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e what's going on people it's Mr do back here again and yes bloody one away feel so great people how's everyone feeling god um if you're new to my Channel please hit the like button subscribe if you're new and comment below if you'll get involved with topics that myself and the panel I'm going to speak about we are heading to Europe we are heading to um wherever um I feel like we're going to I don't know St Port Europe here we come I'm I'm excited everyone get your passports I think we are we Fifth Fifth in the league or six I don't know where we are in the league but we're going to Europe H oh we're still in Europe we're still in Europe what Champions League to conference League without kicking a ball yeah so people get involved um so we have a nice speak about yesterday's Victory like I said people hit the like but subscribe if you're new get and get involved right let's get the panel in first of all U we start with the the youngest here Mark I are you feel Mark you say the youngest the youngest yeah feeling really good after yesterday yeah really happy good uh we've got the the brainest Stephen how you doing Stephen thanks Ben yeah I'll take that like I take the three points yesterday thank you sampton and we've got some guy you just just F call the stream and just yeah what if you whatever he is these days Dez old him yeah how you doing how you doing Dez where's my compliment um what too much too much compliments I'm good I'm good I'm tired we just saying we how hard work Southampton away is you know we're not complaining we got the win but it's a long long day D all in one day tend to do those trips overnight if I can help it but yeah really really good day feeling really tired today just uh glad the football's back on good like said people get involved as well um like I said fantastic win for forest and um like I said there's lot to talk about um um like before we do start said I keep mentioning it de is doing his Coast to Coast run I think he's raised 4,000 something now um the link is at top of the link so if anyone wants to donate towards de it could be to p a pound anything please do and if you want to Super Chat towards my channel as well please get involved as well right let's start about yesterday's performance one0 win let me get de Holden first um Dez how you feel about a great one0 win um obviously really pleased you know I said to you when we spoke on Friday before the game that I felt that it was important to get the win do you know after last dropping those points last week I feel if we'd have dropped any points especially from a winning position yesterday it would have been a bit of a a drama you know not that it would have been but on on the face of it you know we have started the season quite poorly with with the nature of the fixtures so picking up three points away from home it doesn't matter who it is you know is um Priceless at the moment and I said at the end of my small report uh after the game you know now if we go and beat wolves next week we we turned a a a good start into a really good start um despite what happened against Bournemouth I felt in terms of yesterday's game I thought Southampton were really poor you know really really poor let's put it into a bit of perspective and I think I'll be the uh pragmatic one throughout the show and doing that you know when it comes to certain things um they were don't say much Dez don't you know what you're like Dez keep it no I'm joking see what want no they they were they they were poor you know I was expect I I was quite intrigued to see them I talk myself into sort of wondering what they was all about after dismissing them in the way that they proved um early on during the week I'd almost sort of talked them up a little bit and was looking forward to kind of witnessing an unknown entity to some agree we we know a little bit more about Leicester because they're local and ips switch because they come up with in a blaze of glory but Southampton kind of went under the radar but really really disappointed with them fores really took the game to them pressed high up the pitches i' almost asked them to do when we spoke on Friday you know push them back I think in similar ways to the Bournemouth game we tired second half you know almost no we didn't let them back into it as such I still felt for were comfortable in the main but they they got themselves further up the pitch and started to play some of their football so it's more of a football match in terms of would they really come back into it and as the gate we got that goal and that really just knocked the stuffing out of them in the end of fa apart from a little bit of a a last five minutes kind of onslaught which you're always going to get if you're way from on one n up I thought F were comfortable good value for the win the first half performance especially I felt the the win was ours if anybody was going to win it was definitely his you know and then it's always nice you know I'm a massive Fanboy Gibbs white you know and it's always nice to see him score the winning goal and and sort of repay some of that big transfer for as well so yeah it's h all Rosy isn't it in in the world of forest this week after the doom and gloomer conceding that one last week um Mark went to the game as well like I said big three points with Mark and um what was your opinion on game yeah pretty similar to Dez really I really enjoyed the first half and we were playing a very high press for most of the half which really you know quite surprised me it was almost like when we got to half time it was like how are we not in the lead um but yeah we we kept them pinned back in their half and it we just look look to be lacking a bit of a clinical finish up front um I expected them to come out and and go out as a bit better in the second half especially with it being nil nil um and I knew they they'd make some changes and we'd have to react to that uh but they didn't they didn't look really threatening at all you know apart from uh is it Walker Peters and yeah ancient Diaz down the left hand side when when they got the ball out there that was the most threatening they really look um you know I expected a bit more from their front line I don't know whether it helped helped him or not getting booked after about 10 minutes Armstrong um and he seemed to do nothing at all after that but you know we were we were really confident first half second half it looked a bit like we were dropping back into our shell again um playing a bit too deep but then the goal changed that so y Yates Ryan Ryan y just I just thought bit um cough there just sorry sorry Mark sorry disturb you no you're just about finished on on that point okay um got to mindel D um from watching watching it from the Wales how did you feel about the game um yeah pretty much what the B boys just said really um what I'm liking now is take away what happened with Bournemouth we did TI slightly in the second half which you're never going to control a game for 90 minutes um the first half what I'm starting to see is with stamping auor young games now where cl's gone by maybe since we've gone to the Premier League obviously I know the first year we G to integrate into the league but we s we've been slow starters we've let the other teams dictated to us but it's good to see you know even against Bournemouth we are on top of teams we High Press and you know I was uh because I work with a lot of Swansea fans we know the Russell Martin history we're talking in the week and I say we got samp and say look you just press high up the pitch against his teams and you can force errors which I felt we did and like de said it was good to see that we played that game plan which Russell Martin tries to play from the back they never go along and we forc the errors and it was good to see we played with such a high press if we let if we had let them dictate the ball then they would have caused problems I felt they were quite so I thought they offered nothing bar which I felt we were in control by when uh they brought the left back on used to play for leads Charlie Taylor Taylor he yeah he give him a bit of width and he he P one dangerous ball in about five minutes towards the end which a scooped up into the air which my heart was in my mouth a bit there and I think that was the only time I really kind of went all hello but we were we were good value for the win comfortable we come into individual performances I'm sure soon but for me it just I I felt if we scored a second one I think we would have won three or four um I think yeah Ben really just happy really like like we did Tire um they did come on to us I felt the Midfield I'm sure we'll get on to the Midfield in a bit I felt uh Flyn DS started get on the ball a little bit too much of my liking so a bit of a peer in the second half but we're just glad they had nothing up top they offered nothing so I think Matt sells will have an easier game for a while to be honest with him um but overall overall happy Ben um Dad we want to line up because I think everyone questioning who's going to play along Tai SAR Anon came on was you happy with um nuno's selection absolutely I spoke at length about the Midfield on on Friday when we spoke before the game in the preview you you put out um really wanted see Anderson you asked me the question would I play Anderson or Yates and I I gave a case for both but said i' I'd love to see Anderson play and and W which would help us play the way we did do you know sort of when we got the ball Take It Forward move it quick move it a bit more quicker um of course we Anderson had a really good game I felt you