Don't Tell Me How To Fan - Episode 1: Love - Hurts when it's Jordan

hello everyone my name is Josh alre and I used to talk about sports on the radio for a few minutes when I had the opportunity and I realized that I still wanted to do that because I'm an emotional sports fan and I wanted to be able to continue telling people how I feel and telling everyone that wants me to feel a certain way about sports teams hey don't tell me how to fan and so I started this podcast with my good friend John Taylor John how we doing I'm doing well as well could be seeing as how our world was rocked last night in uh San Paulo Brazil of all places very true so John and I went to high school together we've been friends for a long time uh John is also a huge sports fan and you also don't live anymore in the state of Wisconsin yes that's correct I'm out on the west coast uh in Portland Oregon um I love Wisconsin I love their sports teams but I had to get out so I did and even though you were two hours behind we were all watching the same game live last night as the Packers lost to the Eagles and the game for me was rather frustrating and we'll get into the to the you know pieces of it but five seconds left in the game Jordan love goes down with an injury and all of a sudden all of the notes didn't matter all of the thoughts about oh man you know I'm so mad I mean I was talking with some of our mutual friends and saying oh this is so sad that this team comes out with this type of performance they had an opportunity in this game and they pissed it away and then you just crumple up that piece of paper and you go oh my God Jordan Love's injured Nothing Else Matters Nothing Else Matters he went down and I started questioning my own life you yes you know why did I did I not do enough as a fan did I you know you should have done more John should I should I have went on a longer walk today you knowa better you know that's the kind of stuff that starts spir I I know that this is this is like all right calm down but why does this stuff happened to us the amount of Graphics that I've seen already with like the pictures of Giannis and him being helped off the court side by side with now Jordan love and I'm like oh this is brutal and here's the other the other image that popped into my mind that I almost didn't want to say out loud but you know there were a lot you don't you don't have to say it just for the record if yeah I'm gonna say whatever all right fair enough there were a lot of Packers fans when when Aaron roders went down in week one last year for the Jets that were like yeah and now here well I think the biggest difference is that Aaron Rogers is old and sure insane but the point is it was a crazy injury right it was you got to be kidding me is this really happening in week one now he didn't even get you know a pass off you know but right either way it was the seasons done with the Jets it was the season done yep obviously time of this podcast that we're recording this it's uh the morning after the game everyone's been Doom scrolling all night on Twitter looking for updates from this person that person yeah the most we know at this point is what as of right now the most um the most upto-date uh report I could find was by Diana Rini she tweeted about 45 minutes ago when the Packers land Jordan love will get an MRI I'm told an ankle injury has been ruled out at this point right now it's just a wait and see for more information on the injury so to dive into that a little bit more um I went the way I skipped a lot of the weird crossports photo shops and I went straight to the Twitter doctors that's right people people always you can always rely on the Twitter doct people who are medically trained and just as far away from the field as I am um yeah I mean there's there's a wide range of things you know a lot of a lot of them uh reported pretty quickly uh it could be a sprain could be an MCL ACL issue you know whenever they talk about the the pop that you experience and you know which everyone saw broken down frame by frame yeah like the suud film it is it is extensive to say the least yeah um you know it's not good it's not good you know as Packers fans I think we have to hope that um it's more in the Patrick Mahomes side of knee injuries you know he had that nasty injury I don't remember if it was last year the year before but he was only out two weeks surprisingly enough yeah um you know there's if it's an MCL tear I mean we got to start having a conversation a very different conversation which uh you know I don't know if we want to go into I think I think we do so this is this is what I want it therapeutic for me as a fan okay I want to play this out I want to play out the options I don't like this well let's keep analyzing what it could be we know it's going to be what three situations either we know he's not playing next week right so yeah that seems the least likely correct so let's let's go you know two weeks if he's out that magical two weeks somehow I don't we're all taking a deep sigh and going deep breath going okay this is this is going to this is amazing that this is all it is we'll sacrifice those two games and then look at the rest of the season if it's season ending right the other extreme then we're looking at this and going well that's the season right is do any is anyone holding on to hope that if Jordan loves not our quarterback the Packers are going to go get someone else or there's anything see I I'm putting that to rest because of the rest of the division this isn't a time to where you could win this division with you know a 500 record like I just it's not going to be that type of season so I just don't even if you got a mediocre quarterback somehow you traded pick something to get a guy it doesn't