Guardians Cruise in Sweep of Cubs As Alex Cobb Takes His Turn to Stabilize Guardians Rotation

Intro last week the sky was falling for the Guardians and their fans this week the Guardians are back on top of the baseball world in terms of record the rotation looks better and they've won five in a row that's why they play 162 of [Music] these you are a locked on Guardian your daily podcast on the Cleveland guardians part of the locked on podcast Network your team every [Music] day I'm going to let everyone know at the start we just recorded an hour interview with Jeff Pon so look forward to a two-parter coming Friday on the audio side of things but first today's episode is brought to you by Game Time download game time app create an account use the code lock MLB for $20 off your first first purchase terms apply you can already hear me having problems after an hour conversation so this is gonna be a fun one today after a very fun win very fun win so fun we had to put this one on Thursday and move Jeff's interview to Friday so yeah definitely look look forward to Lad a lot of draft stuff a lot of prospect stuff that you won't want to miss on Today Show though Guardians they will not go away uh it's five in a row they're back on top and the the division the countdown race starts to look a little bit into picture here I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves but uh you can kind of see the the shapes coming together there hey the rotation looks pretty good the Guardians have won five in a row they're back on top of the world in terms of baseball we'll talk about about that uh we'll get into the importance of Andre s menz hitting we'll talk about some defensive things some offensive things and the importance of Clubhouse chemistry as well but first I am Jeff Ellis one of your two co-hosts one of the OG co-hosts over here on locked on in terms of baseball before this I was a elite draft and Prospect analyst nationally Scotland 247 and before that I was your 58th favorite uh blogger that has orever will exist for every Cleveland sports blog I I I know longer can gu guess Jeff's numbers anymore I've the first couple of days he started doing that I was getting him and now I'm like man even they're throwing me off the trail so Jeff's getting better at these games uh I'm Justin L I used to be the co the editor at Guardians Baseball Insider before I made that crash and burn uh I don't know I'm still freelancer at the uh the News Herald The Morning Journal I'm here and you can occasionally read me at prospects live where I am going to do some stuff on live looks from the Midwest League from this year at some point because I did get to go on Tuesday night and I did get to talk to to Jeff there um but first Guardians they will Team Resiliency just not go away Jeff every time I mean granted they had a seven game losing streak and before that their longest losing streak was three all year so the seven was definitely caused for concern but we've said all year it's it's just team resiliency this team continues to bounce back every time you think that the offense isn't going to be good enough and the rotation is not good enough um and then you see the bullpen has has a couple of issues show some cracks and they bounce back I mean at this point even even the things that aren't explainable maybe with this team which we'll get into later in the show because Zach had a great article in the athletic about the clubhouse just I don't know I'm starting to believe that there are just things with this team you can't explain a great a good Bullpen props you up but you want to know what the Guardians didn't have to go to the big three on in this win they hit plenty to stay away from the big three that class was not going to pitch I don't think thank God I think he was in The Dugout all night um and you got a great start from Al Cobb so your two your two trade deadline Acquisitions Matt Boyd and Alex Cobb shut down the Chicago Cubs who are not a feeble team they are they are still a team fighting for a playoff spot in the NL somewhere in the Wild Card race this is not a bad Cubs team um and they just shut him down I mean one run the last two nights and I know that they came back on the bullpen on Monday but the Guardians quickly recovered from that too like every time you start to see a crack on this team or you start to think well this may not work this may not hold up I mean we're mid August here and and the magic number is down to 38 yeah it was an impressive performance I I don't think anyone can really argue that it was anything other than that I mean Alex Cobb wasn't until he started to struggle but it's like he only allowed three base runners it's like a a triple and a sack fly is how they got the only run in this one and then the offense just kept coming up kept coming back and Nick sandland was weirdly effective even though I had a heart attack when he came in and then um Barlo apparently Brian rokio just doesn't like Scott Barlo um I mean that was a little league error the professor Remains The worst nickname in baseball at this point in time I just I don't get like it we we you know we'll talk about it more later but I my frustration is is reaching a boiling point there yeah just like Cub sitters frustrated by Alex cob I mean his we Alex Cobb talked about his start in it was good except for one pitch he threw a three 0 shot down the middle that you know I think a lot of minor Leaguers would have hit a 500 