know so that was a Justified pick um milenovic all week I said i' I'd go in my mind obviously it's not up to me but as a fan had just accept nuno's decision on him and Bal you don't as far as we don't go around signing 12 million center backs and don't play them so whilst I think while had done nothing wrong you know really happy thought his performance was good spoke to you before you know we just got to be a little bit cautious a lot of people are getting a little bit carried away with milenovic you know Southampton were that bad he didn't have much to do what I did like from milenovic was the um the last five minutes the barar he put his head on everything you know and that's that's something I really really like to see Defenders doing you know as a Defender when I played football who headed the ball a lot I like to see that you know rather than some of the modern stuff where like what Southampton do and get you into trouble you know he's he's a bit more non nonsense than that but I felt when it when now now we're sort of talking into the tactics and the team I thought Murillo put out a really strong performance so whilst milenovic was getting the headlines I thought that was probably Murillo's most mature performance we touched on Armstrong there and the fact he got booked he didn't have a kick you know and again I mentioned him on Friday quite looking forward to seeing him he scores backfall in the championship and I'm wondering when he's going to adjust but it looks like he isn't and and him and um Bron Diaz playing wide didn't really sort of put our defense under any pressure so from movish I'm just again I'm not being negative about I'm being absolutely positive I love what I saw but I think some of the fans you know it's easy easy to turn out let's not get carried away but people do get carried away stepen that's Steven st's gonna in the first half um they got nowhere near as they didn't even get out their final third you know it was so easy sangar got a bit of credit again he was terrible he was absolutely terrible on and off the ball yesterday you know and but he had a little bit more time in that first half once they came into the game once Flynn Downs as Steve Steve said got on the ball you know someone else I was quite looking forward to seeing with the reputation he's got and he his his connections through West Ham and that kind of thing um looking forward to see him once he got on the ball um sangar went missing big time he he he he kind of lost it and he rightly got hooked and because that's what happened you know it wasn't as uh substitution based on tiess or anything like that he had to go off he'd been bed he was he was committing fils he was giving the ball away so other than that where I've highlighted time after time that I feel that's a weakness the the selection yeah and and and one other was just before I finish one other real positive from the um from the performance for me here he is hello Stanley he doesn't like me being on YouTube de maybe maybe Stan's is a sangari fan that's why he's not happy with you maybe he is he's heard me mention it again well my last point before I pass over to the guys uh kadoo I thought he was again when we're talking about mature performances he never gave the ball away you know and it's the first time I've seen him put in that kind of performance where he doesn't take rash shots or he doesn't just whip the ball in for the sake of it and and I thought it he he's really really becoming a consistent player of course towards the end of last season he were linked with the big clubs again perhaps Villa and Tottenham I think he was linked with but he started this season as everybody told us he was he's looking really re really good you know even better than last season because of that maturity making the right passes you know not just flinging it in the box or trying that like that that curler into the bottom corner every five minutes I thought he he really helped Forest keep the ball like and and of course the pace um kills them when when they get going but I thought he was absolutely excellent yesterday and and it was one of them again where you look around for man in the match and it's not not as obvious um but I thought he was he was right up there in and Millo with some real s performances yesterday and before I get more give for the comments um from Ken who was late Dez was late just I tell you that uh P Hi D mark Dez Mark I hope you friend I was actually at 10 to so I was first I'll still blame you de de blame for everything Alan hope you're all my friend um big fulam fan and watch out listen to his podcast as well Alan's podcast as well top guy as well with this one Eve good evening Mr DZ Mark and Steve hope you're all well I'm good to Steve jald while we left but I know he do well Bley I'm just drawing a new picture at the sitr while listening Eve keep drawing and and that's what you do um BR said look up Twitter Bret new po I think we all know about uh grimz we'll talk about the end of the show about him it seems like he's on and eding cat is off so we'll talk about that later on on the show P Irish evening Mr D crew great to see you finally finally see your game out like that finally bet delivered and we should have been left out out sight yeah I get that I get that uh g hi DZ Mar and Steve I hope my friend as well please do hit the like button if you can and subscribe as well uh what else is there what D good evening guys looking for for to European nights yes why not why not let's let's have a laugh because we are seventh in the league uh I can get my passport out make watching for us abroad it's amazing absolutely amazing so we're in a dream we could dream it could happen you never know Gregory says three points that's good enough for me but we need that 3050 million Str today not next year yeah we definitely do Chris says southton caus himself massive problems trying to play out the bat mistake after mistake long season head for them it shocking it absolutely shocking and again I'll say my piece by later on uh and this guy I don't know who this guy is hi lad sorry I'm late I think this here Dez that's all that's all he comes with David don't you shout out to Dave uh gr said I'm confident team can achieve mid table position that means progress that result helps yes that's great positive G mid table H happy with that uh G said question is is where southton Po and made far look G or far BR I'll get to mark that in a minute evening all glad to to have Premier League do back Prem League to back still think we need Premier League experience in six in six position definitely definitely my friend uh class up until we got the yellow card but y was good when we came up that's what again I want to talk about that as well Michael said we still need quality CDM who can keep the ball last minutes to well wining come on are you shocked every when come on no are you shocked um southton reminds me of forest when we were promoted first season and we made mistakes and they got relegated 100% uh d d have you got watching up hanging up uh yeah yeah thanks for that uh what for this one on what's your thoughts on stri situation we are going to talk about it later on throughout the show uh who else do I need to look at and NFC 1865 great to be top 10 let's hope we can get stay there um Mark there's touch on it like sari and I seen the comments mention that that that yellow card that he had do you think he got worried a little bit or do you think he was just generally poor and he had to be taken off um I wouldn't say he was very poor I mean there was there was a bit of suspect passing but he's he's definitely improving he's he's definitely working himself in into the side and I think it's because we play different variations you know he's played with Yates now as uh Anderson started yesterday so he's got he's got different things to contend with and I I just want to see him just gradually improved throughout the season um yeah probably getting booked stopped him sort of like uh he'd he'd have probably stopped off for 90 minutes possibly if uh if he had got booked but yeah he wasn't all that poor see would you have sari and um Anson as your as your new Cent cing from now moving forward car this Midfield is such a yeah yeah I with the way old Midfield is and the the players we have obviously Delo is out now is I think who you're up against I I think if Dominguez has started yesterday I wouldn't have begrudged that only because I I've said the kind of the kind of football sampon play Dominguez has started he's such a high pressing player and on your TOS I would have minded that so even if they' gone with Dominguez and sangari or Dominguez and Anderson I would have mind it so TR your CR and I think it's who maybe who you playing against Ben maybe I don't know um Anderson was impressive I think he did slightly Tire as well I think the only thing I would say so in that Midfield I did touch it that just that for that spell that 15 20 minute spell begin of the Midfield did slightly get on top which I found sangari got the book and he he start like there touched on he started get the ball away I thought Anderson Just slightly started to drift out the game and so we did bring fresh legs on um did did Anderson go off he did didn't he yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I think we have got maybe I don't know if we're gonna get Kevin for Delo out till well the time he rehab as well probably looking at the new year so maybe another Center midfielder might be on the shopping list for the next week but yeah again Ben y came on and made an impact I'm sure we come on again to individuals but yeah so who you going