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[Music] Winnipeg hi I'm Jamie pesto and I host the cbc's Daily News podcast it's called Front Burner every weekday we explore the big news stories and issues shaping Canada and the world it could be the latest hurdle for Aid agencies on the ground in Gaza or a conversation with a tech whistleblower the Prime Minister recently stopped by too I am worried anytime Canadians are angry and pessimistic about the future Front Burner check us out wherever you get your podcast or on YouTube you know the feeling of finding a really good podcast or the feeling of someone always being there like your favorite radio show stream CBC podcast this is CBC News at 12:00 we're at 17° with overcast condition in downtown Winnipeg good afternoon I'm Matt Humphrey today manitobans are honoring the memory of Kathy Merrick the first ever woman Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs is now lying in state at the legislative building the Manitoba legislative building Karen Paul has your details Grand Chief Kathy Merrick's casket was led up the marble stairs of the Manitoba legislature by a group of indigenous singers carrying her headdresses and a star blanket RCMP and Winnipeg Police off officers were the Paw bearers the procession included family and first nation's leaders there was a private sacred ceremony before the public viewing began Merrick was a Pioneer the first female Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs she's being remembered as a powerful leader and Advocate who always had a kind word and a hug Merck's casket will be escorted out of the legislature at 5:00 and will be accompanied by horse riders to awake there will be a funeral Saturday in her home community of pimac cre Nation merik died suddenly last week collapsing while speaking to reporters in Winnipeg Karen Pauls CBC News Winnipeg the city of Winnipeg is revealing what it's prepared to do to help True North real estate redevelop Portage Place Mall that help adds up to 40 million in Grants and tax relief the cbc's Bartley keas explains the real estate wing of the company that owns the Winnipeg Jets plans to spend 600 50 million to purchase and redevelop Portage play True North plans to build a healthcare Tower and a residential Tower above the mall and dismantle the glass Atrium in a new report the city says it'll provide TR North with $14 million of property tax relief over the next 25 years plus $10 million worth of housing grants and $16 Million worth of infrastructure spending the province is helping the project by leasing medical space in the healthcare Tower true nor still has to pull the trigger on its purchase of the mall Mall from its private owner in Vancouver it must also pay the forks 35 million for the parade below the mall and the rights to build above it B leas CBC News Winnipeg we're hearing a warning today from Winnipeg Police about a scam involving fake taxis and debit cards skimming police say vehicles with fake taxi signs on their roofs drive through high traffic areas like parking lots a person acting as a passenger gets out and approaches a bystander for help they say the taxi doesn't accept cash and asks if they can borrow their debit card to pay their fair in exchange for cash the debit card is then skimmed and used to drain the victim's bank account police say the financial crimes unit is working with the city of Winnipeg to spread awareness of that scam a plan to convert a house into a live-in recovery facility in Linden Woods is facing opposition dozens of neighbors have filed appeals against the proposal and a hearing is set for today details now from the cbc's Cameron mlan the nonprofit Regenesis Center for Recovery wants to turn a house on Lindenwood Drive East into a temporary home for people recovering from addictions the city approved a conditional use application allowing the house to be used as a treatment facility 95 residents have filed notices of appeal against that decision along with 75 letters opposing the plan it would turn the house into a temporary location for Regenesis which plans to rent the house until around August 2025 while it searches for a permanent location it would provide supervised wraparound care to women non-binary adults and those who identify as people of color LGBT and disabled opponents of the plan note the home's proximity to a nearby School Senior's home and Community Center Cameron mlan CBC News when ieg Federal conservative leader Pierre pev says his party will put a non-confidence motion before the Commons at the earliest possible opportunity and it will be in his words a put up or shut up moment for jug me sing and the NDP I'm asking him to answer the question he has dodged 31 times will you vote non-confidence to trigger a carbon tax election at the earliest possible time yes or no last week sing announced he was ending the NDP supplying confidence agreement with the Liberals but pev has dismissed that as a politically motivated stunt designed to help the new Democrats in two byelections next Monday and finally turning to the weather if you like this extension of summerlike warmth we've been having you're going to enjoy the early part of the Fall earlier this week the highs have reached 30° Chris stammers is a meteorologist with environment and climate change Canada he says the heat is staying with us likely into October certainly this really hot weather that we've been seeing like our normal right now is only 19 and we're pushing 30 uh earlier this week and today will be a little cooler but still 23 is above normal and then it looks like the heat builds back in late this week and we stay mid to Upper 20s kind of well until almost middle or late next week stammer says the long range models so far say warmer than normal normal weather will continue and that is your CBC news from Winnipeg for news anytime you can head to our website cbc.ca Manitoba or you can use the CBC News app staying with the weather in Winnipeg today cloudy and Smoky a high of 20 3° Brandon a chance of showers or storms and Smoky a high of 23 dolin a chance of storms or showers a high of 22 Flyn flun very smoky you have an air quality advisory a high of 21 in Flyn fla Thompson Sunny a high of 20 and on the bay in Church Hill sunny and windy with a high of 17 you're listening to CBC [Applause] [Music] [Music] well good afternoon Manitoba and welcome to radio noon on CBC I'm rcy marcusa with our team here at the show on 893 FM 990 a.m. on the app and on YouTube this hour on the