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the debate will take place with vice president KL Harrison the former president I'll be back at 8:00 p.m. Eastern by the way with my colleague Bianca de Garza will'll give you pregame action and then you'll see every minute of the debate streaming live 900 P PM Eastern right here on N2 then we've got a postgame show with a lot of great analysts the former president just landed a couple of moments ago in Philly will show you uh once he gets off that plane as well he literally wrecked President Biden in the last debate now heading into this battle with a clear clear head of steam there are even pramas protesters outside of the spin room in the debate area in Philly a reminder of one of the many tough issues for the vice president to deal with tonight on that debate stage today there were also new signs of the left starting to bail on kamla who has looked pretty nervous heading into the highest profile showdown of her political career in part because of the rules Democrats agreed to of shutting down the mics of the person who's not talking that disrupted her game plan of trying to play the victim and yelling I'm speaking if she does try that line anyway tonight the former president has a pretty easy retort that's the problem you're speaking all the time not taking action on inflation the Border Afghanistan the list is long and remember the polling first it was a liberal gry lady the New York Times finding this weekend that Mr Trump is now leading nationally and poised to potentially win all seven key Battlegrounds then today fresh polls from another leftwing Bastion NPR PBS news Marist finding the former president has opened up a three-point National lead over comma and since their last poll in August get this Mr Trump has surged 14 points among Independents who decide these races and a remarkable rise of 19 points 19 points with latino voters just in the last month as the vice president was supposed to be on the rise after the late summer Democratic National Convention now K's conundrum going into tonight is and there you know you saw her yesterday arriving in Philadelphia she went behind the scenes a few moments ago to take a look at the stage she's not just losing serious altitude in the poll she's losing faith among some fellow Democrats the liberal magazine the new Republic declaring today that she cannot keep running the same peekaboo strategy the magazine saying the Trump surge points to a failure in her campaign declaring she has been coasting on vibes but now the honeymoon they said is over something California governor Gavin Nome seems to agree with I've been hearing that she's going to do more interviews for a long time now that's up that's up to the campaign and you know what I mean I'm not here to advise in that respect uh I think absolutely she should do that but that's up to her he's not here to advise but yeah she should be doing more interviews and new says I would be doing you hear the words you see the body language the political vultures on the left are starting to circle the carcass preparing the meal to sink their teeth into in 2028 if kamla gets knocked out in Philly where Rocky Balboa roast to fame though she's not exactly in tiptop shape right now politically note that ABC News revealed they will have a shorter Podium for kamla to essentially give the illusion she's taller somehow appropriate because practically everything about her rise after the hot swap with Biden has been artificial even CNN seems to be catching on after they aired this Bist ing segment last night about how Harris filled out a candidate questionnaire during her failed White House bid in 2020 in which she actually said she supports taxpayers like you paying for get this sex change operations for illegal immigrants watch tax funded gender transition surgeries for detained migrants she actually said she wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative when she was asked this I mean these are these are things that you know it would be hard to think that you would come up with taxpayer funding gender transitions for uh for detained migrants and yet this as you say written and and verbally ah when you've lost Aaron Bernett you might have a little problem tonight proving on the stage you're not a radical Marxist a message the former president his running mate Senator JD Vance have been pounding day after day when you allow 25 million people in this country it breaks down the entire social compact right so think about this okay you're down on your luck you lost your job you get unemployment insurance you're really down on your luck you need food assistance from the federal government I believe as a conservative that part of being in the same American Family whether your family's been here for a generation or 10 Generations is that we support people who are down on the luck we don't want a cradle to grave welfare state but we want to support people we don't want kids who are dying because of starvation because of no fault of their own we want to promote some basic fairness and we want to help people out when times get tough but you can't do that if you extend that generosity to tens of millions of people who can't even be here in in the first place and I think that what what KLA Harris has done at the border it's not just bad economically it's not just bad for Public Safety she has eroded the very foundation of the social contract in this country and we talk about division in our politics and kamla has this ridiculous slogan we're not going back the reason why politics is so divided is because she has turned American citizens against one another while she's placed theit the the interest of illegal aliens above American citizens interesting instead of a little sound bite I wanted you to hear the full thoughtful Nuance approach Advance has on this complicated issue a sharp contrast to kamla's cluelessness On the Border and a reminder of how far off critics were early on when they obsessed about attacking Senator Vance they questioning the wisdom of him being picked because of old comments about childless cat ladies when now we have a serious question about whether cats are being eaten alive by illegal immigrants in Springfield Ohio which happens to be Vance's home state now we are committed to the facts here at the briefing we talk about it every night so we want to be clear that Springfield's mayor and the police chief say there's no credible evidence that migrants in that Community are stealing and eating pets despite all of the reports about it fair enough let's not get ahead of the facts but let's also not let the left use that kind controversy to cover up the fact fact that the Biden Harris Administration has sent an absurd number of illegals into Ohio in this very community and in the words of the Attorney General there it's stopping the community from being overwhelmed uh right now that that these illegals are overwhelming the people there by taking absurd amounts of government benefits don't be distracted by the left charging Republicans are racis for raising questions about Haitian immigrants pay attention to the fact that the state attorney is now exploring all legal options he says to stop the community from being overwhelmed by the 20,000 Haitian immigrants who were sent there in recent years thanks to you guessed it the Biden Harris administration's migrant parole program called temporary protected status TPS thanks to their failures Springfield's population is now between 20 to 30% non-native and that small town is bursting at the seams the New York Times of all people reported the local schools have 350 new students mostly migrants and if if they're legal get an education all that they had to hire six Creole translators increasing translation cost in this one Community by $400,000 who pays that again the taxpayers because they're highing hiring Creole translators plus there's the human cost Springfield is where a Haitian migrant some months ago who did not have a valid driver's license hit a school bus and killed an 11-year-old boy killed him 23 other kids were hurt right in the Wheelhouse of what the former president has been hammering about migrant crime and Chaos I would add while kamla gets this get this has previously been quoted saying she wants to protect her words protect the migrants in this case not protect American citizens why that is why also starting with our Administration we gave TPS temporary protected status to Haitian migrants 55,000 and then more recently we extended temporary protected status to over a 100,000 haian migrants for that very reason that they need support they need protection they need protection no wonder kamla has failed with her twin mantras of she's offering a new way forward she says because we're not going back real Americans actually do want to go back to $2 a gallon gas they want to go back to cheaper groceries they want to go back to a safer Southern border basically the peace and prosperity we had under Mr Trump going back to that you see is actually moving forward from the disaster that is Biden Harris I would just advise him to answer all questions going back to One Core issue if you want change I am the change this is how he wins people are not happy with the current Administration she is in the current Administration she represents a continuation of the same yes and that's why the New York Times Sienna College poll found this weekend the former president is seen as the candidate of change pivotal here's why kamla positioned herself as the Agent of Change nobody's buying it they're not buying it in the polls and they're not buying it at this Bakery in Philly near the debate site where the blue comma cookies didn't get a lot of love you've sold thousands already and I know you've baked thousands in preparation for tonight everyone wants to know what do the sales maybe tell us about who might win the election in November talk to me about sales the sales the red is leading by a lot by a lot by a lot got the t board over here the tally was just updated you're you're new to see it but almost by 4,000 cookies as you can see and that's tremendous tremendous for us as a small business to produce this and sell this as well and see the faces that are coming around to buy these from all over absolutely and just to stress this that is not a typo former president Trump with more than 4,000 cookies sold current vice president K Harris with only about 400 this is in Battleground Pennsylvania Trump 4,000 cookies Cala couldn't even make 400 guess that's the way the cookie crumbles joining me now is a friend of the briefing the host of the Chris Alo show Mr Chris Alo and you can you can see me tomorrow by the way tomorrow 9:00 a.m. eastern with Chris right here on N2 as we simoc cast his radio show Chris good evening nice to see you buddy sometimes you could boil these complicated debates and the issues down to Simple Things They baked all these cookies and the people decided they bought 4,000 Trump cookies and not even 400 comma cookies and by the way the lady was interviewed by that CBS affiliate at the bakery she said she's struggling to make ends meet Chris because the cost of EGS are up cost of sugar and flour and everything else it seems simple to me I could just see President Trump in the debate stage did you did you see everybody the uh the cookie pole yeah that's right I'm I'm leading bigly in the uh the cookie pole as a matter of fact it's everybody I can't do a good Trump but you know I wish where's Mr farage when you need him right um yeah the cookie pole everything is sweeter under Trump 4,000 to 400 weird just skunking her I I could just see it right now but no you're right it is the simple things I think Americans are doing some some basic calculations uh saying okay was life better under President Trump was life better under Joe Biden and Camala Harris the the these two administrations one one regime and one Administration they they were back to back everybody has a comparative analysis everybody knows how they were doing and I think anybody with common sense can make the determination I am doing far worse under Camala Harris her leftwing extremism Joe Biden's leftwing ex extremism then I was under President trump it is an easy calculus for a lot of people to make and Chris the cookies at moral Lago are the best the best okay we can see that as well I can see that all right let's get down to the ingredients if you will of this debate uh it will be 90 minutes there'll be a couple of commercial breaks uh we can run through that guys in terms of a closing statement they uh tossed a coin uh two minutes per candidate Mr Trump will go la he chose to go last because he won that coin toss so he'll have the final word candidates will stand behind podiums uh she wanted to sit down and have notes by the way I noted her Podium is shorter to make her look a little taller no props or pre-written notes as comma wanted candidates get a pen pad of paper and a bottle of water and as we've been talking about the mics will be muted when the other candidate is talking no audience as well uh in the room uh what stands out for you Chris because we all know that kamla was so desperate they've leaked this out they're lowering expectations already they told Politico yesterday Joe Biden screw she always blames someone else she won't take uh you know accountability as borders are claims she wasn't says it's Joe Biden's fault because he agreed to these rules of cutting off the mics what do you think about tonight I am I don't have High Hopes uh it has been reported in some Publications that the the head of ABC narrative that's what I call them now they're not ABC News anymore they're ABC narrative the head of ABC narrative is a is a Biden appointee if the reports are correct and I'm so I don't have High Hopes the media Research Center our friends over there said that 100% of the stories about Camala Harris were glowing in positive over at ABC narrative while 97% of the stories about President Trump were negative so again as far as the the debate being stacked two to one we're kind of used to that as conservatives we shouldn't be but we are so that's when I'm I'm expecting it to a two against one Dynamic with the moderator in the solidly in the camp of Democrats now as far as the rules are concerned I know that President Trump has been getting a lot of unsolicited advice about how to handle this he I think I saw a stat today that said he will after tonight be uh the the man to to participate in the most presidential debates of any other man in in US history which I thought was kind of which I kind of thought was fascinating so I don't want to give him too much advice would just say that Camala Harris being a Pampered leftist who has been pampered and propped up by a Copic biased press from all of her career just let her talk because I have a feeling Mr Henry that she is going she is going to hang herself as she does ah and Donald Trump did a very good job of letting Biden essentially hang himself because we couldn't even figure out half the things he was saying and before that debate you remember a lot of people Tut Tut Donald Trump will lose his cool it'll be me me me he kind of sat back he was calm and cool he let Biden hang himself we'll see you mentioned something real quick about being battle tested on the debate stage let's not forget as you know better than anyone this man was also literally battle tested uh in Butler PA and the mainstream media wants to move on from that some on the left want to claim it was stage all this nonsense I found it interesting that the former first lady Melania Trump who doesn't speak out a lot on the campaign the left tries to make that issue she tries to you protect her son Baron who just started college in NYU uh and not get into the fry today she released this video about the assassination attempt let's watch the attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible distressing experience now the silence around it feels heavy I can't help but wonder why didn't law enforcement officials arise the shooter before the speech there is definitely more to this story and we need to uncover the truth what do you make of this cuz I think she's making a lot of sense I agree with her a th% as I said media's moved on the FBI and the Secret Service haven't told us a lot I think it's a disgrace that the former first lady has to be the one leading the charge on this it's been the conservative movement and president Trump's family who have been the only ones apparently who seem interested in getting into the bottom of what actually happened I think it's been a a disgraceful bit of conduct by the biased press who have been doing this in service to the Democrat Party who want to sweep it all into the rug For Crying Out Loud Ed they the Republicans who run the House of Representatives went on vacation they went on vacation instead of getting to the bottom of what happened to this assassination attempt on the leading candidate for president of the United States the way our government is conducting itself is disgusting I'm ashamed of the federal government under both Republicans and Democrats when it comes to this particular issue the leading candidate for president was shot at for crying out loud and you want to go on vacation I think I think there was no greater need to get to the bottom of the malfant that has taken root inside of our government and it seems the only people who care are we in the conservative movement and the Trump family and that's a disgraceful display by this government very well said uh Chris I'll say we appreciate you joining us every week you can see both of us tomorrow 9:00 a.m. eastern streaming right here on N2 I can't wait to see this debate and stream it tonight and talk about it with you tomorrow morning my friend yes and also marking September the 11th 2001 the 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replaced President Biden at the top of the ticket uh so there's big big expectations and we will have live coverage with the pre-show starting at 8:00 p.m. Eastern leading up to the head-to-head matchup which will last for 90 minutes starting at 9:00 p.m. Eastern ABC News will moderate it we will stream it live right here on N2 pregame with Bianca de la Garen as I mentioned 8:00 pm Eastern and it would not be a major political event in this country without our chief White House correspondent James Rosen at the center of it he's not just a Paperback Writer he is also our chief White House correspondent and joins us live from Philly uh James lot made of this New York Times poll this weekend a majority believing Mr Trump is actually the Agent of Change but that poll also found one-third of Voters say they don't know enough about the vice president and her campaign seems to think that's an opportunity for her to Define who she is tonight good evening Ed good evening I would say this evening is in fact pregnant with possibility and Peril for both nominees uh this could be a make or break moment for this entire contest previously it was never thought that presidential debates had that potential but we certainly saw it play out that way on June 27 when it effectively knocked one of the two nominees out of the race uh and you rais an interesting point about uh the vice president really still being an unknown quantity to almost onethird of the electorate that tells us a lot about the habits of our electorate and also about the Perils of being vice president uh and so this is a void that both of the nominees will be rushing to fill uh to their their own tastes and preferences uh for the vice president uh as you mentioned she is hoping to portray herself and we've seen this in her messaging to date since she replaced Mr Biden at the top of the ticket as the Agent of Change in this election you see their new F their new slogan is a new way forward she has spoken about wanting to turn the page on the bitter divisiveness of the past 10 years but it's a tough trick for the sitting vice president uh in the middle of incumbency to try and portray herself as the Agent of Change former president Trump has in substantive terms uh the greater stake or the greater claim to the mantle of being the change change agent and we will see the two of them uh try and fight that out sometimes explicitly sometimes implicitly uh but yes a lot writing on how that struggle turns out tonight Ed we played a clip earlier from Gavin Newsome the governor who you interviewed exclusively for us at the first debate with Joe Biden there in Atlanta I remember it was quite an interview uh and today he told CBS look if it were him he would have done more interviews and he'd start ramping it up a little second guessing uh briefly uh you have to wonder that effort to Define herself she's passed up a lot of opportunities to do more than the CNN joint interview with Tim Walls she's she anybody would have talked to her we would have had her on everybody would have talked to her and she's passed up that opportunity well my door to the vice president of course remains open for That interview opportunity uh but from the point of view of the Harris for president campaign uh in what might be called the first phase following uh the the change at the top of the ticket which took us all the way through the convention everything went pretty smoothly for vice president Harris they closed the gaps that uh former president Trump had opened up over President Biden uh and they had a very successful convention and they did it without the traditional media without sit-down interviews without a full-scale solo news conference uh whether that can hold after tonight's debate we will see and in fact there may be elements of tonight's debate that Force the vice president uh into that kind of setting uh we will see for both candidates a lot at stake former president Trump has to keep that 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Independents and Hispanics uh gaining steam at least with them in a new NPR PBS news poll after the weekend when the most recent New York Times Sienna College poll not only gave Mr Trump a slight onepoint Edge in the horse race more importantly that poll found a near majority believes he is not too far to the left or right occupying the political Center more than kamla Harris and after all of this president's efforts to be an agent of change 61% in that poll said he is representing change while 55% said the vice president represents quote more of the same so to break it down joining us live now as a friend of the briefing the OG of guests right here on The Duce our friend political analyst Mark Halper and Mark always good to have you and it seems to me she did not help herself for weeks on end by not doing a whole bunch of interviews other than that joint one with the governor of Minnesota she had AA a chance to sort of make the case that she's the Agent of Change and I admit she has an opportunity to do that tonight but to do it in 90 minutes uh under this pressure uh it's going to be a tough task no and if she loses this race and she loses Pennsylvania and that's the difference in the Electoral College there going to be two qu decisions she made or team made that will be second guest into the history books one will be not selecting Governor Shapiro Pennsylvania as her running mate and the other was the decision to let this debate build up to do no solo interviews or press conferences until the debate and if she has a bad performance tonight it's going to be a vast percentage of what voters learn about her and again the decision to to hide her to let her just live off the teleprompter to not interact with voters or reporters it will be it'll have been a very fiful I think you were ahead of the curve about two weeks ago hinting that there were some internal polling showing the honeymoon was ending we've talked about it here in the briefing and interesting to watch what's going on with Nate silver he's taking heat from the left because I think he's been pretty straight up about saying the polls have been tilting to Mr Trump and liberals don't like to hear that but I also want to be straight up and not just quote Nate silver when he says Mr Trump is Riding High a few moments ago he posted that in the last 24 hours some of the State polling seems to be giving KLA Harris a little bit of a rebound agree with him where do you think this is you know I wish they donated that money to charity rather than uh either paying Nate silver or doing polls before the debate I've said for a while the debates the polls I'll care about are the ones in late September after this debate tonight and after things kind of settled down there there's there's no doubt that if you take the totality of the polls that have come out in the last 24 hours pre- debate if you take them at face value there's no doubt that there's a little bit of positive news for her there overall though my focus remains on the four sunbell states that are competitive and the drift there has clearly been back to not all the way there yet but back towards Harris being where Biden was before his debate and that's not a great position to be in yeah uh in terms of the undecided sort of this shrinking pool I remember you talked about the double haters who didn't like Biden and Trump now they had a new flavor to consider but there's a very small group that is undecided a recent USA Today suffk poll said 90% of likely voters are already firmly decided 8% willing to change 2% undecided that obviously seems like a small pool what do you think a voter who you know is not dug in on Maga or against Maga what are they looking for tonight what can Donald Trump do to seal the deal well I don't think it's so much his sealing the deal affirmatively I think it's what they think about her what I hear from voters who say they're undecided and and again you want to call them double haters or just double no likers if you think Hate's not a nice word what they don't like about what she's done so far is they don't think she's been specific they think to the extent they understand what she's for they think she's too liberal and they find the cautiousness with which she's approached this this phase uh to be unappealing so from her point of view they want to know that she's got the capacity to be a strong commander-in-chief and the good stort of a good economy and the fact that they're open to voting for Donald Trump means if she disappoints them if Donald Trump succeeds in defining her as weak failed and dangerously liberal the four words that are the key to this campaign from the Trump point of view then I think he'll be able to win this here you go Mark Halpin breaking it down like no one else can we appreciate it looking forward to talking to you throughout the night Mark Halpin thank you sir thanks Ed good to see you coming up South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy mace joins us 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sacrifice in Afghanistan after that horrible uh withdrawal without a plan uh that kamla Harris has said she was the last person in the room when Joe Biden made that decision uh so I want to bring in our friend the congresswoman from South Carolina Nancy ma as we stay on this live picture of the former president's plane there Trump Force One arriving first of all congresswoman thanks for joining us yeah thank you for happen what you see in that image s of the plane is an image of Freedom an image of Liberty an image of prosperity that's what Donald Trump will bring back to the White House absolutely uh I know a lot of people around this great country agree with you uh one of those issues let's quickly talk about Afghanistan uh there was a leak last week from the Harris Camp saying that Afghanistan may be one place where she can basically throw Biden under the bus and say that was his decision but you and I both know that she did an interview uh with CNN many many months ago saying I was the last person in the room and I agreed with bid this is one of many issues where I think it's going to be hard for her to run well right and we have seen her time and time again she has lied she has OB fiscated she has flip-flopped on just about every single issue and when Donald Trump shows up to support our veterans When Donald Trump show shows up to support our gold star families she laughs at him and laughs in the face of reporters this woman does not respect our military she doesn't respect she's not respected around the world and she's going to make the United States less safe than even Joe Biden were if you were president and it's a it's a very scary Prospect but I hope that the Americans will see the truth tonight in the debate well the American people have finally seen something I've got to congratulate KL Harris on one thing she finally put some policy issues on her website it's only taken a month or so congresswoman I think you would agree with me at least there's progress here uh they say want to build an opportunity economy lower cost for families I haven't really seen that for a few years they want to safeguard our fundamental freedoms that you were talking about a moment ago and they also want to ensure safety and justice for all and keep America safe secure and prosperous I wonder why it took them so long to post these talking points and it sure does sound a lot like Donald Trump's website I swear she doesn't have an original idea come to find out anded that when they posted their policies on her website she plagiar eyes from you guessed it Joe Biden we also know she's stolen numerous policies from Donald Trump whether it's no taxes on tips whether it's yeah we definitely want to build a border wall of course Kamala you've had four years to build a border wall and you haven't built one inch let alone one mile yeah absolutely um you posted a tweet today let's have a little fun with this uh it's a picture of a cat I don't know if this is your cat or it's a it's a prop either way is is that your cat it is my cat his name is Tiger all right so I want to be clear and we said this at the top of the hour in all seriousness that the local sheriff in Ohio is saying there's no credible evidence that cats are being eaten by illegal immigrants and the left is now saying you and JD Vance are wrong and I said at the Top If You didn't hear it that that is obscuring the real issue which is that there are roughly 20,000 illegal immigrants that were dumped by the Biden Harris Administration as you know in into this small community of Springfield in Ohio and local people there as you know are saying that they're being overwhelmed that all of these illegals are coming in and taking the benefits people have lived there their whole lives can't actually get help uh when they can't afford their groceries what do you think is going on here yeah well literally the population of Springfield Ohio was 60,000 people until the Biden Harris Administration imported 20,000 some 20,000 Haitian migrants into the town and so when you think about that that's onethird of the town's Community if those numbers are correct which is insane to me that this kind of stress and strain was put on Ohio put on this local community put on this town and the people who live there and now they're dealing with the Fallout from it we've seen police footage we've seen accusations of this sort of thing everyone has seen the man with a goose uh or a duck or whatever um walking around the stories of the cats all this craziness but this is this is Biden Harris America this is what they want in our country and also by the way their policies hurt women they hurt underage girls and uh we want to make sure that America Americans know what's going on what's going to happen under a Camala Harris presidency it'll be worse than Joe Biden if it walks like a duck talks like a duck right that's what they say sounds like it's a duck yeah Congresswoman Nancy mace we appreciate 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Eastern