BREAKING: Cleveland Browns give Kevin Stefanski & Andrew Berry contract extensions

All right, we have breaking news to start this Wednesday edition edition of the ultimate Cleveland sports show along with Jeb Bush and Mikey mcnuggets. The Browns have done it something we've talked about for months. Let's go. All right, you're annoying right now. Listen, it's not my fault. The Browns could resign. Both the general manager and their head coach of the Bengals can't sign a single receiver ball. Don't put that on me. It's true. Don't put that on your phone, Homer Homer. I just like to bust your balls. I know uh Browns have signed Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry two extensions. We don't have the details yet of how many years for each guy, but this is great news for the Browns G Bush in the organization for the first time in decades. Well, you know, we can, we can get rid of the talking point now, people used to get mad. People would be upset like, yo, what they doing, why ain't they picks in what's going on? Why they ain't, they ain't reward those guys. Two time coach of the year. Andrew Barry has done some really good things in trades and, and, and the Browns have made the playoffs for the, for the first time in lots of lots of years, like eighties, nineties, the most successful tandem that we have. And now this is a AAA situation where we can stop talking about it. It's not a thing anymore and stability matters in football. You look at the teams that have been successful over the course of the last couple of decades, you had the Patriots on their dynasty. Well, Belichick had the utmost job security and although he was GM it was Ernie Adams and Robert Kraft in the front office for the most part was stable. Most recently, the Chiefs Brent Veach, Andy Reid. No questions about it. The Browns and Stansky Barry aren't on those levels yet. They have no, they have one playoff win and I'm not trying to put them on that level, but I'm just saying the idea of stability and having your head coach and general manager in lockstep, not just with roster moves, but future team building and future team planning and goals and aspirations. That is a monumental factor for a team and organization that frankly has lacked stability completely since they came back to Cleveland in 99. And now they, now they've got to prove they're worth it. Uh Both these guys have done a good job but not good enough. I'm seeing a lot of tweets best pair in forever, but, ok, that's true. But there's not a high bar there, there's been no, all the other pairs were horrible. So all you have to do is be better than horrible to reach that level. I, I'm a fan of Andrew Berry. I'm a fan of Kevin Stefanski. I think Andrew Berry has done a solid job as GM, I think Kevin Stefanski has done a very good job as head coach, but neither one has done close to good enough. The goal in Cleveland G. Bush is to win a Super Bowl, not win one playoff game in four years, especially when you go all in on quarterback. That, that's right. So now is the time to take it to the next level because there's been other stability. Marvin Lewis was, had stability in Cincinnati. Uh Mike Tomlin had stability in Pittsburgh. He hasn't won in a long time. Marvin Lewis never won squad. Sometimes it's, you know, the reason Belichick stuck around for a long time and Andy Reid is because they won, not just because they wanted stability, you gotta win, you gotta win when it matters. So this was a big first step, but really it's the first step. But you'd think if you're Andrew Berry, now, if you're Kevin Stefanski, now there's a sense of calm and relax and the, and the thing about stability is, you know, these guys have chemistry and they work together well and it allows you to grow. Every coach is gonna get somewhat better. Every GM is gonna get at least some degree better, the longer they do the job. Now, some guys ultimately are not good enough and they can do it for 10 years and it's just not good enough. But I suspect that these two guys are good enough and that with more time they will eventually get the job done. But just because I think it, or you think it, or you think it doesn't mean it's gonna happen now, they've got to prove it and they've got, who knows how many years we haven't seen it. I'm assuming they got at least a four year extension if not five, which means we could potentially have these guys together for as much as a decade, if not more. And that, that's a great step for the organization. Well, listen, you know, people always say, you know, I've been, I've been as vocal as anybody about Stanski, right? But I'm always a person, uh, who gives you an opportunity to prove me wrong on the field about what you do. And what Kevin Stefanski did was he was like, hey, I was coach of the year. I did it with a different quarterback. I did it with a different play style. He came back last year and did it with five or six different quarterbacks and everybody being injured and still went to the playoffs. This is a list of the guys who have won two coach of the year awards in the NFL Allie Sherman won two. George Hallis. That's pretty, pretty dope name Don Shula. Pretty, pretty tough big name, George Allen. You keep going, Joe Gibbs, another big time name, Mike Dick, a huge name, Bill Parcells, right? And Bill Belichick. And by the way, Ron Rivera is because it's changed. The award has changed. No. Listen, you know how much I love Kevin fans. He doesn't belong in the conversation with any of those guys. I started the last two. His awards. Say it well, that what Kevin Stan, now the award has now become the best, the guy who did the best job unexpectedly, it used to go to just the best coach Kevin Stavans wasn't the best coach in the NFL last year. Nobody would argue. He's uh nobody would realistically argue. He was the best coach in the NFL. He, he, his team succeeded