program it is not every day in fact in history in modern history there's only been two people that have had the honor in our whole Manitoba history only six it's not every day that someone is lying in state at our Manitoba legislature but Kathy Merrick is this afternoon we're going to take you there live off off the top of the show in a moment where faith fundal has been uh hearing from some of the people and experiencing the mood of what this means in addition this hour on noon it's a tale of abandoned children and an escape to a new life in Canada we're going to hear why an Ontario woman's headed to Scotland to share a story that was once a family [Music] Secret in addition on the call-in today of course last night some of you might have watched the US presidential debate if you did why why does it matter to you as a manitoban as a Canadian uh you can always call us in the back half of the show between 12:30 And1 we'll have that live conversation and you can leave a message now if you're not available over that part of the lunch hour it's 78837 97 12:07 is the time right now a small quick good afternoon to our team behind the controls May mckillop hi May uh Wendy Parker is producing radio noon today and also directing the program hi Wendy and good afternoon to Kevin Pabo who is once again behind the YouTube controls uh today if you want to weigh in on the program there watch what's happening well as mentioned let's now go to the ledge the late Grand Chief Kathy Amica the AMC's body Now lies in state at the Manitoba legislature now starting just moments ago the legislature is open to the public people there can sign a book of condolences and pay respects after a private ceremony was held this morning cbc's faith fundal is there you can hear in the background probably uh and they join us from the steps of the ledge hi Faith Marcy good afternoon so today began with a sunrise ceremony at the forks uh Kathy Merck's casket arriving where you are now uh at 10:00 Paul bears for the RCMP and Winnipeg Police Service carried her into the legislature what's the mood like there right now out here uh there's probably about a dozen or so of folks um lined up outside the legislative building uh people looking down on their phones uh some folks with their hands behind their backs uh I I would describe the scene here as um reserved folks are here to pay their tributes and and I briefly went inside to see how long the line goes when you enter the leg legislature you will see some flags and a book that folks uh can sign as well for people who want to uh pay their respects there is also room 200 and that is where the casket uh with the body of the former Grand Chief um lies in state the the door open at noon for the public today and they'll have until 5:00 roughly around there um to to be able to do that I would say there are lots of folks here who are wearing ribbon skirts um some folks wearing uh shoes with uh beads um folks here the sense that I get is that they're here to pay tribute to someone who is very important to them um what's the makeup of the crowd are you seeing you know old and young faces in that lineup as you described I'm just curious whether or not you know cuz effectively what we're what we're doing today is paying respects this is a this is a funeral service it is a funeral service and when when I look um there are what looks like moms with their kids some strollers are also here at the at the lineup um but there also uh are folks who um who are not young um many folks here who have known um Kathy Merrick for some time sitting outside having a cigarette just before we spoke um I I spoke with someone from sagin First Nation her name is mish Daniels she said she came here to pay her respects because her connection to Kathy Merck was from about 27 years ago um she tells me that Kathy was part of the original Sundance family in Spruce Woods Manitoba uh that I asked her what she thought Kathy might say if she saw what was happening here the attention and the honor that that the tributes that have been given and she said that really she is a shy person and and she might be very surprised with with what people are doing here there are many different types of folks who are here um but one thing is clear is that Kathy Merrick had an immense impact um in their lives and this is their way of being able to to reflect that uh anything to add Faith just while you're there and being mindful I know things are changing around you that you want to add while we have you live from the ledge the uh the family so my understanding from one of the security folks is that the public line um is open um but the they're not quite yet letting folks upstairs earlier today there were about 140 people in room 200 for the ceremony um another 60 folks uh have been watching from an overflow room um the ceremony was delayed a bit so uh right now folks are waiting outside but it it it did open at noon um and it is available here folks can pay their respects up until 5:00 p.m. all right faith I know you're going to have ongoing coverage once you get on the air with your program back here at CBC later thank you very much uh for being live and for being there this afternoon and uh taking some time for noon thank you that is cbc's Faith fundal uh who is of course the host of up to speed uh reporting live from the Manitoba legislature uh so as Faith mentioned people can sign the book of condolences in honor of Cathy Merrick that is from now until 8:00 tonight and you can pay respects to Kathy Merrick who is now lying in state until 5:00 today uh tonight just to reiterate her remains will be taken to the RBC Convention Center for awake she will then be returned to her home community of pimac crenation and uh what we're experiencing in the province as I alluded to and the conversation with Faith uh is uh is unusual uh this this honor that is bestowed upon someone so in recent memory uh merri Kathy Merrick's the only the second person to Lion state in recent history uh the other person in our recent memory would be Elijah Harper in 2013 and the sixth person in our entire provincial history so the other people who are on that list who have lied in state in Manitoba lay in state Manitoba Rodman Roblin 1937 sir hudon mc hudon mc John McDonald in 1929 also in 1929 James Albert Manning Akin and in 1896 John Christian Schultz if you want to read more about the life and the legacy of Kathy Merck please go to our web story uh at cbc.ca Manitoba [Music] whether it's breaking news from around the