feet and and the guy he did it to is capable of doing that to anybody so it wasn't a good pitch and again we talked about you can make the argument vote should have not let him face that batter but you know if he makes one good pitch maybe he gets out of it and Alex Cobin was one good pitch away from getting six innings in a quality start in this one you he walked the last two batters he had a two- strike count I think it was uh was it Suzuki was the final batter he rocked Bush and then yes he walked Bush then Suzuki yeah and then he had had two on Suzuki so he had a chance for a quality start here and then some I mean one run in six innings for a guy who's making his second start of the Season at the major league level they've both been been pretty good you know minus one pitch um you know I know we were both a little bit concerned about everybody was a little bit concerned about how he would look after hip surgery and and shoulder soreness and not pitching All Season like if you You' have told me Alex cob was pitching really good all year I would have believed you after these last two starts like you know I know we were both a little bit timid on the trade as far as like we both like bresnahan quite a bit um but I think I came around to it a little bit quicker than you did not to like call you out I just you know when I really sat down and looked at it it's just there were not great arms traded and it's very clear that again fetty the white sock would not trade to Cleveland maybe though it was Detroit preferred not to trade um flarity here and Zack effin is essentially Alex cob anymore so like that again one can make the case that they got the best available arm they're just you can't make a trade happen you know it's you you hope it's there but they're just weren't those pieces there yeah I mean and they got creative like give them credit like this you know Matt Boyd it's two starts so we don't know how it's going to roll out but the way he's looked he's throwing 94 93 he's H 95 like he's 30 six and he's still throwing as good as he ever ever has like he still looks like the pitcher that shut out the Indians in the 2013 wild card game like he still looks like that dude um at 36 and having missed all this time and and I think it was more than a dart throw like the the Matt Boyd thing like you said like they clearly saw something there they went out and looked at him and they were impressed with the work he put in to rehab to come back and they clearly saw something they liked I mean God they spent enough time over the years getting dominated by him even he didn't have his best stuff and he came out and he threw strikes these are two veteran guys who have know been known for throwing strikes and maybe maybe Boyd's quality of strikes hasn't been hasn't been as good over the years as Cobb but you know Cobb was an All-Star yearo this wasn't just a dart throw it wasn't like oh we'll trade for this guy and hope that you know it helps like they went out and they got somebody they thought legitimately could help this rotation out and it was it was definitely a risk because he's been hurt all year and he is older um and he's coming off you know a surgery that's not insignificant but but they clearly went out and checked the Medicals as you'll find out on Friday that the biggest thing at the train deadline for teams is figuring out the Medicals as Jeff Fon will tell us on Friday show you'll all get to hear that Medicals are super important the Guardians were were obviously very comfortable with Alex Cobb's Medicals to make this trade um like I said it wasn't just a dart throw like these guys really thought again they took a risk but it wasn't like H we'll see if it works they they definitely believed in this they had conviction of it and he's proved them right so far and he he looked good and I don't know one turn through the new look rotation Jeff we've got Tanner BBY looking great in Minnesota coming back off after his like little weird shoulder uh weird alinan thing and Gavin Williams had his best start of the year and you know Ben Lively is is having some issues with with his uh walks right now we'll see how that that comes around but now you've got cin Boyd back-to-back starts and you're going to go into Milwaukee with with BBY and Williams and you will have Lively there but you know know one turn through the new look rotation it's as good as it it's looked all year right like for a team that came into the season hoping for Shane Bieber sa young and 2022 Tristan McKenzie and Logan Allen Gavin Williams and and um Tanner BBY building off of really good 2023 Seasons it's been a disaster for the most part and and I don't know this is the best the rotations looked all season one one turn through no it's yeah and again this Cubs team is you know they're they're somehow worse than their the some of their parts but they have some really good really interesting hitters um and they you know they shut them down not just a little I mean two one one run games and the starting pitching had a lot to do with it uh and then today they did it with the without the good Bullpen pieces like that's kind of impressive in its own right so yeah that's got to build confidence and this is a Cubs team that was one foot in one foot out at the deadline uh they're looking like they'll be picking top 10 next year and uh you you hate to see it you just hate to see it I don't hate to see it at all not at all I may not either they've