matter I it's just you needed to have that home run hitter and yeah that's where it is so that's I'm looking at for the two ends of the spectrum bringing it in to the like four to eight week somewhere in there yeah what are your feelings John on what this team does and can do if that's where he's at well that's what I wanted to bring up right so if you look at the the next three weeks we've got Colts Titans Vikings those are winnable games without Jordan love um do I wish are they do I wish yes I I think they are I I do I wish Malik Wills would have brought been brought in sooner yes um do I wish that maybe they would have waited for the Browns to cut 17 quarterbacks that all have played meaningful games sure um but this is the world where in I mean none of these quarterbacks I keep seeing go get tanah Hill keep seeing go get flacko which is hilarious because I don't think people realize he's on an NFL roster that he chose to sign with um he's not available they could still go get him sure I mean but why would you waste draft capital on a guy anyways there there's a point to that you you waste that because if you think you need a guy to carry you when if if if your guy's going to be out six games and you think you can waste a draft pick to get three wins in those six games then your guy comes back you're saving the season yeah let's say let's say let's say six games I I truly believe um that the Packers could scheme around a malila start and still win I really really do Matt laflor is that good I think some of the things I didn't like about last night were um Matt really took his hands off the the game plan in the first half it felt like a lot of like hey we are going to go let Jordan love we and deal we paid him all this money we got Josh Jacobs let's just let him run straight at the line and let's see what he can do and the answer was not a ton you know when we started introducing Gadget plays getting the ball to the skills positions faster you know mostly Jaden Reed um the the team is very very talented you know re going back into the um training camp portion of it you know and the final 53 man roster I think there was something like you know how many players were actually claimed off of um signed two teams and I think it was like six or seven maybe it was more either way three of them were Packers that's absurd the last time the Packers had a guy signed off their team was I think in the I mean it was like over 20 years ago so I just you know that only happens when you have a very talented roster um say what you want about where we stand without Jordan love say what you want about the performance last night everybody widely agreed that this Talent this roster is very very talented and as such I think yeah I think you you bring in a guy like Malik Willis because he has a tool set that you think you can use do I I think the team's GNA look a lot different without Jordan love I mean Malik is way more willing to scramble um you know I I just I'm more willing to put Faith and and gave it a shot over the next week or two to see how it goes because he's already in the building I mean you already put in the capital I mean like so so you don't think that the Packers are going to go look for someone else and that they had Malik Willis as a well this is a simple we might as well do this now get a guy back up if it's more than if it's more than the four to six week range I think they should go get somebody I'm saying like we we are right now in week one yeah that's I mean and because because if you're gonna if it's more than four to six weeks then I understand that they they can't fold the season right teams can't do that but then you might as well just ride it out with a guy you're is there anyone out there that the Packers are really going to be able to get that's going to save the entire season love never coming back I so yeah I mean tanah Hill seems like it seems like you know he went on he also went on Diana rini's new podcast and he flat out said I'm a Hired Gun uh teams are interested I'm not interested in really playing backup and I would like to see what the season looks like and I want to sign with the team and so there there you know he's somebody I mean we're talking about former pro bowl player Tyler Hunley I think I don't believe he was signed anywhere I mean I could be wrong but there there is there are there are more talented quarterbacks available than what we have on the roster right now I I mean all things being equal goody clearly thought that Malik Willis was an interesting Prospect he definitely thought he was better than Michael Pratt and um Shawn Clifford which I think is totally fair so so I don't know you know I guess like I guess in my head this injury happened six weeks from now Malik is like fully you know integrated I I would feel way better about it then like he he's gonna have to start with the shortest amount of time coming in and that that is a problem to me that is not loss on me it's gonna it's gonna be rough so and and like we mentioned by the time that a lot of people might be seeing this there might be more news about Jordan love and what is going to happen next and so then we move on from that let's talk about last night because you talked about Matt LeFleur and you know kind of what he did in the game and how he changed the the mindset in that game when I watched week one of the Packers against the Eagles I saw penalties missed opportunities dumb mistakes those three things the the the biggest one for me was the dumb mistakes it seemed it seemed like and and you can put the blame wherever you want right some people don't want to put on the coach they want to put on the players it's hard to know for sure right because one you know leflour can say I'm mad at my