world across the country or in your own Hometown it's all at your fingertips on the CBC News app get the top stories from where you live under the local tab or watch video clips Live Events and the national on your smartphone or tablet get all the news you want when you want it where you want it with the CBC News app download the app for free [Music] today well let's get into the weather uh for your noon hour here it is uh 13 minutes after 12:00 we're at 19° our daytime high today on winipeg is 24 so cooler than yesterday uh but still above our normal temperatures at this time of year the average high for Winnipeg 19 so we're going to reach 24 uh winds are comet is uh well some sunshine in the downtown little bit hazy we've had an air quality statement with us because of the smoke uh coming into to tonight's forecast we're going to go get to 16 degrees for an overnight low and then tomorrow a mix of sun and clouds and a high again of 29 but as Matt was just saying on the news we are in for a warm rest of the month and even into October above normal temperatures so that's what we're looking at for today in Winnipeg currently around the province Tuli lake is the cold spot at 11° sprag is the warm spot just at 20° right now and we do have still those Smoky conditions including all the way up to Flyn flon with smoke being reported this hour over in Brandon it's mostly cloudy it is 17° currently and in Dolphin right now it is sunny and it is 18° uh looking further around the province of Victoria Beach sitting at 17 so uh maybe you still have some time off maybe you're still in the beaches areas of Manitoba uh and over in Roblin it is also 17 so pretty consistent across Southern Manitoba [Music] well let don't know about you but in my family there are secrets Sometimes they come out accidentally like when you're at a family gathering and someone says something and you're like what what happened what's the story there a Canadian woman is setting out on a trip to Scotland but not just to see the sites jaim Lee is headed from Southern Ontario to Dundee where she'll curate an exhibition at the city's Central Library it is about her great grandmother and it's called left at the wellgate the untold story of Mary Petri Smith the display explores a long hidden Family secret that took some sleuthing to uncover the untold story is is that in 1911 she left two boys one and two her two sons in a pram in front of a pub and left to make her way to Canada we we knew uh she was from Scotland my great-grandmother but we had no other information she was very tight lipped about her background never shared anything and if you were to ask you would not get an answer so so it was after she passed after her son my grandfather passed here in Canada my grandmother and I started to do a little sleuthing it was soon discovered that she had been married before in Scotland and then soon after I found that she had these two children and I was flabbergast to say the least no one here in Canada knew knew of this for my grandmother who that would have been her mother-in-law they didn't really get on that well but she knew something was was not right and she knew she had a secret and so for her it she thought this finally I know you know she got the answer for me I I needed to know more that's you know where I was I needed to know why um my grandmother too she said you know there's even though we didn't get along she said there is no way she left those children unless she absolutely had to and that thing that she said to me has stuck with me all this time and has pushed me forward um to you know find out more and to you know think there definitely was something that that made her do it it wasn't she was just a horrible person and this is what she did um because she ended up having three sons here in Canada including my grandfather and she was a wonderful mother I did get in touch with her husband's family there and this is the story that they were telling that she left them there in front of a pup and so part of that seems kind of unlikely to me you know she didn't drink he didn't drink why a pub you know that sort of thing but you know when you look at what was going on in Dundee at that time the crowding uh you know 72% of the population lived in two rooms and one of them was the kitchen and you may have had seven children and you're living in a two- room tenement Canada was advertising for Scottish workers to come in every field here in the ship building Fields farming domestic service and so a lot of men were leaving and leaving their families behind and and not sending for them after because you know once they got here they started a new life I did learn that her husband took the children and they all moved into one of these tenaments with his parents and his sister and his older brother the oldest son you know had a very good life and so forth and the youngest son had had a lot of struggles I tucked it away for 20 years uh because when I got back from Scot and I I was emotionally drained and I just was having a really difficult time with it I felt a lot of Shame a lot of Sorrow I can see right now I get upset at talking about it but a series of synchronicities happened when we were in lockdown and I started to look at the material again and then everything just started to take hold and I saw a post on Facebook that the Dundee Library was doing this wellgate project and the wellgate is where she left the children and they were looking for stories so I thought I have a story when I went to the spot where she left the children there's a set of stairs it's a medieval shopping district or rather it's been there since the medieval times and so I was brought to the spot and I wanted to see this rather famous spot as well where she left the children and I gleefully walked up these steps and as soon as I I got to the third step I could not go any further further and I just broke down crying was I feeling what she felt that day was I feeling what they felt that day um so when I got back I I as I say I left it alone and I've just now gone back to I'm back in there Jam Lee headed from Southern Ontario to Dundee Scotland where a month-long exhibition will open on the weekend on Saturday at the city's Central Library it is all about her great grandmother and I don't know if you're going to have the guts to call us or if it'll be uh allowed in your family but if you have a family secret and you have a story to share about how that unfolded in your own world we'd love to hear about it 788 3797 