to put next to sangari me personally I think who who you're playing um if you want a high pressing game Dominguez if you want uh a scrap I'd pick Yates if you want a footballing game you would pick you would have pick Anderson or delilo if he was obviously not injured it's kind of like pick a name really Ben sometimes I think it's so hard to pick it's so hard and you know it's it's ni it'd be nice to have a bit of consistency Midfield but I mean I mean it's like last week we had four Center midfielders across across the across the middle of the park which didn't work so sometimes you got to get that balance right um so yeah yeah I would have liked to seen Dominguez start as well with it that that High Press we playing but then it's you know I I was quite impressed with Anderson you know he already put foot wrong A P not pass out of place hardly um and and he definitely I definitely he started instead of Yates for that for that type of game and you know when Yates came on second half and that was really really needed when it happened and it h you know it kept us ahead of them in the game and ultimately that was that was the right decision I think there's a lot said about yanki and I think we all love him but you're not going to start him every game depending on who the opposition are but yes yest today was made for him coming on when he did bit of aery in the corner and keep keep keeping us uh wasting time and that give their fans back as good as they were given him and but it is it is what Steve says you nuno's got to work out what Midfield he's going to play against which opponents because I I I don't think we can play the same Midfield every time it just won't work um with John yeah is great for the last 30 minutes and he was great he did look like give the ball away sometimes but you come on and he change a game and that's what I speak about Dez his favorite player more Gibbs White and the question is Dez he's got his goal um he's in his first season Forest that goal's gave him so much confidence now and now he it's got to build up now because now he's the main man now he's the main man scores goals makes s but he's got a he's got he's got a points Pro on or not no I don't think he has though because I don't think I and I'm just going to Har back to what the guys are talking about and the number six world in the Midfield I think the Midfield has got a job to do to support Morgan Gibbs white you know he car he carries his team at times and and I'm not going to bang on because I made my point about sangar right he he's played two games against a really poor Bor of Midfield and a Southampton team that didn't come out of their their their third would did he started to struggle you know we're talking about who plays in there it's almost now who plays with sangar that's nonsense because sangari shouldn't play the next game he should be dropped because Yates I I've argued till I'm blw in the face that yat Dominguez Anderson and Danilo are not number Sixers they're better number Sixers than what we got because we are carrying sangar we're carrying him he's kicking the ball out of play Left Right and Center you know his confidence is not there I get that you know and and I'm hoping it becomes that player because and this is where it comes back to Morgan Gibbs white this is where I'm bringing my point to you know somebody's got to be the the focal point in there we've not got to settle Midfield we can't decide right now between Yates and Danilo Dano when everyone's fit and and Anderson and Dominguez you know like the guys say you perhaps pick a horse for a course at the moment but if we had a set team and a focal point in there to work from perhaps it' be working much better and I think Morgan Gibs right it's almost like every week he's got something to prove or every time he does something people ask this question he hasn't got anything to prove because he's carried the team for two seasons you know he's he's been the main man who's who's done his job and he's he's help the strikers become the strikers they H they are you know wood wasn't firing on all cylinders once he got a run in the team with Gibbs white Gibbs White's the one who sets him up Tyro when he scores his goals you know it was almost that running behind Gibbs white finds him but a lot of it is Gibbs white tracking back having to tackle yes don't get me wrong everybody's got a job to do defensively but he's doing too much of a job defensively and he's taking away from the real ability he's got going forward I said to you on Friday you know we especially against teams like Southampton and Bournemouth from wolves we need Morgan Gibs like breaking into the box that's where we used to frighten the life out of us when we played them three or four times in the championship and what made us sign him when he popped up on the edge of the Box you knew something was happening and and we don't do that you know yes he he he did actually pop up in the box from a Ricochet yesterday and and got his goal and and it's brilliant to see but I I I don't think he's got anything to prove ever you know he's the best player he is the best player what ever we whoever we pick out and he's the best player most weeks but he's he's a bit of a victim victim of his own success isn't he you know in the sense that we we expect even more from him and I think until they sort the Midfield out you know again I was I was talking about being pragmatic at the top of the show you know until this all that mfield let's just remember the opposition I'm I'm not deflating or devaluing the points we've taken so far because I'm talking that we can turn this into a really good start but I'm really worry in there when we start playing possession based football team you know strong midfields and and I know Southampton are possession base but they play a dangerous game like Burnley from the back you know when you've got players that can actually play it you know I I really fear for his and I think Southampton are going to take some beatings this season absolute beatings you know from the likes of city and Liverpool people like that I I think at times we will we we will still take one or two because it it you win football games in the Midfield and it's all right saying and and I'm not arguing the guys I take their point and I listen to everything they say so I don't want to sort get into a debate about it but it's all right saying sort of sangar you want to see him improved you know how long can we give him how long can we give this guy 35 million quid you know and and he not doing the business with you see Arsenal fans talking about anier and how bad he is and they don't want him and that he's a 30 million pound player you know this the Premier League is ruthless absolutely ruthless and I think until we saw that position at the the team won't function and I I felt watching it yesterday you know I I stood on my own so I was fully sort of zoned in on the game and watching reactions I think sangar is starting to frustrate the rest of the team as well you know some of the things that happened on the football pitch there was a few arms going up you know Nuno was frustrated I I get why they keep playing him they want to sort of drag this good player out what what they think they signed and the owner is going to want return but I think we need to start seeing more and at the moment we're carrying him and I think Gibbs white has to go back and do a lot of that work which he shouldn't be doing he should be the man pulling all the things when we got that ball forward if he had an extra yard or an extra half yard you know imagine the things we could do spoke about yesterday how um uh Kut and adoi had a mature performance you know imagine if Gibbs White had that extra yard and and they they're linking up because when they do link up when they get that one touch going from AA into Gibbs why into uh odson Ado and then then sort of that cut in from that side it's killing teams and that's what were killing them yesterday um but but we really couldn't get going um we really we we could get going sorry what I wanted to say there is we couldn't get the ball through Gibbs white enough to really really damage him and I think that's where we're losing the clinical Edge because yes every chance yesterday we must have had 10 in the first half every chance was an half chance rather than a clearcut chance so I still think we should have gone in 2 N up and comfortable game over I think it should have been game over but we never created that really really clearcut opportunity which which is the difference in the Premier League you know I I you asked me before the game what I think the score would be I said one nil because it's a popular score in the Premier League and I think with Gibbs white pulling the strings that might have happened early we might have even got a second or and a third and really put the game to bed but I think it's because of the struggles we have there and what we're carrying so Gibbs why going back to your original question absolutely nothing to prove I'm open like yourself you know it does take him to the ne Next Level you know because we all want that little bit more from him even though I I'll never criticize what he gives we want to see that flar you know that we want to see him shooting from the edge of the box or breaking into the box and getting the goals and when we do Forest become a proper proper Premier League team you know this guy's this guy's not going to stay around in 17th in the Premier League for a long time we know that this team's man united Li man united Newcastle Spurs supposedly and England you know and he's going to want that ambition