guys because we had a plan and they didn't go out there and execute but I kind of look at it and I go you're the coach your job is to have your players ready to execute that running these plays until they puke y because so that they're literally burned into their memory and so many dumb dumb mistakes I'm I'm going we can't be doing this week one already we're we're gonna suffer through this well the problem is with the the Matt lefur area it is really frustrating um there's not much bright spots on this topic because we are one and three in the MLF era here in week one um you know I think people really were hoping that when uh you know Aaron Rogers left the team we would see more active players participating in training camp in preseason um and I just don't feel like it I I I feel like the mentality is still well we we know what we got in our guys so we're going to test out everybody else but I think this this coaching staff fundamentally misses the point that players need reps game reps to get into game shape this team looked beyond Rusty you know even the players that did play in in the offseason or preseason you're still talking about players who didn't play with Jordan love except for three snaps maybe you're talking about Zack Tom who missed the first game you're talking about um players that missed most of the training camp in practicing it's just you you allow the team to miss so much that why why would you ever expect everything to just glob together and come together so quickly and I think when Matt leflour blames the coaching staff that that's the blame we you know if the Kansas City Chiefs are okay playing their guys in the preseason I don't know why all 31 other teams don't do it they are the gold standard in football right now you know if they win if they win another Super Bowl they're going to do something that no football team has ever done like Andy Reid is getting is reaching top five head coach of alltime territory if he's not there already you know so um and we don't have to litigate every I just my my my point is it is really frustrating and and how many how many lackluster games are we going to open the season with before they start taking the ramp up period more seriously you know um because Jordan love still got hurt right maybe Jordan love doesn't get hurt if he isn't going all out for the first time I don't want to put that because those are still like fluke you know that's a fluke hit you know it doesn't you could I don't know that if you've played in five games leading up to it you get hit like that your body's still going to do what it did but looking at what what happened in the first quarter just analyzing the first quarter of that game okay you have the defense comes out hot right they you know that that first pick by McKenna oh oh was I horny at that point I was let's go yeah because it wasn't just the fact that you know Xavier mckin our new boy our new shiny toy comes out and gets this interception is that there was pressure on Herz they forced the pass boom it it it was everything came together and then you get the offense out there right away penalty move you back okay okay and and and like dumb mistakes dumb mistakes as well o line missing blocks missing missed communication just really tough stuff everyone at that point was like well it's the field everyone slipping on the field well they figured that out and then we learned that the field the turf was the same turf that's used or comparable in both Lincoln Financial Field and uh uh and Lambo so it's like it's like okay take that argument out yeah and I understand cleat change whatever that doesn't matter but looking at not just that one but then the second one where the Eagles Center fumbles a snap we land on it we had two drives in what starting in I know it was within the Red Zone was it I think it was closer like 10 yeah at the the the mckin interception we got the ball at the um we got at the Philly 19 okay I'm I'm that that's not the interception my apologies that's the uh the field goal yeah the second the second one we started the ball at um I know I know it was within yeah at the 13 yeah right yep yep and so and and you saw when the Eagles had that opportunity right Jordan love throws that interception which was a terrible decision he also did not have a great night but you know they took advantage of it they find a way to get in the end zone that's a scary thing to me seeing the difference between two teams when all I've been hearing is the Packers are a Super Bowl contending team obviously all this changes with Jordan love but I'm saying at this time Jordan Love's still in the game he's healthy and I'm seeing the difference between these two teams when they have opportunities to score this is not when you're the Eagles specifically you cannot walk away with two field goals in that situation and feel good about the fact that you're up 6- zero yeah I mean imagine if they have that cushion imagine if they have if they score there changes the whole outcome of the game the whole way the game is played because you have padding instead of it being a back and forth now Packers are up now the Eagles are up now the Packers are up even when the Eagles score they're still down five it gives an opportunity for the Packers to completely change things and the sloppy play ruined all of it yeah I mean it's going to be it's going to be really hard to win a football game where you don't give up a touchdown until the second quarter um and you're still down by one point you know um right I think in those in those first two drives I mean the first the two big drives I keep referring to are when we got the interception and then the fumble recovery um I think we saw this is my point before you know in that interception