is the listener line here on radio noon 788 3797 Angeline tedo hosts the block afro beats to Jazz hip hop to R&B Calypso kez the Ben Michelle Montano Bob Marley Bounty Killer so we really give all these artists a chance to shine in the keys in the programming and and making it make sense and and making sure that the music is fluid a fluid experience the block with angelene Tao available now on CBC listen how you doing out there on your lunch hour uh getting through it as I was saying a short week last week and uh now we're into the full week it's a back around is school day number one on the cycle so maybe you're on lunch and you're a student got your earbuds in out there in the sunshine uh 19 right now in Winnipeg and uh it is uh well some sun downtown in other parts of the city it's actually quite hazy and cloudy and as we've been mentioning we're going to head to a high of 24 uh today in Winnipeg well our call-in is coming up shortly between 12:30 and 1:00 we invite you in uh on a conversation to uh call in and let us know what you're thinking on various topics we do that daily today we're going to invite you live to call in and have a conversation with us about last night's presidential debate in the United States it was a historic debate this is just uh uh weeks now before the US president presidential election effectively a faceof between KLA Harris and Donald Trump and they're in a fight for the White House they're nearly in a dead heat when you look at the pools and uh this was the first time that they met face to face so that was interesting as well I watched all of it I'm wondering if you did too and why what did you think and what prompted you to watch as a manitoban as a Canadian why did you watch uh so you can uh get ready to call in live we're hoping you'll write down the number maybe now and you know weigh in one uh pardon me I always give the area code uh the number to call 20478 893 20478 893 have that handy or you can also call the listener line now to get you thinking about this let's play an exchange from last night's debate this is KLA Harris and Donald Trump and part of their exchange over abortion rights I absolutely support reinstating the protections of roie Wade and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and an an asking for an abortion that is not happening it's insulting to the women of America and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments what is happening in our country working people working women who are working one or two jobs who can barely afford child care as it is have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable and the people of America have not the majority of Americans believe in a woman 's right to make decisions about her own body and that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot in red and blue States both the people of America have voted for Freedom vice president excuse me I have to respond another lie it's another lie I have been a leader on IVF which which is feralization the IVF I have been a leader in fact when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in I've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the other thing they you should ask will she allow abortion in the eighth month ninth month seventh month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask her that question why don't you because under you could do abortions in the seventh month eth month the ninth month and probably after birth so that is not true that was corrected last night and one of the US networks uh was was doing a fact check uh during the debate en counted 33 lies that Donald Trump told last night that was one of them I just want to clarify here off the top when KLA Harris in that exchange was saying as you rightly point out she was not referring to Donald Trump she was referring to the moderator who was also in another moment of correcting something that was uh falsely um said by Donald Trump last night uh so that was just one exchange the whole debate was an hour and a half it was live and uh we're going to hear uh what you had to think what you thought about it last night why did you watch why do you care about it why are you following the election in the states as a matat toin uh what is your inpoint on this and so we want to hear from you in our live call in today our guest uh to talk us through it and we'll hear more from the debate as well is sea McDonald instructor at the University of Manitoba asper School of Business who also has uh specialty degrees uh in politics and government so uh stay tuned for that between 12 3m1 and we hope you uh join in and call us live 12:26 is the time currently it's 19° as we've been mentioning in Winnipeg and uh earlier this hour we heard Matt uh mention on the news how warm it's been and how warm we're going to stay and so we kind of pulled music that feels a little bit summery it's got the vibe it's from Vancouver's Ivan hardle who spent a good part of the last few months out on the road this Tunes called so am I [Music] [Music] I this I know always a CR and stay yes and I'm living all my life and [Music] now you got me feeling some kind way just your laugh after is that I could just your life is so D set you fly and high so [Music] [Music] I'm [Music] qu so be right with you next to I never get enough for what you do what you do [Music] oh I can never get enough of you I oh just your love and after is everything that I could wish just your love is all down set you fly and high so might so mighty [Music] cuz when I'm on the way to [Music] the nothing but your precious love and all my ti [Music] [Music] laugh after all everything I could just love is said you fly and so so am I that's Ivan hardle on radio noon I'm Marcy marusa sitting in for uh Janet Stewart this week thanks so much for joining us here on CBC 893 FM 990 a.m. on the app and on YouTube and we sure hope you stick around uh for after the news because our call in our live Callin is going to begin so here are the numbers once again if you want to weigh in on last night's US presidential debate did you watch why did you watch why are you paying attention to the US presidential election this year in particular so we've already got some comments coming in but if you want to call live just a reminder of those numbers once again they are 20478 893 or you can text us as well 24588 7355 your CBC radio news is next this is CBC News at 12:30 we're at 19° with overcast conditions in downtown Winnipeg good afternoon I'm Matt Humphrey members of the