got their Rotation ring I don't think they're complaining over there at all yeah I mean you didn't have to go to the big three and you know you got guys who are pitching into the sixth inning Matt Boyd's getting into the sixth inning and Gavin Williams and Tanner B's getting the sixth inning Alex cob did and suddenly you're not stretching your bull pennis as far as you had to before maybe it's coming at the right time you know the Guardians hit their little skid there with the seven a row which looked bad but the rotation looks like it's set up right now the way you want it hopefully they can get Ben Lively back on track we'll see but you have options now Ben Lively has had options all year now the rotations got options you've got uh you know Carrasco still sitting back there even though I'm not sure you want him backing the rotation and and canel's back in Triple A and Logan Allen and Tristan McKenzie now have to really prove prove they belong back in the rotation because you've got guys up here that again it's one turn through but you feel like for the moment things are sort of as stable as they've been all season we'll see how that continues the rest of the year but um it's the most confident I think I felt in the rotation you know since Bieber went down honestly we'll talk more about the bullpen and and how the Guardians pitching plan worked out on on Wednesday in the sweep we'll talk about Andre Jimenez we'll talk about defense at shortstop uh we'll talk about Clubhouse chemistry as well all coming up on today's Game Time show if you didn't get to a Guardians game this week against the Cubs in Cleveland that's okay maybe you want to go to Milwaukee it's not a long trip I have wanted to go to Milwaukee for a while my wife's been there uh maybe one of these days I'll come up and visit Jeff we can do something live there one of these days but um I'm not getting tickets this time at game time but it is a weekend game it is a weekend we talked about making this trip uh we couldn't make it work because of my wife's going back to school 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have been wild um I mean kudos to him for being super efficient and being available four days in a row uh vote went for it like they went they went to go clinch the win on on Tuesday night and it worked and you know as we've learned over the years with Tito as well you win win the games you think are winnable and figure out tomorrow tomorrow um they did that and guess what it might rain tomorrow or it might happen where you score six runs off the Cubs and you don't need your Bullpen at least not the big guys but um it certainly worked you know you didn't you didn't need to go to Kate Smith you didn't need to go to Hunter gantis you couldn't go to Emanuel CL you didn't need to you scored enough runs Alex Cobb pitched well it doesn't always work out like this but now the big three didn't pitch on Wednesday and you have an off day on Thursday and I think you got what six game or I'm sorry you have three in Milwaukee and you have an off day on Monday so essentially those guys could all pitch this weekend in Milwaukee and be off Monday and be ready to pitch again on Tuesday when you face the Yankees so sometimes things work out which is nice yeah they are set up for this series like I said I want to go I'm going Saturday with a friend of mine up here it's doing a Bob uker hary Doyle babae head giveaway so you'll know if I got it because you'll see it behind me on the Shelf um but otherwise yeah it's gonna be in you know in terms of who they have to face the the fun one's Friday because it's it's old friend alert it's Aaron zali on Friday versus Gavin Williams uh Freddy pralon Colin Reay Rea however you say his name who hasn't been all that good so it's actually lines up in multiple ways for them in this weekend series you know they're avoiding Milwaukee's Ace Tobias Meyers so that's that's important Tobias Meers could you imag could you imagine the die hards on on the social media if the Guardians had to face Tobias Meers in Milwaukee and they lost that game and I mean they might like Tobias Meers it's it's like people think that's a joke no he is he's their Ace right now I'll I'll just go pull it up like no he is you're right% he's 100% that the ace for the number one team in the NL Central um like right now I wouldn't be hating if they had him on this team still um you know that you could make the Junior Camero trade work if if you were currently in control of Tobias Myers because it's it's a lot of control and he's been know he's he's a mid- rotation starter let's be honest but like still it's the Brewers have like five years of control and he's gonna be worth three wins this year and I would love to have that um so yeah this year yeah sorry he's he's not going to be a free agent until 2031 Tobias Myers so you've got a lot of control yeah and I I don't think Junior CER will be a free agent until like 2033 at this point the way because it just got called up by the Rays so yeah we'll talk about some good trades by the Guardians on Friday with Jeff Pon but that is not going to be one of them for for multiple Reas they lost out on multiple levels of the deal that's what makes it kind of I know I know yeah that was that was probably their biggest blunder of the last I don't know decade I mean I know I guess not quite not as bad as it's no it is it is worse than the a Diaz I want to see it kind of matters Jake Bowers gonna