you see short passes to the flats um you know Josh Jacobs immediately gets tackled right away after um a jayen Carter unnecessary roughness penalty you know so I mean two at one point two two of the the Eagles had two penalties they were both on jayen Carter for uh unsportsmanlike conduct so take that for what you will but you know um line of scrimmage toss to Luke Musgrave lose a yard incomplete pass to Davian Wicks um pass to the flat uh to Jacobs he gets out to nine yards end up having to kick a field goal you know um after that field goal or the fumble recovery you're talking about the same thing um just much to do about nothing um Jordan love incomplete left to uh Christian Watson uh penalty on Romeo dobs I think that you know that that penalty felt a little ticky tacky you know they there were definitely some ticky tacky yeah they were within the one yard line but guess what at the end of the day Christian Watson you gotta catch that ball and make the refs think twice about it you know do I think the the flag gets run either way but at the end of the day like you know Christian Watson they it's the same thing they they were you could tell they really wanted to get him the ball in those first three or four drives they really wanted to show hey Christian's back hey Josh Jacobs is back and do I think it's like hey we want to show that because there's been all these questions about who these guys are as players probably not I think they you know there's a there's a reason why they want to get Christian Watson the ball you know he is when he's healthy a scary scary um Prospect the issue is that it has not translated on the field and last night was another great example of a guy who still is not making plays I think he was very lazy about going to get some balls I think he uh I think there was some effort stuff that wasn't there I think they're it forces Jordan to really kind of look his way a lot more than you'd like um which is a problem you know he had a couple nice passes late in the game I mean I don't want to completely pile on the guy but I just think like it just seemed very obvious to me that the play calling was um focused and narrowed on getting specific players the balls because they thought they were their Playmakers um and one of those people Josh Jacobs yeah and so let's talk about Josh Jacobs for a second yeah um between him and Aaron Jones I said well I want Aaron Jones I got a lot of Homer takes he gets injured he's injury-prone he's older Josh Jacobs is the guy go with him okay didn't see a lot of Josh Jacobs you know we didn't see him in in Camp um a whole a whole lot comes out didn't look good at all in the beginning lot of again a lot of people bringing it up to you know the turf issues whatever but then you saw Emanuel Wilson he and you know when he's in he's he's having great strides and and you're going okay so what's the difference here obviously they're different types of backs different types of plays I get that but not what I wanted to see out of Josh Jacobs correct I would agree with you 100% um you know in the first half you're talking about a guy who had six rushing attempts for a grand total of four yards um bad not great I you know I'm not gonna tell anyone how to fan I'll tell you that much but me personally was thinking oh man did we really just let Aaron Jones walk I had a lot of I did have a lot well so that but then I also had a lot of thoughts of man is Aaron Jones so talented that he makes our bad offensive line look decent or tolerable the Packers have um but no one was talking about the offensive line being bad that was concern yeah I mean I was talking about it uh you know I think that that I think Aaron Jones was a dynamic enough Runner that he really put a bandaid on a pretty bad um run blocking offense they're not great they really aren't they're an excellent pass blocking offensively um and I think if you hadn't thought about it last night's first half was a great example like these dudes do not move bodies they are not barreling get downfield MERS um I mean just look at the Eagles offensive line oh man you want to talk about guys who who get downfield and get uh but anyways um but yeah not great I'll say that much I did not feel good about the first half of Josh Jacobs I will say the second half um flip me right back around 180 I'm I'm glad we picked him over Aaron Jones he's going to get the uh really well no um I'm being a little hyperbolic I'm being a little hyperbolic I will say this second half 10 attempts for 80 yards and what he did show you was things that you saw in the 2022 season when he won uh the rushing title I think last night Josh Jacobs had two attempts over 10 plus yards rushing I mean he gashed them a few different plays uh um guess how many he had total last year with the Raiders I mean based on the fact you're asking this I'm going to say not many yeah we were talking about nine okay so he already had over 20% of what he already did um so in football one half football I mean really the dude is way bigger like physically he's more imposing I I like his burst um I mean he looks good in the two-minute drill goal line three minutes but I just think if you're if you think if you think you're going to stack him up in the eye formation and give him the ball like he sayquan Barkley then you should have thrown a lot more money at saquon Barkley because he's just not that guy and I think saquan proved last night why when he's healthy there's just there's only one sequan yeah yeah yeah so um let's talk about my new favorite player on the team established Jaden Reed yeah man do I love the feeling of whether it was you know catching punts or catching passes just feeling that confidence that the dude's going to hold on to the ball and he