough it did so can we talk a little bit about I want to talk about first half Red Zone scoring because that's a disaster right now U I want to talk about the decision at the end to go for a Hail Mary with a guy who can't reach the end zone and then I want to talk about Kate mcnamar let's start with Kate right so you go second half Kade looked pretty good in that first quarter I think some would say he looked really good in the first quarter although the Run game led the charge there's no question about it Iowa in the first quarter um total on the ground let me get rush yards here seven rushes for 41 yards really solid first quarter but they also threw the ball for 72 yards Cade was eight of 11 through the air and some we finished with less than 100 right that's it's unbelievable it's unbelievable and second we talk about first half second half but how about first quarter versus the other three because for the rest of the game like you said Iowa finished with under Kade mamir finished with under 100 yards in the second quarter Kade mcamera had just eight passing yards so what changed Don what just tell me what changed we we can go microcosm we'll do that we can go look at every little thing but what changed well I'm not sure it's kind of hard to tell sitting out in the stadium you know you don't have the benefit of um you have instant replay up to a point but it's not as easy to see it and all that it seemed to me like um they settled in and and didn't give up it was it was just an odd game in a way I looked at the stats and and as I suspected tight ends hardly played any role at all in in a pass offense we target him a few times but it wasn't productive and I'm not I'm not blaming any particular person that just said I think we need to realize let's give some credit to our state I think they have it above every secondary I said that last Saturday night yeah they haven't experienced secondary and they don't make stupid mistakes incidentally I don't know how I don't know how was it no they called it I think 75 yard I don't know how he got up on on top of waa I don't know what wa was doing what do you mean you don't know how he got on top of waa waa was standing there flat footed I know yeah I mean I don't know what he saw was it even a play action was there a play action involved I I I don't know I didn't go back all I I don't think waa saw the field again after that did he uh I don't know he did so entering or came in and I don't think that was injury related it's a real head scratcher because um you know clearly there was no question who got beat on the play it was clearly number one it would you couldn't say well was it his fault or somebody else's it was clearly his fault but this wasn't just about one play right Don this was no was a methodical comeback when you're down first of all should have been 21-0 at halftime it was 130 but a methodical comeback in the sense of even at the last Drive of the game the two big pass plays um you know we can talk about the offense all day but what happened on those two big pass plays for well one was I think maybe 10 12 yards and the other one was null getting free down the sideline why was Sebastian C matched up against Jaylen null in that situation I didn't realize it was Castro it was Castro yeah I think we playing two man is I recall um you know half coverage in the back end and 500 man and um no simply beat Castro off the ball course he's not used to being lined up like a like a quarterback either I'm talking about up in the guy face even so I think the guy got a good release got on top of him nice throw and um too many yards to to uh even think about allowing at that point in the game I fly didn't expect him to make the kick I'll admit that he missed one earlier and for what I knew he certainly wasn't as good a place kick as the one we have but I give that young man credit he banged it right through and um it was one of those games you've heard me say before Cory if you're the underdog just keep hanging around hanging around hanging around be sure it's a ones score game in this case a two-point game and then you have a chance to win at the end honestly let's back up a little bit if we just can grind out one more first down then they have no chance yeah let me let me just can I can I can I argue with some something sure you on this this wasn't just hanging around this this is a comeback you're up 13 points at halftime and it should have been 21 and you could argue the game is B basically over up 21 I don't think Iowa State's coming down coming back from 21-0 against this defense but 130 is a totally different animal so I don't know that I would say they just hung around this wasn't like it wasn't like what Northern Illinois did with Notre Dame today this this was Iowa dominated that first half even in spite of the passing yards the lack of passing yards in the second quarter from Cade mamadon like everything from Iowa State wouldn't do Jack squat Iowa controlled the field Iowa controlled special teams the only thing Iowa didn't do in that first half was convert inside the 10 yeah I'm going admit it was a little bit of a head scratcher I thought down on the goal line we got a little too cute we had first and go at the three my gosh let's let's run the ball into the end zone I mean they'd have to prove to me that that we couldn't do it and I just thought we um we didn't obviously we didn't have great confidence and we could run it in and I will admit that there are there are other tacklers near the ball of course when you get near the goal line that's the bad news well the good news is you only got to go two three yards so they better they better if they're an extra tackler that's unblocked better do a good job of standing up the ball here because even if we fall forward we may pick up all the yardage we need so I was just surprised a little bit with our play call and then we had to settle for a field goal and and um you know I just give I was take great credit for being resilient U much as we often are yep you know I got nothing I get n you know what I'm not an Iowa State fan and and this loss sucks on so many levels not just for me but for Hawkeye fans everywhere but I got a respect for how Iowa State played this game it wasn't a dirty performance it wasn't because of officiating they just kept their composure and I'm happy for Matt Campbell I think he's a good coach I think he's a good guy I'm I'm real happy for John hok I'm really disappointed for Iowa's players uh Bay Area video Extreme says can't believe kade's QB rating was so low a 66 wow not a power five performance Don how would you rate Kade Mam's day overall well I haven't studied it of course but I'd have to say it's a concern you know the interception that was a to me that was a poor decision you know he rolled right set up threw back left long long throw um pretty good coverage to begin with um nice play for the interception that was a good play on their part but honestly when you throw the ball back across the grain for that length then there's a there's a lot of things that can happen and some of them are not good here's another one that was odd remember the the Deep throw of Gil that was broken up if you go back and look I'm in this I'm just in stadium watching the replay screen it appears to me Kade never did do anything other than look left and again the free saf is a guy that broke the play up if he had just done a better job with eye control and kept him away from the throw a little bit longer he wouldn't have been there so you know that's that's on K or you