see him this weekend yeah he's he's playing well for the Brewers as well it's it's the you know all theeland ER Eric H is their backup uh Bowers North yeah it's you know they're they're taking all the guys that Cleveland couldn't work with and they make them work Jake BS has a 97 way to runs create a plus this year um didn't see that coming nope I but it it's like somehow like if Cleveland fails a trade with the ray the Brewers win I don't know how this it's like how the Brewers the Brewers won the Shawn Murphy deal like they just win like weird you know Brewers like all right Tampa Bay and Cleveland made a trade how can we benefit from this like we're going to win in a few years yeah just wait a few years we'll get this guy it'll be it'll work out great whoever their GM is over there is like just watching the waiver wire for when this when this happens uh Andreozzi one of them won't be Andre SZ but uh at least hopefully not anytime not anytime soon because he's locked up to a longterm deal and that extension's been you know super controversial because it's been you know 2022 was great and he hasn't come close to that level of production which we we've said all along probably not going to happen yeah um we thought you know last year was kind of rough for him he picked it up towards the end the counting stats were really good for him the overall production was kind of down so we thought like he was somewhere between 2022 and 2023 and this year it's really been closer to 2023 unfortunately but I think what you see obviously the defense is incredible like the value there is just un unmatched um and I think I think the value would still hold up at shortstop even if he's you know if he's a platinum Glover at second maybe he is still a gold Glover at short and he's just not a platinum Glover I don't know um he is I mean he is worse than he was the year ago offensively unfortunately he's striking out less he's walking less he was not hitting the ball hard early in the year stepen VOD says right now he is trying to hit the ball harder like he's actually going up there looking to do damage um um you know expected stats think he should be hitting 270 I I don't really love expected stats because they tell you what should have happened and what should have happened doesn't always mean what is going to happen going forward so because expected stats is like 20% better on on average for him doesn't mean he's G to get there um but it means that the signs are there that he should be better so maybe he will be if you give me a 270 average for Andre s menz and that bumps his OBP up to 320 um I'll take that with his speed and his glove but I think I think uh Wednesday night's win just tells you like when Andre zenz is hitting the ball this this lineup is way better like this lineup needs him to hit because he can hit five six seven depending on who's pitching that night he can make an impact because he can run and he's a great base runner he does everything well it's just you need more consistent offensively but I think he is so important to this lineup when he is hitting yeah and you know there's no doubting his defense like if we're going to compare our short stop and our second basem we're told both of them are above average metrics um I mean roko is about a game away from hitting below 200 while also making little league errors I I know we're we're gonna run a break here but if you are as annoyed about the rokio situation as I am um I also told one of our listeners that uh you would explain some of the changes that ARS has made that maybe it is time to call up Gabby that there are some swing adjustments that have been made um and people want to hear about that so if you want to hear why you know arus is hitting uh 330 with a 965 Ops and triaa yeah he's he's not walking and there's there's still some other issues but uh if you're ready for a rant uh join us because I'll be ranting away Jeff is gonna go off do not turn the show Prize Picks off prize pick is giving you something for free right now that's right who doesn't want things for free I I mean Everyone likes prize picks for free the one problem right now they're giving you a free one um their website isn't working so I'm going to get the name wrong but there is a MMA player I don't do MMA I don't know MMA but his name is Israel idena maybe but they are saying that it is that they are giving you this one for free normally he has 100.5 strikes that he is going to make good strikes instead the more or less is 0. five you can't pick less you can only pick more they're giving you a free Square go 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we'll see if it happens um you know the network is trying to get it for me so if that happens then I'd be heading out Friday with the press pass it'll be your last game because you'll be there and you'll be like you know what the only thing I'm going to say while I'm here is it's time to make a move at shorts stop yeah it's it's overdue um the professor still continues to be the worst nickname ever given I mean today's play ju Justin came down to set up with for Jeff ponds because you know we got we got a guest we got to be you know a good host and to explain to him that he just didn't put his glove down that it went under his glove this is two days after he misses the throw at first and then me misses the uh the cut off like I said it's it's like he's out there intentionally trying to make Barlo look worse Barlo can do