I just want to bring you in it's going to be a lot of fun our live special coverage starts at 8 p.m. Eastern what are you looking for tonight as we wait for the former president so we know uh that Donald Trump now will be the uh the record holder right seven presidential debates under his belt tonight is number seven I'm prepared for him to go somewhat scorched Earth on her record and connect her to Biden whether it be the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan her flip-flopping on the border her policies and the economy that have devastated American workers and you know I think it's going to be pretty clear if he stays on policy he's got a real strong record now the big question mark Ed how will the moderators handle this yes and we have two ABC News moderators there's been studies showing that their coverage of KLA Harris in the last month or so since she uh went to the top of the ticket has essentially been a 100% positive they haven't really done any you know even questioning of her which is what we're supposed to do in our business and no surprise to you something like 93% of the ABC stories in recent weeks have all been negative on Donald Trump no surprise and here we are again with the only debate we have one presidential debate she's installed at the top of the ticket and we can't have more than one debate and she's refusing to do news conferences she's refusing to do sit down interviews and here is Donald Trump walking off looking like a winner there um I don't know if he has nerves or gets Jitters I know she's been practicing with somebody who looks like him uh she she's GNA need it tonight Ed what a picture and I'm glad we took it full uh there he is coming down the steps of trump Force One as you just so ay said uh he's now the going to be the record holder uh because he's run for president three times uh and has dominated uh many of of these debates going back to his fights with Hillary Clinton uh talk about that as a woman not just an outstanding anchor and journalist and friend for me uh as a woman you know a lot has been made about how KLA Harris was sort of almost desperate to have the microphones opened up so she can become a victim and say I'm speaking and stop interrupting me and obviously whether you're a man or a woman you should be respectful uh you should also challenge each other in these debates right how do you see that playing out because now they're saying the Playbook is that she wants to go him and get into some maybe some personal insults I think uh as a woman and you know it's interesting they don't want to define a Woman except when it's kamla Harris who wants to have this as a crutch right and I thank you as as a colleague and a friends you know Ed uh it's going to be historic tonight as we sit there on the set together you know I think it's a cop out I think Americans are smarter than that and I think American women realize what's at stake here not just uh for our nation but for our children and I would really hope um that people who are looking at this not people have already made up their minds okay because we know that that is you know solid base left or right but I really implore women tonight not just to look at her as someone who is is going to give them oh the first woman president look at her as somebody who has not garnered one primary vote look at her as someone who has embellished her record as a prosecutor she's been caught doing that look at her as somebody who has really brought this country um to a very perilous place with her you know you know the fact that they just put policy up and and basically she says she's going to go take on world leaders I saw how she was uh doing a lot of gaffs on the world stage I it's not that I don't want a woman president someday but I want a woman who I can really feel like has earned it and is also the the mother of a a woman um I want her to see somebody who actually has a backbone and not somebody who's just a career politician to take the nation's greatest office and really somebody who has earned the American voters uh trust and I do not think she has done that and I don't think tonight will change anyone's Minds on that uh that sets the stage I think perfectly for what will be a historic night Bianca and I will be with all of you and we're pleased and privileged to have so many great people streaming us every single night uh Bianca get a little bit of rest we'll get a little bit of food and we'll see you at 8 p.m. Eastern I'm gonna go feed my cats all right I love it we were going to talk about that but we ran out of time because we saw the former president you see that shot by the way the motorc the sun setting on Philadelphia what a night it's just beginning standby Rick lethal is next with the lethal report and then Bianca and I will be back 8:00 pm Eastern don't miss [Music] it hi folks we're back if you've been injured in an accident that's not your fault and you don't have an attorney 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have been prepping hard for this event in very different ways of course Harris holed up in a Pittsburgh Hotel doing mock debates and excuse me cramming for what's essentially her one and only final exam while former president Trump has continued his campaign and rally stops and has not stopped talking to the Press unlike Harris who has still done a grand total of one interview and she didn't do it alone of course she had Tim Walls at her side who ate up about a quarter of the less than half an hour sitdown Harris has still held no news conferences and not a single one-on-one interview since she was handed the nomination in Late July and it looks like she just might try to make it all the way to November without ever doing another interview or holding an actual news conference which is another reason why tonight is so important Harris dodging the Press has allowed her to remain vague on all of her policy positions and plans for the future and the free pass she's been given by the media also allows her to ignore and avoid any questions about her long list of flip-flops and 180 degree turns on critical issues and also allows her to dodge any responsibility for some of the more incredibly radical and far-left positions she's taken and clung to during her time as an elected official in California and during her terribly failed attempt to run for president four years ago you might not remember that since she was the first to drop out without winning a single Vote or delegate but you're not likely to forget some of the more incredibly outrageous sides she chose for example and thanks to CNN for actually reporting this in 2019 just 5 years ago when she was still a US senator representing the state of California kamla Harris filled out an ACLU questionnaire and checked yes when asked if she supported taxpayer funded gender transition surgeries for detained illegal migrants did you get that Harris said all of us taxpayers all US citizens should pay for elective surgery to change the gender of illegal immigrants caught trying to enter this country so just to be clear if someone's south of our border actually living anywhere in the world decides they want a sex change operation KLA Harris says they should just come here sneak in or get l in by her dangerously LAX border policies and then we the taxpayers will pay for their surgery it'll be free for them we're not paying for American citizens to get sex changes that would be unamerican but Harris thinks we should pay for illegals who get detained at the border we should pay for their sex change operations even though they just got caught sneaking in that would be like willingly emptying the register for an illegal migrant who walked into a movie theater without a ticket it would be like giving a car to an illegal immigrant who walked into a dealership without a nickel or a driver's license in their pocket oh and Harris also apparently told the ACLU she supports taxpayer funded sex change operations for federal prisoners too so you can murder someone and decide you now want to be a chick instead of a dude or vice versa and the government meaning taxpayers will cover that too for Killers rapists pedophiles anybody as long as you're a criminal uh excuse me Madame vice president what seriously what's wrong with you don't we have enough other stuff we need to pay for don't we have seniors and Veterans and our own fast growing homeless population whose needs maybe should take priority over illegals now flooding into America because of all the free stuff you're already giving them this might take the cake as the dumbest most radical and most ridiculous policy position of any presidential hopeful ever in the history of this country who's voting for that on her ACLU questionnaire in 2019 Harris also apparently wrote that transition treatment is a medical necessity and I will direct all federal agencies responsible for providing Essential Medical Care to deliver transition treatment a medical necessity what about all those sad cases of people who endured gender reassignment Sur surgery and then regretted it and wanted to switch back there are thousands of those people and there is mounting evidence the surgeries have questionable long-term efficacy especially with miners which is why the American Society of plastic surgeons a major medical association representing 11,000 plastic surgeons and over 90% of the field in the US and Canada is not endorsing chest or genital surgery for minors with gender dysphoria because the existing evidence they say is viewed as low quality and low certainty you know what that means it means there's uncertainty about whether the long-term benefits outweigh the harms which are huge and the uncertainty is enough to convince the American Society of plastic surgeons to just say no did you hear that Tim Walls all those kids being mutilated in your state of Minnesota which you turn into a sanctuary state for kids who want to switch sides without their parents permission the biggest organization of plastic surgeons in America doesn't support what you're doing you know what they do support Psychotherapy treating this as a mental issue especially in minors this is what happens when your Progressive policies outpace the research and the realities of life okay now back to Harris she also CNN says supports decriminalizing federal drug possession for personal use that would include heroin cocaine methamphetamine and fentol all extremely dangerous highly addictive and deadly she says fentanyl should be deep criminalized but didn't say she also didn't she also say that she was tough on the border and tough on drug trafficking especially fentanyl she said that in a campaign ad fentanyl is killing more than 74,000 Americans every year cocaine kills almost 30,000 annually meth more than 35,000 and heroin thousands more but that's okay right comma let's just decriminalize all of it or are you tough on the border and tough on fentanyl now which one is it she also famously flip-flopped on fracking Dead Set against it in 2020 and now apparently okay with it even though she says her values have haven't changed she supported defunding the police and defunding or disbanding ice which would be a weird thing for the president of this country to want to do don't you think I'm not sure if she changed her mind or or claims to on those issues because she hasn't done an interview yet well that won but you know what none of this is really a mystery just ask Bernie Sanders who believe it or not is still a US senator do you think that she is abandoning her Progressive of ideals no I don't think she's abandoning her ideals I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election there it is you see Bernie Sanders just admitted that kamla Harris is being pragmatic she's not abandoning her ideals like SE exchange operations for illegals defunding the police decriminalizing illegal immigration criminalizing hard drugs Medicare for all fracking for none she's not abandoning any of that she's just and this is the quote doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election being pragmatic and I look this up means quote dealing with things sensibly and realistically sensibly and realistically she knows she can't win the White House with her radical far-left ideals so she's just muting and masking them for now being pragmatic to try and achieve her goal and if she wins she can just stop being pragmatic and go back to destroying our country and our economy which he's been doing pretty successfully for almost four years now tonight moderators with ABC News will handle the questioning of the candidates and keep this in mind the media Research Center just did a study on 100 campaign stories involving Harris and Trump on ABC and guess what a ABC's coverage of KLA Harris has been 100% positive 100% I mean come on ABC News I just found about 50 things you could have said about her that would have been true and maybe a tad bit negative and you couldn't find any or deemed them important enough to include in your 100 stories well this won't shock you ABC's coverage of Donald Trump has been 93% negative does that sound like ABC is fair to both candidates or does it sound like Trump is Right ABC does in fact have a liberal agenda heavily favoring Democrats it sure doesn't sound like tonight's debate will be played on a Level Playing Field it definitely doesn't sound like it'll be fair so let's watch for that let's see if the moderators challenge Harris and all the things she absolutely deserves to be challenged on let's see if they Hammer her on issues the same way they do Trump we have much more on the debate starting right now let's head straight to the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia where chief White House correspondent James Rosen joins us live with more of what we can expect tonight James Rick good evening uh with respect to truth and advertising if you will we are actually at the Pennsylvania uh Convention Center a few blocks away from the national Constitution Center uh this is where we have the media filing Center and so-called spin room I'm going to ask my cameraman Juan Silva to just widen out so we can show you some of the enormity of this uh of this filing Center I have never seen Juan let's widen out uh I have never seen so many uh seats uh for so many reporters in one place in one filing Center there are close to a thousand I think uh and they aren't all filled just yet but still uh in in my own personal memory perhaps my accompaniment of President George W bush to the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics uh there was the largest sizable size or contingent of media but this is truly extraordinary uh and yes this is the big event that so many people have been waiting for you're going to see Juan uh tilt past me and keep going and just so you can see how large cavernous this filing Center is uh what we can expect to see tonight uh as these two nominees meet up in person for the first time is a struggle sometimes explicitly stated sometimes implicit in their messaging uh for who can claim the mantle of the change agent in this election former president Trump of course has in substantive terms the greater claim to being the change agent in this election after all uh he has been out of power for almost four years and would represent a stark change if he returned to power uh it's a tricky business for vice president Harris to portray herself as theair change agent after all she's in the incumbent party and she's been part of this Administration for 3 and 1/2 years so you'll see every time that vice president Harris declares what she intends to do to address this or that domestic or foreign policy problem uh even though the candidates are forbidden under the terms of uh the rules of the debate set by ABC news from posing questions to each other you'll see former president Trump pose the question to the global audience why haven't you done that already uh and so we'll see who can emerge from this with the mantle of the change agent in this election Rick you have a seat in that room I'm I'm hoping James somewhere in there yes it's it's lavish like all the other seats here uh but yes uh extraordinary to see by the way tell uh a debate that tell your cameraman there's a little button on the lens there and you and you go you push it one way and it zooms out and you push it the other way and it zooms in oh I will I'll be sure to pass this along in in just the technical lingo that you Ed thank you for that uh James we're going to check back with you later uh and yeah oh it's so true we appreciate you being there and it's it's it's telling that you haven't seen anything quite that large before I mean this is probably their one and only debate so this is their one chance journalist chance to see the two of them face off and uh I know you and I and the rest of America is chomping at the bit for this one um for more on tonight's big debate let's welcome in columnist for the American spectator Jeff Lord along with Democratic strategist and Senior lecturer of African-American studies at the University of Maryland College Park where I went for one semester Jason Nichols thank you both for joining me on debate night I think my cume at that point was 0.27 but that's another story Jeff uh who is the favorite tonight what does Harris need to do to win and what does Trump need to do to win well Harris has to defend a record and there in lies the problem and you you've already mentioned of course this is this debate is taking place in Pennsylvania as it happened I've been to the last two Trump events uh one in Johnstown and one here in Harrisburg I guarantee you tens tens and thousands of people there and particularly in the johntown area I guarantee you a lot of those people are in the fracking business and the energy business and they are not at all happy I talked to some of them they are not at all happy about her position on fracking which leads to Bernie Sanders comment that she's going to say what she's got to say to uh try and carry the carry Pennsylvania so I do think you're going to see some of that but I think president Trump is going to hold her feet to the fire on this Jason kamla Harris was Hol Up in Pittsburgh for the past 5 days reportedly practicing by working with actors posing as Donald Trump is it possible for her to defend the Biden Harris record while championing herself as the candidate for change considering she hasn't done this at a news conference or a proper and tough one-on-one to actually explain her policies can she do it tonight uh I believe so Rick I I think what she's going to do is first of all this is her first major interview uh and introduction to the American people other than the convention where she's being asked questions and she's going to be asked some difficult questions she is going to have to tie herself to the successes of the Biden Administration whether it's bipartisan infrastructure or the PCT act or lowering the cost of prescription drugs for seniors but also say that she's going to chart a different path forward and separate herself from from Biden knowing that Biden was the ultimate decider in a lot of uh the decisions that have been made she was number two but not number one and I think if anybody who's been part of any organization knows that it's the number one person that makes the the final decision you can only suggest to that person so she's going to have to spell that out for the American people in front of uh you know the millions of of Americans who are going to be watching but she also of course is going to tie herself to the successes the job growth and many of the other things that I think the Biden Administration can can tell I I I wonder if she's going to be challenged as well on her flip-flopping and her positions on issues that she now apparently doesn't hold any longer uh Jeff I want to replay the Bernie Sanders clip I use in my monologue because it's so remarkable he confirmed what we've all speculated or suspected from the beginning that Harris only cares about winning the election will say almost anything to try and do it here is Sanders on NBC's Meet the Press do you think that she is abandoning her Progressive ideals no I don't think she's abandoning her ideals I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election okay I don't have to read very far between the lines to see that what that means is she's pretending she's lying she's faking new policy positions sander basically admitting she's a phony trying to get elected you can only believe Rick that behind the scenes in the Biden campaign people were were going crazy over that and having to deal with it and as you just shown still having to deal with it so it is a problem for them uh but of course I think he spoke the truth and there in lies the real problem that uh her her her policy proposals are not quote unquote pragmatic and so therefore they're going to have to be change when the rubber meets the road Jason I want you to look at a political headline that reads Harris says Trump is going to lie during the debate prepares for untruth uh what about Harris's lies including telling the American people that Biden was and still is mentally fit for office any chance she gets pressed on that well I I think President Biden is fit to to serve as president right now uh he's not run uh you know he's he's not the guy to run right now and I think everybody accepted that I think governing and running are two very different things uh and I think that she will be pressed on some of the things that she was asked you know F four and a half five years ago uh when she was in her first campaign for the presidency but I think also Donald Trump could be pushed on some things he's flip-flopped on abortion uh several times he's also you know I remember back in 2015 when he was saying that women should be punished for seeking an abortion he's flipped on bitcoin one minute he called it a scam now he's a big fan of Bitcoin so I think there are things that both of them should be pushed on and uh I think that the ABC anchors are going to actually do that is what or at least that's what I'm uh hoping for and as far as Bernie Sanders Bernie Sanders doesn't speak for KLA Harris that's why we're having the debate just like I don't speak for her as well well he did on Sunday uh and I hope you're right I hope they do press both candidates and not just one of them which is what's been happening for the last couple of months Jeff Lord Jason Nichols thanks so much for joining me on debate night coming up this debate is likely the most important event heading into November but how are voters feeling about the two candidates right now we'll share the results of the latest polls when we come back stick with [Music] us federal agencies urge every family to have an 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like voters might finally be waking up yesterday on the show we shared with you on new New York Times Sienna poll showing Harris trailing Trump nationally by one point a considerable drop from her 3point lead just a month ago and this isn't the only voter survey showing Trump passing Harris joining me now as former attack acting attorney general and Senior fellow at American Cornerstone Institute Matthew Whitaker always a pleasure to have you on the show Matthew hi Rick what are you watching for tonight what does Trump have to do to overcome the potential bias of the moderators and Harris's word s to get his message to voters yeah I think that's a really good point and it's good to be with you I think one of the things I'm watching is obviously uh CNN got high grades for the Biden Trump debate uh because the moderators didn't insert themselves and didn't try to fact check in real time I put that in air quotes Donald Trump uh and you know give Joe Biden a pass like and I think tonight I think David mure is going to have a hard time uh with that you know because he's a mainstream media standard Bearer and I think they believe it's their job uh to interfere with this election but what I care about and what I think most Americans care about are four things and I think at the election um kind of turns in the in on these issues I think it's National Security I think it's the Border uh I think it is Law and Order and I think it's the economy I think those four issues are what the American people uh care about you know they've seen their prices Skyrock under Biden and Harris you know they feel less safe in their communities they've seen a southern border that's allowed 10 million illegal immigrants into our country that are now um you know causing major problems in in many cities and you know I think National Security the world is on fire uh and it's all because of decisions made by KLA Harris well let's let's hope they get pressed on this both of them because as we reported the ABC coverage of Harris has been 100% positive and Trump 93% negative so it does does not seem like a fair fight but I mean we're talking about Donald Trump and I think he can handle himself holding the record for the most abat of any presidential candidate this is also the first time apparently that Trump and Harris will actually meet and they're using the same rules that Trump and Biden share during that CNN debate that you mentioned they'll be standing no notes and their mics muted except when it's their turn to talk which is something Harris tried to overturn now we're hearing reports the Harris campaign is changing strategies because of Los the muted mic war with Harris now determined to quote go and needle Trump in the hopes of creating some kind of viral I'm speaking moment you know Donald pretty well what would you tell him to do yeah I think the more he is talking about his successful policies and Biden Harris failed policies I think he's winning I think the more he is talking about the issues that Americans care about uh he's winning he doesn't need to worry about the fact that kamla Harris's uh Le turn is been lower to foot to make her look uh the same height as him on the split screen he doesn't need to worry about kind of all the petty nonsense he needs to focus on his his policies that worked for the American people and will certainly work again see now I didn't know about the uh Podium being lower that's good stuff right there my friend thank you we still have almost two months 55 days to be exact until the election do you think tonight will be a distant memory by then or could it truly have a last Las ing impact on voter on voters Minds yeah Rick well in the modern America voting season that we have instead of voting day uh you know ballots are going to start hitting mailboxes uh pretty soon here especially in some of the key important swing States and so I think actually that this debate is probably going to be the most watched most impactful debate and you know I expect that Donald Trump will do really well over the 90 minutes this is the first time KLA Harris will be able to explain all of her flip-flops and policy changes and why she really no different than Joe Biden and what Americans have been experiencing over the last three and a half years and real quick Matt I want to share some video we just got of protesters outside the convention center I guess they're Pro Palestinian protesters trying to create some trouble or cause some fuss or at least uh get heard do you think this is going to be a big issue come tonight you know there's no audience uh in the uh event and so I don't think there will be any disruptions from that perspective but I think this just reminds Americans that Hamas has a candidate in this race and that is kamla Harris you know the the Democrats um have really I think uh aligned themselves with the radical anti-israel uh wing of the American political system uh it's far leftwing but that's you know 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criminal activity involving suspected members of the Venezuelan gang Trend day araga at his apartment complex Newsmax correspondent Christina Thompson I think has more on this I do want to show you some still images taken from the security footage at this El Paso Hotel according to the county attorney surveillance shows people partying drinking smoking dancing provocatively while children are present at least one gun being shot men holding knives another man with a hatchet assaulting people and causing damage to the hotel all of this in front of a security guard El Paso police officers have been called out nearly 700 times over two years to investigate criminal activity at this condemned Hotel downtown so now the County Attorney is suing the Gateway hotel's owner not only for the disruption to the community but also other allegations including operating without proper licenses and harboring members of a dangerous Venezuelan gang known as the trendee araga the trend day aragua is infiltrating neighborhoods across the country we recently reported on this Aurora Colorado apartment complex that is also struggling with the violent group and meantime Baltimore just passed scary Milestone the city making their 153rd noncitizen sex offender arrest this man M gimel Amaya was arrested and charged with rape back to you thanks for that 700 calls over two years is like one every day by the way the house Judiciary Committee holding a hearing today titled the Biden Harris border crisis victim perspective examining the effects of the administration's open border policies on American families and communities even more important today since border security and immigration will no doubt be a major topic during tonight's presidential debate border correspondent Jason Jones has a lot on this the latest from him in Austin Texas Jason a r it's good to be with you hey real quick I just want to validate that report that Christina just gave you about El Paso Texas and Trend day aragua I was on the ground there in December of 2022 when they were crossing in large numbers and then from there they spread all across Texas that's absolutely true you're talking about 700 calls from a police force can you imagine it's incredible what's happening but look let's let's get to this this discussion here what happened today at the hearings in Washington this is important because it's Illuminating the open border policies and the impact of families that look Rick you and I have been talking about extensively listen to these moms who've lost their children I just left the southern border where I spoke to border patrol and they showed me their gunshot wounds they told me their stories about how they suffered broken necks Broken Backs fractured skulls it's a war zone there we have to have some form of check and balances a real system to identify these criminals that are hiding in sheep's their wols and sheep's clothing elicit fentanyl came over the open borders illegally that killed my son it didn't give him the chance to learn from his mistake and I hold Joe Biden and Camala Harris haris responsible for my son's death Rick we've talked about fenel we've talked about all these things this open border policy has a multitude of layers and what the national media has really done here is what have they told us it's all about immigration it's all about immigration and this is exactly what I've been trying to illuminate from deadly fenel human smuggling human trafficking gangs spies Etc all Crossing that border and I I'll say it again and again Rick we are in a new era in the public safety crisis of this nation is now upon us back to you J Jason really appreciate your reporting and I really hope that those ABC anchors question Harris about those mothers testifying on Capitol Hill today because that was some powerful stuff appreciate you Jason have a good night Ukraine launching its largest drone strike against Russia coming up we'll discuss that and a whole lot more so 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this let's bring in US Deputy military representative to Nato retired