Is Keenan Allen being 'undervalued' in fantasy drafts? | Fantasy Football Happy Hour | NFL on NBC

okay we are still in tier four as we kick off wide receivers 31 through 40 here now in tier four started at 24 so 31 am Amari Cooper 32 Keenan Allen now we break to tier five at 33 which is kicked off by George Pickins Chris Godwin deont Johnson Xavier worthy Calvin Ridley Jaden Reed DeAndre Hopkins and Rome dun boy but like I mean just look how good tier five is just again you want to talk about the depth of the position here I mean Deontay Johnson is just I we've talked about him a lot but he is going way too low in drafts is just going to get a massive Target share in Carolina Chris Godwin they're moving back to the slot this year you like this we already talked about worthy uh we'll talk about Jaden reing here in a second but like Ridley and Hopkins again Tennessee is going to push the ball down the field under Brian Callahan uh as well I it's just there's a lot of really interesting guys there for me so you want to talk about you want to talk about Kenan you want to talk about Jaden Reed Connor where are we going let's go with Keenan Allen because everybody's talking about really it feels like two things with Keenan Allen one his age and then also the apparent you know weight he's gained whether on purpose or not so just where is the feel around Keenan now right now in a very busy offense out of nowhere yeah look I'm at you know obviously I have him down uh down here in in tier four look tier Point turned 32 in uh in April he's missed 11 games over the last two seasons and under Shane Waldren last year who's the new offensive coordinator of the of the bearss but he was with Seattle last year the kks were 29th in slot targets last year now all due respect to Jackson Smith and jiga who we like but like he was hurt some last year and rookie Jackson Smith in jiga isn't in jiga is not Keenan Allen who by the way has had at least 25% Target share eight of the last nine season he's averag of six reception per game for nine consecutive years he was the third best wide receiver in fantasy on a points per game basis last year he was wide receiver eight he's keen and freaking Allen and so I think especially by the way if you're Cale if you're Caleb Williams like you're looking for DJ Moore you're looking for Keenan Allen I I prefer more to Allen but I do think Allen is kind of undervalued because again older player not sexy there are some injury concerns here but where you have to take him he doesn't have to be a starter for you like you're not going to the season unless you go like crazy running back quarterback tight end early like generally speaking you're not going to the season with Keenan Allen as your starting wide receiver so even if he's not even he's going to miss some t the fact of the matter is is that when he's out there I think he's going to be very good because I think Caleb Williams is going to be good I think this Bears offense is going to be good and I think that it's really G to be DJ Moore and Keenan Allen Jay let me ask you something with how great the Bears defense looked the second half of last year and they went out and paid a running back a lot of money do you have any concern about any of the past game not that it's going to be inefficient but fantasy you need volume and numbers and there's a lot of Ms to feed we don't know how often they are going to truly throw yeah and we just haven't seen this quarterback in the NFL fell before we haven't seen this offensive coordinator with this quarterback there's a lot of uncertainty here and I think that look going in the 30s that's fine for Keenan Allen but also like right now on yah Yahoo he's going ahead of Christian Kirk and Rashid rice like give me both of those guys over Keenan Allen and also I think Keenan Allen is maybe the one player in the NFL whose stats last year were just most warped by his context because you just look at it's like oh Kenan Allen had over 1200 yards in 13 games it's like watch the game like watch what the Chargers were doing there was no one else he was just getting every Target second on the charges in targets last year was Austin eeka third was Gerald Everett like there was nothing else and yeah credit to Kanan Allen he was able to make something of those targets but he's not going to be like he had 150 Targets in 13 games last year and obviously we're baking in that is going to get reduced it's not going to be the same deal but just a little bit of uncertainty so I wouldn't go in expecting Kanan Allen is definitely going to have you know this thousand plus yards season um but just with his receptions he should be able to provide a decent if he stays healthy you I will say this too I also think the depending on how you're constructing your wide receiver room sort of depends on what you want to do with Keenan Allen because I I I hear you like Rashi R there's also some there's some younger quote more upside guys that are going around in the same range and so I sort of feel like if I've if I've gone sort of running back heavy and I've like I've taken a flyer or like if I feel less certain about my wide receiver room then you might be like you know what cuz I think Keen Allen's