so I think we've got to start really really sort of getting that Midfield right now and playing to his strengths so he wants to do it with us 100% before I get Mar for the comments what is saying has draw draw coms opinions on on it Mor white still need T mature in my opinion um need to stop with all the silly flicks and tricks we will do a lot better uh dra again sari for five six minutes then on different player change the game 100% uh qu say I'm not division Dez de always his point but Mark is right he keeps getting in different partners in Midfield droing now send message message and um risk of confidence going yeah maybe but I said that again six minutes we need a 90 minute man we can't if if he doesn't play good he gets dropped and I keep saying it if s doesn't play well we bring Yates in and it happened and look we win the game and that's how it is uh says de please stop there AJ said he's been good since pre-season uh John said what are you watching who's that I don't know is that for Dez or the one above uh agreed Dez why they agree with Dez Chris Des is cor as always no he's not stop talking nonsense um uh special thank you for the 449 yeah I appreciate as well if I don't want to help support my channel as well and as well Coast to Coast Rod is at top of link as well please support his channel um Mark let's let's talk about um you know everyone criticize his substitutions he got him back on didn't yesterday yeah I mean he obviously had a a good plan Morgan referred to it said that they played the way the manager wanted especially in the first half so uh he he he obviously got it right yesterday um I think the the substitutions were more on point compared to the Bournemouth game uh one thing I was really disappointed in the Bournemouth game was how uh soon in the second half he took both the Wingers off it left them on a lot longer yesterday so yeah he he's starting to endear himself to to the fans and I mean I don't go to as many away games as you and Dez but the you know lot go to games that's singing his name yesterday um so yeah he he's he's clearly starting to do things right another away Victory and I know it was the end of last season but that's three away victories on the truck the Premier League so you know it's that's that's what we need we need to move more points away and he he's clearly started to get some tactical decisions right what what's your opinion Steve on you know like I said got it right being off for sari Dominguez um people in the chat as well like I said but I could say KN know about subtitution from end of last season um last week was was shocking but what see what's your opinion on like he got got it right you can't complain yeah yeah look Ben some I'm I'm a believer that you can learn from mistakes and sometimes what happened last week can be um you can think a positive positive out of it where Nuno would think about that and go i' get it right next week and he had it wrong last week and he rectified it yesterday so sometimes he made a mistake last week he probably put his hand up he probably told the players in the week he got it wrong and he had a spot on yesterday when it goes right he looks like a genius when it goes wrong you know the manager takes the bash in so you know next week now you might get it wrong again so you know it's it's one of them things like yeah yeah yes he had a spot on and you know I was a bit baffled and we we all touched it last week with the SS I was there live watching it but this week got it right and you know we I was a bit worried would he go down the route again of taking the pace off because to be fair though langa looked absolutely blowing in at the end when he alanga just couldn't run by the end uh there's a couple of counter attacks we had and you know he was still working hard and it goes back to what Dez touched on last week with someone like aanga he carries you up the pitch uh Hudson Carri carried us up to pitch yesterday which we didn't have when when when these boys went off last week against B we had no one to carries up the pitch so when you got Pace on the wings and you know alanga running at their left back at the end you know he had that chance he he struck his sh at the keeper when you have that and Ty will come on he's got some Pace about him they these players carry up the pitch the other thing I would say is we still need to kill these teams off like you know in the final third yesterday there was two chances we had at the end and J Silva came on and I thought he made two great runs Tai War should have picked him out I don't know if you boys saw it when you live but watch on TV Silva made one good run the first one I think uh was it was the first Tai War should have picked him out and then I think it was a Langer or might have been y I think should have picked him out as well so them chances we have to just kill the game just kill the game we W have to worry then about if they get a lucky deflected goal or pump in the box and so that's one thing I would say we need to kill teams off uh Ben um you know it's great winning one nil away but to Rel stamp our thought would be nice just to come away with a two three nil um and that would even make a biggest statement and I think is what Gibbs white is touching on I think to go to that next level we need to try and come away with a more uh even more command in performance because these teams are poor and sampton have a very poor side and you know if we had won two or three nil it would have been a bit better for a G RI as well would it going forward so um Steve just put it like we how many chances we have was it 25 chances we had um I think we had 25 well have we SE have we seen the stats for the first uh week we've got the highest average above City in all for the total shots um and there something else as well we're on top of the averages so far I don't if it's this season or just this weekend yeah well I know I know we had 20 25 shot 20 20 shots possession was 35 we had 23 shots 23 shots I Target I trying to say we played two like was shocking but we winning one nil I'm this people in the comment as well we I see I think when there was a bit where alangar um he he R out two people and me personally I think he should have passed I think it was wood can hear wood shout Anthony the these kind of things will will affect throughout the season do you think what's the word then do you think Lang should be doing set more assist then or goals there because is it needs to start scoring goals if we if we can get away from bottom three yeah you know what elanga is a good player and when he's when he's heart he's readed up you know he's unplayable when he's but we haven't we've seen it Newcastle basically you know and we' seen what what he's capable of in in that sort of complete performance that day um and and and there's a real real talented player in there is frustrating and again he's not just frustrating for us I told you about how I kind of watched the game yesterday Nuno was absolutely fuming at him on lots of occasions you know really frustrated with him you would see he he was driving Nuno insane more than anybody else on the pit just his decision making and again I refer to Woodson adori and how he got his decision making right um you mentioned that in the second half where he ran he he he he did that run and he shot from a tight angle and he should have squared it to Woods W it's little things like that isn't it do you know where when you that might come over the season you know that that's where your confidence comes as a player you know and and we're talking about an unconfident player in sangare and I question that but someone like elanga because of all that raw talent you know the more they zipping the ball around the more that that half a yard of space they've got that little bit of thinking time you know it it just gives them that and and over the first few weeks of the season if they're in the team and and they're winning and the confidence is high it kind of clicks and that's where you can take yourself from like where we are or where we've been up to this position where everyone says to every single farest fan I ever meet you know and I I'm of the same opinion myself thinks there is six or seven teams worse than is in the in the league I think there six or seven worse teams than us to finish 13th or 14th will be incredible this season you know because we we don't want all all the mess of what's gone before from the two performan we've had which have been patchy in Parts you know decent but patchy you know confidence builds players like elanga you know the more they winning football matches you you you asked me about Gibbs white I think Gibs White's a different different animal he wants more all the time you know he's never going to be happy Gibbs white is that kind of character um but people like alanga and uton Ado you know they're confidence players and why why they play for forest and not Chelsea and Manchester United is because they're inconsistent footballers you know and that's what you get at the bottom of bottom of the Premier League uh you get talented players that are inconsistent what happens the more you win the more you get the B the quicker you get the ball to him again just touching on that Midfield point he gets that half a yard down the wing he gets that Split Second to look up and see wood you know and and then he plays that ball and then we win 2-0 because all those chances that that point you were making they all started by the lack of um Cutting Edge from the chances I guess that's where you was starting that point you know we had 23 chances but we didn't have many we we didn't have any if if