Brigadier General Blaine Holt and National Security adviser under former president Donald Trump retired lieutenant colonel Tony Schaefer gentlemen great to see you Tony things seem to be escalating with Ukraine now launching its largest drone attack near Moscow the Kremlin says the attack shows Ukraine is Russia's enemy but didn't they already know that and what can we expect next in this war that won't end so I think well I think you're going to see continued exchange of Technology between the Iranians and Russia remember rck there was a credible report that I read where there's intermediate range weapons artillery and other missiles now being uh purchased or exchanged by Russia with Iran and of course with the question becomes what is Iran getting in return and one of the things I do believe they're getting is some level of coaching one of the most difficult things regarding nuclear weapons it's not necessarily building the weapon Rick believe it or not it's how do you use that weapon in some uh military form and M mounting a nuclear warhead to a missile is a very difficult task and I suspect that one of the things Russia is doing is helping coach the Iranians on that oh a little side note on that they they the Russians were present with the North Koreans on all of their nuclear tests and gave them assistance so I suspect not only are the Ians getting the uh the new Hypersonic missiles that Russia is now deploying but I think they're getting some advice so the bottom line is uh the Iranians and Russians are exchanging technology which will benefit both of them in whatever they're doing in the case of Russia it'll be going against Ukraine well Tony you just stole my next question for Blaine which was this US and Britain accusation that Iran is supplying Russia with short- range ballistic missiles to use against Ukraine and that Russia may be supplying Iran with nuclear technology which it then could presumably use against Israel so Tony spoke to this Blain uh what do you think about this Arrangement and the dangers of it I keep going back to Casa Blanka when they were saying there's gambling in the casino how how could they possibly not know that looking the other way on sanctions that allowing Iran to fill its coffers to um activate all these proxies against Israel to actively fight these wars that go all the way to Venezuela right off our Coastline that that they would behave themselves and not uh work with arms going to the Russians so that they could work their war in Ukraine um they're just upset and outrage that um Iran seems to be stepping outside of the lines where is their outrage on their nuclear program where is there outrage on uh firing missiles into Iran uh what about the the proxy wars I this is so disingenuous um yes mid-range short-range missiles are something that Russia needs and guess what uh Iran's getting a scander missiles in return so um what they should be doing is they should have held Iran responsible a long time ago seems like now they're pretty upset because they're getting stabbed in the back um maybe they'll do something but they'll probably play the domestic politics before they take any International action Tony bla I want both you to respond to this got to keep your answerers short we have 90 seconds left what can we expect from kamla Harris when dealing with Russia and Iran Tony you can begin uh she's going to pretend that she was never part of this Administration it's going to be a master class of trying to be invisible that's the way I see it she she cannot comment in any favorable way on anything from the Afghan withdrawal to the debacle with with the Iran the debacle with with Ukraine so she'll try to be invisible yeah Blaine why would the trend line go any different when you have the exact same players in National Security roles including the last person to sit in the room and the one who was the borders are that let all the fighting age men into the country what wh why yeah I want both of you guys to weigh in on this debate later and if it's not tonight I want you back tomorrow if you're not too busy cuz I really want to get your thoughts on how things went down especially in regard to foreign policy okay good good get your uh get your pizza out of the oven all right thank you I appreciate you all right we're just minutes away from our coverage of the ABC presidential debate so stick around we'll have more of the 11th Hour report and then a whole night of programming coming up [Music] I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me God wants to heal you and make you whole you only need to seek his guidance and let him in psychologist Navy veteran and former member of Congress Dr Tim Murphy presents the Christ cure find inspiration guidance and techniques to start healing through faith you need this valuable handbook get your free copy now call the number on your screen or go online to 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Palestinian protesters are in the streets my producer says he believes he saw Hamas Flags in the crowd not just Palestinian Flags but Flags celebrating the terror group Hamas which started the whole incident this ongoing war with Israel with that October 7th terror attack let's not forget that so the protests go on outside inside there are according to James Rosen at least a thousand journalists ready to cover this debate which launches in about an hour and of course Newsmax 2 will have coverage before the debate and after the debate and that coverage will begin in just a few minutes I think we have our correspondent Mike Carter inside uh that Press Room oh we're still trying to get his audio okay well he's hooked up but maybe not completely able to hear us so you can see uh the protesters in the streets at least uh that one guy isn't wearing a mask which is an issue that I've had all along when they hide their faces and ask us to take them seriously uh these guys are out front they're exercising their first amendment rights that guy uh is wearing a mask and you can see this is a very anti-israel Pro Palestinian protest just like the ones that we've seen on college campuses Across America particularly in New York City where uh a bunch of demonstrators were arrested for vandalizing stuff on campus and breaking into the library and holding it hostage for a while um I'm personally very excited about the debate coming up I can't wait to hear both candidates and I'm going to be focused particularly on on the questions and the actions and demeanor of the ABC moderators because as we heard and reported on ABC has been found to cover Harris with 100% good stuff while Trump gets 93% negative on the reports about him so can they be fair will they be fair we're going to find out very very soon that is all the time we have for this Monday edition of the lethar report I'm Rick lethal streaming live here every Monday through Friday at 400 p.m. Pacific 7:00 p.m. in Eastern as I 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of these candidates and what is basically a 5050 Dead Heat you will see every minute right here on N2 all right guys yes it's going to be history we do know that the debate kicks off in just under an hour it's the ABC debate um simal cast right here on N2 it will be 90 minutes and there are two commercial breaks the two c Ed moderators of course as you probably have heard will be David mure Lindsey Davis and they'll be the only ones according to the rules who are allowed to ask questions so the candidates cannot ask each other questions and there was that virtual coin flip that Trump won and as a result that determined Podium placement and Order of closing statements Donald Trump won that toss so he chose I think a very smart move Ed to do the closing statement two minutes and vice president Harris then will be at the right Podium position on the screen which is stage left yeah absolutely we got our first look at the debate stage a little earlier today tonight the first debate as we said between them after Biden's shock exit from the race there you are some pictures uh these podiums Bianca by the way are just six feet apart and uh I covered Congress as well as the White House for a long time and the only time these two people met was at the State of the Union Address at the end of the first Trump Administration where KLA Harris was a Senator and he was obviously president and they didn't shake hands this would be the first time they will basically be this close they've been in the same room but that was the house chamber with hundreds of people yeah you can only imagine um this is the only debate that's on the books and she did not get to change the rules so the mics are muted um that was another part of it so not only are they for the person who's not been called on it's muted so they're close and they're going to be standing there and there will be obviously I think uh uh we know um perhaps some Jitters maybe for her it's her first presidential bit Donald Trump seventh yeah and don't you think there's a a lot more riding on this than one election right I mean the whole country right now between the economy the Border crisis what's happening overseas and then you add to that if Donald Trump doesn't win this race they literally want to put him in jail the stakes couldn't be higher for him and and for her as well because she has to prove that she's not part of this failed Administration and as you said everything that is hurting American people and as we saw this summer you know RNC and DNC um we didn't think we'd be sitting here with a Harris Trump debate but we didn't know we didn't know what the future held in tonight in a few hours we'll have a clearer picture on exactly how each one of them fared our Mike Carter joins us live he is in Philadelphia he's actually in the spin room right there'll be a lot of spin tonight no doubt uh Mike how's the uh feeling there is there a lot of is there a lot of Joy a lot of Vibes there coming from some of the media who seems to want to just help kamla every Twist and Turn is there a lot of Joy a lot of Vibes well definitely Vibes we are yet to figure out what those vibes are I think we're going to know a little lot more in about an hour and a half or so as depending on how this debate goes we just saw Gavin Newsome uh who's talking to the media I asked him about uh look kamla Harris has flip-flopped on fracking we're here in Pennsylvania obviously a big fracking State uh she says her value system hasn't changed but obviously her position on that has changed she's also changed her position on the border wall she has a campaign ad now with Trump's border wall behind her so there's a number of issues that kamla Harris who just in the last 24 hours basically has put policies on her campaigns websites uh look she's Donald Trump in Wisconsin over the weekend he even said it look she's stealing all my policies it's time to give her a red Maga hat will he attack her on those issues tonight and I think the one thing that we're all us journalists here in this uh convention hall are talking about is what is that moment going to be like when Donald Trump looks at KLA Harris and says you talk about you want to do this you want to do that you want uh uh to fix this well why aren't you doing it right now and will that moment land of course there's no audience for that to land but we're going to have an audience here we're going to have about a thousand people here and there's going to be some audible oo and A's and big moments uh where people will gasp and it happened in Atlanta guys earlier this summer when about 11 minutes into that debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden you saw Joe Biden lose his train of thought and a lot lot of people gasped and we said you know I think those of us who have worked at Newsmax the last few years we've been on this we've seen those verbal gaps from Joe Biden those moments where the mental Clarity just isn't all there and a lot of us said there it is that's exactly what we've been seeing for four years now how will kamla Harris reveal herself tonight it's probably not going to be something like that but will there be uh that word salad situation that she gets into can Donald Trump lead her down at path to get her into something like that we'll wait and see things are starting to spin in the spin room back to you there you go Mike Carter thank you we'll be checking in with you throughout the night he makes a great point about that first debate and remember leading into it all the Deep fakes that the White House was talking about when we saw Joe Biden cheap fakes and whatnot wandering off and he's right we saw the video the American people saw the people uh saw the video but KL Harris and many inside the White House covered that up they did and they did the side by-side shot where uh Trump was watching Joe Biden sort of make those uh rambling statements and then when Trump was talking Joe Biden a lot of times had his mouth open it was really awkward we wonder if the abbc will use that two shot as well so much of this of course is choreographed including you know the questions that have been pr- selected here and how how how hard they will go on Trump what types of questions the line of questioning the factchecking and the followup ABC's coverage has been pretty rough on Donald Trump pretty positive for KL Harris maybe not a surprise let's bring in the All Stars here at an2 host of the pulse David Harris Jr find him at 8:00 p.m. Eastern and Rick lethal host of lethal report 700 p.m. Eastern Murderers Row uh joining us gentlemen good to have you both uh we had fun covering the Democratic National Convention together ker Harris was riding high in the polls at that time with the media adeli and the rest but David since then she's been sinking in the polls and the honeymoon seems to be over David what are you expecting tonight sir yeah the honeymoon is definitely over Ed I mean there is no getting out of of this tonight she's going to be on stage she's going to be miked up she's got to have the right answers she's got to have some answers I mean she just barely put her policies on her website uh a couple days ago yesterday I mean it's she's been hiding from the media she hasn't done any interviews the very brief moments that we've actually seen her interact with anybody trying to ask her a question it was the word salad stuff so you know there's had to be a lot of prep that went into this for her but I am super thrilled to finally allow all Americans to see what I believe is that there's not a lot of substance with Camala Harris there's only rhetoric she's going to try to attack attack attack president Trump on all the things and all the lies she even posted today saying that project 2025 is why president Trump is dangerous still tying him to that lie USA Today actually already put out a fact check saying it's not accurate so she's going to keep trying to push those lies ABC will probably let her get away with it but if president Trump sticks to what his proven record is and what her proven track record has been these last three and a half disastrous years for America it should be an open and shut case slam dunk for president Donald Trump yeah it well said I think the debate prep was necessary for her and it was awkward to see her standing there Rick in Pittsburgh when people asked how it's it going we know she was working with Philip Bryan to going to have a wig like Trump and she said oh the best part about debate prep is me being at the spice store uh that was a strange comment she always has these awkward sort of moments and imagine where we are today she was the least popular person remember they were talking about having sort of a scrambled primary then all of a sudden it's like oh wait no it's got to be her we can't skip over kamla and now she's the best thing Rick yeah well they couldn't skip over her because she was the only one who could spend Biden's $250 million that he'd already raised and Bianca you reminded me of my favorite moment of the Trump Biden debate when Biden finished mumbling about something and Donald Trump said I don't know what he said just there and I don't think he knows what he said either and I think if Trump uses those moments tonight if he can because they're not going to directly address each other but he can use the beginning of his answers to the questions to go back at something Harris had just said uh I think that's where he can score the most points because he's really good at that and she's really good at not saying anything when she Rambles and uses her word salad so if he calls her out on it and makes his points and doesn't let her blame him for everything I think he could make some real progress tonight and let's cue that soundbite you just talked about where uh Donald Trump didn't understand what Joe Biden was saying nobody did no no one else in America did either yeah the total initiative relative to what we can do with more border patrol and more Asylum officers president Trump I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence I don't think he knows what he said either D that was Unreal hey David the question now Isa what did you know and when did you know it about Biden's cognitive issues why that hopefully president Trump brings up no you're good it's it's exactly one of the points that President Trump should bring up because she was Towing the water for him she was you know he was great Joe Biden is great he's cognitive he's you know got more energy than anybody else his age that I know of and then overnight it's oh he's got to go so exactly when did she know why didn't she think that it was necessary that the American people knew what we all really believed and why they originally eventually pulled Joe off The Ticket yeah Rick I want you to jump in but I want to add one other element which is the last time they they met at least the Democrat being Biden not Harris lawfare was front and center and we were expecting a sentencing for Donald Trump at some point in the summer or fall and all that's been kicked backed it's boomeranged on the Democrats but as I mentioned at the top break there's more than an election at stake right now Donald Trump's personal freedom is at stake if he doesn't win this debate and the polls change he seems to have a slight lead right now there's a lot at stake tonight in terms of what happens to him and the country Rick yeah well I I think he's probably more focused on the country I think we all need to be more focused on the country it's a very good point though Ed law fair was a huge issue a couple months ago and he's sort of gotten a handle on that and he's gotten some favorable judgments and as he should have at least to allow this election to move forward before he winds up in another courtroom I think that's only fair U the the the thing the question that I think is most important is immigration is the Border crisis and we have those mothers testifying on Capitol Hill today and I really hope that ABC does the right thing here and forces Harris to talk about this because she hasn't she has successfully dodged this whole issue of illegals Coming to America committing vicious crimes against US citizens and and not even being deported because they're in sanctuary cities they just usually get processed and kicked back out onto the street if they go to jail they're not deported I mean the whole thing is so backwards and ridiculous and we are in so much danger and I mentioned this in my model something CNN bravely reported yesterday that Harris actually checked a box on an ACLU questionnaire back in 2019 5 years ago that she thought illegal immigrants should get taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgery okay this is the woman who wants to be president and she wants us taxpayers US citizens to fund elective surgery for illegal immigrants basically telling the whole world oh you want some free surgery just come to America illegally and we'll give it to you for nothing yeah well if he if the moderators don't press and we've seen ABC's John Carl uh go out not really press on this you expect Donald we expect Donald Trump well another thing that is unprecedent that we hadn't known back then when he was debating uh Biden is what we' see in Butler Pennsylvania Donald Trump tonight on the stage tonight surviving an assassination attempt this has been an election uh not just for the history books really for time it's incredible where we are in this moment feel superow yeah David one last question before we hit a break uh we're looking at these live pictures right now of pro Palestinian and pramas protesters outside this debate Hall the national Constitution Center in Philadelphia we've seen them obviously on college campuses the streets of America all all around this great country and David that's a reminder of this Israel Hamas War and the fact that kamla Harris refused to pick the governor of this state Pennsylvania a lot of people think because of his Jewish faith because the hard left in the Democrat Party did not want a Jew on a ticket on the on the national ticket and this is they were hoping to have the Israel Hamas War over the hostages home safely and instead we just saw six of them murdered just over a week or so ago David this is a big big issue tonight yeah it's a very big issue uh and and Cala has stuck between a rock and a hard place she's been pushing so far to the left so so seemingly very anti-israel bending over backwards for these Pro Palestinians these individuals that say inchant from The River To The Sea basically calling for a genocide of the the Jewish people it's absolutely insane to me but that's a part of The Fringe left that's a part of the Democrat Party it's not Republicans and so she's stuck but I I do think you're right as well I think that's exactly why she didn't choose the governor of Phil of of uh Philadelphia for her running for her running uh mate because he is Jewish I think would have been way too much push back so we saw this at the DNC we saw the riots and the and the the uh upheavals outside as well as a bus rolling around offering free uh you know abortions it's just it's what Americans hopefully understand has come to explain and describe the current state of the Democrat Party y it is chaos and it is destruction uh on the streets and uh sadly in the Heartland as well so we a lot of plac not just the sanctuary blue cities uh David Harris Jr Rick L fla great to have you kicking check in with them all night long too don't go anywhere our special coverage of the ABC News presidential debate simal cast right here on Newsmax 2 continues the last time we did this there was a different Democrat nominee as we noted as the former president about to knock out another Democrat we'll discuss right after this don't go [Music] it's a fact 80% of your immune system is controlled by gut bacteria and many people suffer from digestion 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with Ed Henry we have a historic night tonight our pre-debate coverage right now Senator Bernie Sanders yes kamla Harris will say anything to stay in power pretty incredible um but not surprising right I mean this is how she's going to do it to try to Pander and stay in power uh and obviously there's a lot of policies that she's going to try tonight I think to deflect from and say they're not hers but we know she owns them and she's avoided interviews other than the joint interview with her support uh Governor if you will support running mate and Tim Walls uh she hasn't really answered these big questions she finally will be under the hot lights tonight it's getting intense and we're excited we know you are as well let's discuss now with director of communications at the America First policy Institute Hilton Beckham Hilton first of all welcome hey thanks for having me on guys so uh what do you say to that because Bernie Sanders says the quiet part out loud you know no basically she's still a socialist at heart let's remember he's a socialist Senator she hasn't changed her positions despite the little statements her staff puts out Hilton and on top of that uh I remember in The danab Bash interview The Joint interview the haris said you know that that she hasn't changed her principles basically she's still a liberal at heart and I suspect that will be front and center tonight what are you anticipating oh I think so 100% And you know she I've called her the biggest yes woman to the far-left party it's almost like she doesn't really have any conviction she just says yes to anything they say her tell her to do so she can just stay in power and I think she gave herself away during the DNC when she gave her speech she told us that her mom used to tell her don't tell people who you are show them who you are okay well let's look at your record I mean past three and a half years you've been vice president you signed on two huge spending bills that caused 40-year record high inflation you pretty much annihilated our border and let 12 to 15 million illegals in ones that have raped and murdered young women and then look at your your your past as a senator you were the original co-sponsor the green new deal which pretty much would erase energy dominance for America you are a America last candidate and all you're going to do is go on stage tonight and try to flip-flop your way out of this and just say things that will keep you in power yes and as a woman I I really wanted to get your perspective here because the polls show this gender gap that there are some women uh who are still supporting her because maybe they just can't separate the policies from the person with Donald Trump but at some point we're also learning now in addition to everything you just listed she wants taxpayers to pay for illegals transgender surgeries there's the newest development but when you look at the people that are really undecided who are watching tonight Hilton and there are a lot of women women control the finances for their homes a lot of times and they're worried about their children's future I certainly hope that the moderators are asking just as many pointed questions to her than they are to Donald Trump because I just don't want to hear this threat to democracy January 6 abortion stuff and nothing about what she has done yeah well I mean just to go to back to your point about women sometimes I it just it pains me to say sometimes I don't know who to be more disappointed in someone that kamla Harris that she's actually a candidate or someone or or the women in America why aren't you opening your eyes to this we need to be more educated I know that kind of is a a lefty term but be more educated about what they stand for let's not go off of Personality go off the facts do you want to have safer communities do you want to have more money in your wallets do you want to have places for your kids to grow that are that are safe to be around good schools to send them to um but when it comes to the debate tonight unfortunately Donald Trump is going to have to do the work of the moderator he's going to have to do the work of the outlets because they're not going to push back on KLA Harris with the tough questions he's going to have to do that himself he's going to have to hold her accountable and when she lobs all these dirty attacks to him and tries to you know go below the belt he's going to have to keep composed and keep it to the facts because that's where he wins when it comes to the economy in the Border well and there was that question a few weeks ago when she was riding high in the polls can Donald Trump stick to the issues and not focus on insults and I think he answered that question love your view because he's stuck to the economy and inflation he talked about crime and how she's farle going back to her days as da in San Francisco and he's obviously hit the issue of the border and one other I would add in the last moment or so we have Hilton is these live pictures we're showing uh of the pramas protesters they've been following the campaign everywhere they'll either go to campaign events and rallies they've been to the debates like this they were at the Democrat convention in Chicago uh and nasty stuff like from The River To The Sea calling for genocide calling for Israel to be wiped off the map and this is an issue where KLA Harris has been afraid to take on the left in her party oh 100% unfortunately kamla Harris serves two masters and we all know that never works out for anybody body um and I think when she becomes president her actions are going to be her previous actions are what's going to come to the table even though she's trying to tell people that she's very pro-israel but you know my advice to Donald Trump right now you know how kamla Harris with Mike Pence used to just say you know oh I'm speaking I'm speaking let kamla do that let her speak let her get into her word salad soles Let Her Go off into what are you talking about land because tonight will be determined if KLA Harris can come off presidential and I have a hard time of believing since she has not done a lot of prep with press conferences and rallies or not rallies but press conferences and interviews that she's going to be as prepared as she should be yeah she's going to be rusty it's been a basement campaign just like they tried with Biden during Co except the media right now is there's even no basement they're helping her just sort of be shielded with the I uh headphones scooting into the plane the other day Hilton Beckham great points tonight really good to have you thanks guys appreciate it don't go anywhere special coverage of the ABC presidential debate simult us continues live right here on N2 next we're going to check in at some debate watch parties are going around the country right yeah Georgia and Nevada so stay tuned much more ahead Ed and I will be back after a very quick break right here on [Music] N2 hi 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Riley case as well putting illegal immigration and migrant crime as former president Trump calls it front and center our correspondent Carolyn Ryan is live at the Trump Force 47 watch party in smea Georgia and she joins us now live Caroline good evening what's happening people came here to help them when the ATF came for them do you know where we would be if we did not have people that were willing to sell guns and ammo where would we be we would be with in Russia with the black market Would we not so I we owe you just nailed it those are really the top issues everyone's talking about here in Georgia the border of course with lake and Riley and her tragic murder up at ug uh and the mass shooting we had crime safety on everybody's mind now this watch party guys is actually at a place called Adventure Outdoors it Brands itself as the largest gun store in the world so Second Amendment a big deal safety a big deal safety for our schools and we know in 2019 it has been Unearthed that interview that Camala Harris did where she talked about wanting to get rid of officers in school she wanted to demilitarize our schools so we hope we're going to hear more on that at the debate the folks here are talking about it here tonight in Smyrna Georgia I want to bring in a couple voters who are here in one in particular uh come on in this is Tiana and she's got a sweet sweet daughter with her um she's got a really interesting story she actually was a Democrat and she campaigned for Barack Obama down in Florida here we are now fast forward a few years and you are campaigning for Donald Trump you're here at this watch party what caused that shift well number one everything that I thought Barack stood for never happened I I wasn't a trump fan and but I listened and I really really appreciate him as our president Trump was amazing real quick as a former Democrat what do you expect to hear from KLA Harris and can you even consider her I mean she's not really a mainstream Democrat as we have come to know over the years she's so far left of that oh she's a bordar I I