more than expected based on the circumstancess on the team. That's why he won the award. He's done a very good job, but no, he doesn't. Those coaches are Hall of Famers. Kevin is the fancy. You have to buy a ticket to get in the whole of his book is yet to be written. I'm saying it's early and for him to do it in a very short period of time puts you in a list of people that are saying, wow, this guy, I mean, I don't think in four years the other two guys who have done it in recent years. So I mean, we don't look at Ron Rivera as a good coach, Ron Rivera is considered a bad coach and he went to Bruce Arians. Fine. I mean, I mean, Bruce, those guys were all a long time ago outside of Belichick. Well, Bruce Arians, you know, he, he just left. He's fine. He Hall of Fame. II, I think he might think he has two coach of the year and a Super Bowl. I don't think coach of the year has anything to do with Hall of Fame. Well, regardless the coach of the year since the fans and Barry have come to the Browns, the Browns have seen a level of success they frankly hadn't seen since coming back to Cleveland in 99. The 37 and 30 record is a 552 win percentage, which is their best since the 1986 through 1989. No, no, I, I'm, I'm, I'm just saying that since they've come, they have brought this organization from frankly a laughing stock to legitimately credible on all facets offensively defensively from a well run top down standpoint. And when you look at what they've done and to your point earlier about improving, there is room and reason to believe that this pairing will only get better and better and better. Can they reach the ultimate goal of winning the Super Bowl? I don't think we have enough data yet to tell us yes or no, but there is reason to believe this, this tandem can keep ascending up the ladder of the best head coach GM tandems in football. And, and I think one of the things that there's going to be one of the unintended consequences to this is now depending on the years. We know for a fact that if the Deshaun Watson thing does not work, they will still be here. That's, that's huge deal. It's a big deal because if Deshaun flops this year, then Barry and Stansky, if they decide to, can move on, even after this year, you know, you can start thinking about drafting a quarterback. You don't have to worry about your job if that happened. They, they are now insulated from, from that. Um And now, you know, when you have, and here's the thing that what the organization should think about. Now, the organization does not have to worry about ses or Barry going out of their way to do things in the short term that they normally would not do because they're worried about making a splash or having to keep, you know, keep their job. So now they can go into it and make the best decision for a five year term rather than, rather than a six month, all in type thing. It's funny because since this show started in 2022 and I'm sure since 2021 and 2020 I just can't speak from that from personal experience. Kevin Savants has been like a dividing factor in the city. There are people that love Kevin Saan. There are people that hate Kevin Savy. I go back to the Seattle game this year when he decided to throw the ball with PJ Walker. It gets picked off and we had the poll that next Monday morning. Should Kevin Savy still be the head coach of the Browns? And it was like 83% said no fire him. He's the first head coach since the Bush administration. That's actually not true. Uh, that's a huge mistake. Hugh Jackson got that, got fired. It was a stupid, yeah, I guess I was, I still can't believe he did, but he did and then he immediately got fired after it. So anything's possible. But II, I think now we find, I, I think what you're talking about about, about them having no pressure to win immediately is big. Now some people may look at it and say, well, may, maybe they'll be hesitant to make moves. No, I don't, I don't really think it's gonna change anything that Andrew Barry and Kevin Stansky do, but it just takes away any pressure that they might have felt. I don't know what, what they felt at all. I do think with the Watson situation it could play a role. But now over the next few years we'll find out and I'll bring up the Marvin Lewis comparison again. Mar, before Marvin Lewis, the Bengals were what the Browns had been before Kevin Stefanski. They were, uh, uh, the worst franchise in sports. And Marvin Lewis reached a new level for them. Just like Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry has. Now, you asked me, I'm gonna tell you that Kevin Staf fans, he's a better coach than Marvin Lewis. However, I have more information on Marvin Lewis because he was there like 12, he was there forever. I don't remember exactly how many years he was there forever. Went to the playoffs seven times, you know, and he did a good job for a lot of that time, but eventually it was enough. Now it is Kevin Stefanski eventually and, and Andrew Berry gonna get into the class of these upper tier coaches and G MS. Well, he's not anywhere close to them. Now, you gotta win, you gotta win more than one playoff game in four years before you're even in any kind of discussion. But he is the op, they both have the opportunity. I think they're, they're capable of it. I believe they are. I believe they're both good at their job and can be better, but they've got to prove it. We're gonna find out in the next few years. Are they deserving of that top talk or they end up being Marvin Lewis and be here eight years and the team's pretty good and we've reached a new, uh, reached a higher floor, but we're so used to losing that. It's scary. To, to move on from that. That's what we're gonna find out for the next, in the next bunch of years. So, if you keep losing in the first round of the playoffs, you eventually, you're gonna make a change. Um, but, but I don't want, you