anything other than the the one that fot to Gibbs white we didn't have anything where you say 100% that's got to it the back of the net and that's because we're not far off we're not far off but it's those little things and it this comes so again if if someone wants to argue with me about sangar and confidence building I'll take it cuz I'll take people's point if anyone wants to call my stream and battle with desert sari please message me on Instagram B I think the point because we're all adults St at the end of the day and and and I'm making the point to back that up to some degree you know confidence comes with winning football matches that's why it was important to win the bloody game last week and try and take it into this week do you know this week we won the game wasn't pretty in the end let's try and win next week and all of a sudden players have got the head up you know they're thinking they can win part of winning football mat is is belief as well you know when we got a lot of players who are confidence type players who when they believe in themsel and they believe they're a good team again will start dropping some of the mistakes and get into that that sort of place in the table like I say those chances in the first half nothing there was nothing where you could say we should have 100% at the back of the net there was a they were decent enough do you know and a a quality finish or or a good connection and we would have been in front but that all comes bit by bit and and and going back to your point about Nuno because I didn't have chance to say anything about that do you know I was so pleased that we played that High Press because I the one point I didn't get right on Friday I feel when we spoke was I didn't think he'd play like that I thought he'd let them players we hit them on the Counterattack and and sort of just blit them in that way what we actually did is just went to it he he realized that they were going to play that way everyone knows anyway but he it's the first time I've actually seen him play off the opposition's weakness rather than see what they do and then try and react to it because he is he is a counterattacking football manager pretty much in the same way Steve Cooper was whatever anyone says he's a counterattacking football manager but when you're playing that type of football if you've got players like elanga and Al and Gibbs white and someone mentioned the flicks and and things like that if you counterattacking and you've got those skillful players they're always going to be part of the game because that's what gets you from one part of the pitch to another very quickly so I think it all sort of without really going on about the same thing it all stems from getting the right players in the right position you know doing their jobs and then all these these Fleer players really flourish and I think elanga just to really sort of pinpoint your question yes there's a little bit more to come I feel at times he'd have to come in and out the team you know to to to to some degree get that kick up the backside to to to get things right because I could see nuno's frustration myself and you wonder with somebody like jotter Silva whether he's there to give him direct competition one thing I would like to see very occasionally is him swap them over do you know just to the Natural side just to the Natural sides cuz they're very effective at what they do but if you notice yesterday Langer he he got the ball three or four times in the second half and once uh right Phillips had gone to the other side you know he he had the beating of that fullback this Charlie Taylor guy he really had the beating of him and we was all screaming around me saying go outside him but he didn't want to come outside him he went inside and he kind of ran into traffic didn't he quite often he he ran into three or four Defenders and I think it'd be nice sometimes just if he'd mix it up so the the crosses were coming in the oldfashioned way you know and someone like Warden Gibbs white might be waiting in the box but no I thought I thought I thought the selection was pretty much spot on again for all I've said about sangar there's not much option there at the moment I thought n Nuno is starting to sort of he's starting to pick the team and starting to use the tactics to suit what Forest are and what the opposition are before the game starts I don't want us always to react after 25 minutes to what the opposition's done but now and this is why he's warm to the crowd like Mark says you know there feels that little bit of warmth all of a sudden and that's all we really want as football fans isn't it because if you're behind the manager you're generally doing okay that's the reality isn't it reality is reality um please do like being if you can people subscribe if you're new um I'm on 28 likes get me to 50 likes if you can um right's let's talk sorry Ben sorry Ben can I just say one thing there was there was one chance in the first half we should have buried and that was the chance the big Ser put wide Chris Wood squared it that should have been the back of the net oh that one oh about three of them queing up wasn't it though there was to be fair to him I know he's a center half but I think there was someone in front of him who kind of slid may have caught him off guard and he kind of shined it and he just put it wi so I think that should it may be for know the adjective goes if it fall into a a Midfield or a striker they would have put in the back of the net so that that was the one chance I thought because how typical would been Forest to miss that and then they go end the pitch and score but uh obviously didn't happen so last people hit hit the like button if you can um right let's let's talk about the stri stri situation because like I said um Chris W um started um Ty come on for last was it last 10 minutes or something um but as you know we'll be L with going out name gz from fard um not getting Ed in the K if if you've not seen it um get the panel's opinion I've put a poll up people about um do you want him yes or no so please get your votes in now um last you Mark I don't know if you've seen him or not um yes know do you want him or would you still stick with W I've not really seen anything of him at all like you know as always the highlight reels always show the best of them so you know but his stats are good it's just a question of you know the league has done it in uh we know within ketia we're going to get some Premier experience um but yeah I mean i' i' I'd take him I we we need to try something because as much as I love Ward and as much as I love Taio I think they're both great players but one's getting a bit towards the end of his career now and I don't think we can rely on wood to play all season I've been a bit frustrated with him even though he scored when you look at his his sort of like position M on the apps and that he's not the most forward player the forest team like you know he's second or third and his average position is somewhere just just above the halfway line and and for me that's that's not how it should be um and Taio as we know he's he has trouble staying fit so we need to find a striker who's going to stay fit for the season and who we can hopefully get 20 goals Plus out of um so yeah I think give give him andz a try I'd have been happy to take him catcher as well and give him a go because I think we' have been using him in a different way than Arsenal have um and I know a lot of people are are come back to his stats and say they're not very good uh considering he's an arsal player but I think it's just the way they've used him well Steve Chris didn't didn't yeah yeah I think how many times he would have yesterday if he can remember was the head first um which I felt I felt with the chance with uh Ana made the break on the left I was screaming at him just run at the near post and he just stopped and he didn't he he floated went the back post and chriswood had so much to do um just them little things and yeah chriswood didn't have sniff yes they really what what what's your on the Mexican do do you want him yes or no or would you prefer Eddie people in the comments get involved who do you prefer I know I I don't need to ask de I know how de feels about it I'll get de opinion but people in comments who do you prefer Eddie K or or gz put Paul who would you prefer there's 85 people in get involved um who would you prefer I say in in K I was down in the water but if you would given me an option i' I probably would have just leaned towards inet just py because he has Premiership Premiership experience but saying that you know like I said before you won't know about this Mexican until could be a FL sorry again it's wor WiFi again sorry am I back yes am I back yes you're back sorry my phone yeah sorry I had an incoming call then sorry guys um stop Ling Stephen stop lying not pay your I got I've got green lights on my on my on my on my Hub um what was I saying about in K yeah so I mean we could sign this guy and he could be an Anthony um from the Dutch League or we could sign him we could be Ro you know what I mean it's it's the gamble take Ben he's a good what is he 23 is he 24 people comments when someone how old is he you know his record's pretty good I mean the Dutch league isn't the best league but like I said you know if he comes and does the business I mean that chance yesterday that fell to um rovic if I fall to him is in the back of the net you know what I mean it's it's late on the window now as well I mean if we don't sign him who's left there we can't I agree with Mark we can't go through the season with tyor wood um we need that third option