DNC Chair Jaime Harrison: 'People will die' as a result of Trump's lies about migrants

♪♪ >>> A RACIST CONSPIRACY HAS MANY OF THE MORE THAN 1 MILLION HAITIAN AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY NOW AFRAID FOR THEIR SAFETY. IT HAS WREAKED HAVOC ON SPRINGFIELD, OHIO. SINCE TRUMP LIED ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY OF HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS, WHO ARE IN THE COUNTRY LEGALLY, FOLKS, SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN SPRINGFIELD, INCLUDING TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, HAVE BEEN THE TARGET OF BOMB THREATS. THE LIE APPEARS TO HAVE ORIGINATED FROM A THIRD HAND IN A DOE POSTED ON A PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP CHAT. THE WOMAN WHO MADE THAT POST NOW TELLS NBC NEWS SHE NEVER MEANT TO SPREAD FALSE RUMORS. BUT IT ONLY TOOK A MATTER OF DAYS FOR THAT LINE TO GO FROM THE DARKEST CORNERS OF THE INTERNET TO THE OFFICE OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. DNC CHAIR JAIME HARRISON IS BACK WITH US, ALSO JOINING THE CONVERSATION, PRESIDENT OF MEDIA MATTERS, ANGELA CARUSO. >> ANGELA, AFTER THE DEBATE, WE WERE ALL ON THE SET TOGETHER AND WE SAID THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THIS RHETORIC IS DANGEROUS. WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES. I WANT YOU TO TALK US THROUGH THAT GRAPHIC ON THE SCREEN. HOW DOES SOMETHING GO FROM A MADE UP STORY ON A PRIVATE FACEBOOK PAGE TO BEING AMPLIFIED BY THE EX-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? >> YEAH, I THINK THAT IS THE PART THAT IS MORE STRIKING. YOU SAW THAT SORT OF, YOU GET SOMEONE IN THAT FACEBOOK POST AND THAT GETS PICKED UP BY A BUNCH OF NEO-NAZI GROUPS. TELEGRAM, GAB AND OTHER PLACES TRY TO PUSH THIS STORY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU SORT OF LOSE THE ORIGINAL THREAD. NOW THEY JUST CONJURE UP OTHER PIECES TO THIS STORY. AND THEN IT STARTS TO MAKE ITS WAY OVER TO TO X AND IT PICKS UP TRASH CAN AND TAKES OFF IN EARLY SEPTEMBER IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE DEBATE, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS A COINCIDENCE. THERE IS MORE AND MORE CHATTER ABOUT IT SO YOU START TO SEE A 100% INCREASE AND THEN IT MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE FEET OF J.D. VANCE AND FROM TENDERS -- SEPTEMBER 6 TO SEPTEMBER 9, 4000% INCREASE ON X IN DISCUSSIONS AND CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE LAURA LOOMER, A PREACHER OF THE RIGHT WING FEVER MEDIA SQUAD. CERTAINLY, HE REPOSTED IT MORE THAN 800 TIMES ALONE ON TRUTH SOCIAL OR HE IS GETTING IT DIRECTLY FROM LAURA LOOMER AS THEY ARE CHATTING ON THE WAY OVER TO THE DEBATE. EITHER WAY, THIS MANUFACTURED THING GETS GINNED UP, JUICED UP BY EXTREMIST ORGANIZATIONS AND GETS AMPLIFIED AND PICKED UP BY THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE KNOWS THIS IS ORGANIZING POWER ON THE FRINGES AND THEY ARE NOT BACKING AWAY FROM IT EVEN THOUGH IT IS WIDELY DEBUNKED. THEY ARE SIDING RANDOM THINGS AND TRYING TO LEGITIMIZE AND VALIDATE IT, THE FOCUS ON THE BOGUS LIE IN THE BEGINNING. THIS IS THE CYCLE WE WILL FACE IN THE COMING WEEKS AS WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER TO ELECTION DAY. >> THIS IS, UM, IT IS SO DANGEROUS. IT IS AFFECTING OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. JD VANCE IS THE UNITED STATES SITTING SENATOR. IS NOT LIKE HE CAN'T GET INFORMATION. HE KNOWS BETTER. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF OHIO IS ONE OF THE MAIN PERPETRATORS OF THIS RACIST WHY, THIS CONSPIRACY. YOU HAVE THE CLARK COUNTY COMMISSION PRESIDENT WHO TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS ON SPRINGFIELD ON TUESDAY. SHE SAID AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER, WE GOT THE SOUNDBITE, JUST PLAY THAT. >> AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER AND EVERYONE IS STILL USING SPRINGFIELD, OHIO AS A TALKING POINT AND IMMIGRATION REFORM, WE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE LEFT TO LIVE OUT THE CHALLENGES AND FIND THE SOLUTIONS. I URGE MY FAMILY LOW CLARK COUNTY INNS TO STOP FEEDING THE FEAR AND USE YOUR ENERGY TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. THE RUMORS OF THIS INFORMATION ARE CIRCULATING NATIONWIDE AND ARE DETRACTING FROM THE REAL ISSUES WE FACE. >> THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SAID THIS HOURS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP WOULD MAKE THIS CLAIM ON THE DEBATE STAGE WHERE IT WAS AMPLIFIED TO 67 MILLION PEOPLE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST, I JUST WONDER, THE DNC HAS PUT OUT STATEMENTS, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN FORCEFULLY, YOU KNOW, BEATING BACK THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY, THIS RACIST LIE, THE RHETORIC BUT WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO? WHAT ELSE CAN ANYONE DO? THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF OHIO IS PERPETRATING THIS LINE., THEY ARE PERPETRATING THIS LIE. >> A U.S. SENATOR. >> PERPETRATING THE SLIDE. NOT JUST JD VANCE, TED CRUZ. PEOPLE COULD DIE. >> PEOPLE COULD DIE AND THEY WILL PROBABLY GET HURT AS A RESULT OF IT. JUST THINK ABOUT IT. THESE PEOPLE GET BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE, NOW THEY HAVE THE MOST POWERFUL MICROPHONE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET TO CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE THESE TYPES OF LIES. THEY WILL DO IT THIS IS WHY THIS ELECTION IS SO IMPORTANT AND WHY WE HAVE TO KEEP THESE FOLKS, DONALD TRUMP AND JD VANCE, AS FAR AWAY ON THE WHITE HOUSE AS POSSIBLE. THEY WILL BRING IN THESE OTHER FOLKS RIGHT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE TO CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE THESE TYPES OF LIES. IT HURTS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY WISH THE LAWS WERE SUCH THAT YOU CAN HIT THESE PEOPLE IN THEIR TRAN 32 POCKETBOOKS. THE SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE RECOURSE BECAUSE YOU CAUSED THIS AND THEREFORE YOU ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND YOU SHOULD PAY FOR IT. SOMETIMES THAT IS THE ONLY THING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS A LITTLE OF THAT. IT IS JUST SAD TO SEE THIS IN AMERICAN POLITICS. THE VICE PRESIDENT, THE MADAME VICE PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ADDRESSED IT, THEY ADDRESS THE EVENT AT THE WHITE HOUSE DISH YESTERDAY. WE HAVE TO ALL, PEOPLE OF GOOD WILL HAVE TO STAND UP AND CONDEMN IT AND CONDEMN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. >> ANGELA, I WANT TO RUN THIS, I WON'T GET INTO THE FACT LAURA LOOMER IS SPENDING MORE TIME WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT'S WIFE, BUT YOU HAVE THIS LIST OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES SHE HAS ADVANCED, INCLUDING HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS EAT PETS AND HUMANS. KAMALA HARRIS LIED ABOUT BEING BLACK. 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN. UKRAINIAN SPIES INFILTRATED THE CAPITOL ON JANUARY SIXTH. SCHOOL SHOOTINGS WERE STAGED OR ALLOWED TO HER CAR. CASEY DeSANTIS EXAGGERATED BREAST CANCER DIAGNOSIS. THE DEEP STATE MANIPULATED THE WEATHER AHEAD OF IOWA'S COMPASS -- CAUCUSES TO BENEFIT NIKKI HALEY. >> IT IS THE MANIPULATION OF THE WEATHER I FOUND THE EASIEST OF ALL OF THESE THINGS TO DO. [ LAUGHTER ] >> WHAT IS IT ABOUT US THAT MAKES US SO STUPID WE BELIEVE THIS TRAN 29 AND WE PUSH IT OUT AND WE ELEVATE IT UP. AS YOU NOTED IN YOUR LAST ANSWER, WE ACTUALLY GO AND TRY TO FIND COOPERATING EVIDENCE THAT THE DEEP STICK MANIPULATED THE WEATHER AHEAD OF THE IOWA CAUCUSES. UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. TO BE SO DESPERATE AND ALONE AND FORGOTTEN THAT THIS IS THE PLAYGROUND WHERE WE FEEL ACCEPTED AND BELIEVED. WHAT IS GOING ON? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LAURA LOOMER IS OF THE WORLD ARE GRAFTING, SHE IS MAKING HER MONEY, SHE'S GOT ACCESS, SHE IS ALL UP ON THE PRESIDENT. WE HAVE SEEN THE PHOTO. SHE IS ALL UP ON HER CHEST. WE KNOW WHAT HER DEAL IS. WHY ARE WE THE PEOPLE, YEAH, THAT PHOTO, THAT PHOTO. WHERE IS MELANIA? MELANIA, CHECK YOUR MAN . I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I DON'T GET WHY WE ARE SO SUSCEPTIBLE TO THIS KIND OF BS. >> IT IS A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION STARTS 30 YEARS AGO WITH FOX NEWS AND RUSH LIMBAUGH. THEY STARTED TO DECIDE WHAT WAS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT WAS DISCOURSE AND JUSTIFIED THE MEANS AND STARTED TO SOW THE SEEDS OF THIS DISTRUST, WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD THAT, THAT IS PART OF BEING AN AMERICAN BUT WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS AGO, THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE POCKETS. THEY WOULD SEND OUT NEWSLETTERS TO THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE ON THE STREET. NOW YOU HAVE POWERFUL SOCIAL MEDIA TOOLS THAT ARE CONNECTING OTHERWISE DISCONNECTED AUDIENCES. THIS STRATEGY, THE ONE THE REPUBLICANS ARE LEGITIMIZING RIGHT NOW, ORGANIZING POWER WHAT USED TO BE THE FRINGES IS SO DANGEROUS ABOUT WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT. THESE PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. IT IS GETTING AMPLIFIED THROUGH POLITICAL FIGURES. THE PURPOSE IS ACTUALLY TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE BIAS OR VIOLENCE AND THE VEHICLE FOR POLITICAL POWER. THAT IS ALL IT IS ABOUT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY BELIEVE IT, THEY ARE HOPPED UP ON MISINFORMATION. SOME PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IT BUT DON'T CARE, EITHER. LIKE TED CRUZ, THOSE OF THE WORLD ARE DOING IT SOLELY BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A POLITICAL STRATEGY TO GET POWER. THAT IS DISGUSTING AND MORE DANGEROUS. THEY ARE DOING IT FOR POWER. THAT SHOULD SCARE ALL OF US. THIS MODELS, WE JUST SAW THIS PLAY OUT IN THE UK WITH ALL THE VIOLENCE. THEY EXPLOITED THE EXTREMISTS, THEY EXPLOITED THE DISINFORMATION ONLINE AND WHEN OFF AND TARGETED MUSLIMS IN VIOLENT ATTACKS. WE NEED TO BE REALLY CONCERNED ON WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE HAVE JUST SEEN IN THE LAST WEEK IS A SMALL TASTE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. WE NEED TO PREPARE OURSELVES AND STAY LASER FOCUSED ON THE FACT THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS LONG-TERM IS TO GET OVER THE FIRST CHALLENGE IN FRONT OF US. WE HAVE TO WIN THIS ELECTION. >> THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, IT OBSCURES THE TRUTH THAT AMERICANS DO WANT SOLUTIONS ON IMMIGRATION REFORM. INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT ACTUAL SUBSIDENCE, QUALITY CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THE RIGHT WING FEVER SWAMP HAS TAKEN OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. YOU HAVE VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS SAYING SHE BELIEVES SHE OWES IT TO VOTERS TO HAVE ANOTHER DEBATE. DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING, MAYBE, IF I GOT IN THE RIGHT MOOD. I WONDER, SIR, IF YOU THINK HE WILL GET IN THE MOOD BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE STILL SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES YET TO BE HASHED OUT. >> YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP, [ LAUGHTER ] WAS SHOOK IN THAT DEBATE. [ LAUGHTER ] THIS IS A GUY WHO TRIED TO DISMISS AND DIMINISH THE VICE PRESIDENT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IN TERMS OF HER INTELLIGENCE, IN TERMS OF HER GRAVITAS. HE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, HE HAS BEEN A FAILED BUSINESSMAN, HE WAS A FAILED PRESIDENT AND HE FAILED AGAIN ON THE DEBATE STAGE AGAINST