probably more of a floor play than an upside play at this point for this coming into this year but I feel like if I feel really rock solid about my wide receivers I'm just like let me just take a flyer or something like that then to your point maybe there's you know other wide receivers with quote unquote more upside that you might want to uh take in this range so I think it's also sort of how as you're building your your wide receiver room and you're constructing your roster it's a little bit about you know seeing where if if and where Keenan Allen fits in you feel better about him in PPR than half PPR as well but I do think just again I said this about DeAndre Hopkins too I just he he's not a sexy player but all this guy has done when he's been healthy has produced down the list at 38 Jaden Reed everybody's trying to figure out what Packers wide receiver do I want and it was interesting moment with Jordan love this summer with bleach report he was asked to draw his Unstoppable play let's take a listen on which wide receivers he included X we going to put my guy we'll put Romeo Dives out there just cuz I mean that's one of my favorite f targets whenever I throw it up to him he is going to come down with the ball I know that 100% so this is my Play I mean we can run it backed up middle of the field Red Zone I mean I think there's touchdowns all over the place Devonte Adam Choice route Romeo dos on a little fade Travis Kelce on a through route across the middle Tyreek Hill on a little slot fade Josh Jacobs on a on a hit shot there um so that's my play right there Unstoppable so a ton a ton of fantasy Superstars then Romeo dobs no no slight against Romeo dobs it's just interesting when we talk about their four wide receivers all the time that he included Romeo dobs who's had some massive moments with GE yeah but you know what read what listen watching that clip it makes me feel like he just feels really good about Romeo dobs running that one route I don't think that was that was which he did in college all the time right exactly it didn't feel like that was him saying like listen I think I don't like Jaden Reed Christian Watson or davien Shad put tank Dell in his offense we did that clip yes know when St did that he was just like these are three of the best guys like exactly that way just listening to that clip Jordan love was talking about like listen I here's my perfect play I want you know I want a uh I want a tight end to run over the middle all right give me Travis Kelce like he just picked he figured out what play he wanted then he figured out what guys could do what what routes within that play to make his quote perfect play and you know talked about Tyreek Hill with you know as well and so I don't know I don't take a lot into that um into that clip I I will say that I love getting the Packers wide receivers in a best ball format I will say that I think I think every week I think Jordan Love's Gonna Have a monster year especially if you look at their schedule their early schedule like it's great the Packers early schedule is fantastic and so um I think Jordan Love's Gonna have a hot start and I think you're GNA have at least one if not two wide receivers every week have big games for the Packers offense I think it's going to be tough to predict which one is on any given week week I if if I had to pick I have some dos as well I have almost know Christian Watson just because the you know the injuries and and that's a concern here as well but um I think I feel like as we watched that offense sort of grow up last year feels like Jaden Reed and davien Wicks are two guys that really sort of came more into their own dobs and Watson were what they were and they were good and they were fine and everything like that but felt like we saw growth from Reed and Wix I don't know if that if you saw the same thing yeah I loved what I saw from Jaden Reed as a rookie I think he gets manufactured touches I think he's a quietly very good route Runner especially when they use him in the slot I'd be I'd be very high on Jaden Reed this year when when people ask me this question that's who I I say there's actually a pretty good gap for me I think he's going to have an elevated role he finished his wide receiv at 25 last year which I think go was a bit under the radar I think the Packers situation overall might be the most interesting in the league in terms of pass catches because last year they finished as the number five offense in football and they didn't really seem to know what they were doing the first half of the season they still finished as the top five offense it was like one of the youngest offenses that we've ever seen at skill position and quarterback combined so I think that they should get better and I think there's a little bit of a logical inconsistency where last year Romeo dobs led the Packers in targets he had almost 100 targets he led the team and he's going 62nd among wide receivers on Yahoo like it's a top five offense and he's LED them in targets like I can't go see he just turned 24 years old as well so I think that look I don't think that he's going to be their top receiver I think that will be Jaden Reed and I think Wix has more upside Watson has more upside