public can now pay their respects to the late Kathy [Music] Merrick the body of the first woman Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs is lying in state at the legislature before the public viewing her casket was led into the building the cbc's Ian fras reports while her family and First Nation Chiefs looked on the casket holding the body of the late Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs was carried by RCMP officers and slow walked up the steps of the legislature behind her Merrick's family some wearing red ties solemnly followed behind along with First Nation Chiefs Premier wob Cano and other community members once inside the legislature the procession was led up the grand staircase and into a room for a private ceremony a public viewing is scheduled to start during the noon hour and continue until 5:00 p.m. then A procession will lead the MERS to the RBC Convention Center for awake Ian fras CBC News Winnipeg at least 179 people are dead after typhoon yagi tore its way through Vietnam that's the sound of boats filled with emergency supplies making their way along flooded roads to access stranded Villages even parts of the capital Hanoi are underwater after the Red River in Vietnam overflowed yagi is the most powerful typhoon to strike Asia this year for days it walloped Northern Vietnam ravaging infrastructure and triggering evacuation orders for thousands of people and as you've been hearing pop Superstar Taylor Swift is throwing her support behind Democratic nominee kamla Harris it dropped last night moments after both presidential candidates sparred in their first and possibly only debate the endorsement to her 283 million Instagram followers could have a large influence on the November election here's Caroline Bargo with more last night was a big success for president Trump that's Donald Trump's national press secretary Caroline levit but most people who watch the ABC News debate would disagree polls show 63% of Voters think kamla Harris did a better job the Democrats started off a little shaky but she stayed on message and tried to show American voters that she had the right temperament to be president Trump on the other hand started off strong criticizing the Biden Harris Administration for high inflation rates but as the night wore on it became apparent he was Ill prepared and had a hard time Landing the key points of his campaign despite that levit insists support for the former president has grown they trust president Trump more to handle the economy than they do kamla Harris and his support on the econ on the issue of the economy actually increased after last night's debate Harris has challenged Trump to another debate in October but he has yet to agree to that Caroline Bargo CBC News Washington and for news anytime head to our sitee cbc.ca Manitoba all right thank you Matt back soon uh Matt Humphrey in our news center this morning it is 12:33 on radio noon on CBC I'm RC marcusa our call in begins in a moment on that debate but first let's go to Riley lck and talk more about the weather hi hi uh I'm going to put a call out first I did this on up to speed yesterday I'll do it again today uh I'm looking for some of your weather photos to share anywhere in Manitoba something sceny might not get to it on the show tonight but certainly uh throughout the week I'll try get some more weather photos on I love showcasing our do you also take photographs yourself do you like that absolutely what's your can you describe one of your faves this summer you probably have a lot but oh I I'm a sucker for a good Sunset yeah so yeah my favorite one I just had blown up actually we did a live information radio morning show uh in Clear Lake oh right right uh around the whole zebra muscle issue uh and that was when the curtain was being installed the one we now know is now out of the lake but uh when we were there I got you'll you'll love it I should send it to you I I know that he won't use on air he won't do that okay uh but it was actually of a sunset so you'll appreciate I a sucker for a good Sunset love getting out when I can because sometimes it gets dark quite early when we're still here uh to to get some good Sunset photos sometimes I just get in the car drive somewhere do you oh you're like that that's serious about it uh anyway talk back at cbc.ca I'll be waiting for uh some photos I'll talk about the air quality quick because we still do have some air quality uh alerts in place air quality advisory for Grand Rapids uh the PFF llon uh into Lin Lake again today this is from Wildfire smoke that is coming in from Saskatchewan little bit of haze still hanging around here in southern Manitoba that's because of wildfires that are burning in Idaho that smoke is being dragged up uh along a bit of instability that is starting to move into Manitoba so we have a little bit of cloud cover starting to build into Southern Manitoba generally a suncloud mix I'll talk about that air quality Health index again today that scale of 1 to 10 plus Brandon yesterday at that 10 plus through the evening hour last night Winnipeg we were at about a six yesterday right now Brandon's at a five which is in that moderate range consider reducing or rescheduling activities if you're at risk or prone to Wildfire smoke uh anything like that uh five4 five is when we sort of see that noticeable haste so just putting that out there we'll see that air quality kind of ebing and flowing throughout the day again today across Southern Manitoba and really most of central and Northern Manitoba as well bit of instability rolls into night I think a slim chance of a scattered shower in Winnipeg best chance of showers comes through the overnight hours into early morning through places like Brandon through Dolphins Swan over the Parkland region good chance of seeing a few showers overnight into Thursday otherwise it mix the Sun and clouds as we get through the rest of Thursday into Friday better chance of showers once again through the south in terms of rainfall accumulation General I'm saying 2 to 5 maybe up to 10 mm in parts of the Parkland area as some of that instability rolls through into the overnight period tonight but just a trace through the Red River Valley uh through the night tonight 20° right now in Winnipeg 17 in Brandon looking at temperatures across the south in the low 20s today I've got winipeg at 24° looking at 29 again for Thursday 28 for Friday and temperatures in the high 20s Marcy uh right through into next week next best chance for showers in