Simon Jordan CLASHES With Ben Shalom Over Chris Eubank Jr's Return To Action! 🔥👀 | talkSPORT Boxing

the uh focus of our attention at the moment is this incredible bill of fights over in Saudi Arabia which is very much on the horizon as well taking place in October and of course talk sport will be all over at one of those fights Ben Whitaker against Liam Cameron uh joining Simon myself and Spencer Oliver this lunchtime is a promoter boxer chief executive Ben Shalom uh Ben is funned right at the same time there um Spencer Oliver and myself both received text messages from one Billy Joe Saunders who's saying come on what about my man Louie Edmonson why Ben have you not get him fighting Ben wher on this bill in um in Riad Saudi Arabia what do you want to say to that look it's a good question and Louis Emerson's a a great fighter and a great lad and someone I like a lot and he's I'm sure that that fight does happen down the line and I want to see Louie's career developed regardless of Ben whiter I think for me Liam Cameron say what you want about Ben wh that is a huge step up to to do this after coming back seeing Liam Cameron take Lyndon after the distance lose on a I think it was a split decision Spence on on channel five headlining yeah I mean wh who's still still widely considered a prospect to take a fight like this it's a it's a huge test and and credit for Riad season again for for for getting it done as well is there any truth in in um Ben wter declining to fight Edmonson look I think Ben clearly wants the biggest nights the biggest fights the biggest payday I believe he's seen Liam Cameron and thought Liam's boxed at a higher level than me he's looking at higher level I want to prove myself I've got a measuring stick I can see Lyn and Arthur this is a test this is something where I can prove how good I really am but what I'm getting at Ben is that Wier hasn't ducked Edmonson here Whitaker will fight anyone but it has to make sense for him Whitaker is looking up as every fighter does and saying who's the next name who's the next fight that's going to increase my pedigree increase my resume so of course he's going to have Fighters calling him out whether it's Louis Edmonson but every day he has Fighters calling him out so he is that guy and it's going to be like that for the next couple of years and and he'll take the fights that make most sense for his development listen I think Louis Emon is a great fighter is a good fight down the road for Ben Whitaker and I'm sure that fight will happen but for Ben Whitaker to step up and fight Liam Cameron now you've got to give him props for that because that is a huge step up yes Ben is the Golden Boy turning over and and the one that everyone's talking about but Liam Cameron is no pushover he pushed um Lyon ARA to a split decision last time out he's a former Commonwealth Champion very much on a high at the moment and it's a huge huge step up for um Ben Whitaker for sure look it was on his hit list and I was a bit you know when he said I want Liam Cameron next you know as a promoter with with with a talent like Ben and knowing that I want him to develop and knowing I want him to headline he's not headline to show you I thought this was a this was this was a huge indicator of of where we're going and um yeah I think I think oober 12 is is going to show a lot about how good Ben Whitaker is and credit to Liam Cameron because he has been through the mill right or wrongly had a long time out of the sport and has come back worked hard and got a huge opportunity and he will come game as anything and and lucky to take Ben Whitaker's head off Ben Eubank Jr Chris Eubank Jr fights his fellow Camille zaretta but but is there not a bigger challenge out there for him is there not a world title challenge out there for him Ben under your good self yeah I've seen a lot of this um obviously he's a huge name there's a lot of opinions around what does when he does it who he fights and rightfully so he's never he's never won a World title and his talent deserves to win a world title with with with hard work you have to just look at it plain and simple he's at his age he needs activity he's been out the ring nearly a year I still think this is a good fight to come back to a guy that's only lost to M and Golovkin a guy that's coming to win a guy that's going to stick it on him and to be honest I'm just so grateful that he's back in the ring one of the biggest stars in British boxing this is going to give him the momentum the platform to take those big fights to take the big fights on his terms and uh yeah I think people have to understand when you've been out of the ring a year you're going to want to get back in and I think this is a good test and I think to be honest British boxing fans should be happy we have we have Chris Eubank Jr back think Eubank Jr should be doing bigger things than this yeah I do but I understand the reasons why he isn't I understand the reasons why he hasn't taken the potential offer of the Canelo fights that was potentially in the makings because your best version of yourself and if you're going to go in and try and win a world title if that's what your motivation if it's your motivation is to get paid to play some more pokeon tell us all about Las Vegas Villa then you can go in and fight Canelo and lose and pick also just H what Simon said there a lot of Fighters probably would just take Canelo on six weeks notice for for the money that they shouldn't get Chris wants to win that fight he's going into fights to win he's ambitious he's not coming for like I think people think baby he's he's so money hungry it doesn't make sense no if he was that money hungry and that desperate for money he'd take a few million and he'd go and fight Canelo on six weeks notice and not be prepared he want win double dip in Sai by taking an easy fight get get get get his star shining in Sai and get paid twice for being in yeah but but I think that you know what what Ben's saying there is you