I don't expect anything from her I I really don't I'm I'm hoping that we can flip this thing I don't like the 50/50 it makes me very uncomfortable yeah it's close it's close here in Georgia what's your daughter's name how old is she she's my niece and she's five and this is Lulu Lulu who who's going to win the debate tonight Lulu p so who's going to Trump trump Donald Trump they said it thank you guys so much for joining us and you know it really does go through the state of Georgia a victory for Donald Trump and we just saw qu a Pak poll come out just yesterday Trump has pulled ahead in Georgia according to that poll he is up by four points over Camala Harris uh and that is outside the margin of error so we've got a pumped up crowd about 2 to 500 people they're estimating are going to be here tonight to watch watch the debate we'll be following it for you and we'll have some coverage afterwards as well we'll send it back to you we appreciate your reporting he teach him young there in Georgia uh Tuesday night it's Trump 2024 Saturday they say go dogs University of Georgia they teacher very young there but uh it's great to see a lot of people have been engaged in this election you see the enthusiasm particularly on the Republican side earlier in this race then all of a sudden there was a burst of enthusiasm for the Democrats because they had a candidate that they knew was going to go down to defeat and Joe Biden they had a new candidate they thought they had a new start new beginning ever since that convention though she there was no bounce she's been coming down and I also think it was the donor class that was more excited because they ultimately wanted to hold on to power they were upset that Joe Biden was exposed during the last debate and you had Nancy Pelosi working behind the scenes and you know George Clooney and all the elites there that one point wanted to raise all the money 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Martin of Politico my friend uh legendary political reporter and we're going to just say Hi how are the pride of Sten Islands here what's going on man so good to see you my friend we're just doing a little Walkin talk live on Newsmax thank you pal uh and then right here uh now as you see Mike show the room here this is the filing Center I've never seen so many seats for so many reporters at any event there's Andrea Mitchell of NBC News in the magenta right there and then here's my good friend David bossy famous from citizens united and his role in the Trump Administration we're live on Newsmax 2 right now oh fantastic what's your prediction for the big fight tonight oh uh Donald Trump and three going to go for the early knockout you know what um it's going to be an incredible debate Donald Trump is going to be on on his um look he's going to remind every single American about the peace and prosperity that he brought every American for four years he's going to 15 seconds what's the Trap he needs to avoid uh you know what he just needs to remind everybody about his economy his his bard of security and his National Security his peace and prosperity and remind everybody about comma Harris's uh open borders economic chaos and and destruction around the world well David bossy is someone worth listening to because there are few private citizens in American Life who've had a greater impact on the way we campaign in this country you can look it up Citizens United and uh it's great to see you David good to see you my all right next next meal is on you okay back to you Bianca all right James Rosen in blue Andrea Mitchell in magenta I think everybody's in place now I'm glad you came over and said we're live on Newsmax because if you're going to Ambush folks you got to let them know exactly what's going on uh good stuff there from the spin row thanks we let you go Corner Gavin Newsome for us in the next hit James Rosen thanks so much we'll check in with him after as well we'll have a big postgame show that's a lot of fun a lot of serious substantive issues so let's bring in a former presidential candidate a current independent candidate for Ohio's seventh congressional district seat in the US House our friend Dennis cinic Dennis first of all welcome to the show Good to be with you you know I want to get your reaction to something because I remember covering you were when you were in the Congress as a democ R times have changed and you were thorn in the side of one George W bush and Dick Cheney over the war in Iraq here is KLA Harris's reaction to getting the endorsement of Dick Cheney listen actually I'm honored to have their endorsement and I think that um what they both As Leaders who are well respected are making an important statement that um it's okay and if not important to put country above party she's talking about Liz Cheney as well endorsing I seem to remember uh Democrats calling Dick Cheney a warm criminal what does that tell you about the state of the Democrat Party Tonight heading into this debate sir well you're talking to the person who actually introduced articles of impeachment with respect to uh vice president Cheney uh every person has to make a choice as to which candidacy they feel most comfortable with and I think that uh you know was interesting to see David bossy uh laying down the marker this about peace and prosperity from Donald Trump's point of view and uh I think that from Kamala Harris's point of view she's going to be talking about her experience as vice president as a prosecutor Donald Trump may come back and say that's right Biden uh Harris Administration uh crime becomes an issue this is you're going to see a lot of mixing it up on on issues like crime abortion the economy Foreign Affairs I think it'll be a very important debate and let's face it the last time uh president Trump was in a debate with a Democratic candidate uh he knocked that candidate out so that's right yeah vice president Harris has to be very very uh careful she she does and we're going to see a lot of things because she's been shielded she's been deliberately uh not sitting down doing news conferences that one softball interview Mr with uh CNN now we have ABC um so effectively here she is at the top of the ticket many say just installed it's Donald Trump's seventh debate she's going into this with a lot of debate prep but a lot of folks um are going to question her policies when she says on day one I'll do this this and that well she's been the vice president possibly even covering up for Joe Biden there's so many vulnerabilities for her as a candidate here tonight Bianca I just want to point something out here you know now I've been in a number of Presidential debates and you have to prepare for them but there's another dimension of this a give and take with the media is a regular part of politics and the higher up you get it's better for you if you have a lot of interaction because it's like a scrum or sparring with a in a boxing uh match you have to get used to that uh that period of Engagement and that I don't think anyone has done her any favors or handlers by shielding her from the because this makes her even more vulnerable to to the scrutiny which president Trump is certainly ready to provide tonight well and Dennis yeah absolutely to your point the New York Times Sienna College poll from the weekend that suggested Donald Trump was very strong in the Battlegrounds and was the change candidate very bad news for Comm Harris had the potential good news that three out of 10 voters still didn't know enough about her maybe she could reintroduce herself tonight but to your point did she miss an opportunity in the last 3 or 4 weeks to do some of that introducing to explain her policy flip flops by but by not doing these interviews not taking tough questions maybe she missed it well candidate changing her position that's politics that's nothing new however the opportunity as you just stated to be able to explain your position explain the transition from one side to another give people an opportunity to be able to understand uh why you were uh took this position one day and a couple years later a different one like you know the border is an example the economy is another I I think that uh again it did not help the vice president uh Cala Harris to not be frequently exposed to the press and we'll see tonight if she's going to pay a price for that and I think you know I I I think you have to give it to her that she is smart uh she's served in various capacities uh the big concern I'd have for President Trump don't underestimate her because uh she could come out and surprise everybody the Democrats were smart in trying to make her the change candidate but I don't think most Americans understanding that she's been vice president uh with Joe Biden are are going to accept that and in our final 30 seconds Sir um she'll also try to Goat him and maybe try to make him look like he's attacking her as a female as a woman and that could be a pitfall for him but one that I think a lot of the media will let her get away with well look uh you know better than I do Bianca if someone seems as if they're being nasty to a woman if it's in a in a debate uh you could pay a price for that so uh yeah president Trump's gonna have to be on his best behavior in that regard however uh I don't think you're going to see him uh uh stepping away from an opportunity to go forward and question her on on issues like crime and the border and the economy you know on the border can I slip in one quick followup which is we've talked a lot the last couple days about your state of Ohio and this community of Springfield and we of course want to stick to the facts and the local sheriff has said it's been exaggerated about eating cats and the but the point is illegal immigrants are there and there's a lot of frustration that they're getting more benefits than American citizens I'm sure you hear about this uh in the Buckeye state what's the real story about illegal immigrant it used to be about Texas and Arizona border States now even Ohio has it well let me assure you as someone who has you know covered a very large area of Ohio in the in recent uh months look people are concerned about the Border they feel that the government hasn't done the right thing and those who were able to cross the border illegally are our great concern in the many communities that uh people have settled in uh this this is one of the major I think in my opinion one of the major flaws of the Biden Harris Administration abs absolutely and it's something Donald Trump has been banging as an issue since he first came down that golden escalator at Trump Tower in 2015 Dennis cines good luck in the days ahead thanks for spending some time with us on a big night thank you good to good to see both of you thank you thank you and of course won his running mate JD Vance knows too well being from the and the American dream story that he's living out now that is it interesting Parton me that at the beginning there was so much left-wing attacks on JD Vance And even some Republican hand ringing is this the right pick he's been out there in the rust Bel to your point really reeling in a lot of workingclass Voters which is what they wanted it's incredible and they even attacked him for going to Yale Tim Waltz was like I didn't go to Yale well okay so a lot of presidents did go to Ivy League colleges and it just goes to show the uh conservatives that you know are looking at somebody who has the American dream and they're saying we want all Americans to have it but the left of course sees them as a a threat he's a family man married to an Indian woman they didn't like it they had to find any shred of evidence to try and tear him down but he's been so articulate so thoughtful and really so logical with every liberal media Outlet he sat down when I met him down at the border I'm just a real 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here tonight yeah it's it's pretty insane how she is the nominee for the Democrats yet here we are she is so I think what president Trump needs to focus on are what his policies are she has no answer for what his his policy uh actions what he's he's going to attack what he's going to do when he gets in there he wants to secure the Border he wants to carry out the largest deportation operation in American history he wants to end inflation uh make America affordable again make America the dominant energy producer in the world that these are things that that Cala doesn't have an answer for she's not going to she's not going to talk about Outsourcing uh she's not going to talk about putting tariffs on other countries she's not going to talk about defending our constitution uh she's she has no answers and she has no policies and I even saw that most of her policies that she did did put on our website were actually from Joe Biden a lot of them were from Joe Biden's policies so I think if he just continues to hammer home what Americans are concerned about right now we're concerned about the Border we're concerned about the illegals that are all over this country look we're for legal immigration but come through the normal process what we see taking place all over all over the country interestingly enough in red States and red cities are illegals that are dumped off that are not assimilating that are living their own life what they're used to and they're what what they're cultural norm is I had Jack Brewer on who spents a lot of time in Haiti and he said over there in Haiti they do eat uh pet what we would call Pets so uh I think he needs to stick to the facts the border is an issue inflation's an issue Americans are concerned about it and Cala has no answers yeah no answers uh hasn't been doing those uh media interviews other than the one quick joint one with Tim Walls and so Rick I I think I saw pollster uh Frank Lun today who's not usually been a fan of Donald Trump but recently been saying look he's in El lead in this race and he said look if kamla pulls the I'm speaking Donald Trump could simply say Rick that's the problem you're speaking about a lot of things you're not really doing anything you're not shutting down the Border you're not lowering inflation you're not doing these things while you're in office you've done virtually nothing so true right right a and why haven't you done it yet if you can fix the economy why haven't you why are you making Americans suffer if you could fix the Border why didn't you don't blame that lame bill that they voted down earlier this year because first of all it was three years too late and second of all the reason we're in the position we're in is because Biden and Harris dumped all of Trump's policies that kept immigration at a manageable level kept the illegals coming in at a manageable level and Ed you and I have have hammered away at her lack of transparency her lack of doing a one-on-one interview or or a real news conference and that's a big deal deal to us because we're journalists but it should be a big deal to America because the mainstream media has given her this free pass they haven't held her feet to the fire they haven't forced her to answer the tough questions which they do to Donald Trump every single day and it's just it's not fair but it's also not okay for America that they don't really know enough about this woman that they just might vote for and I hope that tonight again these moderators put the questions to her and force her to answer them and I hope Donald Trump's paying attention CU I can't wait for him to jump all over whatever nonsense comes out of her mouth I don't think any of us can wait I see David smile he's excited we're excited David and Rick don't go anywhere uh yeah David we're gonna have you in the post game and uh we're going to have to go to you guys first because I'm going to want to uh see what you guys have to say so uh stand by enjoy the show here on N two always a pleasure to have you both and Bianca I was peing a moment ago they've got the slate ready to go with ABC News the countdown uh before they put out this live shot from the debate stage in Philadelphia uh it's just pretty intense to think about how much is riding on this one night yeah and my prediction is this is the beginning of the end for kamla Harris I don't think she has um earned the respect or the votes of American people and I think tonight you're going to see the campaign really have to do some cleanup after uh Donald Trump has a round or two with her this is his seventh presidential debate he is skilled but he also has held the nation's highest office he has been the leader of the Free World he has a record to run on and when she goes into her record um there's only there's only so many places to go yeah uh it looks good yeah absolutely uh so uh Donald Trump uh trying to uh basically Mark what would be the greatest political comeback in American history somebody who just about four years ago after January 6 was considered uh done politically uh he's come back won the GOP nomination and now trying to win the president let's go live to the debate Trump their first face-to-face meeting in this presidential election their first face-to-face meeting ever a historic race for president upended just weeks ago President Biden withdrawing after his last debate Donald Trump now up against a new opponent the candidates separated by the smallest of margins essentially tied in the polls nationally and in the key Battlegrounds including right here in Pennsylvania all still very much in play the ABC News presidential debate starts right now right now this is an ABC News special the most consequential moment of this campaign kamla Harris together we will start a new way forward Donald Trump we will soon be a great nation again face to face historic the ABC News presidential debate here now David M and Lindsay Davis good evening I'm David mure and thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News presidential debate we want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world tonight vice president kamla Harris and president Donald Trump are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for president and I'm lindsy Davis tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event of their campaigns with election day now less than two months away for vice president kamla Harris this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st of course that decision followed his debate against President Donald Trump in June since then this race has taken on an entirely new Dynamic and that brings us to the rules of tonight's debate 90 minutes with two commercial breaks no topics or questions have been shared with the campaigns the candidates will have two minutes to answer questions and this is the clock that's what they'll be seeing two minutes for rebuttal and one minute for follow-ups clarifications or responses their microphones will only be turned on when it's their turn to speak no pre-written notes aloud there is no audience here tonight in this Hall at the national Constitution Center this is an intimate setting for two candidates who have never met president Trump won the coin toss he chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening vice president Harris selected the podium to the right so let's now welcome the candidates to the stage vice president KLA Harris and president Donald Trump KLA Harris let have a good debate see you have fun thank Youk you welcome to you both it's wonderful to have you it's honor to have you both here tonight good evening we are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate so let's get started I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country vice president Harris you and president Trump were elected four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters are you better off than you were four years ago when it comes to the economy do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago so I was raised as a middle class kid and I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America I believe in the Ambitions the aspirations the dreams of the American people and that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy CU here's the thing we know that we have a a shortage of of homes and housing and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people we know that young families need support to raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000 which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time so that those young families can afford to buy a crib buy a car seat buy clothes for their children my passion one of them is small businesses I was actually my mother raised my sister and me but there was a woman who helped raise us we call her our second mother she was a small business owner I love our small businesses my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start up small businesses knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy my opponent on the other hand his plan is to do what he has done before which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit my opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's salale tax which would be a 20% tax on everyday Goods that you rely on to get through the month economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires president Trump I'll give you two minutes first of all will have no sales tax that's an incorrect statement she knows that uh we're doing tariffs on other countries other countries are going to finally after 75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and the Tariff will be substantial in some cases I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China in fact they never took the Tariff off because it was so much money they can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do they're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the Tariff so when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation uh look we've had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as a country Buster it breaks up countries we have inflation like very few people have ever seen before probably the worst in our nation's history we were at 21% but that's being generous because many things are 50 60 70 and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago this has been a disaster for people for the middle class but for every class on top of that we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African-Americans and Hispanics and also unions unions are going to be affected very soon and you see what's happening you see what's happening with towns throughout the United States you look at Springfield Ohio you look at Aurora in Colorado they are taking over the towns they're taking over buildings they're going in violently these are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out we have to get them out fast I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country I'll do it again and even better we are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate but uh I would like to let vice president Harris respond on the economy here well I would love to let's talk about what Donald Trump left us Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression Donald Trump left us the worst Public Health epidemic in a century Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War and what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess what we have done and what I in tend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people but I'm going to tell youall in this debate tonight you're going to hear from the same old tired Playbook a bunch of Lies Grievances and name calling what you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous Plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again I believe very strongly that the American people want a presid president who understands the importance of bringing us together know we have so much more in common than what separates us and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans president Trump I'll give you a minute here to respond number one I have nothing to do as you know and as she knows better than anyone I have nothing to do with project 2025 uh that's out there I haven't read it I don't want to read it purposely I'm not going to read it this was a group of people that got together they came up with some ideas I guess some good some bad but it makes no difference I have nothing to do everybody knows I'm an open book everybody knows what I'm going to do cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before we had the greatest economy we got hit with a pandemic and the pandemic was not since 1917 where 100 million people died has there been anything like it we did a phenomenal job with the pandemic we handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in nobody's ever seen anything like it we made ventilators for the entire world we got gowns we got masks we did things that nobody thought possible and people give me credit for rebuilding the military they give me credit for a lot of things but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic but the only jobs they got were bounceback jobs these were jobs bounc back and it bounced back and it went to their benefit but I was the one that created them they know it and so does everybody else vice president Harris I'll let you respond so Donald Trump has no plan for you and when you look at his economic plan it's all about tax breaks for the richest people I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy and the best economists in our country if not the world have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America what Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse mine would strengthen the economy what the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit 16 Nobel laurates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you that's just a sound bite they gave her that to say look I went to the Wharton School of finance and many of those professors the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan it's a great plan it's a plan that's going to bring up our our worth our value as a country it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and uh create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our for our country and just to finish off uh she doesn't have a plan she copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like Run Spot Run four sentences that are just oh we'll try and lower taxes she doesn't have a plan take a look at her plan she doesn't have a plan Mr President I do want to drill down on something you both brought up uh the vice president brought up your tariffs you responded and let's drill down on this because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax your proposal calls for tariffs as you pointed out here on Foreign imports across the board you recently said that you might double your plan imposing tariffs up to 20% on Goods coming into this country as you know many economists say that with tariffs at that level cost are then passed on to the consumer vice president Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas food clothing medication arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs they're not going to have higher prices what's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years I charged I was the only president ever China was is paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their Administration we are going to take in billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars I had no inflation virtually no inflation they had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time people can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or or eggs or anything else these the people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done they've destroyed the economy and all you have to do is look at a poll the polls say 80 and 85 and even 90% that the Trump economy was great that their economy was terrible vice president Harris I do want to ask for your response and you heard what the president said there because the Biden Administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place so how do you respond well let's be clear that the Trump Administration resulted in a trade deficit one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America he invited trade Wars you want to talk about his deal with China what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency he ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military basically sold us out when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century which means focusing on the details of what that requires focusing on relationships with our allies focusing on investing in american-based technology so that we win the race on AI on Quantum Computing focusing on what we need to do to support America's Workforce so that we don't end up having the on the short end of the stick in terms of workers rights but what Donald Trump did let's talk about this with covid is he actually thanked president XI for what he did during Co look at his tweet thank you president XI exclamation point when we know that she was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of covid President Trump I'll let you respond first of all they bought their chips from Taiwan we hardly make chips anymore because of uh philosophies like they have and policies like they have I don't say her because she has no policy everything that she believed 3 years ago and four years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat she's gone to My Philosophy but if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will be the end of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he taught her well but when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that pouring into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21 that's bigger than New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country they're criminals many of these people coming in are criminals and that's bad for our economy too you know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later well bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy they have and she has destroyed our country with with policy that's insane almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country president Trump thank you Lindsay I want to turn to the issue of abortion president Trump you've often touted that you were able to kill roie Wade last year you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history then last month you said that your Administration would be great for women and their Reproductive Rights in your home state of Florida you surprised many uh with regard to your six- we abortion ban because you initially had said said that it was too short and you said quote I'm going to be voting that we need more than 6 weeks but then the very next day you revers course and said you would vote to support the six- we ban vice president Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of of abortion because you've changed your position so many times therefore why should they trust you well the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is as you know the vote is they have abortion in the ninth month they even have and you can look at the governor of West Virginia the previous governor of West Virginia not the current governor is doing an excellent job but the governor before he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby in other words we'll execute the baby and that's why I did that because that predominates because they're radical the Democrats are radical in that and her vice presidential pick which I think is a horrible pick by the way for our country because he is really out of it but her vice presidential pick says abor in the 9th month is absolutely fine he also says execution after birth it's execution no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay and that's not okay with me hence the vote but what I did is something for 52 years they've