that on his own most times he doesn't need assistance um and just to watch it happen again and you know it's one of those situations where before we talked got on the air here Justin was talking about like his defensive metrics are going backwards as well because he is making three bonehead plays a week and his offensive production is atrocious he is so if I I have it open here let's let's go look at I know I don't want to he has a 76 weight to runs creat a plus um 248 20 I'm sorry that's his b pip is 248 208 297 311 coming into the game that is bad he is you have to be an elite Defender to make that type of offense work and he's not and his defense is backing up his offense is not good Gabby Arius was also making throwing arrow when he was up let's be honest he was not bulletproof as a short stop uh I know people will say well you know bring up onhell Martinez onhell Martinez was starting to chase really badly it was not working for him at the major league level he needed a bit of a reset but it might be time to give Gabby another shot he is utterly dominant since he got down there know if not them you know I know it'll never happen but I think we're getting closer and closer to just put gimme at shortstop and you know I don't know if you how comfortable you feel with bro it's a base he's probably a 40 there maybe a 45 may maybe a 50 if you squint but um you got to have someone who provides something and right now he's not providing offense or defense he's just providing bad he's providing humor is all he's providing for me right now because all they can do is laugh at it yeah I is it my question is like is Jimenez at Short it too late to make a change at Short Stop this this late in the season in terms of a a for rokio and B for for Jimenez like I don't have as many doubts about moving Jimenez to Short Stop I know he wants to play there I know he still takes ground balls there like I think AMZ is prepared to do whatever I think he's a gamer I think he puts in the work and I think I think he will do whatever Cleveland asks him to do with no problem so I'm not really worri about that I mean he played Short Stop in the off season he still plays in he played his whole life yeah so I'm not as worried about that and like like we've talked about before maybe doing that also takes some uh issues out of hitting too because maybe it frees him up to let worry about less about hitting and just react more naturally he's hitting right a l he's hitting he's hitting better right now and I'm not sure you want to mess with that but like if you're gonna make this call you got to do it soon because I think you want to get guys comfortable and you want to get things assembled as best you can for the playoffs um in the final month of the year because you know yeah you're still playing for the division it's not a guarantee even though the magin number is 38 that looks great but you have a season series over over the twins but I don't think you want to do this too late and you know you're messing I don't know if you I don't know about messing with with Jimenez moving him around too much I'm not like I said I'm not worried about that I am worried about I don't know is it doing this before it's too late whether it's Arius whether it's moving Jimenez or moving breedo there I do think the issue with buredo is again you're even though Jimenez is defense at Short should be just fine should still be really Elite honestly um you're taking away defense at second and you're making it worse and you're sort of I me I don't know you're upgrading it short no matter what right defensively like kena's hasy better at Short than than rokio has been I think Arius is also we've talked about we think Arius is a gold Glover at Short if he plays every day like the arm is just incredible the range is there I think there are definitely some odd plays that he makes do sometimes um but rokio is doing the same thing and honestly go go look at the numbers I'm sorry men uh Arius has a 69 WRC plus it's 76 for rokio what's the difference in five and the diff the difference is what F five there and you're not getting Gold Glove defense out of out of out of roio if you were I'd say don't make the switch right like it it is what it is you're just gonna you know this is the miles draw argument again right you're you're hoping that he gets good enough defense the metrics are coming down on him and I almost wonder if maybe he I don't know is is it sending him back to Triple A gonna hurt his confidence or is it gonna help him for next year but if you send him down now you kind of have to say like you know we're making a switch and it's got to be permanent like I said you got to if you're going to do this you got to do it soon I don't think you can do it too late and I think once you do it you got to commit to it they've committed to rokio this far into the season um I don't know how you handle that you know I it's a tough decision to be honest with you um they'll have to make a call one way or the other and I I I wouldn't want to be the one to make that call because it's it's impactful it's definitely an impactful decision but I think whatever you do it's just weird because remember when he was supposedly cleaning out his locker and it's like yeah nobody has explained that still it's so weird I don't know you at some point you just got declare like this is who maybe they are decare Maybe by not making a change they're saying No this is it but if you do make