know when you fight someone like Canelo to a fight of that magnitude you go you want to be best prepared for that especially at Eubank stage of his career what is he 34 years of age he's in the Twilight been scatching his ass for 12 months for him yeah no but what I'm saying is you have to be best he's only been given six weeks notice the fight hadn't he been doing nothing for 12 months what does that matter though when you only get six weeks notice you the choice is you could have had plenty of two up fights during that per there there's reasons for behind the scenes you know people have their own issues there's reason why he's not boxed not because he doesn't want to box and so I think he wants to go into Canelo fight to win and and and that's the plan and this will prepare him for for the big nights he's not going in there to live and and he wants to be paid properly and when he when he's get when he's getting offered more money for other fights other than Canelo you have to have alarm Bells Canelo is the the biggest fight in boxing but boxer Chris EU Bank brings the Charisma and brings some heat and some noise and it's good it's good for Ben as for for boxing he's gone in twice against World title holders and he's lost both times so he's lost to Billy Joe Saunders he's lost to George Gro unless there's a creative opportunity or a created opportunity I don't see Chris Ubank Jr winning a world title and I certainly don't see him winning a world title against Canelo but to give him an opportunity if indeed he wants that opportunity rather than endlessly listing out the fact he wants to fight uh Canelo or he wants to fight Connor Ben or he wants to fight this person and never actually having these fights to get the best version of him he does need a few more fights is there an argument Ben as Simon is suggesting that Eubank Jr is to a degree marking time no absolutely abolutely not I think Chris has his biggest spes ahead of him when when when Simon talks about every time he steps up he's lost let's just break that Billy Joe S Billy Joe Saunders that fight was early on in his career it was a very close fight Billy Joe Joe is a is a unbelievably talented fighter and Chris came on very strong towards the end of that fight it was extremely close George Gro was at Super middleweight George Gro was at Super middleweight at 168 against a very very big man and a very very close fight yes he's lost twice in in in situations that played out he wouldn't have come through and he lost Liam Smith like middle he's he's then he's then made up for that and and and I think chrisan Jr is a phenomenal talent I believe he will he will win a world title I think we're going to see his biggest fights over the next 18 months always fight fans getting in touch with us when we're on air h no name on this one what top fighter like Eubank Jr takes a warm-up fight none he's he's not a top fighter he said Ben shalom's pants down here for a big purse it's an easy fight the rest is history I mean many people are thinking I think along similar lines to Simon get him in there for the big ones now he's been around long enough you know get get him in there but you're saying he's got reasons for taking the fight that he's taking in October I think look it's it's disrespectful to call Zera a warmup fight this is a this is a guy as I said that's taken that's taken two losses in his career to Golovkin and mongia I think it's a good fight it's not the big name that we want to see him in with and we will see him in with but as I say he's had a lot going on he's been out the ring in over 12 months I'm glad to see him back because it means we're going to get the big facts Ben does the road map for Chris Eubank Jr see him boxing for a world title within the next 12 months yes but equally and and I'm just being completely transparent he wants the biggest names we've seen his hit left we've seen him we've seen Billy Joe talking about a comeback we've seen Connor Ben perhaps return we know he wants the Canelo fight we know Crawford might look at moving up to middleweight as well so those will take precedence um and those big names will take precedence but he wants to win a world title at 160 and I can see it and there's possible fights there to be made against Lara that was talked about and Adams as well so as I say he wants to achieve everything that everyone wants him to achieve that everyone want sees his talent and and believes he can achieve and he's got 18 months to two years to to go and do that in in his okay Ben thank you very much indeed we heard from boxer chief executive Ben Shalom on the fact that Chris Eubank Jr will fight on that bill in October in Riad um many of you out there are saying to his time up he's got to be having a a world title fight by now and if not why not um there's Rob guys you're making excuses for Eubank Jr his career's getting boring now there's another one spener Eubank Jr he's a big name because of his dad's Legacy but it's boring now guys I've no desire to see him fight to to be honest I mean does this come through to you Spencer but you bang junor there's a frustration amongst certain fight fans absolutely listen we do need to see him in a world title shot and and we need to see that very very soon I understand where he's sat right now we're saying he didn't want the Canelo fight because he's been 13 months out and there is an argument there Simon's one that will argue argue about that saying listen it's about opportunity you got to take them them opportunities and he hasn't taken it he's tries to take his own path he's going out to Saudi he's going to get this fight it's a it's a very winnable fight you know he's a tough guy tough campaigner but no world beater he gets to win here and then we need to see him in that big fight with that big name he has to box for a world title I don't I don't think the public will accept anything but okay Spencer we shall see on am on da via the talk sport app and on your smart speaker talk sport