been trying to get roie wade into the states and through the uh genius and and heart and strength of six Supreme Court Justices we were able ble to do that now I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and life of the mother I believe strongly in it Ronald Reagan did also 85% of Republicans do exceptions very important but we were able to get it and now states are voting on it and for the first time you're going to see look this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years every legal scholar every Democrat every Republican liberal conservative they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote and that's what happened happened now Ohio the vote was somewhat Liberal Kansas the vote was somewhat liberal much more liberal than people would have thought but each individual state is voting it's the vote of the people now it's not tied up in the federal government I did a great service in doing it it took courage to do it and the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it and I give tremendous credit to those six justices there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born Madam vice president want to get your response to president Trump well as I said you're going to hear a bunch of lies and that's not actually a surprising fact let's understand how we got here Donald Trump hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roie Wade and they did exactly as he intended and now in over 20 states there are Trump abortion Bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide Health Care in one state it provides prison for life Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest which understand what that means a survivor of a crime of violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next that is immoral and one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body I have talked with women around our country you want to talk about this is what people wanted pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot she didn't want that that her husband didn't want that a 12 or 13-year-old Survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term they don't want that and I pledge to you when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of roie Wade as president of the United States I will proudly sign it into law but understand if Donald Trump were to be reelected he will sign a National Abortion B understand in his project 2025 there would be a National Abortion a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies your miscarriages I think the American people believe that certain freedoms in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body should not be made by the government thank you vice president Harris well there she goes again it's a lie I'm not signing a ban and there's no reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what everybody wanted Democrats Republicans and everybody else and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the states and the states are voting and it may take a little time but for 52 years this issue has torn our country apart and they've wanted it back in the States and I did something that nobody thought was possible the states are now voting what she says is an absolute lie and as far as the abortion B no I'm not in favor of abortion B but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states would you veto a National Abortion ban if it well won have to because again two things number one she said she'll go back to Congress she'll never get the vote this's impossible for her to get the vote especially now with the 50/50 and essentially 50/50 in both Senate and the house she's not going to get the vote she can't get the vote she won't even come close to it so it's just talk you know what it reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it end ended up being a total catastrophe the student loans and then her I I think probably her boss if you call him a boss he spends all his time on the beach but look her boss went out and said we'll do it again we'll do it a different way and he went out got rejected Again by the Supreme Court so all these students got taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea and how unfair that would have been part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans they didn't get it for free but they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that that they talk about abortion but if I could just get a yes or no because you're running mate J JD Vance has said that you would veto if you did come to your desk well I didn't discuss it with JD in all fairness uh JD and I I don't mind if he has a certain view but I think he was speaking for me but I really didn't look we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it just like she couldn't get student loans they couldn't get student loans they didn't even come close to getting student loans they taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans they can never get this approved so it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress wonderful let's go to Congress do it but the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government and we did something that everybody said couldn't be done and now you have a vote of the people on abortion vice president Harris want to give you your time to respond but I do want to ask would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion I absolutely support reinstating the protections of roie Wade and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and and an asking for an abortion that is not happening it's insulting to the women of America and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments what is happening in our country working people working women who are working one or two jobs who can barely afford child care as it is have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable and the people of America have not the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body and that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot in red and blue States both the people of America have voted for Freedom vice president I have to respond another lie it's another lie I have been a leader on IVF which which is fertilization the IVF I have been a leader in fact when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in I've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the other thing they have not you should ask will she allow abortion in the eighth month 9th month 7eventh month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask that question why don't you answer the would you the question you could do abortions in the seventh month the eth month the nth month and probably after birth just look at the governor former governor of Virginia the governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby president Trump thank you we're going to turn now to immigration and border security we know it's an issue that's important to Republicans Democrats voters across the board uh in this country vice president Harris you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America we know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden Administration this past June President Biden imposed tough new Asylum restrictions we know the numbers since then have dropped significantly but my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until 6 months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this so I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns drugs and human beings and let me say that the United States Congress including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate came up with a border security bill which I supported and that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents On the Border to help those folks who are working there right now overtime trying to do their job it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentol coming into the United States I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by The Surge of fentol in our country that bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns drugs and human beings but you know what happened to that bill Donald Trump got on the phone called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill and you know why because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and understand this comes at a time where the people of of our country actually need a leader who engages in Solutions who actually addresses the problems at hand but what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and I'll tell you something he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight even when it's not the subject that is being raised and I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like cannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you you will not hear him talk about your needs your dreams and your need and your desires and I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will vice president Harris thank you president Trump on that point I want to get your response would like to respond let me just ask though why did you try to kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers On the Border first let me respond this to the rallies she said people start leaving people don't go to her rallies there's no reason to go and the people that do go she's busting them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light so she can't talk about that people don't leave my rallies we have the biggest rallies the most incredible rallies in the history of politics that's because because people want to take their country back our country is being lost we're a failing nation and it happened three and A2 years ago and what what's going on here you're going to end up in World War III just to go into another subject what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States and a lot of towns don't want to talk not going to be Aurora or Springfield a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it in Springfield they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there and this is what's happening in our country and it's a shame as far as rallies are concerned as far as the reason they go is they like what I say they want to bring our country back they want to make America great again it's very simple phrase make America great again she destroying this country and if she becomes president this country doesn't have a chance of success not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids I just want to clarify here you bring up Springfield Ohio and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or abused by individuals within the Immigrant Community I've SE people on television let me just say here this is the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food so maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager I'm not taking this from T people telion dog was eaten by the people that went there again the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of that vice president haris I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard you talk about extreme um you know I this is I think one of the reasons why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have forly worked with President Bush Mitt Romney and John McCain including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congress member Liz Cheney and if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear already just ask people who have worked with him his former Chief of Staff a fourstar general has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States his former National Security adviser has said he is dangerous and unfit his former Secretary of Defense has said the nation the Republic would never survive another Trump term and when we listen to this kind of rhetoric when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed I think the choice is clear in this election President Trump I'll give you a quick minute to respond here uh thank you because when I hear that see I'm a different kind of a person I fired most of those people not so graciously they did bad things or a bad job I fired them they never fired one person they didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who's who were just killed viciously and violently killed and I got to know the parents and the family they didn't fire they should have fired all those generals all those top people because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations and anybody has ever seen so when somebody does a bad job I fire him and you take a guy like esper he was no good I fired him so he writes a book another one writes a book because with me they can write books with nobody else can they but they have done such a poor job and they never fire anybody look at the economy look how look at the inflation they didn't fire any of their economists they have the same people that's a good way not to have books written about you but just to finish I got more votes than any Republican in history by far in fact I got more votes than any president sitting president in history by far let me continue on immigration it was what you wanted to talk about earlier so let's get back to your deportation uh uh proposal that the vice president has reacted to as well president Trump you call this the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country you say you would use the National Guard you say if things get out of control you'd have no problem using the US milit you also said you would use local police uh how would you Deport 11 million undocumented immigrants I know you you believe that number is much higher take us through this what does this look like will authorities be going door too in this country yeah it is much higher because of them they allowed criminals many many millions of criminals they allowed terrorists they allowed Common Street criminals they allowed people to come in drug dealers to come into our country and then now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you do you know the crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down you know why because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country and this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes but it's not worth it because they're they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done there's never been anything done like this at all they've destroyed the fabric of our country millions of people let in and all over the world crime is down all over the world except here crime here is up and through the roof despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible president Trump as you know the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country but excuse me the FBI defraud they were defrauding statements they they didn't include the worst cities they didn't include the cities with the worst crime it was a a fraud just like their number of 88,000 jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud president Trump thank you I'll let you respond vice president Harris well I think this is so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for National Security crimes economic crimes election interference has been found liable for sexual assault and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing and let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement the former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents get this on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts so let's talk about what is important in this race it is important that we move forward that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people address what we need to do about the housing shortage which I have a plan for address what we must do to support our small businesses address Bringing Down the price of groceries but frankly the American people are exhausted with this same old tired Playbook vice president Harris thank you excuse me every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent and I'm winning most of them and I will win the rest on appeal and you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court I'm winning most of them but those are cases it's called weaponization never happened in this country they weaponized the justice department every one of those cases was involved with the doj from Atlanta and fny Willis to to the uh Attorney General of New York and the da of New York every one of those cases and then they say oh he was he's a criminal they're the ones that made them go after me by the way Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case and what happened in my documents case they said oh that's the toughest of them all a complete and total Victory two months ago it was thrown out it's weaponization and they used it and it's never happened in this country they used it to try and win an election fake cases president Trump thank you a really quick response here vice president Harris on this notion of weaponization of the justice department well let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place the United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House house again understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the white house with no guard rails because certainly we know now the court won't stop him know JD Vance is not going to stop him it's up to the American people vice president har thank you lindsy vice president Harris in your last run for president weaponized please this is the one that weaponized not me she weaponized I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy I'm a threat to democracy they're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation that went nowhere we have a lot to get to vice president Harris in your last run for president you said you wanted to ban fracking now you don't you wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons now your campaign says you don't you supported decriminalizing border crossings now you're taking a harder line I know you say that your values have not changed so then why have so many of your policy positions changed so my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made but in particular let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania I made that very clear in 2020 I will not ban fracking I have not banned fracking as vice president of United States and in fact I Was the tiebreaking vote on the inflation reduction act which opened new leases for fracking my position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our Reliance on foreign oil we have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil as it relates to my values let me tell you I grew up a middle class kid raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager the values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed $0000 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes increase by 3 million homes by the end of my first term my work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather and my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable my work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams my values have not changed and what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name calling the true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down it's in lifting people up I intend to be that president president Trump your resp first of all I wasn't given 400 million I wish I was my father was a Brooklyn Builder Brooklyn Queens and a great father and I learned a lot from him but I was given a fraction of that a tiny fraction and have built it into many many billions of dollars many many billions and when people see it they are even surprised so we don't have to talk about that fracking she's been against it for 12 years uh defund the police she's been against that forever she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay they're all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like she was big on defund the police in Minnesota she went out wait a minute I'm talking now if you don't mind please does that sound familiar don't lie she went out she went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people that burned down Minneapolis she went out and raised money to get them out of jail she did things that nobody would ever think of now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison this is a radical left liberal that would do this she wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania if she won the election fracking in Pennsylvania will end on one just to finish one thing so important in my opinion so I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before they took when they took over they got rid of it started getting rid of it and the prices were going up the roof they immediately let these guys go to where they were I would have been five times four times five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago they got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were were quadrupling and doubling you saw what happened to gasoline so they said let's go back to Trump but if she won the election the day after that election they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead fossil fuel will be dead we'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out you ever see a solar plant by the way I'm a big fan of solar but they take 400 500 Acres of desert soil we good for the Environ thank you Lindsay thank you we have an election in just 56 days and and I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power which of course we all know is a Cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president uh in a moment of Crisis uh Mr President on January 6th you told your supporters to March to the capital you said you would be right there with them the country and the world saw what played out of the capital that day the officers coming under attack AIDS in the west wings say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office you did send out tweets but it was more than 2 hours before you sent out that video message uh telling your supporters to go home is there anything you regret about what you did on that day you just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically I said during my speech not later on peacefully and patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed Ashley babbit was shot by an outof control police officer that should have never ever shot her it's a disgrace but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly I ask what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in she was the Bazar remember that she was the Bazar she doesn't want to be called the Bazar because she's embarrassed by the b in fact she said at the beginning well I'm surprised you're not talking about the B yet that's because she knows what a bad job they've done what about those people what's what are they going to be prosecuted when are these people from countries all over the world not just South America they're coming in from all over the world David all over the world and crime rates are down all over the world because of it when are those David when are those people going to be prosecuted when of the people that burned down Minneapolis going to be prosecuted or in Seattle they went into Seattle they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle when are those people going to be prosecuted but let me just ask you you might ask her that question you were the president you were watching it unfold on television it's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election is there anything you regret about what you did on that day yes I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech I showed up for a speech I said I think it's going to be big I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington DC and the mayor put it back in writing as you know I said you know this is going to be a very big Rally or whatever you want to call it and again it wasn't done by me it was done by others I said I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers they rejected me Nancy Pelosi rejected me it was just two weeks ago her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened they want to get rid of that tape it would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs I wasn't responsible for security Nancy Pelosi was responsible she didn't do her job the question was about you as president not about former speaker Pelosi but I do want vice president president Harris to respond here I was at the capital on January 6th I was the vice president elect I was also an acting Senator I was there and on that day the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital to desecrate our nation's capital on that day 140 law enforcement officers were injured and some died and understand the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason but this is not an isolated situation let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying TIY torches spewing anti-semitic hate and what did the president then at the time say there were fine people on each side let's remember that when it came to the proud boys a militia the president said the former president said stand back and stand by so for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was I say we don't have to go back let's not go back we're not going back it's time to turn the page and if that was a bridge too far for you well there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country to stand for our democracy to stand for rule of law and to end the chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome and be clear on that point Donald Trump the candidate has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking let's turn the page on this let's not go back let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past let me just follow up here it was a different term and it was a term that related to energy because they have destroyed our energy business that was where bloodbath was also on Charlottesville that story has been as you would say debunked Laura Ingram Sean Hannity Jesse all of these people they covered it if they go an extra sentence they will see it was perfect it was debunked in almost every newspaper but they still bring it up just like they bring 2025 up they bring all of this stuff up I ask you this you talk about the capital why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border how come she's not doing anything and I'll tell you what I would do and I would be very proud to do it I would say we would both leave this debate right now I'd like to see her go down to Washington DC do during this debate cuz we're wasting a lot of time go down to because she's been so bad it's so ridiculous go down to Washington DC and let her sign a bill to close up the Border because they have the right to do it they don't need bills they have the right to do it the president of the United States you'll get him out of bed you'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon you'll say come on come on down to the office let's sign a bill If he if he signs a bill that the border is closed all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal if they do that the border is closed those people are killing many people unlike j6 we talked immigration here tonight I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you because it really brings us uh this into Focus Truth uh in these times that we're living in uh Mr President for three and a half years after uh you lost the 2020 election you repeatedly falsely claim that you won many times saying you won in a landslide in the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate uh you have said quote you lost by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it that you came up a little short are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020 I don't acknowledge that at all I said that sarcastically you know that and we said oh we lost by a whisker that was said sarcastically look there's so much proof all you have to do is look at it and they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval I got almost 75 million votes the most votes any sitting president has ever gotten I was told if I got 63 which was what I got in 2016 you can't be beaten the election people should never be thinking about an election is fraudulent we need two things we need walls we need and we have to have it we have to have borders and we have to have good elections our elections are bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in they're trying to get them to vote they can't even speak English they don't even know what country they're in practically and these people are trying to get them to vote and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country I did watch all of these pieces of video I I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by whisker we didn't quite make it and we should just point out here as clarification and you know this you and your allies 60 cases in front of many judges many of them and said we didn't have standing that's the other thing they said we didn't have standing a technicality can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing the president of the United States doesn't have standing that's how we lost if you look at the facts and I'd love to have you you'll do a special on it I'll show you Georgia and I'll show you Wisconsin and I'll show you Pennsylvania and I'll show you we have so many facts and statistics but you know what that doesn't matter because we have to solve the problem that we have right now that's old news and the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in Decline and they have put it into decline we have a nation that is dying David Mr President thank you uh vice president Harris you heard the president there tonight he said he didn't say that that he lost by whisker so he still uh believes he did not lose the election uh uh that was won by President Biden uh and yourself but I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days this was a post from uh president Trump about this upcoming election uh just weeks away he said when I win those people who cheated and then he lists donors voters election officials he says we be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law which will include long-term prison sentences one of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us we won't let him suppress the vote is that what you believe he's trying to here Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that but we cannot afford to have a president of the United States who attempts as he did in the past to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election and I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as vice president the United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump I have talked with military leaders some of whom worked with you and they say you're a disgrace and when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temp temperament or or the ability to not be confused about fact that's deeply troubling and the American people deserve better I'll give you one minute to respond Mr President let me just tell about world leaders Victor Orban one of the most respected men they call him a strong man he's he's a tough person smart prime minister of Hungary they said why is the whole world blowing up three years ago it wasn't why is it blowing up he said because you need Trump back as president they were afraid of him China was afraid and I don't like to use the word afraid but I'm just quoting him China was afraid of him North Korea was afraid of him look at what's going on with North Korea by the way he said Russia was afraid of him I ended the nordstream 2 Pipeline and Biden put it back on day one but he ended the XL Pipeline the XL pipeline in our country he ended that but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and head into Germany the biggest pipeline in the world look Victor Orban said it he said the