Rep. Jasmine Crockett: ‘We are all actually under attack’

>>> ALL RIGHT, BEFORE THE BREAK , I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE DANGEROUS HISTORY OF A CURRENT REPUBLICAN LIE ABOUT ABORTION, A SUBJECT IN WHICH MY NEXT GUEST, JASMINE CROCKETT OF TEXAS, IS FAMILIAR WITH. REMEMBER, THE CASE FOR ROE V. WADE IN THE 1970s BEGAN IN TEXAS AND REPRESENTED CROCKETT'S CURRENT DISTRICT. DECADES LATER, THEY DISMANTLED THE STATE BY BECOMING THE FIRST TO NEARBY TOTALLY IMPOSED ABORTION. WHEN REPRESENTATIVE CROCKETT WAS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE, SHE WAS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN FIGHTING THE COUNTY'S ELECTION LOSS. IS CROCKETT JOINS ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND MORE. CONGRESSWOMAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THAT DEBATE SURPRISED ME, INCLUDING THE BRAZEN LIE IN OF COURSE PEOPLE EATING PETS. IT IS EFFECTIVE. DONALD TRUMP SAYS THIS STUFF. WE CAN PROVE ALL WE WANT. I TOOK EIGHT MINUTES TO PROVE THAT IS NOT TRUE, BUT IT WORKS FOR SOME PEOPLE. >> IT DOES. IT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGHT SO MANY JUST FLAT OUT LIES . WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION, HE KNOWS HE IS LYING . AND I APPRECIATE THOSE IN SOCIAL MEDIA THAT HAVE DECIDED TO LITERALLY MAKE A MOCKERY OF HIM. THERE WERE SO MANY MEMES THAT CAME OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, ON THAT DEBATE STAGE, WE SAW A MAN BE ABORTED 73 YEARS AFTER HE WAS BORN. LIKE, IT'S A DOESN'T HAPPEN. WE HAVE LAWS FOR THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, IT REMINDS ME OF THE IGNORANT THAT TYPICALLY LEADS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE KNOW THAT AT SOME TIME, THERE WAS JUSTIFICATION FOR SLAVERY, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT QUOTE, UNQUOTE WAS MAKING IS DIFFERENT , OR WHATEVER THEIR JUSTIFICATIONS WERE. IT IS THIS IDEA THAT IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, I AM THEN GOING TO LASH OUT AGAINST IT, SOMETHING WITH OUR LGBTQIA PLUS IMMUNITY. THAT IS ONE REASON AS I HIT THE TRAIL, I WAS IN OHIO AS OHIO WAS TRYING TO PASS THEIR ISSUE, AND IT DID PASS, EVEN THOUGH THEY PUT ALL OF THE OBSTACLES IN FRONT OF IT. I SAID, THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH ABORTION. AND I WANT PEOPLE TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH SAYING, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH ABORTION, BUT IF YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM, YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ON THIS BANDWAGON. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO JUDGE ME OR MAKE DECISIONS FOR ME AND MY BODY, THAT ME AND MY DAUGHTER ARE GOING TO MAKE, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THERE IS SOME FREEDOM THAT YOU HOLD DEAR THAT THERE WILL BE LIKE TO AFTER. UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THESE FREEDOMS ARE INEXTRICABLY LINKED, THEN YOU WILL NEVER END THAT WE ARE ALL ACTUALLY UNDER ATTACK, AND THAT IS WHAT WE SEE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LGBTQIA PLUS IMMUNITY, WHEN WE SEE THE ATTACKS ON OUR HISTORY, WHEN WE SEE THE EFFECTS ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION, IT IS ALL LINKED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ORGANIZATIONS, SUCH AS THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE A COMMON THREAD IN ALL OF ITS . >> AND LET'S BE CLEAR, YOU ARE A LEGISLATOR, A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, YET YOU AND I HAVE DIFFERENT RIGHTS OVER OUR OWN BODIES. I HAVE GREATER RIGHTS OVER MY BODILY AUTONOMY THAN YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES OF CONGRESS HAS RIGHT OF AS WE SPEAK. >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND ALI, WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY VERY FRUSTRATING IS, PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS AS WELL . EDUCATIONAL AND NEGATIONS. I HAVE TALKED TO MOTHERS THAT HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE I SHOULD NOT SEND MY CHILD TO GO TO SCHOOL DOWN IN TEXAS. THAT WAS SOMETHING I HAD NOT EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT. WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL SCHOOLS LIKE BAYLOR UT, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING SOME OF THE GREATEST TALENT THEY COULD HAVE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A RAPE CULTURE ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AS WELL, RIGHT ? WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY IN TEXAS, THEY ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 26,000 PREGNANCIES