Israel expert reveals the ‘only way’ to push back on Iran’s nuclear talks

MARIA: WELCOME BACK. NOW TO ISRAEL, THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES ANNOUNCING THE RESCUE OF ONE OF THE HOSTAGES TAKEN DURING HAMAS' OCTOBER 7th ATTACK ON ISRAEL. KAYED, 52-YEAR-OLD FATHER OF 11, WAS RESCUED IN WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS A COMPLEX OPERATION IN THE SOUTH GAZA STRIP ON TUBES HE WAS UNUSUALLY CAPTURED WHILE WORKING AS A SECURITY GUARD. ISRAEL REMAINS ON HIGH ALERT AS IRAN PROMISES RETALIATION, RETALIATORY ATTACKS AFTER THE KILLING OF HAMAS' LEADER IN TEHRAN WEEKS AGO. WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR JOHN KIRBY REAFFIRMED THE U.S.'S SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL SHOULD IRAN ATTACK. WHILE A DELEGATION IS IN TALKS FOR A POTENTIAL CEASE FIRE. JOINING ME NOW IS RAIL AM A BASS DOOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS. GOOD TO SEE YOU. YOUR REACTION TO ALL THAT'S TAKEN PLACE. >> FIRST, IT WAS A MIRACLE. WE HAD A HOSTAGE WITHIN THE TUNNEL BY HIMSELF. ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE HEARD HEBREW. WE HAD A SPECIAL OPERATION UNIT LOOKING IN THE TUNNEL FOR HOSTAGES. HE APPROACHED THEM, HE SPEAKS ARABIC AND HEBREW AND HE SPOKE WITH HIM IN HE HEBREW AND THEY RESCUED HIM, TOOK HIM ON A HELICOPTER TO THE HOSPITAL. IT HE WAS A MIRACLE. MARIA: WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHY HE WAS IN THE TUNNEL ALONE, DIDN'T HAVE HAMAS SOLDIERS AROUND HIM. >> WE'RE WORKING TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WERE WITH HIM OR NEXT TO HIM. UNFORTUNATELY, HE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE HE KNEW THAT DIED WITH HIM IN CAPTIVITY AND EVERY DAY THAT PASSES IT'S HORRIBLE FOR THE HOSTAGES, WE HAVE 108 HOSTAGES, WE ARE PRAYING FOR THEM. WE HAVE BABIES, GIRLS, WOMEN, THAT ARE SUFFERING ONGOING ADVERSITY, IT'S HORRIBLE. MARIA: WE WERE LOOKING AT A VIDEO OF HIM ACCEPTING A CALL% FROM PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU ON HIS SAFETY. SO THAT WAS THAT VIDEO, THERE HE IS TALKING TO BIBI NETANYAHU. YOU CALLED FOR THE SECURITY COUNCIL TO FORCE A RESOLUTION TO DISARM THE TERRORIST GROUP IN LEBANON. HAVE YOU HEARD BACK? >> I DID. TODAY THE U.N. WILL VOTE ABOUT OUR RESOLUTION IN THE SECURITY COUNCIL. THEY CANNOT NAME HEZBOLLAH. IT'S VAGUE IN THE U.N. THEY CALL FOR BOTH SIDES TO RESTRAIN. I DON'T GET IT. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL, HOW CAN YOU IGNORE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NORTHERN PART OF ISRAEL. WE HAVE 10 MILLION ISRAELIS THAT ARE DISPLACED, DON'T GO TO WORK, DON'T GO TO SCHOOL. COMPARE IT TO THE U.S., IMAGINE 3.5 MILLION AMERICANS WHO CAN NOT GO TO THEIR HOMES. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU HAD A NEIGHBORING COUNTRY ATTACKING YOU. WE CAN'T CONTINUE WITH THAT. IF THE U.N. WILL NOT PUSH THE HEZBOLLAH FROM THE BORDER WE WILL DO IT OURSELVES. MARIA: THE U.N. WILL NOT NAME HEZBOLLAH AS THE GROUP THAT CREATED THIS AND CONTINUES THIS FIGHTING. >> NO, THEY WILL IGNORE IT. MARIA: WHY? BECAUSE OF IRAN? >> I WILL EXPOSE TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL THAT HEZBOLLAH USES THE U.N. TO LAUNCH ROCKETS FROM U.N. FACILITIES. SO WE HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE U.N. BUT THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR JOB. THEY'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS ON THE MISSION IN LEBANON. THEY SHOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE. MARIA: A FORMER OBAMA OFFICIAL TOLD FOX NEWS DIGITAL TAKE KAMALA HARRIS WOULD SIGN A SIMILAR AGREEMENT WITH TEHRAN IF SHE