most respected most feared person is Donald Trump we had no problems when Trump was president but when this weak pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate he'd be running on set of H he got no votes he got 14 million votes what you did you talk about a threat to democracy he got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office and you know what I'll give you a little secret he hates her he can't stand her but he got 14 million votes they threw them out she got zero votes and when she ran she was the first one to leave because she failed and now she's running I don't understand it but I'm okay with it because your time is up think we're going to do very well we've got a lot more to get to Turning now to the Israel Hamas War and the hostages who are still being held Americans among them vice president Harris in December you said quote Israel has a right to defend itself but you added quote it matters how saying International humanitarian law must be respected Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians you said that nine months ago now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead nearly 100 hostages remain just last week prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the making President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate how would you do it well let's understand how we got here on October 7 Hamas a terrorist organization slaughtered 1200 Israelis many of them young people who were simply attending a concert women were horribly raped and so absolutely I said then I say now Israel has a right to defend itself we would and how it does so matters because it is also true far too many innocent palestin Ians have been killed children mothers what we know is that this war must end it must when end immediately and the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out and so we will continue to work around the clock on that work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution and in that solution there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians but the one thing I will assure you always I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself in particular as it rates to as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to Israel but we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza where the Palestinians have security self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve uh president Trump how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza if I were president it would have never started if I were president Russia would have never ever I know Putin very well he would have never and there was no threat of it either by the way for four years have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you add it up far worse than people understand what's going on over there but when she mentions about Israel all of a sudden she hates Israel she wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech she refused to be there because she was at a sority party of hers she wanted to go to the sority party she hates Israel if she's president I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now and I've been pretty good at predictions and I hope I'm wrong about that one she hates Israel at the same time in her own way she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up Arabs Jewish people Israel Israel will be gone it would have never happened Iran was broke under Donald Trump now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had Iran had no money for Hamas or hezb or any of the 28 different uh spheres of Terror and they are spheres of Terror horrible Terror they had no money it was a big story and you know it you covered it very well actually they had no money for Terror they were broke now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around look at what's happening with the houis and Yemen look at what's going on in the Middle East this would have never happened I will get that settled and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended if I'm president elect I'll get it done before even becoming president vice president Harris he says you hate Israel oh that's absolutely not true I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people he knows that he's trying to again divide and and distract from the reality which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on National Security and foreign policy it is well known that he ad dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself it is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong-un and it is absolutely welln that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors and that is why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace that is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on National Security including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military vice president Harris thank you they're the ones and she's the one that caused it that's weak on National Security by allowing Every Nation last month for the year 168 different countries sending people into our country their crime weights are way down Putin endorsed her last week said I hope she wins and I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible it wouldn't have happened with me the leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent and they are they're grossly incompetent and I just ask one question why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made nordstream 2 the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe because they're weak and they're ineffective and Biden by the way get paid a lot of money thank you we have a lot of issues to get to we'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC news presidential debate from the national Constitution Center right here in 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democracy that it's in America's best interest to do so arguing that if Putin wins he may be embolden to move even further into other countries you have said you would solve this war in 24 hours you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you do that and I want to ask you a very simple question tonight do you want Ukraine to win this War I want the war to stop I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions it's the millions it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which are fake numbers look we're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are they're in for $150 billion less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO they paid billions and billions hundreds of billions of dollars when I said either you pay up or not going to protect you anymore so that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people but you take a look at what's happening we're in for 250 to 275 billion they're into 100 to 150 they should be forced to equalize with that being said I want to get the War settled I know zalinsky very well and I know Putin very well I have a good relationship and they respect your president okay they respect me they don't respect Biden how would you respect him why for what reason he hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin hasn't spoken to anybody they don't even try and get it that is a war that's dying to be settled I will get it settled before I even become president if I win when I'm President elect and what I'll do is I'll speak to one I'll speak to the other I'll get them together that war would have never happened and in fact when I saw Putin after I left unfortunately left because our our country has gone to hell but after I left when I saw him building up soldiers he did it after I left I said oh he must be negotiating it must be a good strong point of negotiation well it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him he had no idea how to stop it and now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse and it could lead to World War II don't kid yourself David we're playing with World War III and we have a president that we don't even know if he's where is our president we don't even know if he's a president just to clarify they threw him out of a campaign like a dog we don't even know is he our president but we have a president that doesn't know he's alive your time is up and with just to clarify in the question do you believe it's in the US Us best interest for Ukraine to win this war yes or no I think it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done negotiate a deal because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed I want to take this to vice president Harris I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment but also as commander-in-chief if elected how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden well first of all it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden you're running against me I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up and that's not who we are as Americans let's understand what happened here um I actually met with zalinski a few days before Russia invaded tried through Force to change territorial boundaries to defy one of the most important International rules and Norms which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity and I met with President zansky I shared with him American intelligence about how he could defend himself days later I went to NATO's Eastern flank to Poland and Romania and through the work that I and others did we brought 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense and because of our support because of the air defense the ammunition the artillery the javelins the Abrams tanks that we have provided Ukraine stands as an independent and free country if Donald Trump were President Putin would be sitting in keev right now and understand what that would mean because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military Alliance the world has ever known which is NATO and what we have done to preserve the ability of zalinski and the ukrainians to fight for their independence otherwise Putin would be sitting in keev with his eyes on the rest of Europe starting with Poland and why don't you tell the 800,000 polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch vice president Harris thank you we've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight Afghanistan came up in the last hour I I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier and please I'll I'll give you a minute here Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women but he would have been sitting in Moscow quiet please he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now but eventually you know he's got a thing that other people don't have he's got nuclear weapons they don't ever talk about that he got nuclear weapons nobody ever thinks about that and eventually uh maybe he'll use him and maybe he hasn't been that threatening but he does have that something we don't even like to talk about nobody likes to talk about it but just so you understand they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid they said the wrong things that war should have never started she was the Emissary they sent her in to negotiate with zalinski and Putin and she did and the war started three days later and that's the kind of talent we have with her she's worse than Biden in my opinion I think he's the worst president in the history of our country she goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country but let me tell you something she is a horrible negotiator they sent her in to negotiate as soon as they left Putin did The Invasion president Trump thank you you did bring up something you said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin vice president Harris have you ever met Vladimir Putin can you clarify tonight yet again I said it at the beginning of this debate you're going to hear a bunch of Lies coming from this fellow and that is another one when I went to meet with President zeni I've now met with him over five times the reality is it has been about standing as America always should as a leader upholding International rules and Norms as a leader who shows strength understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of caring about democracy and that is very much what is at stake here the president of the United States is commander and chief and the American people have a right to rely on a president president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery we've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin I do want to talk about Afghanistan it came up in in the first hour of this debate I I I wanted to move on to Afghanistan Stenberg said Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen he got these countries the 28 countries at the time to pay up he said I've never seen he's the head of NATO he said I've never seen for years we were paying almost all of NATO we were being ripped off by European nations both on trade and on NATO I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before if you don't pay we're not going to protect you otherwise we would have never gotten it he said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done thank you I want to turn to Afghanistan it came up in the first hour of the debate debate and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan I do want to ask the vice president uh do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out well I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan four presidents said they would and Joe Biden did and as a result America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war and as of today there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this Century but let's understand how we got to where we are Donald Trump when he was president negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine he calls himself a dealmaker even his National Security advisor said it was a weak terrible deal and here's how it went down he bypassed the Afghan government he negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban the negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorist Taliban terrorists released and get this no get this and the president at the time invited the Taliban to C David a place of stored significance for us as Americans a place where we honor the import of American diplomacy where we invite and receive respected world leaders and this former president as president invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the president of the United States to be commanderin-chief with a level of respect and this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military fallen soldiers and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world vice president Harris thank you president Trump your response to her saying that you began the negotiations with the Taliban so if you take a look at that period of time the Taliban was killing our soldiers a lot of them with snipers and I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing that's the Fighting Force within Afghanistan they don't bother doing that because you know they deal with the wrong people all the time but I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban he is still the head of the Taliban and I told Abdul don't do it anymore you do it anymore you're going to have problems and he said why do you send me a picture of my house I said you're going to have to figure that out Abdul and for 18 months we had nobody killed we did have an agreement negotiated by by Mike Pompeo it was a very good agreement the reason it was good it was we were getting out we would have been out faster than them but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers we wouldn't have left many Americans behind and we wouldn't have left we wouldn't have left $85 billion worth of brand new beautiful military equipment behind and just to finish they blew it the agreement said you have to do this this this this this and they didn't do it they didn't do it the agreement was was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to do and these people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and by the way that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are President Trump thank you I want to move on now to race and politics in this country Mr President you recently said a vice president Harris quote I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent I don't and I don't care I don't care what she is I don't care uh you make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less whatever she wants to be is okay with me but those were your words so I'm ask I don't know I don't know I mean all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that and then I read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me that's up to her that's up to her vice president Harris your thoughts on this I think it's I mean honestly I think it's a a tragedy that we have um someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide the American people you know I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us and especially by race and let's remember how Donald Trump started he was a a a a land he owned land he owned buildings and he he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent the Central Park 5 took out a full page ad calling for their execution this is the same individual who spread birther lies about the first black president of the United States and I think the American people want better than that want better than this want someone who understands as I do I travel our country we see in each other a friend we see in each other a neighbor we don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans Point their fingers at each other I meet with people all the time who tell me can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspiration and the Ambitions and the dreams of the American people knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks we all have the same dreams and aspirations and Want a President Who invests in those not in hate and division vice president Harris thank you Lindsay president Trump this is now your third time this is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country there's never been anything like it they're destroying our country and they come up with things like what she just said going back many many years when a lot of people including Mar Bloomberg agreed with me on the Central Park 5 they admitted they said they plead guilty and I said well if they pled guilty they badly hurt a person killed a person ultimately and if they pled guilty then they pled we're not guilty but this is a person that has to stretch back years 40 50 years ago because there's nothing now I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world and I'm going to build it again it's going to be bigger better and stronger but they're destroying our economy they have no idea what a good economy is their oil policies every single policy and remember this she is Biden you know she's trying to get away from Biden I don't know the gentleman she says she is Biden the worst inflation we've ever had a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad she can't get away with that thank you your time is up I want to respond to that though I want to just respond briefly clearly I am not Joe Biden and I am certainly not Donald Trump and what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country one who believes in what is possible one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses which is why I have a plan let's talk about our plans and and let's compare the plans I have a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their Ambitions their Innovation their ideas their hard work I have a plan $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life to help help you in that most critical stage of your child's development I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for firsttime home buyers that's the kind of conversation I believe David that people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name calling let's turn the page Harward thank you let's turn to policy let to move on President Trump let's turn to policy pleas she has a plan to defund the police she has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun president TR plan to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else that's what her plan is until just recently I just former president has said something twice that I need to respond to I'm sorry we're going we're going to move on Vice president Trump this is now your third time running for president you have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act also known as Obamacare you have failed to accomplish that you now say you're going to keep Obamacare quote unless we can do something much better last month you said quote we're working on it so tonight nine years after you first started running do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is Obamacare was lousy Health Care always was it's not very good today and what I said that if we come up with something and we are working on things we're going to do it and we're going to replace it but remember this I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it they wouldn't vote for it they were unanimous they wouldn't vote to change it if they would have done that we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare but the Democrats came up they wouldn't vote for it I had a choice to make when I was President do I save it and make it as good as it can be never going to be great or do I let it rot and I felt I had an obligation even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away I decided and I told my people the top people and they're very good people I have a lot of good people in this that Administration we read about the bad ones we had some real bad ones too and so do they they have really bad ones the difference is they don't get rid of them but let me just explain I had a choice to make do I save it and make it as good as it can be or do I let it rot and I saved it I did the right thing but it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people and what we will do is we're looking at different plans if we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people our population less money and be better health care than Obamacare then I would absolutely do it but until then I'd run it as good as it can be run so just yes or no you still do not have a plan I have concepts of a plan I'm not president right now but if we come up with something something I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive and there are Concepts and options we we have to do that and you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future vice president Harris in 2017 you supported Bernie Sanders proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run Health Care System two years later you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option what is your plan today well first of all I absolutely support and over the last four years as vice president private healthcare options but what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act but I I I'll get to that Lindsay I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made I've made very clear my position on fracking and then this business about taking everyone's guns away Tim Walls and I are both gun owners we're not taking anybody's guns away so stop with the continuous lying about this stuff as it relates to the Affordable Care Act understand let just look at the history to know where people stand when Donald Trump was President 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act 60 times I was a Senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate and the late great John McCain who you have disparaged as being you don't like him you said at the time because he got caught he was an American hero the late great John McCain I will never forget that night walked onto the senate floor and said no you don't no you don't no you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act you have no plan and what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions I don't have to tell the people watching tonight you remember what that was like remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma if someone was a breast cancer survivor if a if a grandparent had diabetes and thankfully as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you the American people Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices he never did we did and now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month since I've been Vice President we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year and when I am president we will do that for all people understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it and the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act not get rid of it in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot made a mistake at number one John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years but it wasn't only him it were all of the Democrats that kept it going and you know what we can do much better than Obamacare much less money but she won't improve private insurance for people private medical insurance that's another thing she doesn't want to get people are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait 6 months for an operation that you need immediately president Trump thank you we have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans in particular younger voters and that's climate change president Trump with regard to the environment you say that we have to have clean air and clean water vice president Harris you call climate change an existential threat the question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change and vice president Harris we'll start with you one minute for you each well the former president had said the climate change is a hoax and what we know is that it is very very real you ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences who now is either being denied home insurance or it's being jacked up you ask anybody who has been um the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home having nowhere to go we know that we can actually deal with this issue the young people of America care deeply about this issue and I am proud that as vice president over the last four years we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production to Historic levels we have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been Vice President we have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs he lost manufacturing jobs and I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Shan feain who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American made products American automobiles it includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up Auto plants not closing them like happened under Donald Trump vice president Harris thank you that didn't happen under Donald Trump let me just tell you they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month it's going they're all leaving uh they're building big Auto plants in Mexico in many cases owned by China they're building these massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States because of these people what they have given to China is unbelievable but we're not going to let that we'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any auto worker whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place what they've done to business and Manufacturing in this country is horrible horrible we have nothing because they they refuse you know Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid a millions of dollars he's afraid to do it between him and his son they get all this money from Ukraine they get all this money from all of these different countries and then you wonder why is he so loyal to this one that one Ukraine China why is he why did he get three A5 million dollar from the mayor of moscow's wife why did he get why did she pay him $3.5 millionar this is a crooked Administration and they're selling our country down the tubes president Trump thank you thank you we'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates in historic night this ABC News presidential debate from Philadelphia back in a [Music] 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past and an attempt to take us backward but we're not going back and I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us and we can chart a new way forward and a vision of that includes having a plan understanding the aspirations the dreams the hopes the ambition of the American people which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy investing in small businesses in new families and what we can do around protecting seniors what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down the cost of living I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do I'll tell you I started my career as a prosecutor I was a DA I was an attorney general a United States Senator and now Vice President I've only had one client the people and I'll tell you as a prosecutor I never asked a victim or a witness are you a Republican or a Democrat the only thing I ever asked them are you okay and that's the kind of President we need right now someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you the American people vice president Harris thank you president Trump so she just started by saying she's going to do this she's going to do that she's going to do all these wonderful things why hasn't she done it she's been there for three and 1/2 years they've had three and 1/2 years to fix the Border they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about why hasn't she done it she should leave right now go down to that beautiful white house go to the capital get everyone together and do the things you want to do but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in you believe in things like we're not going to Frack we're not going to take fossil fuel we're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong whether you like it or not Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants we're not ready for it we can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad Vision but I just ask one simple question why didn't she do it we're a failing Nation We're a nation that's in serious decline we're being lefted at all over the world all over the world they're left I know the leaders very well they're coming to see me they call me we're laughed at all over the world they don't understand what happened to us as a nation we're not a leader we don't have any idea what's going on we have wars going on in the Middle East we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine we're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons the power of Weaponry I rebuilt our entire military she gave a lot of it away to the Taliban she gave it to Afghanistan what these people have done to our country and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country many of them are criminals and they're destroying our country the worst president the worst vice president in the history of our country president Trump thank you and that is our ABC news presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the national Constitution Center I'm lindsy Davis and I'm David mu thank you for watching here in the US and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC News good [Music] night so good evening welcome back to Newsmax 2's live coverage now post debate coverage a remarkable 90 minutes or so the first ever and maybe the last Faceoff between former president Donald Trump and current vice president KLA Harris they covered a lot of ground the economy uh the border Russia Ukraine Israel Hamas but I think part of the story Bianca is clearly going to be ABC News the questions largely anti-trump and you saw David mure in particular is one of the moderators