was there he caught the ball and he went there as much as we want to focus on the touchdowns which were great obviously the second time he caught a punt and on these slippery field Turf conditions he still like caught it in kind of like a turning motion and I was like felt this anxiety of oh my God please don't drop it because I felt like that's what I been used to the last couple of years worrying about that from who's in the backfield and it's just like I'm just like I like Reed's hands I just I like that I don't have to worry about that and I love that Jordan love has him he was my bright spot yeah of the of the game yeah I mean he he brought the offense to life I mean you saw a real quick change in how they you know they were trying to drive the ball downfield you could tell they thought that they were going to be able to exploit a a pretty mediocre linebacking core of the Eagles and there are some questions about um you know there are some questions about their secondary um I mean Darius Slay and uh Gardner Johnson they're great players but when you talk about the depth of the wide receivers you're talking about who's going to guard you know Dante tavan Wicks and Jaden Reed and when you talk about our three and four guys and I think they they showed it I mean when they got when they got Jaden Reed matched up against a linebacker I mean it was it was Game Over You know um I mean that first play was an ending around to the right side I mean he took the ball behind the line of scrimmage and and rushed it for you know what was that a 30 I don't something it was over 30 yeah yeah so man what you know enough can't be said about um the drafting of Jaden Reed he is a special special talent he is he is our wide receiver one you know he's a slot guy but in today's in today's offense you know who cares what the ex is it do I mean it's just not important anymore you know there's there's too much emphasis on offense passing is too important you know it got to a point I was even looking at late game you know they're they're optioning um Jaden Reed in the backfield motion just to get eyes on him they were terrified Jaden Reed was going to Spring another one and why would they be yeah Josh Jacobs takes the ball Cuts left um on the left side of line gets I think eight eight yards first down either way I mean that's the kind of stuff Matt lefl does really well and that's stacking players disguising looks you know all of that um but man Jaden Reid is a special special talent and it's a shame that the game is going to get forgotten about because of Jordan Love's injury and all the sloppiness but I mean for a guy who had a really quiet training camp you know in terms of like the the blogosphere the pundit the Beats everyone was saying pretty quiet stuff from Jaden Reed and it's like I'm starting to feel like it it was on purpose I'm starting be good thing Jaden Reed is a Ferrari that you take out on the open road and so you know these preseason games you're not showing much well all the flashy stuff is going to go through Jaden Reed it's pretty obvious you know um yeah and that open stuff up for everybody else too you you know all of a sudden Christian Watson had a little more room to operate when people were scared of what um Jane Reed was gonna do but you know um yeah I just hope that they keep using them in exciting interesting ways you know if Jordan love is hurt getting the ball down is going to be challenging so Jaden Reed's going to have a super um challenging time getting the ball out in space so let's figure out ways to get him closer to the line of scrimmage yep we gotta get gota stay creative I mean really like I I I really did like a lot of those calls you know so and then as we're as we're moving along here let's also talk about the defense lot of lot of hype the defense coming into the season uh obviously first quarter right you know you you see the the interception the fumble recovery you know great turnovers are always good then you look at the final score and you're like okay well they still gave up you know yeah over 30 points thoughts on Packers defense through week one thoughts on Packers defense through week one all right here's my thoughts I think one this is uh the Eagles were a terrible opponent to unveil a brand new Pressman uh cover one um super aggressive defense because if you really look at what their wide receivers do well it's beat man coverage and then go over the top um as much as we don't want to say Joe Barry's name out loud or Mike penon a cover to Shell probably would have made a lot of sense against these guys and I think like I think Joe Halley was very apparent he said we're gonna live and die by our plays um so I'll take it you know it's the it's modern NFL teams are going to put up this many points um the Packers can hang this many on anybody as well you know um I think a few a few large picture things I wish the I wish the interior of the defensive line created more pressure up front you know um in a lot of these like fangio schemes even though technically he's like running it from like the Robert Salah tree of it however you want to fracture off those our our middle linebackers aren't great they're just not especially when Edan Cooper isn't playing Quay Walker is fine Isa McDuffy is passable so you really need to be getting pressure on the quarterback and I just think I think I wish you know I wish Kenny Clark would have had a bigger presence in the game TJ slayen um Carl Brooks all of these guys I just think they need to disrupt Jaylen her's ability to drive the ball down field and they didn't have they didn't have awful games I just I feel like for a while it's been a very just mediocre attempt on the D line it it's not it's not you know threatening pressure it's