Analyzing Kamala Harris, Tim Walz's first joint interview

OFFENSE WAS COMMITTED AGAINST. HE HAS BEEN RELEASED ON A $25,000 BAIL. >>> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS BACK IN WASHINGTON AFTER COMPLETING HER TWO-DAY BUS TOUR IN GEORGIA. SHE HELD A RALLY IN SAVANNAH YESTERDAY AND CALLED HERSELF THE UNDERDOG IN THIS RACE. LET'S TAKE THE PULSE OF THE RACE BY BRINGING IN A POLITICAL ANALYST LIZZIE SANCHEZ. SHE IS A CBS NEWS POLITICAL PANELISTS AND REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS. JOEL IS A DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER. SO I ACTUALLY WANT TO START WITH THE INTERVIEW ON CNN YESTERDAY. WHAT WAS IT THAT KAMALA HARRIS AND HER RUNNING MATE NEEDED TO DO YESTERDAY AND DID THEY ACCOMPLISH IT? >> WHAT SHE NEEDED TO DO WAS TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS OF REINTRODUCING HERSELF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. OF COURSE SHE IS NOT AN UNKNOWN ENTITY. PEOPLE KNOW THE NAME KAMALA HARRIS BUT THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW COMING INTO THE PROCESS OF THE LAST SIX WEEKS WHO SHE ACTUALLY IS POLITICALLY. SHE DID A GOOD JOB OF LAYING OUT WHO SHE IS AT HER CONVENTION AND IN THE LEAD UP TO THAT CONVENTION AND I THINK THIS INTERVIEW GIVE A DEEPER OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HER GOVERNING PHILOSOPHY AND THE FACT THAT SHE WILL BE PRAGMATIC AND THAT HER VALUES ARE UNCHANGED ON THINGS WHERE IT MAY SEEM LIKE SHE HELD A DIFFERENT POSITION PREVIOUSLY BUT THE POSITION IS SIMILAR AND THE SOLUTION SHE IS SEEKING IS DIFFERENT. I THINK THAT WORK WAS DONE IN A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY AND IT POSITION THE VICE PRESIDENT AS SOMEONE WHO IS IDENTIFIABLE WITH THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT MIND WHEN THE POLITICIANS CHANGE THEIR MIND AS LONG AS THERE IS A REASON AND A RATIONALE THEY CAN BE DEMONSTRATED TO IMPROVE THEIR LIFE AND I THINK THAT SHE DID A DIFFICULT THING IN THAT INTERVIEW AND THAT IS NOT THE LAST TEST TO SHOW FACE IN THAT ROOM BUT I THINK SHE DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB IN THAT INTERVIEW WE SAW LAST NIGHT >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WATCHED THE SAME DEBATE OR THE SAME INTERVIEW. I WOULD SAY WERE VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR IS SOMEONE TO RENEW REMOVE THE VENEER AND FUNDAMENTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY BELIEVE IN. IS SHE IN CHARGE OF THE CAMPAIGN WHERE IS THE CAMPAIGN IN CHARGE OF HER? THERE'S A LOT OF ARTIFICE AND PAGEANTRY AROUND ROLLING OUT A NEW PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE READ LIKE THE SCRIPTED SPEECHES OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION AND TELEPROMPTERS EVERYWHERE SHE GOES. IT REALLY LOOKS AT A LOT OF THOSE FLIP-FLOPS THAT CAN GO THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT FRACKING BORDER SECURITY AND INFLATION TO SEE WHERE AND HOW SHE HELD HER ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE AND TO SOME EXTENT SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS LEFT VOTERS WANTING MORE ESPECIALLY WITH THE ECONOMY. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE 9.1 IN UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHERE WAS THAT RESPONSE? AND I LIKE THAT IDEA BUT WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? YOU REMEMBER THAT GEORGE BUSH TALKS ABOUT CONSERVATISM AND IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO ARTICULATE THIS TO THE VOTERS. THERE BROAD EFFORTS TRYING TO SWIPE AWAY AT A PREVIOUS RECORD IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET AWAY FROM AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE CHALLENGE FOR ANY INTERVIEW MOVING FORWARD. >> I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT SHE SAID SHE WOULD PUT A REPUBLICAN IN HER CABINET. WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE? >> WHAT THIS DOES IS IT BECOMES AN OLIVE BRANCH TO THE OTHER SIDE. IT SIGNALS LOOK I'M WILLING TO BE OPEN AND FIND COMPROMISE. YOU'VE HEARD EVEN FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP TALK ABOUT THE SAYING I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE GOVERNMENT PAYING FOR IVF COVERAGE. IT'S THAT MOVE LOOKING AT WHAT IS SO HARD ON EITHER SIDE THAT THERE IS A COMPROMISE LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE IN WASHINGTON. AND IT IS REALLY UP TO THE VOTERS TO SEE IF THIS WILL FUNDAMENTALLY WORK. >> LESLIE IS MY FRIEND HERE BUT THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT SHE IS SAYING IS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND HIM TALKING ABOUT IVF AND IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THIS PLATFORM WHICH IS THE FETAL PERSONHOOD AMENDMENT IS DIRECTLY AT ODDS WITH WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT IVF. J.D. VANCE VOTED AGAINST THE PRINCIPLES THAT HE ALLEGEDLY LAID OUT AGAINST IVF. EVEN HIS POSITIONING YESTERDAY TALKED ABOUT HOW HE WOULD VOTE RATHER HE DIDN'T SAY HE WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE MEASURE BUT HE SAID HE THOUGHT SIX WEEKS WASN'T ENOUGH BUT THEN HIS CAMPAIGN HAD TO WALK IT BACK LATER. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE THE EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT VOTERS ARE GOING TO GIVE THESE CANDIDATES SPACE TO DO. THEY EXPECT THEM TO BE EVOLVED AND TO GROW. WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE IS PANDERING OR IN GENUINE OR DISINGENUOUS PANDERING AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THAT FROM DONALD TRUMP RECENTLY. YES SHE IS INVOLVED BUT IT STILL FITS WITHIN THE NARRATIVE THAT SHE IS TELLING. AND THAT'S WHAT THESE CAMPAIGNS ARE FIGHTING OVER OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. >> I HAVEN'T GONE TO THE TRUMP ENTRANCE WEBSITE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE PLATFORM ABOUT THIS. BUT IT DID SORT OF FEEL LIKE IVF CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. WITH VERY LITTLE EXPECTATION ON HOW YOU WOULD PAY FOR SOMETHING QUITE THAT EXPENSIVE. SO THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION AND IT'S A VERY CURIOUS RACE. THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT WHO IS MORE OF AN INCUMBENT IN THIS RACE. DONALD TRUMP LAST NIGHT TRIED TO TIE HARRIS TO PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR THREE AND HALF YEARS. SHE ONLY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE JOB THAT THEY HAVE DONE, HE IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY AND SHE IS THE WORST VICE PRESIDENT. >> EVEN LAST NIGHT IN THE INTERVIEW THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THESE YOUR POLICIES YET FOR YEARS TO DO IT. AND I THOUGHT WHILE SHE WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND NOT THE PRESIDENT. AND I THINK THE AUDIENCE IS SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO GET THAT. DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS A WINNING ARGUMENT FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT TO MAKE? >> THE INTERESTING PART OF THE ARGUMENT IS THAT SHE SAYS I STAND ALONE ON MY BELIEFS. BUT THEY ARE TO THE LEFT OF PRESIDENT BIDEN. WE KNOW HER ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREER, SHE IS BEEN EXTREMELY PROGRESSIVE PICKING UP THESE KIND OF WEST COAST LIBERAL POLICIES IN CALIFORNIA. ON EVERY ISSUE FROM THE ECONOMY TO THE RULING GOVERNMENT TO TAXES AND TAXING THE WEALTH AND THE BORDER. PROVIDING DRIVERS LICENSE AND DECRIMINALIZING UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE SWINGING BACK TO THE MIDDLE AND SAYING THE BIDEN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION AND I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AND TAKE ON THESE POLICIES BUT THEN YOU SAY WHY WASN'T REALLY IN CONTROL EVEN THOUGH I WAS LAST PERSON IN THE ROOM. THE DUPLICITY OF THAT. I MEAN YOU HAVE TO WRITE DOWN THE WHOLE MAP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY SHE WAS INVOLVED IN WHAT SHE WAS NOT INVOLVED IN. AND THAT IS THE TROUBLE IN A COMPRESSED ELECTION CYCLE. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PEEL THE ONION AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE BUYING HERE FOR THE FUTURE? IT IS A DIFFICULT TASK AND DESPITE ALL OF THAT SHE IS STILL ON PAR PICKING UP THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS AND SOME OF THE NEVER TRUMPER'S HAVE COME TO HER SIDE. IT SHOWS YOU QUITE A DIFFICULT TASK AHEAD. BUT ON THE ISSUES OF BORDER AND ECONOMY SHE WILL HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME SAYING THAT SHE WAS NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM. >> JOE I WILL GIVE YOU THE FINAL WORD. >> I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE MISREADING THE SITUATION. I EVEN THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP IS MISREADING IT. PEOPLE LIKE JOE BIDEN'S IDEAS. AND THEY LIKED THE TONE OF GOVERNANCE THAT HE SET. WHAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE IS THAT HE WAS A HOLD. THAT'S WHAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE. THEY MADE THAT CLEAR. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY DON'T LIKE? DONALD TRUMP IS OLD AT ANY TALKING ABOUT THE PAST. HE WANTS TO TAKE COUNTRY BACKWARDS. I DON'T THINK THE VOTERS THOUGHT JOE BIDEN HAD EVERY GREAT IDEA AND HAS EVERY RESULT BEEN WHAT THEY WANTED BUT THEY LIKE THAT TONE OF GOVERNANCE. AND I THINK THAT KAMALA HARRIS IS READING THE ELECTRIC CORRECTLY THAT THERE IS SPACE FOR HER TO CONTINUE SOME OF THAT APPROACH WHILE TWEAKING THE OUTCOMES AND SOLUTIONS. SHE IS TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT AND DONALD TRUMP IS TALKING ABOUT