could argue that's on the coach rather than Kate but um you know coaches feel responsible when players don't do well and so do players and that's the way it should be should be a shared responsibility on the part of player of Coach I want to run through a couple of notes Here Don before we go to a quick commercial break one being um red zone offense so this is what I have written down second quarter so missed opportunity inside the five they go two negative run plays in the second quarter I think you alluded to that and they were just unorthodox play there was another uh there was another opportunity down there where Kade mcam missed a wide openen Jacob Gill in the corner of the endzone did you notice that they pointed that out on CBS but on third down second quarter third down Don inside the five I think it was a throw to was it Lee in the end zone oh he and back on the left side right Jacob and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna use the terminology that coach fry would have used but Jacob Gil was wide open without that other word between keep that there wide open and Kade never looked Kade never looked and this this is one of those games Don and we talk about the siaw game always you know it always comes down to one or two plays it seems like but this really came down to one or two plays and I say that because if they don't get that long completion to Jaylen null they probably don't win if they don't if they don't get the field goal from 54 yards they don't win if if um if he hooks up if Kade mcam hooks up with Jacob Gil there second quarter wide open if he just looks that direction he's gonna throw a you you could have made that throw Don in your 70s and Iowa probably wins this game if lesea Williams doesn't go out of Bounds at the three get knocked down at the three I believe they win like there are so many of those plays I think that's I am concerned on a a macro level because of the Red Zone inefficiency and I think I'd be concerned even if Iowa had found a way to win so besides you said kind of getting a little cute down there and complicating things when you're first and goal at the three yeah they were pretty good Red Zone last week I'd have to go back and pull up their Red Zone trips but but I thought the Red Zone I remember saying on this show hey the red zone offense looks pretty good it didn't look good today Don right and and and I guess to piggyback on that we see Kade memer's numbers I was not calling for Brendan Sullivan during this game but if someone did I I I want to protect whoever it is that makes that state like if somebody says I think we should go with Brandon let's give that person and the benefit of the doubt that this is not a typical quarterback situation this is not having Deacon Hill as your backup having Alex Padilla Duce Hogan Carson may this guy in Brenan Solin has proven himself at Northwestern are you surprised that we have not seen him get a single meaningful snap through two games in spite of how close the battle was through fall camp and it was close through fall Camp well I wasn't I wasn't surprised to not see him today I was certainly surprised as you know already that we didn't see him last week I would like to see him play more than just the last two minutes of the game uh IO Vera uh says look at the bright side everybody we could have been Michigan today the Wolverines got pantsed against Texas but that's a really good Texas team a Texas team that's poised for well they're they've got National Championship hopes but I do appreciate that Super Chat ma'am or sir Jim thank you for as well if there was a comment there we did not get it it did not go through but do appreciate the donation D roll upside game save me 2K from going to Indie let's go Hawks I don't think this has any impact on them going to Indie Don this is a non-conference game so I do appreciate the super chat but this is a non-conference game Lansky coach thanks for your time as always need to calm down Cory and I lost the game or clones won it I know what you're going to say Don well I think both both things happen I thought I thought Iber State deserved to win the game and frankly we deserve to lose the game so I don't know how you can assign more credit to one side or more blame to the other but they won it and we cooperated and managed to managed to lose it lamansky thank you for the Super Chat CH and again as you see Kade mcir has numbers I want to ask you one more thing before we go into a a quick 30 second breakdown you weren't listening to the first hour of this show but am I crazy to have been adamant at the end of this game that Iowa should have sent Drew Stevens onto the field for the final play of the game uh maybe nothing crazy but maybe don't have the appreciation of of the effect of the wind at that point it was still a little bit out of the Northwest okay I I honestly as strong a leg as he has so okay so it was he was going into the wind I did I did that I was not aware of I didn't see see the effect of the wind during the game so I guess I didn't realize wind was was impacting the game well let's not forget that their kicker in the fourth quarter was with the wind and he doesn't have the reputation for having a big leg and comfor went through from 54 probably would have been good from what 56 or seven so my question is Drew Stevens he kicks he makes 65 yarders in practice but not in the wind okay so my question is would you have given what percentage chance would you have given him of making that from 65 I know where you're going with this CH are slim but are they worse than throwing up that won't reach the Enzo and I was not aware of the wind situation because I was not in the stadium and I didn't see that the wind don't get me wrong it was not it was not a stiff wind but any wind at all against you does cut into the length of the kick I wonder if they had gone the other direction if this flip this field had been flipped if they would have sent Drew Stevens on out there for a 50 65 yard what was our our last yard line on the Hillary what what yard line were we on I forget um it would have been the 49 49 so typically they back up eight yards so it would have actually been a 67 yard field goal uh okay all right they don't spot the ball at seven anymore they spot it at eight okay uh you might argue well of course to get it there you got to kick the ball with a little lower trajectory so that's all the more reason you need eight not seven Seven's got a better chance of getting blocked um it was just I made this comment to La as the game wound down I said defense has to win it because our offense is incapable of doing so um if we had one more first down when we possessed the ball we could have ended the game even but it was a lot to ask at that point because clearly we're not comfortable throwing the ball and we do have the clock on our side so clearly our I think our coaches felt more comfortable let's put the ball down the field and turn it over to our defense and I think you could argue we didn't execute as well the second half on defense as we needed we didn't give up a lot of yards um and um but they had gained this by I think 40 50 yards for the game um and then sadly I I thought was so little time left I think there was 40 seconds as I recall they they put two seconds back on the clock but I were thinking well they're 80 yards away or whatever it was so and I think at that point they were out of timeouts so I wouldn't even I didn't give much chance they being in feral range and yet they they managed to do it managed to get there