know, we get bogged down on that now. I love this. I think it's great for the organization. I don't think they're gonna, I think the Browns will continue to make progress with this group because I think they're good people, but we're gonna find out for sure. Does this change? So it's weird. Does this change the way you think about? Ok. Now, did, since he got this, this extension, do you now believe that it was a collaborative uh uh situation where they did bring in Dorsey, um and, and bring him in as an offensive coordinator or do you still think, uh, you know, the ownership group said no, this is what's gonna happen. And b if he is the head coach now he got the security, he got the extension. Do you think there is a chance now where he could say no, we, we were gonna go down the path of Dorsey calling plays, but I feel a little more comfort. Can I say yes to both at the same time, I think there's probably some pressure from the Haslam and ownership to be like, hey, this isn't what we expected it to be and we want to look a little different, but it may not have been all, it could be a little bit of both. He wanted to make a change. It was a little pressure from upstairs saying we wanna look a little different, but however you want to make that difference, it's up to you. And he said, ok, well, a VP, I appreciate what you've done. I want to go in a different direction and I think there's probably a little bit of both at play, but it does make me feel a little better now knowing that it wasn't and I didn't think it was ever fully forced. But if they're gonna keep with the fans and extend them for 34567, whatever the extension details come out, they must have come to, they must have come to some agreement and come to some to come conclusion that this is the right guy and we trust him to lead us for the next half a decade or more. So we're gonna put our faith and trust in him. It doesn't change my opinion. I think Alex Van Pelt was forced out by management by ownership and II, I don't think Kevin Stefanski would willingly give up his play calling. Uh, maybe one state, maybe ownership said, hey, listen, we want to give you an extension. We think you'd be better off having somebody else call the players. Maybe there was some level of Kevin Stan saying, all right, uh ok. You know, like he wasn't, he was, he came, or maybe he came around on it and, and I don't know, you don't know what none of us know for sure. Only he knows for sure. I just, the way he's talked about the play calling in the past, I just don't believe that he willingly gave it up. But at this point it doesn't matter. I mean, it is what it is all signs of pointing. Ken Dorsey calling plays. It would be interesting if it back. You know what Ken Dorsey, you're a slap me. Now, I will say this though. There is a very good chance that if the Cleveland Browns not saying that they will don't get on me. But if they're sluggish and often a really hitting, oh by all means of Kevin Stas now has the cachet to be like, oh, this didn't work out. We ain't about to do this. I'm going to call these plays real quick. I wonder if he lets Dorsey start and then pulls it back, but it's like how it's going starting and then I feel like now that he has the leverage to do that, hey, I'm not going anywhere I think do start to pull it back. If you give the guy the OCG and you make him the play caller, I don't think you pull back. I mean, it would have to be really bad for you to take it away from him in the first year we saw Nick do it in the first year. Yeah. Well, Shane Stein went to, how did that go for the team after that? I don't think that's a good idea unless it's going terribly, terribly wrong. And he may give him and look, and I'm not saying this because he gave your boy Joe Woods a whole dog on four or five years still wouldn't, we still wouldn't get him up out of here. So I think he, he has shown a track record of letting you get your money off and proving whether you can do it or not for a year because he, he, he believes in doing it by the book. It's a common courtesy that you don't fire nobody in the middle of the season unless you have to because it looks crazy for that guy getting another job. That's right. Have you, have you guys seen the video I saw it recently posted on Twitter or youtube or something where uh it was a video of when Kyle Shanahan was the oc of the browns and Mike Pet was like, maybe we should run the ball and then Shanahan didn't even answer him like pets. The head coach Shanahan just looked at him like you're the dumbest guy in the face of the earth. Don't tell me what to do like daddy happening in this situation. No, no, no, this is not a Kyle Shanahan, Mike Petin situation, Mike Petin. The defensive guy. Totally different story. I don't buy that. Kevin Sci is gonna have nothing to do with the office. He's gonna have some say. But you know, I think when you have an offensive head coach and you have, but you have a good offensive coordinator, I do think you work together. It's definitely a collaborative process. It should be, I think it was with Alex Van Pelt too. I mean, the equivalent of you doing that on the sideline is like you getting a text during the middle of the show and being like, hey dog, I think you need to talk about this right now and you'd be like, you mean as we right now, like I just, I wasn't ready to talk about it. You just once, that's not it. We went through the rundown, that's not it. But you can't do that, bro. So yeah, we did it today because our plan was to start with the Guardians, which we, we'll get to the Guardian that happens to us all the time. Just breaking news right before the show. The breaking news isn't a text. The news is you're down 27 7 with three minutes left and you have to start throwing the ball. You only have a choice but bottom, bottom line and then we'll move on. It's a great day for Browns fans.