a switch you gotta hold to it and make the switch I I think the better route is is arus and Jimenez honestly as much as I want to see buredo the defense I think is just not going to be good at second and you don't know if he's going to hit arus at least has some level of Major League success they changed his hands at the plate like he's his hands are higher on his shoulder now they're they're claiming it's helping him get into better position to hit the ball um he is hitting some of the best he ever has at Triple A in 20 in 82 plate appearances um I'm not worried about the walks because honestly he's down there to make swing adjustments so you got to swing not worried about that um but yeah if you're going to make that decision you got to make it soon and I think it just makes more sense to have arus at short and jenz at second as much as I want to see burrito I think given the time of time of the year and what you're playing for you're probably safer going to Jimenez I'm sorry uh arus at this point because you're gonna have better defense out of both spots and if you do have Freeman at short for a day or schneeman for a couple of innings in his start because of platoon issues arus can play First with you know David fry unable to play he can play right if you need him right like he can play Third and spell Jose like he's still at rookie is just playing short every day you can have AR start four games with short stop and three games elsewhere um I don't know can you make both work I don't know but I I think I think yeah it's just there should be a change but it has to be soon and you have to be definitive like this is the way we're going the rest of the year it's just not working like let's just be very honest about that's why like again you know one of our lasts and I wish I could remember it like ikf would have been the ideal like that's they need to get the deadline that was if you're gonna sit back and talk about like where they missed at the deadline ikf like reasonable contract you know borderline Gold Glove Defender can play all over the diamond was hitting really well this year I think he had like the third highest uh weighted runs CR plus if anyone traded at the deadline I probably wasn't going to keep that up but yeah it's just shortstop isn't working I don't know if Gabby's the answer but right now I know rokio isn't and yeah it's you know the the shortstop Factory has had some some Jam ups and uh you for anyone asking yes Amed was released I think he gets claimed before he I think Cleveland would consider claiming him I think he still has friends here with the situation they've had I think they would consider him but I don't think he has any chance of getting down the line I can't do you're gonna downgrade defense and Lord Only Knows what'll happen I know the offense is much better but unless you're planning on a late game defensive replacement which I guess you know it can't it can't be roko because look what he keeps doing to Scott Marlo no I just think you can't have that in the playoffs you can't have what happened the LA this two last two nights happened in the playoffs like there are good things rokio does defensively but there are just so many like so many I don't know if it's like a mental err like a like a a lack of focus I I don't want to say because I don't know for sure but the major league level is hard it's hard but like it you those are the kind of plays that cannot happen in the playoffs um especially if you're trying to use Nick Sandler Scott Barlo and you're trying to avoid Kate Smith and Hunter gatis because you need them to have a night off like you can't you can't have those situations happen the way they did on on Monday and you can't have it in the playoffs so yeah we don't have all the time to get to Noel um we'll say Chas break from our Noel opinions honestly but it was it was a bad night for him on on Wednesday as we thought it would be yeah teams watch and see if more teams bust him inside and up that's going to be the the thing I think we saw the The Playbook there but we have a monster of an interview coming up why don't you take the lead on that one yeah so Friday and Saturday honestly uh depending on where you're looking for the podcast but I think I think Friday and Saturday audiowide it's gonna have to be a two-parter uh before we taped today's episode we did an hourong spot with Jeff Pon of baseball America everyone's favorite guest I think he is the overwhelming favorite Jeff in terms of everybody we've had on so far um Tim or it's John those are the the top two yeah John everybody loved John I mean everybody loves when we had Tanner on a year ago you know yeah we're try we' love to get more players on again tell the Guardians that you love hearing us talk to players like Tanner uh Cooper Engle was awesome people did enjoy that but Jeff Pon is one of our most reoccurring guest because people love him and honestly he's filled with just incredible information and um he's just a smart dude and he was in Lake County this week to look at Guardians prospects Dodgers prospects so we talked to him about that so we talked about Travis bana we talked about um Jacob Kosar we talk about Ralphie Vasquez we talked about Lise Marjo all that good stuff yep so make sure you join us uh each and every day make sure you're commenting reading reviewing doing all that fun stuff it helps uh be an everyday like John and David and Siege with me thank you all and go go Guardians