repeatedly factchecking Donald Trump and literally never factchecking KLA Harris even though she said things like I don't want to take your guns and she's literally on tape saying I want gun buybacks it's clear and Charlottesville and then when uh they pressed him on certain questions but when they asked her um in one point when it came about abortion um you know they moved right on when she didn't give a yes or no question and even in the economy it kind of started off where uh there were so many you know points that Donald Trump was hitting and she was siding are you better off than you are four years ago and uh clearly uh there were you know we'll look at some of the the high points the low points but you're right it does come down to who's asking the questions how they're asked how they driving pardon me a quick point on abortion which is in terms of the factchecking Lindy Davis claimed to fact check the former president and say there are no states where you can have essentially a late term abortion and there are at least six states as I understand it that do allow late term abortion yes and so even when even some of the fact checks of Donald Trump were not facts no and you know even at the end of the debate here um in the closing statements here Donald Trump sort of making his case were there some moments there where there were mised opportunities yes but again when you're dealing with moderators it felt sort of like a setup at times where there was a lot of time spent on abortion a lot of time spent on January 6th which encouraged the conversation that everything she capitalized on is this is looking backwards not forwards well yes because the moderators were driving it exactly in that direction a clear agenda so let's get out we're going to have a lot of analysts over the next hour hour and a half let's start with Pennsylvania Congressman Scott Perry he's a member of the House oversight and accountability uh committee they've been investigating Biden corruption and a whole lot of other important issues first of all Congressman welcome to N2 what are your Topline thoughts about tonight sir well I think that both candidates did well uh I think that kamla Harris was well scripted Ed and well prepared with uh well prepared remarks and responses I do agree with you that uh that the moderators were playing more for Camala Harris obviously than for the president factchecking him and uh and and not factchecking her letting her run on but stopping him Etc I think they both got under each other's skin but I think the president scored the victory over all because he brought back so many things that kamla Harris could not respond to and and and even herself and her answers had to acknowledge even though she didn't that she created the situation when she was talking about making a better economy and making a a you know a future for Americans while she's been presiding over the destruction of America and pardon me I want to bring Bianca in with a question but we just showed the video I I mention to both of you of a very awkward beginning to the debate when KLA Harris reaches out for a handshake and says KLA Harris you know have a good debate and we'll play it again I appreciate that um Bianca your thoughts on that I thought she was a little nervous to begin with um she did seem to get her footing Congressman Perry but you know she said that Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression that is not true um inflation has run away under these uh Biden Harris Administration and the policies there um so when you don't have moderators factchecking that um it's a serious problem and it allows her to PR perpetuate sort of this myth that they've been working hard for the American people um clearly um that is not the case she got some coaching um she lives to see another day obviously maybe didn't fall apart at the seams here well I do uh I I find it disturbing that this is uh you know we're seeing an election for the presidency of the United States and the fact that there might be only one opportunity for the American people to see the differences in these two candidates I think is stunning to me uh you know that might be okay in your local state representative or even a congressional race but for the presidency especially in the circumstance where uh the the the candidate that got all the votes was taken off the ballot and a candidate who received no votes was put on the ballot I I think that's very disturbing and I think that there should be other opportunities to hear more from her I mean she really just changed her position whether it's on fracking or or gun buyback or a number of issues she just simply changed her position and didn't describe how she came to that change and of course she wasn't pressed on it and we know that Bernie Sanders said the you know the truth out loud when he said she's just doing what's pragmatic to win the election so you have to wonder does she actually believe in these things or is she just saying them now and going to revert to who she really is her values as she says if she were to be elected and even that her policy changes even that question Congressman par was given such a light touch I believe it was lindsy Davis who delivered it it wasn't you've completely you know changed your policy you've completely you know it was delivered in such a way that it seemed almost like a blowoff like oh you just changed your mind about things no these are things that are critical and you know fracking is one for American workers in your home state also their policy on EVs and the cars they tried to she used blood bath again and didn't get fact checked when Donald Trump was talking about the Auto industry she she used that comment again um in the way that is the most deceptive when it comes to American workers that's exactly right she got away with it you know if it weren't for president Trump doing the factchecking for himself and unfortunately that's time away from the things that he would want to talk about in his own agenda but left out there on its own without any uh you know without any push back the American people might some might believe that he actually said those those kind of things regarding Charlottesville or regarding the bloodbath comment they might actually believe that so unfortunately it was left up to Donald Trump to be his own moderator because he couldn't count on the obviously biased liberal left-wing media to do their job absolutely Congressman Scott Perry we appreciate your time leading us off tonight on a big big night here on N2 thank you sir thanks Congressman thank you God bless you let's go live now uh adviser to president Trump former adviser to then President Bill Clinton Dick Morris as well as pollster John mcglaughlin from mlin and associ it's gentlemen thanks for being here Ed and Bianca dick I want to start with you on the economy which you worked uh so hard in shaping The Narrative to get Bill Clinton reelected you've talked as we say very closely and worked with former president Trump I thought right out of the gate before the moderator sort of went off the cliff with with very biased questions the first question to K Harris are we better off than we were for years ago and zeroing it on the economy I thought Donald she never answered that question number one and number two Donald Trump was very strong about how he built the greatest economy he'll do it again and said she was copying his plans and Biden plans I think at one point he said basically her plan is like four sentences it starts with Run Spot Run I thought Trump was scoring a lot on the economy your thoughts dick I I agree with that but I think overall tonight it was a disappointing night for Trump and Trump's supporters because uh Harris was able to uh to put it facade that was hard to penetrate hard to see through and if you compare what she said about herself with what well I noted be the facts about herself it was a very it was disappointing uh I think that there are so many opportunities that Trump had and needed to make more of to explain that Harris would eliminate Private health care Private health insurance it would all be from the government but to exclaim explain that you couldn't keep your cars you'd have to give them up because we El and I think that these underlying realities of the race are so important and are so well known now by the American people that I don't think this debate will stop people from focusing on them and I think Trump will continue his momentum upwards but I do believe it will be a bump in the road for Trump because he was able to because she was able to pull the wool over everybody's eyes pretty effectively I get some coaching that's uh what came into play tonight John you've been watching the numbers this gender gap we've been noticing a lot of conservative men Trump has them he has blacks and Latino very important voting block um women women May tonight have heard her stance on abortion they may have heard her talking about how she's middle class she says she wants to be the president for all people I recall Donald Trump saying that actually so again I think she's lifting his lines here and trying to um portray things at work um but what do you think women heard tonight especially in Independent Women did Donald Trump make his case to those undecided voters out there I thought president Trump's response to the abortion question was pretty pretty well done and and he he he actually at at points of that she looked a little shook but then you know I love sports metaphors because I'm a guy and this if this was a basketball game you would have taken a technical early because that's when uh Davis interrupted Trump to cor some sort of fact what she was saying wasn't true but she was protecting camela Harris and by the way you're right the only ones they did that to was Trump they interrupted him and you could see it was frustrating for the president that Donald Trump speaks about principles he speaks about passion he's he he really believes in what he's saying and he's got the facts behind him and the policies that have worked but again they were protecting her facade and they were protecting her you know she was well rehearsed she was well scried rted but they kept interrupting him and not her and they kept asking questions to put him on defense and keep her off offense because right at the end that's I'm not Joe Biden and you know they're protecting her from Joe Biden the whole time yeah in fact can uh we play uh the clip z13 guys David Mur factchecking on immigration uh the Border crisis and this whole question about pets being eaten in Ohio let's watch I just want to clarify I here you rig up Springfield Ohio and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or abused by individuals within the Immigrant Community I seen people on television let me just say here this is the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food so maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager uh uh good example dick of only factchecking Donald Trump they never said well you know Madame vice president we've checked this out or that out it was all against Trump uh but how did he do on the broader question about the Border crisis because regardless of whether dogs are being eaten or not that city in Ohio is being overrun as you know dick by illegal immigrants yeah I think Trump was very effective on immigration and I think she wasn't able to dilute that at all and her position was not a credible one and I think it's going to hurt her very badly I think that as this race unfolds people going to realize two basic facts about it number one that Harris wants to open the borders and number two that Trump is at least not a reliable supporter of pro choice and I think that the ultimate configuration of immigration versus abortion economy because inflation has which is really known as a country but I think it's really unfortunate too with the border and the moderator should have done this they said well you want you're worried about killing babies and making sure women have something that they like to call Health Care full stop it is you know Murder of a baby in your wom yet we have um child exploitation across the border they've um Democrats have voted voted down DNA testing so when a migrant child comes in they want to process them they don't want to check and see if it's a real father they don't want to talk about Lake and Riley Joselyn neray Rachel Moren the victims who were on Congress today these are all issues that the moderators I think had a responsibility to equal time bring up and as we look towards that exactly what we were saying here they directed this conversation where Trump was always on the defense John and that's really difficult even when you have the policy that was the strong border yeah and that's my point to make when they were talking she was talking about being a tough prosecutor but on the other hand she wanted to downgrade felonies human traffic felonies to something less when she was in California but the moderators didn't want to fact check that but you know that was incumbent on President Trump to bring that up and to bring it up in a in a in a factual uh you know uh way to to correct her record and to talk about her record with Joe Biden on the border and when he opposed the bipartisan uh uh deal that they wanted to have on the border well you were letting 5,000 illegal immigrants every day almost 2 million a year that's a bad deal but you know in the meantime when they're putting Donald Trump on defense the whole time and allowing her to to you know divert away from her vulnerabilities uh that's what happens when you have a biased debate and uh and and it was clear and it was just repeatedly through the whole the debate if if Donald Trump had her shook or had had her you know on the defensive on an argument or or was pushing her back into her record with with uh President Biden they would interrupt Donald Trump or steer with another question away from uh an issue where she's vulnerable so uh like I said if it was a basketball game I would have taken the tech real early I probably would gotten thrown out yeah but and you're probably better off that way point yeah dick we have 30 seconds final thought from you sir strategically this debate was a victory for trump tactically it was a victory for Harris strategically the underlying framework of the issues of illegal immigration the economy and stuffed intact but tactically in terms of each exchange haris was able to paper over her positions switch them sugarcoat them and do all kinds of moves that Trump should not have let her do that's partially the moderators fault partially Trump's but I would scor this a strategic victory for Trump but a tactical defeat ah there you go Dick Morris uh putting it on the line telling the truth there uh and laying it all out for us we appreciate that analysis uh and John mlin as well gentlemen we'll be checking in with you in the days ahead uh big election coming up obviously and uh it's just we're entering the final stretch now great to have you both thanks for that analysis we continue now our Mike Carter who's in the spin room and there will be plenty of spin we know that um Mike we're going to let you kind of uh tell us what you're seeing and hearing right now we see you're pulling the camera over to something someone's speaking take us there we've got JD Vance Bianca we're going to try to get a microphone in on them and see if we can hear from Donald Trump's running mate who's speaking to a press Gaggle right now here in the spin room Trump is going to take away their fertility treatment when in reality they're saying that cuz they don't have any solutions for the problems the American people areator Senator to help win Pennsylvania could you be a little loud sure do you think Mr Trump did anything today to help win Pennsylvania and get you over the line oh I think he did a couple things really powerfully tonight one he reminded pennsylvanians that though KLA Harris is running away from her record at every single step she wants to ban fracking KLA Harris has been explicit about wanting to ban fracking and she couldn't explain why she allegedly flip-flopped on a view that she held just a few years ago if you ban fracking like tomay Harris wants to do it's going to IM miserate and impoverish thousands of Pennsylvania citizens and it's going to jack up Energy prices by the way even higher than they've already gone up because thanks to KLA Harris's policies we've got Energy prices that are about 40% higher they're going to go a lot higher if she puts a lot of Pennsylvania frackers out of work JD Vance Donald Trump's running M talking about kamla Harris according to Donald Trump still believes that wants C haris wants to ban fracking even though she has come back around on that issue nevertheless here we are in Pennsylvania this is something that a number of Voters have told us they are on clear on and this is a 5050 race here in Pennsylvania right now guys uh Real Clear Politics last Friday came out 47.6 to 47.6 we are right down the middle at 19 electoral votes uh Pennsylvania really is the granddaddy of them all when it comes to this tight swing state race so uh we are looking for Josh Shapiro the governor of this state I'm sure he has a number of things to say about tonight we'll try to get back to you guys when we do send it back to you all right Mike Carter thank you Josh airo who was passed over as the uh vice presidential Pi Donald Trump I think effectively brought up the man who got the job instead Tim Walls and was saying this guy's a radical on a whole lot of issues he's right about that we'll see if if he he landed those punches and and what happens in the polls in the next few few days but there's a couple of gentlemen part of our Allstar who've been waiting out with baited breath to jump in here let's get right to them host of the pulse David Harris Jr joins us live as well as Rick lenthal host of the lenthal report Mr Harris welcome uh I know you've been dying to jump in here uh before the debate you were excited about this Clash of the Titans David Harris Jr how do you think it came out you know I think Dick Morris actually summed it up really very well it was very Tactical for Camala she came from prepared uh and they loaded her with so much ammunition and she actually delivered it very effectively overall and I think that uh dick shared it I saw it as well she would pad her little her little patty cake lies uh and then she would change the subject and then she would point at Trump or talk directly to him and I think that was a tactic to get him off of the lies that she had already snuck in so he didn't go he didn't have the ability to go back and call her out I also noticed she was taking notes uh he doesn't take notes he's not taking notes during the debate I know that a lot of people during a debate will take notes so they know exactly what to come back and and check off and make sure that they uh that they rebut he didn't do that and I think that's a not I think that was a mistake because there are so many lies that she that she caked in there and she would make three four five points sometimes in each section of her argument and then before she'd end it she would turn to turn to Trump she kept talking at him she was like trying to Badger him I think that's why he was not looking at her I think it was probably a good idea that he didn't look at her because she was trying to get under his skin and get him to emotionally react and respond to what she was saying and then he missed several opportunities I think to hold her feet to the fire on several lies blatant lies things that the liberal left-leaning fact Checkers have actually called her out on but overall president Trump still delivered the truth he delivered the facts uh he shared and spoke what most Americans are concerned about they're concerned about the Border they're concerned about inflation we have his record of of four years with her three and a half years record underneath Joe Biden to to look at and we can tell we our country is worse off far worse off than uh than it was underneath president trump it was a completely different story so I think overall president Trump definitely pulled it out but I just hope the American people that were watching that were on the fence go do their own research to make sure that what she was saying is the truth and they'll find out that it's not the truth and that she's lying and if she's lying about that then what else is she lying about and can she be trusted and that answer would be no she relied also David on a lot of generalities I have a plan I want this opportunity economy well Trump had opportunity zones I will be the president for everybody something he said she tried to disparage him um I thought it was really disingenuous uh Rick when she talked about Afghanistan when we saw how they treated the gold star families today's speaker Johnson was able to actually give a medal to the families there was nothing but statements on the day um of the uh anniversary and she's out there saying that his plan failed which she she was the last woman in the room a lot of things that I think um she was trying to Port herself as some type of you know world uh military like expert here and Donald Trump really was you maybe um a little bit soft touch as well on some of those things he could have pushed back on well if you're asking me I I'm just really disappointed in the unlevel playing field I'm disappointed in the fact that as John mclin said that that Trump was put on defense all night that k was never really challenged to back up statements or answer questions like as you mentioned Ed the very first question are Americans better off today than four years ago it's a simple answer and obviously we're not because of inflation but they let her Dodge that question and a bunch of others and they shaped the questions to her Advantage they talked about things that would make her look better like the abortion situation or or the January 6th issue and did they follow that up with while you were supporting giving money to the demonstrators and the protesters who were arrested who were burning buildings and Trump brought it up but the moderators didn't force Harris to answer his concerns and that really bothered me along with her condescending laughter and smiles uh at Trump as he was speaking she also tried to interrupt him several times which I don't think he did but the thing that bothers me the most and I wish uh Donald Trump had forced her to talk to this is that she was never pressured to to answer the question about the victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrants against American women American people for sure but also women and children rapes and murders and we had mothers on Capitol Hill today testifying about it yeah and they didn't bother to ask her to defend her policies or lack of policiy that have allowed millions of people in and many of them are criminals As Trump kept hammering at but again they didn't force her to answer that question and I think that is where she's most vulnerable it's astonishing and we're reporting on one every single day and you're right these are little kids in Parks these are 12 year olds like Josh Lan nungay I mean these are things the moderator should have picked up on these are innocent victims crimes and a lot of the people not only are they are legal they've been deported and they come back again I mean what would would you have that story in New York where uh 75% of people being arrested are illegal immigrants why not bring that up and say listen that's a big city a lot of Elites live in New York City they didn't even care to bring that up and that's in their backyard there yeah and to Rick's point you know I think what would have been affected is is the former president saying what do you say uh to lak and Riley's mother what do you say to the family Rachel Moren and I think I caught what you were saying there I want to add something else and if our team can tee up z20 this clip of KLA Harris Trump trying to bait the former president about the Trump rallies let's play that and we'll let David go first let's listen I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you you will not hear him talk about your needs your dreams and your need and your desires and I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will I'm going to be fair to all sides and I'll say the body language of KLA Harris who was showing a minute ago where she kept putting her hand under her chin seemed pretty ridiculous I want everyone to comment I won't shade it uh but when Donal Trump he seemed David and I heard in your first answer before David that you might be a little frustrated like I am that Donald Trump took the bait a bit there's the there's the hand on the chin you could certainly comment on that but on the rally you saw him roll his eyes and get sort of angry about Hannibal Lecter and windmills causing cancer instead of just saying look great Patriots come together and I talk about them and not me all the time I talk about lifting them up David I talk about the American dream I think he missed an opportunity and he kind of took the bait what do you think David yeah I think he definitely took the bait unfortunately a little bit more than than I wished he would have uh she definitely kept going in on him she wanted him to defend himself she wanted America to see him try to defend himself and talk about himself and defend why there's 50 80 100,000 people Plus at his rallies and so she did knock him off a little bit I think the condescending tone her it was it's kind of like a narcissistic manipulative teacher you we've had those teachers that just don't care they're never in a good mood they're not happy but they'll smile to your face while they're lying to you to then try to get you to do what they want you to do or try to get you to you know to seem away that they can just put you in your corner uh that's non-stop the whole night that was Camala I was sitting there saying I hope Americans are looking at this woman saying is that who I want to be the commanderin-chief of of my country because would just be a Flatout no there's no temperament there's there there's no proper temperament no proper uh etiquette she's not uh she's not di diplomatic uh and she was just non-stop and the lies the non-stop lies guys it was uh that that that right there for me I think it was just a lot of people are saying the exact same thing all over social media it's like it's it was horrible ABC doesn't air his rallies um but the day he was shot in Butler no one even left we all recall we all commented how there was a shooting and people were literally standing behind him on the stage it wasn't chaos and she talks about you know fictional character her whole campaign's on fiction um Rick we've got another guest that we want to bring in give us 30 seconds on that to close it well real quick I I mean that was clearly in her back pocket the the rally dig was one of those that she was ready for she's good at memorizing stuff she was good at coming up with nonsense uh blanket statements about things and also very good as a prosecutor at redirecting she was not answering questions but turning things around and going to stuff that she wanted to talk about and this is where the moderators are supposed to come in and force her to address and answer the issue and she would not do that they wouldn't do it Trump was left trying to do it um she uh was I guarantee you practicing her mocking laughter her mocking Smiles toward Trump practicing that for the last 4 days when she was holding up in the hotel room Rick you're right uh make sure you check out Rick 700 p.m. Eastern on in to uh David Harris Jr 800m Eastern on N2 thank you gentlemen uh let's keep it moving and welcome in live now Oklahoma senator Mark Wayne Mullen uh he joins us live from the site there uh in the spin room Senator what did you see tonight what are your takeaways sir well what you saw was with two sear separate candidates you saw one that is a true politician with Cala that's that's going to do and say whatever the American feels meaning that she ran a retail show tonight uh then you saw president Trump who wants to dig in and fix America and talk about policies and then you saw that he had a debate uh not one but three I mean you you saw the Lindsay facts checking one time or fact checking one time uh about saying that she's for uh full ter term abortion and then she came back and said that there wasn't a a state around that actually allows that happen well that's an absolute lie because Tim waltz's uh uh while he was governor his own state of Minnesota he vetoed a bill that would require the doctors to keep a abashed abortion baby alive and said no you have to go ahead and kill it this is this this debate was very one-sided and I I really I mean when I when I say one-sided very one-sided directed by the by the moderators and I hate to give CNN any credit here but at least CNN was somewhat balanced AB was not even hiding their bias towards president Trump news right now Senator uh we have uh just in now Harris campaign wants an October presidential debate according to a spokes person this is coming from Reuters so maybe you know maybe we'll get a second uh chance they seem to think they put Donald Trump on defense and they want a second bite of this apple what would be your recommendation of the former president he's sort of had a a small lead going into this debate she thinks she put him on on his heels should he go in again or just walk away no you know I I don't president Trump's a great debater and he's going to do what is best but there's zero chance we should do it with a left leaning media if we're going to do it let's do it with Newsmax let's do it with Fox let's do it with uh with someone that's that leads maybe our way or someone at least wants to be fair and balanced that's not what you're getting with ABC and like I said CNN did a decent job but I don't think they can do it twice um and I would love to see that see someone actually push uh kamla Harris on actually policies don't let her get away with just talking way the American people feel or the way she feels but actually talk about why she's felted as vice president as being Zar of the Border why she why she's so proud of the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal why she thinks the economy is better today than it was underneath president Trump why is it that that that the average American family right now is spending $1,085 a month which is over $113,000 a year underneath this Administration more just to survive with groceries and energy costs than they did underneath president Trump why don't we actually have those substance conversations that's actually important to the American people not continuing to dig at uh at um at president Trump and and what he did or didn't do as President we should be talking about those things and you're right if it was a different form and different moderators we would be talking about those things the things that Americans care about um but they they want to look backwards to January 6 and then they want to say Donald Trump's the one looking backwards here when they have directed that narrative the entire time and it was it was infuriating to watch that and hearing that missed opportunity to have an actual tangible debate um about the policies that she has burdened Americans with well well even even way they asked the question about January 6 when they they edited his own words by saying we'll March to the capital when he obviously said and it's been very well documented and the everybody that's actually played the clip knows that he said we're going to March to the C to the capital in a very peaceful uh in a very peaceful way um and yet they totally left that out they didn't even call her out on on uh the whole plan of 2025 when President Trump has openly said