WINS THE WHITE HOUSE. IRAN'S SUPREME LEADER IS SIGNALING A WILLINGNESS TO RESTART NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES. IS THAT THE REASON YOU SEE THE U.S. SAY THEY'RE SUPPORTING ISRAEL BUT PERHAPS NOT DO THE SAME THINGS ONE WOULD EXPECT IF YOU'RE SUPPORTING ISRAEL, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET ANOTHER IRAN DEAL? >> WE EXPECT MORE PRESSURE AGAINST IRAN PERIOD FROM THE U.S., FROM THE EUROPEAN ALLIES. NOT ONLY THE DECLARATION, BUT REAL PRESSURE, SANCTIONS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE SANCTIONS, THEY ARE OUT MORE MONEY. WITH THE MONEY THEY FEED PROXIES, FEED HEZBOLLAH, HOUTHIS, HAMAS. IF YOU WANT TO STOP THE PROXIES, YOU HAVE TO STOP IRAN. MARIA: A STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON DID SAY THAT IRAN MUST STOP ITS ESCALATION AND COOPERATE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY BEFORE ANY NEGOTIATIONS CAN CONTINUE. I'M QUESTIONING WHY WE'RE HAVING THESE NEGOTIATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHAT IS THIS OBSESSION WITH GETTING BACK TO AN IRAN DEAL, A NUCLEAR DEAL THAT THE U.S. SEEMS TO HAVE? >> THEY LIED SO MANY TIMES. YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO THE DAY WITH THE NEW CLEAR AMBITIONS. WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO ACHIEVING THE CAPABILITIES THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE. I THINK WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SANCTION REGIME. THAT'S ONLY WAY TO PUSH THEM BACK. YOU KNOW, APRIL 14th THEY SENT HUNDREDS OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL. IMAGINE THEY HAD THE NUCLEAR CAPABILITY. WE CANNOT ALLOW IT. WE CAN'T WAIT AND A SEE, MAYBE THEY WON'T USE IT. WE'RE DETERMINED TO STOP IRAN FROM ACHIEVING NUCLEAR AMBITIONS. WE NEED THE U.S.'S SUPPORT. MARIA: HOW WOULD ASSESS THE U.S.'S SUPPORT FOR IAEL. >> WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE PRESENCE OF U.S. MILITARY IN THE REGION, IT PRESENTS POWER AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN THE REGION. BUT WE ARE FIGHTING THE BAD GUYS. WE'RE FIGHTING THE ENEMIES OF THE U.S. WE DON'T EXPECT THE U.S. TO FIGHT FOR US BUT WE NEED THE U.S. TO STAND WITH US, IN TERMS OF AMMUNITION, IN SUPPORT. IN THE U.N. THEY DON'T SPEAK ABOUT THE WAR BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE. THEY GANG AGAINST US. WE NEED THE U.S. WITH US. MARIA: YOU MENTIONED 108 HOSTAGES STILL BEING HELD IN CAPTIVITY. WHAT IS RAIL'S PLAN TO GET -- IS ISRAEL'S PLAN TO GET THE HOSTAGES BACK. TELL ME WHERE THE CEASE FIRE TALKS ARE AND WHAT THE PLAN IS FROM YOUR STANDPOINT. >> WE ARE WORKING ON BOTH FRONTS, FIRST THE MILITARY IS MOVING. WHAT WE SAW YESTERDAY, WE SAW THEM IN THE TUNNELS LOOKING FOR HOSTAGES. WE SENT THE TEAM TO NEGOTIATE. WE'RE WILLING TO PAY HEAVY PRICES TO RECEIVE HOSTAGES BACK BUT HAMAS, EVERY TIME WE SEAL THE DEAL THEY SAY NO, WE REJECT IT. WE HAD FIVE ROUNDS THAT WE BELIEVE IT'S A DONE DEAL. THE U.S. SAYS THAT'S IT. AND THEN HE'S STILL ALIVE, NOT FOR LONG, I BELIEVE, THEY SAY NO, WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE. MARIA: WHAT DO THEY WANT? >> I THINK THEY WANT TO STAY IN POWER. WE CAN'T ALLOW THAT. AT THEND OF THE DAY, HAMAS WILL NOT BE IN POWER IN GAZA. I EXPRESSED THIS AT THE U.N. SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT ISRAEL, THEY CARE ONLY ABOUT THE SUFFERING OF THE PALESTINIANS IN GAZA. I SAID IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS IN GAZA, YOU SHOULD TAKE A PATH WITH HAMAS. I THINK THE MAIN OBSTACLE IS HAMAS WANTS TO GET GUARANTEES THAT THEY WILL STAY IN POWER AND WE DON'T ACCEPT IT. MARIA: REALLY IMPORTA