How Kamala Harris is calling Donald Trump on his debate dodges

ABC Debate >>> DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE DEBATE WITH VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. NOW, HE CLAIMS THE ABC NEWS DEBATE, SET FOR SEPTEMBER 10th WAS QUOTE, TERMINATED. BUT THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN SAYS THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE. A CAMPAIGN SOURCE TELLS NBC NEWS THAT IT IS THEIR T Trump Debate UNDERSTANDING THAT ABC INTENDS TO QUOTE, PROVIDE THE AIRTIME E TO WHICHEVER QUALIFYING CANDIDATES SHOW UP. DONALD TRUMP, INSTEAD, PROPOSED A DEBATE WITH HIS FRIENDS AT FOX NEWS. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID LAST NIGHT IN ATLANTA. >> YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING ONE WITH FOX IF SHE SHOWS UP. SHE CAN TALK, SHE CAN READ A TELEPROMPTER, I GIVE HER ABOUT Kamala Harris A SIX ON A SCALE OF 10. SIX. FOR TALKING I WOULD GIVE HER LESS THAN A ONE. WE NEED PEOPLE THAT CAN TALK. Eugene Daniels VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS RESPONDED QUOTE, IT IS INTERESTING HOW, ANYTIME, ANYPLACE BECOMES ONE SPECIFIC TIME, ONE SPECIFIC SAFE SPACE. JOINING US NENOW IS MSNBC POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR AND WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR E POLITICO, EUGENE DANIELS. HE IS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS ASSOCIATION. >> SO, YOU HAVE E GOT-- YOU HAV GOT-- FIRST OF ALL, FIRST OFF, CAN I JUST, CAN I JUST RESET SO EVERYONE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LESS CONFUSED ON THIS BLESSED SUNDAY MORNING. DONALD TRUMP, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS CANNOT USE A TELEPROMPTER, CAN'T TALK FOR ISH ON THE TELEPROMPTER, SO IF SHE IS AT A SIX, BABY, YOU ARE BARELY 0. >> AND HE SLURS HIS WORDS. >> YOU JUST CAN'T TALK. >> SHE IS A VICE PRESIDENT, PROSECUTOR, COME ON. >> THE REALITY OF IT IS, HE IS AFRAID, HE IS AFRAID OF THE BLACK WOMAN WHO IS NOW IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT, SO HE TRIES TO BREAK IT DOWN, HE TRIES TO MAKE IT LESS VALUABLE THAN IT REALLY IS. HOW DOES THAT-- HOW DO PEOPLE-- HOW SHOULD PEOPLE READ THIS PART OF THE NARRATIVE? BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO FOX, THERE WILL BE NO FOX DEBATE. THERE IS AN ABC DEBATE, DONALD, NOT A FOX DEBATE. BUT HOW DO YOU THINK THIS PLAYS OUT? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT THE MACHINATIONS AROUND THE DEBATE, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BEING BAD FOR THEM, MAY BE SOMETHING MORE NEUTRAL TO THEM SINCE THIS IS A RESET. >> THAT IS WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE DEBATE CONVERSATION, IT WAS JOE BIDEN AS THE PRESUMPTIVE BI NOMINEE, DONALD TRUMP WAS THE ONE WHO WAS KIND OF JUST SAYING, YES I WILL DO THAT, BECAUSE THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN CAME OUT AND-- YOU KNOW, TO BIDEN'S DETRIMENT AS A NOMINEE, OBVIOUSLY. BUT SAID THIS IS WHAT ENWE WANT TO DO ON JUNE, SEPTEMBER, WE WANT TO DO ONE WITH CNN, ONE WITH ABC. THIS IS DONALD TRUMP TRYING TO TAKE BACK THE NARRATIVE AND NOT LOOK LIKE HE IS THE PERSON THAT IS JUST LIKE BEING PULLED ALONG BY JOE BIDEN AND NOW VICE PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AT ABC ARE MOVING FORWARD AS IF THERE IS A DEBATE, THEY ARE DOING THEIR PREP, THEY ARE GETTING THEIR HORSES TOGETHER. THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER 10th. >> EVEN IF-- PARDON INME, EVEN ONLY VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS SHOWS UP? >> NOW IT IS A TOWNHALL, NOW IT IS A TOWN HALL WITH VICE PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS. SO, IF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WANTS TO SEE 90 MINUTES TO THEIR-- TO HIS OPPONENTS THAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN. I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN, THE