we need a bit more legs um because I made the point in which Mark just said about TI up the pitch you know there was an incident last week in the Bournemouth game wood was in his own half turned played the ball off but you could see he was just trying trying a bust to get to get to the box but you know he's he's the wrong side of 30 now you need that player who's going to spin in behind or run the channels and you just need a slightly different option um so I don't fully trust how you were to stay fit and that sounds harsh to say but it's the truth you know we just can't seem to get him fit for even if we can get him fit for a dozen games in a row we'd be something we just can't you always seem to pick a knock up or it's how he goes or so me Ben yeah take take a punt in this guy I mean this it's one of them things who else is out there can anyone else throw names at me people in chat is is there anyone any names out there that Championship League well monke League one AB Brad please get in the comments who is anyone but I can't I don't know I really don't know um i' like to see who's gone for joarez oh the one play for commentary oh Sport's been I know the Greek boy yeah I know Victor YZ yeah I think they they a lot of money for him w't they I think yeah I think him he so the same no no I don't I don't think he um I don't think he's Arsenal player I don't think he's a kind of player that Arsenal want if I'm honest I L well I don't know i' seen what um play the Len player maybe maybe what about Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea must have 10 St what it bur why don't we raise it get him you know what the problem is with all these players you that and it's the same witho and and and imz you know I I put a strong argument when you asked me the same question the other day of why I would plump for antia because of the Premier League experiencing like Mark says do you know it was it was purely based around that kind of thing I do think the Dutch league is a massive risk but who are we as fans to [ __ ] nose up at a 30 million pound Striker we all love signing Strikers you know you we're going to have to take risk I accept that what all I want from forest is that Forest truly want the people who are scouting these players truly want Eddie and ker or renez or or one of the other like or both you know they truly want them because if they don't truly want them and it's a panic buy then what we're on dodgy ground aren't we we're on dodgy ground and the problem is with all these players we're talking about even jarez to some point the the guy who I who will probably go to Arsenal when en ker get shipped out the door um the problem is we don't see them and and I watch a lot of football do you know K said to me I've watched five games today you're probably going to watch another one aren't you yeah I watch him from all around the world but you don't see enough of them because we're talking about Brer from Chelsea it's because these big clubs and again it it's the way it is I'm not bemoaning the fact of it and saying it's going to change but it's because the big clubs have just loaded with all the talent going so now you don't see a top striker in the championship because they're not good enough for the Premier League because that's where all you that was you where you gone by your players from or you know somebody who could come through the ranks that way and now all of a sudden we're talking about players that we've got no idea about cuz we're not Scouts you know we're fans at the end of the day and and look if we sign himz I'll be as excited as anyone at the fact we've signed a player that I'd hope Forest believe is worth the money they prepared to spend on him if it goes WR after that that's fine but let's not make any Panic buys because we proved last year and and not ideally and and I I totally agree with with Mark and Steve that we can't go through another season with' just these two do you know with the age award and with with Tyro Tyro looks desperately unfit yesterday I thought you know the ball was bouncing off him he couldn't couldn't get it under control you know so so that's a concern but we we can get through to some degree by beating teams like Southampton and not wasting a lot of money if these players aren't the players we want it looks like with anier that they're not prepared to pay the wages you know they're not prepared to pay the wages for him cat and that's looks like why the move might have broke down to me that says enough to say draw a line under it move on if himz is your man now go and get himz if you can afford you can afford that but let's not get silly and let's not just start Panic buying like we have done because the strikers aren't really there are they they're not there to buy on on on goal scoring record like we used to we used every Club used to buy Strikers who' scored 25 goals for someone else now you just you're buying potential all the time but so we've got to we've got to trust the protest so to speak you know with Faris and hope imz is the one and and he comes in and he bangs in a few goals because for for as much as as much as you watch football and a lot of football you can't watch it all you know and and and these names pop up but you'd have hope for have done the job and I think if he comes in him and you know great you know we'll get behind him we'll do what we need to do we'll forget about Eddie and KY and and this this conundrum that we're all in right now and hopefully add something different I like the the guy mentioned there ad adaya from luten but do you think to some degree he's a little bit Sim he's a little bit different don't get me wrong he's he he's probably half ayard quicker and and a bit more skillful than than Tyro but he's very similar to some degree isn't is he is that is that guy to sort of use as a batter in r at times or get the ball up to you know and that that's the the one thing I was liking about an anier was the difference as well in in in what he is to the other two you know just to give us that bit of option if if you've got elanga and and odono getting down the RNG and getting crosses in someone to be in that six-yard box cuz Mark made the mark made the point Chris Wood doesn't seem to play a lot in the six-yard box you know he's not that type of gu not that type of guy so it it's a real real conundrum isn't it the ster situation but if we sign the the the Dutch guy oh the Mexican guy from The Dutch League you know we we'll get behind it and we'll do what we need to do but it I just think the Dutch league is a real real risk and yes fingers burn with sangar but you know but Steve mentions one or two there I just think some times it's best to let them players go to Italy or Germany and then go and sign them see see how good they are can I just say as well I think s is Forest fans I'm not speaking us guys now but majority Forest fans we' got this kind of um View and Outlook and who we should sign and you know who we very picky we seem very like picky as fans as oh he's not going to be good enough for us or why we signing him look at look at Brighton now right they just spell 40 million on a leads United Striker 40 million on a on a um I I was I I did mention him before if switch went out and got that Samy SMX right he scored yesterday on his de how much they send how much they spend on him 25 mil I mean when West Ham signed Jared Bowen from Hull I mean this is what I'm saying like we you know if we would go in the championship now and spend 35 40 million we'd be like oh why we waste no money blah blah blah blah blah like spur just went and spent 25 30 million on the Burnley Winger yeah I mean this is what I'm saying it's we can't be too choosy sometimes I mean you know there are players out there who are worth the money it's the go we we and I'm backing up your point we can't get our head around it we can't because we've been away for so no that's what I mean we as Forest fans we we are we yeah I I feel some Forest fans have forgetting now within this market like you said Dez we're in this market now where we have to spend this money it's not like we used to be five million you know we spent 5 million on um Assa longer that money was crazy money to us I remember I signing him and Antonio in one summer you're all right you're all right 8.5 million I remember reading that going wow this is insane money now that's like a week's that's like a Year's wage now for like Gibs white or whatever something stupid like that you know what I mean it's that's the that's the climate we're in now we got to get out of this mindset that oh why we throwing money this why okay we have seen some shocking players over the years but what club hasn't I mean we have the recruitment has to be right as well but I feels sometimes why can't we just be like right if we are going to spend it we got to back the recruitment now we got to believe that these players If this boy comes in and scores the goals we have to start believing if he's worth the money go and spend it the recruitment must have looked into it because yes when we came up we did throw a lot of money at it a lot of players came in but now you know it's just sometimes I feel like you know we just quit to shoot down any transfer rumor yeah it's just I think I think what happens Steve is because it's Eddie and Kia for example because the goal scoring record is not there and because he's playing for arsenal we want him to we don't want to spend 30 million in the first place because a lot of fans think that's insane so foot when we are linked with 30 million we want liel Messi in his Peak you know it's not gonna happen is it and and I what I was