even if Watson's median outcome might be fourth among these guys because of the injury concerns um but dobs is worth I think a late round fly certainly slight concern on jayen Reed in terms of touchdown regression he had 10 touchdowns last year on just 75 touches but an increased role and again you sort of feel you feel feel like his role is the most secure like you'll see Watson and dobs on the outside wit will work him his way in as the fourth wide receiver but Reed's going to be in the slot like Reed is their slot guy and so and that's an area of the field that Jordan love is very comfortable throwing so Jaden Jaden Reed to me if I if I'm if I'm throwing a dart at you know which which Packers wide receiver I kind of like Reed and I like Wix because he's the cheapest of the four as well but I hear you on dobs as well like there's value in all these guys I think just the consistency is going to be tough to figure out speaking of Wix let's look at some late round deep League targets a list that he is included on Jameson Williams Josh Palmer rased Shahed khil Shakir Darnell Mooney Jaylen McMillan Greg DOR Andre yis and Luke mcaffrey Jay who on this list stands out to you so the guy for me is Josh Palmer uh who some plac is going outside the top 45 wide receivers like the reality is again just very simply he looks like he's going to be Justin Herbert's number one wide receiver and I understand that this offense probably isn't going to throw that much it's not going to be an explosive passing game someone has to catch the ball Justin Herber is a top seven quarterback in the NFL on Talent like he's going to throw the ball and Josh Palmer would be the in the market to be the charge's number one wide receiver and thus I think he is certainly worth a flyer J I'm kind of using the same thought process when I see khil Shakir on that list I understand Dalton conc is a Target Monster in that offense but I think people are investing a little too much early hope and Keon Coleman as a rookie Curtis Samuels dealing with a turf toe they think he should be ready for week one they're not definitively saying it khil Shakur is going to fall into a lot of catches in this offense with an elite quarterback for sure my only concern is Curtis Samuel who they who they brought in who has a familiarity with Joe Brady as well and so do they kind of cancel each other out but I think both shakir's on this list for me as is Curtis like both guys I think are very worthwhile late round targets as well give you a couple other people uh in this um uh Darnell Mooney like no one's really talking about Darnell Mooney like we've talked about we expect the Falcons offense to be better cousins throwing more obviously London pits bejan Robinson but darn Moone is going to be the number two wide receiver in a dome on a pass first off under Zack Robinson again Zack Robinson from the LA Camp they go three wide receivers a lot like I think Darnell Mooney is going to be out there a lot more than than people think we've talked about the human dorch Greg dorch I think he's gonna have a big year Kyler Murray of course my Ry or die uh and dorch numbers with Murray especially with Ron Del Moore no longer there and like they've sort of it's a it's a much narrower Target Tree to me in Arizona so I really like uh dorch especially in PPR Jaylen McMillan is playing like every snap with the starters for the Tampa Buccaneers looks like he's locked down that number three wide receiver role it's obviously Evans and Godwin but what do people that may not be familiar with Jaylen McMillan not realized well he comes from this Washington offense where when they used him in the slot he looked great he needed to get stronger he got a lot stronger from even his last year at College to his NFL training camp which play strength was the number one thing for me this is a guy that I really like if Chris Godwin inevitably gets hurt again until then I think it's the targets aren't going to be there for him but if Godwin gets hurt and he's a you know guy that's been banged up before it feels like McMillan is going to get a lot of work early on and and then the last one Andre Yosh like I I know everyone's excited for Germaine Burton but like Yoshis is there he has the trust of Joe burrow and so like you've got hi he's I think he's gonna be their slot guy like he's gonna replace Tyler Boyd it's gonna be it's GNA be Higgins and Chase on the outside and we're waiting it's gonna second half of the Year may be Germaine Burton but for right now it's going to be Andre Yoshis who has good hands and has the trust of Joe burrow hey it's Matthew Barry from nbcsports.com and WR world.com and I want to thank you so much for watching whatever it is you just watched or if nothing else being too lazy to click out of the autoplay after this video started after whatever it is you actually wanted to watch finished but now that you're here I'd like to take a moment here to ask you respectfully respectfully now okay I'm asking you respectfully to subscribe to the NFL on NBC YouTube channel you'll get the latest roto world fantasy news headlines all sorts of great shows including my own fantasy football happy hour so go subscribe now again I'm asking respectfully