FOLKS BEHIND THE SCENES HAVE SAID, WE WANT TO DO ABC, WE WILL TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THAT, BUT THIS-- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ABC DEBATE, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PREPPING FOR, THAT IS WHAT THE SCHEDULE ALLOWS FOR. BUT ALL OF THIS COULD CHANGE. THIS ENTIRE ELECTION HAS JUST BEEN THING AFTER THING AFTER THING CHANGING. BUT I WILL SAY, THAT THE IDEA THAT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS SCHEDULED TO BE-- SHE IS EXPOSED EXCITED TO DEBATE AND TALK WITH FOLKS AROUND HER, BOTH HER INNER CIRCLE ON THE FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT BEING READY TO DEBATE. YOU KNOW, PUTTING -- >> SHE IS A PROSECUTOR-- >> I WILL SAY SHE HAS ALSO BEEN OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, DOING THESE MANY TOWNHALL STYLE EVENTS, WHERE SHE WILL GO SOMEONE WILL BE IN CONVERSATION AND SHE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS, SO SHE IS PRIMED AND READY TO KIND OF HAVE KIND OF AN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC POLICY ISSUES. DONALD TRUMP, HE HAS BEEN DOING THESE BIG BOX-- AND I HAVE THESE QUOTES, BIG BOX, BECAUSE HE HAD HIS RALLY AT THE SAME PLACE, THE ATLANTIC YESTERDAY WHERE VICE PRESIDENT HAD HERS. >> HOW DID IT TURN OUT? >> KNOTWELL. AND DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF SAID I AM NOT HAPPY, THERE WERE A LOT OF STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS THOUGHTS HAPPENING. >> HE TELLS YOU WRITE WHAT HE IS THINKING AND I THINK THE FORMAT THAT HE HAS BEEN TAKING, HIS ENGAGEMENT ON THE CAMPAIGN N TRAIL, IT HAS NOT SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF DEBATING A-- YOU KNOW, A SEASONED DEBATER, IF YOU WILL. THAT IS WHO VICE PRESIDENT I HARRIS IS. Donald Trump HE IS CONCERNED. THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE VICE PRESIDENT TRYING TO DEFINE HER. >> SO, WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DEFINE HER, I JUST WANT TO SAY WHO SHE IS, SHE IS A HORROR SHOW, SHE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. SHE DOESN'T WANT ANYONE SAYING -- NOW SHE IS DENYING IT. YOU HAVE A CANDIDATE TO HIS FAKE, FAKE, FAKE. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WILL FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT FOR AMERICA. FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. >> HE IS JUST REPEATING WHAT THE CONSULTANTS TOLD HIM. THAT WAS AN INTERNAL CAMPAIGN: CONVERSATION SAYING, SIR, WE HAVE TO DEFINE HER, YOU HAVE TO STAY ON MESSAGE. I'VE BEEN THERE, GIVING A DIFFERENT MESSAGE. THAT IS DONALD TRUMP, HONEY. HE IS UNDISCIPLINED AND FRANKLY, A BAD CANDIDATE. >> THEY JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN AGAINST VICE PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS. THEY WERE PREPARED AND EXCITED RUN AGAINST JOE BIDEN THEY HAD THE ENTIRE PLAN, THEY THOUGHT THE ELECTION WAS OVER, AND THEY HAD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED, YOUV KNOW, AND PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS GIVING THEM PLENTY OF EVIDENCE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, HOW THEY WERE FRAMING HIM, THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME, CLEARLY FRAMING AND DEFINING, AS HE WAS PUTTING IT, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK, WE TALKED TO-- FOR PLAYBOOK WE TALKED TO BOTH REPUBLICANS KIND OF IN THEN APPARATUS ON THE CAMPAIGN AND THEY SAID WE ARE READY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME WE WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD, WE HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT IDEA, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BORDER, WHICH ISN'T TRUE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT X, Y, AND Z, BUT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING IS NOW THEY ARE BACK TALKING ABOUT HER RACE, ABOUT HER GENDER. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET HIM AWAY FROM THAT AT THIS POINT. >> SO I CAN'T-- I WAS JUST SAYING THIS, SYMONE SANDERS- TOWNSEND, DURING THIS LITTLE MEDIA , CAN WE JUST USE HIS WORDS AGAINST HIM? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T- - FOR EXAMPLE-- FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S JUST TAKE THE QUOTE WE JUST HEARD, AND THIS IS ANY OF US, INCLUDING KAMALA HARRIS IF SHE WANTS TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD, SO, WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DEFINE HIM, I DON'T WANT TO EVEN DEFINE HIM, I JUST WANT TO SAY WHO HE IS. HE IS A HORROR SHOW, HE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. HE DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY SAYING G MERRY CHRISTMAS, NOW HE IS DENYING IT. YOU HAVE A CANDIDATE, WHO IS FAKE, FAKE, FAKE. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WILL FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, OR A VICE PRESIDENT WHO WILL FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT FOR AMERICA. THIS-- THE THING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND I'M CURIOUS HOW REPORTERS COVER THIS, BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, Y'ALL LEAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ISH ON THE TABLE. Y'ALL JUSTLY TOO MUCH ON THE TABLE AND YOU TAKE WHAT THIS MAN SAYS AND IF-- A, IT IS MEANINGFUL, B, IT IS IMPORTANT, AND-- BUT FOR THAT TITLE, PRESIDENT, FORMER PRESIDENT IN FRONT OF HIS NAME, THERE'S NO WAY THIS ITERATION OF DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE A VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR DOG CATCHING, LET ALONE PRESIDENT. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ALLOW SO MUCH OF WHAT HE SAYS TO SEEP INTO OUR CULTURE AND OUR POLITICS AS NORMAL. THAT IS NOT A NORMAL QUOTE FROM A HUMAN BEING RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. HE CANNOT STRING A COMPETENT, NO COHERENT SENTENCE TOGETHER, TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS HIS POLITICAL OPPONENT, AND WE, IN THE PRESS, AND THE MEDIA AND OTHERS, LOOK AT THIS AS THIS SORT OF DOGFIGHT, THIS WHO IS AHEAD, WHO IS BEHIND RAT RACE, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THIS ACTUALLY SAYS ABOUT HOW WE HAVE FALLEN AS A COUNTRY TO ALLOW THAT CRAP EVERY DAY ON OUR AIR. THAT'S JUST ME. I DON'T KNOW. TRYING TO HAVE SOME COFFEE. EE >> JUST TAKING OUT. I MEAN, THE QUESTION ABOUT , WHETHER OR NOT-- WHAT THIS TELLS ABOUT THE COUNTRY, THAT LL IS WHY WE COME TO THE PEOPLE LIKE Y'ALL, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED IN POLITICS BEFORE, PEOPLE WHO ARE FREE TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS. I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, REPORTERS, THE COUNTRY IS NOT CONFUSED ABOUT WHO DONALD TRUMP IS, THEY WEREN'T CONFUSED ABOUT WHO JOE BIDEN WAS, THAT IS WHY PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT THIS RACE, THE RACE BETWEEN TWO OF THEM. SO WHAT WE-- >> BUT OF THE TWO OF THEM, WHY DID JOE BIDEN HAVE TO GO? >> WELL, BECAUSE PEOPLE PUSHED HIM OUT, I WILL JUST SAY THIS TO MARCO'S POINT SO, BECAUSE I DO SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, HE IS NOT A WORTHY OPPONENT TO VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, HE WASN'T A WORTHY OPPONENT, IN MY OPINION,O TO DONALD TRUMP, YET THE POLLS WERE CLOSED, I WILL SAY, THEY CONTINUE TO BE CLOSED, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY SILENCED, THERE ARE FOLKS JUST FINE WITH THE INCOHERENT SENTENCES, TO AN EXTENT, BUT I THINK PLAYING HIS SOUND AND DICTATING WHAT HE JUST -- GOING BACK OVER IT, IT IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK WE ARE MAKING IT UP, DONALD TRUMP OH, HE DIDN'T SAY THAT, Y'ALL ARE BEING DRAMATIC, HE DIDN'T NEED IT LIKE THAT.