AS A RESULT OF RAPE THE OVERTURNING OF ROE. IT IS DEFECT THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU REDUCING ACCESS TO ABORTION, BUT YOU ARE REDUCING ACCESS TO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, YOU ARE POTENTIALLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE YOUR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT, WHAT THEY ARE SEEING IS A TREND IN A STATE LIKE TO IS, THAT IS NOT TO HAVE RIGHTS OVER MY BODY. THEY ALSO DON'T BELIEVE IN LABOR RIGHTS. IT IS LIKE, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT MANY PROTECTIONS IF YOU DO GET PREGNANT. I NEED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS ARE SO MUCH GREATER, AND WHILE YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE DECISIONS A PERSON MAKES OVER THEIR BODY, JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THIS REALLY IS ABOUT FREEDOM. >> IT IS NOT YOUR DECISIONS, IT IS THERE DECISIONS. THE FIGHT FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS HAS HAD HIS REENERGIZING OF VOTERS. WE SAW KATIE COX SPEAK OUT AFTER BEING DENIED EMERGENCY ABORTION CARE. SHE WAS FEATURED AT THE DNC. 10 STATES NOW HAVE ABORTION ON THE BALLOT THIS ELECTION, TEXAS UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT IN LOADED ON THAT LIST. HOW DO VOTERS GALVANIZE OTHER VOTERS ON THIS ISSUE? BECAUSE THIS MAY BE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THIS ELECTION, THIS MAY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY A REFERENDUM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ONE, DO WE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS, OR DO WE NOT HAVE SAME RIGHTS? >> THIS IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I HONESTLY WAS VERY NERVOUS THAT AFTER THE DOBBS DECISION CAME OUT THAT BASICALLY EVERYBODY BE LIKE OH WELL, THEY TOOK OUR RIGHTS, AND IT WOULD BE OVER WITH. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS AN OVER PERFORMANCE PACIFICALLY FROM DEMOCRATS, AND WE HAVE ALSO SEEN EVERY SINGLE STATE THIS BALLOT INITIATIVE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT THINGS ON THE BALLOT THAT WE WANT IN TEXAS IN THIS WAY. WE HAVE SEEN THESE BALLOT MEASURES PASS, EVEN IN SPACE THAT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE RED STATES. WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIPARTISAN ISSUE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS A PROBLEM. THIS IS THE BIGGEST FORM OF GOVERNMENT WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT THAT DECIDES TO DELVE INTO MY DOCTORS ROOM AS WELL AS MY UTERUS. STAY OUT. I DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT THERE. ONE OF THE POINTS I MADE IN ONE OF MY HEARINGS WE HAD ON THIS ISSUE IS, DO WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT VIAGRA? DO WE NEED TO START OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ON THAT >> AND THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES. >> NO, SERIOUSLY, EXACTLY, WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, I DO THINK THIS IS GOING TO HURT THEM. WE SAW IN THE MIDTERMS THE DEMOCRATS OVER PERFORMED. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET SWEPT OUT OF THE HOUSE. NOW GRANTED, WE ENDED UP GETTING KICKED OUT OF THE HOUSE, BUT WE DID NOT GET SWEPT OUT OF THE HOUSE. AND I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SEE A SIMILAR TYPE OF BACKLASH, ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA, WHERE THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DO THINGS LIKE LET'S RAISE THE THRESHOLD. NOW, THE THRESHOLD IS 60%. THEY HAVE ABORTION AS WELL AS EVERYONE ON THE BALLOT. I THINK THOSE WILL POTENTIALLY BE GALVANIZING ISSUES THAT HOPEFULLY MAY END UP GETTING US A NEW SENATOR IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I DO THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANS UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM. THIS IS WHY THEY DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO PULL THE NATIONAL ABORTION BAN OUT OF THEIR PLATFORM AFTER SITTING THERE FOR 40 YEARS. THEY DECIDED TO PULL IT OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSING EVERY TIME THEY TALK ABOUT IT. AND YOU SEE DONALD TRUMP, HE CAN GIVE YOU A GOOD ANSWER. HE DOES NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, WHICH TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW, AMERICA. HE WILL SIGN THE ABORTION BAN . >> AND FOR THOSE -- BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY READ THIS NONSENSE, IT IS 922 PAGES, THERE IS A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THOSE WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY WHO STILL HAVE SOME EXCESS