trying to say about jnez is my way of coming around to that thinking you know as a fan because I've been in the same position is all these ones all these fans we're now talking about thinking that's crazy we can't do that we shouldn't do that trying to come around to the fact that 30 million is your old5 million pound Striker you know are you taking a chance on and I think you you spot on with that point you know in the fact that let them spend the money and and and as fans let's trust the process cuz we can talk about it until we're blew in the face you can sign the best player in the world and it might not work out you know certain clubs certain times and certain clubs just don't work out and I think yeah of course for for the point of YouTube and door show he going to ask the question but I think we as as fans we get really sort of too carried away and this is why I always say I love the love the reviews and the previews because we can talk about the football let's get these guys in and and and enjoy them from the start football today you sign players and people are angry with them before they've even put a shirt on what the hell is going on there before isn't right fans are allow opinions if it doesn't count for the days was he was he there under Freeman days are you are you on about Dez or I don't no I answer that point I been I was there way before freem Monday you know I've had a season ticket for 35 years but the thing is fans are in opinion but once your Play sign for you claw it's your duty as a FES fan to get behind them you know let let's not forget that we don't we don't sign the checks we don't it's not our technically it is our money to some degree they spending because we we pump a lot in you know and it's a football fan that you it's just part and parcel of what we do as supporters but everyone's allowed an opinion on anything I'm not not questioning that I'm just saying that this is where3 million is the going rate so you can argue it till you blew in the face if you don't spend you'll get relegated interest spending 30 million pound on Players let's just we've got that we've had a fantastic show so please do hit the like button you can um we can talk we talk about the play player performance and the ratings and your my match so people get involved who was your m match and player ratings and last but not least we talk about this this player that we have signed and going to limpia cost that will go crazy but so people in the comments who was your M the match what's your team rating please get involved Mark who's your man of the match and what's your rating uh I think man of the match is very hard like Dez said very early on in the Stream that there wasn't anyone who really um stood out individually um and although he didn't do anything special I thought minkovich had a really solid debut uh in defense away so I I think for me he probably just shaded it and team I think it's got to be a because we won away and we managed to control the match at the end I'm probably going to go with an eight uh St who your who's your minor match on team rating um yeah the big sub at the back I think he's slowly he's gonna become one of my favorites I L Ben because I'm dead touching earlier I I loved I love the old non nonsense Defender just stick around and just kick someone just block someone off the ball just No Nonsense just you know there was only one instant in the game we had a bit of a panic clearance it did scuff it a little bit but it happens to the best um I think he was good good game to ease him into as well I know Dez touched it earlier that they were poor but you've only play what is in front of you you know we I I mean we wouldn't have been having this chat if he had uh you know headed went into his own goal and he would have had a nightmare debut so I I would say him and Gibs white as well came into his own in the second half um I thought driv us up the pitch as well so I think uh so minkovich was my man of the match um Team rating just just for the pure fact we didn't really put him to the sword which I thought we could have won two three 3 N I think um I probably give it a seven I was I was leaning towards an eight like Mark but I think only because of that fact that we didn't really put him to the sword I'd give him a solid seven and a half B I think Dez team rating I'd say a seven you know it was it was good enough for what we needed to do yesterday I still think there were flaws I've mentioned the number six role I've mentioned the lack of um Clinic a clinical Edge you know and the way they tie it off that is early SE could be early season rustiness you know I'm not being negative I just feel there's there's a lot more to and also the the opposition we were playing you had to be the and I'm not being rude or offensive to anyone that wasn't you had to be there to see how bad Southampton were you know they were a bad side um when it comes to man of the match I've already touched on it I thought Muro was very very good yesterday today you know went in the shadow of some of the the new names you know and and things like that but my man of the match was K and Ado you know I can't believe how professional he was yesterday you know I'm not saying he wasn't before but it was the decision making and you don't have to be a superstar in a football match to win the game when I came out I told the comment there from David he said mgw for the goal I was thinking the same because I was thinking who was Man of the match you know sort of processed it all and I think I remember a performance from Brenan Johnson a few years ago at fham away when we scored that goal that dodgy goal where the keeper Zig go Zig go Z and he just ran all day Johnson did and it made me think everything he's done he's been an outlet and and the performance fromon his door yesterday reminded me of that and the fact that he was just the outlet all the time you know we know he's got paid we know he does that kind of things but it was always an outlet and once we got the ball it relieved some of the pressure on the on the back o on the defense you know whatever pressure were there because it wasn't a great deal and that's why I wouldn't have gave it to one of the center backs and because I thought there weren't enough pressure on them I think there's plenty of improvement to come from the team I like the look of milenovic I think he compliments um murilo well but seeing m developed the way he seems to be this season you know probably a bit more coaching you know for and a different Outlook from U from uh different coaches that have come in you know I think he he's he's going to go to another level again so I think there's lots and lots of positives to take from yesterday but we just have to be a little bit realistic in everything that that that happened as well um I my my match is going to be the Serb de Movic um I think he was fantastic on his debut as well and said says I don't think I there didn't really nothing to do most of the time because b b and Armstrong spent most of the time being a Winger so but for me I think like the last five minutes he got his head there did his job and for me he my the match and I think I give but then sometimes just the P presence of him being there stops stops opposition because they up against him look at this guy he's a man mounted he's a big lump and sometimes it plays into their mind as well like I've seen a few comments online saying like him and Maro going like be like a brick wall you know what I mean it's okay we're going to conc the some of course we're going to con seeed goals but when we signed this guy they did say from the from the fantina side of things they said from set pieces defending or attacking this guy and D's touching it he he can head the ball so that's what you want you just want a No Nonsense guy at the back 100 so yeah so for me Movic for me with my match and as I said seven for me um before we do go as everyone for seeing it there's been a bit bit outo regarding um for assigned uh PTO David kamaro and commo he's gone straight to olympos fiveyear contracts 11 million plus for add-ons um as people opinion before we do go um and as well get involved people are you you happy or you angry or whatever get get involved now before we do let me start with you Mark what's your opinion on it on this yeah I mean for what we how much did we pay for him 11 million plus 4 million add-ons straight out to olympos I'm I'm not sure and the other thing with loans is um that's five now senior players that would have loaned out and we can only do a maximum of six you know so we've got we've already got panzo and Richards has gone to Rio AR now yeah uh and then you've got the zul stamin he went to olympos as soon as we signed him and and now Caro and then you also got um Lewis O'Brien's over in America so that's five senior players out loan already we can only loan one more out and when you look at Mark I think I think you know regarding that what my understanding is if if you learn how a player but you know that he's definitely going that doesn't count if it's just a straight loan and no F the're both both different things I think if I'm right because Brian's definitely leaving anyway because they've GED 5 million I think it's 5 million I think I don't I might right or wrong I don't know I sure it is but s Ste mark on see it's just that with the number of players we've got fre Squad players who you'd probably think that we'd be looking to loan out you know Dennis bowler Wang um you know it's like what what are we going to do with them so how many more players can we loan out out the senior Squad yeah um Steve I tell you I saw a comment from uh