winipeg comes through Sunday Monday I was uh paying attention to that carefully I went out and watered last night I was looking at everything yeah all right thank you Riley no problem it is 23 minutes to 1:00 and thanks for joining us here on radio noon it's time for our Callin so a reminder of the numbers in a moment but first let's set up what we're going to talk about today shall We There is a lot at stake in this US presidential race and the debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump last night was historic they clashed on several key topics like Foreign Relations economy immigration and a woman's right to choose and it's unusual to have a debate like this uh when uh some of the candidates uh lie Donald Trump uh you Us Media and certainly CBC as well uh track uh these things and last night one of the US Outlets counted 33 lies so uh watching anything like this live for an hour and a half is really something we want to know why you watched why are you watching the US presidential debate as a manit toin what's at stake for you and as a Canadian what engages you in this particular race so call us live and let us know if you watched last night and we'll get you in on the conversation uh the number to call 20478 893 204 78 893 you can also text 20458 7355 and I've got a number of um of Facebook comments as well that have been coming in I posted we were going to talk about this uh sea McDonald's going to be a big part of our conversation uh Sean joins us via Zoom he's an instructor at the asper School of Business at the University of Manitoba with degrees in politics and government and an expert in negotiation hi there good afternoon so let's play a really short clip just to get started because this is actually how the debate started last night this is the handshake between KLA har Harris uh when she first stepped out cuz these two people had never met before in person KLA Harris have a good debate see you have fun thank you what' you make even right off the GGO uh watching last night it was kind of icky I was it was uncomfortable on several levels and after what I thought was a somewhat policy driven first question or two it devolved and it just got worse and worse um my take on this like so many is I believe Harris won decisively but not a knockout punch meaning unlike with Joe Biden where after the debate the uh supporters of Biden were feeling very uh despondent hopeless even um and readily admitted that that uh they needed a new candidate the Trump supporters even though Trump performed I think by most accounts quite poorly um are not despondent now the I should add another thing is that we're talking Marcy about a pretty um small amount of Voters that are going to be persuaded there's a a confirmation bias on both sides so they'll uh those that supported Trump or were leaning towards Trump will probably still feel the same those with Harris will definitely feel the same and then there's this group in the middle and of that group in the middle the group in the middle that is out of Swing States is what they're really targeting and there is the voters that they're after and right now I would say that [Music] um Harris overperformed um I thought she could not have been better in some ways and Trump uh was one of his worst performances it's you know it's kind of a sliding scale because his debates with Joe Biden were um a bit of a freefor all and a mass um but uh I I think we would have to give it to Harris but not an AO punch uh we just lost a caller actually I know somebody had just called in so Tyler we lost you on the line if you want to call back 780 893 if you want to weigh in in the conversation let's get into some of the comments that are coming in here Sean some of these came in this morning we're asking on Facebook when I was mentioning we're going to do this I I always invite people if you can't make it over lunch hour to write to us at CBC so we're asking did you watch last night why uh particularly why in your you know perspective as a manitoban uh Brian Jameson said yes my wife and I watch because we spend six months a year living in the US so American politics is important to us sounds like they're snowbirds the debate was a thing of beauty so obviously Brian it sounds like at least I'm inferring leaning to feeling that KLA Harris did a um had a solid performance last night uh but I shouldn't infer that because he didn't elaborate uh Grace Martell says I can't say I've really followed us politics that closely uh but I understand the issues I I would really though not look forward to four more years of listening to Trump uh really really Grace writes M I need to do the tone correctly Grace says really migrants and immigrants eating dogs cats and pets and if you miss a debate I want to play the clip of this we've got this lined up so this was one of the moments a lot of people are talking about today in Springfield they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they're eating the pets you talk about extreme oh when we listen to this kind of rhetoric when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed I think the choice is clear in this election so that was the exchange that people are talking about he went on also Sean to say that uh Trump did last night uh you know when when it was verified you know that there is no proof of this city officials in the in the place that he's talking about if even they went so far as to verify journalists that nothing like this had happened Trump said he saw it on TV um what does it say to you about the state of American politics that we have someone that's running to uh to lead the United States and he's he's he's quoting things that apparently he saw somewhere on television that are egregious and and many this morning obviously are talking about as you know as as racist yeah so this uh has almost disqualifying components to it when we we take this lowest of low roads uh when speaking about you know killing dogs and and eating dogs and so on um American politics is at a much higher level of AC ony than we see in Canada we may have you know very um disquieting comments and mean-spirited comments but we're not at that level I must say however that Trump just doesn't happen in a vacuum there is a market a significant Market that not only Buys in but vociferously adopts almost everything he says and that's also part of American politics so we've and it's exacerbated by social media so we have a real uh comparison here why this matters though I'll give you four reasons