like there's pressure but it's not man that annoying constantly in your face forcing the quarterback to have to change what they want to do pressure and is that something that can change and become consistent with this dline I don't know I mean I mean you hope so right I I mean ran Gary looked fantastic um you know LVN Preston Smith even JJ andari like they all looked good um but you know I think I think so much of it comes down to what kind of pressure can you get from the interior that was the most exploitable part of the Eagles line and I wish they would have done more that's the other half of this like you just Lo one maybe one of the greatest centers of all time just retired they've got uh a rookie anchoring that a couple fumbles were from sloppy play like how do you just got to find ways to punish that guy more and I just don't know if they did you know it it all comes back to the coaching stuff too yep Joe Barry showed us absolutely nothing he showed zero things in the preseason which is awesome because that means teams can't game plan against it but the other problem is is that you know not Joe Barry my apologies Jeff Halley correct I've been Cur I've been cursing his name for so many years yes uh yeah Jeff Halley didn't show you much um in the off in the pre-season and so we don't know either I think the players so defense is defense always takes time that's the other thing too it's like everybody was saying like don't be surprised don't be surprised I absolutely drank the Kool-Aid I was like these guys are hungry they know what to do had somebody you know holding them back and that's why uh but you know I thought I thought play was pad too I mean Jer Alexander for as great as he is I think that he got burnt he got burnt a couple times um I think Stokes look better than he seems to be returning to form a bit more than I expected which but there was also one one play where Herz just trucked over Stokes yeah I was like come on man I mean that's that's a problem though when you have a quarterback that squats 500 and got Eric you I just like at the end of the day like you know um he's pushing you back four yards I know it's bad it's bad hey hey hey you're you're not gonna you're right um I think that there was a lot of M tackles I think I think that um I think I think it comes back to these dudes do not have this is not their default programming this scheme and I think at times you could see them thinking about where they needed to be rather than just being able to pin their hairs back and their ears back and like attack and um I think you know what's funny is I think in limited play time you see a guy like Edan Cooper and Javon Bullard you know our two rookies fly to the ball like visibly fast on tape you know there was a play where I think sequan rolled out left and I'm telling you it looked like Javon Bullard shot out of a cannon and Clos 20 yards ran right I love when when they do when they show that speed and you just go you go where the hell that guy come from oh it's aw awesome happen enough though yeah same with edrian Cooper I mean there it's it's it's very obvious that he's not playing more because of his injury um and getting up to speed but they got to figure out how to get him up to speed because at this point especially if whatever if we're playing more than two or three games without Jordan love go let edrian Cooper make all the mistakes on the field you know what I mean like if if these games are going to be tough like let's get him ready to go because uh yeah it's it's it's it's going to be interesting it's going to be interesting you know um but I think think by and large if we're talking about the the I think the Packers beat themselves more than the Eagles beat us I think 100% agree with that 100% I mean looking at the numbers of just penalties missed opportunities the those speak for themselves any any of those flip and we're having a different conversation I mean the conversation is still the same about Jordan love and that will be number one I also want to point out here as we wrap up for today that this is not just the Packers podcast right that's what happened last night that's the biggest news that's the biggest sports news in the state of Wisconsin we are going to be covering the Brewers bucks uh you know Badgers whatever it doesn't matter we'll be talking Sports and we'll be saying hey don't tell me how to fan I'm gonna feel the way that I'm gonna feel um but the next time that we talk John it is going to be with us knowing the outcome of Jordan love and that will determine how we feel as fans going forward the rest of the season yep yeah that injury will really determine how much I want to talk about the Milwaukee Brewers postseason push yes yes moving forward how excited I am to get the the Brewers also lost yesterday like when when the two teams are playing that's one of the things that you always well at least the Brewers W today you know you can he couldn't even go that way just not both you know yeah and one pitch too I mean Montas was pitching so well and got rocked up by one pitch you know um oh just frustrating frustrating stuff um but this is this has been fun I'm glad we're doing this um I'm excited for episode two we'll find out how many of these we're going to be able to do uh per week spit some stuff out uh but this has been a lot of fun I appreciate you joining me pal I appreciate you too Josh glad to see you're back at it talking Sports man it's always fun to hear your voice and and hear your measured reasonable takes for sure wow thank you yes I I appreciate the sarcasm in there yeah um no this will be fun and uh if you are watching please like subscribe go through all that cheesiness because we are just getting started we are not done yet [Music]