it Christen you popular replacement from moon for next season makes sense uh are you are you you what's your opinion on it today yeah well I touched old group chat earlier about um I think it's a way of looking to next summer maybe Bal will be out the contract probably is it he sign a one year extension so even probably move on Maro we all know could be G to bigger things War's gone pH it could be just a replacement to slot into there so because next year we'll have you know um potentially what how many how many Defenders no books in Movic Maro uh oral Deli and that'll be probably be it then so we'd have to have cover there and if obviously Mar got ABT as well abber as well yeah yeah Zack abber so will probably got um you know he looks he he looks a good Prospect so yeah I think it's uh I just hope again Ben you is saying know lot of forest fans said this is he G be another example of we never see him in a forest shirt that's the only thing that me with all this you know that that signing today didn't get me excited at all because I'm like well I'm not going to see him so why am I gonna get a buzz of it I mean I might see what how his progression goes in NBI keep an eye out for him but how how you supposed to get excited with that when as soon the Olympia I don't remember St they did say he's a good player as well but GRE League Premier League it's both different so exactly Ben I mean you know if he pull if he pulls up trees over there we expect him men to pull up trees like that next season for us um but if he if he struggles over there and flops then we'd be like oh who the hell have we signed it'll keep him so it's yeah yeah um Dez what's your opin before we do leave I don't know I've not really got an opinion on it you know it's there's obviously reasons why they do this kind of business you know there's obviously a benefit to Forest and Olympia iost and and perhaps the if they're signing players and they've never got intentions of play them look at the transfer last week camon Archer went back to Aston Villa then the next day went to Southampton you know so there was obviously something in that if football clubs are allowed to start operating in a way where they make profit instantly on signings because someone don't know something then you know it makes total sense doesn't it but I think the one thing that could put all this right and I don't think the club are going to do it because there's probably reasons why they can't do it is a little bit more transparency just tell us he's for he's for next season you know or and like I said they're not going to do that cuz they're not going to say he's there to replace Millo cuz we're all going to get deflated on the other on on the other side of things aren't we but I I just think this is the way football's gone isn't it and when I was saying we can't have an opinion and that sort of thing earlier we definitely can have an opinion but we have no choice at the end of the day you know we have no choice because football's gone in a way that it's moved away from you buy players to go in your first team and it's as simple as that look at Chelsea it's it's it's a factory of footballers isn't it you know they've got 60 players and all they're doing is is like developing them to sell them because you can never play 60 players in who who all within a fiveyear age bracket do you know because it's never going to happen but that's the way they they do their business that's the way they buy and sell and I think again because we've been out of this so long we don't get it you know we it's all new to us we're seeing players who never play and and it frustrates the life out of you cuz we've got excited about this name or this guy from Benfica or this guy from South America and ultimately they were never going to play in the first phase because because they G somewhere else and that's okay but what you'd really like to hear is the ones you know the the ones that are going to play are here to play that kind of thing I think that and and if you think about it now I'm saying it the ones that do actually play forf fares they make a big deal about you know the Morgan Gibbs white you know that they do all the big light show and you know odori last season and all sorts of things sangar you know when they signed in there was a whole they make that big deal so perhaps we can look into it a little bit more as football fans and when they when we sign someone for 11 million and it goes a little bit under the radar we just think whatever you know because over the next five years and and this is what again I'm only just getting head R so I'm not saying football fans don't know but you can sign a player for 11 million and probably get4 million pound a year in a lone fee yeah that's that's why that's the first that's the first thing I said we we get the first that's not an illegal deal that's how it works now because what what loaning teams do do you know they see it as a rather than spend 20 Milli 20 million pound on a player over a fiveyear contract they think if we can have him for a year that's the that's the four million you know a fifth of the contract it's 4 million we may as well pay the 4 million but but as football fans we can't get quite get our R round this because we all think loans are free you know to to to the um the the club that the players going to so I think we've got to sort of start understanding that football's much more of a business than it has been for 23 years in the championship you know we had some good ones there but now you you you you you're going to buy these Play We we've seen it with so many haven't we and there's talk of so is it Sosa he's going to olympos no that was J J Silva J Silva but he can't go now he can't go to olympos because um and again we we don't know do we sometimes and this is the problem by giving out too many opinions we don't know what's happening we don't know whether the guy's injured we don't know whether they're ill we don't know whe and and all of a sudden because he weren't on the bench or or didn't come off the bench in the first game well he must be going to Olympia IAS you know and again that's where the club could just be a little bit more transparent but I get now with the the way the modern game is that that it isn't so what I tried to do and again I'm not being flippant or trying to be arrogant on this point this is why I like talking about the match when you say to me do you want to come on and talk about the match I'm first one there because I love talking about football so I've got no opinion on players that have no idea about that's the best thing about just just yes he hasn't got sorry does anyone know why that's the Sor wasn't in the squad yet he just wasn't in the squad full stop was he no one knows like T says no one knows I would like I would like to think you being a squad Wednesday yeah I think he will um right people been it's been a kind of hour hour 22 minutes people um it's been a great show I'm we forget we forget we won the bloody game we're not been negative we just had opinions we won a game this guy's just wined as as he always does but no harm Dez no I'm I'm joking Dez I'm joking I think been quite quite sensible and taken on board people in the chat do you think Dez has been sens Mark and Steve will say no that's that's fine um but yeah you see this guy a flipflop l right this I've got a fan there hav I I've got a fan there he's he said lots of nice things tonight listen whatever your name is Clark thank you for watching but everyone's a flipflop everyone flop everyone wants a flipflop but is what it is but people um it's it's just m champ League here we come yes we are coming on on the way I beef our away isn't it a chat with Dave isn't there a football team IA I love I I just love to um UD IA I love to go and Dez is always sensible rookie no he's not he's like he's never sensible stop giving Dez a big Ed before will you right flipflop is what I want to know what a flip-flop is come on comment quick oh what people are com what is a flipflop everyone's a flipflop I'm a flip-flop are you a flip-flop Mark no yes you're liar you're you've got all the experience what is a flipflop I think in the terms of what they're saying in the chat it's someone who couple of weeks ago they might be singing One player's praises and then a couple of weeks later it's the changed that sort of thing believe me I've never s s is crazy Ste wait before we go still you a flipflop everyone's a flip flop everyone is a flipflop you're the bloody flipflop I'm a flip everyone's a flip-flop it is what it is I don't care what you say I am a flip-flop that's is I I can I can be sometimes in some regards but I try not to be views M Michael how much how much is De pagar why does everyone give de love on this blue CH no one else why does no one give me mar Ste no love always in bye before we go that's that's done before we um please hit the like button subscribe if you know um I've got um I was shout out to the for ladies who won 70 and I did a little Vlog for it as well so um fantastic call as well so watch out for that that'll be out tonight or tomorrow morning um so it's been a pleasure thank you everyone Newcastle game we do I'll do a short video for that um and then games on Wednesday and then we got walls Saturday so loads of videos are coming out as well um as well make sure what everyone donat to Dez coach to coach as well he's nearly up to five grand what even Kaku or even Kaku as well and before we do L as well I love a flip flop John as well he's a flipflop but so but yeah thank you for everyone and as well thank you for for the panel there's Sten Mark see you soon peace and love