number one uh we're part of NATO the US is a dominant uh contributor and player in NATO and uh whoever wins this will change or keep the composition of much of man number two we're a big trade part partner with the United States and once again if there's major tariffs imposed that's going to affect the economy in Canada and that's going to affect people in Manitoba number three I think that um very troublingly a permission structure has now been uh established over the nine years that Trump's been around that it's okay to bash immigrants and and that's really troubling because that type of attitude can go for it and and the number four reason is the institutions that Donald Trump has bashed things like the Judiciary uh everything from the IRS to uh even oddly law enforcement uh that attitude of lack and and elections themselves that lack of faith in uh those institutions could also move north and it's for those four reasons that this election matters quite a bit to Canadians uh and and let's be clear too about some of what he said uh you know he said he would long-term imprison people who are his political opponent opponents even donors to parties uh that aren't you know supporting him so he's laid out things that he would do and you're talking about what he would do in institutional uh changes that he would make uh let's go to a caller who's called in live to radio noon this is Mark online line one hi Mark Hi how are you I'm well why'd you watch last night um well I've been trying to watch it for the last I don't know how many hundreds of days but um yesterday it just to me she put the bully in the corner and he couldn't find his way out um he's had 750 days to get himself ready for this point and she's only had 51 and she outclassed him um there's another thing too is the the whole border uh uh issue he um he had the bill sitting on his desk in January 2023 and he refused to sign it to make it go against the Democratic party so he put himself in front of the country first he basically told his own party not to vote for it um so I don't really know what more that people need to hear from him his his rhetoric his lies it's just old already it it we're tired of it what uh what is your emotional feeling I mean they're neck and neck going into last night pretty much I'm wondering Mark as a Canadian uh what what would worry you most given that you obviously outlined that you have concerns about Donald Trump what would worry you most as a Canadian and as a manitoban should he be elected in November well I think I think mostly like the tariffs as well right like him imposing all these uh tariffs as you know uh Canada has a lot of natural resources and we export a lot of stuff to the US this would hurt Canada a lot um this and this is a guy who really doesn't look up to his allies I mean Canada should be one of his allies to him he looks up to uh Victor uh Orban how many times did he talk about Victor Orban yesterday Victor or Orban is a puppet of Vladimir Putin this is the guy that you look up to Kim junun president shei but these are the guys that you consider your allies and your friends if you do that there's something mentally wrong with you uh thank you for for calling in to uh to the noon show today I appreciate you uh calling in with your perspective mark thank you thank you so Sean I want to ask you to build on something that was said there uh that Mark shared he he was talking he highlighted the tariffs when I asked you know what his worry would be as a Canadian in a manitoban um what's your sense of you know the perspective on that and the context rather for that in terms of tariffs specifically that maybe people might want to lean into and pay attention to uh to whatever happens in the states well I I think uh right away Agriculture and auto and uh we do a great deal of uh exporting directly to the United States and what's going to happen is that uh with the America First that means Outsiders last and what that means is that The Outsiders the people that are exporting to the United States will have to pay these tariffs and therefore sell them in the United States at far less competition and simply not have the market in the United States that they used to this will create inflation and it'll create a lot of inflation in the United States but for Canadians it's going to slow things down and they're going to have to find other markets um I want to bring up one other thing and that is the um the caller talked about Donald Trump's I guess pension for cozying up to strong men and dictators and mention that um that's concerning because it's doing so at the expense of some of the traditional allies and traditional uh ways in which we've done our foreign relations and if we start involving these new cast of characters in a meaningful way that may be at the expense of all the other relationships we have and I think that's a loss uh I want to I want to just put the numbers out again as well I've got a couple more comments from listeners here also so if you want to call us 7800 893 78 0893 if you're talking to your radio I always say just pick up the phone and call we're going to run it a time it's at 10 to1 you can call now 78 00893 if you want to text 204 588736 uh Our Guest to help us through this uh via Zoom live with us on radio noon is sea McDonald instructor at asper School of Business at the University of Manitoba an expert in negotiation and also uh with degrees in in politics uh so Judy hovic wrote into CBC this matters because the US is our biggest and closest neighbor an ally it's a cousin living next door that's how Judy uh words things uh constant Cravens wrote in I am part of the lgbtqia plus Community I support women's rights to their own bodies I'm against guns being purchased for everyone I'm also a person of color I do not support limits on immigration uh and I I hope that kamla gets in constant rights I'm so tired of having old anglo-american privileged men in government there are other people who have ideas too in America not just them and um finally Chris br writing in the US election will be most the most consequential election uh for not just the us but the entire world um is that overstated in your view or or what does it stake here in your view Sean it's hard to say that it's something is the most cons consequential politicians say this every day that this is the most important election and what's new about this one though what's concerning about it is that there for the first time really until three years ago there's a