multiple times he's against it they didn't one time she said it not once not twice but three different times and they never once corrected her on that and they just want to continue to rehash old issues that they themselves are are actually telling a lie about by and by telling a lie when you're telling the half truth that's a whole lie yeah there you go uh well said Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from the great state of Oklahoma we appreciate you joining us on N2 hope you come back soon sir thank you thank you so much thanks Senator we're going to hit a quick break but our live coverage is only just beginning don't go anywhere we'll bring in a lot more of the best team on television breaking down what it was a historic night in Philadelphia 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happening you see what's happening with towns throughout the United States you look at Springfield Ohio you look at Aurora in Colorado they are taking over the town they're taking over buildings they're going in violently these are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out we have to get them out fast welcome back to n's live coverage of debate night in America and I got to tell you that may have been one of Donald Trump the former president's strongest pieces uh in focusing in on illegal immigration uh the Border crisis and issue uh that he has hammered since he first got into politics in 2015 he's beating KLA Harris on that issue by double digits has been the whole time and Bianca I would add how could he not be right absolutely one sentence review of this debate from Donald J Trump on Truth social I thought this was my best debate ever espec especially since it was three on one that might be the headline yeah a lot of people feel that way the moderators directing the questions and not um asking things about you know the Venezuelan gangs that were seeing take over Aurora which Donald Trump just alluded to he was forced to bring up all of those things time and time again because to your point that the moderators were not focused on the issues that a lot of Americans care about yes and it's not just at the border it is all across our entire nation um but again there could be another debate in the works kamla's uh spokesperson saying they want an October debate so tonight may not be the last one we'll see obviously a lot of Americans still want to know more about her and not just through the filter of some biased moderators please to bring in right now retired border patrol agent and the sheriff of Terrell County Texas Sheriff Thaddius Cleveland always good to see you sir uh you know you're on the front lines you know that the Biden doj suing Texas for trying to defend the Border dereliction of Duty by myor yet here we have moderators When Donald Trump just succinctly puts it in how dangerous it is because of their policies dismantling his border policies barely even a followup by this these moderators here she was able to sort of turn this debate into something that you know is such a Snow Job what was your reaction from down in Texas this evening howy Bianca howdy Ed good to be on the show with you great to you you know the only the only talking point that that this Administration and vice vice president Harris can use uh against President Trump and it and it's not factual is that Senate bill um look the the big difference on on the Senate Bill versus the house bill hr2 that was passed in the house and never introduced at the Senate um hr2 the house bill dealt with border security it's what we need to help secure the southern border with Mexico the Senate Bill dealt with immigration it it had nothing to do with border security it was dealing with immigration allowing people in so that's what they attempt to use with President Biden or president Trump but I I think he did a great job on the border she as she's done before just a small portion on the border and then she she changes the the topic and goes on to other things um you know we we all know in Bianca we visited many times before on the border and uh it continues to uh to be ignored and and until we get another president of the White House things aren't going to change you know Sheriff you make some great points on the border I know you're also uh intently focused on battling crime as well and if our team can uh tee up the soundbite z12 I want to show an example where crime should be front and center in this debate but it's an example of ABC's David mure quote unquote factchecking Donald Trump when in fact he wasn't really telling the truth Donald Trump was about the FBI in crime stats let's listen crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible president Trump as you know the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country but excuse me the FBI defra they were defrauding statements they they didn't include the worst cities you know Donald Trump is right the me mainstream media doesn't want to admit it Sheriff you know this those numbers by the FBI are cooked the idea that violent crime is down during the Biden Harris Administration is just obsurd Donald Trump told the truth but the moderators made him look like he was lying and again they want to take that Focus off the board and what we've seen across America across various states with the Venezuelan gangs we saw mms13 members that have kind of not that they fall off the map we're not seeing as reported much out here in the perum Basin West Texas where where we have you know Midland Odessa and and the oil and gas drilling look we've had a huge number of of Cubans and some Venezuelans coming in to drive trucks but it's increased the oil fill crime they're they're still in equipment they're still in fuel um it's a huge unchecked problem that we don't see reported a lot but going back to these Venezuelan gang members and as well as other gang members that enter our our Southwest border look until these Sanctuary not just States but Sanctuary cities counties municipalities who avoid enforcing the law and they'd rather you know utilize politics rather than enforcing law that's that's huge and Americans are suffering and will continue to suffer and it's not going to be a shortterm suffering this is going to be for decades to come and just like when we had the mariio Boat Lifts out of Cuba back in the early 80s we we suffered as a country with many of those people for decades and we're going to see the same from this last three half years of of chaos on our border we're going to see again a lot of a lot of stuff to come yeah because they they're in here and it's a systemic problem now and um you know we also cannot underscore tomorrow 23 years since 9/11 the known terrorists that uh they've captured and we just have to you know uh think about you know the people that uh may be in our country because of them come on Harris yeah thanks for coming in Sheriff pardon me uh it sounds like uh vice president Harris is speaking let's dip in live if we can together knowing the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us it is about inclusion and it is not about division and it is not about demeaning and name calling it is about lifting Folks up working folks families children people who are just not just trying to get by but trying to get ahead that's what we stand for so let's get out here for these next why are you here why per what about the [Applause] moderators why didn't you look at her all right so you can see the former president in there King us all here taking some taking some questions uh we can't really hear what he's saying we wanted to show you a little bit of the exchange why don't we go to our chief White House correspondent James Rosen you can see this is a fast moving Story the former president's in the spin room you don't always seeing candidates good evening uh I don't know if you can hear me I am trapped in this scrum of reporters surrounding the former president can you guys hear me yes yes clear James thank you we can hear you James you can hear the former president saying she lost all right James if you can hear us you're going to have to tell us what he's saying because uh the mics are a little bit far away uh what is what is the gist of the exchange with the media there well as we wave for James uh he's listening in now um we could hear them say what about the moderators very clearly the question about the moderators is going to be uh front and center here absolutely uh and you can that when Donald Trump's on Truth social saying this was my greatest debate performance yet and uh especially considering it was three onone he felt like this was KLA Harris and two ABC moderators against him whereas you know he has been public in saying that the CNN debate with Joe Biden he thought that Dana Bash and Jake Tapper were relatively Fair gave him the chance to speak they didn't spend the whole time quote unquote factchecking him and laying off Joe Biden if anything they were pretty tough on Joe Biden at what point tonight even gave David meor kind of a little bone there and threw him a bone then I started talking and the line went dead in my immediately all right are we establishing commun I think you need to cut off the James thing and give us a clean feed here uh that's obviously the former president we're rolling on all of it so we'll be able to turn media so we will hopefully uh get a read out uh from someone about exactly what he's saying so um why don't we Tony Schaefer and Blain Holt standing by with some analysis on some of the comments we heard tonight regarding uh milit Ukraine obviously was one of the issues they really pressed them on gentlemen welcomeing tonight on a historic night moderators David M was really pushing Donald Trump on whether or not um Ukraine needs to win the war um they're trying to say he dodged I think he his his answer was quite frankly the right one saying we we don't want people to die and people are dying every single day not just in Ukraine but all these other conflicts that started under his watch bla I'll let you kick it off here on the way they phrase the Ukraine question and kind of um put on the defensive yeah so the president said something tonight that I think will bear out over time it it was a seed he planted tonight for another day and that is that far more people he's declaring Millions far more people have died in this war than has actually been uh reported David mirer sounded actually very Elementary schoolish if you if to tr try I'm not trying to be snarky I'm just saying it's such a basic question to say you you want to win the war you don't want to win the war well we're that ship is sailed we're well beyond that um David Mir is not paying attention to the facts on the ground in the Ukraine he's not looking at um the Russians breaking through the entire contact line and that uh we're not getting anywhere with this K incursion and the zalinsky government is in trouble this night because we've only thrown weapons and money at this we haven't thrown strategy and diplomacy at this and the president pointed out we could have avoided this and there is an off-ramp to this war and and David Mir didn't go there and and okay is it really an advantage I mean you know they were trying to get him on a Putin thing that's really what it is Tony I mean that's exactly what they're trying well Putin is actually the one endorsing Kamala and trolling the election real quickly team can we can we listen in here do we have this feed up if we do we want to take folks there you think you're going to lose the Haitian vote with these claims about I really don't know I mean I really don't know I just say all I do is say the truth I say the truth if I lose votes or gain votes I don't care but uh this was my best debate I thought it was very good I thought she was very weak on foreign policy did she was very weak in the border and uh I'm very happy with Mr President five times by the moderators Mr President everybody's got step back everybody's got to step back step back please everybody step back step back back everybody got to step back everybody got to step back we even have a St anymore you're on step back step back back we got to close it off assassination attempt obviously in Butler PA there's been a bigger Secret Service surround him Beyond weapons uh you always have to protect a president or former president in terms of people eventually surrounding him uh and potentially doing harm even if it doesn't appear like they might if they're sort of a mob uh the only point I would make about that and I want to get Tony's reaction on National Security it's an evolving story so it's great that Bianca went in there because we're trying to hear what he's saying and you heard some of it there my biggest takeaway though is you never see KLA Harris talking to dozens of report ERS this man just came out of a debate for 90 minutes and is willing to take any question that CNN Newsmax ABC wants to throw his way Tony feel free to react to that as well as what Blaine was saying about the significance of what they said and didn't say on National Security well I I came away with three Deeds first is demeanor you just brought out a key point the demeanor of the president is amazing he just speaks uh her demeanor uh look I've been at high level meetings with senior level leaders of foreign countries blae has two some of her Faces tonight would have never played in an international stage I'm just going to say this direct about it tulsey Gabbert would have showed great restraint and would have never shown emotion and I think you get to that level and uh she actually talked over Trump at least three times uh that she's not ready for prime time regarding the fact that she's going to have to deal with leaders who will be much more provocative than Donald Trump to get under her skin so I don't think she handle well second D is decision making just decisiv she walked right into that buzs saww when she talked about being the person negotiating with zalinski trying to get zalinsky already being the one behind the scenes doing that she she admitted Ed that she was the one who failed at the last minute to do something to DET deter the War I think that's going to be something that plays out and the last thing is dystopia everything she talked about was done as if she wasn't the one in power right Donald Trump correctly pointed out she's been the one in the room the last one in the room with with Biden over the past three years yet you think somehow she was she was she wasn't even there so those are the 3DS I think which really stood out for me regarding her overall performance really astute point and you know the Harris campaign put out this ad where people are former uh cabinet members saying negative things about Donald Trump and of course the moderators wanted to ask about this um let's play this uh exchange here uh because it really is deceptive piece of propaganda reminds me of the 51 spies who lied but we only found that out after the debate here let's play this yeah this is Z24 control room see I'm a different kind of a person I fired most of those people not so graciously they did bad things or a bad job I fired them they never fired one person they didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who's who's were just killed viciously and violently killed and I got to know the parents and the family they didn't fire they should have fired all those generals all those top people because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen so when somebody does a bad job I fire them uh right on the point right on money Blain is someone who worked closely to try to get people out of Afghanistan firsthand you know that of course he's going to have enemies people who are going to come up against him but he's doing his job and he's doing it what he believes is right for our nation and for National Security he nailed it and I am still trying to get Afghans out and I worked on that actually today he nailed it because he touched into the pulse of the nation which has not left Afghanistan we understand exactly what happened and then one of the the things that's a really great weakness for her is her nonverbals when he is answering a question she was rolling her eyes she was looking around in defiance she was in a corner and had nowhere to go because in her own words she was the last person to leave the room and yet she was instrumental in promoting every single General who made every single decision and there were no resignations and here we are on the eve of World War III potentially and that National Security team they are all in their same seats as they were and I don't know that she would change any of you're saying you're talking about World War III and they're they're touting that Taylor Swift has come out and endorse them I mean this is the world we're living in today and it clearly is so frightening to think about the weight of that Tony in the last minute we have uh the Israel Hamas war came up and I'd like you to summarize because what I heard from her was Hamas is a terror group I mean she was doing like the 101 that they taught her in the last 5 days perhaps but then she wound her way around after saying of course Israel has a right to defend himself again talking points talking points they haven't really been there for Israel the Biden Harris Administration as you know uh and then she got her way back to Palestinian State the Palestinian people have to decide their way they've got terrorists running their state there's no Palestinian State uh and nobody believes that's a reasonable proposal the last minute we have what do you think about what she said there well she's people just go have to go back and watch the tape uh she treated prime minister Netanyahu like he was uh like a poison when she met him and she would wouldn't go and visit be do her responsibility as the president pointed out president Trump pointed out in the Senate when when he spoke so this is not a small issue it was not lost on those and yeah she is pro Hamas she's going to do everything she can to sit up that state even if that means sacrificing our long-standing and effective relationship with the Jewish State there's no doubt that that's what she really wants do well as Bernie Sanders said uh she's being very pragmatic you know she's not she's still radical folks don't worry but she's going to do what she needs to do to win this election same principles Tony schaer Blaine Holt um such great analysis and thoughtful analysis um we appreciate your time thanks for coming in gentlemen yeah great to be with you than uh you can see the spin continues there in Philadelphia we're going to take a quick break we'll be back with more analysis of a big night in American history right after [Music] federal agencies urge every family to have an emergency radio during any disaster electrical power may get cut the emergency radio gives you the Vital Information you need Newsmax want you to have the Dynamo emergency band radio it doesn't need batteries and works in any emergency it retails for $330 you can get it with the free offer call or go online and get the emergency radio today your life may depend on it whether because of discomfort lack of Mobility your lifestyle or occupation you sit inactively way too many hours a day introducing ellipse the premium quality automatic seated 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around flipping the script if you will on KLA Harris who likes to say I'm speaking I'm speaking she did that to Mike Pence she wanted the microphones open even though that was against the rules interesting uh Bianca that we were talking during the debate off air that ABC a couple of times allowed the mics to stay open while she was not supposed to be speaking to let her get some digs in at the former president which seemed to be part of maybe an agenda that we've been talking about where ABC was factchecking him not factchecking her and then opening her mic when Donald Trump was speaking at least a couple of times when does it know and of course you know the audio person going rogue perhaps maybe there's some ulterior motive maybe they're you know fixing the system there a little bit but a lot of comments online about the body language we just saw some of the facial remarks but there was more than that I'm so pleased to have in body language expert Susan Constantine with us Susan welcome in um you know we can look at this sort of um as she's a female and he's a male some of the ways she would maybe was using or you know prepped to respond to him it's great to have you one of the things I noticed first is when he called uh her dad a Marxist it was really the first time where she touched her face and kind of looked at him is there anything you can tell us about that facial a lot of people are saying it was very inauthentic but is there something deeper the clinical science of body language you read that that we're looking at right now yeah that was really interesting because it was strategic in fact you saw that two or maybe three times this is the evaluator she would pop her chin up she would look down on her nose so that's a sense of superiority right so she did it intentionally because what she was doing was examining like okay let's let let me hear you let's see let's see what you're gonna say so it was kind of sending it was it was um uh the word I want to use is that she was using it to scoff at him nonverbally so it was intentional and I thought it worked really well I mean her plan worked well let me flip it around then as the man here among the three of us because I feel like if Donald Trump had been to use your word not mine condescending toward a female candidate and was sort of mocking her and planned it out as it seems like it was rehearsed as you suggest I'm not challenging you I'm just challenging the whole approach by K Harris I don't think a lot of people would say it was affected by Donald Trump it might blow up in his face and so and and and and the mainstream media would be saying Donald Trump was condescending to a woman and I hear you saying the opposite about her doing it to a man she gets away with it she kind of got away with it am I wrong yeah you're absolutely right on target if Donald Trump had done that to her it would be it would be all over the news no you know no pun intended and so you know it would it would not have gone over very well at all so I thought it was strategic I thought it worked he would she continued to poke the bear um and she knew exactly when to get them and and the thing is what I was disappointed with is that he fell underneath that yoke again so he felt he had to defend himself and I'm saying he doesn't need to do that and that's the part that weakens his position so when I look at them together I thought she had the upper hand he looked quite angry she on the same side was smiling a lot and she Perma Smiles so that is a long duration smile it's Way Beyond being authentic so that is a forced smile and it was done to intend to mock him that so you're what I that's what I'm seeing and I saw that pattern throughout and she generally uses that smile to feel like she can get away with it he couldn't do that yeah yeah do you think she felt comfortable you know there's also the handshake when she came over she was obviously coached as well because she came right over she came closer to his Podium put her hand out and said kamla Harris that you know technically they hadn't really been on the same stage together um but there were points Susan you know weigh in on that but there were points where she was sort of swallowing and it seemed like she might have been a little nervous at least initially the body language we thought the way her voice was moving she was it it was going very fast like someone who's nervous yeah so that generally happens when you rehearse something over and over again and we saw that with uh former with President Biden right he would rapid fire off this uh this information because she wanted to remember everything word for word when she walked up to him you'll see that slight pause doesn't just walk right up to she s from Donald Trump that he was not interested in shaking her hand so there was that slight little pause so when what she does is uh in her natural beingness um she will look down often times she will Bobble her head around she only did that one time where she would do that previously often times where she would kind of get lost in space but that didn't happen this time I thought she had a good command uh in her positioning she kind of uh waffled back and forth at the very beginning you can see her kind of shuffling her feet that's a lot of adrenaline okay so she's just getting her footing so she had a lot of high anxiety at that moment when she felt more empowered you would see her body language or to her tonality change so she felt more grounded I'm half joking but could you tell the moderators really were up three against one with Trump I'm I'm kind of half teasing but a lot the body language there I mean it it clearly may have been um quick thought on that then I have one last question go ahead on the moderators yes yes I did see that in fact the tonality of the moderators it was truly more uh or say presented more towards uh or favored more with Harris than he did they did with Trump that to me was obvious yeah you know the the tonality the uh the emotion all of it was it was a little bit more judgmental which kind of set Donald Trump off and that's what the problem is is that he gets triggered very quickly and and he you know he gets very serious and his eyebrows are down and you know he'll one point he was sething especially when we're talking about the crowds right so he just all of a sudden his shoulders dropped his head dropped and then he sees right there so last thing just to wrap up um what I hear from you overall though about Harris is she was condescending to Donald Trump she was carefully rehearsed and she was inauthentic is a word you used a moment ago we supposedly want our politicians to be authentic to we want to have a beer with them and all of that uh condescending rehearsed inauthentic to me that is a losing hand no now those are a lot of those are a lot of adjectives right so you know you put that all together and it really depends of course the voters are out there what did they really see because what I see and what they see yeah it maybe different all right Susan Constantine fascinating to break all that down we appreciate your time thank you thanks uh I certainly think if you're inauthentic and you practice all these lines voters may see through that but we're going to have to see how the polls I mean even when when we just W playing that again in her hand it's so choreographed how she did it yeah and you know they were doing it for memes so that the left can say oh she owned him she was mocking him very interesting and we'll see how it plays out quick break we're back and there she is in full and she lands it she lands she cackled a little bit too she did we had a little bit of that we'll take a quick break we'll wrap all this up Ed Bianca right after this [Music] heart attacks can happen at any time if you suffer Cardiac Arrest outside of a hospital you have just a 7% chance of surviving that's why this world-renowned cardiologist 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course they're going to not dig in deep on the border on their side absolute failure 10 to 20 million people crossing the border terrorists coming in you're letting in Isis they're killing and raping young women absolutely ridiculous so I think no matter what no matter what he said she will always lose the Border period yeah uh very interesting indeed Rick uh my initial reaction uh seeing Donald Trump take the de bait uh for much of the 90 minutes was ah maybe it wasn't his strongest night and then I see KLA Harris saying I want a second debate I want a second debate it kind of tells me they know they're behind in the polls they the Harris people think they had a good night maybe not a great night but a second bite of the Apple they think they could maybe win this race but without that second debate maybe they cannot what do you think Rick well I think they're overconfident at this point they think they did very well and I think she did better than a lot of people thought she would but I'm so glad they asked for a second debate because Donald Trump needs that second debate to cement the things that he was trying to get across in the first debate he needs that debate to make his points and to make sure she doesn't get away with what she got away with tonight which is not being challenged on the key issues they allowed her to redirect they allowed her to um to disregard and not answer questions which is what uh America needs her to do America needs her to be real and be honest and she really wasn't in my opinion she was good at getting under Trump skin she was good at redirecting and telling the story she wanted to tell but they didn't challenge her on inflation they didn't force her to admit that things are far worse off today than they were four years ago and they let her smile condescendingly at Trump and get away with it because they didn't force her to own up to all of the flipflops she's done and all the mistakes that she and Biden have made over the last four years no and they went into the wedge issue of abortion they spent so much time on that but here's the thing of course she wants another debate it'll be another softball she should she should be forced to do a news conference where every wide ranging do she doesn't want to do it that that would be the antidote to this um Kate 30 second I couldn't agree more right I mean why why just set why have Donald Trump walk into another trap like that you know three on one Kate yeah I I totally agree he will sign up and do another debate but tonight really came down to personality versus policy you got to pick your lane I'm a policy girl I could care less about your personality I want to get stuff done kind of person and quite frankly she did two decent hours how about the 33,000 hours that you have been in office and have done nothing so wow you pulled off two great hours 33,000 hours unaccounted for Rick 30 seconds that would have been a better plan maybe I I I I wish that he would have hammered her even harder on the border on immigration on all the mistakes she's made she's so concerned about the little babies that's great but what about the young ladies what about the girls and the women who've been raped and murdered by illegal immigrants they never forced her to address that and those women were on Capitol Hill today she should be forced to answer to those rapes and murders that she and large part made happen because she let the borders go wide open and they're letting her get away with this I'm tough on crime I'm the only one who prosecuted immigrants sorry you've ruined the Border no doubt about it uh big issue Rick We Appreciate You highlighting it Kate thanks for joining us thank for your service uh what a night Bianca uh your final thought on what we learned tonight all right so maybe not the strongest performance by Donald Trump uh but ultimately we knew going in that the moderators really would you know have the power here and clearly they will still his own despite that her advantage and his yeah there you go Ed Henry Bianca DEA Garcia we'll see you tomorrow on N1 N2 uh going through all of this uh this is just the beginning of the final stretch thanks for being here with us tonight so great to have you with us have a peaceful rest of your [Music] evening good evening I'm Rob Schmidt tonight we're diving deep into the FBI's abuse of power the politicized and weaponized agency which has become frankly obsessed with targeting Donald Trump in recent years and good agents have begun fighting back FBI agents say their director Christopher Ray never really took control of the corrupted Bureau and needs to