real fear of a peaceful transition of government and if that does not occur so if Harris wins but they're not happy about it um to go down this sort of rabbit hole is a little scary because it it this one is unique for the fact that there may be people who will resist a new government and that will lead to a great deal of uh destabilizing influences throughout the United States that one worries me quite a bit some of the other stuff uh we have a way of sorting out these economic issues I believe uh your uh uh Facebook or writing in y yeah uh is very correct that we are moving towards a society you would hope that is more incl iive and yet we see some sides particularly far right us is is going in the exact opposite direction of shutting things down and let Trump reasons we're worried and let's take Trump at his word because last night I just this is factually last night when he was asked about January 6th and what happened in the states uh he doubled down on on what happened there and he has said that uh you know he said repeatedly last night he he about you know the the the peaceful transition of power he continues to say well as long as it's fair and we'll have a huge problem with that he uses words like like bloody when he's describing these things we do have uh two more calls here so let's Boogie along so here we go we have Allan with us Allan what concerns you about last night because I understand you have some concerns well one of the biggest concerns is Trump's influence um on Ukraine and the fact that uh Putin will have free reign as kamla Harris said he would already be in keev if Trump were president um and that will affect Europe incredibly and if uh Putin actually advances through Ukraine we're all going to be in big trouble as a manat toobin uh alen what concerns you from your perspective here in our Province well I'm of Ukrainian Heritage and a lot of people in Manatoba are of Ukrainian Heritage and uh I think um we're very concerned about the global issues as much as anything here um I agree that uh tariffs would be disastrous for us um but there are issues that are incredibly larger including Trump's effect on climate change in the United States which would uh be horrendous he's just a very bad choice he has to lose very badly in the states to get the message through that things have to change there thank you for calling in Alan we're going to go to another one of our callers thank you for raising climate for us to talk about and also what was said about Ukraine last night appreciate it thank you Dave uh is on next caller here we have a Sean will just go to another caller before we run out of time uh why did you watch last night Dave uh I didn't if I wanted to hear a b an old man Babble I'd call my dad but I read the highlights of it um my fear is for the authoritarianism fascism type stuff that likes to promote like they're the most powerful country in the world and I don't want to see that kind of leadership there who support like the other person said like Putin and North Korea and all that like it's I want them I want them to be a good role model for other people in other elections and things that we don't have to move that way thank you for weighing in on radio noon Dave appreciate it uh so Sean back to you I'm just in terms of what's being raised there in terms of the importance of the global relationships um what are your thoughts on that and us as you know we as Canadians here how we should uh be be viewing last night in the those relationships you started the conversation today talking about about NAFTA yeah so this is not just an old man yelling at a cloud this has some real um economic and truly our way of life uh implications with NAFTA um first of all NAFTA the usmca was was rebranded um I expected that to be far more uh uh streamlined and less available for Canadians to access us markets I think in terms of NATO we need to be very concerned that the US May threaten to uh uh redefine its relationship with NATO with far less commitment and that's going to affect many other elements in the globe and your uh color correctly identified climate change uh I know we're out of time but the reality is that when you have a candidate that's just saying drill baby drill that type of Reckless attitude and almost denialism towards the really existential threat of of climate change is irresponsible and disappointed uh I I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you what you're gonna as a last question because we're getting ready to wrap here in a moment uh what you think about the weeks ahead but just really briefly though I need to I need to introduce though this thing about KLA Harris last night because you you brought up drill baby drill for Trump KLA Harris is being accused of trying to have it both ways back in the day saying that maybe you know she'd be anti-fracking saying last night she's not against fracking but she is highlighting green initiatives can she have that both ways um people evolve and so to agree you know it's it's okay in some cases although they say not in politics to change your mind so uh she changed her mind I will say this there is areas that require scrutiny of C KLA Harris like why didn't this happen in the three and a half years she was in office which were Trump's closing statements actually he waited the whole debate and then brought that up later yeah there were a lot of things that because we're all over the place didn't land um and it made it such a one-sided debate kamla Harris deserves scrutiny but against kind of this mishmash of xenophobia and anger uh it was lost so in our last uh minute here then how do you think the next weeks are going to go for these candidates leading up to November okay so I think there's two things they'll focus in on the first is to identify their vote and bring it out and the second is to um convince that tiny sliver of the population that's undecided and in swing states that they move to to their side in some ways I think the Democrats have a better ground game they always do and they have early voting through mail and ballots that favors that the uh counter factor is that the Republicans always seem to underscore in polls with the exception of 22 with the uh dod's decision available so that's my long- winded way of saying I'm not sure if I were to bet I would bet Democrats CL we're wrapping it there Sean McDon on our live call in from the aspar School of Business at U ofm thank you thanks everyone for calling this is cbc's Radio noon I'm Mercy marcusa